Douglas Murry has huge balls to be the outlier in a huge room full of people who despise him. You can see when he starts talking that everyone has their arms folded and is looking at him with contempt. What a total boss.
Douglas is a bitch who supported every war in the destabilised region. Wants to bomb countries but doesn't want to accept the repercussions. Neo con loser
@@mustafaalawad8348 Even without western interventionism, the Middle East would not be a peaceful, thriving place. Women's genitals would continue to be mutilated, Muslims would still oppress ethnic minorities, gays would continue to be thrown off of rooftops, and women would still be slayed in honor killings. It would not be all rainbows and sunshine.
One against four "and they're still afraid of him" ... He wiped the floor with them... The number of lies proceeding from the group about security threats & crime coming with refugees was unbelievable... And that's just one point... Their hypocritical ignorance when it came to so-called "colonization" & the so-called "white savior" was unbelievable too... Considering they're discussing what predominantly "white" nations should be doing in helping predominantly "brown & black" nations... You can't be that demanding of "white" people's help & then ridicule the fact that "white" people are helping... The whole thing was ludicrous from start to finish... Agreed that Douglass was a legend in that debate... They're lucky he didn't get the chance to open up on them... You can tell he had much more to say.
@@rigelb9025 It's nothing to do with "homecourt advantage" Douglas is well used to debating in a hostile crowd... But you've got "four" people on that stage "including the host" making one argument, while you have only "one" person in Douglass Murry making the other argument to a crowd who's in complete agreement with the "four"... That's not a fair debate by anyone's standards... Yet he still won... They resorted to misinformed slander about so-called "colonization & white saviors" then proceeded to outright lie about the crime statistics & security threat coming with open doors & so-called refugees... Then to laugh at the freedom of speech being attacked when Douglas made the point while talking about freedom of expression when it comes to minority rights against the majority in the host nations... The outrageous intentional ignorance & hypocrisy of the pro-open borders crowd was astounding.
The debate is in English. That is the point. For their views to reach English speaking people. The pushback is from their point of view and both speakers got pushback. Murray a bit more. Wasn't his best performance but he was in a hostile environment. It's clear to me globalism is not sustainable. We need decentralized municipalism. Where we keep our cultures intact. Right now we have open borders for commerce and closed borders for labor. That's exploitation.
Woman: "Douglas you suggest that" "You suggest" "You make the suggestion that" Douglas: "When did I suggest that?" Woman: Moves to next point straight away. What a vile woman, completely clueless and out of her depth 😂
@@BonRain8734 if you lived in Arab countries you would know they talk like this all the time. It's not abnormal. This is how they debate. Your panties in a bunch makes me laugh
The irony of this being hosted in Qatar when they take pretty much zero refugees while having the funds, plus being much closer culturally to accept them.
Absolutely, she thinks that speaking incredibly fast over people, is clever. She has NO Class. Considering what Country Douglas Murray was in, his answers were INCREDIBLY BRAVE and TRUE without Wishing to cause insult. He spoke from his heart and the Audience SQUIRMED.
I've always liked Douglas Murray, but my respect for him just shot up . To be able to clearly articulate your views when you have a confrontational moderator and a whole panel and audience that disagrees with you must be SO difficult. Nevermind that he can make respectful quips, convey his points without missing a beat, challenge the audience is just objectively really commendable.
absolutely not. He curbed his strong anti Muslim views here because he knew this wouldn't slide in a strong, rich Muslim nation. He is a smart man, but his enmity and misdirection of hatred towards Muslims and Islam holds him back
@@AC-mp7cx lol shit attempt to discredit the guy. Please point out any anti Muslim rhetoric from any of his books, many newspaper columns or debates. I'll wait...
@@AC-mp7cx Try curbing the violence/not murdering cartoonists and treating women/homosexuals better and the civilized world will be a whole lot more receptive to your currently thoroughly backwards religion.
How ironic that such a debate was held in Qatar. How many people did Qatar take in during the refugee crisis? I can't find a number, the only thing I can find is the estimated deaths from migrant workers during the world cup. What a shambles.
So Qatar is the barometer of human rights? By the way Jordan gave refuge to millions of Syrian refugees so did Lebanon and Turkey which makes your whole argument just as fictitious as your attempt to mask your racism and bigotry.
@@aamnahere6250 Why is it bigot and racist to remind a bunch of Qataris that they are the last people on earth to give lessons to the West when it comes to refugees and citizenship? By the way, Turkey is one of the reasons why Syrians have to flee...
Fyi if you are a Qatari women that chose to marry a non Qatari guy. Her children arent eligible in getting the passport. Qatar is a hypocrite for not taking refugees while it's one of the richest country in the world
@@aamnahere6250 Douglas was responding to the moderator pointing the finger at the West for not taking enough refugees,while ignoring the lack of aid from 'some' countries on Syrias doorstep,eg Qatar.Show me why thats racist?
they have more immigrants per capita do they not? Imagine Britain with 1.1 million immigrants.... they scream '' invaaaaasion '' with a mere 1.1% change in immigration in 2015 - , just imagine 60 million afraid like - that is fragile - in comparison to 60 - 80 percent immigrants in some of these middle eastern countries and still they have low crime rates, much much lower than britain's - Do Europe get the 'bad eggs' ? or is their treatment of them disgusting? I was in Austria recently - 10 years these people are just sitting there on government assistance as they aren't allowed to even work and make something for themselves - how can one justify this? then when crime starts - they start the narrative " immigrants causing crime rates to rise this past year etc etc " - not " 10 years and still no papers for these people who came to seek asylum, being forced to feed their children with drug money and hidden underground markets , Austrian government still has no answers, how long can this go on for? How long can we keep the public blind t o this?"
But they didn't sign up to take refugees is a pretty valid arguement if we are being fair. It's our own fault for getting ourselves into this situation
Worse, they follow an Arab supremacist cult that was forced to stop slavery in 1952 and following the supremacist cult of Islam they discriminate against non Ms in law. So, this accusation that the West needs to be more accommodating is a joke.
@@AC-mp7cx You've misused the word so much it means nothing now. You've called everyone bigot when only very few are, and certainly not Douglas. You don't even know how stupid you are. This is the recent mistake of the West. You are no longer taught that humility is a virtue. Then you get too many stupid people thinking they're smart all day when even smart people get things wrong...
@@tomorrowneverdies567 Doesn't even really matter. What matters is she showed how biased she is when she's supposed to be there to be as unbiased as possible in an event that's supposed to present the merits of every position present. She failed to do so. Activist means she failed to do her job properly.
This debate was infuriating to listen to, the gall to suggest the west is an intolerant nightmare while sitting in Qatar is actually insane. How tolerant would the gulf states be if the west moved to their countries by the millions? Douglas was the only intact brain stem in the room.
These hypocrites WOULDN'T let people move into them by the millions! 2.6 million people live in Qatar and only, 313,000 of them are Qatari citizens and you can only get a passport if you prove you have Qatari descent...
how nasty the moderator treated Mr Murray was absolutely disgraceful. She didnt even let him answer the questions and misrepresentation of his statements that he was bombarded with. and with good reason she wouldnt let him speak: he would have made her look like an imbecile
absolutely not. He curbed his strong anti Muslim views here because he knew this wouldn't slide in a strong, rich Muslim nation. He is a smart man, but his enmity and misdirection of hatred towards Muslims and Islam holds him back
If the alcohol and speedo loving tax payers of England are so awful, why do you still want to come? I detected an awful lot of snobbery coming from the moderator and her friends.
The entire panel is insufferable, arrogant to high heavens. If this is what educated Muslim migrants/citizens think like, imagine the average Muslim/migrant
I'm an immigrant from Mexico to the U.S. It is not racist to think that I, as an immigrant going to another country, should adapt and accept the culture that I'm moving to. Not the other way around. Of course people shouldn't be racist or bigoted in any way, but if a westerner was to move to China or Saudi Arabia, they would not just be expected but demanded to adapt to those cultures. Why is it in the West the same can't be asked of immigrants coming here? Instead, racism is used as an excuse to shut down the conversation of British, American or Australians for example, to have the right to keep their own cultures. I would not want Mexico to be de-mexicanized if you will. Mexico has a beautiful culture and should have the right to keep that culture without apology.
@@mania4270 No. The moderator was rather combative against Murray and the videos which were played showed a clear bias against his postion. Also it speaks ill of you by assuming the original poster has an "Ideology" by just going off of what he said in the original comment.
@@lukeappleberry827 the moderator wasnt rude. If you seem like you're going off on tangent, the moderator has to stop you before you start to ramble. He was rambling at one point. Lastly, his position was dangerous to let his talking points be displayed. Its like having someone justify their racism, it kinda doesnt matter at that point. He literally said you should listen to the ppl who have a problem with immigration, like just hear them out. Im paraphrasing a bit there. But the reason why its bullshit its because the opinion of a citizen about whether someone enters their country doesnt matter. If I want to live in america or where ever, its none of your business. So moderator cut him off because nonsense like that leads to unintelligent debates like the one im having now
Okay, firstly nothing Murray said was racist. I understand that's a common buzzword for people to spit out when they encounter an idea that differs from their own, but as states previously nothing he said could be termed "racist" as you describe it. Secondly for you to say that citizens of a country do not have the right to say who does or doesn't enter their country via immigration is asinine. Thirdly but not lastly this only goes to show how you feel and are very much the ideologue you portrayed the original poster to be. Now finally this is not a debate, simply me explaining to a misguided troll how their opinion is junk.
"His positions were dangerous to let his talking points be displayed." That's the problem I take issue with the most from your comments as basically your saying that if you don't like what someone has to say then it is okay to silence them. If you can't recognize the error in that judgement then you my friend are lost. Everyone should be allowed to speak their opinion freely, period. Especially when said opinion is in the form of a debate, as this is. Cause in a debate people are allowed to express their ideas to others in a free and open forum. That's hard to do when a moderator of said debate clearly favors one side of the arguement and is combative to the other.
how sad it is that such an important debate is ruined by such a bad moderator. Whoever gave Ghida Fakhry this job should be fired, because it's clear Ghida doesn't understand how a moderator should behave. She manipulates words, ignores everything that is outside her understanding or opinion and asks questions, but does not let them be answered, a 10 year old debater can do better than her and it is such a shame that such an important topic was destroyed and swept under the table that today, 5 years later, we are only now beginning to open our eyes to it… I hop that we Will never forget this exemplar of how Ghida Fakhry with her ignorance, creates a wrong understanding of incredibly important and good opportunities.
The moderator clearly departed the pretence of impartiality during the cross examination of Douglas Murray. Her treatment of him, relative to the other two participants, was absolutely shameful.
If you love far right wing neo Nazis, then, sure, be respectful to Douglas. If you hate far right neo Nazi kunts, then Murray deserves all the respect he gets, which is none.
I agree. For a few minutes there, I assumed the mod was one of the debate panelists, as I was listening only, not watching. Aren't mods supposed to, idk...moderate..? as opposed to eviscerate? Not that she did it well, mind you (the evisceration), but she sure tried!
This really did not age well. Douglas Murray had to put up with that horrible woman constantly putting words in his mouth that he did not say and then talking over him. The only person worth listening to was Douglas.
absolutely not. He curbed his strong anti Muslim views here because he knew this wouldn't slide in a strong, rich Muslim nation. He is a smart man, but his enmity and misdirection of hatred towards Muslims and Islam holds him back
Honestly I just want to hear Douglas Murray finishing a response. This was not a debate nor a discussion. It was simply Ghida Fakhry launching bias statements one after another with a clear purpose to attack Douglas Murray, even putting words in his mouth. She did not seem to be asking the questions in good faith or wanting any actual answers. It is a huge shame, and extremely unfair to the audience who wants equal and respectful discussion that illustrates ideas from both sides.
57:39 She says, "There is something called democracy though? Elections.", in response to Douglas examples of Iran, Russia, Saudi & China. Stunning stupidity.
Next time the organizers should do better. Ms. Ghida Fakhry was really disrupting Douglas Murray many times - something she did not do with the others. This was very unfair and clearly nowhere close to neutral. But I have to admit that most of the time Murray was up to the task anyway. He had the best, most rational and balanced arguments.
The moderator is unbelievable in her interruptions to Douglas. You can challenge his points I suppose (but then sort of cease to be a "moderator surely) but as host at least have the grace to let him finish talking. Just plain unprofessional from a moderator to a guest.
She wasn't acting in the capacity of a moderator towards Douglas. She was attempting to attack him, using her position as leverage. It had the effect of making the whole thing a farce, and you can see the bemusement on Douglas' face, at that point he knows it's a waste of time.
Dear Ghida Fakhry, the concept of moderating a debate does not mean that because with a sweat and low voice, you actually bring something clever. Putting words, intentions, judgments and morals in your guest instead of letting them to speak out is the worst thing someone can do in a debate. It is a good thing that people were allowed to speak 4-5min before having a 'conversation' with you, otherwise the waste of time would have been total. At least, some of them put you at your place before you could ashamed yourself even more. Please, change for a more accurate job for you.
Oh my god, that "host" is insufferable. She asks Murray a question then constantly interrupts him, shifts the goalposts as he’s speaking, gives a weird “aha, gotcha” snide comment then moves straight to the next question without him even being able to get a sentence out. How did she even get the job? The role of a debate host is to be an impartial moderator, not bombard your guests with childish traps to push your own agenda. I felt like throwing my laptop out the window while watching this. What an awful woman.
I’m a refugee that resettled in the U.S. Every country has a right to sovereignty. Protect your borders and screen every single person before allowing them in. The current residents have priority for safety over foreign nationals waiting to get in. If you’re going to live in another country, you should assimilate and adapt to your new country that takes you in. If you’re going to hate the new country’s culture and values, you should move on and go to another country with similar culture and values. Don’t try to change anything. Do not try to make your host country similar to the place you left behind.
Wow 👏 👏 👏 see, you are the exact kind of refugee/immigrant that we LOVE AND WELCOME! America is soooooooo much more accepting and welcoming of immigrants than ANY OTHER COUNTRY! And yet, all we ask is that you come here and respect our country, respect our culture, learn the language, and contribute. If you do that, then you are a fellow AMERICAN!
Douglas Murray did very well considering the entire debate panel ( even the moderator) was against him. They even had pre prepared videos and kept putting words into his mouth all while the audience followed along with all their talking points. Big respect to him
absolutely not. He curbed his strong anti Muslim views here because he knew this wouldn't slide in a strong, rich Muslim nation. He is a smart man, but his enmity and misdirection of hatred towards Muslims and Islam holds him back
@@AC-mp7cx he spoke nothing but the truth. I noticed you didn’t call him out on specific things he said, you just applied arbitrary labels to him and said he hated Muslims. Reasonable criticism of an old and intolerant religious system in serious need of reform does not entail hatred or enmity towards those who believe in it.
@@okyes5671 Funny how you couldnt do precisely what you accused me of. It's easy to call Islam xyz, as you did, hard to actually call it out on specifics, without lack of context and arguing in poor taste
She's rude, she has her own agenda. Sadly, she clearly hasn't done her homework research, she gets quite nasty when losing the argument. Also she trys to put words in his mouth. Not a good person to do a debate.
absolutely not. He curbed his strong anti Muslim views here because he knew this wouldn't slide in a strong, rich Muslim nation. He is a smart man, but his enmity and misdirection of hatred towards Muslims and Islam holds him back
I fully agree with the comments. I hated how the the moderator constantly interrupted Mr Douglas. Yes i understand it was a debate but she could have let him finish make his point.
douglas asking audience "how many syrians have you made citizens of qatar?" is just the nail in the coffin for all this panel. watching the audience hold back or hide their smiles is priceless
Thank you and God bless you! See what people don't realize is that we LOVE AND WELCOME refugees and migrants like you and your family! We WANT a fair, healthy amount of immigration of people that WANT to celebrate and support our nation. I don't understand why it is so "criminal" to not want to bring in people that DON'T LIKE our country?? It makes no sense lolz.
She is so very, very dreadful, I couldn’t stand to listen to her constant interruptions and subjective gibes. Douglas Murray, as usual, intelligence and common sense personified.
The moderator was WAY too biased against Douglas, I personally have noticed this with people like herself. The intelilectual laziness of not being able to put someone in a box leaves you with infinite assumtions about what that person believes. We clearly saw her make point after point about Douglas' beliefs that he flat out denied. Less biased moderators needed please.
A total misread of this thing. If you have ever lived in Arab countries you might understand this more. They debate everywhere. On the streets barber shops coffee shops. Virtually everywhere. And they are aggressive debaters.
@@1848revolt Spirited dialogue doesn't exclude internationally recognised etiquette. Moral disdain for the West appears to be the consensus in Doha, as is basic slavery in Qatar.
18:13 Douglas Murray's Speech 24:26 1st moderator's confrontation 55:00 1st question to Murray 1:00:05 2nd moderator's confrontation 1:09:06 3rd moderator's confrontation 1:12:52 Murray's intervention 1:13:59 2nd question to Murray 1:18:53 Murray's final toughts *Note* It is important for everyone to listen to the whole debate, but Douglas Murray was the only person in that auditorium who showed a clarity of thought worth mentioning.
Wow, the amount that the interviewer interrupted Douglas was insane. Imagine being up against 4 opponents in a debate and not allowed to make any points.
I have to say… the host was terrible. She only tried to nitpick Douglas because she didn’t agree but just ate up everyone that fit her narrative to make her feel like she has moral high ground.
The host should be sacked. She seems to think the job of a host is to speak more than the panelists. She was incredibly unprofessional. She was employing all kinds of logical fallacies. She wouldn't allow Douglas to answer her illogical points. She was so insulting. If I were Doha Debates I would be seriously embarrassed.
Well she did her best…knowing Douglas could and likely WOULD annihilate every opp in there including her bias azz so she just did what she could which was talk over him and not let him finish his points. It was all bush league but it sort of worked although it didn’t make her look very good. 🤷♂️
The female moderator was nothing but rude - interrupting, putting words in Douglas Murray's mouth, and downright biased. Embarrassing. And I have no doubt she was educated in the UK and raised in the West and has never wanted for anything in her life, including the ability to express her speech freely, wear Western clothing, and go wherever she pleases.
What do you expect for someone who both works for the Socialist LSE (birth-giver of numerous Socialist politicians in the UK and abroad), and for the UN. She is a mouthpiece for Globalists and Socialists the World over.
The moderator should be ashamed of herself! Unbelievable that this could be considered a debate. She talked more than any of the participants. I would hope she would resign. Her bias was obvious from the beginning. This is why people do not listen to many Mideast people as they are devoid of rational thinking. “There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” --Soren Kierkegaard
She was fkn insufferable. I understand Qatar is the biggest funder of Hamas, one of the wealthiest countries in the world (per head) and also Ummah. Bizarre these folks want to play the morality card, mind numbing logic as well at times. I do agree with their points about forever wars and IMF debt traps - just leave them alone, stop foreign aid as well.
I don’t understand why the host is so confrontational with only Murry,& keeps interrupting only him. She’s insufferable,& very biased. A host should always remain neutral.
Douglas Murray knows his stuff. He doesn’t suffer fools lightly. He’s far too smart for this woman . He has done his homework she clearly hasn’t. He’s tied her up in knots.
Yoooooooo seriously!!! 💯 true! Oh and btw, I'm a professor myself and higher academia has become INFESTED with these pseudo-intellectuals that are literally just mouthpieces for Marxism. All they do is indoctrinate students. It is disgusting and so tragic honestly, because college is now a disgrace when it was once held in such high regard. I miss the days when we actually TAUGHT our students how to think, not WHAT to think. And if you try to tell me that this "isn't happening" you are either DEEPLY DISHONEST or DEEPLY IGNORANT to what is going on behind the scenes. Teachers across the nation are literally being TRAINED to only teach certain ideologies AND to only teach THROUGH certain ideologies. Meaning, that most of the marxist theories are baked into the pedagogical approaches of Teachers and any kind of criticism or even questioning of these approaches or materials is NOT ALLOWED. Example, you can squawk all day long about how evil whyte people are, and how evil males are, and how America is the devil, and Christians are violent extremists, and that being gay is amazing and that everyone should be trans and we should medically intervene in minors-- you can be as loud as you want about any of this. But the very MOMENT you even stop to slightly question or even just consider any of this, you will be silenced, punished, expelled, or fired. An absolutely acceptable question of "should we allow permanent medical intervention for minors?" becomes "HOW can we better support and provide medical transition to minors".... and you don't see a problem with this? Education USED TO BE about critically examing an issue or topic from a multitude of perspectives. That does not exist any longer on college campuses and this DIRECTLY correlates (and I would argue is CAUSAL) to the exponential increase in wokeism and hyper-left ideologies from college students.
The moderator was completely unprofessional. If you notice, she only interrupted and pushed back against Douglas Murray. She has her agenda and did not want to hear the concerns Murray and Europeans have, just accept refugees and shut up
@@mikeice38 Are u saying that I am a child and one of my parents are paying the other, or that I have a child that I get money for? Both are wrong, but I am more interested in why you even say this? I say that someone is hot, and then you conclude that I am on child support? How does that even remotely connect to what I said? Did you sniff lighter gas or something?
@@stoicqueen8557 first of all gasoline is a nice aroma especially a quarter mile at a time. people often look over red flags if someone is gorgeous that's all I'm saying
@@mikeice38 Soo.. You say that the reason that you tell me that I am on child support, is that I "ignore red flags" because someone is gorgeous? Where are u from? Because there must be some sort of disconnect in our communication that I can't identify
The host is an embarrassment. Douglas made valid points she kept interrupting him. What a joke of show. Quite ironic talking about refugees in a Arab country when the Arabs will not take a single migrant from any other Muslim country.
To sum up: Douglas makes many thoughtful points, the rest of the panel say words in grammatical order, and the moderator tries to club douglas over the head with her shoe.
Moderator is a joke, openly hostile to Mr Murray, in no way impartial whatsoever. Well done to Douglas for standing his ground. As for the whole "well what about migrants who don't like to see people openly drinking alcohol" unfortunately if you move to another country you must respect their rules and their culture
24:33 what on earth does this host think she’s doing? Is she debate opponent or a host? I’m south East Asian from the UK and agree with absolutely everything Douglas said about migration. How people aren’t willing to have serious conversation about this is immature and cowardly.
@@HeverCastle-u6p the worst thing was that it was NOT a debate. The whole thing was suppose to be a cordial discussion. Which made the moderator's behaviour even worse.
I had never heard of this woman before, but she has no idea how to debate. Using sweeping statements, interrupting, pushing a narrative. She clearly has an agenda and not interested in debate at all.
Ms. Fakhry is without a doubt the worst moderator...she barks out question after question without giving Douglas Murray the opportunity to respond...but I suppose this is to be expected as she's not really interested in hearing anything that might debunk her falsehoods and half-truths.
Not really, he knew nothing would happen to him, you misinformed fool. In November Qatar hosted media from all over the word and those media certainly criticised Qatar. But... nothing happened. (Best world cup ever!).
@@OAInbox The OP means he was the only guest or one in the audience to mention the rank hypocrisy on show, not that he feared being locked up for highlighting that.
The UK provides immigrants with welfare, housing, equal citizen rights by law and importantly, free education - If Moslems don't feel represented in the UK professions, then they need to look at their culture and ask why are they so far behind Hindus and Chinese immigrants
Very true. Black and Muslim migrants constantly blame lack of representation for why they are unsuccessful yet the Chinese/Hindus manage to succeed despite having, if anything, even less representation than those two groups. They only ever use white people as a point of reference without ever acknowledging successful minority groups.
This "host" is a joke. Clear bias against Douglas Murray, interruption while he's trying to make his point. Refuses to point out instances she made up in her head where Douglas supposedly said something, which he didn't, he deflects and moves to another topic. Very disingenuous host, bias is definitely seen and heard. What a joke. Props to Murray for standing his ground and pointing out inconsistencies.
Yes.He was bang on,but folks were confusing his wariness of Islam and other cultural practices with racism. No,theres good reason to be keeping an eye on Islam when weve seen the results in the middle East of what happens when it gets a hold of power
absolutely not. He curbed his strong anti Muslim views here because he knew this wouldn't slide in a strong, rich Muslim nation. He is a smart man, but his enmity and misdirection of hatred towards Muslims and Islam holds him back
@AC so the love from the many other Muslim countries surely reached out a lending hand to the Syrian refugees and welcomed them with open arms.... Oh, wait...turns out they didn't. So stfu with your lame ass comment.
The host talking about democracy, in Qatar, an authoritarian country with an unelected, dynastic Emir as it's governmental head, with the 6th highest GDP in the world (and doesn't take in any refugees, but does have a long list of human rights violations, see: FIFA world cup stadium construction), is really ridiculous.
Douglas Murry has huge balls to be the outlier in a huge room full of people who despise him. You can see when he starts talking that everyone has their arms folded and is looking at him with contempt. What a total boss.
It helps that Marc is down about 30 iq points on him.
@@Rallylabs You give Hill too much credit.
Douglas is a rock star
Douglas is a bitch who supported every war in the destabilised region. Wants to bomb countries but doesn't want to accept the repercussions. Neo con loser
@@mustafaalawad8348 Even without western interventionism, the Middle East would not be a peaceful, thriving place. Women's genitals would continue to be mutilated, Muslims would still oppress ethnic minorities, gays would continue to be thrown off of rooftops, and women would still be slayed in honor killings. It would not be all rainbows and sunshine.
Wow, what an outrageously biased debate! Full marks to Douglas Murray for remaining calm and rational in the face of brazen rudeness and provocation!
To be [un]fair, he definitely didn't have Homecourt advantage in this case. (read : Doha, Qatar).
One against four "and they're still afraid of him" ... He wiped the floor with them... The number of lies proceeding from the group about security threats & crime coming with refugees was unbelievable... And that's just one point... Their hypocritical ignorance when it came to so-called "colonization" & the so-called "white savior" was unbelievable too... Considering they're discussing what predominantly "white" nations should be doing in helping predominantly "brown & black" nations... You can't be that demanding of "white" people's help & then ridicule the fact that "white" people are helping... The whole thing was ludicrous from start to finish... Agreed that Douglass was a legend in that debate... They're lucky he didn't get the chance to open up on them... You can tell he had much more to say.
@@rigelb9025 It's nothing to do with "homecourt advantage" Douglas is well used to debating in a hostile crowd... But you've got "four" people on that stage "including the host" making one argument, while you have only "one" person in Douglass Murry making the other argument to a crowd who's in complete agreement with the "four"... That's not a fair debate by anyone's standards... Yet he still won... They resorted to misinformed slander about so-called "colonization & white saviors" then proceeded to outright lie about the crime statistics & security threat coming with open doors & so-called refugees... Then to laugh at the freedom of speech being attacked when Douglas made the point while talking about freedom of expression when it comes to minority rights against the majority in the host nations... The outrageous intentional ignorance & hypocrisy of the pro-open borders crowd was astounding.
@@solideogloria...7421 That's pretty much what I meant when I said he was at a disadvantage, ESPECIALLY considering where this debate was held.
The debate is in English. That is the point. For their views to reach English speaking people. The pushback is from their point of view and both speakers got pushback. Murray a bit more. Wasn't his best performance but he was in a hostile environment. It's clear to me globalism is not sustainable. We need decentralized municipalism. Where we keep our cultures intact. Right now we have open borders for commerce and closed borders for labor. That's exploitation.
Woman: "Douglas you suggest that" "You suggest" "You make the suggestion that"
Douglas: "When did I suggest that?"
Woman: Moves to next point straight away.
What a vile woman, completely clueless and out of her depth 😂
It's like the Newman effect when Cathy Newman interviewed Jordan Peterson... "So you're saying..."
You haven't been to many Arab countries have you. It shows.
@@BonRain8734 if you lived in Arab countries you would know they talk like this all the time. It's not abnormal. This is how they debate. Your panties in a bunch makes me laugh
@@1848revolt For a nomad that's possibly turned native, you have a vigorously nationalistic European name, old bean!
because he strongly implies and then denies! woah look at that, that rhymes!
I cannot believe how arrogant and rude that women is 🤦🏼♀️💁🏼♀️
yupp.. make me respect douglas even more.. what a class act
The irony of this being hosted in Qatar when they take pretty much zero refugees while having the funds, plus being much closer culturally to accept them.
+ the thousands of human rights violations that nobody seems to talk about anymore
Another subject that was touched upon was democracy, also a bit ironic.
Yup exactly! And yet they LOVE to sit around and insult and condemn the West for only taking in 300k or a million lolzzzzz
Not only that. They also hold immigrants like slaves with barely any rights. Ask their Philipino maids or their Nepalese construction workers
@@boredsobad 💯% yes! I found that actually annoying. Loved that dig Douglas got in at the end, asking the audience how many refugees they take in
Douglas Murray won this debate hands down. Objective, practical, honest. Logical, factual. Worst debate host that I have ever witnessed.
Absolutely, she thinks that speaking incredibly fast over people, is clever. She has NO Class.
Considering what Country Douglas Murray was in, his answers were INCREDIBLY BRAVE and TRUE without Wishing to cause insult. He spoke from his heart and the Audience SQUIRMED.
Douglas is a legend, should be UK PM and I'm indian Asian saying that
I am sure pretty much every rational person in India would side with Douglas any day of the year
💯 I would LOVE to see Douglas as a political leader, even though I'm American. The West in general needs people like him!!!
Riiiiggghhttt?!
I've always liked Douglas Murray, but my respect for him just shot up . To be able to clearly articulate your views when you have a confrontational moderator and a whole panel and audience that disagrees with you must be SO difficult. Nevermind that he can make respectful quips, convey his points without missing a beat, challenge the audience is just objectively really commendable.
He is a master debater. Learnt from the best - Christopher Hitchens
absolutely not. He curbed his strong anti Muslim views here because he knew this wouldn't slide in a strong, rich Muslim nation. He is a smart man, but his enmity and misdirection of hatred towards Muslims and Islam holds him back
@@AC-mp7cx lol shit attempt to discredit the guy. Please point out any anti Muslim rhetoric from any of his books, many newspaper columns or debates. I'll wait...
@@AC-mp7cx Time number 4 with your copy and paste...
@@AC-mp7cx Try curbing the violence/not murdering cartoonists and treating women/homosexuals better and the civilized world will be a whole lot more receptive to your currently thoroughly backwards religion.
How ironic that such a debate was held in Qatar.
How many people did Qatar take in during the refugee crisis?
I can't find a number, the only thing I can find is the estimated deaths from migrant workers during the world cup.
What a shambles.
"How many Syrian refugees did Qatar take, maybe it is something worth thinking about here"? Gotta love Mr Murray.
So Qatar is the barometer of human rights? By the way Jordan gave refuge to millions of Syrian refugees so did Lebanon and Turkey which makes your whole argument just as fictitious as your attempt to mask your racism and bigotry.
@@aamnahere6250 Why is it bigot and racist to remind a bunch of Qataris that they are the last people on earth to give lessons to the West when it comes to refugees and citizenship? By the way, Turkey is one of the reasons why Syrians have to flee...
@@tomasmccauley569 And? What's your point?
Fyi if you are a Qatari women that chose to marry a non Qatari guy. Her children arent eligible in getting the passport. Qatar is a hypocrite for not taking refugees while it's one of the richest country in the world
@@aamnahere6250 Douglas was responding to the moderator pointing the finger at the West for not taking enough refugees,while ignoring the lack of aid from 'some' countries on Syrias doorstep,eg Qatar.Show me why thats racist?
Douglas did a wonderful job calling out the hypocrisy of Qatar. How can they criticize the West when they haven't taken in any refugees?
they have more immigrants per capita do they not? Imagine Britain with 1.1 million immigrants.... they scream '' invaaaaasion '' with a mere 1.1% change in immigration in 2015 - , just imagine 60 million afraid like - that is fragile - in comparison to 60 - 80 percent immigrants in some of these middle eastern countries and still they have low crime rates, much much lower than britain's - Do Europe get the 'bad eggs' ? or is their treatment of them disgusting? I was in Austria recently - 10 years these people are just sitting there on government assistance as they aren't allowed to even work and make something for themselves - how can one justify this? then when crime starts - they start the narrative " immigrants causing crime rates to rise this past year etc etc " - not " 10 years and still no papers for these people who came to seek asylum, being forced to feed their children with drug money and hidden underground markets , Austrian government still has no answers, how long can this go on for? How long can we keep the public blind t o this?"
Well the ones they do take in end up being slaves for their construction projects anyway.
But they didn't sign up to take refugees is a pretty valid arguement if we are being fair. It's our own fault for getting ourselves into this situation
Worse, they follow an Arab supremacist cult that was forced to stop slavery in 1952 and following the supremacist cult of Islam they discriminate against non Ms in law.
So, this accusation that the West needs to be more accommodating is a joke.
@@stevepickford3004 True, but it if it is a question of morals as the host suggested then why they are not taking them in should be challenged.
A moderator with an obviously humongous vested interest in the debate... how surprising.
Douglas handled it with style and grace, bless his soul.
She was so aggressive it made watching the debate very uncomfortable.
@@marwar819 not aggressive in her tone at all
Moderator is a disgrace in terms of her conduct, and not neutral as a moderator should be.
Douglass is on an entirely different level of intelligence, knowledge, wisdom and nuance. Moderator isn't a moderator, she's an activist.
nuance which leads to bigotry, apparently
@@AC-mp7cx You've misused the word so much it means nothing now. You've called everyone bigot when only very few are, and certainly not Douglas. You don't even know how stupid you are. This is the recent mistake of the West. You are no longer taught that humility is a virtue. Then you get too many stupid people thinking they're smart all day when even smart people get things wrong...
@@AC-mp7cx Just because someone is calling you Muslims out on your violent bullshit doesn't make people bigoted.
An activist of what?
@@tomorrowneverdies567 Doesn't even really matter. What matters is she showed how biased she is when she's supposed to be there to be as unbiased as possible in an event that's supposed to present the merits of every position present. She failed to do so. Activist means she failed to do her job properly.
This debate was infuriating to listen to, the gall to suggest the west is an intolerant nightmare while sitting in Qatar is actually insane. How tolerant would the gulf states be if the west moved to their countries by the millions? Douglas was the only intact brain stem in the room.
These hypocrites WOULDN'T let people move into them by the millions! 2.6 million people live in Qatar and only, 313,000 of them are Qatari citizens and you can only get a passport if you prove you have Qatari descent...
@@rsr789 exactly
They don’t even want fellow Muslim to move to their country while criticising Europe
Yeah I rolled my eyes so hard I can see my brain on fire listening to this shyt.
The moderator certainly shows her bias and rude manners.
how nasty the moderator treated Mr Murray was absolutely disgraceful. She didnt even let him answer the questions and misrepresentation of his statements that he was bombarded with. and with good reason she wouldnt let him speak: he would have made her look like an imbecile
Douglas, out numbered but not out gunned or out classed. He dominates, as usual.
He is the smartest on the panel
How can one dominate shadow pictures on a wall?
True to form.
That fairy is a fascist who represents the very destructive legacy of the west. Is his view that's led us to where we are.
absolutely not. He curbed his strong anti Muslim views here because he knew this wouldn't slide in a strong, rich Muslim nation. He is a smart man, but his enmity and misdirection of hatred towards Muslims and Islam holds him back
If the alcohol and speedo loving tax payers of England are so awful, why do you still want to come? I detected an awful lot of snobbery coming from the moderator and her friends.
The entire panel is insufferable, arrogant to high heavens.
If this is what educated Muslim migrants/citizens think like, imagine the average Muslim/migrant
💯
Came here only for Douglas Murray.. He makes sense.. The others just kept pandering the victim cards...
I'm an immigrant from Mexico to the U.S. It is not racist to think that I, as an immigrant going to another country, should adapt and accept the culture that I'm moving to. Not the other way around. Of course people shouldn't be racist or bigoted in any way, but if a westerner was to move to China or Saudi Arabia, they would not just be expected but demanded to adapt to those cultures.
Why is it in the West the same can't be asked of immigrants coming here? Instead, racism is used as an excuse to shut down the conversation of British, American or Australians for example, to have the right to keep their own cultures.
I would not want Mexico to be de-mexicanized if you will. Mexico has a beautiful culture and should have the right to keep that culture without apology.
The moderator is insufferable. Constantly interrupting Douglas who speaks with logic.
Douglass holds his own incredibly well and comes out like a champ. The moderator pulls every cheap trick in the book.
No. Your just mad that your ideology got defeated
@@mania4270 No. The moderator was rather combative against Murray and the videos which were played showed a clear bias against his postion. Also it speaks ill of you by assuming the original poster has an "Ideology" by just going off of what he said in the original comment.
@@lukeappleberry827 the moderator wasnt rude. If you seem like you're going off on tangent, the moderator has to stop you before you start to ramble. He was rambling at one point. Lastly, his position was dangerous to let his talking points be displayed. Its like having someone justify their racism, it kinda doesnt matter at that point. He literally said you should listen to the ppl who have a problem with immigration, like just hear them out. Im paraphrasing a bit there. But the reason why its bullshit its because the opinion of a citizen about whether someone enters their country doesnt matter. If I want to live in america or where ever, its none of your business. So moderator cut him off because nonsense like that leads to unintelligent debates like the one im having now
Okay, firstly nothing Murray said was racist. I understand that's a common buzzword for people to spit out when they encounter an idea that differs from their own, but as states previously nothing he said could be termed "racist" as you describe it. Secondly for you to say that citizens of a country do not have the right to say who does or doesn't enter their country via immigration is asinine. Thirdly but not lastly this only goes to show how you feel and are very much the ideologue you portrayed the original poster to be. Now finally this is not a debate, simply me explaining to a misguided troll how their opinion is junk.
"His positions were dangerous to let his talking points be displayed." That's the problem I take issue with the most from your comments as basically your saying that if you don't like what someone has to say then it is okay to silence them. If you can't recognize the error in that judgement then you my friend are lost. Everyone should be allowed to speak their opinion freely, period. Especially when said opinion is in the form of a debate, as this is. Cause in a debate people are allowed to express their ideas to others in a free and open forum. That's hard to do when a moderator of said debate clearly favors one side of the arguement and is combative to the other.
Let's just agree here: Douglas Murray is real as it gets!
4 against Douglas and he still makes more sense.
He makes zero sense. It was great seeing Doug struggle and feel like the victim here. I have bookmarked the video.
@@jjruss8238 Douglas struggle?!?! 😂😂
Douglas is the most articulate, more knowledgable!@@jjruss8238
Cope Harder jjruss
@@jjruss8238dude don’t show your ignorance
Has anyone noticed how the host keeps interrupting only Murray but doesn’t do it with others? And they say racism flows only one way 🙄
Yes I noticed. She was deliberately antagonistic 👎
Is it racism or that she doesn't agree with his opinion?
Yes. She had an agenda... it failed dismally.
@@Enceladus007 she liked the sound of her own voice!!
uh hundred percent
Every single debate Douglas is in on a multi-panel, the audience questions are hugely directed to him. Why? Because he talks sense and challenges.
wow this host is so wrong for this discussion , so biased, she would not let Douglas finish a single line
which means.. hes correct
This was no debate; it was pro-refugee propaganda.
how sad it is that such an important debate is ruined by such a bad moderator.
Whoever gave Ghida Fakhry this job should be fired, because it's clear Ghida doesn't understand how a moderator should behave.
She manipulates words, ignores everything that is outside her understanding or opinion and asks questions, but does not let them be answered, a 10 year old debater can do better than her and it is such a shame that such an important topic was destroyed and swept under the table that today, 5 years later, we are only now beginning to open our eyes to it… I hop that we Will never forget this exemplar of how Ghida Fakhry with her ignorance, creates a wrong understanding of incredibly important and good opportunities.
@@LadyMaab well put.
The moderator clearly departed the pretence of impartiality during the cross examination of Douglas Murray. Her treatment of him, relative to the other two participants, was absolutely shameful.
In other words-- she was a pompous bit*h.
He dismantled her.
If you love far right wing neo Nazis, then, sure, be respectful to Douglas. If you hate far right neo Nazi kunts, then Murray deserves all the respect he gets, which is none.
I agree. For a few minutes there, I assumed the mod was one of the debate panelists, as I was listening only, not watching. Aren't mods supposed to, idk...moderate..? as opposed to eviscerate? Not that she did it well, mind you (the evisceration), but she sure tried!
@@amandamcgovern5744 He always does. Douglas is a true gem in the political world, imho
This panel is bananas. 😂 Douglas is the only person not living in an fantasy.
Moderator was disrespectful, unprofessional and combatative.
I have no interest in watching the rest of the debate.
This really did not age well. Douglas Murray had to put up with that horrible woman constantly putting words in his mouth that he did not say and then talking over him. The only person worth listening to was Douglas.
I dont think you can call her a moderator
She's a parody of a moderator.
Agitator?
Douglas Murray is not one of the only true intellectuals in the world right now, but also incredibly brave.
I think "only" should be placed before "one". Maybe put "few" in front of "true".
Exactly this!
Yes, Absolutely right
absolutely not. He curbed his strong anti Muslim views here because he knew this wouldn't slide in a strong, rich Muslim nation. He is a smart man, but his enmity and misdirection of hatred towards Muslims and Islam holds him back
@@AC-mp7cx you're a joke
The moderator is painful obstacle to an honest exchange. Frightful Fakhry
Fahkry LOL. I agree
Honestly I just want to hear Douglas Murray finishing a response. This was not a debate nor a discussion. It was simply Ghida Fakhry launching bias statements one after another with a clear purpose to attack Douglas Murray, even putting words in his mouth. She did not seem to be asking the questions in good faith or wanting any actual answers. It is a huge shame, and extremely unfair to the audience who wants equal and respectful discussion that illustrates ideas from both sides.
The amount of mind numbing stupidity in this debate. How did Douglas Murray went through this all the way is beyond me. This is incredible.
Mph os M*******
Once I saw the panel, I knew this was a setup against Murray, but he managed to make his points.
you judged them based off appearances nice
@@AC-mp7cx was he wrong? We all judge based on appearances to some degree.
not just managed, he won the debate
57:39 She says, "There is something called democracy though? Elections.", in response to Douglas examples of Iran, Russia, Saudi & China.
Stunning stupidity.
The problem is that it is not just her ignorance but her agenda.
Strange Doha holding a debate on refugees when they don’t take any....
@@petronellajackson8986 they don’t have to
Oh my god that answer 🤦♂️
Ghida dug a hole and fell straight into it, she should think before attempting opening her mouth
Next time the organizers should do better. Ms. Ghida Fakhry was really disrupting Douglas Murray many times - something she did not do with the others. This was very unfair and clearly nowhere close to neutral. But I have to admit that most of the time Murray was up to the task anyway. He had the best, most rational and balanced arguments.
The moderator is unbelievable in her interruptions to Douglas. You can challenge his points I suppose (but then sort of cease to be a "moderator surely) but as host at least have the grace to let him finish talking. Just plain unprofessional from a moderator to a guest.
She wasn't acting in the capacity of a moderator towards Douglas. She was attempting to attack him, using her position as leverage. It had the effect of making the whole thing a farce, and you can see the bemusement on Douglas' face, at that point he knows it's a waste of time.
there is nothing more fragile than a racists being challenged
That was spectacular from Douglas. Absolutely shameful from the moderator, she is truly an insult to open honest discussion.
I was surprised to see her shameful disgraceful behaviour as a moderator… I hope her career took a crash after this…
Worse was the audience. Have a look how they are disrespectfully sniggering and laughing!
@@Edgeoftown There is no audience for real intellectual debate there. They came to see Murray destroyed and they are deaf to the points he made.
Dear Ghida Fakhry, the concept of moderating a debate does not mean that because with a sweat and low voice, you actually bring something clever. Putting words, intentions, judgments and morals in your guest instead of letting them to speak out is the worst thing someone can do in a debate. It is a good thing that people were allowed to speak 4-5min before having a 'conversation' with you, otherwise the waste of time would have been total. At least, some of them put you at your place before you could ashamed yourself even more. Please, change for a more accurate job for you.
Can't she shut up and let Douglas explain himself ? Awful and unprofessional behavior .
Oh my god, that "host" is insufferable. She asks Murray a question then constantly interrupts him, shifts the goalposts as he’s speaking, gives a weird “aha, gotcha” snide comment then moves straight to the next question without him even being able to get a sentence out. How did she even get the job? The role of a debate host is to be an impartial moderator, not bombard your guests with childish traps to push your own agenda. I felt like throwing my laptop out the window while watching this. What an awful woman.
That's got the finger prints of the editors from Al Jazeera. Complete propaganda machine
I’m a refugee that resettled in the U.S. Every country has a right to sovereignty. Protect your borders and screen every single person before allowing them in. The current residents have priority for safety over foreign nationals waiting to get in. If you’re going to live in another country, you should assimilate and adapt to your new country that takes you in. If you’re going to hate the new country’s culture and values, you should move on and go to another country with similar culture and values. Don’t try to change anything. Do not try to make your host country similar to the place you left behind.
Wow 👏 👏 👏 see, you are the exact kind of refugee/immigrant that we LOVE AND WELCOME! America is soooooooo much more accepting and welcoming of immigrants than ANY OTHER COUNTRY! And yet, all we ask is that you come here and respect our country, respect our culture, learn the language, and contribute. If you do that, then you are a fellow AMERICAN!
Douglas Murray did very well considering the entire debate panel ( even the moderator) was against him. They even had pre prepared videos and kept putting words into his mouth all while the audience followed along with all their talking points.
Big respect to him
absolutely not. He curbed his strong anti Muslim views here because he knew this wouldn't slide in a strong, rich Muslim nation. He is a smart man, but his enmity and misdirection of hatred towards Muslims and Islam holds him back
@@AC-mp7cx he spoke nothing but the truth. I noticed you didn’t call him out on specific things he said, you just applied arbitrary labels to him and said he hated Muslims. Reasonable criticism of an old and intolerant religious system in serious need of reform does not entail hatred or enmity towards those who believe in it.
@@AC-mp7cx Wow you actually made it to double figures with your copy and paste. You are an embarrassment.
@@AC-mp7cx Why are Chrisian symbols banned in the exterior of churches in Qatar? Why are Christian missionaries banned?
@@okyes5671 Funny how you couldnt do precisely what you accused me of. It's easy to call Islam xyz, as you did, hard to actually call it out on specifics, without lack of context and arguing in poor taste
The moderator clearly had an agenda and was biased…. Am glad Douglas stayed on point …
She's rude, she has her own agenda. Sadly, she clearly hasn't done her homework research, she gets quite nasty when losing the argument. Also she trys to put words in his mouth. Not a good person to do a debate.
Murray boy went in alone and finished the crusade without a single bloodshed. Huge respect
Crusade. Hell yeahhh 😂
Man Douglas is such a killer. Wish he debated more.
This video should have way more views.
absolutely not. He curbed his strong anti Muslim views here because he knew this wouldn't slide in a strong, rich Muslim nation. He is a smart man, but his enmity and misdirection of hatred towards Muslims and Islam holds him back
She starts every strawman and misinterpretation of Douglas’s words with “you suggest that… “
Truly the Cathy Newman of Qatar
@@AC-mp7cx nice counter argument
@@AC-mp7cx Time number 7 with your copy and paste...
@@AC-mp7cx it’s not even a good paragraph.
I fully agree with the comments. I hated how the the moderator constantly interrupted Mr Douglas. Yes i understand it was a debate but she could have let him finish make his point.
douglas asking audience "how many syrians have you made citizens of qatar?" is just the nail in the coffin for all this panel. watching the audience hold back or hide their smiles is priceless
I get the scary feeling theyre laughing at him and not listening.
@@pela907 you may be right. But let's be positive
Just finished watching, I'm a son of a refugee family in London and i agree with Mr Murray a billion percent
Thank you and God bless you! See what people don't realize is that we LOVE AND WELCOME refugees and migrants like you and your family! We WANT a fair, healthy amount of immigration of people that WANT to celebrate and support our nation. I don't understand why it is so "criminal" to not want to bring in people that DON'T LIKE our country?? It makes no sense lolz.
She is so very, very dreadful, I couldn’t stand to listen to her constant interruptions and subjective gibes. Douglas Murray, as usual, intelligence and common sense personified.
Very very nasty
Jesus Christ this was painful to watch
Props to Douglas for his patience
Qatar talking about human rights & refugees. What a joke!
Yea actually i kinda forgot that Qatar was being run by a bearded man
@@natalievu4399 An oxymoron in the extreme 😅
@@natalievu4399 like North Korea talking about peace 😂
The moderator was WAY too biased against Douglas, I personally have noticed this with people like herself. The intelilectual laziness of not being able to put someone in a box leaves you with infinite assumtions about what that person believes. We clearly saw her make point after point about Douglas' beliefs that he flat out denied. Less biased moderators needed please.
She was clearly educated by woke educators and has a critical social justice world view. Insufferable.
A total misread of this thing. If you have ever lived in Arab countries you might understand this more. They debate everywhere. On the streets barber shops coffee shops. Virtually everywhere. And they are aggressive debaters.
@@1848revolt Funny how she is only aggressive with one panel member. No one needs your, "if you have ever" comment like people can't see the obvious.
@@1848revolt Spirited dialogue doesn't exclude internationally recognised etiquette. Moral disdain for the West appears to be the consensus in Doha, as is basic slavery in Qatar.
@@1848revolt Yes they are master-debaters.
18:13 Douglas Murray's Speech
24:26 1st moderator's confrontation
55:00 1st question to Murray
1:00:05 2nd moderator's confrontation
1:09:06 3rd moderator's confrontation
1:12:52 Murray's intervention
1:13:59 2nd question to Murray
1:18:53 Murray's final toughts
*Note* It is important for everyone to listen to the whole debate, but Douglas Murray was the only person in that auditorium who showed a clarity of thought worth mentioning.
No he was terrible. Nothing but what aboutisms and way too long winded to actually make a legit point
Thank you.
@@mania4270 are you stupid? He is the only one with insight and wisdom to the actual crisis
@@mania4270 lmao, you're a hypocrite
@@Powerhaus88 how? I'm just pointing out his flawed logic. He has ya brainwashed
Wow, the amount that the interviewer interrupted Douglas was insane. Imagine being up against 4 opponents in a debate and not allowed to make any points.
I have to say… the host was terrible. She only tried to nitpick Douglas because she didn’t agree but just ate up everyone that fit her narrative to make her feel like she has moral high ground.
The host should be sacked. She seems to think the job of a host is to speak more than the panelists. She was incredibly unprofessional. She was employing all kinds of logical fallacies. She wouldn't allow Douglas to answer her illogical points. She was so insulting. If I were Doha Debates I would be seriously embarrassed.
Well she did her best…knowing Douglas could and likely WOULD annihilate every opp in there including her bias azz so she just did what she could which was talk over him and not let him finish his points. It was all bush league but it sort of worked although it didn’t make her look very good. 🤷♂️
The female moderator was nothing but rude - interrupting, putting words in Douglas Murray's mouth, and downright biased. Embarrassing. And I have no doubt she was educated in the UK and raised in the West and has never wanted for anything in her life, including the ability to express her speech freely, wear Western clothing, and go wherever she pleases.
What do you expect for someone who both works for the Socialist LSE (birth-giver of numerous Socialist politicians in the UK and abroad), and for the UN. She is a mouthpiece for Globalists and Socialists the World over.
Douglas Murray is just fantastic!
She is hand down the WORST moderator I've ever seen. She won't stop interrupting
The moderator should be ashamed of herself! Unbelievable that this could be considered a debate. She talked more than any of the participants. I would hope she would resign. Her bias was obvious from the beginning. This is why people do not listen to many Mideast people as they are devoid of rational thinking.
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” --Soren Kierkegaard
She was fkn insufferable.
I understand Qatar is the biggest funder of Hamas, one of the wealthiest countries in the world (per head) and also Ummah. Bizarre these folks want to play the morality card, mind numbing logic as well at times.
I do agree with their points about forever wars and IMF debt traps - just leave them alone, stop foreign aid as well.
Surprise surprise, this is held in Qatar, one of the region's largest supporter of terrorism.
Douglas Murray vs. an echo chamber of virtue-signalers.
I don’t understand why the host is so confrontational with only Murry,& keeps interrupting only him. She’s insufferable,& very biased. A host should always remain neutral.
envy
except Douglas, who is the only brutally honest person in the panel, the hypocrisy of the rest of the people there is just appalling.
Douglas Murray knows his stuff. He doesn’t suffer fools lightly. He’s far too smart for this woman . He has done his homework she clearly hasn’t. He’s tied her up in knots.
Professor Mark Hill. He represents everything wrong with higher education in the US.
Such as? Enlighten us please.
Yoooooooo seriously!!! 💯 true! Oh and btw, I'm a professor myself and higher academia has become INFESTED with these pseudo-intellectuals that are literally just mouthpieces for Marxism. All they do is indoctrinate students. It is disgusting and so tragic honestly, because college is now a disgrace when it was once held in such high regard. I miss the days when we actually TAUGHT our students how to think, not WHAT to think. And if you try to tell me that this "isn't happening" you are either DEEPLY DISHONEST or DEEPLY IGNORANT to what is going on behind the scenes. Teachers across the nation are literally being TRAINED to only teach certain ideologies AND to only teach THROUGH certain ideologies. Meaning, that most of the marxist theories are baked into the pedagogical approaches of Teachers and any kind of criticism or even questioning of these approaches or materials is NOT ALLOWED. Example, you can squawk all day long about how evil whyte people are, and how evil males are, and how America is the devil, and Christians are violent extremists, and that being gay is amazing and that everyone should be trans and we should medically intervene in minors-- you can be as loud as you want about any of this. But the very MOMENT you even stop to slightly question or even just consider any of this, you will be silenced, punished, expelled, or fired. An absolutely acceptable question of "should we allow permanent medical intervention for minors?" becomes "HOW can we better support and provide medical transition to minors".... and you don't see a problem with this?
Education USED TO BE about critically examing an issue or topic from a multitude of perspectives. That does not exist any longer on college campuses and this DIRECTLY correlates (and I would argue is CAUSAL) to the exponential increase in wokeism and hyper-left ideologies from college students.
The moderator was completely unprofessional. If you notice, she only interrupted and pushed back against Douglas Murray. She has her agenda and did not want to hear the concerns Murray and Europeans have, just accept refugees and shut up
That’s because Douglas is the biggest threat to their manipulative propaganda in trying to shame the west into letting them leach from them forever.
Damn. Douglas really going into the lion’s den there.
Because he's a warrior
That's no lion den. It's hyena layer.
Help me
I know right? It was like 400-1. Fortunately he’s a badass.
@@fahadnazir3912 no
Not a great moderator. She needs to stop interrupting people. She ends up having a mini debate within the debate.
What a biased moderator....she clearly has no interest in anything but her view that is not moderation....she likes those who have her view
@@stoicqueen8557 now I see why their prophet had many wives. Who wouldn't when such women are around? 😂
@@stoicqueen8557 I think we all know who's on child support you lol
@@mikeice38 Are u saying that I am a child and one of my parents are paying the other, or that I have a child that I get money for? Both are wrong, but I am more interested in why you even say this? I say that someone is hot, and then you conclude that I am on child support? How does that even remotely connect to what I said? Did you sniff lighter gas or something?
@@stoicqueen8557 first of all gasoline is a nice aroma especially a quarter mile at a time. people often look over red flags if someone is gorgeous that's all I'm saying
@@mikeice38 Soo.. You say that the reason that you tell me that I am on child support, is that I "ignore red flags" because someone is gorgeous? Where are u from? Because there must be some sort of disconnect in our communication that I can't identify
You don’t have to like Murray to know this was unfair. The host was bias & didn’t let him talk.
Europeans and Americans bad. That’s the hosts opinion.
The host is an embarrassment. Douglas made valid points she kept interrupting him. What a joke of show.
Quite ironic talking about refugees in a Arab country when the Arabs will not take a single migrant from any other Muslim country.
To sum up: Douglas makes many thoughtful points, the rest of the panel say words in grammatical order, and the moderator tries to club douglas over the head with her shoe.
Can y'all get an actual moderator, instead of this person who is biased in favor of one side so much so that she interrupts Douglas Murray constantly?
It's only fair that there be a handicap system. Marc Lamont Hill is at least two tiers below Murray in skill level.
Moderator is a joke, openly hostile to Mr Murray, in no way impartial whatsoever. Well done to Douglas for standing his ground. As for the whole "well what about migrants who don't like to see people openly drinking alcohol" unfortunately if you move to another country you must respect their rules and their culture
24:33 what on earth does this host think she’s doing? Is she debate opponent or a host?
I’m south East Asian from the UK and agree with absolutely everything Douglas said about migration. How people aren’t willing to have serious conversation about this is immature and cowardly.
So this “debate” happened in Qatar. The country which would not ACCEPT ANY REFUGEES. And does not accept human rights either.
Exactly.
Why wld you borher wasting your time to debate anything over there.
How many refugees does Qatar take in. .??
@@HeverCastle-u6p the worst thing was that it was NOT a debate. The whole thing was suppose to be a cordial discussion.
Which made the moderator's behaviour even worse.
How many slaves did Doha use to build that beautiful building?
Exactly!
they are still working🤣
None.
Why the hell would their be slaves in qatar
Not as many as the West has
Downvote isn’t for Doug. It’s for the moderater. She’s incredibly bias and hostile for no reason.
Douglas came in like a medieval knight wielding the English language like a sword.
Funnily enough it did remind me a bit of the crusades lol
@@garethmccartan3636 how so?
@@garethmccartan3636 hahaha! Nah I get it now. He's a questing knight fighting back against the Muslim invasion of Europe. Lol
Hahaha well said!
Brilliant 👏
I had never heard of this woman before, but she has no idea how to debate. Using sweeping statements, interrupting, pushing a narrative. She clearly has an agenda and not interested in debate at all.
Douglas Murray is the only sensible man in this conversation
Ms. Fakhry is without a doubt the worst moderator...she barks out question after question without giving Douglas Murray the opportunity to respond...but I suppose this is to be expected as she's not really interested in hearing anything that might debunk her falsehoods and half-truths.
And her SMUG and MEAN attitude !! She does not have an atom of honesty, impartiality and objectivity.
I mean she used to work at Al Jazeera. So Islamic mouthpiece
Wow Douglas has balls calling out Qatar for accepting no Syrians...
Only facts. We should all be like that.
...or Iraqis ...or Afghans ...or Somalis
An inconvenient truth for sure!
Not really, he knew nothing would happen to him, you misinformed fool. In November Qatar hosted media from all over the word and those media certainly criticised Qatar. But... nothing happened. (Best world cup ever!).
@@OAInbox The OP means he was the only guest or one in the audience to mention the rank hypocrisy on show, not that he feared being locked up for highlighting that.
The UK provides immigrants with welfare, housing, equal citizen rights by law and importantly, free education - If Moslems don't feel represented in the UK professions, then they need to look at their culture and ask why are they so far behind Hindus and Chinese immigrants
Very true. Black and Muslim migrants constantly blame lack of representation for why they are unsuccessful yet the Chinese/Hindus manage to succeed despite having, if anything, even less representation than those two groups. They only ever use white people as a point of reference without ever acknowledging successful minority groups.
Go Douglas the only sane person in the room.
This "host" is a joke. Clear bias against Douglas Murray, interruption while he's trying to make his point. Refuses to point out instances she made up in her head where Douglas supposedly said something, which he didn't, he deflects and moves to another topic.
Very disingenuous host, bias is definitely seen and heard. What a joke. Props to Murray for standing his ground and pointing out inconsistencies.
This whole debate was some arab wet dream to bash the developed world. The women who lead the panel are beyond ridiculous.... what a joke of a debate.
Douglas Murray's words were proven true... a discussion we are very bad at having! Shocking moderator! Absolutely shocking!
Yes.He was bang on,but folks were confusing his wariness of Islam and other cultural practices with racism. No,theres good reason to be keeping an eye on Islam when weve seen the results in the middle East of what happens when it gets a hold of power
@@MrSilverbirch get a clue
@@almostafa4725 says the ignorant clown
This was one of the worst debate I saw. Douglas Murray was the only one who wasn't clouded by stupid ideologies.
As usual Douglas is on point. How he puts up with the host and the other panelists is beyond me.
Douglas Murray is hero for so many. I pray he never stops standing up. He is hero for the western world
This fascist fairy is a hero to like minded people, tbank God the west is collapsing. The world will know some peace.
absolutely not. He curbed his strong anti Muslim views here because he knew this wouldn't slide in a strong, rich Muslim nation. He is a smart man, but his enmity and misdirection of hatred towards Muslims and Islam holds him back
@@AC-mp7cx Time number 9 with your copy and paste...
@AC so the love from the many other Muslim countries surely reached out a lending hand to the Syrian refugees and welcomed them with open arms....
Oh, wait...turns out they didn't.
So stfu with your lame ass comment.
The host talking about democracy, in Qatar, an authoritarian country with an unelected, dynastic Emir as it's governmental head, with the 6th highest GDP in the world (and doesn't take in any refugees, but does have a long list of human rights violations, see: FIFA world cup stadium construction), is really ridiculous.
What an utter waste of time. The lady keeps cutting off Douglas Murray. Fast-talking car salesman lady.