Bought an Amazon AllTop about a year ago. 180 liters/min, 40% duty cycle @ 40 psi. Strong rubber hose (hate the yellow coiling plastic hoses). Fills 4 285/70 from 20 to 37 psi in ten minutes. Then assist whoever needs an assist. Hasn't stopped from overhating & the connection point gets warm, not hot. Noticeably heavier than my friends smittybilt. About $160
Good test. Napa sells the “same” dual compressor called maxi trac for $125. Worth checking out too. The ez flate does not include the quad harness or digital gauge for that price.
Yip; the Maxi Trac from Napa runs well; ordered at the store and picked up a few days later for $114. Cut the hose about 1.5ft from the compressor and you can easily attach a standard coupler using an ear-clamp ( don't use normal hose clamp ). From there, you can make your own 4-way inflate/deflate system for a little over $100 as well. I might add an onboard tank, but haven't needed one for simple trail use. As others have mentioned about the limit-flow per tire valve, your results will be improved by airing up 4 tires at a time ( rather than 1 at a time ). For what it's worth, my diy 4-way system uses standard 3/8 hose/fittings, and that may have a higher flow capacity than the fittings would for that 1/4" curly-queue hose. On the factory 33" Gladiator Mojave tires, at around 600ft elevation in cold weather, seems like I can take all 4 tires from 20psi to 37psi with the compressor running for 2min or less.
Great timing. I'm getting ready to buy a air compressor. Mainly because we have several vehicles and live in the country of Iowa. Always having tires go down.
Just preordered the EZ-flate bundle kit with compressor and 4way hose kit and used LiteBrite at checkout for $10 off. Cool!! Thanks LiteBrite Folks!!!👍🏻😎
I recently recorded a video about the morrflate Quad tire inflation system I'm also waiting for my pre order of the bew digital morrflate dual pump compression looks similar to the orange one that looks like the napa maxi inflator that is now napa branded and black instead of orange
What i find interesting is that in USA you can get comperssors with output simillar to ARB twin for less money than ARB single would cost while in europe i cant find anything reputable for less than about 300$. I installed ARB single myself and find it fast enough to air up my little 29" wheels
I have seen a bunch of people mod the orange compressor and put electric cut off switches on them so the compressor will turn off and on automatically when you cut the air with the guage it turns the compressor off
@@jeepsolo7218 actually you can use the factory setup , it slides right in place. But I went to regular hose clamps. It’s fine and I run 37’s from 2 psi to 30 every trip then fill others. It gets warm but not as hot either
I have the cheap Harbor Freight that I got for $39 with a coupon (when they did coupons). It airs up my 35's from 15 psi to 35 psi in 5 minutes each tire. Looks exactly like the Smittybilt, so can only assume they are built in the same Chinese plant. Definitely not as fast as others, but it does enough for my needs. If it breaks, I buy another and can go through several of them for the cost of one of the others. Had it 3 years now.
I have a Harbor Freight - the biggest trouble was when it quit. I was aired down from an obstacle, and prepping to hit a speed trail, it died on the second tire. Fortunately I had a backup, and even a warranty on the one that quit, but I wouldn’t wheel with only one.
Interesting to see. We don’t do a bunch of off roading and when we do it is light off roading. I have 18v Ryobi tools and was thinking about getting the 18v small air compressor for airing up. Plus you get a little more versatility because it is an air compressor with a small tank and could run some air tools if needed. Just my thoughts. Don’t know if anyone else has thought about it or considered it.
Unless you are already heavily invested in the 4ah batteries and NEED a compressor at home, your money would be better spent on any of the 3 cheaper ones in the video. Remember, the compressor doesn't come with the $150 battery, and it costs the same as these that are powered by your vehicle. On top of that, even the 4ah battery may not last long enough to refill all 4 tires, so you'd need 2 charged up for each time you air back up.
I have the pistol grip Ryobi, and it takes about 2 minutes to get 10 psi back into the tire. I have the 5ah batteries and don't loose a bar on the indicator. I haven't used it while offloading yet, but it's nice to have just in case. I use Ryobi tools as a handyman.
A York 210 converted to an air compressor run on the serpentine is pretty amazing. After running one I'll never go back to an electric pump. That system does take a little more effort to set up though.
Great Video LiteBrite. As I commonly adjust pressure for my F-350 tow rig, I would be interested to see how a comparison goes when used on your F-450. (Airing up above 60psi often overheats these portable compressors).
Wow! Thank you so much! I have been trying to figure out what type of compressor to get? I have air bags on my Tacoma plus also wanted to be able to lower and raise air on tires. I purchased and installed a SWITCH PROS (Thank you guys) and wanted to set it up to run a compressor. Was looking at the ARB stuff but having a hard time pulling the trigger for the price. This is great stuff. EZ Flate seems to be out of stock for the time being, but now I know what to buy.
That EZFlate and hose kit looks exactly like the Morrflate that's been around for several years. First time I've heard of EZFlate...wonder where they got the idea? :) As for the ARB, I've never been a huge fan given the price. However you should mention it's a constant duty unit where the others are not. So if you want to air up all your buddy's tires as well or run air tools or do something else that needs it to run a long time that is one advantage for the ARB. The other thing to keep in mind is compressor performance falls off as pressure increases. Most companies only give you the output at 0 psi. Viair is the only company I know who actually shows volume at different pressures.
Nice comparison video. Good information here. Also, IMHO it's time to give Chris some love and possibly start a series on him working on his personal rig. Would love to see him wheeling with Kevin and Brit in his Rover.
I used to be in this club called IOK Fourwheelers (Gravelramma). One of our members a gentleman named Runck who owned Runck bumpers would get 12v air compressors off of junked passenger buses and use part of the bumpers or roll cage for the air tank. Quick connect fitting on the front and back and a coiled air hose. It worked like a charm and was very fast.
Absolutely, on my channel I got 2 vids that show an on-board air yet portable setup that can run air tools. I show and describe the parts needed and used as well as principles of how to build a capable system.
Hello I wanted to find out where do you guys have your arb dual air compressor mounted in the stepchild and what bracket you guys are using. Thank you, Adrian V
Overland Pro sells the same compressor as that 2 piston portable compressor for $180. I then made a 2 tire hose setup using a larger inside diameter hose that did not restrict the compressor. Got that build off of Trail Recons channel. I can air up 2 x 37 inch tires from 10psi to 30psi in less than 2 mins.
NAPA Part #: BK MTWM10215C $115. It's called the "Maxi Trak" 300LPM AIR COMPRESSOR and it's the same one as the double one in orange that you have there.... it's cheaper, has a warranty, and does pretty good. Same, same as the Moab EZ air. Don't spend more than you need to.
Not all your info is correct. The NAPA website says, "Warranty: Standard : No Warranty, Expressed or Implied." This means it has no warranty. Current price is $123.99
I’ve been airing up my spare to 80psi everytime I go off-roading now. Than use four hose system and connect to spare. It airs up all four tires (aired down to 14psi) in a couple of minutes back up to about 30psi. Spare must be same volume as other tires for this to work. (Safety note if your spare is old and cracked don’t do this)
It’s not a hassle at all. When I fill spare exactly to the specified psi and then connect it to my tires it fills and stops exactly where I want it and I can go do something else and it only takes me one minute at home to fill it up. I do carry a cheap inflator with me but I never ever use it because of this system. The only problem with the 5 gallon thing is you have to bring a tank with you and it takes up space and it’s not mounted. The spare is always with you and it’s mounted.
@@joerouth6255 I was responding to MrMotofy's comment of getting a 5 gallon tank. A compressor is smaller, more versatile, and less of a hassle. Your way is a great idea if your spare is a 10-ply and you only want 27 psi in your tires. Past that, you may as well just hook up a compressor instead of the spare. $100 is all it takes to get a great compressor.
It would really improve your video if you had text somewhere with the names of the compressors, the prices, the CFM ratings, and so forth. It's difficult to dig that information out by listening then going back any trying to find where it was mentioned.
Absolutely agree... Always have the products testing or promoting, written by the name and either over the video or in the video description. Seller's site link is also appreciated by the video watchers...
There is a limit on the valves so that’s why two took the same time. It creates back pressure. The best setup is two or four tires at once for a 11 cfm pump. It will hit the thermal limit faster with higher back pressure.
I have the Napa compressor which works amazingly, however the air fittings are fiddly & the air gauge is on the compressor. I typically just time it at about 1:30 to go from 10-12lbs to road pressure. I have 33x10.50x15. Napa will not know what you are talking about but you can order it & pick up in store
I use my Milwaukee M12 Inflator. I used it the other day to air up a guy's flat Super Swamper 50" to 10 psi no problem. Took about 20 minutes (for the sheer volume of air needed). It goes up to about 120 psi.
To be apples to apples, the "portable" ARB dual compressor is more comparable to what you were testing and it is a $1,000.00. I just bought one, it is awesome quality and works great, but extremely expensive. Great stuff and congrats on King of the Hammer!
Only needing to air down 4 or 5 times a year instead of 4 or5 times a week, I bought a Viair 440 four years ago. It gets hot, but has never missed a beat. I like having a portable compressor in case other cars or rigs need air. Beck, you ought to supervise the boys more closely! Fun and play in the cold. LiteBriteNationCompressesTime!
Same here. I got the Viair 88p. I store it in a metal ammo can, so even if it's hot I can toss it in there. I've stopped and helped a few people with flats. It's a lot faster to plug and pump the tire back up instead of changing a tire with one of those stupid little doughnuts. The gauge died on me, but the pump still runs great.
An idea what the duty cycle on the Ez-Flate Moab compressor is? But for the price once they are available again I might pick one up for my other vehicles. Already have the dual ARB on my Jeep.
As a free E3 member I use to have access to the calendar of upcoming events but it isn't there anymore. Is that a glitch or am I doing something wrong?
The orange one is also sold by Napa under the name "Maxi Trac" for just over $100 and it definitely puts out more CFM than the ARB twin. Both will hit the limit of flow of a tire valve, that's why they came up nearly tied. I replaced my ARB twin with the Maxi Track and installed it under the Jeep's back seat along with a 4 way hose setup, it'll take my 40s from 10 PSI to 25 PSI in only 5 minutes. Upsides of the ARB: Warrantee, the Maxi has none. A pressure shutoff switch, not on the Maxi. I think the ARB will hit 150PSI, the Maxi maxes out around 125PSI. Cooling fan, the Maxi doesn't have one. The ARB is prettier and gives you street cred. With my AAA discount the Maxi was $115 to my door step, the used ARB will probably sell for triple that.
Good info 👍🏼 however, there are tire valves that can drop and allow faster inflation than a standard valve. I use the Apex Designs valves and love how quickly they allow the air from my CO2 tank to fill them.
Since Chris is talented enough to do just about anything. May I suggest simply buying a air compressor that you would see on a job site like a Dewalt or porter cable and having Chris pipe the air storage into the bumper or frame rail. Many job site air compresses have a CFM of 12 or more and have a very high recovery rate. It would be a fair amount of labor involved in my idea but having a large storage compartment for the air would reduce your Trailside downtime.
The problem is powering the compressor. A regular jobsite electric is only gonna be like 5cfm at best and need a good solid 15 or 20a 120v circuit. The compressor will draw 13-14A running which is a lot of power,, but there's a huge surge at start up. A 13cfm unit is gonna be like the 60gallon units sold in stores and runs on 240v. The gas motor portable units are like 8cfm for the ones I've looked at. The single cylinder portable units here are gonna draw like 45A at 12v which is some serious power. I have an on-board air setup with a 2gal tank that's still portable in a couple vids on my channel.
I have had the orange one which I bought at napa in iowa and it was only 130.00 I think it's a Chinese compressor that wears many different brands in the USA. It been a good unit for over a year now. 35 in tires go from 10psi to 25 in under 2 min
that seems slow compared to what everyone else is saying about the napa they own. an m18 inflator by milwaukee took my regular charger sedan from 22 to 33 in under a minute
@@adamhowe8499 right but in your case you're still only adding 15psi. i'm assuming it should take under a minute. the M18 inflator from milwaukee that the guy used on my charger sedan has less power than your napa compressor. so your compressor should've added what amounts to roughly the same psi ~11 vs ~15 in about the same time or less. it could've added that 15psi in under a minute and you just miscounted the time.
So I like what you showed here. When I was looking into this the portable setups made no sense, if you add 1-2 gallons of air storage, and cycle the valve open/close to fill the tank then fill the tires, you can fill a tire in like half this time.
I'm seen some pumps fail when internal cast zinc parts broke. Or when the teflon piston seals melted after being used on 4 tires without a break. Hard to tell quality from the outside.
A have the Viair 400 and am really with it for a portable compressor. Looked into buying this for the price, but found the quad hoses and gauge are another $150!?!
Like others have stated, NAPA is the way to go, paid $89.00 for mine. There are a few mods on youtube that can be done. I added an internal air pressure cut off switch, set it up to take standard fittings and modified the mounting brackets so it can lay flat. I'm in the process of brainstorming a way to mount it under the hood of my FJC.
I am very surprised you do not carry a C02 tank for quick fills. While it does take up a little bit of space, the 30 seconds to fill a 35 inch tire is so worth it.
I have 3... and its the ONLY way i roll. The shit compressors take space also, and are all shit. No volume, little pressure. Imma a tank guy all day, every day. A 10lb small tank would shit up and down on both those units. Edit- i know many that run their air lockers off them also, and theyll run any air tool you need. Super slick
@@96kylar While more and more people are getting electric impacts, they are still expensive. We all have a 1/2 inch air impact kicking around and C02 will run one great. I think a tank is the only way to go. Multiple uses. I like the 20lb tank myself. And if you own the tank its only like 22 bucks at Napa for a refill/swap. And if your not sharing with everyone, a 20lb tank lasts a while.
12V compressors never last more than a few months with me, this incudes the ARB twin set up, probably the 50° C ambient temperatures we hit in the summer. I liked the hose arrangement for inflating all the tires at the same time, I think I will copy that.
Someone in the comments on this vid said they like to inflate their spare before going out, to 80 psi/551.6 kPa which allows them to reinflate all their other tires to around 40 psi/275.8 kPa without using any compressors in the field. Perhaps something like that might help you get more life out of a compressor, as normalizing pressure via the spare would not use any energy and would not be effected by the heat. So you could use the actual compressor only in an emergency and save it for said emergencies before you burn out the damnable thing.
I’ve used a Warn Powerplant since ‘09. It’s noisy and slow but the good thing is it’s heavy & ugly and a crap winch, too. It won’t die so I don’t get rid of it.
I have a VIVAR system - portable comes in a kit and with a bag. ($300 and change) Honestly - did not know what the limit to mine was until I watched this. Mine will inflate a 33 inch tire (285 in metric)( I had to look this up). I was doing research on Amazon - VIVAR makes a series of these compressors - they have one for $439 that is 24 volts - I cannot figure out why it is 24 volts when most systems are 12 volts. Also- please remind people that most of these compressors have to be used with the engine running!
I used to have a Sun Performance Quick Air 2 back in the day. My QA2 was rated at 2.19 CFM @0 psi. It was so slow. CFM tapers off fast as psi increases. Took several minutes to just fill up a 29" tire and that was with a 2.5 Gallon tank. Took a crash course in CFM and PSI. These days I run an OG Kilby Onboard Air kit with a York 210. At idle (750rpm), it's about as fast as the ARB Twin (Rated for 6.16@0psi (4.68@29psi)). Bump the idle up and it will leave the ARB behind. I've heard the 210 is 6 CFM @ 90 PSI @1200 RPM (with a max speed of 6000 RPM). The Smittybilt's only rated at 5.65@0psi with no load pressure rating. All of the import stuff seem to just list their no-load numbers since they look better.
The duty cycles of the Moab one vs the twi ARB will make or break this comparison. I have used my twin air to pump multiple cars' tires without noticeable drop in output. Can the moab match it? Also, power. You go to 30psi, but for long hwy drives you want proper spec. 35 to 40psi. How much does the output diminish with the higher energy required to pump to 40psi? Important tests to be totally scientific :)
No not arbitrarily. Lol. Basically always use the sweet medium between tire and car manufacturer recommendation. But my point was, the ARB will most likely give you the consistent flow rate even if you help your other buddies pump up. The smaller motors will start to drop performance. That could be part two of this test :D .
@@gm7542 without knowing tire size and weight of your vehicle, that number is meaningless. My knee jerk reaction is that's way too high. Do a chalk test.
no Viair ? huh. I've been hauling a Viair 88P small portable for my pickup truck and other vehicle tires, but I'm not a wheeler other than just an occasional easy offroad adventure on my stock trucks (formerly a Tacoma, now an older F250 diesel, both 4x4). anyways, that pump has always done its thing for me. sure, if I had 40's, I'd be using a larger Viair. Its tough comparing CFM numbers unless they specified what PSI that CFM is at.
Bought an Amazon AllTop about a year ago.
180 liters/min, 40% duty cycle @ 40 psi.
Strong rubber hose (hate the yellow coiling plastic hoses).
Fills 4 285/70 from 20 to 37 psi in ten minutes. Then assist whoever needs an assist.
Hasn't stopped from overhating & the connection point gets warm, not hot.
Noticeably heavier than my friends smittybilt.
About $160
How you like the Nitto trail grappler I been looking at them for a couple of my rigs?
Good test. Napa sells the “same” dual compressor called maxi trac for $125. Worth checking out too. The ez flate does not include the quad harness or digital gauge for that price.
I would also recommend taking out the internal schrader components out of the compressor hose.
And it will burn up after the 4th use
And for those who have AAA, there is a discount code if you put in your info. I bought 2 and got $20 off per.
Used my Napa one several times with no issues. Hasn’t burned up after “4 times”. Got it on sale for $100
I’ve been running the napa one for several months, 2-3 times a week. So far so good and got it on a deal for around $80. Should have bought a spare…
what is the duty cycle of all these compressors, its kind of important info when testing things like this
The MOAB one is just like the maxi trac from Napa and the duty cycle is 50% which is equal to 1 hour of continuous run time
Yip; the Maxi Trac from Napa runs well; ordered at the store and picked up a few days later for $114. Cut the hose about 1.5ft from the compressor and you can easily attach a standard coupler using an ear-clamp ( don't use normal hose clamp ). From there, you can make your own 4-way inflate/deflate system for a little over $100 as well. I might add an onboard tank, but haven't needed one for simple trail use. As others have mentioned about the limit-flow per tire valve, your results will be improved by airing up 4 tires at a time ( rather than 1 at a time ). For what it's worth, my diy 4-way system uses standard 3/8 hose/fittings, and that may have a higher flow capacity than the fittings would for that 1/4" curly-queue hose. On the factory 33" Gladiator Mojave tires, at around 600ft elevation in cold weather, seems like I can take all 4 tires from 20psi to 37psi with the compressor running for 2min or less.
Great timing. I'm getting ready to buy a air compressor. Mainly because we have several vehicles and live in the country of Iowa. Always having tires go down.
Just preordered the EZ-flate bundle kit with compressor and 4way hose kit and used LiteBrite at checkout for $10 off. Cool!! Thanks LiteBrite Folks!!!👍🏻😎
I recently recorded a video about the morrflate Quad tire inflation system I'm also waiting for my pre order of the bew digital morrflate dual pump compression looks similar to the orange one that looks like the napa maxi inflator that is now napa branded and black instead of orange
I absolutely love my EZ Flate MOAB. I do hope the quality is there long term but airing up in ~10m is awesome!
LiteBrite Kevin doing science on a Sunday morning… can my day get any better? #JellyNation
What i find interesting is that in USA you can get comperssors with output simillar to ARB twin for less money than ARB single would cost while in europe i cant find anything reputable for less than about 300$. I installed ARB single myself and find it fast enough to air up my little 29" wheels
I have seen a bunch of people mod the orange compressor and put electric cut off switches on them so the compressor will turn off and on automatically when you cut the air with the guage it turns the compressor off
The good thing about the dual arb it's 100 percent duty cycle so it works with tools well the carry compressors don't have a 100 percent duty cycle
The tough stuff looks like a Version of the Maxi That napa used to sell
They had a booth at the Winter Jam. I should have bought one then! I heard they did sell out of what they brought that weekend.
I Replaced my smittybuilt hose setup with 5/16 transmission cooler line and got rid of all the restrictions in it and it got a lot faster
Great tip. I’m going to take a look at mine. Maybe just use a radiator clamp and connect an air hose directly to the pump.
Have been considering the same thing. Should stop the restricted air flow and keep it a bit cooler and air up faster!
@@jeepsolo7218 actually you can use the factory setup , it slides right in place. But I went to regular hose clamps. It’s fine and I run 37’s from 2 psi to 30 every trip then fill others. It gets warm but not as hot either
There are several YT videos out showing how to improve the usability and performance of the Smittybilt.
I have the cheap Harbor Freight that I got for $39 with a coupon (when they did coupons). It airs up my 35's from 15 psi to 35 psi in 5 minutes each tire. Looks exactly like the Smittybilt, so can only assume they are built in the same Chinese plant. Definitely not as fast as others, but it does enough for my needs. If it breaks, I buy another and can go through several of them for the cost of one of the others. Had it 3 years now.
I have a Harbor Freight - the biggest trouble was when it quit. I was aired down from an obstacle, and prepping to hit a speed trail, it died on the second tire. Fortunately I had a backup, and even a warranty on the one that quit, but I wouldn’t wheel with only one.
After the intro, I counted 8 seconds before the "that's what she said moment". That is faster than Conner McGregor's knockout of Jose Aldo. Congrats!
Recommend measuring the pump temperature. Heat dissipation is huge for pumps.
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Interesting to see. We don’t do a bunch of off roading and when we do it is light off roading. I have 18v Ryobi tools and was thinking about getting the 18v small air compressor for airing up. Plus you get a little more versatility because it is an air compressor with a small tank and could run some air tools if needed. Just my thoughts. Don’t know if anyone else has thought about it or considered it.
Unless you are already heavily invested in the 4ah batteries and NEED a compressor at home, your money would be better spent on any of the 3 cheaper ones in the video. Remember, the compressor doesn't come with the $150 battery, and it costs the same as these that are powered by your vehicle. On top of that, even the 4ah battery may not last long enough to refill all 4 tires, so you'd need 2 charged up for each time you air back up.
I have the pistol grip Ryobi, and it takes about 2 minutes to get 10 psi back into the tire. I have the 5ah batteries and don't loose a bar on the indicator. I haven't used it while offloading yet, but it's nice to have just in case. I use Ryobi tools as a handyman.
A York 210 converted to an air compressor run on the serpentine is pretty amazing. After running one I'll never go back to an electric pump. That system does take a little more effort to set up though.
I ran one in a Kilby brand kit on my old YJ and it was peerless.
I still like my Power Tank. Although, I do have to keep track of my air cosumption and refill it.
Great Video LiteBrite. As I commonly adjust pressure for my F-350 tow rig, I would be interested to see how a comparison goes when used on your F-450. (Airing up above 60psi often overheats these portable compressors).
Great video...purchased that EZ Flate model after watching..thanks!
You can get the moab air compressor cheaper through Napa exactly the same compressor
Wow! Thank you so much! I have been trying to figure out what type of compressor to get? I have air bags on my Tacoma plus also wanted to be able to lower and raise air on tires. I purchased and installed a SWITCH PROS (Thank you guys) and wanted to set it up to run a compressor. Was looking at the ARB stuff but having a hard time pulling the trigger for the price. This is great stuff. EZ Flate seems to be out of stock for the time being, but now I know what to buy.
That EZFlate and hose kit looks exactly like the Morrflate that's been around for several years. First time I've heard of EZFlate...wonder where they got the idea? :) As for the ARB, I've never been a huge fan given the price. However you should mention it's a constant duty unit where the others are not. So if you want to air up all your buddy's tires as well or run air tools or do something else that needs it to run a long time that is one advantage for the ARB. The other thing to keep in mind is compressor performance falls off as pressure increases. Most companies only give you the output at 0 psi. Viair is the only company I know who actually shows volume at different pressures.
Nice comparison video. Good information here.
Also, IMHO it's time to give Chris some love and possibly start a series on him working on his personal rig. Would love to see him wheeling with Kevin and Brit in his Rover.
Duty cycle is something to look at too, so you don't burn up the compressor. ARB is rated at continuous Duty. I don't know about the others.
Hello hope all is well. I wanted to know where is the arb twin compressor mounted inside the stepchild?
I used to be in this club called IOK Fourwheelers (Gravelramma). One of our members a gentleman named Runck who owned Runck bumpers would get 12v air compressors off of junked passenger buses and use part of the bumpers or roll cage for the air tank. Quick connect fitting on the front and back and a coiled air hose. It worked like a charm and was very fast.
One more day until the special vid
Britt, possible to put inks to the air compressor used in this ? Thanks
Absolutely, on my channel I got 2 vids that show an on-board air yet portable setup that can run air tools. I show and describe the parts needed and used as well as principles of how to build a capable system.
You guys are a hoot when you guys do a video, the ladies must just shake there heads all the time when you are in the same place !!!
Best air compressor I've ever seen was a converted AC pump running off the truck engine
Hello I wanted to find out where do you guys have your arb dual air compressor mounted in the stepchild and what bracket you guys are using.
Thank you,
Adrian V
Overland Pro sells the same compressor as that 2 piston portable compressor for $180. I then made a 2 tire hose setup using a larger inside diameter hose that did not restrict the compressor. Got that build off of Trail Recons channel. I can air up 2 x 37 inch tires from 10psi to 30psi in less than 2 mins.
I have a twin maxi and pumping up to 40 psi pops the compressor after a short time of use.
NAPA Part #: BK MTWM10215C $115. It's called the "Maxi Trak" 300LPM AIR COMPRESSOR and it's the same one as the double one in orange that you have there.... it's cheaper, has a warranty, and does pretty good. Same, same as the Moab EZ air. Don't spend more than you need to.
Not all your info is correct. The NAPA website says, "Warranty: Standard : No Warranty, Expressed or Implied." This means it has no warranty. Current price is $123.99
@@jonwardell2894 click on the document and will see the warranty. 30 days
Love to see how a Yorx210 belt drive compares. But my biggest tires are 37's... Maybe if I run into you all at EJS or Bronco Safari, we can check it.
A power tank as well
I’ve been airing up my spare to 80psi everytime I go off-roading now. Than use four hose system and connect to spare. It airs up all four tires (aired down to 14psi) in a couple of minutes back up to about 30psi. Spare must be same volume as other tires for this to work. (Safety note if your spare is old and cracked don’t do this)
Not a bad idea. Could save some wear on you compressor. If you need more than 27psi from there you can just hook up the compressor.
Could also mount an Ebay 5gal tank somewhere and fill it at home
@@mrmotofy Or just spend $100 and save the hassle of all of this 😂
It’s not a hassle at all. When I fill spare exactly to the specified psi and then connect it to my tires it fills and stops exactly where I want it and I can go do something else and it only takes me one minute at home to fill it up. I do carry a cheap inflator with me but I never ever use it because of this system. The only problem with the 5 gallon thing is you have to bring a tank with you and it takes up space and it’s not mounted. The spare is always with you and it’s mounted.
@@joerouth6255 I was responding to MrMotofy's comment of getting a 5 gallon tank. A compressor is smaller, more versatile, and less of a hassle.
Your way is a great idea if your spare is a 10-ply and you only want 27 psi in your tires. Past that, you may as well just hook up a compressor instead of the spare. $100 is all it takes to get a great compressor.
It would really improve your video if you had text somewhere with the names of the compressors, the prices, the CFM ratings, and so forth. It's difficult to dig that information out by listening then going back any trying to find where it was mentioned.
Absolutely agree... Always have the products testing or promoting, written by the name and either over the video or in the video description. Seller's site link is also appreciated by the video watchers...
There is a limit on the valves so that’s why two took the same time. It creates back pressure. The best setup is two or four tires at once for a 11 cfm pump. It will hit the thermal limit faster with higher back pressure.
The big test is time. When your in the middle of nowhere 5 years from now which one is there for you.Like a true friend when you really need them.
I just got the smaller arb, forget the name with the ezflate setup for my 92 gwagen and it works well.
I have the Napa compressor which works amazingly, however the air fittings are fiddly & the air gauge is on the compressor. I typically just time it at about 1:30 to go from 10-12lbs to road pressure. I have 33x10.50x15. Napa will not know what you are talking about but you can order it & pick up in store
I use my Milwaukee M12 Inflator. I used it the other day to air up a guy's flat Super Swamper 50" to 10 psi no problem. Took about 20 minutes (for the sheer volume of air needed). It goes up to about 120 psi.
What's the difference between Ez Flate Moab vs. Napa 300LPM air compressor?
Look to be same other than price and Moab logo?
how hot do they get.. can you still pick them up after use??
To be apples to apples, the "portable" ARB dual compressor is more comparable to what you were testing and it is a $1,000.00. I just bought one, it is awesome quality and works great, but extremely expensive. Great stuff and congrats on King of the Hammer!
Just got a Napa version pick up on the 3rd of March, it's replacing my Smittybilt!
Only needing to air down 4 or 5 times a year instead of 4 or5 times a week, I bought a Viair 440 four years ago. It gets hot, but has never missed a beat. I like having a portable compressor in case other cars or rigs need air. Beck, you ought to supervise the boys more closely! Fun and play in the cold. LiteBriteNationCompressesTime!
Same here. I got the Viair 88p. I store it in a metal ammo can, so even if it's hot I can toss it in there. I've stopped and helped a few people with flats. It's a lot faster to plug and pump the tire back up instead of changing a tire with one of those stupid little doughnuts. The gauge died on me, but the pump still runs great.
What about the duty cycle? When they get hot and shut down it takes a very long time for it to operate again.
Get a 120mm or larger computer fan and mount it on there.
You guys are better than info commercials
Interesting comparison. I tried to order the MOAB unit only to find it's sold out for several months.
The MOAB is the exact same as the $114 Maxi Trac at Napa. Go there.
@@jadorawlins yes, NAPA out of stock also.
Napa is out of stock any other options on the Napa compressor
An idea what the duty cycle on the Ez-Flate Moab compressor is? But for the price once they are available again I might pick one up for my other vehicles. Already have the dual ARB on my Jeep.
As a free E3 member I use to have access to the calendar of upcoming events but it isn't there anymore. Is that a glitch or am I doing something wrong?
Do you have to remove the valve cores to air down or was that simply for doing it faster for the video?
No, but it will take FOREVER if you don't.
It makes it MUCH faster, guessing around 10x the speed.
Hey that's cool yall are coming to merus. I live 30 min from there.
What is the name of the silver one?
The orange one is also sold by Napa under the name "Maxi Trac" for just over $100 and it definitely puts out more CFM than the ARB twin. Both will hit the limit of flow of a tire valve, that's why they came up nearly tied. I replaced my ARB twin with the Maxi Track and installed it under the Jeep's back seat along with a 4 way hose setup, it'll take my 40s from 10 PSI to 25 PSI in only 5 minutes.
Upsides of the ARB: Warrantee, the Maxi has none. A pressure shutoff switch, not on the Maxi. I think the ARB will hit 150PSI, the Maxi maxes out around 125PSI. Cooling fan, the Maxi doesn't have one. The ARB is prettier and gives you street cred.
With my AAA discount the Maxi was $115 to my door step, the used ARB will probably sell for triple that.
Good info 👍🏼 however, there are tire valves that can drop and allow faster inflation than a standard valve. I use the Apex Designs valves and love how quickly they allow the air from my CO2 tank to fill them.
What is the AAA code?
@@mrmotofy AAA auto club membership number.
@@DonziGT230 Ah so if I just put the number in as the promo code it should work?
@@mrmotofy I'm pretty sure there was a different spot for using your AAA number.
Since Chris is talented enough to do just about anything. May I suggest simply buying a air compressor that you would see on a job site like a Dewalt or porter cable and having Chris pipe the air storage into the bumper or frame rail. Many job site air compresses have a CFM of 12 or more and have a very high recovery rate. It would be a fair amount of labor involved in my idea but having a large storage compartment for the air would reduce your Trailside downtime.
The problem is powering the compressor. A regular jobsite electric is only gonna be like 5cfm at best and need a good solid 15 or 20a 120v circuit. The compressor will draw 13-14A running which is a lot of power,, but there's a huge surge at start up.
A 13cfm unit is gonna be like the 60gallon units sold in stores and runs on 240v.
The gas motor portable units are like 8cfm for the ones I've looked at.
The single cylinder portable units here are gonna draw like 45A at 12v which is some serious power. I have an on-board air setup with a 2gal tank that's still portable in a couple vids on my channel.
Maxi track from Napa is the same thing as your e z air I believe they look identical for $127
Agree I have that one did my bronco 35 in about 2 min
I waited for the 20% discount and got it for $90.
Sign up for Napa email and you get a additional discount
What is that Colour Called of the Yellow Jeep please ?? ie what do Jeep call that Yellow ???
looks like a fun goof off video! thanks for sharing thew info : )
Would be nice to see u guys compare the portable and the ARB compressors against a AC pump converted into a air pump
I have had the orange one which I bought at napa in iowa and it was only 130.00 I think it's a Chinese compressor that wears many different brands in the USA. It been a good unit for over a year now. 35 in tires go from 10psi to 25 in under 2 min
that seems slow compared to what everyone else is saying about the napa they own. an m18 inflator by milwaukee took my regular charger sedan from 22 to 33 in under a minute
@@fallback8314 to your tire has so much less air volume
@@adamhowe8499 right but in your case you're still only adding 15psi. i'm assuming it should take under a minute. the M18 inflator from milwaukee that the guy used on my charger sedan has less power than your napa compressor. so your compressor should've added what amounts to roughly the same psi ~11 vs ~15 in about the same time or less. it could've added that 15psi in under a minute and you just miscounted the time.
@fall back it's all about the volume probly 3x
@@adamhowe8499 oh ok
I’ve been running 2 pep boys sunammi pumps pushing into a couple gallons tank on my F250 and it’s been fine
Merus is freaking awesome we actually are planning a trip the weekend prior.
Duty cycle is the important factor when buying a compressor
That’s definitely one of the biggest flaws of cheap compressors.
Anyone know what that front bumper is on the red wrangler?
In the very early days of on-board air creative people would use converted ac compressors, or find the smaller units such as service trucks carried
I’m thinking of getting the new m18 Milwaukee tire inflator. Wonder how it stacks up. $169 and I already carry the batteries
So I like what you showed here. When I was looking into this the portable setups made no sense, if you add 1-2 gallons of air storage, and cycle the valve open/close to fill the tank then fill the tires, you can fill a tire in like half this time.
I'm seen some pumps fail when internal cast zinc parts broke. Or when the teflon piston seals melted after being used on 4 tires without a break. Hard to tell quality from the outside.
I bought the NAPA version of this . They often have $20 off. I did the pressure switch mod on UA-cam. Thing works great.
liked this video too, can't wait for the race video march 2nd!
I want to know the build specs on that LJ.
i set the compressor up on the winch in front of the grill to have airflow through the compressor. it keeps it from getting so damn hot.
A have the Viair 400 and am really with it for a portable compressor. Looked into buying this for the price, but found the quad hoses and gauge are another $150!?!
Like others have stated, NAPA is the way to go, paid $89.00 for mine. There are a few mods on youtube that can be done. I added an internal air pressure cut off switch, set it up to take standard fittings and modified the mounting brackets so it can lay flat. I'm in the process of brainstorming a way to mount it under the hood of my FJC.
I don't think I'd ever mount under the hood for fear of over heating it
@@briangulick2141 If I am airing up, my hood is open, no worry about overheating, and it does have a thermal overload protection
I am very surprised you do not carry a C02 tank for quick fills. While it does take up a little bit of space, the 30 seconds to fill a 35 inch tire is so worth it.
I have 3... and its the ONLY way i roll. The shit compressors take space also, and are all shit. No volume, little pressure. Imma a tank guy all day, every day. A 10lb small tank would shit up and down on both those units.
Edit- i know many that run their air lockers off them also, and theyll run any air tool you need. Super slick
@@96kylar While more and more people are getting electric impacts, they are still expensive. We all have a 1/2 inch air impact kicking around and C02 will run one great. I think a tank is the only way to go. Multiple uses. I like the 20lb tank myself. And if you own the tank its only like 22 bucks at Napa for a refill/swap. And if your not sharing with everyone, a 20lb tank lasts a while.
12V compressors never last more than a few months with me, this incudes the ARB twin set up, probably the 50° C ambient temperatures we hit in the summer. I liked the hose arrangement for inflating all the tires at the same time, I think I will copy that.
Someone in the comments on this vid said they like to inflate their spare before going out, to 80 psi/551.6 kPa which allows them to reinflate all their other tires to around 40 psi/275.8 kPa without using any compressors in the field. Perhaps something like that might help you get more life out of a compressor, as normalizing pressure via the spare would not use any energy and would not be effected by the heat. So you could use the actual compressor only in an emergency and save it for said emergencies before you burn out the damnable thing.
You can run any of those compressors with air lockers with an air manifold and the solenoid supplied with the locker
I want that hose setup.
ill be hopefully going to as many as many of the trail rides!!!
I’ve used a Warn Powerplant since ‘09. It’s noisy and slow but the good thing is it’s heavy & ugly and a crap winch, too. It won’t die so I don’t get rid of it.
I love these videos!!! Thanks guys, I hope you have a great week!!!!♥️♥️💯🤙
I have a VIVAR system - portable comes in a kit and with a bag. ($300 and change) Honestly - did not know what the limit to mine was until I watched this. Mine will inflate a 33 inch tire (285 in metric)( I had to look this up). I was doing research on Amazon - VIVAR makes a series of these compressors - they have one for $439 that is 24 volts - I cannot figure out why it is 24 volts when most systems are 12 volts. Also- please remind people that most of these compressors have to be used with the engine running!
I used to have a Sun Performance Quick Air 2 back in the day. My QA2 was rated at 2.19 CFM @0 psi. It was so slow. CFM tapers off fast as psi increases. Took several minutes to just fill up a 29" tire and that was with a 2.5 Gallon tank. Took a crash course in CFM and PSI. These days I run an OG Kilby Onboard Air kit with a York 210. At idle (750rpm), it's about as fast as the ARB Twin (Rated for 6.16@0psi (4.68@29psi)). Bump the idle up and it will leave the ARB behind. I've heard the 210 is 6 CFM @ 90 PSI @1200 RPM (with a max speed of 6000 RPM). The Smittybilt's only rated at 5.65@0psi with no load pressure rating. All of the import stuff seem to just list their no-load numbers since they look better.
Very informative..but your 38’s is not good for the smittybilt 5.6cfm because the smittybilt is only good for 35s - 37s.
I've heard good things about the Napa dual compressor.
Hey Kev a while back you talked about a engine jump starter from Costco I think, my question is "what was the brand of the jump starter?"
Haha I’m rockin the $60 kobalt from lowes! It works not good but it works.
Nice testing guys
So much for getting sponsored from ARB.
The duty cycles of the Moab one vs the twi ARB will make or break this comparison. I have used my twin air to pump multiple cars' tires without noticeable drop in output. Can the moab match it? Also, power. You go to 30psi, but for long hwy drives you want proper spec. 35 to 40psi. How much does the output diminish with the higher energy required to pump to 40psi? Important tests to be totally scientific :)
You do not want to go to 40. Ever.
That depends on your tires and load rating. I hope you aren’t just arbitrarily putting 40psi in any tire
No not arbitrarily. Lol. Basically always use the sweet medium between tire and car manufacturer recommendation. But my point was, the ARB will most likely give you the consistent flow rate even if you help your other buddies pump up. The smaller motors will start to drop performance. That could be part two of this test :D .
I run the KM3s, max pressure rating is 45psi. I comfortably run 38 on hwy.
@@gm7542 without knowing tire size and weight of your vehicle, that number is meaningless. My knee jerk reaction is that's way too high. Do a chalk test.
no Viair ? huh. I've been hauling a Viair 88P small portable for my pickup truck and other vehicle tires, but I'm not a wheeler other than just an occasional easy offroad adventure on my stock trucks (formerly a Tacoma, now an older F250 diesel, both 4x4). anyways, that pump has always done its thing for me. sure, if I had 40's, I'd be using a larger Viair.
Its tough comparing CFM numbers unless they specified what PSI that CFM is at.
Love the intro!!!❤️❤️