17-Year-Old Offers Unsettling Confession After Killing Sister and Mother | Jake Evans Case Analysis
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Interesting that Jake waited until his father was out of town. Might suggest cowardice or maybe that he wanted to hurt his father by leaving him alive and taking away his wife and possibly favorite child. I’m not diagnosing anyone, just speculating on what could be happening in a case like this one. 😊
Probably just hated females.
underrated comment 🤣😌
I hadn't thought of the possibility that he killed his mother and sister to punish his father. What a coldly dreadful thought.
@@DaisyLee1963 yeah gotta do mental gymnastics to ignore the fact that he was sparing his father 🤡
Jake might have realized at some level that his father could stop him. He did not fear his sisters or mom or grandparents.
The 911 operator was able to keep him on the phone and was wise to take the opportunity to ask questions that gave us an insight in Jake’s mind. Bravo to that individual.
The insight being he's not dangerous any more? The cops took 25 minutes to get there. Plus he was a Chatty Cathy that never shut up so...
I think she was trying to keep him on the phone until the police showed up.
I don't know why people denigrate 911 operators so much. Their jobs are extremely hard and they have to come up with questions on the fly for situations like this. There is no training for the calls of such a shocking nature and it is hard to keep someone on the phone for that long.
Agree! It was great she kept him on the phone. She documented his confession
@@TruFlyFox Most courses within the dispatcher/operator training program will often include the following:
Basic Telecommunications.
Advanced First Aid/CPR/AED.
Critical Incident Stress.
Hazardous Materials.
Terrorism.
Suicide Intervention.
Emergency Medical Dispatch.
Domestic Violence.
If he thinks people are rude and racist outside of prison, imagine how he felt when he got there.
He probably made that up to justify killing his sister.
Where minority is majority and bads are worse
This is so creepy. He should never get out of prison because he is really dangerous to everyone. If someone can kill their own mom and sister, then the rest of society doesn't stand a chance. I understand his actions, he was incapable of empathy, and he was full of rage. He is dangerous and he always will be.
and you’re totally qualified to make that decision right?
@@poindextertunesyes, and I am, too. 👍🇺🇲
So he doesn't like racism, he's going to understand what real racism is when he's locked up in prison when black inmates sexually assault him
The thing is, he wasn't filled with rage. He's a psychopath, he thought it would be a worthwhile experience. He was very concerned with how he felt about it afterwards and the consequences to himself, but had no interest in his victims. When he is released he will probably not kill again unless he thinks the thrill of killing is worth a life sentence. In either case he will enjoy the attention from his family and feelings sorry for himself.
One of the craziest aspects is that his sister thought he was joking when he aimed the gun at her.
It shows that she, and likely no one in their family, had any idea what kind of a person Jake actually was.
She clearly loved her brother and believed she had a close and trusting relationship with him, without realizing he was a psychopath just pretending to be normal until he could make his move.
Most likely, the parents knew something was seriously off. Usually siblings lack the maturity and worldly knowledge to understand.
Poor Mallory. She must have really loved her brother. I did everything to avoid my brother at that age. I would have never voluntarily asked him to spend time with me like that. Poor baby.
She was being homeschooled so was probably lonely. :(
@@yarnpowerit's kind of a misconception that that all homeschoolers are socially isolated. There are a lot of extracurricular activities that many homeschoolers participate in. Additionally, many "homeschoolers" take classes a few days a week. Nearly every homeschooler I know, including myself, had activities with other (non-sibling) kids almost every day of the week.
@@yarnpowerto clarify, I realize that homeschooling can be used to isolate your kids, but I think that this contingent is in the minority. Most people homeschool to provide their children a more personalized education.
In all fairness, your brother is a lactose intolerant cheddar addict who's constantly farting.
Why would you avoid your brother? Asking as an only child, I don't know what it is with sibling relationships and not wanting to be close.
I hadn't heard about Jake's claims that his sister had said racist things before, but when you mentioned it, I also thought that that must've been Jake painting his sister (and other family) as horrible people to make himself feel better and/or make people side with him. How convenient of him to point out that he argued with his sister about that, also painting himself as the "good" person who stands up against racism. Like a "yeah I killed my mom and sister, but at least I'm not a racist" type deal. Okay, dude, real impressive. Do you want a cookie or something? You just ruined your family (who loved you) for no good reason...
Rest in peace, Jamie and Mallory, and I hope the remaining family has been able to find some sort of peace. Lastly, here's hoping Jake never gets out.
One thing about leftists or "liberals" as they're known is that they tend to be sociopathic.
I agree with you. Jake should remain in prison and die in prison. The race card does not fly here. His relatives had the right to their feelings, otherwise everyone would be killed for not feeling like their neighbor. Besides that, the relatives he killed are not alive to deny his allegations and that is his fault. BTW, I am a Black person. Shame on Jake for using racism to mitigate his crime.
There are people I call "victim-bullies" because they cry wolf in order to get someone to come to their defense so they can watch a fight or whatever.
I believe that racist dialogue with his sister is a pure fiction on his part. He's the cold blooded killer here, and he's just trying to do some victim blaming to somehow justify his horrible actions. It's very convenient for him to just claim whatever he wants about his sister now, there os bo proof, she can not dispute, she's dead.
@@claire2.097 Maybe I wasn't too clear on it in my original comment, but yeah, I think he made it up too. Just another way for him to disrespect his victims, most likely.
Ugh, I feel so sad for Jamie and Mallory (and the surviving family too, of course). They deserved a better son and brother than Jake turned out to be.
The police showed up...25 minutes LATER??? Wow.
the cops were lucky the operator kept the killer occupied
Ikr? Much quicker than average.
Another reason to be pro 2A
@cindyl3297 100%.
I don't carry and I'm im real estate. I'm 4'11, 100lbs. I do worry and ponder on whether I should carry or not. I'm just afraid of a freak accident.
He could have killed the whole neighbourhood
She was so innocent she just wanted to watch a movie with him its crazy how easy it is to forget about how somebody else feels because of how you feel..
Jake went back and shot his sister and mother again! To make sure they were dead. No conscience. Evil.
I think that is the only part of this horrendous ordeal where he showed that he still had some conscience. He decided not to hurt his sister and shot her again to take her out of her misery. (I am assuming after being shot in the back and in the head she was pretty far gone. Ditto for the mother.)
He said he could have killed anyone, but the fact is, he didn't. He mentioned more than once that his sister and mother had hurt him, maybe bullied him, seems they insulted him. This was not random. I would guess he was pretty passive and they actually were pretty mean to him and he had no outlet for his emotions and no one to talk to about it -- for many years. Not to condone his actions, but just to understand what caused this horrific crime -- it seems to me that his resentment and anger just bottled up and one day exploded. He had probably thought about killing them for years -- every time they belittled him. When the sister made a racist comment, it just verified to him that she was not a good person and really deserved to die.
The fact that he said he was not going to kill again and that it was really messed up, makes me think that he DID regret it -- almost immediately. I think he had fantasized that "getting even" would give him a big sense of relief and satisfaction, even worth going to prison for -- but after killing them, he realized that did not happen. I think he DID feel remorse or maybe disgust or shame -- whatever he felt, it was not what he thought he would feel. He may not know himself since he is so bad at expressing his emotions and processing them in a healthy way.
The word evil represents a profound ignorance encouraged by the church meant to polarize and judge others based on how different they were. For ex: evil witches publicly burned were just different enough to cost them their lives, and were rebellious, headstrong women but not evil.
"Confirming the kill" has many purposes but one is to end suffering, which he stated. A conscience? Maybe your empathy is limited to "good people".
@BariumCobaltNitrog3n He shot his sister and mother. Why would anyone have empathy for a premeditated murderer? 'Ending the suffering' of someone you caused suffering to because you shot them is not an action worthy of empathy or admiration. You sound like a psychopath, which is evidently what you are.
@@BariumCobaltNitrog3n Nope, evil is a real thing that exists within certain people.
@@BariumCobaltNitrog3n Despite being religious I agree. It seems as though they view anything "sinful" as simply what the unknown is. I have an extremely religious aunt that told anyone who would listen that pot was an extremely bad drug before it was legalized and 5 years later she's a regular pot smoker who tells people the benefits, lol! I think sin today is a far-cry from what was originally intended when the term was 1st coined. I prefer the philosophical definition of evil that I learned in university, which is that anything evil is simply the "absence of good." I think this is a much better term, as within this context, anyone and everyone can do evil and be evil.
This case now has me wondering just how many people there are in the world who sit on the fence about committing such evil acts like Jake Evans but decide against it for whatever reason. It’s a truly harrowing thought.
That is a scary thought. I wonder how many people have thought seriously about killing me but didn't.
@@philochristos Hopefully (and probably), none. I would like to think that the amount of people in the world who sincerely think this way are far and few. But it’s somewhat unsettling that you can never know for certain unless they choose to follow through with their psychopathic thoughts.
@@jamaaldavis6243 If you watch too many true crime videos on UA-cam you can't help but wonder who in your family is most likely to kill you. It's almost always a family member.
I would venture to say most don’t do it because they don’t want to sit in a steel box for a significant portion of their life.
If their level of psychopathy is high enough they'll eventually do it, but it can also be argued that without a significant trigger event they may never quite go over the edge.
WILD that this man has a chance at freedom one day and the opportunity to commit another unimaginably heinous act.
@@robert5697What cultures would you hold up as models?
You must be naive if you think that he will commit something like that again.Prison isnt exactly the most comfortable place as its boring.He will definitely regret it soon
Okay Joe Rogan 😂
Tbh I doubt he'll kill his mother again
@@yomammasaurusrex9571 what if he goes to an alternate universe?
He should never be let out of prison. His personality says he will do something again when he gets out.
He should not have any chance of parole! It’s absolutely ridiculous!
The aspect I find most interesting about this case is how Jake deliberately prepared himself psychologically to commit these murders.
He wanted to kill, but in order to work himself into it he watched Michael Myers and focused on the character's lack of guilt and remorse. Then he prepared himself to kill his sister by thinking only on the things she had done that had made him angry.
The movie and his sister's moments of sibling cruelty and other objectionable actions did not make Jake kill. Jake made Jake kill, and purposely chose to work himself into doing the deeds.
It's also interesting that he immediately called the police on himself and confessed.
I really don't like the idea that people like Jake will ever be freed from prison, because I don't trust that any rehab can reliably reform such a psychology. Also, after having spent decades in prison from such a young age, how will he be ready to live harmlessly in a word of normal people and cope with the normal stresses of work and human interaction? I can't see that working out well for the people around him.
I wonder why ha wasn't given a life sentence without parole?
I think his lenient sentence was because he was a minor, pretty sure the doc said he was 17
@@michaelroot682 Yes. I understood that.
I wasn't quite accurate with my question. What I'm wondering is whether that's a good and wise reason to free him.
I understand that teenagers' brains are not fully developed and normal kids do some impulsive, stupid stuff. But what this young man did was so horrific and extreme, and he so deliberately planned and prepared his mind for the deed, I wonder if there's any coming back from that? Especially after spending almost a lifetime in prison with other criminals from such a young age and not having experience with adult responsibility for oneself, out in the world.
Maybe he can come back from all that, but I'm wondering and skeptical.
Totally agree.
I can't understand why we as a society are forever going out of our way to be fair to psycho-killers, mass murderers, and other deviants. A guy slaughters everybody in his English class and it's like the worst thing we can do is be unfair or not consider his terrible upbringing or all the excuses he might have.
In the Netherlands he would probably spend about the same time in prison (perhaps a bit less in view of his age), but after release he would most likely remain locked up in a psychiatric institution until declared cured (which might be never). Is there such a thing in the US?
The judge only sentencing him to about 10 years a murder if he’s paroled on time seems unbelievable to me. Yes he cooperated and plead guilty but that should not negate his prison sentence to this degree in my opinion. As Dr G said he knew right from wrong and did this purely out of curiosity to see how it would feel. Just my opinion but this murderer should of received life with no chance of parole
Thing is, a lot of the bigger district courts have been ruling "life without parole" for people under 21 unconstitutional. So even though calculated murderers like Nathaniel Fujita got life without parole at 18, they're eligible for parole after 20 to 30 years in MA anyway.
Regardless, Evans should have got a stiffer sentence (like minimum 40 without parole). And it might be foolhardy of me but I take comfort in "eligible" doesn't mean "freedom" (i.e. if judges still think he's a risk after reviewing his case, he won't be let out.)
He said it was the most horrifying thing (killing his family) that he had ever experienced. I wonder if he has ever stopped to think about how horrifying it was for his victims.
Put Jake on a Ants Nest.. ......
At this point , who cares what this demon thinks or says. May he burn in Hell.
Yeah and when Dr. Grande touched on Jake's rant about bullies I thought to myself "You are a thrill-seeking psychopathic murderer! That's literally the ultimate kind of bully!" What a sick puppy. God help anyone that encounters this bastard when he leaves prison.
Have you ever thought that's why he did it? Because he know's exactly how it feels. Something I hope you never feel is his wrath and scorn along side those other horrifying feelings.
@@NamesZKPPipe down psychopath. That comment is twisted.
All that psyching up he had to do before the killings, and the horror he experienced and mentioned afterward, almost suggests morality. It’s beyond disturbing that people can just go rogue like this.
It’s frustrating not understanding people like this and their reasonings. But ultimately it’s a good thing we can’t comprehend it.
I honestly think this is a true case of a psychotic break.
@@wren180 It crazy, a couple of years ago a boy in Mass stabbed his mom a bunch of times and then went to the movies. Very well to do family. The think it was a psychotic break but this guy doesn't sound like a break because of the movie he watched.
This is because people are on a spectrum. He had some minor feelings of morality and shame but his dark side was much stronger and eventually won.
@@inrptnHe wanted his dark side to win. He pushed his morality aside and explained how he was able to do it.
How do you do this? You put out so much content(not short content) they are so detailed and even though some are about sad things your humor and jokes make things less heavy hearted. Thanks Dr. Grande for giving us such great content!!
A good portion is reading the case report.
He's the BEST!
@@Ken-fh4jcthat's why I said how do I do this. He puts out so much content and has to read tons of stuff and do his analysis tape and edit..he puts videos out like daily.
@@sarabrant723a lot of UA-camrs batch film in advance. So they will set a certain couple days in the week for researching the topic, a couple days putting together a script, and then will batch film a bunch of videos on one day with some breaks in between. This allows them to schedule videos to be put out on a daily to weekly basis without actually needing to film and do the most stressful stuff daily. He may also outsource his editing, but his format probably doesn't require much editing. That's been what I've seen works best from the creators I know and follow. This allows them to take days off when needed and keep a schedule, much like a regular work week. He probably thinks of it as a second or main job so he can put that effort in because he gets paid from views, Patreon, and sponsors. This allows him to take more time from a 9-5 or regular career schedule at an office. If I had to guess, this is similar to the way he films.
It's true each of these requires a good deal of research and that is impressive.
I hope Jake is never let out! Thank you Dr. Grande for another thoughtful video!
He will definitely get out. He was not convicted for life. He will be out in twenty years and you can bet we will have another serial killer on our hands.
@@Mari-go5hc He'll be almost 60 so recidivism risk will be fairly low for murder. Wouldn't leave him alone with young kids or anything, though.
Or adults 🙄
@@ampa4989He could be out in 20 so he wouldn't even be 40yrs old if he makes parole.
That's crazy how your own family flesh and blood could plot to kill you 😭
It's downright scary
Cain and Abel
Every murderer in human history has relatives. Thinking it couldn't possibly happen to you is often a fatal misapprehension.
And they presumably had no idea he was plotting these murders. Terrifying.
@@celeca7 How did you come to that conclusion? This is not your average family.
The methodical planning and internal dialogue justifying his actions is quite frightening. The sadism is strong with this one. Thanks for the analysis, Dr Grande!
what "creates" a sadist, I wonder? as in, where does it begin, emotionally, before it begins to express itself behaviorally?
I'd be so interested to hear Dr Grande's theory on this..
Basic shyness felt bullied felt moral superiority needs to feel powerful and in control.
He hated women because he couldn't get any.
This is a dark story for me, but the bright spot is that sweet face peeking over your dinner table.
Bella must be your constant companion ♥️
I wish we had a way to encourage people with these thoughts to seek out therapy before they act on their desire.
NO DOUBT! YOUR COMMENT, WHILE, OF COURSE, WAS A LINE DRIVE TO THE CORE OF THE ISSUE. SADLY, I THINK, JUST LIKE ME BEING AN ALCOHOLIC (SOBER 6.5 YEARS, AM 50), WITH THE MINDSET I HAD IN THE 90’S DIDN’T WANT TO BE TALKED OUT OF DRINKING. WHAT WAS MY FIRST STEP WAS TO WANT TO WANT TO STOP 🛑.
@@jasonfield3903 but even your affliction is nothing compared to the desire to be a mass murderer.
In this case, Jake went out of his way to commit that.
There may be some way to help some kids with such thoughts, but they would have to want to be helped. That's the sticking point.
I had a pen pal who was a murderer. He sought professional help before his offence but was refused it.
Dr. Grande, I hate to say that my favorite part of your recent videos have been the Factor ads at the beginning. Your little dog peeping over the table brings a smile to my face every time! They remind me of our family dog we had for 15 years.
Yes, let Dr. Grande get his bag 👑 He deserves it. 👏
why does the system insist on letting psychopaths out in society again to commit more crimes?
Pure evil. What a sad world we are living in :(
This case highlights the destructive power of callousness. It’s unbelievable how self centered he is. I am not sure if evil exists or not, but if so he is very close to it.
Thank you for the review, Dr. Grande.❤
His actions were definitely evil. So sorry for his surviving family members. 😞
Hey at least he was def not a racist 😆
@@rheverendbuy
It does exist, and he is.
You're not sure what evil is, are you? Is he evil, or his actions or is it a guiding spirit like a guardian angel? If God created everything...
Todays question is; will I enjoy this video? I am absolutely diagnosing me with yes, I do believe I am guilty of this crime.
If cringe was a crime you’d be serving life without parole
And now moving to my analysis. This is just a theory. My opinion… this video provides many positive entertainment values. For example _ . Lmaoo
@61shirley after conversing with my lawyers, I will take the Alfred plea
@@Spudawg ❤️
Yes, you will get an adrenaline fix to temporarily mollify your addiction.
If he thought his family was suffocating him, he will really hate jail
these are both good points
He should NEVER be paroled
Do not think he can be rehabilitated
What is one more victim
Of course he will be paroled, but he's not coming to your house, why so worried?
There must be a long historical back story to this. How was he growing up? Did he ever deliberately hurt or kill animals? Did he ever feel remorse or guilt when he misbehaved? And the elephant in the room - how did his family miss any red flags when growing up? This is indeed unsettling.
Homeschooling children can be quite isolating and having no interaction with others can make them feel like they’re the only one who has feelings like they experience. I’m not trying to explain or excuse his actions but being able to hear peers complain about their situations could let him know he has a regular life.
I agree that in these cases where the kids had no apparent previous disturbing behaviour or obvious trauma I’m always curious to know more about their history and what they were like from people who knew them. The only commonality seems to be they frequently are described as quiet or loners so probably spend a lot of time in “in their heads”.
It’s also important to remember that things and people are often not what they seem from the outside.
@@martyalhe didn't have a regular life though...seemed rather wealthy actually & homeschool isn't devoid of socialisation - kids in public/private schools are just as likely to lash out & be anti-social....he really could just be a psychopath
If he was truly a narcissist (in addition to other disorders) this implies severe early childhood trauma. Rarely are such acts committed in a vacuum. This family has secrets for sure and it's likely he is not the only narcissist in the family.
I believe that the diagnosis is incorrect. It sounds like major depression with psychotic features, with nihilistic delusions.
This case is so disturbing.
JESUS! Did you guys see the SIZE OF THAT house!!? It's a wonder he could FIND them TO shoot them in that thing! In that house it's no WONDER it took the cops 25 minutes to get him!
Dr. Grande's casual (yet not) reference to the art room, the pool house, the study.....opposite the grandparent's house.....no doubt similar...
It's not that unusual for rich, privileged kids to lack an emotional connection to their families. Pretty sad stuff.
"he then entered the pool house, then the art room", couldn't figure out how to play the victim card so he blamed racism 🤮
Proof that money and a stable family aren’t enough in themselves to make a healthy human
@@lostandfound5145exactly. Man will always find a reason to do evil.
This is insane. His description of the events tells how disturbed he is.
Evans: "I ki11ed my family, or whatever. I'm sorry, I guess." So weird.
The reality, that I purposely shock myself with, is that most people are completely unpredictable at any time. We truly have no idea what people are capable of, and that's why I keep my guard up and aware of those around me, and the situations I place myself in. My wife says I can be paranoid, but based on this horrible event, and so many others, I call it strategically safe. Or as safe as I can be. Really comes down to protecting myself, family, and friends. Heartbreaking for the entire family, and the details about the sister, really stay with you.
What would drive someone so young to murder their sister and mother? This is so sad ….
If you listened to Dr. Grande's presentation, he had sadistic and psychopathic traits, not much empathy, and he identified with a fictional serial killer, instead of being repulsed by, or horrified by, this killer. Instead of being scared by these traits in himself, he found this part of himself congenial.
I think what tipped him was some Jealousy with Mallory and blamed particularly his Mom. The question for me, is why were the 2 eldest homeschooled and not the younger? Something or nothing here? Maybe it was just for the "experience". He must have been quite the coward to select his own, vs the "danger" of a lone, but unknown, victim. You know what I mean w/o spelling it out.
@@evelynwaugh4053 Yeah but how did he grow up and develop to be this way, is what they're asking
@@music0cool Some sadistic psychopaths are born, and some are a product of their DNA plus their environment (abuse, neglect). If his childhood environment was fairly normal, it would seem he was just born that way. Some people with destructive urges are horrified by them and get help, and some enjoy that side of themselves. He wasn't repulsed by his thoughts and fantasies of hurting others, and instead sought out role models in horror films, and eventually decided to enact his fanstasies in real life.
@@wrmlm37But he intended to kill his whole family, even his grandparents 😮
Only 17 and so much rage and anger. How utterly sad. Probably had no functional relationships. No quality friendships. A murderer now dark and dangerous. Tragic. 😢😢😢
I wonder if there was pressure on him to excel since he was the only male child.
I did not have any friends at 17 but I did not go around killing everything I hated or my own family. Same with my brother. But when someone get hyper fixated on something around that age good or bad, it is hard to convince teens other wise. The mind is just only starting to wire correctly. The parents can be the sweetest people and teens can find something to hate. I feel some teens just get to amped on the adrenaline and the thrill of breaking rules or even following the rules. I feel the the extremes can go both ways. I had a class mate and all she wanted to do was help the community and give and give. She would make protests outside coffee shops who pretend that they recycled. She was almost arrested because of that. It was driven out of her fear of dying like her siblings at 16. Her brothers died and her sister got pregnant all when they were 16. She was petrified of turning 16 because of it. Her mother was too depress and her father had died in a car wreck. Not many kids at the school actually liked her because of how fake happy she always was. I really think friends can help but they can also make it much worse.
Rage? He didn't seem to have any anger at all. He was cold as ice.
What you said at the end is exactly what I was thinking. The courts may have given us another serial killer.
There are segments of society, certain people, that for whatever reason cannot accept that evil exists. People who perform the ultimate in anti-social acts, simply because that is their nature. Those who are unable to see human nature as it is, are in my opinion, partly culpable if crime rates increase in the face of reduced sentencing, "restorative" justice, judicial mitigation of sentence lengths, and other mechanisms that return the most dangerous among us back onto the streets.
So true. Nowadays we are always looking for some diagnoses from a person who specializes in the mental health field. Their hope is that once we know what the label is we can look into fixing it. The sad truth is some faults are unfixable.
Exactly ! Just like everyone is obsessed with narcissism , these days . We need narcissist within society . Who among us will do the most dangerous jobs ? How many of the original astronauts were narcissist ? Probably 100% . There's no justice when it comes to murder . You murder someone , you should be unalived . I'm sick of hearing about " removing the stigma of mental illness" . Hell nah !!! I don't wanna be subjected to crazy people . I'm not ignoring my gut feeling . I don't need the drama . Having lived with a schizo during my youth . I'm done with empathy and understanding . The best thing that happened to my family was when the nut , self deleted . Eye for an eye because no one has walked out of their grave .
@@neige4221Animals kill each other. There really isn’t a difference
Because for one thing, evil is a construct of the Christian faith where mental illness doesn't exist. But that's complicated and thinking is against the rules. Also: God did it. God says categorically he is the author of evil: “I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create evil; I, the Lord, do all these things.” (Isaiah 45:7). "Evil" is not human nature, it's a copout. The rest of your blather has zero citations to reliable sources, you and your echo chamber just made it up. But I'm listening if you have some true facts. I predict an angry reply.
Agreed, they think that child murderers must be victims themselves and refuse to see that some people do evil things for fun and malice with no other reason. People that excuse this evil are facilitating them.
Unfortunately there are many evil people like Jake Evans getting out of prison every day.
And not getting in
They get sentenced to time served everyday!
AND getting Plea Deals...
Thank you Dr Grande I was refreshing to hear you say that murderers often times fully understand what they are doing. We are the ones who are struggling with the reality of what they've done.
Some people are just born evil. They are loved and often have good parents and a stable family so that is not the explanation.
Evil Dr. Grande: I am diagnosing everyone in this video.
😂
I think many underestimate how many people 'just want to know what it's like to kill someone'.
I also think that someone like this perp also wants someone to look after them for the rest of their lives. Whether it be their parents or the state, they're OK with their choice - at least at the moment.
Sometimes I think it’s a mistake for children to grow up so distanced from killing their own food.
I always wanted to have a little hobby farm so I went for it and I’ve witnessed my children interacting with the animals and experiencing difficulties when it is time to kill an animal.
I have a low level of disgust and thrived in the medical profession as a result and even I was surprised at how difficult it was to butcher an animal!
I suppose this can go the other way, of course, and encourage sadistic behavior. But at least, for my children, I have been able to foster compassion for the wildlife in our area as well as for the animals we raise for food.
They’ve learned that killing anything is incredibly unpleasant.
@@lostandfound5145many cultures have been hunting and killing their own meat since the beginning of time. Most have ceremonies surrounding them paying respect to the animal. They don’t have overwhelming amounts of kids turning into sadists because of it. The way people approach and teach hunting and killing makes a huge difference.
@@cady__ you’re right, the approach makes all the difference!
The pic of you in the shirt at the table with your dog is honestly so wholesome
Can you cover the Shirilla case in Ohio? 17yo in a bad relationship flips out and kills her bf and another. What an ugly case that is, hard to imagine a life in prison , but she clearly did it. I struggle with these 16-19yo murderers, and culpability
Yes, this is an unsettling case.
I just read about this also. Nuts! Need Dr. G to help us understand this? 🤔😓💀
10 year olds know the difference between right and wrong, so he knew the difference. He complains that people are mean for no reason. What is he? Beyond mean, Evil. He's making up sister's racism and looking for anything to get out of jail time. Obvious manipulation. He's a piece of Sh/t!
If she did, he did something to provoke it like grabbing the steering wheel.
Teenagers have very strange brains compared with adults. They can be very impulsive and overly emotional. Finally the Scotus ruled no one under 18 can be imprisoned for life without parole because as brain matures that needs to be factored in. In this case stealing a handgun showed premeditation, his fascination with horror films is similar to a murder by a teen of a live interest in the woods but didn't realize cameras in the area showed him after the act. This case sounds like an idiot teen lashing out feeling of he kills everyone then he won't have to deal with them anymore. He had dark fantasies not unlike other teen killers. He knew it was wrong. He grew up in privilege. Jeffrey Dahmer also shy knew killing was wrong since he first murdered the hitchhiker and felt his impulses were not something he could control. It is very difficult even for experts to understand these motivations only know that the aftermath is permanent for the victims and their families. If we could only catch and stop teens before they murder their family friends or strangers. A 6 year old shot his teacher and exclaimed he felt good about it. That child is now in intense therapeutic setting to reset his young brain away from his anger. His grandfather says intervention is helping the child develop less destructive ways to deal with frustration. My condolences to the father in this case above he had to suffer the loss of his entire family.
Dr.Grande, thank you for the frequent uploads, keeping us all entertained. Enjoying the podcast as well!
Hi Dr. Grande! There’s a case I just heard of involving a 19 year old girl named Mackenzie Shirilla, I haven’t seen anyone really talk about the case and would love if you did a video examining the murders she was charged with!!! Thank you in advance! Really hope you can make a video on it ❤
This case confirmed for me my theory that the media has an impact and influence on the motives of some people who do violence to others. Violent movies and video games as much as those that may disagree, have a somewhat strong correlation of influencing certain vulnerable people.
He didn’t kill his Mom and sister because he watched a movie 🙄he did it because he’s psychopathic and sadistic. Watching a movie did not do that to him, please.
@@cady__ it influenced him
Correlation does not equal causation. One of the first things you learn in a research class. Likely, people who are already prone to violence simply enjoy violent movies.
Because there was never murder before movies and video games, right.
@@666cemetaryslut: Chapman claimed to have been influenced by the book Catcher in the Rye before he killed John Lennon
This really is one of the more disturbing cases I've listened to and I can't quite put my finger on why...
a healthy 17 year old boy who doesn't go to school, watches movies all day and night, eats take out by himself in the pool house and doesn't cut the lawn , , , the math required to solve the "why"
of the murder equation is pretty rudimentary
Parental neglect, AKA abuse
As much as I love the episodes, when Dr. Grande does his advertisements, I just love it when he does big cheese grins for the pictures! It brings me joy :)
I really think this guy should never be released from prison.
Thank You. There are no words for this but your analogy helped me see this horrific tragic situation in a new light. I have often what could drive someone to kill their family members I always thought they were insane. I am beginning to see some times it’s just a person who is evil acting on their desires. Hard to comprehend.
This remembers me of Lowell Lee Andrews, who was featured in the novel In Cold Blood. He killed his parents and his sister and was executed for it. He was diagnosed as psychotic. In the book he was consistently featured as he was dead inside.
"Featured" is not quite right. "In Cold Blood" devoted only a few pages to the Andrews murders; it 𝘧𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘦𝘥 the killing of four members of the Clutter family.
"This remembers me..." Cela me rappelle? or me fait penser à?
@@jguenther3049 You're right. Thanks!
I always enjoy your speculation and analysis
It's so sad to learn about the youth of today committing murder. It makes me wonder about how their entire childhood was and if there were any warning signs leading up to the murders he was about to commit. I just received your book, "The Psychology of Notorious Serial Killers." Fascinating! I am an astrologer studying forensic astrology, in particular serial killers, and your book is an incredible learning tool. Thank you Dr. Grande for your extraordinary content and analysis of these difficult cases and topics.
forensic astrology
Interesting
The Dr. G tri-fecta
1) Hawaiian shirt
2) Bunny salt/pepper shakers
3) His doggy
I shot a man in Reno
Just to watch him die
When I hear that whistle blowing
I hang my head and cry
Funny I’ve sung that song 1000 times and never had a desire to kill anyone
Lol, love this comment
One of the few who did voice how horrible it was to do the actual murders. Too bad that reality couldn't have occurred to him first. 😓😫💀
This!!
But even in this he only felt sorry for himself.
Thanks for the upload, Dr. Grande!
Thanks Dr. Grande, i always enjoy your analyses.
As bad a childhood as I had it sure would have been different if I wood have had a parent like you. Your children are so blessed
Loved this! Much appreciated.
I’ve been waiting for this one! Such an inexplicable case when I heard about it. It’s hard for me to grasp the places some people live in mentally. Thank you for covering it Dr. Grande!
Wow this analysis sent shivers down my spine in the final thoughts, thanks Dr Grande.
Thank you for being so tasteful in how you cover tragic incidents like this. I enjoy your videos for the insight into behavior, splash of news, and some humor when appropriate, and always in a good balance.
I liked your little commercial! The dog peeking over the table is hilarious!
Thanks for your great work, Dr Grande! Your fan from Germany.
Just WOW! Great analysis, Dr. Grande. Thanks for all that you do to bring these true stories to us.
Thank you for the time and effort you put into creating these videos. I appreciate your insight and calm voice.
Had some extra time tonight, so I watched your video a bit early (I usually save them for the next morning's coffee). Always glad to see your little dog's cameo, every time you plug Factor (the little canine face peeking over the table is something I always look for).
Would be interesting to know about his psychological treatment while he was not competent to stand trial.
Just a guess but I’d say it revolves around his personal feelings about himself. He seems incredibly narcissistic for his age
Crime and Punishment follows the mental anguish and moral dilemmas of Rodion Raskolnikov, an impoverished ex-student in Saint Petersburg who plans to kill ... Once the deed is done, however, he finds himself racked with confusion, paranoia, and disgust.
In this story, however, the killer is unbelievably privileged and surrounded by comfort and available human companionship and doesn’t seem to be filled with the sort of Telltale Heart moral repugnance from Crime & Punishment.
It does still bear some striking resemblance as I’ve seen at least three comments that notice the similarities.
If only this young man had read Dostoyevsky instead of spending time watching Halloween and the Waterboy…
@@lostandfound5145 thank you, good observations there, seperately the dad looks quite brutal in the family photo and being home schooled may have been suffocating, this may have created imbalance in his mind ... this is a guy who maybe needs a sports hobby to use up his testosterone and energy, even just tennis or hiking if he was not a team type of guy. These can reduce the intensity of emotion so even if he has unusual ideas he will be less inclined to carry them out.
These videos continue to blow me away. Sometimes simplicity requires the most skill, this video is proof of that. The ability to write and present a story this well takes multiple skills and a ton of talent. Its impressive.
I cant even believe the words I'm hearing Dr. G say about this kid's thoughts about killing his family - its beyond horrifying 😭
Doc that was incredible! "Speculations" such as that are the reason you make the big bucks. That was you at your best as far as psychology is concerned. I sincerely applaud you.
Thank you Dr. Grande ... this is a very interesting and thought generating video. Scary ....
That was a great analysis Sir!!
Pool house, art room, study…did these people live in the board game Clue?!?
Jokes aside, what a tragedy for this family. Thanks for the analysis Dr. Grande.
Geez, why didn't he just ask his grandpa to take him to the range or to go hunting/fishing?
I remember seeing this case on another site. I appreciate the in depth information you give us, very informative, thank you!!
Your analysis in this particular case is so powerful
It's bad to have horror movies around young people. Unstable people are influenced by psychopathic anti-heroes, and sometimes you don't know which young people will be influenced. Transitioning to homeschooling was clearly frustrating for him, but he was unable to discuss reasonable ways to deal with his frustration and anger. If he had been able to sit down with his dad or a mature friend, maybe he could have sorted out his feelings and rejected violence. I think he is sorry, but his feelings are shallow. He knew in an intellectual way that he had done wrong, but he couldn't stop obsessing over the killer anti-hero. Maybe if he hadn't been exposed to those movies he would have gradually matured enough to reject violent impulses. What stands out to me is that he couldn't control his impulses, even though he knew he was ruining his life. The consequences were not real to him, even though he could verbalize right and wrong. He was emotionally detached from everything except killing, and perhaps thought he had to kill them. Nevertheless, I think the death penalty is appropriate for him. What we can learn from him is that some teen and young adult males have homicidal thoughts and try to recognize these people and help them before they resort to violence.
You could be right. I watched tons of those movies since third grade and some in my teens but not as much and it didn’t consciously seem to affect me but ya just never know 😮
Good he wasn't influenced by The Joker or Hannibal Lecter...
🔪🎃 You may have concurrently _speculated_ the psychopathy of Michael Myers, who also killed his sister in the movie.
Dr. Grande's analysis of Jake's state of mind and how Jake related to Mike Myers is very impressive. I didn't realize the things Dr. Grande explained. Wow. I watched that part of the video 3 times.
I have no comments on the case, only that Dr. Grande's dog looks like the sweetest little sugar puff and I hope that doggo has every comfort this life has to offer.
I can't help but feel like things like this are a perfect storm of sorts of conflicting worlds. I try to take everything with a grain of salt, but his comments about people being verbally cruel to each other struck a chord. It seems like many young empathetic folks have a difficult time navigating a cold, uncaring society that values material wealth over compassion. I did. People film others being harmed instead of helping. Even with healthy coping mechanisms and years of perspective, modern day to day can be daunting.
I can relate. Nothing was ever more traumatizing than this fact to me.
Though it wouldn't be society at large but your friends and parents. Honestly i had thought that sharing deep wounds would've made it strong but it's no different than strangers at this rate to how fragile bonds are.
Grande seems to dismiss Jake’s reasoning for his actions as ex-post facto justifications, but I got the impression that they were genuine even if they weren’t as significant a factor as he believes. Jake had reasonable complaints about society (even if was based on naive expectations and ignorance) and his related issues/concerns with his family were likely accurate based on their legacy in policing and choice to homeschool.
I agree , I'm surprised he missed the misanthropy this lad was feeling , there was an obvious hatred of society and its wrongs ,I believe in his mind he was hoping to be some sort of anti hero ,kill people he perceived of being humans he hated , he obviously lacks empathy but I dont think he is a full on psychopath. What he did was appalling and he should never be let out, he obviously needed help ,maybe signs were missed.
I can sort of relate, I have no desire to kill , but the last few years has seen an increase in truly narcissistic , cruel , bullying behaviour from people using cameras to film pranks or filming themselves stealing from shops , there seems to be a disconnect from reality from these people, I too have a certain hatred for this modern social media phenomenon , I think its destroying humanity , and I'm sick to death of the general lack of humanity shown to fellow humans in 2023,
I feel so sad he chose to practice killing on his family, his sister seemed so sweet and to think of what he did to them is heartbreaking.
You're absolutely right, empathy is losing out to attention no matter how someone gets it. Prank videos highlight the thinly veiled competitive sadism of social media. Teen girls are more destructive as bullies than boys, and he had 3 +1 in his house. I have the priceless perspective of growing up before the internet and it is something no one will ever experience again. You see it though, you are not wrong.
Confirmation bias is a trickster. Dont focus on finding the negativity that you want to see.
I think it's safe to say but this is one of the most chilling stories I've ever heard
I went to school with jake since elementary, we had English class together in 7th grade and he was always very quiet sitting in the back
"in reality, his actions are going to excite and satisfy him forever" well said Dr. Greande! That's the truth about psychopathy.
Im convinced my narcissistic older sister is capable of this and cut her out my life. She has kids and one of them is just like her...
Let's hope he never leaves the cage he has been assigned.
-daughter saying rude things about strangers
-children watching movies they have no business seeing
-son is evil psychopath
Sounds like poor parenting. I think they're the real villains in this story
Lol😅
Excellent video, highly interesting content
It had a to be more than just the urge to kill.He had to have thought about in longer than a few hours.😢
I don't understand why the courts were so lenient on him. He clearly understood right from wrong so he shouldn't have had time in a psychiatric institute before trial and conviction. He killed two people and should have received death (or if not allowed in that state) life without the possibility of parole. As you said, there is no cure for psycho thinking and sociopathy so even in 50 years he is still a risk to society. I cannot even imagine someone being that self absorbed and narcissistic as to desire to satisfy his curiosity to murder and carry it out in such a cold and calculating way. Odd he is able to see racism as evil but not murder as evil? I am not a highly religious person and never have been, but I feel like this modern era where western societies make fun of people who believe in God or some religion and believe in following those golden rules (like thou shall not kill), or where such belief prevents them from harming society has evaporated, and today's children have absolutely no moral compass. So they just indulge in any impulse without thought to the consequence to others. What happened to do onto others as you would have others do onto you? None of these sociopaths seem like they would like to be murdered and they understand it is wrong, but feel there well be not real consequences or that society will give them a pass of some sort. How can human beings grow up without empathy. It's almost an epidemic these days, no remorse or empathy anymore. Sad and sick.
Very interesting case. Thank you for your analysis
This one is exceptionally good! Insightful, Dr. Grande. 👍