Malcolm’s behaviour was super disappointing. Certainly destroyed any illusions I held about him. The irony is his behaviour and tactics are almost a perfect caricature of the exact reasons we shouldn’t trust the main stream media.
Apparently he is aware that he did poorly, and in some podcast did reflect a bit on his own performance. He said he should have been more ready and prepared for Douglas’ razor sharp “Oxford-debate trained” abilities and wit. Sadly for him, as Douglas has responded, he is not “trained” in some Oxford debating club. He just listened and learned - even from people he disagreed with. Even so, whatever abilities Douglas has, Gladwell’s own performance is inexcusable. Dishonest, malicious, amateurish. My opinion of him has sunk from indifferent to very low.
@@TommyGlint Even that reflection is way off. It has nothing to do with "oxford debate trained" abilities, and even if it was, it's not like Malcom isnt privileged and gone to the bst schools. The difference was, He didn't listen to a single word the other side said, and was weirdly stuck in a loop of bringing up that the other guy mentioned Walter cronkite and that that somehow was proof of his white supremacy and racism. It was so fucking bizarre to watch. How is he a journalist?
Douglas .... A master debater. "Having different opinions is so 20th century... having different facts....is lethal"....mic drop. Note to self, never, EVER debate Douglas Murray....he will destroy you with....facts ✌🏼
You think it takes genius to attack a person's professional pride and joy? OK. Dougles is verbally lethal, no doubt. But don't forget, he dislikes Trump!
But he was wrong about what journalist do today. If they were reporting the facts that they want us to hear or those that we do want to hear we would be in less deep trouble. We are lucky if we are given the facts at all. Often it is straight out opinions all the way.
Malcolm was so disappointing and dishonest in this debate. I'm so glad that Matt and Douglas were picked for this. Tho it would have been interesting to watch Malcolm debate someone he couldn't just smear as a racist and actually have to engage. Its wild to watch someone expose themselves as racist as they're making assumptions about someone and condescending to them because of the color of their skin. Outliers was written by this guy?
I know somebody that is ecstatic about Malcolm and she brings him up all the time. I had her read "the madness of crowds" and she kept saying how it was just like Malcolm's books so when I saw this debate I was excited to finally see him. I am so disappointed... He was arrogant, dishonest, denigrating, and arguing in bad faith. Maybe he was having a bad day, but I did not like what I saw at all...
@@willboudreau1187 alright dick munch chill out. From your rant l think we re in agreement about DM s skills so I’m not sure what the wake up was about. Rare doesn’t actually mean rare in this sense.
This is the most important 3 minutes on UA-cam right now. If you haven't shared this with your friends and family (at least to those who care to think about this topic), then I implore you to do so.
Douglas Murray has a recall that is almost eidetic, enabling him put his opponents on the defense without the use of any cheap tricks. His contrarian nature coupled with the ability to patiently and thoroughly address every point and counterpoint, every snide slight or piece of intellectual dishonesty, every violation of the rules of debate, sets him apart in a way the reminds me of Hitchens.
Bravo Douglas Murray, well said. I had held Malcom Gladwell in high regard however, he had revealed a level of contempt that was shocking. The audience sensed the same as well, and the lopsided debate score should give Malcom Gladwell serious pause. Thank you Munk Debates, keep up the great work!
Fantastic! How does he find his words to organise his stream of thoughts in such an elegant and strikingly accurate way? And hits the nail every time!!
Sir Murray , you are an outstanding analitical historian. A real intellectual. Your aurora is a strong ray of light in the contemporary darkness !!! thousands Thanks.
I turned away from the mainstream media in 1998. Even then it took a half a braincell to see that it was not 'news', but instead it was 'here is what you should think'. Here in Canada I made a little experiment during the truckers protest in Ottawa.... by watching uncommented livestreams made by the people there, and also watching the media's coverage. It was as if I was watching two completely separate events....what I saw, and what the mainstream media told me what they saw...... it was a total joke.
Douglas Murray you’re an incredible intelligent human being. We are quite ecstatic having you as a journalist and Author of grade books thank you for your educating these so-called stupid journalist!
Douglas Murray: "Having different opinions is so 20th Century, this century we have different facts." This is big! For who lives in a bubble, opinions become facts, own illusion becomes an alternative reality, independent of truth, nature or common sense. That's why dialog is hard, almost impossible. Opinions can be changed, but giving up to a reality nourished from delusion is unbearable, a sort of suicide.
Beautiful speech. Problem as he mentioned is that the MSM give their audience what they want to hear and I so wish that I can convince friends and family of that.
If one does not listen to others one disagrees with, one ends up like Gladwell, embarrassingly relying on informal fallacies, instead of arguments. People who listen are more persuasive in a debate. The audience will also be listening. Perhaps, closely.
The problem is, that these MSM journalists think they know better what the public is able to digest & what not. Instead of mind-reading & trying to have a political outcome or follow their ideological narrative, they should just let the truth speak for itself. That used to be a thing.
Bravo. I am flabergasted, the right way. You should listen to the wonderfull historian Annie Lacroix-Riz on elmer idées. If you belong to the high sociaty you know french. Orherwise to can use an online translater to do so. I am french. I was not teached english or german at home but worked hard alone to handle both languages. Maybe you did so. After more than 60 years I finally get to know the reality of, let us say, the past 120 last years.
The silliest thing in the debate was Gladwell confusing his sneering for intelligence. I'd be surprised if Gladwell could look himself in the mirror when he got back to his hotel room.
George Carlin once said sarcastically "If honesty was introduced into American politics, the whole system would grind to a halt." Seems like it's become the same story in media and news coverage. Nobody talks facts anymore. We have too many analysts. I don't want a news broadcaster to analyze what I heard someone say. I want facts and honesty. There is only 1 set of facts, no matter whose side you're on or what you believe.
…Never heard of Douglas a year and a half ago… But he has swiftly become one of my favorite public intellectuals…
Then don't miss his back catalogue of brilliant content and books. You won't regret the searching.
He's hands down the best debater I've come across. His books are superb as well.
He is a pro war NeoCon unfortunately. We need the Right to be pro peace and reject Imperialism
Same
Agreed.
Well Malc.
The amount of times Douglas corrected him throughout this debate was nuts.
Douglas, keep on fighting the good fight.
Anyone have the link to the full debate?
No, it's because Malc kept calling him Doug.
@@_nuance If you listen carefully in the debate you can hear Douglas repeatedly quietly attempt to correct Malc, who seemed to repeatedly ignore it.
@@MrRocksW here you go.
ua-cam.com/video/nvaf7XOOFHc/v-deo.html
@@Effrit_Haldane Not even quietly, it was loud enough to be picked up on the microphone for the entire public to hear.
Malcolm’s behaviour was super disappointing. Certainly destroyed any illusions I held about him. The irony is his behaviour and tactics are almost a perfect caricature of the exact reasons we shouldn’t trust the main stream media.
Apparently he is aware that he did poorly, and in some podcast did reflect a bit on his own performance. He said he should have been more ready and prepared for Douglas’ razor sharp “Oxford-debate trained” abilities and wit.
Sadly for him, as Douglas has responded, he is not “trained” in some Oxford debating club. He just listened and learned - even from people he disagreed with.
Even so, whatever abilities Douglas has, Gladwell’s own performance is inexcusable. Dishonest, malicious, amateurish.
My opinion of him has sunk from indifferent to very low.
@@TommyGlint Even that reflection is way off. It has nothing to do with "oxford debate trained" abilities, and even if it was, it's not like Malcom isnt privileged and gone to the bst schools. The difference was, He didn't listen to a single word the other side said, and was weirdly stuck in a loop of bringing up that the other guy mentioned Walter cronkite and that that somehow was proof of his white supremacy and racism. It was so fucking bizarre to watch. How is he a journalist?
Tommy and Andrew, you nailed it! Great comments!
@@TommyGlint Yea he made excuses and used that introspection time to come up with more ad hominems. That tells you how outclassed he was.
Douglas Murray is simply amazing.
Easy to look good against that opposition.
Douglas .... A master debater. "Having different opinions is so 20th century... having different facts....is lethal"....mic drop. Note to self, never, EVER debate Douglas Murray....he will destroy you with....facts ✌🏼
Who asked???
@@barryswinton3224 Who asked what, Barry?
Master debater lol
Never try to sass a gay conservative.
That's bringing a knife to a howitzer fight.
Yes. But I hope so many more will try,- then the msm will finally have faces. And we will see who they are. Lisbeth
Why doesn't this video have at least 8 billion thumbs up?
It was only posted 4 hours before you commented
Full marks to Douglas for telling the truth.
"Well, Malc". That's golden.
Douglas was so smart in this. He saw Malc’s ego and knew to go after his book and humiliate him.
It was like Einstein arguing with a puppy who think it's clever. I can't imagine how embarrassed "Malc" was after.
You think it takes genius to attack a person's professional pride and joy? OK. Dougles is verbally lethal, no doubt. But don't forget, he dislikes Trump!
The closing statement that put the nail in the coffin. Douglas is such a beast.
Douglas Murray hit the nail on the head. 💯 💐👑"The job of a journalist is to tell people facts that they don't want to hear..." - George Orwell
Murray defends fake news. Time he was rejected by LGBT globally. Nothing but a Bigot and a hater.
But he was wrong about what journalist do today.
If they were reporting the facts that they want us to hear or those that we do want to hear we would be in less deep trouble.
We are lucky if we are given the facts at all. Often it is straight out opinions all the way.
@@0MoTheG
When d oes Murray care about facts? Another racist,sexist,lgbt hating climate change deniar. That says it all.
Douglas Murray’s books are brilliantly written truths.
Malcolm was so disappointing and dishonest in this debate. I'm so glad that Matt and Douglas were picked for this. Tho it would have been interesting to watch Malcolm debate someone he couldn't just smear as a racist and actually have to engage. Its wild to watch someone expose themselves as racist as they're making assumptions about someone and condescending to them because of the color of their skin. Outliers was written by this guy?
I know somebody that is ecstatic about Malcolm and she brings him up all the time. I had her read "the madness of crowds" and she kept saying how it was just like Malcolm's books so when I saw this debate I was excited to finally see him. I am so disappointed... He was arrogant, dishonest, denigrating, and arguing in bad faith. Maybe he was having a bad day, but I did not like what I saw at all...
Douglas Murray is a hell of a debater and orator. He was on rare form here
Murray was not on rare form here. HE IS ALWAYS THIS DEVASTATING TO HIS OPPONENTS - EVERY TIME HE SPEAKS. Wake up.
@@willboudreau1187 alright dick munch chill out. From your rant l think we re in agreement about DM s skills so I’m not sure what the wake up was about. Rare doesn’t actually mean rare in this sense.
He's a master debator.
This is his everyday form actually.
@@d3w3yd3c1m4l Please educate yourself and look up the definition of rare form. It doesn't mean rare in the sense that you seem to think it does.
Douglas been a UK legend for years
Omg. What a verbal smackdown.
Douglas Murray did a great job.
Absolutely brilliant. Gladwell had a difficult time in this debates, as most do when they face Douglas Murray.
Well done, Mr. Murray. Brilliant summation, and thoroughly enjoyed watching you put the sanctimonious, insufferable "Malc" in his place. Well done.
How is Malc’ even popular/famous? Guy is an absolute lightweight
Douglas Murray just said what everyone is thinking now.
This is the most important 3 minutes on UA-cam right now. If you haven't shared this with your friends and family (at least to those who care to think about this topic), then I implore you to do so.
Murray nails it here.
What a wonderful wise knowledgeable worth listening to speech! Love you Douglas ❤
Douglas Murray has a recall that is almost eidetic, enabling him put his opponents on the defense without the use of any cheap tricks. His contrarian nature coupled with the ability to patiently and thoroughly address every point and counterpoint, every snide slight or piece of intellectual dishonesty, every violation of the rules of debate, sets him apart in a way the reminds me of Hitchens.
Need more hero's like Douglas
Bravo Douglas Murray, well said. I had held Malcom Gladwell in high regard however, he had revealed a level of contempt that was shocking. The audience sensed the same as well, and the lopsided debate score should give Malcom Gladwell serious pause. Thank you Munk Debates, keep up the great work!
Well said Mr. Murray.
I agree with your statement Douglas 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍.
Arise Sir Douglas Murray!
Fantastic! How does he find his words to organise his stream of thoughts in such an elegant and strikingly accurate way? And hits the nail every time!!
Simply brilliant...because this is so honest!
I had little respect for Gladwell before, and even less now.
Brilliant……. this guy is a national treasure
I love Douglas. Absolute genius.
Sir Murray , you are an outstanding analitical historian. A real intellectual. Your aurora is a strong ray of light in the contemporary darkness !!! thousands Thanks.
I turned away from the mainstream media in 1998. Even then it took a half a braincell to see that it was not 'news', but instead it was 'here is what you should think'. Here in Canada I made a little experiment during the truckers protest in Ottawa.... by watching uncommented livestreams made by the people there, and also watching the media's coverage. It was as if I was watching two completely separate events....what I saw, and what the mainstream media told me what they saw...... it was a total joke.
Inspiring and true. Thank you Douglas!
Douglas Murray you’re an incredible intelligent human being. We are quite ecstatic having you as a journalist and Author of grade books thank you for your educating these so-called stupid journalist!
Douglas Murray: "Having different opinions is so 20th Century, this century we have different facts." This is big!
For who lives in a bubble, opinions become facts, own illusion becomes an alternative reality, independent of truth, nature or common sense.
That's why dialog is hard, almost impossible. Opinions can be changed, but giving up to a reality nourished from delusion is unbearable, a sort of suicide.
Truth.
BRILLIANT. common Douglas W.
So proud of Douglas xxx
Douglas Murray is awesome!
Douglas, is brilliant as always. And right!
Murray shows that intelligence and humor tend to go together. The performance of the establishment advocates in this debate was pathetic.
Douglas Murray is a Brillant Mind, Like Jordan Peterson, I wish I could say the same our canadian governance !
Douglas speaks up for honesty and truth and has the balls and guts to do
.....keep standing strong your a light in the midst of elite corruption
Beautiful speech. Problem as he mentioned is that the MSM give their audience what they want to hear and I so wish that I can convince friends and family of that.
What a brilliant guy.
Malc has embarrassed himself. Just unsubscribed from Malc’s podcast.
Never heard of this guy until now. He's as sharp as a razor blade.
Thumbs down to idiotic commenters who have never heard of Murray. Get on a better game mister.
I love Douglas!💪🏻
It’s simple. Do not trust nor distrust anyone you do not need to make a decision on.
But speaking the truth is indeed a radical act. Simply revolutionary.
Even more true today . If ever there was a true foreboding this was one… Well done Douglas and Matt.
I don't know who this guy is but he totally demolished Gladwell. Bravo sir
Thumbs down to idiotic commenters who don't know who Murray is.
Douglas is brilliant, a modern day gentlemen. Well spoken, well dressed, articulate and intelligent, but most of all honest.
Wow 😮
The debate where Malcom Gladwell lost all credibility and took a hot dump on his career
Shoutout to Morpheus junior in the background, confirming that yes, we are indeed in the Matrix.
Orwell wrote books on how such societies can go to hell.
When Douglas said "being GLIB" about media stories, oh, what a look he gave to Malcolm.......
#voteDouglasMurray
Mr. Murray FTW…in a very big way
Douglas is straight 🔥
Yes! Lethal to have different facts.
the amazing Douglas Murray!
Douglas is brilliant.
Sooo right......
If it had been boxing, they would have stopped it. Well played, Douglas.
Well said
"Malc" played some dirty games here, strawmanning, suggestions of racism where there were none etc, yet Douglas had him beat at each.
So well said
rumor has it Malc had to see a mental health counselor after this
Douglas is amazing
Legend!
If one does not listen to others one disagrees with, one ends up like Gladwell, embarrassingly relying on informal fallacies, instead of arguments. People who listen are more persuasive in a debate. The audience will also be listening. Perhaps, closely.
Well said!
Well said!
Yaaaaaaassss👍🏻💯
Glad Douglas and Matt won
The problem is, that these MSM journalists think they know better what the public is able to digest & what not.
Instead of mind-reading & trying to have a political outcome or follow their ideological narrative, they should just let the truth speak for itself. That used to be a thing.
Gladwell's book sales just dropped precipitously since this debate
🎤 drop! Well..... Malc!
Gladwell is so out of his depth it's hilarious
It was shocking how outmatched he was in this. He tried every adolescent and cheap trick in the book and Murray just kept putting him in his place.
Watching this debate reminds me of a cat playing with a wounded mouse...
Bravo. I am flabergasted, the right way. You should listen to the wonderfull historian Annie Lacroix-Riz on elmer idées. If you belong to the high sociaty you know french. Orherwise to can use an online translater to do so. I am french. I was not teached english or german at home but worked hard alone to handle both languages. Maybe you did so. After more than 60 years I finally get to know the reality of, let us say, the past 120 last years.
Would have liked to have access to the entire debate.
It's on UA-cam if you look for it
Superb
Malc is the poster child for why regular people hate coastal elites.
Imagine having to be on the others side of that argument and say that the MSM is truthful…
DOUGLAS ❤
My thoughts are similar to what Mr Murray said here, but his recent actions are rather contrary to this.
Why does it take Murray; because it’s too late. American men, remember the torries
Am disappointed in Malcolm Gladwell he was too much in his feelings here.
The silliest thing in the debate was Gladwell confusing his sneering for intelligence. I'd be surprised if Gladwell could look himself in the mirror when he got back to his hotel room.
Malcom was so smug and bizarre.
It's been 6 months. Anyone know if Malc's wounds have healed?
*_Does the Truth derive from Authority or_*
*_Does Authority derive from the Truth?_*
Douglas Murray is mainstream media
George Carlin once said sarcastically "If honesty was introduced into American politics, the whole system would grind to a halt."
Seems like it's become the same story in media and news coverage. Nobody talks facts anymore. We have too many analysts. I don't want a news broadcaster to analyze what I heard someone say. I want facts and honesty. There is only 1 set of facts, no matter whose side you're on or what you believe.
malc embarrassed himself here
Hey ! , what a voice of reason in the swamp of bad voices 🎉