$70 GORUCK ALTERNATIVE!! Chuyen Tactical CT21 CT15 & CT5
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
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Thanks for watching, In this video I share with you the Chuyen Tactical line of packs. These pack have a lot of features for a great price.
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I don’t understand why you only have 30k subs! You are by far the best carryologist on the www!
I like it very much his edc bags reviews..My Suggestions more promotion in other edc bags UA-cam reviewers or post in facebook(if he have account) or Instagram(if he have account)..
It's crazy he isn't huge. I think military personal packs, urban day to day to rural people that have multiple in their vehicles they should be looking here. Seems everyone else is a sold commercial for their review
Is that bag reviews? This a good bag review fer sure
Yes! Agree! George is my go-to for packs.
Gutsiest move I've ever seen...haha. Solid look, as always. I've been considering this one for a while but just haven't had the opportunity. Good stuff George!
I'm bringing popcorn for the comments after you review a CT bag!
Hi George, great review! I picked up a couple of CT15s at the Chuyen Tactical store on a trip to Ho Chi Minh City last summer and have been alternating them with my GR1 for EDC since then. I can confirm that all of your impressions bear out over time. The straps are definitely squishier and narrower than on a GR1 (although I don't have a Bullet for direct comparison), but it makes sense for the average Vietnamese user, who tend to be a bit narrower across the shoulders. I would say the finishing/stitching is not quite as nice as on a GoRuck, but no durability/build issues so far. Anyway, I'm a long-time viewer who really appreciates how you're able to cover stuff relevant both to normies and bag nerds🙂
Great channel, great reviews. I like the everyday commentary. You speak to what a normal consumer would want to know. Nicely done, sir.
thanks George for review our local brand, i'm Vietnamese, and i using all the CT type of Chuyentactical, and i'm so proud of them cheers
I'm from Singapore and even I'm looking at CT 21. I can't afford the Goruck lol. I have a Cabinzero Military but it's not, 36L though
Don´t understand how i just found your channel. Awesome stuff, really helpfully keep doing what your doing.
Those look like good bags! What puts me off is the shoulder straps. If I wanted a GoRuck pack, it would be for rucking heavy stuff over some distances, so the straps are the deal breaker. I’ll stick with the Rush 12 for that purpose for now. Most comfortable straps on any pack I own except the Mystery Ranch 2DAP.
For EDC I go with the TAD FAST Pack Scout since I don’t need to carry a whole lot at the office. The straps on that fit the “narrow but well padded” category, but they don’t contour to the shoulders and I don’t find them very comfortable under load. Yep, like George I spend too much on bags. He can take some of the blame - I just ordered The North Face Base Camp. Been looking at it for ages but his video made me do it. Thanks George lol :)
THANK YOU! After spending hours looking up GR1s, I've decided the bag isn't for me, and I've been hoping for an alternative for awhile, something more versatile I can take outdoors, and not rough up my usual EDC. I'm so glad I found this video and this pack! It adds good features to the GR1 formula. My only concern is the back panel in the summer...haha.
This is exactly what we needed! Thank you! Competition is ALWAYS welcomed by consumers.
haha! Love your review, it is not about where it came from but about the quality. I'm so sick of some made-in-US product that is so bad utilizing the fact people assume all things made in US are good quality to jack up the price. Let's be real if people can make it right and charge a low price, why does it matter where it came from?
Thanks for this review!!! It can help those guy that use their pack to do rucks with weights etc. Much rather beat up a quality 70 buck pack than the alternative. My carry packs also get used hard and it's nice to see a good alternative to my truck packs.
As always, George: OUTSTANDING video!
The CT5's bottle holder is actually able to fit a 32oz Nalgene (if you loosen the straps all the way).
I’d probably remind folks that if you’re spending the Chuyen price on the look alike pack… you’re not spending on a full blown ruck that can withstand weight plates, sand bags… being used as workout equipment and daisy chained ladder. You’d be spending on a day pack for items used daily. I dig the CT15 Slick for this reason. Great review and tons of info. Subscribed.
so, not good for carrying weight plates?
Thank you. Looking for a bag that will allow me to carry weight plates but not ready to get a GR bag just yet.
Looks like a great Goruck or TAD alternative at a nice price point. I appreciate market options for everyone and this seems to hit the mark. Appreciate the awesome review as always George Defined! Cheers from Colorado ❄
I bought the 21 liter. The killer was the $52.00 shipping cost. But I ordered the 2 interior panels and the little organizer.
Great review, as usual George! I can’t bring myself to purchase bags with narrow shoulder straps, my shoulders don’t like it.
Fair enough!
The Goruck killer! CT21 with the admin panel and the admin insert was $160 total with shipping to FL. Ordered!
how did you order it? I can't figure out how to order it and ship it to the US
@@toasterturkey following. i am definitely interesed in knowing how to order that pack
George, I always enjoying your video and at this time Im so grad to hear your open minded opinion to production in Asia.
That was said, I love U.S. design so using Evade 1.5 and GR0 for my edc. If I will replace one of these now, I would get Whitly instead of GR0. But if CT21 had external bottle folders and rid off the big vercro, that would make the dream bag for me!
Im atracted to the CT21 because it looks good and
# Laptop compartment
# 500D cordura I prefer then other materials
# Nylon waving attachent points in main compartment and front.
# Admin section in the front pocket
# #8 zipper. It could be smoother then #10 arround the corner.
Cheers!
Dang I'm sold. Thanks for the comprehensive review!
Another great and honest review, George. As long as the maker is transparent about what they're doing and the consumer is able to make an informed decision, the origin of the pack isn't the most important aspect. In the end, Goruck is producing some of their bags overseas, as well, so that's not a tremendously meaningful basis for comparison. Thanks, for providing so much detail about the Chuyen bags.
The only reason to get the goruck is if you like their marketing enough to pay the price difference.
Whatever you do, don’t post it up in Carryology. They’ll get their panties in a bunch and remove it. I LOVE GoRuck stuff, but competition makes everyone better. Great review!
Just noticed they have v2.0 with high vis interiors and 1000D. AND… multicam black
Waited so long for this video. Looks like it was worth the wait me Grey Beard.
Go ruck and 5.11 are produced in Vietnam just like Chuyen . Probably the same factory. 🤣 Shows what marketing me brand image can do.
Thank you for your review on this budget friendly option. I know folks don't like competition but competitive options is only good for the consumer. As far as ct5, I am pretty positive that the last pocket is for a firearm. Which is why it fillets out like that. The problem would be to open that pocket to deploy your firearm looks cumbersome. But for $30 not a bad option. Great video as always.
We GORUCK fans aren't consumers; we are part of the team.
Good review and tips. I just subscribed and I will definitely be back for more videos!
I don’t have a problem with CT bags my gf has one actually, but the bag is literally a carbon copy of a gr1. It’s one thing to be inspired, it’s another thing to have the exact same pockets in the same spots and bag layout 😂 It’s a GR1 but with a few little changes.
I will say tho that Goruck should 100% add internal stretch water bottle pockets
George, are you still using the CT21? Has your opinion changed at all?
So good! Love the channel!
I love your reviews, you always give a no B.S. review on every product. It like asking Jesus for advice. Meaning you can bank on your reviews, to be gospel of the Truth. Please keep up your amazing views.
i got CT21 version 2 black/burn for USD$71 inclusive of shipping. Too excited for word
I think the real challenger to this backpack isn't goruck but 5.11.
Thank you for the very informative review of each item, and the comparisons.
I was interested in the CT5, a slight w/ a external bottle holder, but it seems it won't be able to carry my hydro flask 40oz. Would you have a recommendation for my need? Thanks!
Seems like decent packs to me. You know, G, the same people that complain about companies ripping off other companies designs, are the same people who use products in their daily lives that have design cues "borrowed'' from other manufacturers. The fact they're made in Vietnam, as most major brands of outdoor packs are, seems like a minor thing to me. Hey Bro-ham, I hope you and yours have a prosper New Year's. One!
Thanks Kid! Happy New Year
Just yesterday I saw these packs and wondered when George would do a review. Love the channel!
I have the Ct5 in xpac and man that thing is so well built for its price!! AMAZING
This is so great! Alot of stuff isn't just overpriced it's overhyped. I mean GoRuck im sure it's Good but the price ... Man! US 375 n up?! Nah.... CT 21 for me
Have a Chuyen CT15. Sold my bullet as the CT15 is just as good for way less money and has the laptop panel which the bullet didn’t. Also fits my MBP16 but just barely.
Does CTactical not make a GR2 alternative?
Great video we can't all afford the higher market items but still want nice things, you legend
Great product terrible customer service
from one backpack junkie to another, thanks man! Is there anywhere in north america to order this? I recently discovered lapg terrain stealth backpack that seems to be a bit "inspired" by the vertx gamut. Have you got your hands on one yet?
I don't think so.. I think ship from Vietnam
Great pack! Great review! Somehow Carrylogy Classified absolutely condemned this awesome pack and company..oh well..they don't know what they missing.
Well this ain't that.. lol
Great review George! I purchase the Ct 15 several months ago for work/EDC and will give you my thoughts. My load out includes a 13” laptop, 11” iPad, CCW ( Velcro tape in front slash pocket ) gym clothes, tech pouch, couple of organizers to hold knife, flashlight, pens, etc. Carries all easily, comfortable small package. I’ve used this pack several months and looks brand new. This includes weekend, second travel bag as well as EDC/work. Superior to Goruck 15 because of frame sheet and laptop compartment. I’m not hiking the Andes or the Appalachian trail but this pack has been fantastic for my use. Paid a little over $100 including shipping. Keep up the good work!
hello user...would the CT15 fit good weight plates safely?
@@sebastianboninodiaz5495 I don't have the CT15 but I have a Goruck GR1. I feel the CT15 can work with weights up to 35lb MAX because CT needs to widen up the straps for a more comfortable carry with weights exceeding 35lb. If they do widen the straps you'd be able to ruck with more than 35 lbs.
The shipping has gotten better for U.S. customers albeit still bad compared to many retailers. About $28 for a CT21.
For sure but for what you get + materials and quality of life improvements compared to a Goruck for EDC (I have a The Brown Buffalo Concealpack 21L and a GR1 in 1000D) the price is still more than worth it.
Thanks for the comparison. Do you know if there is a bag that holds a plate in it for rucking?
real men use umbrellas :)
I am really interested in the CT15 because you can add a water bottle on the side unlike with the bullet, but that shipping cost is super high!
is the CT21 big enough to carry clothes and shoes for the gym?
Wait what, that small sling bag is 5 liter?!? Looked like it was hardly 2 or so
You can connect the CT-5 with CT-21 by Molle
Man love the video! A good budget friendly alternative. Much love!
Can not find in Europe to buy!
Can you review the Ogio renegade Pro. What do you think of this pack
The new version 3.0 much more better.
Great breakdown! I like that they added spots for a waist belt. Any backpack bigger than about 18L that DOESN'T have a waist strap or at least the option to add one like that is an immediate no-go for me.
Where does one find a hip belt for the CT21?
They just release V Pac version n all orange version is coming soon
Where do I go to purchase this bag?
Should check out Cartenz Tactical Strider and Croft 0.3 . It is similar to Goruck, similar quality (500D Cordura & YKK zip), raincover included, and similar theme (EDC backpack with casual look).
Stay away from this brand. My account was charged without even completing the checkout process. Customer service is absolutely terrible, i received no help whatsoever and shipping is half of the cost of the actual bag. There are better more trustworthy brands out there. Vidoes seen on youtube are all sponsored...
Wow. I’m glad I found this video! I want another bullet/ gr1 to offset my gr2 but I don’t think I want to spend the coin for another GR bag. This Vietnamese offering might be the solution!
Hi, thanks for nice review. I am wonder if back compartment of CT15 can handle 15,6 inch DELL Vostro? Or I must use laptop sleeve in main compartment?
looks like a tight fit, you can watch from 14:00 onwards. Suggest you go for CT21 if you are carrying 15 inches laptop.
Had this been around I may have never got a GR1.
You should try SAVOTTA LJK202 from Finland, simple but they are bombproof
Bro, your outfit at 0:00??? Excuse me???? Bro that's one amazing outfit!!!
Hey where can I get your patch?
So how do you buy items and ship here? Doesn’t seem to be an option
Just email them.. the will get right back
Can u help confirm ct15 width? Is it 26cm or 29 cm? The website state different measurement
Yeah that bag “eyeballs” at bigger than 21L. I would have guessed 26ish.
Interesting WWII Ranger style patch. Outsider? What is that patch about?
GoRuck doesn't have a monopoly on this design. It's so funny seeing the Carryology guys try to use that argument. Taylor Welden is an elitist clown who thinks having a beard and wearing a hat are personality traits. I wouldn't trust his opinion on anything.
Fantastic review. Last time I checked, the CT 21 was $60 shipping to Atlanta. I was ready to buy one, but found a Whitley resale for about the same money.
The shipping was just way too much for a $60 pack. It’s almost 2/3 of the bullet. Rather getting a bullet through huckberry to save international shipping, while enjoying a better quality pack and most importantly warranty
@@tomchiu4170 wouldn’t be my choice for a bullet. However, $130 for the CT21 vs 325 for a GR1 was worth considering.
Anyone throwing ruck plates in these and using them for rucking?
Great review George! Where can we get the George Defined patch?
Email me georgedefined@gmail.com
Very good video! I was wondering if you have a comparison between the ct21 and nitecore bp23?
But is it available in Mas Grey?
Hey George how long it takes from Vietnam to USA to arrive?
I've been wanting to try and get a CT15 so I appreciate this review. Now to decide between cordura or X-Pac
I've been EDCing both a 500D and a "VX42" CT15 since last August, ask me anything🙂
@@union4ever23 which one do you prefer for EDC? Have you used them as a personal item/one bag travel? If so, how much clothing can it fit?
@@harunomiya Hi Miya,
I would say that I have a slight preference for the 500D CT15 for EDC because the VX42 version slides a little on my back unless I’m using the sternum strap. I live in NYC and really like the CT15 for urban EDC since it’s narrower than my back and not too deep so I don’t bump into stuff even in fairly tight spaces. Organization in the CT15 is good without being overly-specific, and there’s plenty of attachment options inside & out for panel organizers, admin pouches, etc.
The CT15’s ideal max load is probably in the 7.5kg range, although I’ve rucked with the 500D version several times carrying a 20 lb ruck plate (so maybe 12.5 kg all up). In that case the bag carried the weight well, but the narrower straps started to dig into my traps after about 45 minutes or so.
Here’s some other thoughts on both versions:
VX42
- The dark grey version looks killer IRL (Multicam Alpine would perfect!)
- The Bag material and AquaGuard zippers work well to keep everything dry, but a heavy downpour will still cause some dampness under the grab handle as moisture will eventually penetrate the stitching there. The nice kids at Chuyen Tactical did throw in a free rainfly for each bag when I bought them in-store in HCM City though.
- The cordage on the Beam Puller style zipper pulls is on the thin side and can work loose from the zipper itself, although I haven’t lost one yet.
500D Cordura
- Feels softer & less structured than VX42, but still stands up when set down on its bottom.
- The 500D handles snow, mist and light rain well, but I’d want a dry bag or rainfly for steady rain.
- The standard YKK RC zippers are smoother than the AquaGuard versions. I also find the paracord zipper pulls a little easier to manipulate, especially when wearing gloves.
Hope this helps, more thoughts on travel use to follow:-)
@@union4ever23 Hi! Thank you much for taking the time to share your in-depth thoughts. You definitely helped with considerations i haven thought of. Anything else you would like to share would be much appreciated.
I have: Arc'teryx Assault Pack 30, Vanquest IBEX-26, MARKHOR-45. This kind of backpacks with external additions for full equipment. I'm looking for something small like that, up to 20 liters. I'm thinking about Eberlestock Bandit H31, but a 15" laptop does not fit there. As a great subject expert, could you advise something?
I like the Vanquest Katara 16
Nice review man. Tons of knowledge dropped, appreciate it
I really like that sling.... Thanks for the review as always!!!
❤️🧡💛💚💙
Awesome stuff George. Keep it coming!
George is the best!!!!!!!!!
With shipping. The ct-15 is $125. In your opinion is the CT a quality pack? I like quality. Or should I pay a extra $100 for the goruck 16? Any help will be appreciated.
I got the CT21 black burn for $71 including shipping. I live in Singapore. I can tell you that this bag is awesome. I have the AER city pack pro and the Osprey apogee. This CT21 is currently my favorite because of the external laptop compartment, the internal 2 side pockets for water bottle and umbrella, and it manages to look slim when fully loaded. For the price, it is too good. I’m planning to get their future release.
@@Salty_Biscuitz88 thanks for answering. I guess George don’t answer his followers. I currently have the Recycled firefighter 24. I just want to know if these packs are of same quality? I’m going to get the X-pac version. I heard the Aer city pack is good too.
@@JWtube88 Hi Jeremiah, I'm not too sure with the comparison with the firefighter 24, but the CT21 is pretty exceptional for the asking price. I could imagine their X-pac version to be good as well. Personally I will be getting the black X-pac version or if there is black widow version of the CT21 being released.
@@Salty_Biscuitz88 is your ct21 stand rigid when packed out? Or does it bend?
@@JWtube88 it stand rigid on its own.
Fantastic review.
Excellent review.
I ordered one of these. Thx!
Another awesome review! Also, where did you get that shirt?
I got it frombthe Carhartt website.. I love their stuff.. I'm turning in my Dad..lol
@@GeorgeDEFINED well you look great in it.
Looks like someone deleted my comment...
Nah, this goes beyond being "inspired by". They've intentionally copied the visual style of Goruck, down to the details like grab handle and laptop compartment. It's great that they made some minor tweaks, but it's not a bag I would buy or a company I would support personally. Kind of surprised that after reading 70 comments I'm the only one that feels this way. There are so many great affordable bags out there (including 2nd hand) that I can't see the justification for getting one of these.
Not saying I have any problem with the review (on point as always!) just thought I'd throw in my opinion to slightly balance things out!
Maybe its coz GORUCK has been overcharging for the same kind of bag and quality all along.
Well done.
just shows how overpriced goruck is lmao