Peter, I have been watching your channel pretty much from the beginning. I never cease to be amazed at what a consummate craftsman you are. It doesn't matter what area of construction you are undertaking, it is always done in an elegant way.
Another task complete, and now you have a cooker! I am in awe that not only did you perform the contortions of a semi-seasoned swami, but you successfully talked while treading water without succumbing to hypothermia.
Thanks Peter. Another enjoyable episode. I watch on an iPad and there is nothing in the upper right to select for the beer of the week. I have looked everywhere I could to find it on your UA-cam site but am unsuccessful. Can you pls help as it’s important for my sense of episode completion. You’ve introduced me and my wife to the joys of a hazy ipa so we feel warmly about the episodes. Thanks.
Perfect solution my friend nice and tighty i heard that a new transom door was in the works hope to see your success on that matter my friend ohh bye the way Cheers and summer salutations
Hi Peter, If you are at all worried about the side exit of your locker and the amount of gas that could accumulate, it looks to me from the video like you have enough head room in the locker to whack in something (wood, HDPE,Metal) to take up most of the dead air space. That way you have a "raised floor" to keep the cylinder bases dry and you'd still be able to periodically mop up any condensation if needed. LPG (butane/Propane) has an LEL and UEL of around 2 to 10% so if you can reduce that dead air space easily then at least if you do get a little "boom"(it's a firey word) it won't be enough to compromise your cylinders (Gas comes in cylinders, beer comes in bottles and the army comes in tanks- unless of course it's a production facility then it's a gas "tank"farm) enough to cause a BLEVE (That actually is a Firey word- Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapour Explosion) Just a thought, thanks for sharing your videos and I'm still loving the shirt. regards, Dave
Great video. Love the opening in the water. Jealous. Very happy you are cruising this summer aboard MV Geordi. And having a working kitchen is a huge upgrade. Thanks for sharing the build with all of us. Enjoy the sun and please take care of your back.
Peter, I hear ya on the messed up back, I completely threw mine out picking up a damn chop saw the wrong way a week ago. BTW, I'm sorry it took so long, but I got some beer ready to ship finally, hopefully it's not bad.
We know you are are a self-professed city guy, but just wondering if you were going to stick your bow north of Dent and Yaculta Rapids this summer? Amazing cruising there. Safe travels.
Hi Peter, I love your work as always. I'm just wondering with the thru hull being on the side of the propane locker and you mentioning that it is an acceptable risk that you could have up to 3/4 inch of space at the bottom of the locker where propane is able to collect, is it possible to fill that bottom portion with a seasafe/non rust inducing liquid. E.g. a gel or something? It would prevent propane gasses from accumulating there. It might be a silly idea though.
Great job (as always) Peter. I have to ask the obvious (and hopefully not too stupid) question. Why didn’t you use the old (cockpit scupper?) through hole instead of drilling a new one?
Always amazing to watch your work in progress. I’m no electrician but is placing the solenoid inside the propane locker the safest option? If the tanks do leak inside the locker, granted the tank leak would probably have to be excessive, is the solenoid intrinsically safe? One spark and boom! Get you a beer of the week if you get up to Cape Breton. Happy cruising!
@@TravelsWithGeordie solenoid does look well sealed and does make sense to be pre regulator. Thanks because I’m planning on putting a locker in my schooner. Your skills amaze!
So Peter, how did you manage the gasketed gas tight seal on the propane locker lid? That little issue is why I broke down and bought a Trident propane locker when I did my install.
Had the same thought. I was thinking a three quarter inch layer of closed cell foam on the bottom with reliefs cut for the tank bases and a depth appropriate layer on the top to seal and hold the tops. Some cam lock latches to finish the set up. I like the side mount thru hull. Air rushing pass would create a vortex vacuum inside the locker with the lid sealed.🙃
Hi Todd. With UK regulations it would fail 💥 all of it 🤬 In brief... Everything must be metal.. steel, brass, copper as per regulations.. including the pipe to the cooker and drain. Pipe from cylinder to locker fitting has a particular number on it with a date.
@@mySeaPrince_ Things are definitely different here. Although certain grades of copper tubing are allowed, the "standards" discourage copper tubing relative to properly rated hose. Of course the "standards" here are voluntary and only enforced by insurance companies. There are no government standards for propane systems in recreational boats. I believe Canada is the same.
@@todddunn945 The copper pipe is a particular type (no seam) of a certain thickness and diameter.. same with fuel. Fittings are brass compression with copper olives also a test point for gas similar to a tee fitting for a manometer. I have the same thinking as Peter.. regulations for the drain say minimum of 15mm I fitted 28mm. ... and electrical cables must never be near or cross the gas or diesel pipes. No pipes or cables are allowed in the bilge except bilge pump.
@@mySeaPrince_ You are much more highly regulated than we are here. Recreational boats only have a couple of strict regulations to meet. The most strictly enforced are for the head and the details of waste holding tanks. There are also regulations that are enforced for safety equipment (life jackets, flares, fire extinguishers, etc.). The only other regulations are for gasoline (petrol) engines and fuel systems. Diesel is pretty much unregulated. I can build a diesel tank myself out of fiberglass lined plywood and that is considered OK. The ABYC regulations that Peter referred to are a set of "guidelines" made by the American Boat and Yacht Council (ABYC) which is an association of boat builders and equipment manufacturers. They publish guidelines for pretty much everything about boat construction. They are not official government backed regulations and compliance is voluntary. However, since they are all that is out there for most aspects of recreational boats the insurance companies have adopted them and make compliance mandatory if you want insurance. The situation is completely different for commercial boats, particularly those that carry passengers. There is an extensive list of federal regulations that commercial boats have to comply with.
Everywhere is different. Cruising guides and apps like Navionics indicate most of the rings / chains. But in some places you will need to find something else, tree, rock etc. I've never used a wedge etc.
Peter, just to ask, what is your definition of having a vacation cruise with Mrs Z the pup and toy? 🙈 But seriously, is propane like LPG or since the war in Ukraine NLG in Europe we import from Canada and the US? Question because there are maybe different coloric values, needing different nozzles on stoves and so on (building a house on wheels myself) anyways one can do his gas supply things on much worse places considering the beautiful surroundings and just the calmness living on a boat. 👍🇳🇱
Watching the on-board work is always a bit cringey. I would be afraid of dropping tools into the water--and I'm sure that has happened a few times. All in the cause of a good video, right?
Peter, I have been watching your channel pretty much from the beginning. I never cease to be amazed at what a consummate craftsman you are. It doesn't matter what area of construction you are undertaking, it is always done in an elegant way.
Thanks so much.
A 20lb propane tank fits perfectly and securely in a plastic milk crate.
True but it's not a vented locker.
That the "Well hello there!" wasn't a full octave higher than it was in that water will stand as the most underappreciated part of the episode.
It's actually pretty warm
Another task complete, and now you have a cooker!
I am in awe that not only did you perform the contortions of a semi-seasoned swami, but you successfully talked while treading water without succumbing to hypothermia.
Heh, it's actually pretty warm
What’s the world’s most efficient bilge pump!? A scared man with a bucket.
Cheers! 🍺
I love watching other people work 😅.
AGREE ON WOOD WORK SCREWS
And the lovely Jasper swivelchair stands where it belongs. Splendid!
I love it!
Thanks Peter. Another enjoyable episode. I watch on an iPad and there is nothing in the upper right to select for the beer of the week. I have looked everywhere I could to find it on your UA-cam site but am unsuccessful. Can you pls help as it’s important for my sense of episode completion. You’ve introduced me and my wife to the joys of a hazy ipa so we feel warmly about the episodes. Thanks.
Gosh, yikes, good catch.
I'll add a link.
The "never ending" boat 😁
Great work as always Peter , you always find solutions .
Perfect solution my friend nice and tighty i heard that a new transom door was in the works hope to see your success on that matter my friend ohh bye the way Cheers and summer salutations
Contortions will get the best of many. Glad I can deck mine. I should make a box someday.
Port Townsend weather is mostly better, strange year.
Propane gas-tronomical exellence!👌
Seems every episode is more enjoyable than the last. Thanks and thanks again for the shirt.
Well done, that man!!!
Hi Peter, If you are at all worried about the side exit of your locker and the amount of gas that could accumulate, it looks to me from the video like you have enough head room in the locker to whack in something (wood, HDPE,Metal) to take up most of the dead air space. That way you have a "raised floor" to keep the cylinder bases dry and you'd still be able to periodically mop up any condensation if needed. LPG (butane/Propane) has an LEL and UEL of around 2 to 10% so if you can reduce that dead air space easily then at least if you do get a little "boom"(it's a firey word) it won't be enough to compromise your cylinders (Gas comes in cylinders, beer comes in bottles and the army comes in tanks- unless of course it's a production facility then it's a gas "tank"farm) enough to cause a BLEVE (That actually is a Firey word- Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapour Explosion) Just a thought, thanks for sharing your videos and I'm still loving the shirt. regards, Dave
That’s a pretty fine view for the galley slave!😂
Great video. Love the opening in the water. Jealous. Very happy you are cruising this summer aboard MV Geordi. And having a working kitchen is a huge upgrade. Thanks for sharing the build with all of us. Enjoy the sun and please take care of your back.
Ouch, I hate a tweaked back. Stay safe and we'll see you next week.
The propane locker is awesome. Strong work.
You certainly know how to put your body through the mill.
Peter, I hear ya on the messed up back, I completely threw mine out picking up a damn chop saw the wrong way a week ago. BTW, I'm sorry it took so long, but I got some beer ready to ship finally, hopefully it's not bad.
Sorry to hear about your back.
Looking forward to the beer.
Peter. Was that the Hand Hammer knocking in the through hull fixing !!!!!!!!
Great work Peter. Fantastic entertainment.
Foof = gulp.
But a fine piece of work there. Congrats!
Thanks
@@TravelsWithGeordie But I am sure you remembered when the video was uploaded ;-)
Sorry about your back but you did get the stove working.
Very nice intro!! I think I ll copy some things for my content creation 👍🏻🙏🏻
We know you are are a self-professed city guy, but just wondering if you were going to stick your bow north of Dent and Yaculta Rapids this summer? Amazing cruising there. Safe travels.
Hi Peter, I love your work as always. I'm just wondering with the thru hull being on the side of the propane locker and you mentioning that it is an acceptable risk that you could have up to 3/4 inch of space at the bottom of the locker where propane is able to collect, is it possible to fill that bottom portion with a seasafe/non rust inducing liquid. E.g. a gel or something? It would prevent propane gasses from accumulating there. It might be a silly idea though.
Actually a plastic filler panel with two round cutouts to secure the tanks is coming.
Great job (as always) Peter. I have to ask the obvious (and hopefully not too stupid) question. Why didn’t you use the old (cockpit scupper?) through hole instead of drilling a new one?
I'll eventually be reusing that for new cockpit scuppers.
Always amazing to watch your work in progress. I’m no electrician but is placing the solenoid inside the propane locker the safest option? If the tanks do leak inside the locker, granted the tank leak would probably have to be excessive, is the solenoid intrinsically safe? One spark and boom! Get you a beer of the week if you get up to Cape Breton. Happy cruising!
That's a great point. It's required to be in the locker in case there's a leak. One hopes the unit is spark safe.
@@TravelsWithGeordie solenoid does look well sealed and does make sense to be pre regulator. Thanks because I’m planning on putting a locker in my schooner. Your skills amaze!
So Peter, how did you manage the gasketed gas tight seal on the propane locker lid? That little issue is why I broke down and bought a Trident propane locker when I did my install.
Had the same thought. I was thinking a three quarter inch layer of closed cell foam on the bottom with reliefs cut for the tank bases and a depth appropriate layer on the top to seal and hold the tops. Some cam lock latches to finish the set up. I like the side mount thru hull. Air rushing pass would create a vortex vacuum inside the locker with the lid sealed.🙃
Hi Todd.
With UK regulations it would fail 💥
all of it 🤬
In brief...
Everything must be metal.. steel, brass, copper as per regulations..
including the pipe to the cooker and drain.
Pipe from cylinder to locker fitting has a particular number on it with a date.
@@mySeaPrince_ Things are definitely different here. Although certain grades of copper tubing are allowed, the "standards" discourage copper tubing relative to properly rated hose. Of course the "standards" here are voluntary and only enforced by insurance companies. There are no government standards for propane systems in recreational boats. I believe Canada is the same.
@@todddunn945
The copper pipe is a particular type (no seam) of a certain thickness and diameter.. same with fuel.
Fittings are brass compression with copper olives also a test point for gas similar to a tee fitting for a manometer.
I have the same thinking as Peter..
regulations for the drain say minimum of 15mm I fitted 28mm.
... and electrical cables must never be near or cross the gas or diesel pipes.
No pipes or cables are allowed in the bilge except bilge pump.
@@mySeaPrince_ You are much more highly regulated than we are here. Recreational boats only have a couple of strict regulations to meet. The most strictly enforced are for the head and the details of waste holding tanks. There are also regulations that are enforced for safety equipment (life jackets, flares, fire extinguishers, etc.). The only other regulations are for gasoline (petrol) engines and fuel systems. Diesel is pretty much unregulated. I can build a diesel tank myself out of fiberglass lined plywood and that is considered OK. The ABYC regulations that Peter referred to are a set of "guidelines" made by the American Boat and Yacht Council (ABYC) which is an association of boat builders and equipment manufacturers. They publish guidelines for pretty much everything about boat construction. They are not official government backed regulations and compliance is voluntary. However, since they are all that is out there for most aspects of recreational boats the insurance companies have adopted them and make compliance mandatory if you want insurance. The situation is completely different for commercial boats, particularly those that carry passengers. There is an extensive list of federal regulations that commercial boats have to comply with.
I thought gas fittings use only “pipe dope “. Not ptfe tape.
I use tape specific for gas lines.
Just a quick question on the stern ties. Are there tie-ons in most locations of the rocks or do you have to create a wedge to tie to?
Everywhere is different. Cruising guides and apps like Navionics indicate most of the rings / chains. But in some places you will need to find something else, tree, rock etc. I've never used a wedge etc.
The only problem I see with this setup is a pipe leak. Can you put a propane alarm in the bilge?
That is exactly the concern and yes, there is a sensor in the bilge.
Are those Gr-VIII Zip-ties ?
I don't know, should they be?
@@TravelsWithGeordie ;)
I was wondering where I can buy the plastic tub that you used for the propane tanks. That will hold two 20 bs tanks?? Thanks!!!
I got it from Industrial Plastics in Victoria BC. It's a box for four L-16 lithium batteries.
Peter, just to ask, what is your definition of having a vacation cruise with Mrs Z the pup and toy? 🙈 But seriously, is propane like LPG or since the war in Ukraine NLG in Europe we import from Canada and the US? Question because there are maybe different coloric values, needing different nozzles on stoves and so on (building a house on wheels myself) anyways one can do his gas supply things on much worse places considering the beautiful surroundings and just the calmness living on a boat. 👍🇳🇱
In Canada and the US, those cylinders are propane, LNG.
Thanks!
What! No tongue oil? 😂
Heh,
👍
Kerphuve
Watching the on-board work is always a bit cringey. I would be afraid of dropping tools into the water--and I'm sure that has happened a few times. All in the cause of a good video, right?
I've never dropped anything off the boat. A few things in the boat shed though.
I really like your videos but I'm unsubscribing only because I'm into sailboats. Sorry. Keep making great content though.
Sorry to see you go.