Immigration is Bad For Britain | Douglas Murray
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- Опубліковано 30 січ 2014
- Douglas Murray gives his argument that there is too much immigration in Britain.
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Douglas Murray raises the point that the argument often used for immigration is that there are jobs that British people will not do, he says that this is racist. He quotes statistics from studies showing that the British people think that there is too much immigration happening in the UK. He concludes by saying that immigration isn't the problem but it's the speed of immigration that is.
Filmed on Thursday 23rd January 2014
MOTION: This House Believes postwar Britain has seen too much immigration.
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"Immigration is Bad For Britain" isn't what he argued. What he argued, and argued correctly, is that "Mass Immigration is Bad For Britain"
Correct.
The motion is the motion.
+RP FS2 I take this opportunity to really thank for you making that distinction amongst this swarming ignorance.
+JJ H "majority of the racist crap people are crudely writing in the comments section." Sigh, grow some thicker skin honey or GTFO ;).................
Correct. The Oxford Union often do pretty misleading motions.
8 years on and sadly this warning has fallen on deaf ears.
you only have yourselves to blame.
@@FM-dm8xj brits are not rebellious, we are not that diff from the germans
@@europaeclipse8171 Fair enough, australians and european nations are similiar. Only America is different imo.
Was Mr Powell correct!
@@stephenbaker5593 Yes.
I’m immigrant and I agree with his words, it’s not about saying NO to all immigration. It’s about having a proper functioning system
It should be saying no to 99% of immigration. Legalizing only makes the massive influx of immigrants legal. It doesn't change the fact that natives are being replaced, even if it is legal.
Something I'm always baffled with is when people are okay with being replaced demographically as long as it's legal. Same argument I hear from people who complain about being replaced by Hispanics demographically in the states, but on the same issue say they're okay with immigration, it just has to be legal. You're being replaced either way.
That's right. In my country now there are seeeeas of afgan, nepal, indonesian workers... And imagine when they give them a job where they have to drive? They bought their lisence in their country, for Indonesia I know that for a fact that you just drive once for 5mins and pay lots of money and you are a driver. How can a person like that drive a bus full of people safely in European standards of driving?
@@feudinggreeks3316 I don’t really understand your point on legal immigration. I’m an integrated immigrant who happened to born in a different country by chance and I had opportunity to change my life for the better. Who am I replacing? I’m single without any children. I have higher education, secular beliefs and not taking benefits from the state. People move, it’s an absolutely normal situation it just has to be regulated in order to keep western values alive.
@@lararimac258 but that’s exactly your governments fault. They are the ones making laws and regulations
@stefanig4834 hypocrite. When Douglas says "Immigration is bad for Britain" it means that ALL immigration is bad. So stop being a hypocrite.
7 years later and the problem has now become a crisis.
The country is finished, we just aren’t seeing the end point yet… yet.
@@dotdashdotdash 30,000 on boats across the channel (That we know of). All fighting aged men.
This country is finished. It really is
I know it's not clean, but to save this country, we need gradual deportation. We need a strong leader who still believes the country, in it's proper definition, is not dead, not entirely.
EU is finished. It's becoming a cesspool of Islamic radicals that want all our countries to change.
The title of this video does a disservice to the actual message. I'm a Filipino and have nothing to do with Britain. I see his point and think its true
I really like the Philippines and work with many of them for years. But a good thing the Philippines has, even though many foreigners live there, amazingly only a single handful of deserving people are allowed citizenship each year! The rest, they will assimilate or leave, as it should be.
Salamat my friend! You have common sense unlike most European political leaders.
It’s a deliberate slur
@@thelastdalek1 In what way is it a slur? We are talking legal and illegal.
@@johnturnbull4257 it is a slur on Douglas Murray’s name. By representing him in a way that is untrue He did not say immigration was bad for Britain he was arguing the point that we need to slow it down a bit etc etc His name is slured in the title of the video. Or doesn’t that fit into your agenda? And I have always been left wing So I’m not defending any agenda. I’m defending the truth. But truth is in very short supply now!
He's seems flat-out exhausted arguing for this. He has the look and sound of despair and he's right.
5 years on and he is very absent from the internet and mainstream broadcasting. he either got fed up fighting or he was dissuaded .
The Brits brought theis nightmare upon themselves. The consequence of imposing their presence on other countries...
So we as a unique ethnicity det destroyed, white man gotta go.
@@draquone Dont blame the elites actions on the everyday british.. you morp.
@@draquone Funny how the Turks, Moroccans, Mongols and Japanese all imposed their presence on other countries but suffered absolutely no consequences whatsoever for doing so.
As an African I can say I agree with Douglas. Britain has lost itself with immigration and to say that is not at all racist. I myself would not be pleased to find myself a minority in in my own country. National identity is important for many reasons. Unfortunately, it’s a crime to say that when you’re white.
Why would you feel bad for a race of people who invaded colonized and screwed over hundreds of millions of people all over the world? The British screwed other people for the last 400 years.
British people aren't against immigration. It's just mass immigration can change the culture of the area, where British people feel pushed out. We have taken in refugees in times of crisis and I'm proud of our country for that and the majority of British people will give any friendly decent person the time of day; regardless of skin colour, nationality or whatever.
It can out a strain on public services for everyone, if infrastructure doesn't keep up with immigration.
The problem is, and the WEF I think confirms this, the wealthy have never much cared who their neighbour was so long as they were of the right sort, and that is because they recognise an elite. To them there is no nation, merely a global playground, and this has been the case for thousands of years, just limited to how long it took to travel.
The elites can use all the fossil fuels they wish, the masses cannot, the elites can eat what they please, the masses cannot, the elites can say and act however they please, the masses cannot, even reproductive rights (the US has a dark history of sterilising the poor, mostly white by the by, now the argument around absolute abortion "rights" and the encouragement for it to be "empowering" to be childless and such BS). No matter the form, no matter the time it will never change, which is why people can't just take it on their knees, and they certainly can't think "something else" will be the elixer, it never is, accountability is the closest thing we have.
High Tower Honestly, thank you for speaking up. Whenever I say this, it's mainly young black, Asian or extremely leftist white people who call me out for being racist. No one wants to be a minority in their own homeland. No one wants their culture erased. I'm so glad that a non-British person agrees with what most British people agree with. I'm going to say it again, thank you.
As a Romanian, I can totally understand his point. There is legal immigration, and there is mass migration. He talked about this back in the start of 2014, and his message is more important than ever now in 2021.
As a Romanian too I agree. The reality of the situation is that mass immigration is no different from collonialism.
Mass immigration represents an influx of people with different ideals and beliefs which threaten to undermine the ideals and beliefs of the natives.
Add to this the fact that there is no concerted effort to naturalise these immigrants (break their desire to subvert our traditions and beliefs) makes it worse.
The only end to mass immigration will be either mass deportation or massive and overreaching laws for the purpose of breaking down immigrat beliefs and replacing them with adequate native beliefs.
Funny thing is most people in the UK and a few other west European countries don't want eastern European immigration, these immigrants were and in many cases still view them very badly, especially Romanians
If only you saw the Headlines about Romanians when they were joining the EU.
mass migration IS legal migration though. The majority of immigrants to the UK come through legal means, but there is just far too many.
Even more in November 2023.
I have spent myself three years in London as an immigrant and I am thankful for the opportunity I had to enrich my bag of experiences. However I do believe that societies must protect a minimum of cultural homogeneity and preserve it for future generations, which the UK is not doing.
God bless you for your honesty. Much respect.
Thank you for your kind words and gratitude 🇬🇧❤🇬🇧
@@willashland4597 Thanks, happy to see that many people do not see any evil in my words. Other people do believe to see such evil and this sometimes leads to absurd discussions...
@@Arbie_Games You welcome.
As an immigrant (legal one); agreed fully.
This guy is a top-notch orator. Great speech, many truths spoken.
So we're talking 69 action? Not really my thing to be honest.
wibblegorm
Pretty awkward when its performed by a same sex couple. :)
+Kevin Afton I guess that would depend on whether they're both gay or not.
Yeh they normally sound good
Sorry Wibblegorm, but you are wrong. If he WAS 'top notch', he'd have managed to synchronise his lips with his speech.
10:42 As a 2nd-Generation legal immigrant, I 100% agree the rate of immigration is way too high and we’re too soft on immigration policies.
indeed the best thing you can do right now is leave the country. Your father made a mistake
@J Cavanagh any particular thing you want to specify
Now that's a real Mokhlis sasa speaking!
Said with a straight dead-pan face?!
As indigenous British on both sides, what this person originally said in his comment perfectly legitimate. His father came legally and, presumably, contributed to the existing society. Controlled immigration in small numbers, good. Uncontrolled immigration in overwhelming numbers, bad.
When I was in London, I went to Notting Hill and thought I was in the Middle East.
@@asemaq BS
Have you ever been to the middle East?
@Zareb Imam what?
@@asemaq bollocks. london is an arab/south asian mess.
@TimeZ Keepertool first learn grammar. Secondly I'm not West Asian(I don't use the Western term 'Middle East'). Thirdly there is no slavery anymore in most of the West Asian countries. Finally using europeans as slaves happened during Barbary(North African) and Ottoman slave trade
There is nothing racist here, just common sense.
It is bad that there is nothing racist there. :)
www.brookings.edu/research/less-than-half-of-us-children-under-15-are-white-census-shows/
Hes a racist
@@jayo3074 how do you know?
@@jayo3074 why? Strong words, can we have proof ?
@@ianskelly6911 Would you doubt that he is idolised by racists?
' . . . the speed and rate matters.' Yes - such a shame that such arguments are denied by so many. He speaks so well on such emotive subjects.
@Yeshua is Lord. Just Curious, if he had an opportunity to go back to china for a much better life than the one in Britain, would he be interested in going ?
9 years and nobody listened
lmao first few sentences into his speech:
"I am not against immigration"...
...Oxford Union making a title for the video:
"IMMIGRATION IS BAD".
It's the largest and probably most famous debating society in the world. It's clear he is arguing for the sake of it, as one does in a debating society.
it’s the title of the motion
@@emmacatterall9130
Isn't the motion that postwar, Britain has seen to much immigration?
@@vasey6635 Has it seen too much?
The t
This doesn't grow old or become less relevant as the weeks, months and years go by.
True
"I think it is right for people to have a place they call home, an identity they can be proud of; I think it for all people around the world, and I think it for the people of this country too."
Outstanding outro, uncontestable points. Bravo Douglas.
you just see what you want to see. You are theoretical and impractical.
Ok lets re pay all that shit that they stole from africa back then, maybe they can build a better country. Easy to say that when a country has been build from stealing other ppl
and yet his entire argument negates that.
A speech that aged ridiculously well.
The dingy divers in Kent for one thing
Your comment has aged even better, 2 years on.
Beat me to that comment.@@flanaj2
8 years on and this issue is still prevalent
What Douglas said is pure common sense based on evidence and logic . But it’s scary and heart breaking to realize that some of the people of Europe has lost it .
Joshua Philip
Have lost it.
Doug's a charlatan, it's just racist drivel
I think it's to late for the UK already
Well spoken Mr Murray
In brazil things are irreversible.
You only see blond girls dating blacks😂😂😂😂😂
Very strong and logical speech! I agree 100% with him!
@Atonal Moondance Why?
@Bilal Khalid if extreme people didn't kill there own people they would stay in their own country.
@Jusu Jaka What a waste of 2bob you were I speak to your ancestors
@Bilal Khalid forced by UK UK wouldn't get involved if people countries didn't go around killing own people.
@Jusu Jaka fuck right off cos gays are in every country no matter what religion or nationality. You totally donut twat. If you want me to be a twat then answer.
Our country needs more of Douglas Murray’s, he’s way ahead of his time.
His words of wisdom and common sense just fell on deaf ears and here we are now!
Thank you Douglas! You are the voice of the sane in this strange time!!
Very well said. Scarily enough, I fear just since this speech was given, we now live in a world where you cannot say these things. In many western countries, you’d be banned off of Facebook and fired from your job if you spoke out of this publicly.
Who cares about Facebook or social media. Your job, fair enough but you HAVE to speak up if you believe in what is being said. Its important and the more people that aren't afraid will prove the silent majority actually agree. Freedom to Express your thoughts is vitally important.
I feel for your loss .... what can we do
Or have been done
It's a corona time now
Let's find a cure
Ironically, political correctness can be seen as a form of fascism. As humans we naturally repel foreigners who are too foreign. It is part of human evolution and we all know it deep inside.
You can say it and you should.
@@athena001979 agree
I am British Sikh my family migrated in to the UK when there was a booming economy with full employment, full employment ended in the late 70's migration has accelerated since then and it is unsustainable also migration needs to be studied in terms of how each community helps to add value to society.
I'm sorry, but if you're a Sikh, you're not really British. Otherwise, I can move to China and become a Chinese Christian. No personal disrespect intended.
@@davykenneth1589 In my view I am second generation British as I view British as a nationality, reflected by the passport you carry, However I view English Scottish Welsh as ethnicities and I do not describe myself as English as no form of mixing has occurred with any English or Scottish or Welsh people in my genetic history.
@@1amarsandhu A passport may say a second generation migrant is British. On paper you have a 'British' label associated with you to make it easier to identify that you were born on the Island. For me, the words on a piece of paper do not determine your nationality, rather the blood that runs through your veins. If I move to Africa and a son is born to me on the continent, he shares nothing with Africans other than the fact he is on the continent. To be British, is to be either English, Scottish or Welsh (or Northern Irish) - it is an umbrella term for the Kingdoms of the British Isles, not an umbrella for anyone with origins from anywhere in the world. If I still respect the existence of my country, I cannot recognise such a claim. Otherwise nationality means absolutely nothing at all.
@@1amarsandhu You are not British. You are a thief of Britain’s success. Immigrants should fix their own country instead of moving to our western ones.
@@davykenneth1589 what's your opinion on Australians and South Africans.......
Mass immigration is awful. We are overcrowded 63 million people on this small island.
Scotland has lots of land like between Glasgow and Edinburgh
We also have a truck drive shortage now. Surely we should hire some immigrants to do those jobs?
68 million* and large parts are Mountains too. The UK had FAR foo many people
The same thing is happening in Canada. I look around and think I am in East India. I no longer feel at home. Traitors have destroyed my country.
I hear you. I hate all the East Indians in Canada. They are everywhere. Australia is infested by East Indians as well. And by the sounds of it, the UK as well. I have no desire to travel anywhere, because every country has been flooded with East Indians. And every city they touch, turns into a ghetto riddled with crime.
Indian diaspora are most successful and much more contributing than locals to their country. Indians are very aware of foreign cultures, unlike foreigners who have racist references to India.
Don't mix with other illegal or refugee immigrants.
I was born & bred in the east end of London,minutes from the docks.
Black Canadian dad who came during the war with the Canadian airforce.met my mother,3rd generation east end Irish,& got wed in 49.
I was born in 1953 a brown kid in what was then overwhelmingly white working class & cockney.I loved it!!!
It was an environment with a culture deeply rooted in the east end,& yes once again almost totally white.I loved it.
That’s almost totally gone now,a victim of diversity. A system where the hosts are expected to change to suit the new comers, & not the reverse.
Where the indigenous culture is sacrificed for political correctness.
I miss the old east end culture.
I must be a racist mustn’t I!!!!
No you're a coconut!
I love coconuts 🥥
All things change. Get over it. *Rolls eyes*
@@jagjitroudh9894 Because you are a immagrant, and part of the problem.
@Henry Clayton Well said, we are all for multiethnicity, but not for multiculturism.
Funny how this showed up on my feed 5 years later. It’s safe to say that he was right.
Lara King
What does safe to safe mean?
@Adam B Damn. I guess you deserve everything that happens to you then too. The odds of one of your ancestors having not done something shitty or immoral isn't exactly high. Especially by today's standards. Funny how that works.
@Bird's Eye View Zionist Jews are behind this. It's the kalergi plan.
Lara King Indeed, he was spectacularly right.
Adam B How far back should we go with reparation? Pick up any history book and you’ll see just how often countries and borders have changed hands. Firstly the U.K. has paid back already a lot of money to these countries and secondly if you support endless repatriation for governments then why not individuals? Do you think that you should be responsible of the crimes and debts of your entire family tree going back multiple generations? Do you believe your children should inherit your debts if you had some?
The mentality that the current generation and systems that has nothing to do with the past need to make up for crimes that were committed hundreds of years ago is absolutely insane.
I went to work in North London and it seemed where I ever I went all I heard and could see were foreigners, then I saw some white English people ... they were Polish.
Enough is enough.
We really cannot have an open door anymore particularly during our awful economic state.
Why are we taking in Albanians now ?
If there are doctors and engineers and any professionals in any third world country need to stay there, the third world needs them
Jason Ward Thats such a good point to shut up the lefties. I’ve never looked at it like that before. By taking foreign Doctors we are essentially saying we are more worthy of them than the people in their native country’s they leave behind. Kind of contradicts the whole mantra really 👍
Well why should they?? everyone else is afforded the privilege to migrate around so why can't the Africans or Asians? Considering most of their wealth was brought here..i say anyone qualified can and should be encouraged to at least come here for a few yrs to benefits everyone.Us and when they go back their home country ....
There's often a problem with British people not training to work in industries such as medicine, which is why they employ people from abroad who are qualified. I blame the education system for not encouraging more people to get a career in health-care.
@@houseofzuma1033 They do come here, this is where they get educated but then they become snobbish against the people of their native countries and don't go back. Like in Ethiopia when Haile Selassie ruled he sent Ethiopians abroad to be educated in order to come back and replace all the French, Greek, and Armenian teachers, dentist and doctors and other professions in Ethiopia, well they all dissed Ethiopia and never came back. Instead they start trying to be European or U.S. American
Jason Ward I agree the natural resources and ownership of the land other nations need to own their own land and its resources to
To the people of Britain: Listen to this man now before your country descends into utter social chaos!!!
p 12 i was about to say just that xD
This man should have a place in politics Please listen to him country
@p 12 yep, it's too late
Too late for the whole Commonwealth.
Too late : (
Douglas, as a Croatian woman I agree on every word you say. Europe is the continent of NATIVE Europeans. Protect our continent people at all cost.
I very much agree that Europe belongs to Europeans. Also I have another question. Who does North America belongs to?
And this was 8 years ago! What would he be saying now?
The British values have been watered down and I no longer feel I am living in Britain (my home country). I no longer recognise it.
Damn right . Bring back bread an butter as my nan always said.
Yes you're right, also Aboriginal Australian and Maoris of New Zealand feel the same way too. But only difference is they are minority in their own land.
#savemaorivalues #saveaborginalvalues
@@mischuschubhan3618 neither ever existed as nation states with governments (or equivalent) and homogenous identities. They belonged to various tribes, and often warring tribes at that.
Other than 'revenge' or 'karma', which isn't an intellectually compelling argument, then I fail to see your point. They're not the people mass-invading Europe for a start, so rather moot.
Welp, maybe the British should’ve thought about the long-term consequences of their actions before they spent centuries marching into other nations uninvited and forcibly imposing their way of life on the native populations. Colonialism is coming back to bite Britain in the ass, and I love it.
Galatians 6:7 For whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.
I moved to the UK from Canada for a career opportunity, my main motivation was because I wanted to travel the world a bit, but the close second was my falling in love with the British culture by watching British television and movies in Canada. I came here because I wanted to learn about the British, and integrate into their society and their culture. I love the history of this nation, I love learning about the great diversity of thought, dialects, and cultures within this nation. I find it absolutely shocking to find so many young people, British natives, or people who came here to be educated in the prestigious British universities, think that being proud to be British is racist. I meet them everywhere. I find it incredible that I have more love for this country than young British citizens.
I recently had a taxi driver, a man from Pakistan, drive myself, and a British friend (who very much is ashamed to be British). This driver, absolutely ADORED this nation. He could not stop talking about how incredible life is here compared to back home, and the other countries in which he has lived. It makes me wonder what is being taught to children here, in Canada, and America, that we are being taught that our heritage is something to be ashamed of. My family fled Communism in the 80s to make a life for their children, and I could not be more grateful for the sacrifices they made in terms of career and leaving their homes, all for their children's future.
When I travel around Europe, I find the locals extremely proud of their heritage. They talk about their culture proudly, and they share that culture with others. But if a person in England stands up proudly for their culture, they are perceived as racist. There is something rotten at the core of this.
We must start teaching our children the COMPLEX history, both good and bad. Not just focus on the bad. Yes, bad things have been done by British people in history, and also incredible, wonderful things that have helped bring about the modern world we live in today. History is complex, because HUMANS are complex. We cannot simply paint it with a single stroke of the brush.
My parents escaped communism as well for me to grow up in Canada, I find a lot of that what you describe here as well.
Well said.
Canada is better...that's why I left England for Canada.
@@melanie851 it's certainly colder.
@@jamesmason8436 It certainly is but the summers are hot and sunny so it's worth the discomfort.
He's right. No one can say otherwise without being ignorant or lying.
Welp, maybe the British should’ve thought about the long-term consequences of their actions before they spent centuries marching into other nations uninvited and forcibly imposing their way of life on the native populations (see Africa, India, the Americas.)
Galatians 6:7 For whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.
@@ArvelCrynyd irrelevant nonsense. Immigration is bad for Europe.
@@user-gt2kl9jr3l Better or worse than European colonialism was for Africa? So in other words, the European powers march into other continents to exploit, ensl*ve, and forcibly convert the native populations, leaving said populations in far worse conditions than when they first arrived, and you people don’t bat an eye. But then, when people from those same former colonies start to immigrate to your country for no other reason than to find employment and make better lives for themselves and their families (because, as I mentioned before, you left their countries in worse condition than when you found it), that’s when you draw the line?
That’s not how it works. Actions have consequences. You people made this bed. Now you’re gonna have to lay in it.
@@ArvelCrynyd all irrelevant. My comment stands on its own merit.
@@user-gt2kl9jr3l The oppression of people who don’t share your skin color, follow your religion, or speak your language is never relevant, is it? Hypocrite.
I am an Indian, fully appreciate his
concerns.
I'm so sick of politicians saying "Diversity is our strength!" my question is HOW?
How whiteman went to that big Island Australia?
@@someamazingselectedvideosf7707 Yeah white man went there and in 230 years turned it into one of the greatest countries on the planet. Abo's were here for 50,000 years and invented a stick!
@@GeneralG1810 are u ignore of golden age of Islam!! It is well documented that west learned the science generally from Islamic world, and who gave u the right to go to the other people’s territory and develop it. Why so much white immigrants went to the new worlds??
@@someamazingselectedvideosf7707 The mathematics and science that they stole from conquering other lands. They didn't think of it themselves, and look at them now the most backwards countries in the world
@@GeneralG1810 they took some knowledge from others n make it more advance, suppose chemistry comes from the name of the Arab guy Al chemi Algebra comes from Al jabir, what went wrong, first Mongol destroyed the centre of knowledge in that time Baghdad, then most of the lands were colonized by emerging western european countries. Now a days conflicts exist first of all if all Arabia united that would be bad for some, in addition America attacked Muslim land only because their interest on their oil supply.
I wish we had more people like Douglas Murray.
They are ignored, ridiculed and eventually de-platformed by the treacherous establishment and their media lackies. We can't have people telling the truth now, can we?
Western world is coming to an end Islam is political religion be aware of that Christian brothers love from Africa
Look to tommy robinson
... to laugh at.
@@susanlim595 I'm Brazilian, and none of my Venezuelan friends would laugh at such claims
Protect your culture while you still have it.
I get what he's saying but claiming that the UK is homogenous and always has been while it's literally four different nations stitched together is something I can't agree with. Not to even mention the Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Viking invasions, Norman exchange, Irish immigration from the famine, Immigrants from the colonial era and refugees from WW2.
Blair will be labeled as criminal by historians.
That's not good enough nor should we who will not be witness to his ( and labord obvious -) betrayal sit back,do nothing hoping history will show
May we pray that this will be the case, but alas, history is written by the victor.
Look at Germany....well say no more rapists and muggers and women get treated awful
@@foofoofoofoo563 Im a German. Everything is fine here thankyou very much. Don't believe in the media. Crimes always happen. Mind you, our crime rate is way lower than in Britain
Yes it might be less than Britain....but you wait and see whats coming
Haven't you noticed how immigrants usually want more immigrants.
That’s not quite true. Many immigrants who have fully integrated are quite against more of their own people coming to the UK. The bulk of the 1940s wartime Polish immigrants were utterly horrified when Britain opened its doors to nearly 2 million of their own countrymen in 2004. They knew very well that their position and status in the UK won over decades of hardwork would be eroded away in a matter of weeks.
What is the point to listen to an intelligent conversation when your mind is unable to absorb an iota?
Actually, recently arrived immigrants are the most anti-immigration as it reduces the value of their labour (UK spelling). Economists have known this for years.
No, not necessary.
I am also an immigrant and I agree that MASS immigration is not the best interest for this country. When I moved to this country, I was on points base system proving that I qualified with the skillsets that this country needed. In return, this country can provide the future and stability to me that I believe in. It is a social contract in the forms of job, tax contribution and bringing up the family.
Secondly, I invest my future to this country as what Britain is.
For the British people to accept immigrants and the immigrants to settle the new land, the process has to be slow and gradual in order to achieve mutual acceptance and integration. Immigration is a sacred marriage, not forced marriage.
You fucking wrong there mate!
So much respect to Douglas Murray for showing these child like students that facts should be said no matter how uncomfortable it may be! He used facts to prove his point! It is common knowledge that mass migration is not just bad but very bad for Britain, anybody who says different is just wrong!
It isn't common knowledge, it's an assertion made by racists.
why is it we have to go to Oxford University,to hear truth`s spoken. Well done Douglas Murray....for saying what most think in our country today?
Because the Lügenpresse is still around and run by the very same people who still want to destroy Europe, that's why!!! History is not a science and it is taught only from a single point-of-view... Wake up!!!
Douglas Murray for "Immigration Minister"
If only
Priti Patel is not far off in mindset
@@MrNelford And that's why she is no longer a cabinet minister. Suella Braverman will be the next one to go!
The only thing Douglas was wrong about back then, was his hair
Fantastic line!
Look at the state of Britain now, it’s ruined 😢
Yep. It's all Blair's fault too. What a disgusting ¢unt to bless our nation
I'm absolutely with Douglas Murray on this. I did notice, however, that there are only 2 videos speaking for the proposition, and four speaking against. Were there only two on their side, or are there more videos to come? Because, if so, that seems to me an exceedingly unbalanced debate to begin with.
My left ear really enjoyed this speech
Lol
I was constantly adjusting my earphones and laughed at your comment
@@GPBleakley1 Same here 😂
Im sure an Aboriginal Australian and Maoris of New Zealand will tell their stories on your right ear. Aboriginal Australian make less than 3% and Maoris 15%.
Are you saying that British people today should feel guilty for what their ancestors did a few centuries ago?
Can you give us one good reason why Britons in 2021 should feel guilty?
Should present day Mongolians feel guilty for their empire?
During empire most Britons were oppressed by their rulers in the U.K. I am sure both your ears would listen if they told you their stories.
My ancestors stayed in Wales and England and didn’t colonise anywhere so leave me alone!
This was 9 years ago and its even worse now 🙃
Tony Blair wanted to achieve his place in history as a wonderful humanitarian. A very selfish wish that has destroyed the traditions, history, culture and laws of Britain
The most intelligent man I've listened to since The Hitch, but unfortunately it's too late.
It's NOT too late (Feb 2019)
No one comes near our Hitch' this guy is cool but look at him, he's exhausted & had enough of the argument, [almost given up, no ones heard from him in a while] Hitch never got tired' his anger gave him more motivation to do what he loved & as you know as a fellow fan' even terminal sickness didn't stop him up to his sad passing;/ if anyone takes the mantle its Dawkins or Sam Harris' if the 4 horsemen are The Beatles Hitch was the J Lennon of the group & Dawkins, McCartney (the velvet glove to the iron fist;)
u dumb , its because u have abandoned christianity that ur culture is going away as well , but keep it up , its a funny contradiction to watch
please take this insult back, he doesn't come near the mighty 'Hitch' that is an insult and you can't insult the dead.
It's not too late, but it's going to be difficult. Instead of being perpetually "nice," you really have to become tough and resolute. The Muslims were pushed out of what is now Spain, for example. You'll need to believe that your culture is worth saving (and yes, it is). From an American.
Douglas Murray is a very brave man who tells the truth! God bless you sir!
Yeah God loves racist and egoistic people
@@visitorvis8056 I pity the man who conflates "truth" with "racist"...disprove anything that he has said as being factually inaccurate. Go ahead, I dare you.
Visitor Vis Jesus didn’t construct the U.N (knob sack)
Moving to England was a very conscious choice as I was already in love with the culture, the landscape and Celtic history. When I moved to Cornwall, I had already been teaching English as a second language for years, so language was never a barrier. I was eager to learn more and integrate. Spent 3 years at uni and then went on to work as a teacher in different establishments. Had to move to back to Greece because of health issues. Still, I would return each year to teach English in the summer. Every year I paid in full my insurance contributions and my taxes, which in the end have me settled status as a European citizen. Haven't returned since COVID though unfortunately.I never saw myself as an immigrant, and the Brits never made me feel like an immigrant, until the whole Brexit vote that is. I feel after Brexit a few people sadly felt entitled to exhibit very poor behaviour.
That's unfortunate - what did you encounter?
Georgia, please ignore the people who exhibited bad behaviour, you are welcome here as a polite productive member of society you sound to be. I hope you return and only come across people who behave well towards you which the majority of this country will do.
@@johnwaugh4283 Awh, thank you that's a nice comment of you. Have a lovely year!
don't believe the after brexit bit,media create that baloney narrative
You did not decide to stay here & bring huge numbers of relatives. The problem is, there are certain immigrants who come here and expect us to change our laws and customs to suit. They don't respect us or our societal standards and that is unacceptable. People are sick to death of the current invasion.
Some immigration is good if these immigrants are true talents not found in Britain.
Over-immigration is BAD. It is the same as having anything too much in quantity. Eg. Taking a pill of panadol can relief you of your headache. Over-consumption of panadol can kill you.
Take note. Its the EXTENT, Rate of immigration that is the issue. Its not immigration per se that is the issue.
Richard Tan Tan Would you agree it's about space and not race? Because I've read some comments on here that single out entire groups of people as if they all talk and think the same. Mass immigration is a disaster, I agree, but I don't think ones race should be relevant.
Indian immigrants have destroyed britain,america,europe
"Some immigration is good if these immigrants are true talents not found in Britain." AND!!! also not creating a wage dumping atmosphere....
this is not an immigration problem but an islamization ⚔️🌙🧕🧕👳🏾♂️🧕🧕🌙⚔️🕌🕋
Mich Elle Yea. It's gone too far. They don't want to get assimilated is the biggest problem, and they keep saying why do you not accept us. That is madness. This German guy said the following on some tv show. Germans made so many holidays for Muslims, but they keep asking for more and more. If you want to dress as you dressed before in your country, if you want to eat as you did before, stop forcing people and go back. If your culture is beneficial enough, people in the hosting country will adopt it and want to learn more and more even if you don't force them. It's natural selection. Humans intuitively know what's good or bad. This is how cultural integration happens. Majority of the population in the world is refusing Islam, because it's not good. It's violent. It's you immigrants who need to change if you decided to live in a foreign country.
wow Doug Murray, an actual intelligent person... so rare.
BiffaTW
meh, he let his xenophobia convince him that letting his motherland take a huge economic time wasting hit to keep his nation "clean"
Doven Ro Galus look into any data about economical behaviour with immigrants
Human labor is a resource for the market to expand on, its a great way to expand the foundation
Also the fear of immigrants is highly irrational due to the failure of our media since their incentive is getting more views rather than sharing clear trustworthy information
Shock value and fear attracts attention rather than good news from unbiased data no matter how crazy that sounds
I think we're hardwired to focus on the bad things in a vigilant kind of way but it can be misdirected
Doven Ro Galus
Sorry but your emotional/ nationalistic/tribalistic/xenophobic babbling is a bore for me
Im much more interested in ways to raise our efficiency towards the greater good concerning general wellbeing and raising the quality of life for conscious life
Doven Ro Galus
Your leaning towards natural fallacies
Raping is bad even though it is natural
Self segregation is also bad even though it is natural
You need more time to think about these things i think and be more careful and honest, find a new perspective which is aware of its biases from its ego
Doven Ro Galus
The bandwidth of this form of communication simply serves the topic horrendously, my patience is lacking towards it when i contrast it to what would be my verbal responses
But i understand where youre coming from, it would just take time to show different perspectives on the same topics
Multiculturalism has been the worst thing to ever happen to this country.
I remember when the thumbnail used to be a neutral picture of Douglas, then someone changed it to make him appear "hateful".
I love hearing this guy speak - so eloquent and so true!
This guy's a hero. It does me so much good to hear him speak. Thank you for being a voice of reason and honesty.
3:14 - That's incredibly disingenuous, and he knows it is. 50,000 immigrants in 1680 was a much bigger % of the population than 50,000 immigrants today.
You can call him with all the best terms you may but a racist is the worst evil you can get and that is what he is
@@salamisfamagusta2918 :. The term 'racist' is a meaningless left-wing construct. If wishing to protect my country's culture, traditions and economy is 'racist', then I wear the badge with pride.
@@tiberfoaming4191 *If you wear the badge with pride, why don't you use your real name and photo?*
@Rob Kingsbury Yes. But the population of England in the 1680's was about 4 million.
He is my favourite person. A fine, upstanding and brave gentleman.
I wish America had the same view on immigration
I'm an immigrant - I arrived to the UK from Iran when I was 7 years old and been living and working here ever since then. I completely understand where Mr Murray is coming from. Compared to the UK, US, and Canada, other nations are so much more stricter when it comes to the immigration system. The rate of immigration does matter and the reasons of individuals for wanting to seek asylum is not always a legitimate one. I also believe that EVERYONE that seeks a safe space to live is also an economic migrant. Although some do have legitimate reasons for moving, i.e. political persecution, almost every migrant is an economic migrant. However, looking at it from another lens, the British Empire was built from the process of colonization which is why it has a lot of foreign connections when we look at the history of the world. Because of this connection, it was inevitable for people from other nations moving to the UK and other Western nations. Look at me as a prime example. The British were in Iran for many decades while the Shah was the leader. It was almost inevitable for Iranians to seek a life in Britain when the regime changed.
A refreshing attitude. I wish you well here in the UK. It sounds like you are integrating and respect our culture. Good on you.
Aside from the Anglo Iranian oil company what else did the uk have in terms of influence?
I’m just curious I don’t know much about that part of the informal empire
sunny Iran,,lovely easy going country full of happy smiling people,who'd want to leave such a wonderful place?
Blah blah, death of England
@@johnneville403 I have a similar pov, my dads full English and my mums a South American immigrant. I understand both arguments and to be honest ppl who just scream racist about this are very simple minded and lack critical thinking.
I would vote for Douglass Murray in a heartbeat.
London has most definitely fallen
Fast forward 8 years .....yep the country is fucked
Indeed as someone living in London I feel alienated and that I have no means of connecting with those around me. There's no real sense of community, just people who live here. It was a unique experience when one day sitting by myself in Blackpool, I had a stranger come up and talk to me as though it were an everyday thing. From there I knew there is something unnatural about this way of life, so no wonder there's an epidemic of loneliness and depression.
As an American, I feel for you. We are fortunate to have Trump at the moment, but as soon as the democrats take control here we will likely be in a similar situation. You have to wonder if certain extrapolitical forces are conspiring to topple Western socities.
@@willashland4597 fortunate? Jeez...
I live in London too and feel the exact same way. Everything has changed so quickly that it's difficult to come to terms with
I'm from Scotland and I've been interviewing for jobs in London, but I've only been hearing bad things about it. Are people really that unfriendly? Where I'm from the working class areas tend to me quite friendly but in the city centre and the posh parts of the city people keep to themselves
Then talk to people. Other races do not prevent you from doing that.
The greatest issue and the most detrimental problem to the UK and the British values has been, and is, the Muslim immigration, Pakistanis in particular!
they used to say the same about irish immigrnats
u racist prick
muslims are more british, than most atheists
Joe Mark islam isnt a race fuck wit
***** yes it is you racist ! and the orginal comment was about a race
islam is a race, justa s judaism is
***** There's more immigration from the EU into the UK than all other continents.
willthiswork100
Not true. The movement of people within the EU isn't 'immigration' as there is free movement of people in the EU. If I'm wrong, please provide reliable sources to demonstrate it.
The more revealing statistics concerns refugees. The country receiving most is Pakistan (1.6m in 2012) and the country from which most refugees flee is Afghanistan, as a result of the invasion of the US and its allies.
2024 and this is so depressing to watch as its only gotten worse.
It’s crazy to think all those students are now actually Lawyers today lol.
A Brilliant Man !
From Portugal a Christian Country my best regards.
Portugal don't get much immigration unless people to retire in villas in Algarve.
Because Portugal is one most poorest countries in Europe with low wages etc. If Portugal was a rich country with high wages you would have same problem with immigration as UK.
Coming from a Portuguese person I am family orginally from Braga.
Keep your nation Catholic and it will avoid a lot of modern problems.
The worst thing about it now is the Novus Ordo anti-Church is not the Holy Catholic Church.
However the average Catholic has no idea about sedevacantist chapels.
Ethereal Catholic yep! P.francis , globalist marksist (Zionist)
How is Portugal these days?
@@NeuronalAxon living the dreamm!!!the primary school I went on 15 years ago is about 80% black and the city filled with African thugs that drink beer and smoke all day, truly living the Dream! oh, and every street has 1 or 2 muslim grocery store and mobile shops. (from a suburb of the capital, Lisbon)
So extremely sensible and true. Bravo.
Indian immigrants have destroyed UK,AMERICA,EUROPE
If we don't get this type of sense spoken from no.10 soon, they'll have a band of rebels ambushing pariament!
@@anthonygonsalves9942 were gonna get ya
England is like a bucket 🪣 full of water 💧 and nobody turns the tap off
“Keep Europe for Europeans” - Dalai Lama
Who are European in specific sense ? Ofcourse who live in europe with legal documents they are European . Isn't it ?
Obvious truth
@@sunainapanthy5953
White is a racial classification and skin color specifier, used mostly and exclusively for people of European and, more broadly Western Eurasian descent.
@@sunainapanthy5953 Europeans are people of European descent
#Migration, I’m still confused why, we, Western countries take so many, and the mideast takes 0
Lisa that's because Western countries are more attractive! I'm not white and live in Europe because I love white Europeans I find them very welcoming but I hate the minority racist white supremacists!
Its because its an invasion helped by traitors in government
It's just because the deals made in the 1970'ies and the promises that the politicians want to uphold now: mass-immigration and giving them work and seats in power!
Lisa clemens it’s because the west have bombed and damaged the middle east so much that people can’t live there.
"The Kind" is often the enemy of "The Good"
A 100% TRUE, AND I'M A BROWN MAN.
You are black
Cj Senanayake: you are right and you are a human being.
Well bugger off back to your country we hate your shiiy ways
Cj Senanayake - If you read this, please ignore the stupid replies here... they speak only for themselves.
Your comment is appreciated.
@@bfc3057 I think he's racist against black peeps.
You have to remember it’s only a small island.
Enoch Powell was right.
Five years down the road, and DM arguments ring ever more true.
Yep it’s should have been cut drastically but when May took over she upped it drastically to the highest level recorded at over 800,000 in one year!
There is a big difference in what politicians say and what they actually do. Sometimes its even the exact opposite.
Sadly most people fall for it every time.
You're so right Douglas. These islands were never a nation of immigrants. Think the PC brigade will find that was the USA & Australia. The Huguenots (who were real refugees - fleeing for their lives - & not economic migrants, nor illegal immigrants) were small in number & had absolutely no effect on this country's culture. I live in a leafy suburb of Liverpool & now I often feel I'm living in downtown Lagos. Except on some days, when I feel like I'm living in downtown Lahore. Enough said.
Irish surname, complaining about immigrants turning a neighbourhood something like Lagos. What a bizarre irony.
Maybe you should take a look on what the Irish did to Glasgow, Edinburgh and other cities where they imported their violent behaviour, their sectarianism, their cultural and ethnic wars. Sit down, your people has more in common with the Nigerians than with the English.
Your people benefited a lot from the PC brigade, FFS. Cop on and wake up.
He's right. Harrow is legit just an overseas territory of India! And this isn't some racist white dude, this is an Indian-Irish kid speaking.
Strange that you cant find anything new on immigration on UA-cam anymore...
"I think it is right for people to have a place they call home, an identity that they are proud of, I think it for all people around the world, and I think it for the people of this country."
Incredible, absolutely beautiful.
Yet some people call populist ideas like this fascist
Tell that to ex Brtish colonies Douglass Canada Australia New Zealand America untill the American Revolution that where settler colonies. The Native Americans Australian Aborigines Mori lost their own lands. Look at Ireland look at India Pakistan Bangladesh Burma than part of India. Look at Hon Kong and a century of humlation done to China by England France and other western Europen colonial powers. Including Japan after they westernized. Look at 2 world wars holocaust scientific rascism Systematic racism. Segregation whites only immgration laws. Stopping mixted race marriages. Etc this is the legecy of western Europe and its colonies. Suck it up England France Belgium Holland Spain Portugal Germany Italy Sweden Denmark
So true and so depressing 😞
Nothing about the danger of the Muslims in Europe?
Islam is the truth, that is why so many white europeans converting to it than any other religion.
He doesn't even need to say it.
"Badly managed" immigration is an obvious problem. You might note, they never flood Henley on Thames with immigrants or refugees. It is always the 'already poor and challenged areas.' THIS IS NO ACCIDENT.
I don't remember the Lefties complaining that Amin was racist.
Or Mugabe.
True look at London now
This aged like a fine wine
Wonderful, eloquent and absolutely spot on. Enough is enough.
Britain is in its current states because the British government no longer has any loyalty to the British people. Britain no doubt lets other races pursue their own racial and religious interest. What about the interests of the native Europeans. What about the survival of its many unique peoples. The world already has a middle east, A Africa and a china. The world only has one Europe. If European lose the majority in their own countries then the very existence of the native Europeans peoples on this planet are in question.
***** If you believe the scientists Europeans colonized the America thousands of years before the native Americans arrived. Oldest skull found in American is around 13,000 years old and European.We crossed during the last ice age. These European colonist died out either by mongrelizing out of existences or being murdered off by Asians arriving thousands of years later.
***** and your proof of these statements. The internet, books and news back my view up what do you have to back up your theory. The Kennewick man has a classic European skull. American Indians are Asian. You can normally tell the different between a Asian and European skulls at a glance unless your blind.
@@Jackhand100 Actually the East Asians & Siberians who colonised the Americas during the last Ice Age weren't the only ones. Both recent genetics & archaeology show that at least a small number of blacks got to South America before the Asians did. Polynesians, also of originally East-Asian origin (Formosa) got to South America 3000 years ago to, that's how Asian chickens of the Polynesian variety got to South America & sweat potatoes of American origin found their way to Melanesia more than a millennium before Columbus & even Scandinavians were sailing about North America about the same time the Inuit establishing themselves.
I agree agree on many things he said. Mass immigration is bad for Britain. It is bad for the USA. It is bad for many countries as well. I am an immigrant. My family is an immigrant but we followed the process. I am against an influx of immigrants with no law and order. That creates instability and leads to violence.
The whole point of my family leaving our native country is to avoid instability and violence. To have a better life not bring those with us and make the countries we see hope turn in to ashes. That’s not what I would want. But obviously there is room for improvement but that is a different topic. We need immigrants who are willing to acclimate to their new social cultural setting. For some reason many liberal states in the USA discourage this. In fact they encourage them to speak their native language and have interpreters. Yes we need interpreters but they need to learn English. It will make their lives so much easier. They can learn their new environment a lot faster and minimize being hoodwinked and fooled by those who want to take advantage.
Well there was never a debate. We were never asked. There is now a certain inevitably. Buckle up, we're going to pot.
All these years later the issue has gotten significantly worse, not a single politician addressed mass migration and not the effects are irreversible and devastating
@5:55 ;;; """"" ... immigrants get old, as well... an amazing fact ... """""