Fun fact: The novel is full of drug references, and yes, the caterpillar smokes a hookah (and it seems like he put weed in it, judging by his behavior). During the time this was written, the Victorian era, it was quite common to use heroin, cocaine and opium in for example cough medicine, so kids would early on become drug addicts!
Opium especially, since they went out of their way to make opium dens or bars around that time too. People would slum in those buildings for days with no awareness of what time or day it was.
the book may have references to trips but its not an allegory for drug (ab)use or mental illness, its really just a book about the nonsensical fantasy worlds of children! its not supposed to be a metaphor
i love all the weapons mostly equally, but yeah, i really wish she'd utilize the hobby horse more. they're all well suited to do the jobs they're meant to, but the most satisfying gameplay is when you balance out your usage of all of them imo.
Same...when she was like, 'How do I break their guard?" I was wringing my hands going, "The Hobby Horse breaks guards! It literally says so!" The weapons in Alice are actually very well-balanced for each stage.
30:29 all characters are from a poem called "My First Visit to the Red Cliff" ,赤壁赋，written by one of the greatest Chinese poets from the Song dynasty, Su Shi
Also I think you're misremembering something. The guy at the beginning was the same doctor telling Alice to forget. You might need to rewatch that scene, cause he's just telling Alice to slip into wonderland and anytime she brings up anything negative he tells her to let it go and just sink into wonderland. I'll let you draw your own conclusions with that.
When I played this game I was a teenager, but a few things went over my head. Reflecting on it now (and refreshing my memory with this playthrough) I suspect he was sexually abusing her. It's strongly implied he was mentally conditioning (read as: grooming) children for sexual abuse, possibly even pimping out his clients. Very dark themes were handled so carefully in this game.
@@lilscenechick1995 I know this is old but it wasn't just implied it was shown that he was trafficking children. On the other hand Alice was stated to NOT have been abused because she was "too crazy" and "too old" for Bumby.
the fact that this game has been a huge stylistic inspiration for me for upwards of 10 years and now i can watch one of my favorite youtubers play it... ❤️ iconic
@@isaacclarke1489 Those aren't references, they're the actual source material. That's like saying "this game is a reference to Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll!" even though the concept and lore leaves no doubt on what it's based on. There's really no hidden allusion about the Vorpal Blade, for example, since you literally pulled it out of the Jabberwocky's corpse itself.
They left the lamp so that Alice would feel more comfortable. Her mother says in one of the lines that they "will leave the lamp upstairs, but only until Alice turns 12." Or something along those lines.
01:32:59 this is the same dude from the beginning he always says to forget unpleasant memories. I think you're confused because he said something like "remember your wonderland go there" because it's supposed to be happy and he wants to erase bad memories for his therapy. At the beginning just after Alice went out of the office a boy entered and he said "So Charlie, you dad hang himself after killing your mum. Let's forget out those horrible memories shall we?" or something like that. That's how his therapy works apparently.
He wants to erase bad memories because he is grooming children for sexual abuse. This is strongly implied by the children being leered at by those men, and the distressed children Alice sees later on in the game. Also, the "ruin" creatures basically represent lost innocence. Alice lost her innocence when her family died and the adults in her life took advantage of her vulnerable state. I'm not sure if it's meant to imply she was sexually assaulted by her therapist, but he was certainly way too insistent on her forgetting all bad memories. Why would he be grooming her and younger children to forget the horrible experiences forced upon them? Highly suspect. Alice confronts him in the end and I believe she accuses him of brainwashing children to be used and abused for personal gain/gratification. Their close proximity to the brothel (The Mangled Mermaid) supports this theory.
Thats what I think its cool watching Gabs gameplays like, in one moment we're talking about how China introduced its characters to Japan in like 400 a.c and in moments before that, we were talking bout how Alice was using titties to jump across the painting
Pro tip when fighting the Colossal Ruin: If it's trying to grab you, shrink and run away, it will give up chasing after you since it can't grab Alice :D Also hitting it with the canon while shotting the fire will stop it. Loving the series! This is an amazing game despite it's age!
I kinda wish Kotobukiya made figures of Alice with variants depicting her different dresses. Maybe there's a rare one where she's in her Hysteria mode as well. Just thought this game needed more love, you know.
There was a company that did make some Alice Madness Returns figures, but they only made like 4; a Cheshire Cat, (I think) a Card soldier, & 2 Alices (default blue dress & hysteria mode). They only gave Alice 3 of her weapons and they were the same ones for both; pepper grinder, vorpal blade, and hobby horse (the horse is actually fairly dangerous since it's like a solid chunk of hard plastic with it's horn being fairly sharp).
more tips: hitting the drifting ruin with the teapot kills them 1 shot & keeping the umbrella out for the flamethrower-y attack sheilds you. btw, the chinese charcters in the sky are from famous poems. that domain was also made so that the chinese devs and art team can really shine (they had trouble understanding western surrealism)
I can't believe after all this fucking time, I never ONCE thought about using the umbrella to defend myself from the Colossal's flamethrower. Well over a decade and I had to find out via UA-cam comment. I'm now going to throw away my PS3 and live in a bog somewhere. (Seriously, though, thanks for leaving this comment, you've just saved me so many roses.)
I wished you used the Hobby Horse more, it is designed to break enemy defenses after all. also you can manually detonate the rabbit bombs in order to stun the Wasp Samurai rather than trying to charge at them while they are distracted by the bomb...
@@1901KiTTyClaWs While that might be true, I still feel like people put themselves at a disadvantage when they are not utilizing all the tools the game gives them.
Lol she uses the horse more then I did, I pretty much just used the gun and knife. I got through the game perfectly fine, and the second time I played it, it was even more easy to play without the horse because everything was fully updated
Honestly can't explain how much I love Gab in Asian (especially Japanese, ofc) mode! I study Chinese and Korean in Uni and I'm taking a Chinese-Korean-Japanese History class! While Chinese simplified characters, Japan did too, actually! The main difference is that the Simplified Japanese (is it called shinjitai? I honestly don't know a lot about Japanese) have been simplified differently (usually), way less drastically and way less kanji have been simplified, in opposition to Mandarin in China. I explain like shit so I just wanna do a few examples, taking as examples Taiwan, China and Japan as different "styles" for the same character: Taiwan: 氣 China: 气 Japan: 気 Taiwan: 學 China: 学 Japan: 学 Taiwan: 廣 China: 广 Japan: 広 Taiwan: 覺 China: 觉 Japan: 覚 Plus - from what I understood - the characters used in modern Japanese actually mean an older meaning of today's Chinese 漢字. Like《湯》in Japanese means "hot water", usually indicating an onsen (do i remember correctly?), in modern Mandarin it means "soup", but in ancient Mandarin it meant "hot water" too, right? Same thing for stuff like 私, in modern Mandarin means like "self", but it used to mean "I", like in modern Japanese. Am I making any sense? btw even if in my uni they don't accept traditional characters, I still learn them more over the simplified and 我超喜歡台灣！等不及住在那裡ㄛ
The statues are starting off human, and actually a lot of human influences from the mahjong pieces to the artwork to the sculptures. However, as you go up the mountain, the artwork starts adapting a more bug-like influence
37:25 Memories like that kind of imply that the visuals & caricatures of other people in the real world are actually part of Alice's delusions, cause her being more beautiful & pristine than everyone else might be how she sees herself since she may also be physically scarred from the fire.
more history lessons in you're streams, please! I love how you explained certain things and you're experiences abroad, it's so interesting and I'm so envious of all the languages you know! It's so inspiring and fascinating!
The coolest part about the Vale of Doom (area before the "Mysterious East") is, that if you look at the surroundings, you'll see hints that it is actually the Vale of Tears (starting area) with pieces of Hatter's Domain floating around in the sky and scattered across the environment - This is Alice's "Happy Place", destroyed and corrupted by the Ruin.
hey gab! hobby horse is basically your heavy attack + i recommend investing your teeth into it more bc while you don't really use it now it becomes so much more useful and kind of a lifesaver pretty soon, since the enemies kinda jump in difficulty the further you get in the game
I'm glad she picked up on the fact that the doctor is saying to forget and how good it is. However, I think she got it wrong when she said that "the other guy says to remember." I think the guy she is referring to is the doctor as well and she is referencing the therapy session. That session was all about forgetting but it was focusing on remembering memories that are crucial and productive while forgetting memories that hold Alice back i.e the house burning. If you think about it, all characters who collect memories for what Alice to forget certain aspects of her life.
I suspect those "Chinese characters" are from the well known classical literature regarding the warring states (三國演義), probably the most famous Chinese literature after Confucius & The Art of War. The devs should have had the text scrolling upwards with the natural reading direction of vertical text, it's impossible to read & appreciate when the next characters disappear with downward scrolling!!
Totally random but thanks for the random history lesson at around 1:23:00 and for talking about other languages because I’ve been trying to find out more about other languages and which ones I wanna learn, so this was an interesting point!
The hobby horse is one of the strongest weapons so it can break most enemy’s defenses! I used it a lot what I played it! It was my favorite weapon tbh!
29:59 That comment is actually VERY correct. Most of those water pipe references back then were referring to smoking opium. It was fairly common. Cocaine, Opium, and other drugs considered harsh these day were readily available and used very commonly. Amnesia Rebirth where she uses Laudanum is an example. It’s an opium derivatives pretty sure.
Language History Lessons with Gab! I actually really enjoyed learning the history of Chinese/ Japanese language in this episode and the added comments from viewers of the stream was really awesome too! Thanks as always for creating awesome content, Gab!
2:17 The blades are facing the wrong way. When the katna and or wakazashi are faced blades to the right and the handles to the left it signifies that they are not prepared For attack because traditional japanese swordsman, or most of the japanese population rather were forced to be right handed, even if they were left handed. If the blades face left and the handles to the right, it makes it easier for someone to grab the sword and use it. I may have gotten some of that wrong. I just know that the swords are facing the wrong way. It's been a while since I brushed up on my Japanese sword etiquette.
I thought the omega symbol stood for chaos. One of the keys on the keychain has the sign for the planet Pluto which also stands for chaos. I think this is a requiring theme because her mind is in shambles.
American McGee is just fantastic when coming to these games. As someone who loves Victorian Era/ 1800s history and these games.. Its amazing to see how hes been accurate. Not only that, but how his foreshadowing is ...👌👌👌
0:45 ---> The video is off to a great start... 30:15 - 30:20 ---> I like the style of the Japanese dress/costume/outfit the best... 1:20:16 1:41:27 - 1:41:30
Cantonese does use the traditional writing style (at least for my parents part) and it is usually spoken in the southern part of China and Hong Kong :) I love that you're playing this! I have been meaning to finish the game!
The Oriental Grove is by far my favorite section of the game. It's so dark but tranquil at the same time. And beautiful. (I was mesmerized by the lady statues as well, lol). The whole game is marvelous, I love it to pieces.
So cool to learn, that many people still know and love this game. I thought this game is almost forgotten. :) In my opinion, it was criminally underrated by critics when it came out. All I saw were reviews in the 70s range.
55:15 Gab taking in the scenery enjoyin life Game: Instant death ON Gab: “Tf you did not” Game: “Absolutely” *adds spikes and pillars* Gab: *finishes side scroller mission with one more go*
During the 1800s, many Europeans were fascinated by stories merchants told about China and Japan and the goods that were brought in from China and Japan through the silk road. They called China and Japan "exotic".
Omg I am loving you for playing this! Here's a tip for the HUGE tar boi: you can easily shield yourself with the umbrella when he goes into flame thrower mode. Also, shrinking is another good hack to avoid getting gobbled up. You might not see this, but thought I'd put it out there anyway :) Also using the rabbit timer on wasps or any group of enemies is a great way to distract them and use the tea pot canon on them.
this game + gab playing it is an early xmas gift 😭❤️ ps. and im glad this game is getting the attention it deserves, this is an opportunity for another alice game!
The amount of gaslighting the people around alice do. The lawyer, the therapist and the pharmasist/nurse, all disregarding her and sating that they are the only reason she's alive. Her nanny is the only one that treats her like a human being.
I'm SO glad Gab picked this game up- I've never gotten to play it myself but it's a favorite of mine to watch. The story and the art style are just so unique and satisfying to watch people play (and to hopefully play myself in the future!) Keep being your awesome self Gab and I hope this game sticks with you like it has with so many of us!
jack: Thank you for the pancake!~ Gab: Thank you for the roses!~ jack: Look at those reflections! Gab: That's so cool; that's so awesome! Yup, definitely influence each other.
It's opium that Alice is smoking, the Caterpillar is a hardcore opium addict in the books and movies. It takes something stronger than tobacco or weed for Alice's intensity of hallucinations.
@@Winterfang ik the prelude to chapter 4 was always so cool I love the way it's laid out cuz it gives you a hit of who you're going to meet next I love it!
As I’m sure some have seen from one of the recent recorded live streams by American McGee, he explains some really cool concepts that his team put together to pay respect to this chapter. The paper ants that are murdered and strung up/nailed to walls are a small nod to the massacres in China brought on by the Japanese. That’s why the land the ants are a part of is traditionally Chinese, while the samurai wasps are Japanese and are opposers to Alice as well. After loving the game since it’s release and hearing that for the first time a couple weeks ago, it blew my mind. It additionally reassured me that the creators really wanted their team’s creativity and culture to shine and not just butcher it for aesthetic. If I got any facts wrong please feel free to correct me. ☺️
I wish Tim Burton's version of Alice was more like this, cause this is much more his style, but of course since Disney got to it, an Alice in Wonderland movie needs to be more "kid friendly." >.> Even though the story is not kid friendly at all. But that's why we have vija games.
You really shouldn't be using your pepper grinder for everything. It's not nearly as strong as your other weapons, and should only be used for those times when ranged attacks are absolutely necessary.
As rude as this may sound, I do like enemies that completely negate all the other tactics you used before. It really forces the player to try out new tactics to defeat the new enemy instead of just sticking to the pepper grinder like any other boring enemy encounter.
The next chapters are going to be fire I can tell! I am very happy you like the game because well it’s one of my favorite game ever and there are only few youtubers who finished it. Not like pewdiepie, such a shame because the end is really amazing.
1:28:48 For example in English, Data. Data is, officially, a plural, yet unofficially, data is either singular or plural. The singular version is "datum," which, with that word, and it being pronounced the way it's spelled, I'm not surprised that people use "data" for singular and plural usage of the word.
I want to say Radcliffe is the attorney in charge of the Liddel estate when it burned down. Maybe not attorney, maybe a lawyer? When Alice first approached him and rang his door, I thought she was back at the mental ward but he said that she abandoned it at the ward and his statement makes it seem like he was focused on the house itself and not the family. The way he described it made it seem like he is a detective but I do not think that is it.
His memory symbols something long and thin. I know there is a needle, a mirror, glasses, a house, his memory, and a perfume bottle. The needle is for the doctor, the house is for her family, the perfume bottle is for the body lady who is blackmailing her, the glasses is for her therapist, and the mirror is for Alice's aunt. I think Radcliffe's memory item is suppose to be a pen.
Hmm, never noticed it before now...but I think the smaller projectiles which the Insidious Ruin hurls at you are actually the pepper corns from you...he blocks them and sends them back. I've almost always been using the Teapot Cannon against those buggers =P
Seeing your first video made me want to get this game for myself 🥰 it’s fun to play through the game myself a bit and then seeing how you do it definitely helping with my perspective and problem solving 🖤 I hope you’re having a wonderful day ✨🥰
1:24:55 Malaysia ppl here also can speak Cantonese and Hokkien and there is other languages we also can speak but not all malaysian can understand all languages even myself can't keep up on it 😂
I've always loved snow in games, especially when it's realistic sounding when the character walks on it. I live in Rhode Island so I'm no stranger to snow. Sometimes it's nice, but when it melts and keeps coming back it feels like Spring will never be here and it makes me sad.
![Queensland - Alice: Madness Returns [Chapter 4]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/a6EQEAshvCM/mqdefault.jpg)
![Queensland - Alice: Madness Returns [Chapter 4]](/img/tr.png)
Fun fact: The novel is full of drug references, and yes, the caterpillar smokes a hookah (and it seems like he put weed in it, judging by his behavior). During the time this was written, the Victorian era, it was quite common to use heroin, cocaine and opium in for example cough medicine, so kids would early on become drug addicts!
It was also written by a mathematician
Opium especially, since they went out of their way to make opium dens or bars around that time too. People would slum in those buildings for days with no awareness of what time or day it was.
It's about drugs but also mental problems
@@Alvi-lp1gk It was actually written as a mathematical satire written by a mathematician
the book may have references to trips but its not an allegory for drug (ab)use or mental illness, its really just a book about the nonsensical fantasy worlds of children! its not supposed to be a metaphor
You have the plot wrong. The “guy at the beginning”, her therapist, wants her to forget too. This is important.
I was never able to understand the plot 100%, the story is not the easiest to follow.
@@fabiodewitt9140 it is actually, I’m not sure how you can’t follow it. But I don’t give any spoilers
@@Jackieb741 I have finished the game twice, and i loved every second of it, it's a shame that i couldn't follow the story though.
@@fabiodewitt9140 well I don’t want to give spoilers but if you’re still confused after she’s done her playthrough lmk and I’ll explain
@@Jackieb741 Thanks Jackie, i appreciate that.
I love how the dresses change with each level.
Me too! And they all looked so good! Like I want every dress!
@@SassyAsi The japanese dress it's probably my favorite.
Same. All of them have been really cute so far. Good cosplay ideas as well
@@Magicalwolfgamer This game is a wonderland for cosplayers.
The Japanese and doll once are amazing, even tho I HATE dolls
Me, whose favourite weapon is the Hobby Horse, watching it never get upgraded: *unending screaming*
The Hobby Horse was my favorite too!
i love all the weapons mostly equally, but yeah, i really wish she'd utilize the hobby horse more. they're all well suited to do the jobs they're meant to, but the most satisfying gameplay is when you balance out your usage of all of them imo.
Saaame
Same, also the teapot, I love the teapot
Same...when she was like, 'How do I break their guard?" I was wringing my hands going, "The Hobby Horse breaks guards! It literally says so!"
The weapons in Alice are actually very well-balanced for each stage.
"He does a lot of damage!"
You know what else does a lot of damage? YOUR HOBBY HORSE!
It breaks their defense!
Hobby Horse it’s in the name. Lov it. It is both. A statement and plugging.
Yeah, I kept yelling at my phone “USE THE DAMN HORSE.”
@@andysmith5806 Maybe you should shout harder next time
Fun fact: the guy who did the voice for the Cheshire cat in this game also voiced Mojo Jojo in the Powerpuff Girls 💖💙💚
Really? That’s so cool! He has a good villain/creepy voice
Amazing factoid! Thanks for pointing out 😁
And he’s ghostface in scream
And many voices in the Sam and Max series video games
WHAT
Fun fact: the original pc game came with your therapist's logbook of your sessions with him that match your wonderland experiences
Just for future reference, the horse is very effective against samurai wasps
Exactlyy, I'm itching for her to use the horse to break defenses
Yeah, even though this was a recorded stream I kept wanting to shout "The hammer! The hammer!" haha
Right Period thank you.
30:29 all characters are from a poem called "My First Visit to the Red Cliff" ,赤壁赋，written by one of the greatest Chinese poets from the Song dynasty, Su Shi
and the "oil" is actually wine, ancient Chinese people use those pots to store wine.
I've been a fan of this game for nearly 6 years and I never knew that ! Thanks so much for sharing :D
Also I think you're misremembering something. The guy at the beginning was the same doctor telling Alice to forget. You might need to rewatch that scene, cause he's just telling Alice to slip into wonderland and anytime she brings up anything negative he tells her to let it go and just sink into wonderland. I'll let you draw your own conclusions with that.
When I played this game I was a teenager, but a few things went over my head. Reflecting on it now (and refreshing my memory with this playthrough) I suspect he was sexually abusing her. It's strongly implied he was mentally conditioning (read as: grooming) children for sexual abuse, possibly even pimping out his clients. Very dark themes were handled so carefully in this game.
Yeah that’s very important to the plot, I hope she’s reading these comments
@@lilscenechick1995 I know this is old but it wasn't just implied it was shown that he was trafficking children. On the other hand Alice was stated to NOT have been abused because she was "too crazy" and "too old" for Bumby.
The hobby horse watching gab struggling to fight the wasp 👁👄👁
the fact that this game has been a huge stylistic inspiration for me for upwards of 10 years and now i can watch one of my favorite youtubers play it... ❤️ iconic
Alice's weapons are actually a reference to the 4 Tarot suits/Playing cards:
Vorpal Blade = Sword/Spade ♠
Pepper Grinder = Pentacle/Diamond ♦
Hobby Horse = Wand/Club ♣
Tea Pot Cannon = Cup/Heart ♥
whoa, so cool! I never knew that. Thanks!
Awesome! The more you know :) there's so much detail to this game>love it
The Vorpal blade is also based on one of the other poems written by Lewis Carroll
Vorpal blade= Jabberwocky
poem
Pepper grinder= Duchess encounter
Hobby horse= Rocking Horsefly
Teapot cannon= Mad hatter’s tea party
Lewis Carroll references
@@isaacclarke1489 Those aren't references, they're the actual source material. That's like saying "this game is a reference to Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll!" even though the concept and lore leaves no doubt on what it's based on.
There's really no hidden allusion about the Vorpal Blade, for example, since you literally pulled it out of the Jabberwocky's corpse itself.
They left the lamp so that Alice would feel more comfortable. Her mother says in one of the lines that they "will leave the lamp upstairs, but only until Alice turns 12." Or something along those lines.
01:32:59 this is the same dude from the beginning he always says to forget unpleasant memories. I think you're confused because he said something like "remember your wonderland go there" because it's supposed to be happy and he wants to erase bad memories for his therapy. At the beginning just after Alice went out of the office a boy entered and he said "So Charlie, you dad hang himself after killing your mum. Let's forget out those horrible memories shall we?" or something like that. That's how his therapy works apparently.
He wants to erase bad memories because he is grooming children for sexual abuse. This is strongly implied by the children being leered at by those men, and the distressed children Alice sees later on in the game. Also, the "ruin" creatures basically represent lost innocence. Alice lost her innocence when her family died and the adults in her life took advantage of her vulnerable state. I'm not sure if it's meant to imply she was sexually assaulted by her therapist, but he was certainly way too insistent on her forgetting all bad memories. Why would he be grooming her and younger children to forget the horrible experiences forced upon them? Highly suspect. Alice confronts him in the end and I believe she accuses him of brainwashing children to be used and abused for personal gain/gratification. Their close proximity to the brothel (The Mangled Mermaid) supports this theory.
Thats what I think its cool watching Gabs gameplays like, in one moment we're talking about how China introduced its characters to Japan in like 400 a.c and in moments before that, we were talking bout how Alice was using titties to jump across the painting
Best way to traverse works of art.
Pro tip when fighting the Colossal Ruin: If it's trying to grab you, shrink and run away, it will give up chasing after you since it can't grab Alice :D
Also hitting it with the canon while shotting the fire will stop it.
Loving the series! This is an amazing game despite it's age!
I shrank whenever I fought it too! Lol I felt so smart. That's what you call a pro-gamer move ;)
@@lilscenechick1995 So simple, yet, so effective! :D
Yup yup! Best trick ever
I kinda wish Kotobukiya made figures of Alice with variants depicting her different dresses. Maybe there's a rare one where she's in her Hysteria mode as well. Just thought this game needed more love, you know.
There was a company that did make some Alice Madness Returns figures, but they only made like 4; a Cheshire Cat, (I think) a Card soldier, & 2 Alices (default blue dress & hysteria mode).
They only gave Alice 3 of her weapons and they were the same ones for both; pepper grinder, vorpal blade, and hobby horse (the horse is actually fairly dangerous since it's like a solid chunk of hard plastic with it's horn being fairly sharp).
more tips: hitting the drifting ruin with the teapot kills them 1 shot & keeping the umbrella out for the flamethrower-y attack sheilds you.
btw, the chinese charcters in the sky are from famous poems. that domain was also made so that the chinese devs and art team can really shine (they had trouble understanding western surrealism)
Thanks for the tip on the flamethrower attack cos that thing was the cause of most of my deaths. It was just really hard to avoid
I can't believe after all this fucking time, I never ONCE thought about using the umbrella to defend myself from the Colossal's flamethrower. Well over a decade and I had to find out via UA-cam comment. I'm now going to throw away my PS3 and live in a bog somewhere. (Seriously, though, thanks for leaving this comment, you've just saved me so many roses.)
Welcome to Gab Smolders' channel, where you not only get to see the most awesome gems of games, but also get history and language lessons as well!
it's really amazing how well this game has held up visually. still looks absolutely beautiful!
Makes me want to dust off my pc version and go through the stress of trying to make an old game work on a new pc
The benefits of great art direction
I hope anyone who reads this is having a good day/evening- stay safe out there!
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Thank you for this comment. I'm down today and all it takes is a random act of kindness. I hope you have an amazing rest of 2020!
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I wished you used the Hobby Horse more, it is designed to break enemy defenses after all. also you can manually detonate the rabbit bombs in order to stun the Wasp Samurai rather than trying to charge at them while they are distracted by the bomb...
for sure the hobby horse is my favorite weapon in this game
agreed! but I attribute that into everyone has their own fighting style
@@1901KiTTyClaWs it’s true 😊
@@1901KiTTyClaWs While that might be true, I still feel like people put themselves at a disadvantage when they are not utilizing all the tools the game gives them.
Lol she uses the horse more then I did, I pretty much just used the gun and knife. I got through the game perfectly fine, and the second time I played it, it was even more easy to play without the horse because everything was fully updated
Honestly can't explain how much I love Gab in Asian (especially Japanese, ofc) mode! I study Chinese and Korean in Uni and I'm taking a Chinese-Korean-Japanese History class! While Chinese simplified characters, Japan did too, actually! The main difference is that the Simplified Japanese (is it called shinjitai? I honestly don't know a lot about Japanese) have been simplified differently (usually), way less drastically and way less kanji have been simplified, in opposition to Mandarin in China. I explain like shit so I just wanna do a few examples, taking as examples Taiwan, China and Japan as different "styles" for the same character:
Taiwan: 氣 China: 气 Japan: 気
Taiwan: 學 China: 学 Japan: 学
Taiwan: 廣 China: 广 Japan: 広
Taiwan: 覺 China: 觉 Japan: 覚
Plus - from what I understood - the characters used in modern Japanese actually mean an older meaning of today's Chinese 漢字. Like《湯》in Japanese means "hot water", usually indicating an onsen (do i remember correctly?), in modern Mandarin it means "soup", but in ancient Mandarin it meant "hot water" too, right? Same thing for stuff like 私, in modern Mandarin means like "self", but it used to mean "I", like in modern Japanese. Am I making any sense?
btw even if in my uni they don't accept traditional characters, I still learn them more over the simplified and 我超喜歡台灣！等不及住在那裡ㄛ
The statues are starting off human, and actually a lot of human influences from the mahjong pieces to the artwork to the sculptures. However, as you go up the mountain, the artwork starts adapting a more bug-like influence
37:25
Memories like that kind of imply that the visuals & caricatures of other people in the real world are actually part of Alice's delusions, cause her being more beautiful & pristine than everyone else might be how she sees herself since she may also be physically scarred from the fire.
more history lessons in you're streams, please! I love how you explained certain things and you're experiences abroad, it's so interesting and I'm so envious of all the languages you know! It's so inspiring and fascinating!
The coolest part about the Vale of Doom (area before the "Mysterious East") is, that if you look at the surroundings, you'll see hints that it is actually the Vale of Tears (starting area) with pieces of Hatter's Domain floating around in the sky and scattered across the environment - This is Alice's "Happy Place", destroyed and corrupted by the Ruin.
hey gab! hobby horse is basically your heavy attack + i recommend investing your teeth into it more bc while you don't really use it now it becomes so much more useful and kind of a lifesaver pretty soon, since the enemies kinda jump in difficulty the further you get in the game
The Cheshire Cats voice really gives me Christopher Lee vibes
I'm glad she picked up on the fact that the doctor is saying to forget and how good it is. However, I think she got it wrong when she said that "the other guy says to remember." I think the guy she is referring to is the doctor as well and she is referencing the therapy session. That session was all about forgetting but it was focusing on remembering memories that are crucial and productive while forgetting memories that hold Alice back i.e the house burning.
If you think about it, all characters who collect memories for what Alice to forget certain aspects of her life.
I suspect those "Chinese characters" are from the well known classical literature regarding the warring states (三國演義), probably the most famous Chinese literature after Confucius & The Art of War. The devs should have had the text scrolling upwards with the natural reading direction of vertical text, it's impossible to read & appreciate when the next characters disappear with downward scrolling!!
Totally random but thanks for the random history lesson at around 1:23:00 and for talking about other languages because I’ve been trying to find out more about other languages and which ones I wanna learn, so this was an interesting point!
Spicy Horse studio is actually based in China I believe and American McGee's wife is Chinese(their son "Lucky" is the cutest little boy ever 🤣)
The hobby horse is one of the strongest weapons so it can break most enemy’s defenses! I used it a lot what I played it! It was my favorite weapon tbh!
"Tiddies, my reward!" that had me cackling
29:59 That comment is actually VERY correct. Most of those water pipe references back then were referring to smoking opium. It was fairly common. Cocaine, Opium, and other drugs considered harsh these day were readily available and used very commonly. Amnesia Rebirth where she uses Laudanum is an example. It’s an opium derivatives pretty sure.
5:18 One of my fave moments of the game!
14:02 LMFAO
30:21 One of my fave dresses
"Sir, these buns weren't made for toasting!" I almost spit out my coffee.
I love the bit with the paper ants and samurai wasps!. - The Caterpillar smokes a Hookah as was popular in those days.
Language History Lessons with Gab! I actually really enjoyed learning the history of Chinese/ Japanese language in this episode and the added comments from viewers of the stream was really awesome too! Thanks as always for creating awesome content, Gab!
2:17 The blades are facing the wrong way.
When the katna and or wakazashi are faced blades to the right and the handles to the left it signifies that they are not prepared For attack because traditional japanese swordsman, or most of the japanese population rather were forced to be right handed, even if they were left handed.
If the blades face left and the handles to the right, it makes it easier for someone to grab the sword and use it.
I may have gotten some of that wrong. I just know that the swords are facing the wrong way. It's been a while since I brushed up on my Japanese sword etiquette.
I thought the omega symbol stood for chaos. One of the keys on the keychain has the sign for the planet Pluto which also stands for chaos. I think this is a requiring theme because her mind is in shambles.
1:29:00 I think their heads are like that because they're lotus roots.
Chat: “She’s smoking opium.”
Gab: “It’s probably just tobacco.”
Me: “No, it’s opium.”
American McGee is just fantastic when coming to these games. As someone who loves Victorian Era/ 1800s history and these games.. Its amazing to see how hes been accurate. Not only that, but how his foreshadowing is ...👌👌👌
I absolutely love this series, I never got to play the game myself, but I love the game so much already.❤️
Gab: Sees hidden path to extra stuff.
Me: Waits for Gab to go to the hidden place.
Gab: Moves on.
:D
0:45 ---> The video is off to a great start...
30:15 - 30:20 ---> I like the style of the Japanese dress/costume/outfit the best...
1:20:16
1:41:27 - 1:41:30
“That would be perfectly splendid” lol
That little girl was so creepy 😂
Cantonese does use the traditional writing style (at least for my parents part) and it is usually spoken in the southern part of China and Hong Kong :) I love that you're playing this! I have been meaning to finish the game!
The Oriental Grove is by far my favorite section of the game. It's so dark but tranquil at the same time. And beautiful. (I was mesmerized by the lady statues as well, lol). The whole game is marvelous, I love it to pieces.
So cool to learn, that many people still know and love this game. I thought this game is almost forgotten. :) In my opinion, it was criminally underrated by critics when it came out. All I saw were reviews in the 70s range.
55:15
Gab taking in the scenery enjoyin life
Game: Instant death ON
Gab: “Tf you did not”
Game: “Absolutely” *adds spikes and pillars*
Gab: *finishes side scroller mission with one more go*
During the 1800s, many Europeans were fascinated by stories merchants told about China and Japan and the goods that were brought in from China and Japan through the silk road. They called China and Japan "exotic".
This is the perfect break in between my college classes today. Thank you for your hard work, and I hope that you and Sean are feeling well!!
There are more upgrades for your weapons if you purchase the dlc. As well as amazing new outfits!! Vote this up so Gab sees this! 🥰🖤
Oh my god, imagine her reaction to the “Flesh Maiden”!
Omg I am loving you for playing this! Here's a tip for the HUGE tar boi: you can easily shield yourself with the umbrella when he goes into flame thrower mode. Also, shrinking is another good hack to avoid getting gobbled up. You might not see this, but thought I'd put it out there anyway :) Also using the rabbit timer on wasps or any group of enemies is a great way to distract them and use the tea pot canon on them.
this game + gab playing it is an early xmas gift 😭❤️ ps. and im glad this game is getting the attention it deserves, this is an opportunity for another alice game!
I remember playing this game when it first came out and watching gab play it now gives me all sorts of nostalgia!
I just finished the last episode, lucky me! l´m enjoying this series so much
The amount of gaslighting the people around alice do. The lawyer, the therapist and the pharmasist/nurse, all disregarding her and sating that they are the only reason she's alive. Her nanny is the only one that treats her like a human being.
"these buns weren't made for toasting" the way i'm screaming
24:12 So I see that she has watched Bly Manor.
Phenomenal show but that phrase is ruined on me haha
I'm SO glad Gab picked this game up- I've never gotten to play it myself but it's a favorite of mine to watch. The story and the art style are just so unique and satisfying to watch people play (and to hopefully play myself in the future!) Keep being your awesome self Gab and I hope this game sticks with you like it has with so many of us!
My hobby-horse-loving heart hurt so bad during this whole episode 🥲🥲🤣🤣
Ain't that the truth! I love the hobby horse in this game. It kills me how hard of a time she's having because of not using it.
I'm so happy that you're loving this game. I hope you can play Bayonetta one day too... Such a funny game tho
jack: Thank you for the pancake!~
Gab: Thank you for the roses!~
jack: Look at those reflections!
Gab: That's so cool; that's so awesome!
Yup, definitely influence each other.
29:31 In the book he was smoking fancy bottle of opium if not mistaken...
It's opium that Alice is smoking, the Caterpillar is a hardcore opium addict in the books and movies. It takes something stronger than tobacco or weed for Alice's intensity of hallucinations.
The Oriental Grove is my second favorite area visual wise. My first is one of the last ones of the game
@@Winterfang ik the prelude to chapter 4 was always so cool I love the way it's laid out cuz it gives you a hit of who you're going to meet next I love it!
As I’m sure some have seen from one of the recent recorded live streams by American McGee, he explains some really cool concepts that his team put together to pay respect to this chapter. The paper ants that are murdered and strung up/nailed to walls are a small nod to the massacres in China brought on by the Japanese. That’s why the land the ants are a part of is traditionally Chinese, while the samurai wasps are Japanese and are opposers to Alice as well. After loving the game since it’s release and hearing that for the first time a couple weeks ago, it blew my mind. It additionally reassured me that the creators really wanted their team’s creativity and culture to shine and not just butcher it for aesthetic. If I got any facts wrong please feel free to correct me. ☺️
You can actually do some combos in this game!! Use the vorpal blade and in the end of the combo use the horse!! It helps a lot
I wish Tim Burton's version of Alice was more like this, cause this is much more his style, but of course since Disney got to it, an Alice in Wonderland movie needs to be more "kid friendly." >.> Even though the story is not kid friendly at all. But that's why we have vija games.
Her voice is so soothing
"Everything is... perfectly splendid." Was that a reference to The Haunting of Bly Manor by chance?
31:37 it's not oil, it's alcohol.
Don't know how far in advance these are recorded but the horse can break an enemy block also this is probably my favourite series rn
Yeah, "Twinkle twinkle little bat / how I wonder where you're at / like a tea tray in the sky..." I forget the rest
Love this series
You really shouldn't be using your pepper grinder for everything. It's not nearly as strong as your other weapons, and should only be used for those times when ranged attacks are absolutely necessary.
Me only using the teapot: Correct.
As rude as this may sound, I do like enemies that completely negate all the other tactics you used before. It really forces the player to try out new tactics to defeat the new enemy instead of just sticking to the pepper grinder like any other boring enemy encounter.
2:03:09
me when convincing my teacher that i can do the homework
even though i don't know what the heck we were doing on 5.3 be like:
The next chapters are going to be fire I can tell! I am very happy you like the game because well it’s one of my favorite game ever and there are only few youtubers who finished it. Not like pewdiepie, such a shame because the end is really amazing.
I know, there’s so many playthroughs of this game but it’s so hard to find ones that are actually complete
The dude at the beginning of the game is the forgetting dude, as in, he specializes in helping kids forget traumatic events.
1:28:48 For example in English, Data. Data is, officially, a plural, yet unofficially, data is either singular or plural. The singular version is "datum," which, with that word, and it being pronounced the way it's spelled, I'm not surprised that people use "data" for singular and plural usage of the word.
I really like your "Haii-Ya!" while smashing things :) Such a cute tough sound delivered by a beautiful voice
I love how I come to watch a video game and get a really interesting history lesson
2:03:40 & 2:03:47 sounds like the giant snake from God Of War
Gab: -Is talking about linguistics while I'm studying linguistics
Me: Oh yeah, it's all coming together
I want to say Radcliffe is the attorney in charge of the Liddel estate when it burned down. Maybe not attorney, maybe a lawyer? When Alice first approached him and rang his door, I thought she was back at the mental ward but he said that she abandoned it at the ward and his statement makes it seem like he was focused on the house itself and not the family. The way he described it made it seem like he is a detective but I do not think that is it.
His memory symbols something long and thin. I know there is a needle, a mirror, glasses, a house, his memory, and a perfume bottle. The needle is for the doctor, the house is for her family, the perfume bottle is for the body lady who is blackmailing her, the glasses is for her therapist, and the mirror is for Alice's aunt. I think Radcliffe's memory item is suppose to be a pen.
Hmm, never noticed it before now...but I think the smaller projectiles which the Insidious Ruin hurls at you are actually the pepper corns from you...he blocks them and sends them back.
I've almost always been using the Teapot Cannon against those buggers =P
Did you we the name of the achievement when you got the teapot? "Death by Darjeeling"... 😂
Seeing your first video made me want to get this game for myself 🥰 it’s fun to play through the game myself a bit and then seeing how you do it definitely helping with my perspective and problem solving 🖤 I hope you’re having a wonderful day ✨🥰
Seriously, the sounds in this game are so satisfying!
6:57 this big bois always remind of how Mr. X and Nemesis charge at you
alice rips that bong like a CHAMP BRO!!!!
It’s a hookah lol
Art style of this game reminds me of a blend of Tim Burton and Johnny the Homicidal Maniac.
2 superior artists :)
@@tarantulapak8588 Facts
1:24:55 Malaysia ppl here also can speak Cantonese and Hokkien and there is other languages we also can speak but not all malaysian can understand all languages even myself can't keep up on it 😂
I've always loved snow in games, especially when it's realistic sounding when the character walks on it. I live in Rhode Island so I'm no stranger to snow. Sometimes it's nice, but when it melts and keeps coming back it feels like Spring will never be here and it makes me sad.