Many compressors have a duty cycle. The cheap one you toasted probably has a two minute on five minute off duty cycle. If this is followed the plastic piston last longer. I'd be curious to what the instructions on that compressor say. It would definitely take much much longer to fill a tire but in a pinch or lack of funds it is better than a bicycle pump!!! Keep the great content! *I did post this separately but thought it would be useful info for others.
Every time I see a compressor test I hope to see the Viair dual 400 go up against the ARB dual, but nobody seems to know it exists. It's about $300 so almost half the cost of the ARB, and has higher volume than the ARB -ie airs up tires faster. The only drawback is it's rated 33% duty cycle vs the 100% ARB (note Viair does offer it as 100% as well with a reduced volume). HOWEVER - I've used mine to air up 10 tires back-to-back (playing in the dunes with friends who didn't have compressors) without overheating and most people report they've never hit the thermal cut-out. The 33% is EXTREMELY conservative and I've never come close to hitting the thermal cut-off doing one truck/4 tires. I've also 'raced' mine against identical trucks with the same size tires and yes, it's faster if only a bit. But again - half the price! I can only guess people don't use it in the comparisons because it requires you to mount it yourself instead of coming with pre-fab bolt in no-drill kits like the ARB? But come on - we're wheelers here. I thought only mall-crawlers needed pre-fab bolt ons?
Consider adding a small tank to your dual arb. I run mine with 37s that I usually drop to 4psi I kick the compressor on while I'm getting my hoses out and have a full tank ready when I start filling. Then while you are switching wheels your compressor is still doing work and speeding up your fill even faster.
Thank you for another great episode! An important thing to remember when comparing price is that a Power Tank is sold as a complete system with a hose, brackets, and tire inflator while most compressors sell those items separately for an added price. Also included in the price of a Power Tank is a limited lifetime warranty and excellent customer service. No other portable air system gives you that. There are folks out wheeling with Power Tanks that are 20+ years old and have outlasted the vehicles they were originally mounted to!
Power Tank Official on average how many times can you fill up a set of four tires (20lbs each tire). I know it’s based on the size of tank. Just curious how often I’d have to fill up the tank
Arb has given me excellent customer service on my dual arb. A phone call has always gotten me replacement parts or an rma with a prepaid way ill from Canada to send it in for repairs. My compressor is now 8 years old and with a phone call and telling them my sn arb shipped me a complete motor assembly after asking if I prefred them to ship the part or rma the entire winch. To say that compressor manufacturers don't have good customer service is really not fair and is a bit of a low blow coming from a manufacturer. You are quite fair to mention the added cost of brackets, hoses, and chucks though.
Many compressors have a duty cycle. The cheap one you toasted probably has a two minute on five minute off duty cycle. If this is followed the plastic piston last longer. I'd be curious to what the instructions on that compressor say. It would definitely take much much longer to fill a tire but in a pinch or lack of funds it is better than a bicycle pump!!! Keep the great content!
@@Contrarian_Misfit that is pretty decent cycle time for an emergency trunk unit! Running a homebrew "powertank" and an ARB Dual in my rig have come in handy in their own ways but how much is one willing to spend!? I have used a bicycle pump once...once.
I used to run dual Viair 480C kit mounted directly on the frame of my 97 Ford F250 HD and they held up great for years of year round weather exposure here in Michigan with our winter salt. I just picked up a dual Air Zenith dual OB2 compressor kit that will be going on my 2020 Silverado 2500HD for air horns and tire inflation and whatever else lol. Each OB2 compressor is basically two of the 480C's. This should be a beast of an onboard air system.
I've run a Power Tank for 15 years. A couple of years ago I added a 20lb tank and have never looked back. I have never forgotten to fill the tank. I drive a Rubi so the lockers are electric.
The engine should be running while operating the compressor. The loss of voltage makes the compressor run much hotter not to mention wearing down your battery.
Also for the cheaper air compressors most of them work better if you start it up before hooking it up to your tire. I don't exactly know why but in the past I've blown fuses in these cheap compressors because of not starting it then hooking it up.
I have the big portable compressor from harbor freight, which was about $60 i think. had it for about 5 years. first use, we just ran it till it overheated and had to wait for it to cool off....took forever. after that i set out to improve it's cooling. I added a small heat sync from an old computer to the top of the cylinder and actually modified it so that it draws air through the motor to help cool it. after that it aired up 2 trucks with 31's before overheating. but then I knew it was gonna take forever to cool down and air up my truck with 33's, and I had a genius idea to take a wet rag and cool it off faster. it was so hot the rag was sizzling when i touched it! but that did the trick and ever since I always use a wet rag to help cool it off, plus it gives you something to do while waiting for it to air up. my old truck had 33's, my new truck has 32's and it takes about 20 min to air up from 12-15psi to 35psi. with my slick water cooled trick I have run it continuously for over an hour doing 3 trucks when I was the only one with a compressor! maybe i need some better prepared friends. lol
I have 35’s and use the Smittybuilt compressor. Give the Amazon one to someone who needs a compressor. Great videos , I’ve learned a lot watching yours and Cassie’s
I’ve had a portable one for years. It’s rated to pump up a 300 psi trailer tire. I’ve filled a trailer tire up to 225 and it didn’t go any higher. It is slow but only cost me like 60 bucks over ten years ago so I’ve gotten my money back. Still works today:)
You can put your own c02 tank setup together for 200 bucks. Extra bottles run around 100. C02 is a great option to run lockers as well, they take very little air to lock and unlock, no moisture being transferred into your axle housing, no electrical to to worry about, it’s portable also.
Really awesome comparison Ben. All my buddies have the Smittybuilt portable and they would get so hot and take so long. I invested in a powertank and I love it. It's quiet and takes like 30 seconds or so to fill up my 33s. It's expensive, but I believe in their product and I expect it to last a long while. You have to swap the tank every few trips, but to me it's worth the speed and the sound. You also have the ability to move it and use it outside the Jeep, run tools, and even re-seat beads. (obviously I don't need to be considered for the giveaway)
I have a 2004 TJ ...I have 35’s and I use the Dual ARB Compressor...I also have it plumbed into my front bumper that gives me about a 3 gallon tank. Works great.
I have the Viair continuous run compressor. We aired up three JK’s after the Rubicon Trail two 35’s one 37. Yes the compressor was hot. That was two years ago and it’s still runs great.
I just bought a JT and am throwing some 35s on it. I am new to the Jeep life style but your videos are great for giving me ideas and leading me in the right direction!!
That's a setup I've really been considering, however I don't think the valve is slowing down the compressor. The reason I say this is I run a small 1L tank with my dual arb. By the time I finish a tire I have time to put the valve cap back on and move to the next tire and take its cap off and the tank is still not quite finished refilling. This is with standard valves.
I just acquired a 2010 JK on 40s. It came with a single arb dedicated to the airlockers and then two viair 350c compressors on a 2 gallon tank all under the hood for tires and tools.
Just installed and ARB locker in the rear Ford 9" on my TJ and absolutely love the Twin ARB compressor! So nice not to have to lug around my Smittybuilt portable and it is literally twice as fast! Great video!
I use a VIAIR 450PA, works great and I built a hose to fill 4 tires, or deflate 4 tires, at one time. From 15 psi to 30 psi takes just a few minutes. I never timed it, but it is a great compressor that has been around a while. It has 100% duty cycle and uses battery clamps so it is portable. At the time it was about $100-$150 cheaper than the ARB. It has an automatic shut off when the hose hits 150 psi, and it also will shut down if the temperature gets too hot. VIAIR is a very good compressor.
My dad has used a smittybuilt portable compressor for as long as I can remember and it’s worked fine. He is running 37x14.50r15 it does take forever to air up but it works
I'm running 35's on my Tacoma and 37's on my Jeep. The "too low for driving on the street " line reminded me that I need to mess with the pressure on the Jeep to see what rides better. A video on different pressures for different setups and scenarios would be low cost and a good time to reveal the winner. 🤷🏿♂️
I have single arb for lockers n dual arb running 37s n 40s . I've also had smitty built 10 gallon air tank but too small for 40s. Runs out of air too fast so upgraded to 15lb. power tank n oh boy it is night n day differents . Power tank is amazing so smooth fast n airchuck is super heavy duty . I thought my arb airchuck was nice . For me power tank is my choice for tires. Love your channel. Keep up the great content.
Hey Ben, I ended up running the ARB Dual Compressor on my JKU. I also have a 10lb Power Tank as a back-up, which allows for running air tools, and it can be switched from my Jeep to my truck when needed. Works for me. Thanks to you and Cassie for the videos.
I've got an 87 YJ and a 14 JKU both on 35's. Bought the Smittybilt portable compressor and it works great for when there's a line at the filling station coming off the beach. The only off roading I do 😁
Another pro for the Power Tank is that it get's ice cold when in use instead of insanely hot like the air compressors. I have owned a Power Tank and the Dual ARB and if forced to pick one it would be the Dual ARB. I have used it on tires as big as 38's and right now I use it on 33's and 34's on the Toyota's. I usually take my 34's from 12 PSI up to 34 PSI and it takes around 1:45 to air up one tire.
I run 37s and a JKOBA system from Klein air horns. Duel fully waterproofed pumps, a 2(ish) gallon tank, and comes with all the hardware to install it. It’s also fully skid plated. The air is ran to my rear bumper. I can inflate my 37s from 20 to 40 psi in about 10 minutes
I have the single arb and 35’s. Never timed it but I’d say it’s about 15 minutes for all tires, I’ve learned to use that time efficiently, putting sway bars back on, checking under the Jeep, putting straps and shackles away, and straighten out the winch if I used it. I actually like taking that time before getting in the road.
Another good use for the power tank and the large air valve is if you roll the tyre off the bead and are able to half re-seat the bead you have enough flow to pop the tyre back on in most cases
On my 01 TJ ive been running the same ARB single compressor for 6 years with no problems. It handles my little ole 33s with ease, along with my ARB rear locker and had no problems airing up the dodge 2500s tires which run at 80lbs of pressure. Im gone have to check out the Power Tank though, I like that setup.
Thanks for putting in effort in to the intro, No matter how cheesy! Also, I have been running a cheap Amazon special for about 8 years, but, BUT, only running 33's, and never below 12 psi. I always air up to 25 before I hit the road, and finish at home with a regular compressor. It will go boom soon tho. It doesn't owe me a thing! Cheers.
Good info thanks !! I just got a '23 JLUR 392 XR and will either get the single or dual ARB. But, on my TJ, I have the Kilby OBA (which is a converted York air compressor). You don't have to remove your factory A/C - it comes with a mounting bracket and a larger serpentine belt - and a 1 gallon tank. Great system and a little faster than the single ARB but not as fast as the dual.
I really like the idea of the dual ARB. The power tank is fast but comes with some extra hassle and a hard mounted air compressor is always there, doesn't need refills or much checking and takes up less space and you always have it. You're not gonna take it out when driving around town day to day and hit a nail and wish you had it. And cheaper in the long run because free air. Maybe if you're airing up and down constantly and those few minutes are super important the power tank would be worth it?
Wow! I’ve been pushing my portable, but that could be a bad thing to have on the trail. Need the twin arb. That aired up so fast. I know I watched a sunset go too complete darkness waiting on my tires to air up once, and I’m always down to help out my group I’m with. This is definitely a video many have thoughts on just because depending on how much you wheel may be the reason you go for one over the other, and then there are air lockers you can hook up also. Awesome video!
Check out the MoorFlat kit to level pressure on all tires at once with the digital gauge. It's built like a TANK. Clip on vale adapters, etc. So worth the money, especially with honking tires of that size. You can also air down all 4 tires at once to the exact size you want within minutes.
Love the intro! I’m always a fan of having at least 2 options, which means Powertank and an ARB dual compressor with a 2gal air tank. CO2 is great, but you never know when having an unlimited air supply will come in handy. 😀👍🏻
Great video... I just got my arb twin put into my JT. It took 2 min 30 seconds per tire to fill from 13 to 25 psi on my 37’s... why did this take soo long... I was close to 9000 feet up in the mountains of Colorado. Cool to see that the compressors work faster at different elevations.
Best product review vids around, keep em comin’ guys!! Also, put my name in the runnin’ for that portable one. I’m thinking about going the ARB route for sure
I run 35's on my TJ , 37's on the JLUR and 37's also on the JTR .. and we use the twin ARB .. kind of have the same fleet as you .. like the channel.. love the videos 👍
the bigger harbor freight portable compressor has impressed me since ive gotten it. i can air up all 4 of my 31s from 8 to 35 psi in under 20 minutes and i even aired a buddy up after working it so hard. it is a 30 amp air compressor tho you cant use the cig port you have to hook it to your battery.
True story. I have been using the Air Hawk (As seen on TV) with my 35s for the last 3 wheeling trips. I'm getting dual compressors from ARB going on next week because I'm getting 40s and tons and ARB lockers but it has worked ok. 15 minutes on each tire. It gets hot but no smoke so far : )
Another great option is the Offroad Only (ORO) York air system. Which runs off of your engine serpentine belt. I have this and it cranks out more CFMs than the ARBs.
A 15lb power tank costs me $42 to fill in S A California . And you didn’t mention the monster valves are going to cost you $250 - $300 for a set of 4 - 5 valves. Although I love my power tank. If I knew then what I know now. I would have went with the duel ARB compressor.
My York compressor on my JL mounted to the harmonic balancer, without sacrificing anything, like A/C. Available from Off Road Only. I got the full air suspension from Steve, so it requires the longevity that an electric pump just can't keep up with.
Have a relatively stock TJ. Changing out the tires that came on the Jeep with a set of A/Ts that should be in on Monday. That compressor would be great to have in the Jeep while at college.
the Cheapo Portable air compressor is still really good on Bone Stock tires. 255/75R16 or such size for Light Truck / passenger car to help you get your Hauling truck out of the parking lot and to a gas station to get better air. I have a $30 Walmart bought compressor that i have used a number of times, to help friends and co-workers. Only takes a few minutes. There is no need to air up your tires in 1 minute or less, unless you are blocking a road, Your friends on the trail will understand.
Out on the trail maybe? But after 'Tyre Extinguishers' have hit, all 4 will be down to 0, so thanks for the video. 11 minutes seems a hell of a long time all the same!
Just bought myself the larger Smittybilt portable compressor. Haven’t had the chance to use it yet because of obvious reasons lol but I’m on 35s plan to jump to 37s or 38s. I feel like it’ll perform well for the price. Dual ARB will happen one day. When my electric lockers are toast ad I go to air lockers most likely.
On my super duty truck, I have 3000 watt inverter which I power a compact dewalt low profile electric portable air compressor with a tank that takes 35 inch tires around 40 seconds. Many different options. All boils down to time, money, and where you want to burn your energy
I have a larger Viair that I use, but also bring along a cheapo unit as well as the one built into my jump box only for anyone with stockers that needs to air up, but didn’t bring a compressor. Good timing on this video as I have been looking to upgrade to a singe or dual ARB. Running 37’s and no issues with the Viair, but looking for some faster fill up options so I’m free to help some of the other members of the group.
Currently running 31's on my XJ without a airing up solution, have to stop at a local gas station to air up. Would love to be added to the drawing for the compressor! Thanks and keep the great vids coming!
I wanna be entered. Another great video. You help us to learn how to install things and helps us to belt we can do it without taking it to a shop. Just like your wife's page, her welding gussets on her axles..etc, some channels are to concerned about sponsors more commercialized and having someone or shops do the installs. Thank you for helping us through installs. Keepem coming
Hi there, great subject. For the CO2 tank how often would you need to refill it if you’re airing up 40’s? Don’t stop doing what you do for us. It’s great to see real people doing what we do. Cheers,
Even if you don’t air down, it saves you the trouble of buying air if you live in an apartment or dragging out a big compressor , needing air when it gets cold. I have a homemade short whip for every tire.
True - I think a lot of others don't publish specs because they aren't that good. While the ARB dual is good, it's twice the cost of the Viair dual and still puts out less volume. Another important detail that was overlooked is any compressor puts out less volume as the pressure goes up. So if you're running an E rated tire at 50 psi on the road (like one of my rigs) you're going to need A LOT more compressor, even if it's a fairly small tire.
Your Jeeps all look so good. I noticed that a lot of Jeeps have to wait in line at AOAA trail park to add air to the tires on the exit parking lot. Having a portable air unit would be a good idea for my JKU Willys.
I built a DIY 10 lb Co2 system for about 200 bucks. I have it mounted on window molle panels and quick fist clamps in my XJ. I threw the tank in the back seat in the JK.
There's going to be a difference between front tire and rear tire due to weight distribution. Which brings up another point, besides tire size and specification, vehicle weight is a factor. Your tests apply to Jeep weighted vehicles, which I get it, it's a Jeep channel. I found out when I went to a 3/4 ton Burb from a TJ, the single ARB would overheat and shut off midway thru the 4th tire and those were 33" BFG KO2s. I would run them at 55lbs on that truck, so a lot more air up time and weight to contend with. I had a little trick. I poured water on the compressor to cool it, and I could restart it to finish. I'm in a 7,000 lb + Power Wagon now with 37" Toyos, still with the same single ARB. I haven't really tested it out yet. The Toyos have really stout sidewalls so I actually run lower than the Burb. I run 45 front and 35 rear. It will be interesting to see how the single ARB does with that. In the long run, I know the dual ARB is the right scale for the heavier trucks not only in duty cycle but also speed convenience. It's no fun cooking in the heat and humidity while your waiting for tires to fill up.
I bought a pair of portable heavy-duty dual-cylinder portable air compressors made by Tirewell off of Amazon. They have a duty rating of 10 minutes on, 15 minutes off. I actually bought only one initially, and found that it takes about 5 minutes to inflate a 31" tire from 15 psi to 35 psi. That meant I had to do two tires, and then let it rest for 15 minutes, and then do the other two tires. That meant that it took me almost 40 minutes to inflate my tires. So I bought a second one and I run them at the same time. I've had them for a few years and have probably aired up 10 times and they show no indication of having issues. My process takes about 10 minutes now, and the two compressors combined cost about 130 bucks.
I run the ARB single n my TJ and a 20# co2 tank in our JKUR all on 35s. I love my tank but I will say that ARB customer service is outstanding an very helpful. I was 3 years out of warranty, had a piston failure and call them asking for a rebuild kit. they said they would send me a new motor unit with the built in piston...Far and beyond customer service. Forever an ARB customer when buying lockers and such in the future. My 20# tank is from a home brew store and re do tank exchange for $8 per tank. Got the regulator off Amazon and been ballin for 2 years...I can air up a 35 about 28 times from 12 to 32psi (about 7 or 8 wheeling trips) per 20# tank.
I have 37s on my Ram 1500. I was going to get a Viair 400p or 440 portable, but I managed to catch someone selling a 10lb PowerTank for a REALLY good price and I picked it up. Takes me less than 5 minutes to air up all tires from 20psi to about 35-37psi. Now I want a 20lb tank for less fill ups because room isn't an issue for me, but I have to find a place to refill the tank for a descent price.
I've had an ARB twin in my work truck since 2013ish that I use only on rare occasions. It's hard mounted, covered and close to a spare battery. It's not bad at moving air, but I've had it mechanically fail WAY too often for the $500+ it costs. Sheared /loose bolts between the motor eccentric/crank and the piston as well as a couple failed relays. I think a decent Viair might be a little slower, but would be more cost effective, more reliable, easier to diagnose and fix in the field if need be.
I use a 20 lb tank that I exchange when empty with Airgas. I also have a 3/8" hose with high-flow fittings, so the biggest restriction would be the valve in the tire. Cost to exchange is $20.
I've found that there's a huge range of quality and capacity in portable units. I've been using a "150psi rated high-volume" portable for around two years with 33x11.50's- making sure to stay inside the recommended run-time and performing the recommended cylinder maintenance. It's max run time before needing a 5 minute rest is about 8 minutes; to go from the 10psi I run on the trail to the 28psi I run on the street is about 3.5 minutes per tire. Not light speed, but still getting it done in about 20 minutes on the cheap. It's head needs to be removed for a couple drops of upper and lower cylinder oil about every 2 hours of use, or about 20 tires (which is really easy); and it definitely can't run tools. I'll tell you right now it can whoop the shit out of a half dozen pool floaties in no time flat, though! Considering it's $65 price tag and the minor maintenance required, it's been an excellent option while my TJ build is pre locker, but I'm still airing up and down tires while saving up coin to build the onboard air/locker system. If it gets me down the trail, I figure I can worry about style later : ).
Another great option I didn’t mention, Viar portable unit. I put a link to it in the video description!
Many compressors have a duty cycle. The cheap one you toasted probably has a two minute on five minute off duty cycle. If this is followed the plastic piston last longer. I'd be curious to what the instructions on that compressor say. It would definitely take much much longer to fill a tire but in a pinch or lack of funds it is better than a bicycle pump!!!
Keep the great content!
*I did post this separately but thought it would be useful info for others.
Viair on my wish list
Powertanks new Monster Valc 3 does not require you to tap the hole. You can also carfully drill a larger hole in a regular valv.
I wanna be entered in the give away.
Good informative video. Thanks.
Every time I see a compressor test I hope to see the Viair dual 400 go up against the ARB dual, but nobody seems to know it exists. It's about $300 so almost half the cost of the ARB, and has higher volume than the ARB -ie airs up tires faster. The only drawback is it's rated 33% duty cycle vs the 100% ARB (note Viair does offer it as 100% as well with a reduced volume). HOWEVER - I've used mine to air up 10 tires back-to-back (playing in the dunes with friends who didn't have compressors) without overheating and most people report they've never hit the thermal cut-out. The 33% is EXTREMELY conservative and I've never come close to hitting the thermal cut-off doing one truck/4 tires. I've also 'raced' mine against identical trucks with the same size tires and yes, it's faster if only a bit. But again - half the price!
I can only guess people don't use it in the comparisons because it requires you to mount it yourself instead of coming with pre-fab bolt in no-drill kits like the ARB? But come on - we're wheelers here. I thought only mall-crawlers needed pre-fab bolt ons?
I’ve had a 10lb powertank for 10+ years and love it. I even have a powertank setup for my Yukon zip lockers. No noise and works amazing
Consider adding a small tank to your dual arb. I run mine with 37s that I usually drop to 4psi I kick the compressor on while I'm getting my hoses out and have a full tank ready when I start filling. Then while you are switching wheels your compressor is still doing work and speeding up your fill even faster.
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Thank you for another great episode! An important thing to remember when comparing price is that a Power Tank is sold as a complete system with a hose, brackets, and tire inflator while most compressors sell those items separately for an added price. Also included in the price of a Power Tank is a limited lifetime warranty and excellent customer service. No other portable air system gives you that. There are folks out wheeling with Power Tanks that are 20+ years old and have outlasted the vehicles they were originally mounted to!
Power Tank Official on average how many times can you fill up a set of four tires (20lbs each tire). I know it’s based on the size of tank. Just curious how often I’d have to fill up the tank
@@allterralandscapeservices3112 It also depends on the size of the tire. We have a handy air up chart here. powertank.com/pages/tire-air-up-chart
Thanks for posting a comment and reminding me to purchase that replacement monster valve I’ve been needing for my spare tire.
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Arb has given me excellent customer service on my dual arb. A phone call has always gotten me replacement parts or an rma with a prepaid way ill from Canada to send it in for repairs. My compressor is now 8 years old and with a phone call and telling them my sn arb shipped me a complete motor assembly after asking if I prefred them to ship the part or rma the entire winch. To say that compressor manufacturers don't have good customer service is really not fair and is a bit of a low blow coming from a manufacturer. You are quite fair to mention the added cost of brackets, hoses, and chucks though.
Many compressors have a duty cycle. The cheap one you toasted probably has a two minute on five minute off duty cycle. If this is followed the plastic piston last longer. I'd be curious to what the instructions on that compressor say. It would definitely take much much longer to fill a tire but in a pinch or lack of funds it is better than a bicycle pump!!!
Keep the great content!
@@boriscook6817 ? Not sure I follow you... Duty cycles on equipment and then going to zero psi.
Yeah even the expensive ones seem to have a duty cycle. Definitely needs to be taken into consideration.
My little energizer runs for 8 min needs a 2-3 min break before running 8 min again. Takes about 25 min to air up 1 tire.
@@Contrarian_Misfit that is pretty decent cycle time for an emergency trunk unit! Running a homebrew "powertank" and an ARB Dual in my rig have come in handy in their own ways but how much is one willing to spend!? I have used a bicycle pump once...once.
Thumbs up for Cassie trying to open the hood like a TJ 🤣
Running 37 on my JKU, very happy with my Viair 400p. I air down almost every week
too many people overlook the Viair dual 400C best deal out there imo
I used to run dual Viair 480C kit mounted directly on the frame of my 97 Ford F250 HD and they held up great for years of year round weather exposure here in Michigan with our winter salt. I just picked up a dual Air Zenith dual OB2 compressor kit that will be going on my 2020 Silverado 2500HD for air horns and tire inflation and whatever else lol. Each OB2 compressor is basically two of the 480C's. This should be a beast of an onboard air system.
Totally worth running the Jeep while airing up, running the comps at 14.4v gets you there even faster ;)
I’m running 35s with the single arb also runs my lockers it’s great considering I don’t have beadlocks so I usually run around 12 to 15 psi
I've run a Power Tank for 15 years. A couple of years ago I added a 20lb tank and have never looked back. I have never forgotten to fill the tank. I drive a Rubi so the lockers are electric.
The engine should be running while operating the compressor. The loss of voltage makes the compressor run much hotter not to mention wearing down your battery.
Also for the cheaper air compressors most of them work better if you start it up before hooking it up to your tire. I don't exactly know why but in the past I've blown fuses in these cheap compressors because of not starting it then hooking it up.
As voltage drops, amperage draw increases.
I have the big portable compressor from harbor freight, which was about $60 i think. had it for about 5 years. first use, we just ran it till it overheated and had to wait for it to cool off....took forever. after that i set out to improve it's cooling. I added a small heat sync from an old computer to the top of the cylinder and actually modified it so that it draws air through the motor to help cool it. after that it aired up 2 trucks with 31's before overheating. but then I knew it was gonna take forever to cool down and air up my truck with 33's, and I had a genius idea to take a wet rag and cool it off faster. it was so hot the rag was sizzling when i touched it! but that did the trick and ever since I always use a wet rag to help cool it off, plus it gives you something to do while waiting for it to air up.
my old truck had 33's, my new truck has 32's and it takes about 20 min to air up from 12-15psi to 35psi. with my slick water cooled trick I have run it continuously for over an hour doing 3 trucks when I was the only one with a compressor! maybe i need some better prepared friends. lol
As a new jeep owner the portable air Compressor would be a great start to developing my off-road skills.
Seems like a good gift to give to my mom for Mother’s Day. Add me to the drawing. Thanks.
I have 35’s and use the Smittybuilt compressor. Give the Amazon one to someone who needs a compressor. Great videos , I’ve learned a lot watching yours and Cassie’s
I’ve had a portable one for years. It’s rated to pump up a 300 psi trailer tire. I’ve filled a trailer tire up to 225 and it didn’t go any higher. It is slow but only cost me like 60 bucks over ten years ago so I’ve gotten my money back. Still works today:)
You can put your own c02 tank setup together for 200 bucks. Extra bottles run around 100. C02 is a great option to run lockers as well, they take very little air to lock and unlock, no moisture being transferred into your axle housing, no electrical to to worry about, it’s portable also.
Good info. I like that Cassie is in a lot of your videos now. You're two channels are great!
I have a twin air under the seat of my two door and love it and use it more than I thought I would..
Currently using the smittybilt 5.4 high volume. Great option when on sale. Great video!!
Lafe Ball mine lasted about 5 trips...I now run the viair dual 400.
Really awesome comparison Ben. All my buddies have the Smittybuilt portable and they would get so hot and take so long. I invested in a powertank and I love it. It's quiet and takes like 30 seconds or so to fill up my 33s. It's expensive, but I believe in their product and I expect it to last a long while. You have to swap the tank every few trips, but to me it's worth the speed and the sound. You also have the ability to move it and use it outside the Jeep, run tools, and even re-seat beads. (obviously I don't need to be considered for the giveaway)
I have a 2004 TJ ...I have 35’s and I use the Dual ARB Compressor...I also have it plumbed into my front bumper that gives me about a 3 gallon tank. Works great.
I had just purchased the single ARB for my JK on 37, but now I'm going to send it back & buy the double.. Thanks for the video!!
You will like the dual setup a lot better for 37s
I have the Viair continuous run compressor. We aired up three JK’s after the Rubicon Trail two 35’s one 37. Yes the compressor was hot. That was two years ago and it’s still runs great.
I just bought a JT and am throwing some 35s on it. I am new to the Jeep life style but your videos are great for giving me ideas and leading me in the right direction!!
Maybe try the Monster valve with the dual ARB compressor?
I was thinking the same thing
That's a setup I've really been considering, however I don't think the valve is slowing down the compressor. The reason I say this is I run a small 1L tank with my dual arb. By the time I finish a tire I have time to put the valve cap back on and move to the next tire and take its cap off and the tank is still not quite finished refilling. This is with standard valves.
I just acquired a 2010 JK on 40s. It came with a single arb dedicated to the airlockers and then two viair 350c compressors on a 2 gallon tank all under the hood for tires and tools.
You guys are doing a great job working together!
@ *Marcus Barrett* they do make a great team, I noticed a couple of times Cassie wanted to say something but she waited until Ben was through talking.
Just installed and ARB locker in the rear Ford 9" on my TJ and absolutely love the Twin ARB compressor! So nice not to have to lug around my Smittybuilt portable and it is literally twice as fast! Great video!
I use a VIAIR 450PA, works great and I built a hose to fill 4 tires, or deflate 4 tires, at one time. From 15 psi to 30 psi takes just a few minutes. I never timed it, but it is a great compressor that has been around a while. It has 100% duty cycle and uses battery clamps so it is portable. At the time it was about $100-$150 cheaper than the ARB. It has an automatic shut off when the hose hits 150 psi, and it also will shut down if the temperature gets too hot. VIAIR is a very good compressor.
I run 35s on my TJ and my JK. I have carried a portable for years. I am going to mount a compressor soon. Great video.
My dad has used a smittybuilt portable compressor for as long as I can remember and it’s worked fine. He is running 37x14.50r15 it does take forever to air up but it works
I'm running 35's on my Tacoma and 37's on my Jeep. The "too low for driving on the street " line reminded me that I need to mess with the pressure on the Jeep to see what rides better.
A video on different pressures for different setups and scenarios would be low cost and a good time to reveal the winner. 🤷🏿♂️
I have single arb for lockers n dual arb running 37s n 40s . I've also had smitty built 10 gallon air tank but too small for 40s. Runs out of air too fast so upgraded to 15lb. power tank n oh boy it is night n day differents . Power tank is amazing so smooth fast n airchuck is super heavy duty . I thought my arb airchuck was nice . For me power tank is my choice for tires. Love your channel. Keep up the great content.
Hey Ben, I ended up running the ARB Dual Compressor on my JKU. I also have a 10lb Power Tank as a back-up, which allows for running air tools, and it can be switched from my Jeep to my truck when needed. Works for me. Thanks to you and Cassie for the videos.
As much as I use my portable and as long a I've had it, I should look into other options. Great comparison
I've got an 87 YJ and a 14 JKU both on 35's. Bought the Smittybilt portable compressor and it works great for when there's a line at the filling station coming off the beach. The only off roading I do 😁
very informative video, I would like seeing more like this because it can relate to everyone no matter what rig you have !
Another pro for the Power Tank is that it get's ice cold when in use instead of insanely hot like the air compressors. I have owned a Power Tank and the Dual ARB and if forced to pick one it would be the Dual ARB. I have used it on tires as big as 38's and right now I use it on 33's and 34's on the Toyota's. I usually take my 34's from 12 PSI up to 34 PSI and it takes around 1:45 to air up one tire.
I run 37s and a JKOBA system from Klein air horns. Duel fully waterproofed pumps, a 2(ish) gallon tank, and comes with all the hardware to install it. It’s also fully skid plated. The air is ran to my rear bumper.
I can inflate my 37s from 20 to 40 psi in about 10 minutes
I have the total overkill setup from Next Venture Motorsports and Air command. I am running 38s and it works amazing!
VIAIR 400P-Portable-Compressor is a great compressor, I use it for 35’s and it’s pretty quick and quiet.
"Hey Mum, here's an air compressor. Happy Mother's Day! Sorry it's not that vacuum cleaner you wanted."
I like the shot of the crocs at the beginning
I have the single arb and 35’s. Never timed it but I’d say it’s about 15 minutes for all tires, I’ve learned to use that time efficiently, putting sway bars back on, checking under the Jeep, putting straps and shackles away, and straighten out the winch if I used it. I actually like taking that time before getting in the road.
Another good use for the power tank and the large air valve is if you roll the tyre off the bead and are able to half re-seat the bead you have enough flow to pop the tyre back on in most cases
I would love to have a compressor. 6 mo into Jeep ownership and loving it! Winch and compressor are my next purchases.
Great video! I ended up getting the Smittybilt 6.5cfm compressor. More than enough for my 31's and eventually 33's
On my 01 TJ ive been running the same ARB single compressor for 6 years with no problems. It handles my little ole 33s with ease, along with my ARB rear locker and had no problems airing up the dodge 2500s tires which run at 80lbs of pressure. Im gone have to check out the Power Tank though, I like that setup.
Thanks for putting in effort in to the intro, No matter how cheesy!
Also, I have been running a cheap Amazon special for about 8 years, but, BUT, only running 33's, and never below 12 psi. I always air up to 25 before I hit the road, and finish at home with a regular compressor. It will go boom soon tho. It doesn't owe me a thing!
Cheers.
Great video! I am new to 4wheeling but your video gave me information when I am equipping my vehicle for off road trips. Thanks!
Good info thanks !! I just got a '23 JLUR 392 XR and will either get the single or dual ARB. But, on my TJ, I have the Kilby OBA (which is a converted York air compressor). You don't have to remove your factory A/C - it comes with a mounting bracket and a larger serpentine belt - and a 1 gallon tank. Great system and a little faster than the single ARB but not as fast as the dual.
I don’t remember if you mentioned that you can also run air lockers off of a power tank. 😊. Another great video! Keep up the great work.
I really like the idea of the dual ARB. The power tank is fast but comes with some extra hassle and a hard mounted air compressor is always there, doesn't need refills or much checking and takes up less space and you always have it. You're not gonna take it out when driving around town day to day and hit a nail and wish you had it. And cheaper in the long run because free air. Maybe if you're airing up and down constantly and those few minutes are super important the power tank would be worth it?
Wow! I’ve been pushing my portable, but that could be a bad thing to have on the trail. Need the twin arb. That aired up so fast. I know I watched a sunset go too complete darkness waiting on my tires to air up once, and I’m always down to help out my group I’m with.
This is definitely a video many have thoughts on just because depending on how much you wheel may be the reason you go for one over the other, and then there are air lockers you can hook up also.
Awesome video!
Check out the MoorFlat kit to level pressure on all tires at once with the digital gauge. It's built like a TANK. Clip on vale adapters, etc. So worth the money, especially with honking tires of that size. You can also air down all 4 tires at once to the exact size you want within minutes.
Be nice to have it in the old truck with 33s, mainly used to move stuff here on the property... Stay safe... Have a great day...
Love the intro! I’m always a fan of having at least 2 options, which means Powertank and an ARB dual compressor with a 2gal air tank. CO2 is great, but you never know when having an unlimited air supply will come in handy. 😀👍🏻
Doesn’t the CO2 lose pressure somewhat when it gets cold? I know NOS use bottle heaters to keep the pressure up after hard use.
I wouldn’t mind the portable one. I have a Renegade and that’ll work just perfectly fine!
Great video... I just got my arb twin put into my JT. It took 2 min 30 seconds per tire to fill from 13 to 25 psi on my 37’s... why did this take soo long... I was close to 9000 feet up in the mountains of Colorado. Cool to see that the compressors work faster at different elevations.
Cheesy intro was awesome. Lol. The portable compressor would be great in my wife's WK2 on 33's!
We are down to 3 or 4 for snow. So the time from low pressure is definitely important to me
Best product review vids around, keep em comin’ guys!! Also, put my name in the runnin’ for that portable one. I’m thinking about going the ARB route for sure
I run 35's on my TJ , 37's on the JLUR and 37's also on the JTR .. and we use the twin ARB .. kind of have the same fleet as you .. like the channel.. love the videos 👍
the bigger harbor freight portable compressor has impressed me since ive gotten it. i can air up all 4 of my 31s from 8 to 35 psi in under 20 minutes and i even aired a buddy up after working it so hard. it is a 30 amp air compressor tho you cant use the cig port you have to hook it to your battery.
Great comparison video. I just ordered a ARB high output single compressor can’t wait to try it out. Went with arb because gears and lockers are next
I run the dual ARB mounted under the hood on a Metalcloak bracket for the compressor and S-Pod with 35's.
True story. I have been using the Air Hawk (As seen on TV) with my 35s for the last 3 wheeling trips. I'm getting dual compressors from ARB going on next week because I'm getting 40s and tons and ARB lockers but it has worked ok. 15 minutes on each tire. It gets hot but no smoke so far : )
Another great option is the Offroad Only (ORO) York air system. Which runs off of your engine serpentine belt. I have this and it cranks out more CFMs than the ARBs.
FYI they make a relocation bracket for the York to keep your A/C intact.
A 15lb power tank costs me $42 to fill in S A California . And you didn’t mention the monster valves are going to cost you $250 - $300 for a set of 4 - 5 valves. Although I love my power tank. If I knew then what I know now. I would have went with the duel ARB compressor.
Good to know! I just went to 40s and was trying to figure out the best way to air these monsters up!
If you like off roading and/or have an ATV or UTV, I suggest looking at the "Viair 300P SxS". I just got mine and it's perfect for me.
My York compressor on my JL mounted to the harmonic balancer, without sacrificing anything, like A/C. Available from Off Road Only. I got the full air suspension from Steve, so it requires the longevity that an electric pump just can't keep up with.
Have a relatively stock TJ. Changing out the tires that came on the Jeep with a set of A/Ts that should be in on Monday. That compressor would be great to have in the Jeep while at college.
I liked the intro! Good touch to start the video. That power tank is impressive!
the Cheapo Portable air compressor is still really good on Bone Stock tires. 255/75R16 or such size for Light Truck / passenger car to help you get your Hauling truck out of the parking lot and to a gas station to get better air. I have a $30 Walmart bought compressor that i have used a number of times, to help friends and co-workers. Only takes a few minutes. There is no need to air up your tires in 1 minute or less, unless you are blocking a road, Your friends on the trail will understand.
Out on the trail maybe? But after 'Tyre Extinguishers' have hit, all 4 will be down to 0, so thanks for the video. 11 minutes seems a hell of a long time all the same!
Great stuff. Was just thinking about that for a summer trip. You saved me time. Going with a decent single or the tank. Thank you.
Count me in for the air compressor. Also awesome content! Keep up the good work Ben and Cassie!! 🤙
Just bought myself the larger Smittybilt portable compressor. Haven’t had the chance to use it yet because of obvious reasons lol but I’m on 35s plan to jump to 37s or 38s. I feel like it’ll perform well for the price. Dual ARB will happen one day. When my electric lockers are toast ad I go to air lockers most likely.
On my super duty truck, I have 3000 watt inverter which I power a compact dewalt low profile electric portable air compressor with a tank that takes 35 inch tires around 40 seconds. Many different options. All boils down to time, money, and where you want to burn your energy
I have a larger Viair that I use, but also bring along a cheapo unit as well as the one built into my jump box only for anyone with stockers that needs to air up, but didn’t bring a compressor. Good timing on this video as I have been looking to upgrade to a singe or dual ARB. Running 37’s and no issues with the Viair, but looking for some faster fill up options so I’m free to help some of the other members of the group.
Currently running 31's on my XJ without a airing up solution, have to stop at a local gas station to air up. Would love to be added to the drawing for the compressor! Thanks and keep the great vids coming!
Put my name in the hat. Great intro - little extra free time these days eh?
I wanna be entered. Another great video. You help us to learn how to install things and helps us to belt we can do it without taking it to a shop. Just like your wife's page, her welding gussets on her axles..etc, some channels are to concerned about sponsors more commercialized and having someone or shops do the installs. Thank you for helping us through installs. Keepem coming
Hi there, great subject. For the CO2 tank how often would you need to refill it if you’re airing up 40’s?
Don’t stop doing what you do for us. It’s great to see real people doing what we do. Cheers,
Ili
Even if you don’t air down, it saves you the trouble of buying air if you live in an apartment or dragging out a big compressor , needing air when it gets cold. I have a homemade short whip for every tire.
I don't see many people talking about using the pto on the side of their transmission to run an air pump that most rear wheel drives have
Great comparison. I haven't seen one with all three options yet.
VIAIR actually includes these statistics on their website for their compressors.
True - I think a lot of others don't publish specs because they aren't that good. While the ARB dual is good, it's twice the cost of the Viair dual and still puts out less volume.
Another important detail that was overlooked is any compressor puts out less volume as the pressure goes up. So if you're running an E rated tire at 50 psi on the road (like one of my rigs) you're going to need A LOT more compressor, even if it's a fairly small tire.
Glad to see you back in the Crocs
Your Jeeps all look so good. I noticed that a lot of Jeeps have to wait in line at AOAA trail park to add air to the tires on the exit parking lot. Having a portable air unit would be a good idea for my JKU Willys.
I built a DIY 10 lb Co2 system for about 200 bucks. I have it mounted on window molle panels and quick fist clamps in my XJ. I threw the tank in the back seat in the JK.
There's going to be a difference between front tire and rear tire due to weight distribution. Which brings up another point, besides tire size and specification, vehicle weight is a factor. Your tests apply to Jeep weighted vehicles, which I get it, it's a Jeep channel. I found out when I went to a 3/4 ton Burb from a TJ, the single ARB would overheat and shut off midway thru the 4th tire and those were 33" BFG KO2s. I would run them at 55lbs on that truck, so a lot more air up time and weight to contend with. I had a little trick. I poured water on the compressor to cool it, and I could restart it to finish. I'm in a 7,000 lb + Power Wagon now with 37" Toyos, still with the same single ARB. I haven't really tested it out yet. The Toyos have really stout sidewalls so I actually run lower than the Burb. I run 45 front and 35 rear. It will be interesting to see how the single ARB does with that. In the long run, I know the dual ARB is the right scale for the heavier trucks not only in duty cycle but also speed convenience. It's no fun cooking in the heat and humidity while your waiting for tires to fill up.
I bought a pair of portable heavy-duty dual-cylinder portable air compressors made by Tirewell off of Amazon. They have a duty rating of 10 minutes on, 15 minutes off. I actually bought only one initially, and found that it takes about 5 minutes to inflate a 31" tire from 15 psi to 35 psi. That meant I had to do two tires, and then let it rest for 15 minutes, and then do the other two tires. That meant that it took me almost 40 minutes to inflate my tires. So I bought a second one and I run them at the same time. I've had them for a few years and have probably aired up 10 times and they show no indication of having issues. My process takes about 10 minutes now, and the two compressors combined cost about 130 bucks.
I run the ARB single n my TJ and a 20# co2 tank in our JKUR all on 35s. I love my tank but I will say that ARB customer service is outstanding an very helpful. I was 3 years out of warranty, had a piston failure and call them asking for a rebuild kit. they said they would send me a new motor unit with the built in piston...Far and beyond customer service. Forever an ARB customer when buying lockers and such in the future.
My 20# tank is from a home brew store and re do tank exchange for $8 per tank. Got the regulator off Amazon and been ballin for 2 years...I can air up a 35 about 28 times from 12 to 32psi (about 7 or 8 wheeling trips) per 20# tank.
I have 37s on my Ram 1500. I was going to get a Viair 400p or 440 portable, but I managed to catch someone selling a 10lb PowerTank for a REALLY good price and I picked it up. Takes me less than 5 minutes to air up all tires from 20psi to about 35-37psi. Now I want a 20lb tank for less fill ups because room isn't an issue for me, but I have to find a place to refill the tank for a descent price.
I've had an ARB twin in my work truck since 2013ish that I use only on rare occasions. It's hard mounted, covered and close to a spare battery. It's not bad at moving air, but I've had it mechanically fail WAY too often for the $500+ it costs. Sheared /loose bolts between the motor eccentric/crank and the piston as well as a couple failed relays. I think a decent Viair might be a little slower, but would be more cost effective, more reliable, easier to diagnose and fix in the field if need be.
There are kits to run a York Compressor with your a/c, ORO makes them for TJ ‘s and JK’s . I had one on my 2009 Rubicon Unlimited with a/c.
I use a 20 lb tank that I exchange when empty with Airgas. I also have a 3/8" hose with high-flow fittings, so the biggest restriction would be the valve in the tire. Cost to exchange is $20.
I've found that there's a huge range of quality and capacity in portable units. I've been using a "150psi rated high-volume" portable for around two years with 33x11.50's- making sure to stay inside the recommended run-time and performing the recommended cylinder maintenance. It's max run time before needing a 5 minute rest is about 8 minutes; to go from the 10psi I run on the trail to the 28psi I run on the street is about 3.5 minutes per tire. Not light speed, but still getting it done in about 20 minutes on the cheap.
It's head needs to be removed for a couple drops of upper and lower cylinder oil about every 2 hours of use, or about 20 tires (which is really easy); and it definitely can't run tools. I'll tell you right now it can whoop the shit out of a half dozen pool floaties in no time flat, though!
Considering it's $65 price tag and the minor maintenance required, it's been an excellent option while my TJ build is pre locker, but I'm still airing up and down tires while saving up coin to build the onboard air/locker system.
If it gets me down the trail, I figure I can worry about style later : ).
I built a C02 set up for around $285. $100 for the tank, $50 for the regulator, $50 for a handle and around $85 for the Hose, gauge and tank mount.