E-Bikes for Prepared Civilians | E Ride Pro SS is INSANE
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- Are E-bikes the new frontier of modern mobility? We put hundreds of miles on two E Ride Pro SS bikes from Fast Frontier, taking them from the streets, to a gravely chert pit, and to dense woodland. How do they perform vs dirt bikes? How well can you load them down with gear? What speed, mileage, and recharge rate can you get out of them? Suffice to say, we were impressed.
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00:00 The New Frontier
02:05 E Ride Pro SS
09:17 Solar Charging
11:17 Light Loadout
20:27 Heavy Loadout
27:48 Urban Riding
29:32 Final Thoughts
Next week: tactical Lime/Bird scooters for urban combat
That is actually one of my contingency escape plans from an urban environment if the roads are jammed.
I mean, even something like a Honda Ruckus has some real practicality in over-loaded tiny streets. 100 miles on one gallon. Heck you could stick a milk jug full of gas under the seat in a pinch, and double that.
You had me at scooter
You can fit two ppl on those if you “Titanic” that bish
@@bravotwozero535 Look into a Jetson. Its foldable also. Bought mine used twice for 300.
I don’t care about the charge time as much as I care about when someone says “the company says it’ll last 90 miles but more realistically it’ll be 50” that’s a massive difference
And then after two hours it did NOT charge from 20%-90%. It’s only charged to 70%, that is a much larger margin that we should be accepting from the company. Especially considering they’re almost brand new.
They advertise a distance range, which is dependent on environment, terrain, load, and how you ride. Which we found to be accurate to their description. The charging was slower than expected though.
How many batteries can I buy for 1k
Charging was inaccurate. I was told directly by eride it’s 20-90% in 3 hours. 20-100 in 4. I never heard 2.
@@bigfootracks2 a battery is about 2200$ for my bike, so half a battery
These are perfect if you need to do a wheelie during civil unrest.
I know the comment was sarcastic but just gonna throw this in. I remember seeing some special forces use dirt bikes in Afghanistan if i remember correctly locals were calling them "hells angels" apparently dirt bikes can run over IED's and even certain types of mines and not trigger them! Not to mention they are less likely to drive on to them since the tire width is smaller also would be great for fast operations in all kinds of difficult terrains. Also e-bikes are already being used in Ukraine for reconnaissance.
Sounds wheelie cool to me!
He its working for the Russians
Lmao
Biggest advantage is you can move quickly, silently.
Silently?? They edited out a pretty funky wine. It's not dirt bike loud, but not silent.
@@GrahamBartleI have a dirt bike, suzuki 400sm specifically for bugout. It's LOUD, the ebike my neighbor has at a distance I don't even hear him on it, meanwhile me, you can hear me almost a mile away.
The detection between ebike and gas is night&day.
In fact if I have to use hearing protection with gas bike because it's fking loud
And PISS off all the " we need oil!" Ignorant MAGA out there.
Not silent at all.
A slight disadvantage. If you run the e bikes too hard for too long they can catch fire
Genghis Khan would think that setup is lit.
Horse still better probably
@@breckfreerideyou can eat the horse when it breaks 😎
@@L0wSkiller you can eat these too if your man enough en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Lotito
#heelies4heros
No he wouldn’t
I picked up a Talaria Sting MX4 last year and it didn't take long for me to notice it has way more potential than just a yard toy. Fast forward a year and now it's fully built, running over 33 kw of power, with an upgraded motor, controller, battery, brakes, suspension, bigger wheels, and lights, and all the titanium bling. It'll run 80-90mph wide open on the road, and has torque that is unmatched. It will lift the front wheel to the moon at basically any speed below 50 mph with no effort whatsoever. It's every bit as fast if not faster than my 450 race bike. Dead quiet, almost no maintenance, no smell, minimal thermal signature, small, lightweight, the list goes on and on. It's now my go to for hunting. Leave the 4 wheeler or side by side at the camp and just take the bike. You can ride right up on game or right up to your hunting location. No almost no sound and zero smell is a game changer and as great as it is for hunting, there are just as many tactical advantages.
What's the run time, 1 hour and 24 hours to charge. 🤡
@@AwakeningWARRlOR it’s a lot easier now a days to produce and store electricity. Fuel… not so much. Charge time will greatly depend on your setup. Modern battery technology can charge at 1c all day no problem.
@@AwakeningWARRlORCharges in 2-3 hours and lasts easily 4+ hours of woods riding if you aren't ripping on it constantly. My enclosed trailer that I converted into a stealth camper has 15 kwh of battery storage which is enough to charge the battery 5 times over and that's not counting the 1.2 kw of solar input and there's the option for a generator but it has never been needed. I have 2 batteries for the bike and can swap them out in seconds. By the time one is low, the other is fully charged. Seems like the only 🤡 here is you.
I’ve got 2 of the sting r mx4s. They charge in 2.5-3 hours from 15% and run 25-40 miles depending on how hard you run em. We have dirt bikes and a Krx that sit between trips to Windrock but use the e bikes daily around our property. On sport mode, they run about like my 125 2 strokes.
Spot on.
This is the type of content that you guys do best; introducing concepts and ideas that really haven't been touched based on yet or at the very least are niche and are now being brought out into the open. Your first dirt bike video, the homesteading one, gift ideas, alternative training methods with no ammo, etc. More of these videos please.
Spot on
Recon Marines have adopted electronic dirtbikes for mid range reconnaissance missions, specifically the Zero MMX.
Yeah, those are awesome.
@dirty-civilian As the owner of a Zero FX(srreet legal civilian version) They are awesome in perfect, high grip conditions. There is no E-bike on the planet that does well in sand/loose conditions, and nothing kills a battery faster.
@jhock2781 perfect for the sandbox 😂
@@HenrikSherwood Haha. Yeah right. Only if you have the logistics to support it! The batteries weigh a ton and they take like 8 hours to charge.
@@jhock2781 That's where the US shines throughout history, logistics
Back from the last video, actually got to see these things in use in a force on force exercise. Our (3d LAR) jump teams rode bikes out of the backs of LAV-LOGs (2 bikes per LOG, 4 Scouts to a pair). At night, the things are practically dead silent with a smaller overall signature than conventional bikes or 4x4 vehicles with better maneuverability. The downsides the scouts found were long charge times in comparison to standard refueling, reliability in sandy conditions, and increased risk with inexperienced riders or riding at night. Overall, we found out they were incredibly useful for reconnaissance.
Honestly? For long range operations, a serial hybrid would be dope as hell. You have the range and quick refuel of IC engines, torque of motors, and you can do silent mode on battery only for a few critical klicks.
I served in GUR Legion in Ukraine. We had something like this. They were game changers for recce's and ambushes. Plus they were fun as hell to whip around.
Bought an ebike for work commuting last year & I find myself using it at least 5x a week👍🏼 saving a stack on gas too
“I’m gonna touch it one day” 😅 dude is speaking for all of us. This is a great part 2 of the sustainment bike video
You should either keep an extra belt or get a chain drive conversion for reliability. You could also upgrade to a GATES GT4 belt and install an extra belt around the midshaft for easy replacement.
Or get a talaria sting R. Chain driven, about $500 cheaper, and is only like 4 mph slower in top speed. About 15 lbs heavier though.
@@375Cheytac That's what I'm saying. For serious field use, gearbox bikes are going to be way more reliable than belt drive. I have beat the living hell out of my MX3, gone >1000 mi without oil change, it just keeps going. Tighten the chain, Slime your tires and the bike is good to go for a long, long time
@@375Cheytac exactly, but sometimes you have to make due with what you already have.
@@RDT_IR Definitely
Am I missing something, these specifically look to be chain driven?
So, in Haditha in 2007(ish), the previous Marines had made a berm all the way around the 3 cities. We controlled all the traffic in and out of there.
When they built the berm, they took *every* motorcycle, because it gave the "insurgents" too much capability to move quickly.
Food for thought.
Just opened my eyes to probably one of the most useful tools in the tactical realm. Both tactical and tacticool. Silent enough to easily lose a tail or conduct recon and light enough to attach to your jeep as a secondary. I probably wouldn't use it as a primary specifically for the load out limitations but as an attachable secondary or exploration tool or silent attack unit it's perfect. Definitely a winner with this one and now I'm looking into them lol
Yep, and that’s exactly how they’re being utilized by… dudes. 🤙
In shtf i would pull my camper where i wanted before all the gas went bad . Then just get around on a ebike . I got enough solar to charge it everyday on the camper .
@@avancalledrupert5130 People will take your camper.
@@gary7vn So will they do with gas pumps
Funny story to humble myself... first day riding my Talaria, I didn't realize how much torque it had... first time I go to ride it, whiskey throttle, threw me over the bars and into a fence... still have a lump on my stomach 10 months later...
Could be a hernia sir! If it hurts get it looked at by a doctor! Big falls can do that. Humbling is how we learn, but hopefully you at least had fun!
@@alexlohan2988 Yeah my doc said it is probably a hernia but not to worry if it isn't causing pain
lol damn bro. I’ve whiskey throttled before but luckily the bike went out from under me I didn’t go over it
I 100 percent support this and I am happy about these guys. We can't be together but we're still with you and we'll do our part!
You boys have been absolutely crushing the intros. Keep it up!
You guys hit a home run with this video content! The e-bikes and gear featured are fantastic. You guys keep putting out some awesome content-keep up the great work!
Keep em coming …love the content look forward to these videos every week
Great info as always. I really hope y'all can afford to give your videographer/editor a raise after this video cuz it looks so professional!
Your guys videos quality is insane! Keep it up guys. I’m always waiting for your videos.
So glad to see this topic, it's exactly what I was wondering about for the entire dirt bike video a while back 😆
Fantastic video! Production, music, scenery, fantastic.
Oh man, SO excited for future vids on these. Been eyeballing this for a while, then boom. One of my favorite channels drops a video on with promises of more?? Looks like I might actually have to start saving up to get one
Glad you guys caught up I was saying ebikes are a great no noise solution for travel almost anywhere since the first video!
This is my favorite UA-cam channel ever! Keep it up my dudes
E-Bikes are so awesome outdoors. I bought a Rad Power Rover 6 a few months ago, added some racks and bags and it's the perfect off road/bug out bike for under 2Gs.
Downside…. to use for hunting or fun at this moment you have to find a way to hard mount your rifle to the machine in a case if on fed/some state land…… easy fix! Old cowboy leather horse holster on the front fork
Just get a ATV rifle mount and put it on the handle bars
What? Is this really a “law” that sounds stupid. The government wants me to not maintain control of my weapon?
While a stupid law, that would look bitchin
@@basscannon762I think it’s another safety rule, kinda like using a rope to pull your weapon into the stand so you don’t fall with it and get impaled
‘Amped Bikes’ sells a rifle scabard specifically for these. Might be worth looking at.
What I would like to see is, test this in an overnighter outside. Get in the night under nods out of the city, finde and build shelter and get back in 🤞🏻
You read our minds. That’s one we have cooking.
@@dirty-civilian I’m so excited for this one! Great Content btw, just love from Germany 😘🤞🏻
You guys definitely need to do an updated video on the changes you make. I’d love to get one, but use it as sort of a pack mule with the ability to throw a ruck on the back and carry some larger items if possible. Additionally it would be interesting to see what kind of changes that would bring to speed, handling, and distance.
I like Drew's setup for how he's attempting to attach a bag, personally I'd like to see if there's a way to hard Mount a either aluminum or magnesium frame of tube on either side of where the rear wheel would be to potentially mount a sort of hard case storage options or even just like a flat rear panel to mount a full backpack onto to just keep it stabilized so you can dismount off of it if you need to. That being said it would be a really interesting concept to see how much wattage you would need from solar panels to charge for how long, wattage x Time = full charge, because if you are trying to do more a long-range reconnaissance role with using the spike it'd be an interesting concept to play around with to be able to just disconnect from your primary group go scout ahead by a day or two and then peel back
Like that you explore all aspects of being prepared. Even when it’s on the outer edge of practicality. It still needs to be explored. .
I think its super practical for shtf. I have enough solar on my camper to charge it every day.
great video. i rented an ebike on vacation at lake tahoe and i was so impressed i rented it the entire week and rode it instead of driving for the most part but mine was so light weight i could easily put it in the back of the truck. It even had a back rack and a version with a basket and even a pull behind rig all solutions to store extra stuff. The bike in the video would benefit from having storage options.
was a fan of the scenario based video you guys did. would love to see more of those with stuff like this
Looool Drew’s random questions from his poncho shelter
I’d been considering something like this over gas powered the day before your video dropped - great stuff as always - keep killin’ it!
Fantastic presentation guys!✅
You guys are dialing in the memes and cutaways like studs, keep it up!
Rear rack or ebike trailers are awesome
Production value here is excellent.
Love the concept and this video answered many of the questions l had. E-bikes would be excellent for quickly moving between positions, over terrain 4 wheel vehicles may find impassable.
The best prepared citizen video yet. This concept is awesome.
Awesome video gentlemen.
I grew up racing motocross and desert. I've been doing the e-bike thing for quite a while, and I love it. I've been thinking about buying an all electric, I'm in the research phase still. I'm leaning towards either the E-Ride Pro SS or building it ground up. These bikes are rapidly catching up to the power of a good 250 dirt bike. People are modding them to be even faster. My number one concern is that the suspension is not going to keep up with the speed. People can get flying on one of these, but if they hit some whoops or serious rough terrain, I am not confident that suspension is going to play nice. I guess we'll see.
Super cool bikes, Im looking forward to see more videos about them. Keep it up guys! =)
The hitch mount 600lb motorcycle hauler from Harbor freight works SWEET for these as well. Just did a 2000mile roadtrip with my Talaria on back, 90mph no problem. Lets you keep the pickup bed free for gear.
Subscribed for Mohammed Hoblos at 17:49 - GOLD hahaha
Bike pannier set up would be great.
Nice camera work as always!
I have the Storm Bee. 75 mph 104 volt 55 amp. Its a full size bike and it handles trails great. Pulls hills no problem
Dope video! I would definitely purchase!
I can see the use for one because they're pretty quiet. And they can cover a lot of ground quickly. Pretty handy for a get out of Dodge situation.
Great video I just bought a surron and this video was perfect timing
How does the surron compare to this one?
@@mischifischi well for me personally my plan was to purchase a surron straight from china you save about a $1000 that way and then buy a upgraded controller and battery sell the stock battery and controller new and recoup a bit of my funds then i would be at about $6000 total (maybe) and have about 100 miles of range on average riding using a chi 72max and have slightly more power the the SS but if you want to just buy a bike and be done with it the SS is the way to go
@@Mountain_Armory thank you for your answer! Unfortunately im living in Germany and as far i know its not possible to get the SS street legal here. So my option is the Surron. The Surron is a little bit smaller compared to the SS it seems.
If you need extra storage
Here in the uk they have what we motorcyclists call a tank bag these are either magnetic or they strap on or both.
As for strapping stuff to the rear make sure the contents are light.
Any weight needs to be kept central as to not upset the balance of the bike. When I say central this is around the foot peg position so just in front where the tank would normally be or as you have your foot on a peg that triangle section just at the back of your legs but if getting these type of bags make sure left and right bag both weight the same as again not to upset the balance of the bike. If this is not followed what will happen the bike will feel different in left and right turns hence one bag weighing more let’s say the right bag the bike will tip in faster on a right handa.
Bikes are dangerous enough as they are don’t make it anymore dangerous make sure it’s balanced👍 top tip.
Spare parts would be a good idea to chains sprockets wheel bearings brake pads discs fuses suitable wire spare battery motor ect. How durable is the switch gear or bar controls??
ive been wanting to get this exact bike since it came out
Throughly enjoyed this video 🤙
Nice. I've got a Bakcou Mule. Same but different. super fun at night under nods.
I ride a 23' KTM excf 500 with all the goodies. Loud and proud!! Im very interested to see what you two do to these bikes. Crushing the content guys. Keep up the great work!
Honestly bike like that would be pretty sweet, just muffle it so it's way quieter
It's got an aftermarket ECU with TacoMoto tunes in it and a FMF 4.1 muffler. I wanted to see what the bike was capable of and it does not disappoint! I've got all the factory parts sitting on the shelf and the OE muffler is pretty quiet at the cost of mid to top end power.
Big Like and hello from Ukraine! Watching you guys few years, great job 👏
Can you guys quit wasting US taxpayers money and stop supporting Zelensky. its as if youre going through another one of their holodomors.
Those things look tight as heck
Let’s all be serious here the fact it’s quiet compared too a 4 stroke and forget a 2 stroke motor gives you a serious advantage. Also you will make amazing shooting practice for that one guy that’s been in his hide for like 3 days just waiting for that very moment.
I’ve wanted a dirt bike for a while now. In my area there’s a bunch of sick trails. Problem is with my work schedule sometimes riding in the early morning or at night is what works for me. But the noise of a dirt bike would probably get to many heads over in my direction. This seems like a fun way to go around riding and gets some more NVG time.
This is soo cool!..... And surprisingly practical. I've been drawing up a way to put something like this onto my sailboat. That I can deploy from my dinghy. Best of both worlds perhaps?
You guys have an awesome bugout setup. Mine isn't as expensive, but im ready just the same
I’ve got 2, love em.
Rich McGee over here
Got a Talaria MX4 last week. A little quieter still then the bikes that use belts like EridePro and the Surron. Youll want handlebar risers and probably 21/18 wheel set if you are a tall rider. Aside from all the fun, it’s part of my current tsunami evac plan to get up a nearby mountain…
I'd like supplemental charging with solar panels. Sure not a lot of surface area for it but it could help with leaving it for a time to get another 10-20% charge while you do whatever to get back to it.
Awesome video once again.. Yall always deliver. I would love a vid on what kind of wet/muddy gear you guys use or recommend. I live in Florida and most recently had a range day in the rain and thought I would be good with just a rain jacket and water proof shoes but I was mistaken. All the water drained off my jacket to my pants and made it a difficult day of training.
Fellow Florida Man here, and I know the feeling. Now matter what we do here, whatever season it is, rain or shine, you're getting wet. Even just from sweating.
I've been wearing these lightweight nylon cargo pants made by Colombia. They have long pants, shorts, and combos; long with a zipper that allows removal of the bottom leg below the knee.
They dry in less than 10 mins, and are pretty tough when it comes to tear resistance.
People who haven't spent much time here running around the swampy mess we call home don't realize how difficult the terrain is. I'm in SWFL, and surrounded by salt marsh, canals, bays and flats. Been using my 'yak a lot, and the possibilities with that in a WROL/TEOTWAWKI/SHTF are endless. Gonna look into one of these E-bikes as well.
Something else I keep close is a small salt water - fresh water distillation bottle; filters don't remove salt, and the water here is mostly salt or brackish. The channel Nighthawkinlight has a video on making one.
Didn't mean to write a book! Hope this helps you out, us Florida Boys gotta stick together.
Be cool, brother!
As Someone who uses an ebike every day. They are cool and very convenient when you don't need to go very far, or you just want to have a little fun around the neighborhood
I commute on a Zero FX and while it is perfect for that and light off roading(If you can truck it to where you are riding), I couldn't imagine not also having a CRF450RL that can actually go places and is far more capable in the rough stuff.
I run a 72v 57ah battery in my talaria and can get 60-70 miles on a charge. not bad at all
Brutal work
I’ve been waiting for so long for the return of bikes on here
Way better than any gun review out in the past few months. Genuinely impressed.
Been looking at e-bikes for a while, mainly pedal with battery assist and preferably foldable to throw in a trunk / truck bed. And I hadn't thought about the Tactical applications for them. Speedwize, these will blow the ones I've been looking at out of the water, but as far as range, as long as you're willing to crank the pedals there's no stopping them. Further, some of the new models are two-wheel drive. As usual, thanks for helping everyone here to think outside the box.
I have a foldable e-bike and I think it will come in handy in a SHTF situation. I can power it with solar. Pedal it when the battery dies. It really is silent compared to what these guys are riding. And honestly it's plain enough that it won't attract as much attention as an electric dirt bike.
this, alongside new electric paramotors, makes me super excited for future personal transportation
Great video!
Not into bikes but these are cool and have so much potential
You could add an emergency splint in your gear set up while riding and a folding walking stick so if you do break a leg you can still trek out.
Awesome video, as usual, with an awesome bike.With all the equipment and goods to buy, 5k for this is out of reach for most.
I have a Surron light bee x which is unbelievably quiet & awesome. I also have t Eride pross u guys have and it is so fun, insanely fast, impossible to keep up with and only weighs 136 lbs! If that's not tactical idk what is! I also ride wheelies like crazy 😂
Watch out for wire lines around trees while riding, especially at night. Absolutely lethal. Would probably be something to worry about in daily riding and especially in a SHTF situation.
Is there any way to counter a wire line? I think the only way you could would to only travel slow.
I have a surron and it's the perfect quiet recon
Thanks for the video, I have a Delfast Top 2.0 and I have been saying that these are great tactical tools for years, thanks for demonstrating it. In a urban setting you can wear or attach those big uber eats food bags so you blend in and none would know if you have a riffle or drone kit in your bag. you could put bullet proof shields in the bags panels so you can have a mobile shield. You can also store alot of equipment in those. You could add bullet proof side panels to the bike and airless tires or bullet proof tires. I would suggest adding spare bike chains to your kit because that bike is a mid drive and if the chain breaks you are stuck vs a hub motor which can keep going even without the chain. Also if youre in a situation where you need an explosion you can use the battery as an explosive...a $2k bomb lol
Tire patch kit is probably going to be a good idea to have too
Along the same lines, there is foam tubes that cannot go flat
"I'm gonna touch it one day" that is a meme and a half, Drew 🤣🤣🤣🤣💀
If you haven't, look into the trailers for dirt bikes. They look very good.
Great video. I've been looking into these and other e-motos of the like. One thing I highly recommend is wearing gloves. Surprised with how prepped you 2 seem that you went OTB without wearing gloves.
Edit: I see you recommend some at 13:45. Wear em brotha!
great video !
After rebuilding the drz 400 engine from the bearings out, this looks real nice. Kinda getting sick of maintenance.
Big advantage is you can park em near an enemy and they catch fire.
Where my daughter lives in NY they’re about to ban them. They are melting siding and catching buildings and brush on fire. Wherever they are leaning.
This would be great in any scenario, even fleeing a city or suburban area.
Ebikes have honestly become a great consideration, for decent money you get quiet, fast and around 100 miles of range. Definitely worth it in my opinion.
Don't forget the barbecued crotch when it suffers thermal runaway! You can join the alphabet soup community quickly!👍👍
I’d like an electric bike. I love the idea of having a dirt bike for a SHTF scenario but would be cool to have something that can’t be heard from miles away. If you ever wanna do something like “Make A Wish” except instead of sick children it’s just a poor adult who can barely afford to train a couple/few times per month. Also would like some night vision and to have my e bike headlight in IR please. Thank you guys so much 😂👍
I have a suzuki super moto, SPECIFICALLY to bugout. It gets about 95 miles on a tank if im ripping the throttle (alway am) ,
Biggest downside is the sound, ultra loud , need ear protection.
And... its 310lb at its lightest .
Just bring 1/2 the weight is AMAZING, huge game changer to he nimble.
Yall need to talk on the weight more being 150lb is crazy light. The best sumo bikes on the street are at 250lb so knocking 100lb is magic
26:24 i was waiting for that cant believe😂😂😂
Literally just kitted out an ebike and thought about how useful they would be for preparedness lol. Then I see this!
I really liked what you guys have presented with this video. I got my hands on a Atom ELEEK. You validate my concept of use for this bike. wish I could send a pic.this bike was actually use in Ukraine.
You’re definitely gonna want to upgrade to better pegs, and bark busters to protect your brake levers are a must off road. Another common upgrade out the gate is a more durable front fork and better adjustable rear suspension + more durable hardware, annnd a more sturdy skit plate
Been thinking about it, since propane is good for ten years and you can put a massive tank on the property and even bury some, what about a propane motorcycle
The only one of these style of e-bikes I'd get are the Zero Motorcycles FR/S or their DR/T. They're the only one on the market that actually handles rough conditions but those are over 10K which most people won't have and on tip of that, they're still limited to about 100 miles.