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@@alritedave No, we didn't...BUT, there's a lot of brown shit floating in the soak bucket. I feel I can take his word for it that they were pretty bad. Be good to know the optimal soak time though
Why not boil the vinegar? Let soak 5-10 minutes then. Better yet if possible get a plastic bucket, make sure the items aren't aluminum and pour it in Mix water and sodium hydroxide
😂 Almost peed myself laughing at your comment. But you are right; I can relate to that as well as I realised Yesterday that I have two batches of wine that I started in August 2017 still in their fermentation vessels! Perhaps I can now use them to remove rust ...I wonder🤔
@Thanos Caar is a dead meme I am a woman and I think in terms of how hot or interesting this guy is, I would go out with this guy. I probably would not go out with the actor you are talking about.
Literally have no idea why this was recommended to me. or why I'm watching it. but hey ho, i enjoy a little spontaneity as much as the next guy cleaning tools in his garage.
As a 30+ year veteran of the iron/steel industry...I hope you chose a bronze/brass bristle brush for initial cleaning. A common steel wire brush; as well as steel wool can induce ferrides in high alloy steels, causing new corrosion. I once saw a $1000 stainless mixing tank from a photo lab completely ruined when steel wool was used to clean it.
Does your experience and knowledge allow you to suggest where to start in the removal of extensive rust from Spanish American War era swords? These are historical to my family so I would like not to ruin them in my efforts to restore them to some form of luster. Thanks!
Honestly, if me, I would have them professionally restored with a lazer rust removal process. Why gamble with anything else, when speaking of heirlooms?
Over a period of 19 months, the oxygen in the air dissolves in the vinegar solution and continues to attack the metals. Meanwhile, the vinegar continues to remove the rust, which opens the way for new oxidation. The only reason for some of the tools to have survived is that it is a slow process.
@@daredevil3076 The guy I replied to deleted his comment so how do you know what we were talking about? Because I can't even remember what he said. but judging from my comment is was something rude that p*ssed me off. Also my point was soaking over night does the job doesn't need 19 months. But you're welcome anyway.
Thank you for going through this process and documenting it. You have confirmed what we've long known, which is; Acid eats rust chemically, so when left long enough, deep rust pockets (that are invisible to the naked eye) compromise the integrity of metal.
Commercial store bought vinegar is a mix of water and vinegar acid. Yes, the acid attacks rust, but it attacks metal too. The best rust removal happens inside the first 2 hours. Anything after that allows the vinegar to begin attacking the metal too. [Actually it attacks the metal instantly, but without a magnifying glass you can''t see that with only a 2 or 3 hour soak.] Leave something in the vinegar overnight and you can be sure it will have tiny pit marks etched into it. Leave it in for months and I am surprised anything survived.
This is a good question. I did have the container lightly sealed with Press and Seal for most of the time. But toward the end, the plastic didn't seal as well. Perhaps the dissolved iron slowed down the evaporation? If anyone else has a good answer, I'd love to hear it.
well it is simple the vinegar became a saturated solution and that means that the vinegar did not have the capacity to hold more then x amount of rust and in turn could not continue dissolving the rest.
felix eriksson, it's not so much a matter of a saturated solution, rather that the acid in the vinegar was probably neutralised by all that iron oxide. Also that doesn't effect the evaporation time. He covered it.
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cody would've tried to refine precious metals out of them because there was a 0.0005% chance there was platinum in them. He would've gotten a bead 1/4 the size of a pinhead and called it a decent amount.
swaneye34 Bill Nye works for fucking Disney to brainwash kids with his stupid scripted fake ass knowledge. He isn't even a real fucking scientist. He's just a god damn good actor.
"[Bill Nye] isn't even a real fucking scientist. He's just a god damn good actor." Since when are degrees in mechanical engineering not considered a part of the sciences? Since Conservative networks and big-oil started attacking him for not being a climate-change denier?
Oh, for God's sake... Leave the tools in vinegar overnight (ONE night), rinse, scrub. If there's any rust left (which is unusual), try a second night. I don't know why people think "the longer, the better!" Your experiment shows exactly why you shouldn't do that -- vinegar is an ACID and will eat away at more than just rust, given enough time! One day, folks, is plenty for the vast majority of rust problems!!!
Checking in once a day seems like a good rule of thumb, thanks for sharing. However, I just finished restoring a rusty bench grinder. I treated it for five(ish) days with vinegar, followed by wire wheel, followed by three weeks in molasses, and there was STILL rust on it when I finally decided to just spray it with rust converting spray paint. The duration needed really seems to vary.
Wow... That must have been some really tough rust! Perhaps the composition of the steel has an effect on how quickly the rust comes off??? I've, literally, never had to soak more than 2 days! I stand corrected!
Andrew Reuter i have a few rusty cresent wrenches and a bunch of and small bits for my drill... someone borrowed my stuff left outside in rain... and yeah not good at all
For light rust, a day in a bucket of apple cider vinegar should do it... for medium rust... about 2 days in vinegar does it for me... maybe up to 4.. for heavy, like a week. If you're leaving anything in for 19 months, it's likely there won't be much left there when you remove it if it was that much rusted. The main key you need to know is, when you remove it, don't wash the item, or blow dry it... water and heat will start rust back immediately. Instead, wipe it with a somewhat clean rag dry, then brush on with a paint brush phosphoric acid and let it sit. Before the phosphoric acid gets super sticky and dries, wipe it off. This will stop any further rust from forming. If you got really tough rust pits that won't come out, alternate between soaking it in apple cidar vinegar and phosphoric acid, back and forth, and scrub it with a wire brush in between... while going back and forth between these you can run the piece under a tap as you scrub the rust loose like it was mud... just as soon as you are done go back into the other chemical for more derusting. If you are short on time and want to derust something as fast as possible chemically, and it's a small part, go straight into phosophoric acid. Great for small parts that can go in a mason jar or big pickle jar. If it's a bigger part, paint it with phosphoric acid with a brush and wrap in plastic, and uncover and keep repainting it periodically to keep it in wet with phosphoric acid. Apple Cider Viengar from Walmart or the grocery store by the gallon is cheapest... followed by white vinegar which doesn't smell so bad. Lemon juice works too and smells nice but is quite expensive.
John Donahue Probably true, though I suspect it's less forgiving than relatively mild vinegar. What kind of results vs. amount time soaking have you seen with Prep and Etch?
Care must be taken when using vinegar to remove rust from items that are/ were chrome or zinc plated. If left a day or so the vinegar will remove the zinc/ chrome plating. The problem is that there are carcinogenic elements used in both chroming and zinc plating and these will now be floating around in the vinegar/ rust soup. The most dangerous is the gold coloured plating with the slight rainbow/ oil-slick effect on the surface. This is called hexavalent chromate and it is highly carcinogenic to the point that it was banned in many countries. So, extreme care needs to be taken when disposing of the used vinegar and anything it has come in touch with it.
So just to confirm. Are you saying that leaving the tools in vinegar for that long does not damage the steel? For example, the box wrench that is now a pry bar, is that because the rust was so bad or because of 19mo in vinegar?
Chris Lawrence: Good question! For the "pry bar," I'm guessing that that end of the wrench was submerged in the 1" or so of rusty muck at the bottom of the trash can. Being surrounded by all that gunk probably sped up the oxidation process there. (As far as I know, complete tools could have been dissolved down there. I didn't keep track of what I put into the can at the beginning of the experiment. Wasn't supposed to last this long...) So yeah, the 19-month exposure did damage the metal, but most of that was limited to the surfaces of the tools, like with the open end of the wrench. The pitting in the impact sockets were likely hidden rust pockets, though.
i don t think it dissolveses because that small spring surrvived......and looks too me it dida great job,did some derusting myself with phosphoric acid but it is expensive and fast,this oe is cheap and slow but i love the outcome.
Fe(s) + 2 H2O(l) ⇌ Fe(OH)2(s) + H2(g) Fe(OH)2(s) + 2CH3CO2H(l) ⇌ Fe(CH3CO2H)2(aq) Or something along those lines. What I mean, iron keeps rusting inside the vinegar, in fact it does it even faster now that it has vinegar disolving the "protective" oxide that covers the metal. So yes, vinegar damages the steel, as it oxidates faster inside it.
If you suspend the tools in vinegar so they aren't swimming in their own oxides, you should see minimal corrosion, as the acid has affinity for the oxides a lot more than the metal itself. Other acids can be better or worse as far as this affinity goes, oxalic acid for instance is even better than vinegar.
It's used as wood bleach, to remove black stains from water penetration. That might get you in the right aisle to start checking ingredients. Not sure since I buy it online. Oh, it causes cancer, so you know its the good stuff.
I've used vinegar to clean out an old metal fuel tank, worked perfectly. Better than what I had ever thought it would. That fuel tank is still in use today and no issues with rust ever since. Although I did have to replace the small inline fuel filter numerous times until it was totally clean. Just a little bit of first hand experience with something that used to be a "throw away" item if it had rust inside of it! Cheers.
@@NowLedgeOutpost Nope, hard to suggest anything without seeing it, but a shallow dish/tote/tub with vinegar in it and rotate the part in that (gradually) might be the way to go, but again, that is dependent on the actual part itself and your call. It will take much longer that way. Some parts you must use a softer scrubbing brush, on the ones that are chunky steel, you can even bravely attempt a wire brush. But the vinegar WILL eat into the rust, not the steel,
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somehow this video showed up on my suggested videos, very cool accidental experiment. Also really liked the florescent bulb buzz in the final shot, really excellent touch for cinematic effect.
I love how this guy's "creator loves this comment" mark is on a majority of these comments, it shows that this guy pays attention to what his audience is saying. good video!
High quality video, quick and to the point commentary, along with stunningly good camera work. All around, this video is one of the most well put together demonstrations I've ever seen on youtube, not even mentioning the amount of "prep" that went into the actual vinegar soak. Props to you m8, great stuff.
uwais qarani do.... Do you not understand how enemas work????? Ok so when a guy or gal and a douche have a very intimate relationship, they put the anal douche up their ass after filling that douche with water, or in this case vinegar, they pump their ass full of water, and then they wait a bit, and go to the toilet, and then all their shit comes out in a lumpy soup.
The fact that he PROBABLY doesn't intend to use the files doesn't mean it's any less a bad idea to show clear coating them on the Internet. The poor things have enough abuse to deal with as it is, what with everyone storing them all banged up against each other, never carding them, etc.
@@roelvian that's not how that works though. The vinegar will absolutely eat away at the metal itself. I often use vinegar to remove scale from the pieces that I have smithed, if I forget a keyring for a few extra days it absolutely will corrode the metal, not just the scale.
Idk why but as soon as I clicked on this vid I felt bad because this guy has 1k subs and deserves way more than what he has.And he probably put around a day or two to make this video so I don't understand why he gets hate. I mean he looks like a nice guy:)
Thought about it, but it was November, it was already cold in the garage, and the temperature was on track to plummet even further. And I wanted to take care of that tub of horror before it got tipped over. :|
I had a pair of needle nose pliers that were lightly rusted. I soaked them in vinegar for a couple of hours, then used a scrub brush on them, and oiled them, and they look like new. Best thing for tools is to keep them indoors in an air conditioned room if you can, which prevents the rust from forming.
Interesting. I bought a couple of small victorian seeding machines on ebay a few years ago. They were both the same design so I thought I would be able to make one good one from parts of both. When they arrived, they were solid with rust and stuck together. None of the parts could move, it was like a model of two machines. I made up a vinegar bath and soaked them for a whole week, then cleaned and oiled them and they were both able to be moved about and seperated. Eventually I made one good one from both then fabricated the missing bits on the second and ended up with two useable machines..Im amazed your tools were still alive after all that time.
The spring is made of a much denser spring steel than the other items. Try using Black Star rust converter next time. I would not put paint on a file ever.
I have used steel wool (brand new) and vinegar to make leather dye; the vinegar dissolves the metal to form what I believe is called ferric acid. This turns leather jet black (but sadly also breaks the fibers down over time). My point is that the vinegar doesn't just eat rust. It happily dissolves shinny new ferrous metal as well if you leave it long enough!
I've got an ongoing small scale experiment of iron in vimegar too. It's interesting that it changes phases over time and eventually ends up as a surprisingly green substance.
Different metals react differently to the vinegar. I once took some very heavily covered with rust cast iron cookware and put it in vinegar with amazing results. After 18 hours of soaking, I removed it to discover that the majority of the rust was gone. The little bit of rust that remained washed away from the pressure of the garden hose. It was amazingly fast, but 18 hours was too long as the vinegar ate at the raw iron too. I know this because after all the rust was gone, my hands and the water started to turn dark grey from handling the raw iron. Another time I tried soaking some caliper brackets from a vehicle in vinegar but the rust didn't come off. I thought they would have been cast iron, like the cookware, but they never came clean. Also, you can try Muriatic Acid for almost instant results, but do not get it on your skin, and do not breath the fumes. There is a violent reaction when the acid hits the rust, and you need to be VERY CAREFUL!
Muriatic acid is by definition, 20.5% hydrochloric acid. Soaking metals in hydrochloric acid will always destroy them. (Use muriatic for its intended purpose of acid washing and neutralizing caustic masonry). Fun fact: using muriatic with ferrous metals releases hydrogen gas (very flammable) - don’t use muriatic to destroy your tools.
In case your wondering, even really rusty steel or iron only needs a day in vinegar! After a few hours take a brush to the parts and put em back in. Really speeds up the process.
When the vinegar dissolves the ferrous oxide (rust) they combine to form Ferrous Acetate. Also known as Vinegar Black or Vinegaroon. It can be used to blacken wood or vegetable tanned leather (leather tanned using wood bark tannins) If used on wood it actually helps prevent rot from seawater. This is whybthe British used it to blacken the decks of their sailing ships hundreds of years ago.
I did the same thing with a rock hammer I found in the forest...put it in a vinegar bath and totally forgot about it. When I finally took it out and cleaned it up I was really impressed. It had pitting too, and was obviously beat up, but it looked good and was still plenty thick. I got it all cleaned up and restored and ready to go and I was so proud of myself, and the FIRST time I used it, it immediately snapped in half. I wonder if the vinegar did something to the metal on a micro-scale that made it brittle, or if it was something else that happened to the hammer to make it that way. The area I found it has a history of forest fires so that may have affected it too.
Great video. It may have been a good thing that "life got in the way" and you left the metal items in the vinegar for 19 months, lol. It definitely made the results interesting. It would have been cool if you did have some before pics of the exact items you worked on 19 months later but regardless the experiment is a hit. Well done.
Vinegar definitely works like a champ. I had a pair of extremely rusty pliers I use to remove hooks from fish (saltwater fishing). They were so rusty in fact I could no longer open them. I soaked them in straight vinegar for 10-12 hours and they are now 100% useable and most of the rust came off.
Presumably the entire time those tools were in the vinegar, atmospheric oxygen was percolating into the liquid and continuing to oxidize the metals. The acid prevented passivation of the surfaces (dry rust is actually somewhat protective of the underlying metal; but water is catalytic of rust and the acid was making the iron oxide into iron acetate). In other words, the acid bath aggressively promoted corrosion in the long term. It should be used only in the short term for rust removal.
I have found that a wire wheel on your bench grinder is very effective at not just removing rust, it also seems to give the metal a kind of rust proofing that lasts quite a long while. I'm not saying you can leave your tools out in the rain, but in normal use, the rust proofing lasts for many years. Maybe ask your metals guy why this might be so.
It’s due to the peening affect of the wire brush….it’s like thousands of tiny hammers having hit the metal, compressing the surface, leaving it harder and smoother, therefore preventing moisture entering the surface and developing into rust…I always use a rotary brush after cleaning objects with emery etc…especially threads…
the father of a friend made a discovery back in the 60s: rust is hourglass shaped in cross section. if you sand it down until it appears gone you just sanded down to the skinny part of the hourglass. what you saw on those allen wrenches was the top of the hourglass.
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Jessica Neudigate Uh, honest question: Do you realize that I created the original video and the follow up video? The follow up is meant to be helpful and answers many of the questions frequently posed here.
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Andrew Reuter uh tbh I thought this was the king of random video.
Why is the view count so high?
Ok so longer than 5 minutes, but less than 19 months is optimal soaking time.
Lol, pretty much. And as we didn't get to see the state of the tools before submersion this video isn't really helpful.
@@alritedave No, we didn't...BUT, there's a lot of brown shit floating in the soak bucket. I feel I can take his word for it that they were pretty bad. Be good to know the optimal soak time though
Good one!
Lol
Why not boil the vinegar? Let soak 5-10 minutes then. Better yet if possible get a plastic bucket, make sure the items aren't aluminum and pour it in
Mix water and sodium hydroxide
"I got distracted and now it's 19 months later" - this is so goddamn relatable
Literally laughed out loud at this! 😆
I gotta say, he is the king procrastinator. My "I'll check it tomorrows" might go on for a few days or weeks...but damn near 2 years is impressive!
😂 Almost peed myself laughing at your comment. But you are right; I can relate to that as well as I realised Yesterday that I have two batches of wine that I started in August 2017 still in their fermentation vessels! Perhaps I can now use them to remove rust ...I wonder🤔
This is so true in most parts of my life. Lol
@@ypirnay hahahaha
The fact that you went and liked every comment in this section is impressive, good job
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the fact that you also checked, also impressive. nice
@Erica Heap < And the fact that you've replied to his like of the original comment is even more impressive. he-he
@@BillAnt is it
Dude, he planned this video to span 19 months! He's got patience. What's difficult in just liking some comments??
I heard rust is really good for removing vinegar
Too Much Tuna lol
AYYY LMAO
Too Much Tuna thats too much tuna you stupid bitch lol. love them skits
Too Much Tuna i heard that removing is really good for rust vinegar
Too Much Tuna i love you with pickles onions tomatoes egg and lettuce on toasted bread
you didn't leave it in vinegar long enough
Yeah, he didn’t leave them in the vinegar long enough👍
He looks between 18 years old and 48 years old
😆 Technically true...
I guess he was trying to say that you either look 18 or 48.
He looks like that one short dude from fallen kingdom
@Thanos Caar is a dead meme
I am a woman and I think in terms of how hot or interesting this guy is, I would go out with this guy. I probably would not go out with the actor you are talking about.
Yeah ok take care and have a good day
Literally have no idea why this was recommended to me. or why I'm watching it. but hey ho, i enjoy a little spontaneity as much as the next guy cleaning tools in his garage.
Like this style of video, straight to the point and doesn't waste too much time.
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As a 30+ year veteran of the iron/steel industry...I hope you chose a bronze/brass bristle brush for initial cleaning.
A common steel wire brush; as well as steel wool can induce ferrides in high alloy steels, causing new corrosion.
I once saw a $1000 stainless mixing tank from a photo lab completely ruined when steel wool was used to clean it.
Does your experience and knowledge allow you to suggest where to start in the removal of extensive rust from Spanish American War era swords? These are historical to my family so I would like not to ruin them in my efforts to restore them to some form of luster. Thanks!
Honestly, if me, I would have them professionally restored with a lazer rust removal process. Why gamble with anything else, when speaking of heirlooms?
lol, I like the sound of your brush at high speed
wmilberry Ha, thanks!
wmilberry SAME idk why lol
Gigitty
Sounds really dirty to me, no pun intended.
"Hey man! My tool is rusty as all hell. Could you sell me a new one ?" *seller* "sure dude. I'll repair it. 19 months sound alright?"
LOL
More like I’ll remove 70% of material from it
Over a period of 19 months, the oxygen in the air dissolves in the vinegar solution and continues to attack the metals. Meanwhile, the vinegar continues to remove the rust, which opens the way for new oxidation. The only reason for some of the tools to have survived is that it is a slow process.
does this mean that if you isolate a container with vinegar and rusty tools so that no air goes in or out, the result might be better?
@Flat Bastard Engineering Channel No it doesn't. Vinegar works just fine over night. But if you want to be a dumb fuck you do you.
@@edstar83 thanks man over night it is n not 19 months
@@daredevil3076 The guy I replied to deleted his comment so how do you know what we were talking about? Because I can't even remember what he said. but judging from my comment is was something rude that p*ssed me off.
Also my point was soaking over night does the job doesn't need 19 months. But you're welcome anyway.
Instructions not clear, ended up in Silent Hill.
Good luck man! Hope you brought your radio...
YO, where you at? We should totally meet up.
Art Vein you're here too? Sucks, don't it?
Art Vein Lmafao
michaelcthulu?
Thank you for going through this process and documenting it. You have confirmed what we've long known, which is; Acid eats rust chemically, so when left long enough, deep rust pockets (that are invisible to the naked eye) compromise the integrity of metal.
He has a video that took 18 months to make and he doesn't even push the video to 10 minutes, you sir have my subscription
Thanks Han! Sorry to hear about what happened with Ben on the bridge!
@@AndrewReuter abahahahhaaahahhahahahgaa
How the hell am I supposed to leave a car in a trash can of vinegar? Lmao
David Mezentsev or just fill a big bucket of vinegar and uninstall the part of a car such as the side skirt and after a few days take it out...
Just tape the acid to the car. Problemo solved
drive into swimmingfool ur car.
if you can't keep your car in a Can of vinegar then you can always keep vinegar in your Can car
Foxy And Bonnie SFM Studio what car has metal sideskirts? Lol
What am I doing with my life
Sometimes I leave something overnight and come back 18 months later
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Did you find twins?
I'm guilty...even longer
"Andrew, why does the garage smell like vinegar?"
"STAY OUT MY ROOM MOM!"
Andrew A you live in the garage?
ye
Tell Deedee to stay OUT OF MY ROOM!
Lmao Mickey
Andrew A stay out of my command centre mom 😂
Commercial store bought vinegar is a mix of water and vinegar acid. Yes, the acid attacks rust, but it attacks metal too. The best rust removal happens inside the first 2 hours. Anything after that allows the vinegar to begin attacking the metal too. [Actually it attacks the metal instantly, but without a magnifying glass you can''t see that with only a 2 or 3 hour soak.] Leave something in the vinegar overnight and you can be sure it will have tiny pit marks etched into it. Leave it in for months and I am surprised anything survived.
19 months? …………… Were you incarcerated?
labrd41 he will have to get a new file now
Nor Dic now We know why the files were so thin
He is married, listen carefully it was not 'life got in the way'.. it was 'wife got in the way'.. ha ha..
Dont you hate it when you get incarcerated and you suddenly remember you left your tools in venigar.
fourierrocket ......yeah that sucks lol
You should take some of those tools and mount them to some reclaimed wood and hang it in the shop. Nice job.
my question is why hasn't it evaporated in all this time?
This is a good question. I did have the container lightly sealed with Press and Seal for most of the time. But toward the end, the plastic didn't seal as well. Perhaps the dissolved iron slowed down the evaporation?
If anyone else has a good answer, I'd love to hear it.
well it is simple the vinegar became a saturated solution and that means that the vinegar did not have the capacity to hold more then x amount of rust and in turn could not continue dissolving the rest.
felix eriksson, it's not so much a matter of a saturated solution, rather that the acid in the vinegar was probably neutralised by all that iron oxide. Also that doesn't effect the evaporation time. He covered it.
MrGoatflakes hi
Vinegar is ethanoic acid (a.k.a acetic acid) solution not propanoic acid.
Life got in the way for over one and a half years?🤔😂
Crack lost a year.
thats another way of saying.. I totaly forgot about it
Yeah it happens
You must not have kids...
Yeah, right... are you sure that’s not just an excuse for procrastination?
Dude my ears thanks you. Best sounds I've ever heard.
Thanks!
Sofang Right on
Sofang - Same here, I kept rewinding to listen again. lol
Your profile picture was the same face I made hearing this.
what do you mean?
Something about the sounds of him working in fast forward is super satisfying idk if it's just me but damn
Holy Shit Mate!
After 19 months, the trash can looks like someone had too many Tacos at the party last night and was nowhere near the Toilet!
Issa Beganović I cant breathe
Disgusting lol
😂😂😂
Jackson Felkins clearly you can
The band queen
I'm actually very impressed.
Never thought i'd see you on these types of videos Xd
Barnacules Nerdgasm Thank you! Really enjoyed your thoroughly fact-checked iPhone history video!
Barnacules Nerdgasm Woah! I had just subscribed to you.
Barnacules Nerdgasm omg what the hell when you see a youtuber comment on a youtube O_O
Hey barnacules! Funny seeing you in the comments of a random video.
let me ask you something - when you move at super-speed, does everything around you slow down?
Yup, it's just like bullet time. Very handy when Matrix agents are chasing you. nofilmschool.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_wide/public/neo-matrix_stop-bullets.jpg
Yes
Depends if you took single or double dipped
11 AM: Just one more video before I go to sleep.
3 AM:
Who goes to sleep at 11 am?
Moopancake 999 r/whoosh
Lol.... 3:33 am amazing
03:11 am 😄
I didn't know Cody'sLab had a brother...
cody would've tried to refine precious metals out of them because there was a 0.0005% chance there was platinum in them. He would've gotten a bead 1/4 the size of a pinhead and called it a decent amount.
Obi Wan Cannoli a brother that doesn't have a neck
Obi Wan Cannoli I didn't know neistats brother was a scientist
swaneye34 Bill Nye works for fucking Disney to brainwash kids with his stupid scripted fake ass knowledge. He isn't even a real fucking scientist. He's just a god damn good actor.
"[Bill Nye] isn't even a real fucking scientist. He's just a god damn good actor."
Since when are degrees in mechanical engineering not considered a part of the sciences? Since Conservative networks and big-oil started attacking him for not being a climate-change denier?
you look like a young Quentin Tarantino
Aroyyo Toad ua-cam.com/video/iMJUDyiruGA/v-deo.html&t=7m43s
aye man thank you for that link it made my day, also i wasnt ragging on you i just want you to know, i wasnt being a dick lol
Aroyyo Toad agree so hard with this
Aroyyo Toad 3:30 made me have to pee lol
Aroyyo Toad oo
Oh, for God's sake... Leave the tools in vinegar overnight (ONE night), rinse, scrub. If there's any rust left (which is unusual), try a second night. I don't know why people think "the longer, the better!" Your experiment shows exactly why you shouldn't do that -- vinegar is an ACID and will eat away at more than just rust, given enough time! One day, folks, is plenty for the vast majority of rust problems!!!
Checking in once a day seems like a good rule of thumb, thanks for sharing. However, I just finished restoring a rusty bench grinder. I treated it for five(ish) days with vinegar, followed by wire wheel, followed by three weeks in molasses, and there was STILL rust on it when I finally decided to just spray it with rust converting spray paint. The duration needed really seems to vary.
Wow... That must have been some really tough rust! Perhaps the composition of the steel has an effect on how quickly the rust comes off??? I've, literally, never had to soak more than 2 days! I stand corrected!
For me the electro trick still works best. Just push some 12v trough it for a day and it is clean as a whistle.
He said he forgot about it because life happened. Hasn't something like that ever happened to you? It has to me!
i love the high speed scrubbing
The magic of video... if I could just speed up my ex-wife finish her rants that fast... ahhhh
Idk why this doesn't have 100k views. Love stuff like this. Thanks man.
+Bizkidjordan Ha! Only 96k more views to go... Thank you!
Andrew Reuter i have a few rusty cresent wrenches and a bunch of and small bits for my drill... someone borrowed my stuff left outside in rain... and yeah not good at all
Andrew Reuter Now only a few thousand more and you have 100k!Good job man!
Holy crap. Dude congrats that was a month lol!
Ha, wow! Wasn't expecting that. Thanks guys!
For light rust, a day in a bucket of apple cider vinegar should do it... for medium rust... about 2 days in vinegar does it for me... maybe up to 4.. for heavy, like a week.
If you're leaving anything in for 19 months, it's likely there won't be much left there when you remove it if it was that much rusted.
The main key you need to know is, when you remove it, don't wash the item, or blow dry it... water and heat will start rust back immediately. Instead, wipe it with a somewhat clean rag dry, then brush on with a paint brush phosphoric acid and let it sit. Before the phosphoric acid gets super sticky and dries, wipe it off. This will stop any further rust from forming.
If you got really tough rust pits that won't come out, alternate between soaking it in apple cidar vinegar and phosphoric acid, back and forth, and scrub it with a wire brush in between... while going back and forth between these you can run the piece under a tap as you scrub the rust loose like it was mud... just as soon as you are done go back into the other chemical for more derusting.
If you are short on time and want to derust something as fast as possible chemically, and it's a small part, go straight into phosophoric acid. Great for small parts that can go in a mason jar or big pickle jar. If it's a bigger part, paint it with phosphoric acid with a brush and wrap in plastic, and uncover and keep repainting it periodically to keep it in wet with phosphoric acid.
Apple Cider Viengar from Walmart or the grocery store by the gallon is cheapest... followed by white vinegar which doesn't smell so bad. Lemon juice works too and smells nice but is quite expensive.
Good summary here, thanks for sharing! Lots of folks seem to think flash rust isn’t real, so I’m glad to see another endorsement of phosphoric acid. 👍
The Prep & Etch was all you needed to derust your tools
John Donahue Probably true, though I suspect it's less forgiving than relatively mild vinegar. What kind of results vs. amount time soaking have you seen with Prep and Etch?
The Prep & Etch is basically phosphoric acid which unlike other rust removal acids, doesn't disolve steel, only the iron oxide.
He has a real talent it's amazing how he scrubs those tools so fast
Bahaha
Care must be taken when using vinegar to remove rust from items that are/ were chrome or zinc plated. If left a day or so the vinegar will remove the zinc/ chrome plating. The problem is that there are carcinogenic elements used in both chroming and zinc plating and these will now be floating around in the vinegar/ rust soup. The most dangerous is the gold coloured plating with the slight rainbow/ oil-slick effect on the surface. This is called hexavalent chromate and it is highly carcinogenic to the point that it was banned in many countries. So, extreme care needs to be taken when disposing of the used vinegar and anything it has come in touch with it.
Why is it dangerous
How would one go about dumping such a soup?
So just to confirm. Are you saying that leaving the tools in vinegar for that long does not damage the steel? For example, the box wrench that is now a pry bar, is that because the rust was so bad or because of 19mo in vinegar?
Chris Lawrence: Good question! For the "pry bar," I'm guessing that that end of the wrench was submerged in the 1" or so of rusty muck at the bottom of the trash can. Being surrounded by all that gunk probably sped up the oxidation process there. (As far as I know, complete tools could have been dissolved down there. I didn't keep track of what I put into the can at the beginning of the experiment. Wasn't supposed to last this long...)
So yeah, the 19-month exposure did damage the metal, but most of that was limited to the surfaces of the tools, like with the open end of the wrench. The pitting in the impact sockets were likely hidden rust pockets, though.
Andrew, thank you so much for the clarification. I am going to post this video on the "blacksmith for beginners" Facebook pag
+Chris Lawrence You're welcome! Thanks for the share. Means a lot!
i don t think it dissolveses because that small spring surrvived......and looks too me it dida great job,did some derusting myself with phosphoric acid but it is expensive and fast,this oe is cheap and slow but i love the outcome.
Fe(s) + 2 H2O(l) ⇌ Fe(OH)2(s) + H2(g)
Fe(OH)2(s) + 2CH3CO2H(l) ⇌ Fe(CH3CO2H)2(aq)
Or something along those lines.
What I mean, iron keeps rusting inside the vinegar, in fact it does it even faster now that it has vinegar disolving the "protective" oxide that covers the metal.
So yes, vinegar damages the steel, as it oxidates faster inside it.
If you suspend the tools in vinegar so they aren't swimming in their own oxides, you should see minimal corrosion, as the acid has affinity for the oxides a lot more than the metal itself. Other acids can be better or worse as far as this affinity goes, oxalic acid for instance is even better than vinegar.
you sound smart - while isle is the oxalic acid in?
It's used as wood bleach, to remove black stains from water penetration. That might get you in the right aisle to start checking ingredients. Not sure since I buy it online.
Oh, it causes cancer, so you know its the good stuff.
I've used vinegar to clean out an old metal fuel tank, worked perfectly. Better than what I had ever thought it would. That fuel tank is still in use today and no issues with rust ever since. Although I did have to replace the small inline fuel filter numerous times until it was totally clean.
Just a little bit of first hand experience with something that used to be a "throw away" item if it had rust inside of it!
Cheers.
I got rust between the spring spirals on my motorcycle suspension, will vinegar work?
@@NowLedgeOutpost It eats rust for breakfast mate. I cleaned out a rusted out old metal fuel tank with vinegar, try that out too!
@@AusLanderJack i can't take the suspension apart, got any tips?
@@NowLedgeOutpost Nope, hard to suggest anything without seeing it, but a shallow dish/tote/tub with vinegar in it and rotate the part in that (gradually) might be the way to go, but again, that is dependent on the actual part itself and your call. It will take much longer that way. Some parts you must use a softer scrubbing brush, on the ones that are chunky steel, you can even bravely attempt a wire brush. But the vinegar WILL eat into the rust, not the steel,
@@AusLanderJack you seem like a reasonable and helping individual. As far as showing goes, give me any of your socials where I could send you the photo of that thing, alright?
somehow this video showed up on my suggested videos, very cool accidental experiment. Also really liked the florescent bulb buzz in the final shot, really excellent touch for cinematic effect.
Pete Askme Thanks!
I never knew I'd be so satisfied at the sound of sped up footage of a person using a brush. its so nice wtf 😂
Never taken really tanken interested in tools in my 19 years but I'm finding myself drawn to these type of videos lately joesperg especially
I remember going into the hardware store as a kid and being bored out of my mind. Now I could spend hours there. Welcome to the fold! 😆
I tryed it ones and forgot it. 5 years later I see this video, and I remembert it.
Are the tools still in the vinegar??? :)
Andrew Reuter No...
THE VINEGAR EVAPORATET!!!!!
.....who leaves tools in vinegar for a year and 7 montns?
I do all the time.
I could ask the same to people who leave wine in a barrel for centuries.
Ur really good at math, impressive
Alex Kolle Whats a mnouth?
Whoever the fuck want to fool....wtf are you...vinegar police? Aaaaass
I used this method on my tailgate parts for my classic truck. Its an excellent option for restoring parts you can't buy new anymore.
They got so clean...they disappeared.
I love how this guy's "creator loves this comment" mark is on a majority of these comments, it shows that this guy pays attention to what his audience is saying. good video!
Thank you!
High quality video, quick and to the point commentary, along with stunningly good camera work. All around, this video is one of the most well put together demonstrations I've ever seen on youtube, not even mentioning the amount of "prep" that went into the actual vinegar soak.
Props to you m8, great stuff.
Guess it's useful for something else instead of flavoring roasted fish
Vinegar is not useful for flavoring roasted fish sorry
Its good for tidying up vaginas as well.
koglowa its good as a dip, mixed with lime thai chilis and soy sauce.
uwais qarani do.... Do you not understand how enemas work????? Ok so when a guy or gal and a douche have a very intimate relationship, they put the anal douche up their ass after filling that douche with water, or in this case vinegar, they pump their ass full of water, and then they wait a bit, and go to the toilet, and then all their shit comes out in a lumpy soup.
Vinegar username checks out
Clear coating your files ya good luck with that
Not so smart aren't ya.
Everything in the bucket is destroyed and unusable.
Files could still be used (maybe) all depends on the teeth. I don't think this guy was looking to use any of these after this anyways.
He did say he expected that none of the tools would be usable. You ought to pay more attention so you sound smarter than your comment.
Impressive lexicon.. yeah you better google it.
The fact that he PROBABLY doesn't intend to use the files doesn't mean it's any less a bad idea to show clear coating them on the Internet. The poor things have enough abuse to deal with as it is, what with everyone storing them all banged up against each other, never carding them, etc.
Not supposed to leave it in there that long, but it's a good experiment.
greenspiraldragon use an aquarium air pump and bubble air through it maybe 3 days if you heat it less than 1 day
i mean, it probably wasn't the vinegar to cause damage, all the material that is now missing, was just rust, not the original metal anymore.
He explained why he did but hey you do whatever makes you feel superior
@@roelvian that's not how that works though. The vinegar will absolutely eat away at the metal itself. I often use vinegar to remove scale from the pieces that I have smithed, if I forget a keyring for a few extra days it absolutely will corrode the metal, not just the scale.
Idk why but as soon as I clicked on this vid I felt bad because this guy has 1k subs and deserves way more than what he has.And he probably put around a day or two to make this video so I don't understand why he gets hate. I mean he looks like a nice guy:)
Thank you for the kind words!
why not waait 20 mounths for a better title
Thought about it, but it was November, it was already cold in the garage, and the temperature was on track to plummet even further. And I wanted to take care of that tub of horror before it got tipped over. :|
Because only 17 mouths were needed to consume the metal...
I had a pair of needle nose pliers that were lightly rusted. I soaked them in vinegar for a couple of hours, then used a scrub brush on them, and oiled them, and they look like new. Best thing for tools is to keep them indoors in an air conditioned room if you can, which prevents the rust from forming.
you should try this again with coke
He should try coke.
he should do coke
I didn't like coke, I got the ice cubes stuck in my nose.
CastielVII becomes a drug abuse science test
I didn't like tools, the coke got stuck in the vinegar
ah a good derusting to your murder equipment.
this is a joke.
We know m8
no its not
Thanks for clarifying! Never would've guessed...
Inquisitor Fellguard
I went to my local DIY superstore but couldn't find the 'murder equipment' aisle and didn't like to ask 😲
You are hilarious!!!!!??
The sound of the wire brush being sped up is really satisfying.
very interesting, nice presentation, and editing
TRASHURE 111th like.
The little spring that could.
Really enjoyed the fast motion sections to scoot thru the boring parts. Innovative! Millions of other bloggers need to take a clue...
😊 Thank you very much!
Interesting. I bought a couple of small victorian seeding machines on ebay a few years ago. They were both the same design so I thought I would be able to make one good one from parts of both. When they arrived, they were solid with rust and stuck together. None of the parts could move, it was like a model of two machines. I made up a vinegar bath and soaked them for a whole week, then cleaned and oiled them and they were both able to be moved about and seperated. Eventually I made one good one from both then fabricated the missing bits on the second and ended up with two useable machines..Im amazed your tools were still alive after all that time.
That is awesome! Love the determination and ingenuity to keep those old machines going.
The spring is made of a much denser spring steel than the other items. Try using Black Star rust converter next time. I would not put paint on a file ever.
I have used steel wool (brand new) and vinegar to make leather dye; the vinegar dissolves the metal to form what I believe is called ferric acid. This turns leather jet black (but sadly also breaks the fibers down over time). My point is that the vinegar doesn't just eat rust. It happily dissolves shinny new ferrous metal as well if you leave it long enough!
Very cool!
Quentin Tarantino had a UA-cam channel?
I've got an ongoing small scale experiment of iron in vimegar too. It's interesting that it changes phases over time and eventually ends up as a surprisingly green substance.
Vimegar wil do that.
The sound of you scrubbing the tools in fast motion, absolutely cool!
😊 Thanks!
i love how you speed some parts up!
Different metals react differently to the vinegar. I once took some very heavily covered with rust cast iron cookware and put it in vinegar with amazing results. After 18 hours of soaking, I removed it to discover that the majority of the rust was gone. The little bit of rust that remained washed away from the pressure of the garden hose. It was amazingly fast, but 18 hours was too long as the vinegar ate at the raw iron too. I know this because after all the rust was gone, my hands and the water started to turn dark grey from handling the raw iron. Another time I tried soaking some caliper brackets from a vehicle in vinegar but the rust didn't come off. I thought they would have been cast iron, like the cookware, but they never came clean. Also, you can try Muriatic Acid for almost instant results, but do not get it on your skin, and do not breath the fumes. There is a violent reaction when the acid hits the rust, and you need to be VERY CAREFUL!
Good to know!
Muriatic acid is by definition, 20.5% hydrochloric acid. Soaking metals in hydrochloric acid will always destroy them. (Use muriatic for its intended purpose of acid washing and neutralizing caustic masonry). Fun fact: using muriatic with ferrous metals releases hydrogen gas (very flammable) - don’t use muriatic to destroy your tools.
In case your wondering, even really rusty steel or iron only needs a day in vinegar! After a few hours take a brush to the parts and put em back in. Really speeds up the process.
Andrew: I'm gonna neutralize the vinegar in baking soda
Me: AUDIBLE CONFUSION
How do you move so fast !!
lol
He has powers
MR,PINCER & FRIENDS well, it was soaking in vinegar for over a year so all he has to do is scrub it and show the results.
largol33t1 it was a time lapse
he's drawing from the speed force
When the vinegar dissolves the ferrous oxide (rust) they combine to form Ferrous Acetate.
Also known as Vinegar Black or Vinegaroon.
It can be used to blacken wood or vegetable tanned leather (leather tanned using wood bark tannins)
If used on wood it actually helps prevent rot from seawater.
This is whybthe British used it to blacken the decks of their sailing ships hundreds of years ago.
Very interesting, didn’t know that. Thanks!
3:40 plot twist: 30 minutes later is actually another 19 months
Are you sure that isn't triceratops poop from Jurassic Park?
Christopher Tomkinson Hmmmm. There is lots of strange roaring coming from the garage at night. Can't rule it out.
that might be me sorry I'm a dragon pretty much
"That's a big pile of shit" -Jurassic park
I did the same thing with a rock hammer I found in the forest...put it in a vinegar bath and totally forgot about it. When I finally took it out and cleaned it up I was really impressed. It had pitting too, and was obviously beat up, but it looked good and was still plenty thick. I got it all cleaned up and restored and ready to go and I was so proud of myself, and the FIRST time I used it, it immediately snapped in half. I wonder if the vinegar did something to the metal on a micro-scale that made it brittle, or if it was something else that happened to the hammer to make it that way. The area I found it has a history of forest fires so that may have affected it too.
Whoa, that’s crazy! I’ll have to try banging these wrenches on something sometime for a similar test. Thanks for sharing!
this has a special quality of humor in my eyes,gets my ''up thumb
dem strange Thank you!
Did Quentin Tarantino and Kevin Spacey have a kid together?
Very interesting. Thank you for taking the time to both do the experiment and upload the video. Thoroughly enjoyable.
Thank you!
Great video. It may have been a good thing that "life got in the way" and you left the metal items in the vinegar for 19 months, lol. It definitely made the results interesting. It would have been cool if you did have some before pics of the exact items you worked on 19 months later but regardless the experiment is a hit. Well done.
Thanks for the kind words! I did eventually find a photo of the original tools though: ua-cam.com/video/iMJUDyiruGA/v-deo.htmlm43s
The sounds in this video were pretty cool sounding.
you are a magical man, you are both 20 and 40 years old at the same time, very impressive
This makes it very tough for clerks at liquor stores! 😆
if nothing else, you got some good steel out of it
I clean all my old tools with vinegar, and I’ve always wanted to try this, see what happens if I were to leave something in there for months
Vinegar definitely works like a champ. I had a pair of extremely rusty pliers I use to remove hooks from fish (saltwater fishing). They were so rusty in fact I could no longer open them. I soaked them in straight vinegar for 10-12 hours and they are now 100% useable and most of the rust came off.
1:30 as soon as I saw the brown sludge, I thought of Resident Evil 7, don't know why though? 😂
Nuclos holy fuck same here I was about to comment that just now
Nuclos looks like Marguerite's cooking LOL
Nuclos or silent hill!!!
Waiting for something to come out and grab his hand lol
@nuclos Maybe because RE7 sucked? lol
"Life got in the way and now it's 19 months later"
#relatable
Presumably the entire time those tools were in the vinegar, atmospheric oxygen was percolating into the liquid and continuing to oxidize the metals. The acid prevented passivation of the surfaces (dry rust is actually somewhat protective of the underlying metal; but water is catalytic of rust and the acid was making the iron oxide into iron acetate).
In other words, the acid bath aggressively promoted corrosion in the long term. It should be used only in the short term for rust removal.
Good explanation!
Vinegar can't stop me!
YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!
The sludge looks a lot like 3 week old smoothie. Don't ask.
I have found that a wire wheel on your bench grinder is very effective at not just removing rust, it also seems to give the metal a kind of rust proofing that lasts quite a long while. I'm not saying you can leave your tools out in the rain, but in normal use, the rust proofing lasts for many years.
Maybe ask your metals guy why this might be so.
Interesting! I’ll definitely ask about that!
It’s due to the peening affect of the wire brush….it’s like thousands of tiny hammers having hit the metal, compressing the surface, leaving it harder and smoother, therefore preventing moisture entering the surface and developing into rust…I always use a rotary brush after cleaning objects with emery etc…especially threads…
@@johnhall8455 Interesting! Fact, or hypothesis?
Useful but I would have liked to have seen the rusty tools prior to soaking just for a before and after comparison.
I didn't think I had a photo of the original tools. But I found one! ua-cam.com/video/iMJUDyiruGA/v-deo.htmlm43s
When he zoomed into the bin I thought it was the trash compactor from A New Hope😂
Andrew, you cleaning tools super fast was exactly what I needed today.
Glad to hear it! 😊
Your digilence of idereating the preservation for these $10 tools disturbs me
Thanks? 😆👍
@@AndrewReuter 😂🏆
I drink a liter of pure vinegar everyday to keep the rust away!
_Trust me, it _*_definitely_*_ helps, no rust at all!_
Don't forget the bath, too! A mere 19 month soak is guaranteed to help you lose weight!
the father of a friend made a discovery back in the 60s: rust is hourglass shaped in cross section. if you sand it down until it appears gone you just sanded down to the skinny part of the hourglass. what you saw on those allen wrenches was the top of the hourglass.
Very cool! Good to know!