It is often claimed that Africa was home to mighty and indigenous civilisations, such as those of Mali, Zimbabwe and of course the kingdom of Aksum. How true is this?
Wakanda was a racist society. Where was the diversity? And they deemed themselves superior to the rest of the world which apparently is run by white people.
They would prefer it. They're living sustainably, from the earth and back into the earth. Your "progress" is just setting up your extinction. More radiation, pollution, cancer, obesity and self destruction. So evolved arent you? lmao
@@MrLookatmyhat 20th century Afrocentrist and Euroecentrist crippling the purity of there history with phantasmal levels of stupidity and master race complexes. Leave it to 21st century people like me to actually respect the idea of independent success in civilizations.
@@MrLookatmyhat Oh what I said is true, all you elders can’t comprehend the concept of independent development so you bicker at each for who owes who what. Then you create suedoscience theory after suedoscience theory trying to make the other look inferior. Lowering the bar of intelligence father and farther until it is a inhuman almost lifeless level of suggested stupidity.
While not directly linked to the topic of this video I thought I had better let you know about news I saw earlier. Jane Austen's house museum are now going "woke" investigating her links to slavery. Though it is very known she supported abolition it is not enough to them. They argue she benefited from it from her love of tea and having cotton for her dresses too made her benefit from slavery.
Don't worry about "pouring cold water" on these fantasies Simon. It's what woke feel to be true that matters to them and has nothing to do with reality and objective truth.
@@jaimeosbourn3616 they deleted my comment again. UA-cam unfortunately isn't a free platform to share everything. Again I've stated what I've stated debunk me if it's all.false I'll wait.
Try living in Aus. Now its claimed 70,000 years of consistent culture, the oldest in the world! Still knocking sticks together and not much else in-between and its to be lauded as a wonder of the world. You should look into what is being claimed as world firsts such as farming, baking, art and aquaculture. No mathematics, no writing, not even the a square wheel! Nothing but survival and local environment understanding longer that anyone else. Well done!
The power of Hollywood in the form of Crocodile Dundee elevated the 'spirituality & in-tune with Nature' way above its harsh reality I suspect, just as with 'Brave-Fart' did for the Scots ...
@@King-balloon ... the point is that 'enlightenment' and evolution required thinking other than for just subsistence farming and basic art, resulting in massive changes to quality of life, longevity, etc. In fact, it affected the core of the human animal's claim to fame adaptability to survive whilst being the master of no particular 'strength'. One key element of humans that distinguishes it from other animals is the assimilation of information that is passed down in written, or equivalent form that can skip generations so that learning isn't forgotten, or isolated ...
Wrong, not only can everything be racist, everything IS racist: Milk is racist, math is racist, musical notation is racist, caring about ALL lives is racist, statistics are racist, brick and mortar buildings are racist, not being "black" is racist, grammar is racist, not Buying Large Mansions is racist.....
They also found symbols with later turned out to be Portuguese and the theory has it the walls are actually the remains of an old Portuguese fort from sailors who were shipwrecked of the coast of Mozambique in about the 1300’s. You can find references to it on google but it’s a touchy subject.
Yeah right... They thought they might build something of home.... Just like those magnificent stone walls of ancient Portugal! Keep looking you might make your fame and fortune discovering them!
Is this a 'theory' dating from the days of Rhodesia, when the government then in place did everything they could to downplay the possibility of the site having been built by Africans. Why would shipwrecked Portuguese travel hundreds of miles into the interior to build a large fort rather than construct some kind of defence near the coast until such time as they could be rescued?
@@Africa1000 It’s got to be easy being you! No history at all and no writing at all means schooling on your past is a breeze! Show me where else blacks made walls, primate.
@@NoahBodze You have nearly 1000s of dry stone walls similar to what you have in Zimbabwe scattered around southern Africa, Khami, Thulamela to name a few. You even have similar structure in kenya called Thimlich Ohinga. You can Google these to verify.
As someone who has an interest in history and hates keep hearing ridiculous claims being made in the name of "wokeness" it is good to hear some people who actually know history being honest about it!
@@admirekashiri9879 What were the misconceptions and what was the nonsense? If you could elaborate then perhaps people might have a point of reference to conduct their own research.
@@danielwhite1135 well he claimed there was no writing, that's nonsense there was writing however proto forms of scripts like Nisibidi, and the Songhai symbols. Kushites created the Meroitic script yes it derived from Egyptian Hyroglphics, however so did the European scripts such as the Hellenistic Greek script, the later Latin script derives from so if that fact takes anything away from the Kushites it takes away from Europeans to technically. There are only a few places on Earth where you see scripts without outside influence those are usually cradles of civilization! Then he went on to claim there were no buildings with upper stories. 🤦🏿♂️ agsin pure nonsense This stupid misconception has been debunked! Sudano Sahelian architecture, Bamileke architecture Akan and Ashanti architecture, Nubian and other Sudanese architecture, as various indegenious styles of architecture had more than one storey. Look up for example the Kushite palace of Karanog and count how many storeys are there. Look up Oursi Hu-beero an 11th century two storey mansion found Burkina Faso. Look up traditional Nubian architecture and again count how many stories an average house had. In fact look at all these European illustrations of indegenious architecture, now if these were built by Arabs or by Europeans by all means prove it and debunk this history, and don't just talk cite your sources and let's see.
@@admirekashiri9879 Well in the video he said he welcomed any knowledge to the contrary of what he was saying, so it might be worthwhile mentioning those things to him and then getting his response? I for one would happily read the resulting conversation and if it is cordial and balanced then whatever the outcome we would all be the wiser for it!
@@danielwhite1135 He is lying he doesn't welcome anything. Anyway someone soon will debunk his nonsense in a video hopefully he responds. He has a clear agenda to undermine black people and Africa I see that now.
I remember you saying in one of your previous videos that you'd be talking more about the original indigenous people of Africa. I'm sure many of us would be interested in what you have to say on that subject.
There seems to be a black desperation to show they had advanced culture, which is why Rakwanda is so popular among modern blacks. Necessity is the mother of invention, &, as nothing changed in Africa, no advances were made. There is no shame in this, it is what it is, but blacks can not seemingly face up to this reality
What reality, that on the inside you secretly what European society to kick the bucket by promoting eternal dependency among the African populace to Europe. Judging from your profile your not a woman, do you think any man of any society is going to go and say they built nothing and start thanking every foreign person for aid? Do you think that the centuries of not being taught African history in the black community has done us any favors? That your version fixed anything short of giving the European children in history class a boost of morale and sense of self importance. No it didn't and its the exact same reason we have this grab for claims on historical precedence. Not to mention degradation of family values and so on, it damaged the black race and we aren't returning to such a defective state.
Since Africa was and is so poor and havent contributed anything to modern civilisation, why cant European governments leave them alone to build their countries in their own way. I guess you are the ones building all the great houses in many parts of Africa in this modern day and age. Wicked people will always pass on their racists attitude to others under claims on wanting to speak about history.
@@meteorstorm415the only thing that damaged the black race are BLACKS and if they refuse to be thankful and admit defeat then we should refuse to do anything else for them.
Lets do a film of it with white characters playing some of the roles. Surely we've been there for centuries and centuries like they say about being here.
Take a moment and Google Britsh ships from the 1700s. Then imagine the level of technology that built these ships and the tools the men had available at the time. Also, the sails and riggings are nothing short of a complicated equation in the form of the geometry of cloth and wind. Then there is navigation beyond the shoreline across the seas with a displinced crew along with rations and the ability to return home. Now look at Africa in the same period or even from Victorian photographs and tell me all civilizations are equal. If you took that ship from the 1700s minus a crew and placed it in an African harbor it would sit and rot before it could ever be reverse-engineered. Sorry to sound so harsh but I am sick of this Afro-Centric Fan Fiction being taught as history. it is long past the time for a reality check.
Incans didn't have wheels too yet had the largest empire in the Americas. Aztecs had one of the most densely populated cities in the world without the wheel too
In case you missed it, "In Sub-Saharan Africa there was no writing, no buildings with upper storeys, no wheels, no machinery, no roads....left to their own devices those living in Africa below the Equator didn't come up with any of these ideas". 6:04
And incase you didn't read my comment I debunked that bs. So you claim there was no writing, actually that's nonsense there was writing however proto forms of scripts like Nisibidi, and the Songhai symbols. Kushites created the Meroitic script yes it derived from Egyptian Hyroglphics, however do did the European scripts such as the Hellenistic Greek script, the later Latin script derives from so if that fact takes anything away from the Kushites it takes away from Europeans to technically. There are only a few places on Earth where you see scripts without outside influence those are usually cradles of civilization! You claim there were no buildings with upper stories. 🤦🏿♂️ you clearly don't know much about Africa do you Simon. This stupid misconception has been debunked! Sudano Sahelian architecture, Bamileke architecture Akan and Ashanti architecture, Nubian and other Sudanese architecture, as various indegenious styles of architecture had more than one storey. Look up for example the Kushite palace of Karanog and count how many storeys are there. Look up Oursi Hu-beero an 11th century two storey mansion found Burkina Faso. Look up traditional Nubian architecture and again count how many stories an average house had. In fact look at all these European illustrations of indegenious architecture, now of these were built by Arabs or by Europeans by all means Simon prove it and debunk this history, and don't just talk cite your sources and let's see. Ofcourse the wheel wasn't used if you knew the history of the wheel you'd know it didn't spring up out of nowhere all over Eurasia amd North Africa. I presume you did since your so educated, if not I'll spoon feed you some facts. The wheel is an invention which Came about from Eurasians who first domesticated the horse. The earliest evidence of the wheel is found in Mesopatamia if I remember correctly however, some scholars believe it was used first before them further North closer to.the Eurasian Steppe. The wheel spread along with the spread of the horse and its domestication. At some point the horse and chariot entered Northern Africa and other parts of Eurasia and thus the idea of the wheel was incorporated. Originslly the ancient Egyptian civilization didn't have the wheel they got it from the Hyksos. Those who were isolated from this obviously didn't come up with the concept due to isolation and other factors such as the beasts of burden used to utilize the wheel e.g horses weren't present. thus the reason why the South American civilizations like the Inca, Mayans, Aztecs, Olmec etc didn't utilize the wheel, plus with the tsetse fly which kills animals like horses it would have been impractical. In more suitable regions it was used and spread such as Kush! Yes Nubians had the wheel as did the Garamantes of North Africa. no machinery, why even mention machinery exactly? no roads. There were roads used for trade I'm West Africa actually however they were not paved and in the forest region.they had to maintain them constantly to keep them clear. I believe it was the Benin kingdom or the Ashanti which had these roads. Now I wait for your response let's see what you have for me Simon.
@power he is a slick old man. I actually thought he was comimg with a balanced early on then he started talking so much nonsense from claiming the Kushite kings were Egyptian to denying Mali even existed. I've been saying this so many times he has an agenda against Africa for some reason.
@@admirekashiri9879 you take it as a personal attack, that you are somehow lesser or inferior, seems like insecurity to me. So what were the survival pressures of equatorial Africa, did they require roads, machines, food storage, robust defenses like thick stone walls and castles, or could they simply get by with sharp sticks, rocks, and grass huts? Is it not enough to know that humans evolved in the rift valley, so all of us originated in Africa, no matter how much resistance we have to UV light? I live above the 45th parallel, not much sunlight here even in summer with very long days, and its very short days in winter, so vitamin D production is a problem for people here. My black friends all end up taking supplements of D, they don't get anywhere near enough sunlight because the melanin blocks the UV light so effectively. That is why we have lighter skin when we come from northern latitudes, its a product of the environment, and people make far too big a deal about UV resistance. Its reality, and reality is not an attack. Where people have a need for something, they will develop it. Where there is harsh living conditions with severe survival pressure, the more capable and aware will devise a means of not starving and freezing to death. Hypothermia is one hell of a motivator, believe me its April 30th and its just barely 56F here. Just a week ago it was 20F here. Native Americans came up with ways to survive in this environment, but they didn't have a space program either, yet they don't get pissy when someone says they didn't build two story houses or have a written language. They didn't need them. You can employ sharpshooter fallacies all you want, but the fact of the matter is when food and shelter are not your greatest priority, you won't need to develop much beyond gathering it. Africa simply ran into people who had not only endured, but thrived in a cold inhospitable place for centuries, so they had different ideas, different methods due to very different needs. Stop being so damn resentful and just be you. You can benefit from all of human advancement, or you can be pissed off that not getting sunburned and having easy access to food means you didn't invent much. Two of the most beautiful girls I dated in my travels around the world were from West Africa, Togo and Ivory Coast, they were wonderful and fun to be around....but that was more than 30 years ago. Now people are resentful rather than wanting to enjoy life.
I have been through the zimbabwe ruins a number of times and they are quite impressive. My question is, if the local people had the knowledge to build such a structure, all those years ago, why is there nothing else to be seen in the country to indicate that the knowledge had been passed down to others. i.e. if a group of people build a skyscraper they do not do it once, they carry on and build others, bigger and better.
Whites created ruins when they invade and destroy. Did it all over the earth. Or white just occupy structures claiming they came up with the idea 1st. Like Starforts all over earth.
There are others around Zimbabwe and South Africa. The claim that you must know mathematics or how to read and write in order to build a complex structure is bogus. People were building with and without arithmetic around the world. Go and research about the other ruins scattered around Zimbabwe and South Africa
I would love to hear your thoughts on the these new claims that the Australian aboriginals were actually agriculturally advanced. Storing food in silos, domestic plants, sowing, harvesting, irrigating ect. There is a book going around called ‘Black Emu’ which asserts a number of primary and secondary sources confirm this. I can’t help but be skeptical in light of the recent over politicisation of non-western history.
Hey Simon, you forgot Wakanda! The most advanced and sophisticated African civilization! 🤣🤣🤣 Furthermore, there are several videos on UA-cam about the mundari tribes in Sudan taking cow's urine showers.🐄🚿 They are the people who allegedly taught us how to take a shower! 🤣🤣🤣
I'm sorry to have to call you out on this line, Simon - "The kind of thing which in Europe were being erected in the Bronze Age" - Skara Brae is Neolithic. 😄
They wuz astronauts, industrialists, nuclear physicists, brain surgeons, architects but unfortunately the invention of the wheel was too difficult for these brilliant scientists.
Let me guess: 1. African roman empire 2 . African viking empire 3. African British empire Was I close? If not give it 10 years and they will have revised history enough for it to be true
I have been told that sub Saharan civilizations were great exactly because they did not have writing, math and the sciences; No science based medicine. They were great because they didn't have art or big useless buildings. Seriously, I have recently been told this by dark skinned intellectuals here in California.
Yes, dry stone walls up to 36 feet high (that alone suggests some degree of skill in dressing the stone and building it up) covering a site of around 1,800 acres. The site was occupied from around the 11th to the 15th centuries. It would be interesting to know whether it was first enclosed with wooden walls, or was stone used from the start. Castles in Britain and Europe also had wooden walls and buildings within up to the early 12th century, when stone began to replace first the outer walls and then later the internal buildings. Mocking Great Zimbabwe by comparing it to Salisbury Cathedral is ridiculous, as the two places have very different usages. Why not compare its walls with European city walls from a similar date (a few still survive in part), or compare Salisbury with far older Temple complexes from ancient Egypt. I don't have a problem with knocking the pretensions of idiots who might claim this Shona site is a civilisation on a par with European countries in the Middle Ages, because that is patent nonsense. It was built because of it's important position on a trade route across Southern Africa. When that route declined or fell into disuse, the site was abandoned. In that way it's similar to ancient Nubia on the Upper Nile, which was on an important staging post on the trade routes between central Africa and Egypt.
I really don’t blame you, having lived in England myself and seen the destruction and dysfunction that Mass immigration from the 3rd world has brought to your country, but can’t you credit Africans with anything at all?. This is most likely an opinion that solidified in you when you lived in occupied Palestine . A place where racism and apartheid are common as muck.
I don’t know if you have been to Zimbabwe, but I have visited Great Zimbabwe and was puzzled by its construction as I couldn’t understand the function of very high wall in what looked like cattle pens. Then it occurred to me the livestock being kept could probably climb. As it codeveloped at the same time as Muslim were trading down the the east coast of Africa a unique trade item that needed special caging.
Arabs and muslim religion started around 700AD. There are ruins in Zimbabwe that go back to 400AD - 200BC please explain how it could have possibly been a semetic culture.
You've spoken enough truth to make people of certain political persuasions very uncomfortable. I saw a reddit post with the usual soy-infused NPC's circlejerking about how terrible and inaccurate one of your videos on Africa was. I'll admit, I was actually concerned, but upon reading the comments I noticed a complete lack of actual substance in the accusations. The only substantive ones suggested that you did not accurately represent the art and architecture of the time. Lo and behold, upon looking at these things for myself, you did a far better job of representing these cultures than the idiots on reddit did. For some reason, leftists interpret certain statements of fact regarding foreign cultures as judgement calls regarding their peoples' value. I can definitively say here, that the quality of African architecture or science or art has no bearing on the fundamental dignity I ascribe Africans as human beings. Leftists apparently don't feel this way.
Strange how they invented this that and the rest, but when we got there they still hadn’t invented the wheel, and when the women have to walk miles for water looks like they still haven’t. Surely just a wheel barrow to carry The water Hmm
it’s apparent you don’t watch UA-cam. You constantly reference to the thumbnail, and I have to and I assume as do others, exit your video, look at the thumbnail and then decide to click back on your video. The way UA-cam animates thumbnails, our eye can only follow the highlighted box. that is, you can only view one thumbnail at a time, the one that the selection box is highlighting. And when you move the box onto a thumbnail it immediately animates it into a bunch of gibberish cartoonish type movements. I hate the UA-cam thumbnails.
i always try o tell this politely to those afrocentrists, but they don't want to learn then they put forward stuff like" muh historians say" and then they are buzffled by the counter of" as a historian i don't agree with the one side" i always try to not belittle what achievement there was, but there were so few
I had a black (American) co worker who used to brag that blacks built the pyramids and invented algebra. I used to just shake my head. If I would have called him out on it he would have reported me as a racist or wanted to fight in the parking lot. I'm surprised that YT hasn't given you a hard time for it. You're the only one with the balls to call them out.
Axum was an african civilization. I wonder why people with eurocentric views try to discredit african views. I found this video to be accurate until what you said didn't make sense 🤦🏾♂️
@@Mark_-ye6qn Didn't build anything according to what exactly?? Even Simon here can't deny we build GZ and other structures lole this. As for writing yes most Africans didn't write but news flash others did way before the 1800s try again.
It was a Semitic civilization located in Africa. To this day, Ethiopians, Eritreans and Somalis look very different that there rest of (Bantu) Sub-Saharan Africa. You can see it in the structure of their faces if not their complexions.
I've said for years that those born into peasant culture in hot countries don't have to do much to develop and live. They can sleep where they like and get by. Those from cold countries such as northern Europe have had to educate and develop because if we didn't we'd die. Cold weather makes one inventive.
Much of European achievements started from the Mediterranean cultures, and there is much less environmental pressure there than further north, but there was some and the bigger nations there were geologically well situated to benefit and adopt knowledge from a wide area.
That theory wouldn't explain why the Ancient Egyptians were thousands of years ahead in terms of development compared to their Sub Saharan neighbours further up the Nile.
Cold weather will make them smarter, but civilisation is linked with agriculture. Where agriculture starts, civilisations are soon to follow. For obvious reasons. But not all the civilisations are the same. You look at India and its magnificent temples and think 'wow, what an advanced civilisation'. Only that most of the people there survived humiliated and exploited in primitive huts. At the same time in Greece, Italy, Germanic world and basically everywhere in Europe to an extent, there were civilisations built by free equal citizens, not by abusive elites treating the rest as cattle. This was unique to Europe. The polis, the burg and so on. A large part of the population was urbanised, very skilled in various trades, with spare income and spare free time to study and read. They were also fighting not forced, but willing, as to preserve their individual freedom. Compared to the rest of the world where people were fighting forced by their rulers or with the incentive of plunder.
@power indeed not just that don't forget the Kushite architecture, the Akan and Ashanti architecture the Sudano Sahelian architecture the Bamileke architecture and dozens others that had multi-storey buildings. Old Simon here doesn't do his research.
Arabs of southern Arabia didn’t go into Ethiopia to create Aksum. As the name Aksum itself is mixed. “Ak” meaning water in agew. & “sum” meaning chief or master in Ethiopic / Ge’ez. Also the Ge’ez script predates Arabic. However it has close resemblance to greek. Secondly when talking about the languages of Amharic & it’s sounds. It’s mostly closely related to Akkadian & Aramaic both dead biblical languages spoken during the times of the Bible. Also according to religious texts (not the Bible) it says that the children of Moses & Abraham where Ethiopians. Which thus explains our Semitic origins. Also southern Arabia was inhabited by Jews. Not Arabs as Arabs are a mixed people mixed with Mesopotamian Persian green & even african. In terms of Aksum not being African. The oldest churches are found not in Tigray or Eritrea. They are found in the Amhara region. Churches dating back to the 6th & 5th century. As other churches of such age aren’t found (also along with remnants of Jewish synagogues & graves) which corroborate the biblical & judeo origin of the “Ethiopians”. As their semtic origins aren’t from southern Arabia but the levant & canaan.
He doesn't care they spoke Semitic this they weren't African thsts his stupid logic 😂😂. And they were from Yemen but biblically speaking Seba is a child of Cush ancestor of black people but I don't think Simon is religious so he doesn't believe that. But either way why did the ancient Hebrews make such a connection if the people weren't related in some way or shape?
Arabs of Himyer tribe went and invaded the horn not just ethiopia, just like they went north to Mecca and Medina and JOrdan , and ruled and still the most dominant tribes although with different name but till early islamic age they were stll call themselves Arabs , the language is actually Arabic (not tha Quaranic Arabic) as there is more than 4 Arabic languages share the same grammar and origin so your claim that GE'EZ is older is nonsense as the oldest and earliest Himyeri writing is found in Saba'a and still more than 80000 yeminis speaking the old language
If it wasn’t for the Renaissance followed by the enlightenment then it wouldn’t be irrational to say that the world would still be as it had always been. Europe would probably still be mediaeval, the Islamic world imperialistic, China isolationist and Africa and the Americas lost in time. There would be no scientific enquiry, no industrial revolution, no medical progress, no globalisation. War, famine and plague would still be prevalent and slavery would still be the norm and there would be no relief for your toothaches, migraines or poor eyesight. So next time anyone who wants to condemn European colonialism just have a moment’s thought first
Simon still confusing cultural & linguistic influences with colonisation. If Ethiopia was just a Semitic colony at the time of Axum (which it wasn't, according to archaeology) how to explain later medieval Ethiopian civilisation? Was Napoleonic France simply a Roman colony (French being derived from Latin and the script coming from Latin) and were the indigenous French therefore incapable of creating civilisation? At least, Ethiopians invented their own script unlike the French (or the English for that matter)! It's all terribly simplistic and misleading. Another video designed to cater to the prejudices of Simon's ignorant and bigoted audience.
@@admirekashiri9879 Good advice. I have kept away from this channel for the last 6 months for the sake of my sanity and because I have better things to do. Came back to check for reaction to the George Floyd verdict but found nothing had changed.
@@glbale Same here I saw the image (I'm Zimbabwean) then had to see what he was saying. And he is still here undermining black people and its worse now he lying like wtf claiming the Mali empire was created by Arabs and Tuaregs when no Arab ot Tuareg clai such BS. Then the stuff he said about Aksum again long debunked the empire was not a colony of the Sabaeans the relationship between Seba and East Africa was not one sided. He has finally shown his true colours. In his earlier videos he seemed unbiased but, it was all a game.
@@admirekashiri9879 I might have come in a bit later than you as his schtick was already apparent. I think it was a video where Simon was claiming that the Grand Mosque of Djenne was a French colonial building and he compared it to the previous mosque on the site, using a French postcard that clearly stated that it was of the ruins of the previous mosque (showing a ruined adobe wall) but Simon gave the impression that the ruins WERE the previous mosque (which I understand was very large by the way). Then there was a video where Simon attacked a book because it had black pharoahs in the title even though it was about the 25th Nubian dynasty which is about as uncontroversial example of black pharaohs as one can get. I have a book from the early 60's referring to that dynasty as black. I challenged him on that and he claimed with no evidence at all that the 25th dynasty may have been the descendants of Egyptian governors of the New Kingdom (i.e. hundreds of years before, and if they had any descendants in Nubia by then they would have been totally Nubian anyway). Sadly it's what his followers want to hear to give their racism validation. Simon is like a one man National Front information office.
@@glbale Ye early on he started talking about bronze age settlements in Europe like GZ not being cities I said ok that's find atlesst he isn't claiming GZ as European or Arab and he is making a bit of sense. Then he continued on to the other stuff you mentioned which made me realize this man has an agenda.
People marvel at how people in Zimbabwe or the Incas built high walls without mortar, and how this shows great ingenuity. Do you know what would be more impressive? If they'd actually been able to invent mortar!
"I have a particular interest in, and extensive knowledge of; terrorism in Victorian and Edwardian Britain," Now that would be very interesting. Perhaps not as much in focus today, but still very interesting.
I believe your judgement of Aksum is purposefully lazy. You describe it as if it was just an Arab kingdom that just extended into East Africa which isn’t really true. When really, the Kingdom of Dm’t is more accurate to your statement. The Kingdom of D’mt was probably established by Yemeni colonists. Aksum was a city state in Ethiopia that rose to become the Aksumite Empire half a thousand years after D’mt collapsed. And they developed a written script without any outside influence. They only reached into Yemen in the 500s, when they colonized it themselves. Yes, they were Africans, i’ll admit with Semitic culture, that colonized outwards of the continent.
In all fairness, what did the early Britons leave behind, until the Romans came, conquered them, and taught them how to build with stone? Or the Picts, Irish, etc? Even the Gauls in what is now France, what stone work did they leave behind that exists today?
@@admirekashiri9879 Perhaps. But it's a complicated issue to be sure. I've seen similar posts and I don't think the OP's really thought it through. Another good example I can think of are the native Americans. Apparently they all came from the same source, Siberia, yet those in the far south, the Mexica, Aztecs, Maya, Inca, built amazing stone cities and temples. While those in the north, the area of the USA didn't leave much behind at all. The Pueblo in the area of the southern USA built a bit with stone and brick, but mostly mud and the arid area preserved some of it. And there are a few odd stone structures here and there whose origin is still unknown, but most of the tribes built with sticks and hides. What drives humans to build with various materials is an interesting and complicated issue.
Hmmmm! Stonehenge, there are many other examples, but the point is, having learned from the Romans, civilisation in UK advanced, what happened in SubSaharan Africa?? Because when Europeans began to colonise Africa, there was no evidence of any former ‘ great civilisations ‘ and why would the populace across the whole continent regress so much?
@@admirekashiri6651 : Clearly you haven’t either, there is little to no evidence of any advanced early civilisation anywhere in Sub Saharan Africa, that wasn’t influenced by Mediterranean or Europe cultures, no written language, no written history, nothing
Here we go again, you're back attacking and undermining African cultures seriously don't you get tired of this nonsense Simon? Firstly you're comparing Great Zimbabwe to Europe a region of the world which was heavily influenced by North Africa and the Middle East in various areas such as architecture, writing, mathematics, philosophy and various areas, while my ancestors weren't a part of this constant movement of ideas and knowledge so what do you expect? Like why even compare? Is this a damn competition? Plus you don't know anything about the culture of my ancestors clearly Simon so best not to talk about what they did or didn't have. And Aksum has been proven to be an African culture already the civilization or culture of D'mt wasn't Sabaean, plus what was believed to be Sabaean colonization or occupation didn't even last a century, the truth is the East Africans adopted elements of Sabaean culture however, they did not throw away their original culture. You're wrong yet again. And the Malinke were building structures over one storey long before the colonial Europeans even thought of colonising Africa. Do better research Sudano Sahelian architecture was mud architecture yes! In the climate mud and mudbrick structures were more suitable. Like literally mud and mudbrick were used all over the world including parts of the Middle East. This is why you don't see explorerd who visited Mali mock the Sudano Sahelian architecture. Hek even most ancient Egyptian cities were built out of mud and mudbrick. And boy you Eurocentrics are pathetic the Mali Empire was founded by the Mande people before them there was the Soninke empire of Wagadu which Arabs themselves made not of discovering after invading North Africa. No Arab source claims Amazigh or Arabs established the cultures and civilizations of the Western Sudanic. Seriously you're giving false information are you not ashamed? Yes they adopted the Arabic script however, what you fail to realizs is the script was changed a bit I'm order to write ingenious African languages. You think in they were ruled by Arabs and Amazigh ingenious languages, customs and laws would have been prevent in the region? Come on Simon you're showing your biased ignorance now, I had respect for you at first but you've proven you're just an ignorant Eurocentric.
There's a young Englishman who travels the world on a small Honda motorcycle. He remarked one time that the bedroom he slept in as a teenager was older than Machu Picchu. The Western fascination with Machu Picchu seems a bit silly in that light.
Why is it that everyone who comments on this channel tries so desperately to sound educated? Not only that, but you all seem to imitate and use Simon's colloquialisms. I enjoy this channel very much as well - but at least I'm honest enough to say - I don't know Jack. Or as all of you imitators would say - "indeed".
Axum empire, a wonderful European civilization huh? Lmaoo man you all are so delusional. Just cant accept the fact that black africans had kingdoms and civilizations
I disagree about Zimbabwe. They clearly had the plow, no black people ever invented that. It came from Egypt so not only did the idea spread that way over thousands of years but the concepts of building stone structures.
Oh my gosh iron smelting did not come with every bantu tribe some where cattle hearders and farmers but did not have iron smelting whilst some where cattle herders and farmers and had iron smelting some learnt the trade from incoming migrating tribes. The people's to arrive first on the limpompo around 400BC had no iron smelting why do you think the culture of drystone walls arose there where originally defensive not in the way you think. Imagine you have no iron smelting and you have to defend yourself against incoming tribes from your territory in a place like the limpompo thats why they made drystone walling. The walls where made before the people learnt hoe to iron smelt. Instead they had a very primitive type of metallurgy . For farming you donot realy need metallurgy when you are starting the last and final phase of bantu migration started from 600BC to 1000AD.
@shanewalkingdead8258 Some Berber taught them that then pre colonialism. If you feel these achievements were made independently of Arabs, Berbers and a thousand years later with the Europeans, then why does Africa still suck? You don't just forget these things. And sorry stacking stones on top of each other is the most basic of endeavors. Atleast the Berbers taught them something but this isn't what you should write home about. The rest of the world my culture included are perfectly happy with our achievements. What is sad about your whole community is when you leave Malariai-ica you see actual civilizations and are p**&& envious. That is why you constantly attempt to steal and take other cultures' for your own.
Funny how Simon when same exact thing happens in Europe you don’t apply the same logic as you apply to Africa. The Romans and Greeks viewed the Europeans as barbaric and without culture, seen them themselves as different, yet they are still classified as “white”. The same happens in Africa yet they are somehow different. You have no proof at all that they were not black and no basis for your claim that people that are not in subsaharan Africa as not black. There is no scientific basis for your claim at all.
@Casca from the University of Cambridge I enjoy posting this on this site: Were the Ancient Egyptians Africans? What colour was their skin? Yes. Egypt is in Africa and there are many cultural links to other African civilisations. If we look at the skin colour and also facial features on representations of Egyptians, many are what we would consider today to be Black African. Skin colours on temple and wall reliefs show ranges between dark brown and black, which is typical of what we see today with regard to people of Black African descent or origin. Furthermore, Nubians, a group who are accepted universally as Black Africans are, like their neighbours from Kemet, shown on reliefs with both jet black and red-brown skin and can be distinguished as Nubians by their short wigs. Many statues have lost their original skin colour. Sometimes colours were used by the Egyptians symbolically, so for example a statue of a god or royal person would painted gold to represent immortality. If we leave colour aside for a moment, we can also find out a great deal from looking at the facial features shown on Egyptian statues. Here, there can be no doubt that we are dealing with people who were African. Faces were broad with high cheekbones and the jaws are typically strong. The noses are also broad and the lips are generally full and fleshy in appearance. www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/dept/ant/egypt/kemet/virtualkemet/faq/
Great Zimbabwe is not the peak of "Subsaharan" African civilisation that would be Ancient Nubia in Sudan and the West African Empires (Ancient Ghana, Mali, Songhai, Kanem Bornu for example)
@@stevenkeating225 Aksum has been proven to be an African culture and civilization already. The civilization or culture of D'mt which came before wasn't Sabaean, plus what was believed to be Sabaean colonization or occupation didn't even last a century, the truth is the East Africans adopted elements of Sabaean culture however, they did not throw away their original culture. And the Malinke (people of Mali) were building structures over one storey long before the colonial Europeans even thought of colonising Africa. Research Sudano Sahelian architecture, yes this was mudbrick architecture! In the climate mud and mudbrick structures were more suitable for keeping cool than stone. Like literally mud and mudbrick were used all over the world including parts of the Middle East. This is why you don't see explorerd who visited Mali mock the Sudano Sahelian architecture. Hek even most ancient Egyptian cities were built out of mud and mudbrick. And what he said about the Mali Empire is total BS! The empire was founded by the Mande people before them there was the Soninke empire of Wagadu which Arabs themselves made note of discovering after invading North Africa. No Arab source claims Amazigh or Arabs established the cultures and civilizations of the Western Sudanic. Simon here is giving you people Eurocentric false information. Yes the people of Mali adopted the Arabic script however, what you people fail to realize id the script was changed a bit in order to write in indegenious African languages. You think if they were ruled by Arabs or tge Amazigh indegenious languages, customs and laws would have been prevent in the region? Simon was here showing his biased ignorance now, I had respect for him at first, bur he has proven he is just another ignorant Eurocentric.
@@stevenkeating225 at the end he went on to say there was no writing, actually that's nonsense there was writing however proto forms of scripts like Nisibidi, and the Songhai symbols. Kushites created the Meroitic script yes it derived from Egyptian Hyroglphics, however so did the European scripts such as the Hellenistic Greek script which the later Latin script derives from. So, if the fact the script derives from another culture takes anything away from the Kushites it should takes away from Europeans too technically since the Hellenstic script and Latin script both derive from Phoenician and that in turn derives from ancient Egyptian Hyroglphics. There are only a few places on Earth where you see scripts without outside influence those are usually cradles of civilization! Egypt, China, Mesopatamia, Mesoamerica and Indus Valley for example Simon claims there were no buildings with upper stories. 🤦🏿♂️ he clearly doesn't know much about African styles of architecture. This stupid old misconception has been debunked! Sudano Sahelian architecture, Bamileke architecture Akan and Ashanti architecture, Nubian and other Sudanese architecture, as various indegenious styles of architecture had more than one storey. Look up for example, the Kushite palace of Karanog and count how many storeys are there. Look up Oursi Hu-beero an 11th century two storey mansion found Burkina Faso. Look up traditional Nubian architecture and again count how many stories an average house had. In fact look at all these European illustrations of indegenious architecture. Now, if these were built by Arabs or by Europeans by all means I want you and or Simon prove it and debunk this history, and don't just talk cite your sources and let's see. Then when it comes to the statements about the wheel. Well ofcourse the wheel wasn't used if you knew the history of the wheel you'd know it didn't spring up out of nowhere all over Eurasia and North Africa. I presume he did since your so educated, but I guess not. The wheel is an invention which came about from early Eurasians who first domesticated the horse. The earliest evidence of the wheel is found in Mesopatamia if I remember correctly however, some scholars believe it was used first before them further North closer to.the Eurasian Steppe. The wheel spread along with the spread of the horse and its domestication. At some point the horse and chariot entered Northern Africa and other parts of Eurasia and thus the idea of the wheel was incorporated. Originslly the ancient Egyptian civilization didn't have the wheel they got it from the Hyksos. Those who were isolated from this obviously didn't come up with the concept due to isolation and other factors such as the beasts of burden used to utilize the wheel e.g horses weren't present. thus the reason why the South American civilizations like the Inca, Mayans, Aztecs, Olmec etc didn't utilize the wheel, plus with the tsetse fly which kills animals like horses it would have been impractical. In more suitable regions it was used and spread such as Kush! Yes Nubians had the wheel as did the Garamantes of North Africa. Then he said no roads. There were roads used for trade in West Africa actually however, they were not paved and they were in the forest regions. The roads had to maintain them constantly to keep them clear. I believe it was the Benin kingdom or the Ashanti which had these roads.
Claiming Mali is Berbers or Arab is utter nonsense! The ruling class in Mali and the Mali empire were Mande speaking people, Mansa Musa was Mande. & yes the Sudano-Sahelian architecture features Adobe clay bricks, much like most of the architecture of Ancient Egypt (they reserved stone for temples & pyramids) Palaces included. Attributing any of the West African Empires to "Arabs"/Berbers is dog whistle racism, & who or what a Berber is up for debate whbe you consider the Tuareg for example.
I would suggest, at the beginning of videos like this, clarifying exactly what is meant by African - clearly in this case you mean Sub-Saharan African. I can otherwise see far too many people arguing on a semantic point.
@@admirekashiri9879 I think you will find it’s all facts or they wouldn’t let it be shown on you tube . Cos they don’t want to offend all you morons who want credit where it’s not due
Nonsense, they are far more advanced technologically, look at Lagos for instance. Inhabitants all zooming around on their anti-gravity hoverboards. They also had a large hadron collider in 956,it was built from twigs, mud and poo.
Benin bronzes are original, but if you see the ancient European art, like only the things exposed to public in Vatican museum, you will have your mind blown away. Benin bronzes look like child's play compared to those. Not to mention those ancient European artworks are like 1500 years earlier than Benin bronzes and almost no Greco-Roman bronzes survived, being melted. Probably the bronze horses in Venice, looted from Constantinople are the only examples of ancient European bronze masterpieces surviving.
@@mdaniel5384 what ancient art? Greco Roman art? Or Germanic, Slavic, Finno Ugric, and Celtic art? Please share this superior art from these other Europeans who weren't Greco Roman.
@@admirekashiri9879 @Admire Kashiri I see what you mean. Actually Celts left great and original artworks. Just search for Celtic treasures or Celtic art. Old Germanic People also left great and specific treasures like Sutton Hoo, Childeric tomb, or Apahida Treasures. I bet Finland have some art in their museums, while for Hungary, you will be surprised, they really have a lot to show of. Slavs also created several states that all have more or less stuff to impress. Especially Russians, Poles and Czechs.
History, schmistory, who cares what happened millennia ago; it's today's so-called civilisation that matters. The current African civilisation, how appealing is it to you? Are you desperately seeking to migrate to any African country?? If not, why not?? Same goes for the Middle East.....
@R T the video is in the context of the myths of afro-centrists. They falsify history because they have no glory in the present, so it's fair to focus only on the present and not address their lies at all.
@R T So what has it taught you?? not a lot obviously. "people have made it their life work to figure history out", that's their choice, again, so what??
@@admirekashiri9879 when it was discovered by Europeans, and they asked the Shona who lived around it who built it, they did not know, and could not comprehend themselves how such a structure had been built.
@@cheekibreeki4492 Nonsense! I'm Shona we didn't not claim such things. It's known Mwene Mutapa Chingwanu Rusvingo is the one who ordered this to be built plus mind you there are dozens of other ruins scattered across the region one my own direct ancestor took from his rival. Based on archeaology and excavations its Bern proven the Shona/Karanga and our cousins built and ruled this region.
@@admirekashiri9879 there is no archeological evidence that Great Zimbabwe was constructed by the Shona. While your ancestors may have inhabited the area, that is not proof that they constructed these buildings. I understand the temptation to claim that they did.
Is this what we are doing we ignore all the African art that was stolen and act like African;s were not the ones to settle the Arab and Hindu Nations? Really is this what we are doing. While Europeans were running around naked there were no highly educated people with no written language and performing surgeries and charting the stars. Europeans have always had a very smug view of themselves.
At Cape Ottway in Victoria there’s a replica of an aboriginal house which looks a bit like an igloo. The breeze off the Southern Ocean probably made it a bit impractical to live under a kangaroo skin or suchlike.
Quite right. As for Great Zimbabwe it's actual origins go back to Mapungubwe on the other side of the Limpopo in South Africa. Unwelcome facts for some with an axe to grind. The only technology they seem to have developed on their own was the ability to smelt copper and iron and all those crafts were kept secret from your average peasant.
I remember reading that when Portuguese and Spanish first came across sub saharan Africans there were 4 issues that stood out. 1. no written language 2. No two story dwellings 3. No calendar 4. No domesticated animals.. And yet lve been told that Mozart was black, septimus Severus was black, black musicians in Henry v111s Court etc etc and the reason nobody knows this is because of white Europeans rewriting history... Hahaha
In 1691, the Portuguese ship captain Lourenco Pinto observed: “Great Benin, where the king resides, is larger than Lisbon; all the streets run straight and as far as the eye can see. The houses are large, especially that of the king, which is richly decorated and has fine columns. The city is wealthy and industrious. It is so well governed that theft is unknown and the people live in such security that they have no doors to their houses.”
If this is allowed to continue it won't matter what actually happened. History is being highjacked and our great-grandchildren will believe that everything beautiful and good was built by SSA and only wars and racism is a European trait.
So much truth hidden, so much wisdom eschewed to establish faux narratives...It is nice to see a gentleman such as yourself push back against hatred and ignorance. Subscribed and up voted
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Highly advanced, Just like Wakanda hahhahhahahahha
Wakanda was a racist society. Where was the diversity? And they deemed themselves superior to the rest of the world which apparently is run by white people.
It's was invented by two white comic writers stan lee and Jack kiby
@@rickyj5547 White?
@@oyvey304 Why do you say that? Because he was Jewish?
@@interestedbystander196 He? They were both Jewish.
And if left to their own devices they would still be living that way to this day
They would prefer it. They're living sustainably, from the earth and back into the earth. Your "progress" is just setting up your extinction. More radiation, pollution, cancer, obesity and self destruction. So evolved arent you? lmao
@@Andu_music ah the romantic stupidity of the idealized savage.
@@MrLookatmyhat 20th century Afrocentrist and Euroecentrist crippling the purity of there history with phantasmal levels of stupidity and master race complexes. Leave it to 21st century people like me to actually respect the idea of independent success in civilizations.
@@meteorstorm415 spoken like a fool that's never needed modern dentistry
@@MrLookatmyhat Oh what I said is true, all you elders can’t comprehend the concept of independent development so you bicker at each for who owes who what.
Then you create suedoscience theory after suedoscience theory trying to make the other look inferior. Lowering the bar of intelligence father and farther until it is a inhuman almost lifeless level of suggested stupidity.
WHAAAAT?? How can you say that- we all know that Michelangelo was black and he painted the Sistine ceiling with spray cans.
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He will be in the next BBC remake.
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For real fam...
True!
While not directly linked to the topic of this video I thought I had better let you know about news I saw earlier. Jane Austen's house museum are now going "woke" investigating her links to slavery. Though it is very known she supported abolition it is not enough to them. They argue she benefited from it from her love of tea and having cotton for her dresses too made her benefit from slavery.
Nice quip. Double plus good
Are they accusing 18th century Indians of enslaving their lower castes?
Don't worry tv adaption of her life story will have a black lover.
@@flybobbie1449 ... and a Chinese mother, for maximum verisimilitude.
And a depressed dog for good measure
I was sold a false bill of goods in university. African History, is what the class was called. What a sham
What he is selling here is false if you didn't notice. He doesn't know what he is talking about.
@@admirekashiri9879 Coming from somebody who does?
They told you African Utopia.
@@thomasmusso1147 yes I know because I've researched this stuff, Simon is just talking and bringing back old debunked nonsense.
Couldn't you have sussed that out before wasting your valuable time?
Don't worry about "pouring cold water" on these fantasies Simon. It's what woke feel to be true that matters to them and has nothing to do with reality and objective truth.
Well most of what he said in this video is false and debunked.
@@admirekashiri9879 Is it hell. Give us some references to show that.
@@admirekashiri9879 You can, of course, supply citations to support your claims?
@@wallyjumblatt yep it is hell sorry.
@@jaimeosbourn3616 they deleted my comment again. UA-cam unfortunately isn't a free platform to share everything. Again I've stated what I've stated debunk me if it's all.false I'll wait.
I have to dispute this I'm afraid. I saw a documentary about a place called Wakanda and they were very advanced indeed!
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All you need to do is document your opinions, and you will not be viewed as a reactionary but a scholar!
😂 I screen shot mine to myself!!! 😂
Ha ha ha ha ha ha 😂😆😂!!!
Are you a kayak denier or are. You thinking about captain America's shield
Try living in Aus. Now its claimed 70,000 years of consistent culture, the oldest in the world! Still knocking sticks together and not much else in-between and its to be lauded as a wonder of the world. You should look into what is being claimed as world firsts such as farming, baking, art and aquaculture. No mathematics, no writing, not even the a square wheel! Nothing but survival and local environment understanding longer that anyone else. Well done!
But.... inventing the big hollow tube that you blow into to make farting noises. ... that's science
Why would you need maths and writing skills to farm or create art or any of the things you listed In fact ?
Understanding the local environment didn't prevent them from hunting several species to extinction just as all other peoples have done.
The power of Hollywood in the form of Crocodile Dundee elevated the 'spirituality & in-tune with Nature' way above its harsh reality I suspect, just as with 'Brave-Fart' did for the Scots ...
@@King-balloon ... the point is that 'enlightenment' and evolution required thinking other than for just subsistence farming and basic art, resulting in massive changes to quality of life, longevity, etc. In fact, it affected the core of the human animal's claim to fame adaptability to survive whilst being the master of no particular 'strength'. One key element of humans that distinguishes it from other animals is the assimilation of information that is passed down in written, or equivalent form that can skip generations so that learning isn't forgotten, or isolated ...
Best civilisation in Africa was the wonderful Great British Empire.
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@@TonyRule I'm not sure about that Sir. Other European nations were also spreading civilisation.
@@hermannhoth6518 British one's were successful until....
@@flybobbie1449 we chose the wrong side in the war. Just like General Patton said.
@@flybobbie1449 ...until Gavrilo Princip ruined everybody's good time.
Well done sir! And for those but hurt because of this video, the truth can't be racist.
Exactly.
"You are racist!" "But these are facts!" "So your facts are racist!"
@@tusk70 Lol
Wrong, not only can everything be racist, everything IS racist:
Milk is racist, math is racist, musical notation is racist, caring about ALL lives is racist, statistics are racist, brick and mortar buildings are racist, not being "black" is racist, grammar is racist, not Buying Large Mansions is racist.....
@@hansemannluchter643 Lol.
They also found symbols with later turned out to be Portuguese and the theory has it the walls are actually the remains of an old Portuguese fort from sailors who were shipwrecked of the coast of Mozambique in about the 1300’s. You can find references to it on google but it’s a touchy subject.
Yeah right... They thought they might build something of home.... Just like those magnificent stone walls of ancient Portugal! Keep looking you might make your fame and fortune discovering them!
Whst symbols snd what fort exactly name it
Is this a 'theory' dating from the days of Rhodesia, when the government then in place did everything they could to downplay the possibility of the site having been built by Africans. Why would shipwrecked Portuguese travel hundreds of miles into the interior to build a large fort rather than construct some kind of defence near the coast until such time as they could be rescued?
@@Africa1000 It’s got to be easy being you! No history at all and no writing at all means schooling on your past is a breeze!
Show me where else blacks made walls, primate.
@@NoahBodze You have nearly 1000s of dry stone walls similar to what you have in Zimbabwe scattered around southern Africa,
Khami, Thulamela to name a few.
You even have similar structure in kenya called Thimlich Ohinga. You can Google these to verify.
Up the road from me is a 2000 year old, what's left of a Roman bath house.
Even local church is Norman 1000 years old.
Tear it down! Romans had slaves lol
The Romans eh. Invented meeting places for haemasecshuls to have a carry-on in. They were way ahead of the sjw curve.
@@hermannhoth6518 All the powerful and wealthy had slaves. It was the White Christian Empires who made the first effort to abolish slavery.
I know right! There’s the remains of an old Roman fort underneath the kid’s park on my road!
As someone who has an interest in history and hates keep hearing ridiculous claims being made in the name of "wokeness" it is good to hear some people who actually know history being honest about it!
Many of the things he said here were absolute nonsense and old misconceptions he didn't do much research or study into these topics.
@@admirekashiri9879 What were the misconceptions and what was the nonsense?
If you could elaborate then perhaps people might have a point of reference to conduct their own research.
@@danielwhite1135 well he claimed there was no writing, that's nonsense there was writing however proto forms of scripts like Nisibidi, and the Songhai symbols. Kushites created the Meroitic script yes it derived from Egyptian Hyroglphics, however so did the European scripts such as the Hellenistic Greek script, the later Latin script derives from so if that fact takes anything away from the Kushites it takes away from Europeans to technically. There are only a few places on Earth where you see scripts without outside influence those are usually cradles of civilization!
Then he went on to claim there were no buildings with upper stories. 🤦🏿♂️ agsin pure nonsense This stupid misconception has been debunked! Sudano Sahelian architecture, Bamileke architecture Akan and Ashanti architecture, Nubian and other Sudanese architecture, as various indegenious styles of architecture had more than one storey. Look up for example the Kushite palace of Karanog and count how many storeys are there. Look up Oursi Hu-beero an 11th century two storey mansion found Burkina Faso. Look up traditional Nubian architecture and again count how many stories an average house had. In fact look at all these European illustrations of indegenious architecture, now if these were built by Arabs or by Europeans by all means prove it and debunk this history, and don't just talk cite your sources and let's see.
@@admirekashiri9879 Well in the video he said he welcomed any knowledge to the contrary of what he was saying, so it might be worthwhile mentioning those things to him and then getting his response?
I for one would happily read the resulting conversation and if it is cordial and balanced then whatever the outcome we would all be the wiser for it!
@@danielwhite1135 He is lying he doesn't welcome anything. Anyway someone soon will debunk his nonsense in a video hopefully he responds. He has a clear agenda to undermine black people and Africa I see that now.
I remember you saying in one of your previous videos that you'd be talking more about the original indigenous people of Africa. I'm sure many of us would be interested in what you have to say on that subject.
What that bullshit about white people being original Africans? 😂 ye good luck with that Eurocentric bs
There seems to be a black desperation to show they had advanced culture, which is why Rakwanda is so popular among modern blacks. Necessity is the mother of invention, &, as nothing changed in Africa, no advances were made. There is no shame in this, it is what it is, but blacks can not seemingly face up to this reality
LOL.
You clearly don't speak to many black people.
What reality, that on the inside you secretly what European society to kick the bucket by promoting eternal dependency among the African populace to Europe.
Judging from your profile your not a woman, do you think any man of any society is going to go and say they built nothing and start thanking every foreign person for aid?
Do you think that the centuries of not being taught African history in the black community has done us any favors? That your version fixed anything short of giving the European children in history class a boost of morale and sense of self importance. No it didn't and its the exact same reason we have this grab for claims on historical precedence. Not to mention degradation of family values and so on, it damaged the black race and we aren't returning to such a defective state.
Since Africa was and is so poor and havent contributed anything to modern civilisation, why cant European governments leave them alone to build their countries in their own way. I guess you are the ones building all the great houses in many parts of Africa in this modern day and age. Wicked people will always pass on their racists attitude to others under claims on wanting to speak about history.
@@meteorstorm415the only thing that damaged the black race are BLACKS and if they refuse to be thankful and admit defeat then we should refuse to do anything else for them.
Lets do a film of it with white characters playing some of the roles. Surely we've been there for centuries and centuries like they say about being here.
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Take a moment and Google Britsh ships from the 1700s. Then imagine the level of technology that built these ships and the tools the men had available at the time. Also, the sails and riggings are nothing short of a complicated equation in the form of the geometry of cloth and wind. Then there is navigation beyond the shoreline across the seas with a displinced crew along with rations and the ability to return home. Now look at Africa in the same period or even from Victorian photographs and tell me all civilizations are equal.
If you took that ship from the 1700s minus a crew and placed it in an African harbor it would sit and rot before it could ever be reverse-engineered. Sorry to sound so harsh but I am sick of this Afro-Centric Fan Fiction being taught as history. it is long past the time for a reality check.
You know you have just given the BBC an idea for a programme entitled How Africans Built Europe.Step forward Lucy Worsley and a “diversity” co host.
She's been given the task of altering history to fit the BBC narrative, beware of these bogas programs.
Apparently the animals in Dudley zoo built Dudley castle in 1270 AD. 😎
Yow mite b rite.
But obviously not the polar bears! 😉
I know the Dudleyonians didn't build it .... too bloody thick .
Read about Stanley and his expeditions in Africa, 1870s 1880s. No roads no wheels.
Incans didn't have wheels too yet had the largest empire in the Americas. Aztecs had one of the most densely populated cities in the world without the wheel too
What you need wheels for when you have camels and donkeys and horses in some parts?
In case you missed it, "In Sub-Saharan Africa there was no writing, no buildings with upper storeys, no wheels, no machinery, no roads....left to their own devices those living in Africa below the Equator didn't come up with any of these ideas". 6:04
And incase you didn't read my comment I debunked that bs.
So you claim there was no writing, actually that's nonsense there was writing however proto forms of scripts like Nisibidi, and the Songhai symbols. Kushites created the Meroitic script yes it derived from Egyptian Hyroglphics, however do did the European scripts such as the Hellenistic Greek script, the later Latin script derives from so if that fact takes anything away from the Kushites it takes away from Europeans to technically. There are only a few places on Earth where you see scripts without outside influence those are usually cradles of civilization!
You claim there were no buildings with upper stories. 🤦🏿♂️ you clearly don't know much about Africa do you Simon. This stupid misconception has been debunked! Sudano Sahelian architecture, Bamileke architecture Akan and Ashanti architecture, Nubian and other Sudanese architecture, as various indegenious styles of architecture had more than one storey. Look up for example the Kushite palace of Karanog and count how many storeys are there. Look up Oursi Hu-beero an 11th century two storey mansion found Burkina Faso. Look up traditional Nubian architecture and again count how many stories an average house had. In fact look at all these European illustrations of indegenious architecture, now of these were built by Arabs or by Europeans by all means Simon prove it and debunk this history, and don't just talk cite your sources and let's see.
Ofcourse the wheel wasn't used if you knew the history of the wheel you'd know it didn't spring up out of nowhere all over Eurasia amd North Africa. I presume you did since your so educated, if not I'll spoon feed you some facts. The wheel is an invention which Came about from Eurasians who first domesticated the horse. The earliest evidence of the wheel is found in Mesopatamia if I remember correctly however, some scholars believe it was used first before them further North closer to.the Eurasian Steppe. The wheel spread along with the spread of the horse and its domestication. At some point the horse and chariot entered Northern Africa and other parts of Eurasia and thus the idea of the wheel was incorporated. Originslly the ancient Egyptian civilization didn't have the wheel they got it from the Hyksos. Those who were isolated from this obviously didn't come up with the concept due to isolation and other factors such as the beasts of burden used to utilize the wheel e.g horses weren't present. thus the reason why the South American civilizations like the Inca, Mayans, Aztecs, Olmec etc didn't utilize the wheel, plus with the tsetse fly which kills animals like horses it would have been impractical. In more suitable regions it was used and spread such as Kush! Yes Nubians had the wheel as did the Garamantes of North Africa.
no machinery, why even mention machinery exactly?
no roads. There were roads used for trade I'm West Africa actually however they were not paved and in the forest region.they had to maintain them constantly to keep them clear. I believe it was the Benin kingdom or the Ashanti which had these roads.
Now I wait for your response let's see what you have for me Simon.
@power he is a slick old man. I actually thought he was comimg with a balanced early on then he started talking so much nonsense from claiming the Kushite kings were Egyptian to denying Mali even existed. I've been saying this so many times he has an agenda against Africa for some reason.
@@admirekashiri9879 ancient Africa had nothing going on until 13th century
@Yuh Yuh Arabs built Mali
@@admirekashiri9879 you take it as a personal attack, that you are somehow lesser or inferior, seems like insecurity to me. So what were the survival pressures of equatorial Africa, did they require roads, machines, food storage, robust defenses like thick stone walls and castles, or could they simply get by with sharp sticks, rocks, and grass huts? Is it not enough to know that humans evolved in the rift valley, so all of us originated in Africa, no matter how much resistance we have to UV light?
I live above the 45th parallel, not much sunlight here even in summer with very long days, and its very short days in winter, so vitamin D production is a problem for people here. My black friends all end up taking supplements of D, they don't get anywhere near enough sunlight because the melanin blocks the UV light so effectively. That is why we have lighter skin when we come from northern latitudes, its a product of the environment, and people make far too big a deal about UV resistance. Its reality, and reality is not an attack.
Where people have a need for something, they will develop it. Where there is harsh living conditions with severe survival pressure, the more capable and aware will devise a means of not starving and freezing to death. Hypothermia is one hell of a motivator, believe me its April 30th and its just barely 56F here. Just a week ago it was 20F here. Native Americans came up with ways to survive in this environment, but they didn't have a space program either, yet they don't get pissy when someone says they didn't build two story houses or have a written language. They didn't need them.
You can employ sharpshooter fallacies all you want, but the fact of the matter is when food and shelter are not your greatest priority, you won't need to develop much beyond gathering it. Africa simply ran into people who had not only endured, but thrived in a cold inhospitable place for centuries, so they had different ideas, different methods due to very different needs.
Stop being so damn resentful and just be you. You can benefit from all of human advancement, or you can be pissed off that not getting sunburned and having easy access to food means you didn't invent much. Two of the most beautiful girls I dated in my travels around the world were from West Africa, Togo and Ivory Coast, they were wonderful and fun to be around....but that was more than 30 years ago. Now people are resentful rather than wanting to enjoy life.
We was kangs
😂😂😂
Sheeeeet
King ezana, king kaleb of axum. Mansa musa, king lalibela. You racists are so sad and delusional
You need to write a BOOK debunking all this Bull !!
Ooga booga. Unga bunga.
Both good bands but I prefer Oingo Boingo
Wow how funny
It's a validation issue. It's easier to re-write history then working hard to secure their future.
Hopefully your channel wont get deleted at 100k subs 🙏🙏 looking forward to the afro centrist debunked videos
Sheeeeeit
History is really inconvenient for Africa.
I have been through the zimbabwe ruins a number of times and they are quite impressive. My question is, if the local people had the knowledge to build such a structure, all those years ago, why is there nothing else to be seen in the country to indicate that the knowledge had been passed down to others. i.e. if a group of people build a skyscraper they do not do it once, they carry on and build others, bigger and better.
If you had been to Zimbabwe you'd know there are over 300+ ruins in and around modern Zimbabwe.
Whites created ruins when they invade and destroy. Did it all over the earth.
Or white just occupy structures claiming they came up with the idea 1st. Like Starforts all over earth.
There are others around Zimbabwe and South Africa. The claim that you must know mathematics or how to read and write in order to build a complex structure is bogus. People were building with and without arithmetic around the world. Go and research about the other ruins scattered around Zimbabwe and South Africa
Thank you for the TRUTH.....THE "TRUTH".... Thank you Simon..Steady -on..
I would love to hear your thoughts on the these new claims that the Australian aboriginals were actually agriculturally advanced. Storing food in silos, domestic plants, sowing, harvesting, irrigating ect.
There is a book going around called ‘Black Emu’ which asserts a number of primary and secondary sources confirm this. I can’t help but be skeptical in light of the recent over politicisation of non-western history.
Hey Simon, you forgot Wakanda! The most advanced and sophisticated African civilization! 🤣🤣🤣
Furthermore, there are several videos on UA-cam about the mundari tribes in Sudan taking cow's urine showers.🐄🚿 They are the people who allegedly taught us how to take a shower! 🤣🤣🤣
I'm sorry to have to call you out on this line, Simon - "The kind of thing which in Europe were being erected in the Bronze Age" - Skara Brae is Neolithic. 😄
They wuz astronauts, industrialists, nuclear physicists, brain surgeons, architects but unfortunately the invention of the wheel was too difficult for these brilliant scientists.
Let me guess:
1. African roman empire
2 . African viking empire
3. African British empire
Was I close? If not give it 10 years and they will have revised history enough for it to be true
@@luckybag6814 no because then it will be a good thing because they put railway's everywhere
Right!
Have you been watching the BBC again.
Not just Mud they also add Dung
I have been told that sub Saharan civilizations were great exactly because they did not have writing, math and the sciences; No science based medicine. They were great because they didn't have art or big useless buildings. Seriously, I have recently been told this by dark skinned intellectuals here in California.
🤦🏿♂️ why don't you do some research yourself instead of eating up what people tell you?
@@admirekashiri9879 African Greatness; nothing to research.
@@oldmanofcotati clearly there is but if you want to keep your head up your ass go ahead.
@@oldmanofcotati just do everything Simon says if he says pull your shit out your ass and put it in your brain then do it lol.
@@admirekashiri9879 this comment section full of idiots smh
Truth needs to be spoken.
No truth was spoken is the best part
@@user-de4iv9hj6p lol someone hates the truth.
@@davism3800 there was no truth lmao
@@user-de4iv9hj6p You must be black lol
@@user-de4iv9hj6p TRUTH HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY! Feelings be damned.
At least he admits Great Zimbabwe was African made. Most of his kind wouldn't even allow that much, as shown in some of the comments.
What about Wakanda?
Do you mean the supremacist, sexist, ethnostate dictatorship? 🤣
They built some dry stone walls sounds so funny 😂
... not forgetting pointy-sticks ... aka 'spears' ...
Yes, dry stone walls up to 36 feet high (that alone suggests some degree of skill in dressing the stone and building it up) covering a site of around 1,800 acres. The site was occupied from around the 11th to the 15th centuries. It would be interesting to know whether it was first enclosed with wooden walls, or was stone used from the start. Castles in Britain and Europe also had wooden walls and buildings within up to the early 12th century, when stone began to replace first the outer walls and then later the internal buildings. Mocking Great Zimbabwe by comparing it to Salisbury Cathedral is ridiculous, as the two places have very different usages. Why not compare its walls with European city walls from a similar date (a few still survive in part), or compare Salisbury with far older Temple complexes from ancient Egypt.
I don't have a problem with knocking the pretensions of idiots who might claim this Shona site is a civilisation on a par with European countries in the Middle Ages, because that is patent nonsense. It was built because of it's important position on a trade route across Southern Africa. When that route declined or fell into disuse, the site was abandoned. In that way it's similar to ancient Nubia on the Upper Nile, which was on an important staging post on the trade routes between central Africa and Egypt.
Please listen to Thomas Sowell a black professor , he explains this part of history and slavery very truthfully thanks .
Yes, yesterday was his birthday.
THOMAS SOWELL is a living legend, and has spent many years de-bunking MODERN AFRICAN STUDIES, that thrive at many prestigious universities.
Axum was african whether you want to accept it or not lmao
I really don’t blame you, having lived in England myself and seen the destruction and dysfunction that Mass immigration from the 3rd world has brought to your country, but can’t you credit Africans with anything at all?.
This is most likely an opinion that solidified in you when you lived in occupied Palestine . A place where racism and apartheid are common as muck.
Robert Sepher is an anthropologist who adresses these things thru the lenses of genetics as well as historical and mythical records.
he also blows out of the water the out of africa myth - go watch his latest video he does it in 15 minutes
I don’t know if you have been to Zimbabwe, but I have visited Great Zimbabwe and was puzzled by its construction as I couldn’t understand the function of very high wall in what looked like cattle pens. Then it occurred to me the livestock being kept could probably climb. As it codeveloped at the same time as Muslim were trading down the the east coast of Africa a unique trade item that needed special caging.
Oh wow interesting. What did the tour guides tell you about the height of the walls?
Are you suggesting that the walls were built by Arab traders?
@@useyourbrain.5574 No explanation was offered.
@@fredneecher1746 That was my first thought, but I have found no evidence to support that idea, or dismiss it.
Arabs and muslim religion started around 700AD. There are ruins in Zimbabwe that go back to 400AD - 200BC please explain how it could have possibly been a semetic culture.
You've spoken enough truth to make people of certain political persuasions very uncomfortable.
I saw a reddit post with the usual soy-infused NPC's circlejerking about how terrible and inaccurate one of your videos on Africa was. I'll admit, I was actually concerned, but upon reading the comments I noticed a complete lack of actual substance in the accusations. The only substantive ones suggested that you did not accurately represent the art and architecture of the time.
Lo and behold, upon looking at these things for myself, you did a far better job of representing these cultures than the idiots on reddit did.
For some reason, leftists interpret certain statements of fact regarding foreign cultures as judgement calls regarding their peoples' value. I can definitively say here, that the quality of African architecture or science or art has no bearing on the fundamental dignity I ascribe Africans as human beings.
Leftists apparently don't feel this way.
God Bless Simon Webb
Strange how they invented this that and the rest, but when we got there they still hadn’t invented the wheel, and when the women have to walk miles for water looks like they still haven’t. Surely just a wheel barrow to carry
The water Hmm
We wuz kangs and sheeit
We wuz Kangz Romanz pharoahs Emperors Write Inventors mathemiticians and sheeit yo!
oh, my apologies. That should be, Pharoahz Emperorz Inventorz Folx Mathematicianzzz
...and Griks too...apparently.
PHILOSOPHY?
THEY WERE TOO BUSY RIOTING
it’s apparent you don’t watch UA-cam. You constantly reference to the thumbnail, and I have to and I assume as do others, exit your video, look at the thumbnail and then decide to click back on your video. The way UA-cam animates thumbnails, our eye can only follow the highlighted box. that is, you can only view one thumbnail at a time, the one that the selection box is highlighting. And when you move the box onto a thumbnail it immediately animates it into a bunch of gibberish cartoonish type movements. I hate the UA-cam thumbnails.
i always try o tell this politely to those afrocentrists, but they don't want to learn then they put forward stuff like" muh historians say" and then they are buzffled by the counter of" as a historian i don't agree with the one side" i always try to not belittle what achievement there was, but there were so few
I had a black (American) co worker who used to brag that blacks built the pyramids and invented algebra. I used to just shake my head. If I would have called him out on it he would have reported me as a racist or wanted to fight in the parking lot. I'm surprised that YT hasn't given you a hard time for it. You're the only one with the balls to call them out.
There were some Nubian pyramids
I mean they werent white either though
Egyptians built the pyramids!!
Ask whites & blacks to SHUT UP for once!
Another great video - a good historical perspective.
Axum was an african civilization. I wonder why people with eurocentric views try to discredit african views.
I found this video to be accurate until what you said didn't make sense 🤦🏾♂️
This is what Simon does he has an agenda against Africa and black people.
@@admirekashiri9879 because you guys didn’t ever build anything
@@admirekashiri9879 you were taughttt how to read and writee in the 1800s
@@Mark_-ye6qn Didn't build anything according to what exactly?? Even Simon here can't deny we build GZ and other structures lole this.
As for writing yes most Africans didn't write but news flash others did way before the 1800s try again.
It was a Semitic civilization located in Africa. To this day, Ethiopians, Eritreans and Somalis look very different that there rest of (Bantu) Sub-Saharan Africa. You can see it in the structure of their faces if not their complexions.
Hopefully these videos are all mirrored elsewhere
I've said for years that those born into peasant culture in hot countries don't have to do much to develop and live. They can sleep where they like and get by. Those from cold countries such as northern Europe have had to educate and develop because if we didn't we'd die. Cold weather makes one inventive.
Much of European achievements started from the Mediterranean cultures, and there is much less environmental pressure there than further north, but there was some and the bigger nations there were geologically well situated to benefit and adopt knowledge from a wide area.
That theory wouldn't explain why the Ancient Egyptians were thousands of years ahead in terms of development compared to their Sub Saharan neighbours further up the Nile.
I subscribe to elements of that approach ...
Interesting thought.
Cold weather will make them smarter, but civilisation is linked with agriculture. Where agriculture starts, civilisations are soon to follow. For obvious reasons. But not all the civilisations are the same. You look at India and its magnificent temples and think 'wow, what an advanced civilisation'. Only that most of the people there survived humiliated and exploited in primitive huts. At the same time in Greece, Italy, Germanic world and basically everywhere in Europe to an extent, there were civilisations built by free equal citizens, not by abusive elites treating the rest as cattle. This was unique to Europe. The polis, the burg and so on. A large part of the population was urbanised, very skilled in various trades, with spare income and spare free time to study and read. They were also fighting not forced, but willing, as to preserve their individual freedom. Compared to the rest of the world where people were fighting forced by their rulers or with the incentive of plunder.
The patience of a saint personified 😁.
Systemic storytelling of single storey structuralists.
There were multi storey structures mate Simon doesn't know what he is talking about and is easily debunked.
@@admirekashiri9879 You *_’debunk’_* people with evidence champ, where’s yours?
@power indeed not just that don't forget the Kushite architecture, the Akan and Ashanti architecture the Sudano Sahelian architecture the Bamileke architecture and dozens others that had multi-storey buildings. Old Simon here doesn't do his research.
Arabs of southern Arabia didn’t go into Ethiopia to create Aksum. As the name Aksum itself is mixed. “Ak” meaning water in agew. & “sum” meaning chief or master in Ethiopic / Ge’ez. Also the Ge’ez script predates Arabic. However it has close resemblance to greek. Secondly when talking about the languages of Amharic & it’s sounds. It’s mostly closely related to Akkadian & Aramaic both dead biblical languages spoken during the times of the Bible. Also according to religious texts (not the Bible) it says that the children of Moses & Abraham where Ethiopians. Which thus explains our Semitic origins. Also southern Arabia was inhabited by Jews. Not Arabs as Arabs are a mixed people mixed with Mesopotamian Persian green & even african. In terms of Aksum not being African. The oldest churches are found not in Tigray or Eritrea. They are found in the Amhara region. Churches dating back to the 6th & 5th century. As other churches of such age aren’t found (also along with remnants of Jewish synagogues & graves) which corroborate the biblical & judeo origin of the “Ethiopians”. As their semtic origins aren’t from southern Arabia but the levant & canaan.
He doesn't care they spoke Semitic this they weren't African thsts his stupid logic 😂😂. And they were from Yemen but biblically speaking Seba is a child of Cush ancestor of black people but I don't think Simon is religious so he doesn't believe that. But either way why did the ancient Hebrews make such a connection if the people weren't related in some way or shape?
Arabs of Himyer tribe went and invaded the horn not just ethiopia, just like they went north to Mecca and Medina and JOrdan , and ruled and still the most dominant tribes although with different name but till early islamic age they were stll call themselves Arabs , the language is actually Arabic (not tha Quaranic Arabic) as there is more than 4 Arabic languages share the same grammar and origin so your claim that GE'EZ is older is nonsense as the oldest and earliest Himyeri writing is found in Saba'a and still more than 80000 yeminis speaking the old language
If it wasn’t for the Renaissance followed by the enlightenment then it wouldn’t be irrational to say that the world would still be as it had always been. Europe would probably still be mediaeval, the Islamic world imperialistic, China isolationist and Africa and the Americas lost in time.
There would be no scientific enquiry, no industrial revolution, no medical progress, no globalisation. War, famine and plague would still be prevalent and slavery would still be the norm and there would be no relief for your toothaches, migraines or poor eyesight. So next time anyone who wants to condemn European colonialism just have a moment’s thought first
Simon still confusing cultural & linguistic influences with colonisation. If Ethiopia was just a Semitic colony at the time of Axum (which it wasn't, according to archaeology) how to explain later medieval Ethiopian civilisation? Was Napoleonic France simply a Roman colony (French being derived from Latin and the script coming from Latin) and were the indigenous French therefore incapable of creating civilisation? At least, Ethiopians invented their own script unlike the French (or the English for that matter)! It's all terribly simplistic and misleading. Another video designed to cater to the prejudices of Simon's ignorant and bigoted audience.
The old man is stuck in his old ignorant ways let him believe what he wants. His statements are long debunked anyway.
@@admirekashiri9879 Good advice. I have kept away from this channel for the last 6 months for the sake of my sanity and because I have better things to do. Came back to check for reaction to the George Floyd verdict but found nothing had changed.
@@glbale Same here I saw the image (I'm Zimbabwean) then had to see what he was saying. And he is still here undermining black people and its worse now he lying like wtf claiming the Mali empire was created by Arabs and Tuaregs when no Arab ot Tuareg clai such BS. Then the stuff he said about Aksum again long debunked the empire was not a colony of the Sabaeans the relationship between Seba and East Africa was not one sided. He has finally shown his true colours. In his earlier videos he seemed unbiased but, it was all a game.
@@admirekashiri9879 I might have come in a bit later than you as his schtick was already apparent. I think it was a video where Simon was claiming that the Grand Mosque of Djenne was a French colonial building and he compared it to the previous mosque on the site, using a French postcard that clearly stated that it was of the ruins of the previous mosque (showing a ruined adobe wall) but Simon gave the impression that the ruins WERE the previous mosque (which I understand was very large by the way). Then there was a video where Simon attacked a book because it had black pharoahs in the title even though it was about the 25th Nubian dynasty which is about as uncontroversial example of black pharaohs as one can get. I have a book from the early 60's referring to that dynasty as black. I challenged him on that and he claimed with no evidence at all that the 25th dynasty may have been the descendants of Egyptian governors of the New Kingdom (i.e. hundreds of years before, and if they had any descendants in Nubia by then they would have been totally Nubian anyway). Sadly it's what his followers want to hear to give their racism validation. Simon is like a one man National Front information office.
@@glbale Ye early on he started talking about bronze age settlements in Europe like GZ not being cities I said ok that's find atlesst he isn't claiming GZ as European or Arab and he is making a bit of sense. Then he continued on to the other stuff you mentioned which made me realize this man has an agenda.
This is what a Cultural Revolution looks like.
People used to go to Rhodesia to view the Zimbabwe ruins now you go to Zimbabwe to view the Rhodesian ruins.
🤣🤣🤣
People marvel at how people in Zimbabwe or the Incas built high walls without mortar, and how this shows great ingenuity. Do you know what would be more impressive? If they'd actually been able to invent mortar!
They didn't need to so why would they?
@@admirekashiri9879 Why invent the wheel when you can drag stuff? Why invent writing when you can just memorise everything?
@@andrewdevine3920 your point?
@@admirekashiri6651Bro... 😅
Yuri Bezmenov was right. Here it all is.
Still come here daily for realty, in a world going NUTS
"I have a particular interest in, and extensive knowledge of; terrorism in Victorian and Edwardian Britain,"
Now that would be very interesting. Perhaps not as much in focus today, but still very interesting.
could you do a video on pre-colonial Africa and its lack of bridges--- why this is ----and its effect.
Why are you people obsessed with belittling and entire continent?
Actually the pygmies built very sophisticated suspension bridges out of grass.
Just watch the Tarzan , classic movies. he swong across rivers with vines . That's your proof in the 1930 of African bridges.
I believe your judgement of Aksum is purposefully lazy. You describe it as if it was just an Arab kingdom that just extended into East Africa which isn’t really true. When really, the Kingdom of Dm’t is more accurate to your statement. The Kingdom of D’mt was probably established by Yemeni colonists. Aksum was a city state in Ethiopia that rose to become the Aksumite Empire half a thousand years after D’mt collapsed. And they developed a written script without any outside influence. They only reached into Yemen in the 500s, when they colonized it themselves. Yes, they were Africans, i’ll admit with Semitic culture, that colonized outwards of the continent.
No, no significant influence has ever been found in the foundations of either of these civilisations
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In all fairness, what did the early Britons leave behind, until the Romans came, conquered them, and taught them how to build with stone? Or the Picts, Irish, etc? Even the Gauls in what is now France, what stone work did they leave behind that exists today?
He doesn't care because they were white its only matters when it's black people that's when he undermines what there.
@@admirekashiri9879 Perhaps. But it's a complicated issue to be sure. I've seen similar posts and I don't think the OP's really thought it through. Another good example I can think of are the native Americans. Apparently they all came from the same source, Siberia, yet those in the far south, the Mexica, Aztecs, Maya, Inca, built amazing stone cities and temples. While those in the north, the area of the USA didn't leave much behind at all. The Pueblo in the area of the southern USA built a bit with stone and brick, but mostly mud and the arid area preserved some of it. And there are a few odd stone structures here and there whose origin is still unknown, but most of the tribes built with sticks and hides. What drives humans to build with various materials is an interesting and complicated issue.
Hmmmm! Stonehenge, there are many other examples, but the point is, having learned from the Romans, civilisation in UK advanced, what happened in SubSaharan Africa?? Because when Europeans began to colonise Africa, there was no evidence of any former ‘ great civilisations ‘ and why would the populace across the whole continent regress so much?
@@howardjones7370 Clearly you didn't research this.
@@admirekashiri6651 : Clearly you haven’t either, there is little to no evidence of any advanced early civilisation anywhere in Sub Saharan Africa, that wasn’t influenced by Mediterranean or Europe cultures, no written language, no written history, nothing
Note how he sidestepped Wakanda. I wonder why.
Here we go again, you're back attacking and undermining African cultures seriously don't you get tired of this nonsense Simon?
Firstly you're comparing Great Zimbabwe to Europe a region of the world which was heavily influenced by North Africa and the Middle East in various areas such as architecture, writing, mathematics, philosophy and various areas, while my ancestors weren't a part of this constant movement of ideas and knowledge so what do you expect? Like why even compare? Is this a damn competition? Plus you don't know anything about the culture of my ancestors clearly Simon so best not to talk about what they did or didn't have.
And Aksum has been proven to be an African culture already the civilization or culture of D'mt wasn't Sabaean, plus what was believed to be Sabaean colonization or occupation didn't even last a century, the truth is the East Africans adopted elements of Sabaean culture however, they did not throw away their original culture. You're wrong yet again.
And the Malinke were building structures over one storey long before the colonial Europeans even thought of colonising Africa. Do better research Sudano Sahelian architecture was mud architecture yes! In the climate mud and mudbrick structures were more suitable. Like literally mud and mudbrick were used all over the world including parts of the Middle East. This is why you don't see explorerd who visited Mali mock the Sudano Sahelian architecture. Hek even most ancient Egyptian cities were built out of mud and mudbrick.
And boy you Eurocentrics are pathetic the Mali Empire was founded by the Mande people before them there was the Soninke empire of Wagadu which Arabs themselves made not of discovering after invading North Africa. No Arab source claims Amazigh or Arabs established the cultures and civilizations of the Western Sudanic. Seriously you're giving false information are you not ashamed?
Yes they adopted the Arabic script however, what you fail to realizs is the script was changed a bit I'm order to write ingenious African languages. You think in they were ruled by Arabs and Amazigh ingenious languages, customs and laws would have been prevent in the region? Come on Simon you're showing your biased ignorance now, I had respect for you at first but you've proven you're just an ignorant Eurocentric.
We invented africa
@@Mark_-ye6qn Ye you invented gravity too huh?
There's a young Englishman who travels the world on a small Honda motorcycle.
He remarked one time that the bedroom he slept in as a teenager was older than Machu Picchu.
The Western fascination with Machu Picchu seems a bit silly in that light.
Was that Ed March on his honda c90 ? his videos are quite interesting and he's always respectful about the people he has met on his travels.
To be fair, Machu Picchu looks pretty bloody amazing. I'd certainly love to visit. Great Zimbabwe on the other hand? Meh. My garden wall is better.
Why is it that everyone who comments on this channel tries so desperately to sound educated? Not only that, but you all seem to imitate and use Simon's colloquialisms. I enjoy this channel very much as well - but at least I'm honest enough to say - I don't know Jack. Or as all of you imitators would say - "indeed".
Axum empire, a wonderful European civilization huh? Lmaoo man you all are so delusional. Just cant accept the fact that black africans had kingdoms and civilizations
Kingdoms and civilizations that came thousands of years later and were insignificant and had no major impact on humanity
I disagree about Zimbabwe. They clearly had the plow, no black people ever invented that. It came from Egypt so not only did the idea spread that way over thousands of years but the concepts of building stone structures.
Oh my gosh iron smelting did not come with every bantu tribe some where cattle hearders and farmers but did not have iron smelting whilst some where cattle herders and farmers and had iron smelting some learnt the trade from incoming migrating tribes. The people's to arrive first on the limpompo around 400BC had no iron smelting why do you think the culture of drystone walls arose there where originally defensive not in the way you think. Imagine you have no iron smelting and you have to defend yourself against incoming tribes from your territory in a place like the limpompo thats why they made drystone walling. The walls where made before the people learnt hoe to iron smelt. Instead they had a very primitive type of metallurgy . For farming you donot realy need metallurgy when you are starting the last and final phase of bantu migration started from 600BC to 1000AD.
@shanewalkingdead8258 Some Berber taught them that then pre colonialism. If you feel these achievements were made independently of Arabs, Berbers and a thousand years later with the Europeans, then why does Africa still suck?
You don't just forget these things. And sorry stacking stones on top of each other is the most basic of endeavors. Atleast the Berbers taught them something but this isn't what you should write home about.
The rest of the world my culture included are perfectly happy with our achievements. What is sad about your whole community is when you leave Malariai-ica you see actual civilizations and are p**&& envious.
That is why you constantly attempt to steal and take other cultures' for your own.
Funny how Simon when same exact thing happens in Europe you don’t apply the same logic as you apply to Africa. The Romans and Greeks viewed the Europeans as barbaric and without culture, seen them themselves as different, yet they are still classified as “white”. The same happens in Africa yet they are somehow different. You have no proof at all that they were not black and no basis for your claim that people that are not in subsaharan Africa as not black. There is no scientific basis for your claim at all.
@Casca yeah the Ancient Egyptians were black.
@@MrMegagoldenarms Your comment contains a lot of logical fallacies!
@Casca from the University of Cambridge I enjoy posting this on this site:
Were the Ancient Egyptians Africans? What colour was their skin?
Yes. Egypt is in Africa and there are many cultural links to other African civilisations.
If we look at the skin colour and also facial features on representations of Egyptians, many are what we would consider today to be Black African. Skin colours on temple and wall reliefs show ranges between dark brown and black, which is typical of what we see today with regard to people of Black African descent or origin. Furthermore, Nubians, a group who are accepted universally as Black Africans are, like their neighbours from Kemet, shown on reliefs with both jet black and red-brown skin and can be distinguished as Nubians by their short wigs.
Many statues have lost their original skin colour. Sometimes colours were used by the Egyptians symbolically, so for example a statue of a god or royal person would painted gold to represent immortality.
If we leave colour aside for a moment, we can also find out a great deal from looking at the facial features shown on Egyptian statues. Here, there can be no doubt that we are dealing with people who were African. Faces were broad with high cheekbones and the jaws are typically strong. The noses are also broad and the lips are generally full and fleshy in appearance.
www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/dept/ant/egypt/kemet/virtualkemet/faq/
@@MrMegagoldenarms carry on embarrassing yourselves
Great Zimbabwe is not the peak of "Subsaharan" African civilisation that would be Ancient Nubia in Sudan and the West African Empires (Ancient Ghana, Mali, Songhai, Kanem Bornu for example)
There you go again Simon, letting facts get in the way of "The Truth".
... I think you mean 'their Truth' these days ...
What facts? Some of the stuff he said here can be debunked easily.
@@admirekashiri9879 Okay, I'm listening. Start debunking.
@@stevenkeating225 Aksum has been proven to be an African culture and civilization already. The civilization or culture of D'mt which came before wasn't Sabaean, plus what was believed to be Sabaean colonization or occupation didn't even last a century, the truth is the East Africans adopted elements of Sabaean culture however, they did not throw away their original culture.
And the Malinke (people of Mali) were building structures over one storey long before the colonial Europeans even thought of colonising Africa. Research Sudano Sahelian architecture, yes this was mudbrick architecture! In the climate mud and mudbrick structures were more suitable for keeping cool than stone. Like literally mud and mudbrick were used all over the world including parts of the Middle East. This is why you don't see explorerd who visited Mali mock the Sudano Sahelian architecture. Hek even most ancient Egyptian cities were built out of mud and mudbrick.
And what he said about the Mali Empire is total BS! The empire was founded by the Mande people before them there was the Soninke empire of Wagadu which Arabs themselves made note of discovering after invading North Africa. No Arab source claims Amazigh or Arabs established the cultures and civilizations of the Western Sudanic. Simon here is giving you people Eurocentric false information.
Yes the people of Mali adopted the Arabic script however, what you people fail to realize id the script was changed a bit in order to write in indegenious African languages. You think if they were ruled by Arabs or tge Amazigh indegenious languages, customs and laws would have been prevent in the region? Simon was here showing his biased ignorance now, I had respect for him at first, bur he has proven he is just another ignorant Eurocentric.
@@stevenkeating225 at the end he went on to say there was no writing, actually that's nonsense there was writing however proto forms of scripts like Nisibidi, and the Songhai symbols. Kushites created the Meroitic script yes it derived from Egyptian Hyroglphics, however so did the European scripts such as the Hellenistic Greek script which the later Latin script derives from. So, if the fact the script derives from another culture takes anything away from the Kushites it should takes away from Europeans too technically since the Hellenstic script and Latin script both derive from Phoenician and that in turn derives from ancient Egyptian Hyroglphics. There are only a few places on Earth where you see scripts without outside influence those are usually cradles of civilization! Egypt, China, Mesopatamia, Mesoamerica and Indus Valley for example
Simon claims there were no buildings with upper stories. 🤦🏿♂️ he clearly doesn't know much about African styles of architecture. This stupid old misconception has been debunked! Sudano Sahelian architecture, Bamileke architecture Akan and Ashanti architecture, Nubian and other Sudanese architecture, as various indegenious styles of architecture had more than one storey. Look up for example, the Kushite palace of Karanog and count how many storeys are there. Look up Oursi Hu-beero an 11th century two storey mansion found Burkina Faso. Look up traditional Nubian architecture and again count how many stories an average house had. In fact look at all these European illustrations of indegenious architecture. Now, if these were built by Arabs or by Europeans by all means I want you and or Simon prove it and debunk this history, and don't just talk cite your sources and let's see.
Then when it comes to the statements about the wheel. Well ofcourse the wheel wasn't used if you knew the history of the wheel you'd know it didn't spring up out of nowhere all over Eurasia and North Africa. I presume he did since your so educated, but I guess not. The wheel is an invention which came about from early Eurasians who first domesticated the horse. The earliest evidence of the wheel is found in Mesopatamia if I remember correctly however, some scholars believe it was used first before them further North closer to.the Eurasian Steppe. The wheel spread along with the spread of the horse and its domestication. At some point the horse and chariot entered Northern Africa and other parts of Eurasia and thus the idea of the wheel was incorporated. Originslly the ancient Egyptian civilization didn't have the wheel they got it from the Hyksos. Those who were isolated from this obviously didn't come up with the concept due to isolation and other factors such as the beasts of burden used to utilize the wheel e.g horses weren't present. thus the reason why the South American civilizations like the Inca, Mayans, Aztecs, Olmec etc didn't utilize the wheel, plus with the tsetse fly which kills animals like horses it would have been impractical. In more suitable regions it was used and spread such as Kush! Yes Nubians had the wheel as did the Garamantes of North Africa.
Then he said no roads. There were roads used for trade in West Africa actually however, they were not paved and they were in the forest regions. The roads had to maintain them constantly to keep them clear. I believe it was the Benin kingdom or the Ashanti which had these roads.
Claiming Mali is Berbers or Arab is utter nonsense! The ruling class in Mali and the Mali empire were Mande speaking people, Mansa Musa was Mande.
& yes the Sudano-Sahelian architecture features Adobe clay bricks, much like most of the architecture of Ancient Egypt (they reserved stone for temples & pyramids) Palaces included.
Attributing any of the West African Empires to "Arabs"/Berbers is dog whistle racism, & who or what a Berber is up for debate whbe you consider the Tuareg for example.
I would suggest, at the beginning of videos like this, clarifying exactly what is meant by African - clearly in this case you mean Sub-Saharan African. I can otherwise see far too many people arguing on a semantic point.
I'd suggest ge also cite his sources because most of the crap he came up with here is nonsense.
@@admirekashiri9879 I think you will find it’s all facts or they wouldn’t let it be shown on you tube . Cos they don’t want to offend all you morons who want credit where it’s not due
Really, muh knyghu? 😜
We wuz kangs! 🙉👑
Nonsense, they are far more advanced technologically, look at Lagos for instance. Inhabitants all zooming around on their anti-gravity hoverboards. They also had a large hadron collider in 956,it was built from twigs, mud and poo.
Then, of course the ZAMBIAN SPACE PROGRAM, (look it up for A GOOD LAUGH)
There is African art, though. The Benin bronzes, which I find quite impressive.
He always ignores that.
Benin bronzes are original, but if you see the ancient European art, like only the things exposed to public in Vatican museum, you will have your mind blown away. Benin bronzes look like child's play compared to those.
Not to mention those ancient European artworks are like 1500 years earlier than Benin bronzes and almost no Greco-Roman bronzes survived, being melted. Probably the bronze horses in Venice, looted from Constantinople are the only examples of ancient European bronze masterpieces surviving.
@@mdaniel5384 what ancient art? Greco Roman art? Or Germanic, Slavic, Finno Ugric, and Celtic art? Please share this superior art from these other Europeans who weren't Greco Roman.
@@admirekashiri9879 @Admire Kashiri I see what you mean. Actually Celts left great and original artworks. Just search for Celtic treasures or Celtic art. Old Germanic People also left great and specific treasures like Sutton Hoo, Childeric tomb, or Apahida Treasures. I bet Finland have some art in their museums, while for Hungary, you will be surprised, they really have a lot to show of. Slavs also created several states that all have more or less stuff to impress. Especially Russians, Poles and Czechs.
@@mdaniel5384 Yes but you're saying it's superior to the bronzes and the heads of Ife too right? Superior in what way exactly?
In 1985 a truck drove thru the Congo. Shortly afterward Africans invented the wheel.
History, schmistory, who cares what happened millennia ago; it's today's so-called civilisation that matters. The current African civilisation, how appealing is it to you? Are you desperately seeking to migrate to any African country?? If not, why not?? Same goes for the Middle East.....
A tree is known by its fruit
@R T the video is in the context of the myths of afro-centrists. They falsify history because they have no glory in the present, so it's fair to focus only on the present and not address their lies at all.
@R T So what has it taught you?? not a lot obviously. "people have made it their life work to figure history out", that's their choice, again, so what??
I understand your point, but it is important to oppose people who tell lies about history.
If having a writen language is the mark of civilization then pre-Roman britain didn't have civilization.
To be honest, Great Zimbabwe was most likely built by Arabs who went down to.. ahem.. employ some of the locals.
Prove it.
😂 that has been debunked try again.
@@admirekashiri9879 when it was discovered by Europeans, and they asked the Shona who lived around it who built it, they did not know, and could not comprehend themselves how such a structure had been built.
@@cheekibreeki4492 Nonsense! I'm Shona we didn't not claim such things. It's known Mwene Mutapa Chingwanu Rusvingo is the one who ordered this to be built plus mind you there are dozens of other ruins scattered across the region one my own direct ancestor took from his rival. Based on archeaology and excavations its Bern proven the Shona/Karanga and our cousins built and ruled this region.
@@admirekashiri9879 there is no archeological evidence that Great Zimbabwe was constructed by the Shona.
While your ancestors may have inhabited the area, that is not proof that they constructed these buildings.
I understand the temptation to claim that they did.
Basically they are thick beyond belief.
The End
You're talking about yourself.
Not much has change
Is this what we are doing we ignore all the African art that was stolen and act like African;s were not the ones to settle the Arab and Hindu Nations? Really is this what we are doing. While Europeans were running around naked there were no highly educated people with no written language and performing surgeries and charting the stars. Europeans have always had a very smug view of themselves.
Another good one. Off the subject a think the advertising industry might be wasting there time just a thought
Have a look at the Australian indigenous people and what they claim they achieved in 70,000 and what they have truly achieved.
Not even a stone wall.
Great comment.
At Cape Ottway in Victoria there’s a replica of an aboriginal house which looks a bit like an igloo. The breeze off the Southern Ocean probably made it a bit impractical to live under a kangaroo skin or suchlike.
@@leedsman54 A replica is there any evidence of the original?
we know from Livingstone sub sahara including Zimbabwe are very poor definition of sophistication.
😂😂 Livingstone didn't know much about the continent I'm afraid.
are you saying wakanda isnt real ... OMG
Thank you for the History Lesson. The truth is no longer hidden, now people hide from the truth.
Indeed!
This wasn't a history lesson it was an old man spouting his ignorance.
@@admirekashiri9879 Chuckle chuckle.
@@pointblankracer6274 ??
"You are racist!"
"But this are facts!"
"So your facts are racist!"
Quite right. As for Great Zimbabwe it's actual origins go back to Mapungubwe on the other side of the Limpopo in South Africa. Unwelcome facts for some with an axe to grind. The only technology they seem to have developed on their own was the ability to smelt copper and iron and all those crafts were kept secret from your average peasant.
I remember reading that when Portuguese and Spanish first came across sub saharan Africans there were 4 issues that stood out.
1. no written language
2. No two story dwellings
3. No calendar
4. No domesticated animals..
And yet lve been told that Mozart was black, septimus Severus was black, black musicians in Henry v111s Court etc etc and the reason nobody knows this is because of white Europeans rewriting history... Hahaha
And no Cash Converters!
Which part of Africa exactly?? Because that isn't isn't case for many regions of Africa.
In 1691, the Portuguese ship captain Lourenco Pinto observed: “Great Benin, where the king resides, is larger than Lisbon; all the streets run straight and as far as the eye can see. The houses are large, especially that of the king, which is richly decorated and has fine columns. The city is wealthy and industrious. It is so well governed that theft is unknown and the people live in such security that they have no doors to their houses.”
They are so desperate to feel equal
If this is allowed to continue it won't matter what actually happened. History is being highjacked and our great-grandchildren will believe that everything beautiful and good was built by SSA and only wars and racism is a European trait.
So much truth hidden, so much wisdom eschewed to establish faux narratives...It is nice to see a gentleman such as yourself push back against hatred and ignorance. Subscribed and up voted
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