Terminator cobras deserve to have a Terminator engine. The coyote is cool and a “better” engine with bigger displacement, better cylinder heads and better overall technology but the 03/04 cobra engine is unique a deserves to be in an original car.
@@tomkjr1 Yeah I agree the modular 4.6 does sound better than a coyote, although my Mach 1 sounds incredible stock with the active exhaust. I agree coyotes don’t sound too great specially with headers.
If I blew the motor in my Cobra I'd probably build a Teksid block to replace it. I think a Coyote swap would make the most sense but me personally I'd never want to swap one into a Terminator.
@@JordanSVT it just seems wrong, I can’t place my finger on it but gives me un easy feelings. Teksid is an excellent option although that 5.3 modular stroker is really tempting
I was lucky in my case. My engine builder sold me a spare uncut iron block for $500. Thanks for mentioning my engine incident. I hope it will inspire other owners to be more aware of the danger. Great video Travis!
@@Lethal_Venom I'm still working on the break in! It is harder putting 500 miles on the car than I anticipated, lol. I've spent time fixing up the engine bay and the cosmetic damage done by the engine shop. Getting there bit by bit.
I had a teksid block sitting side by side to a nemak. Visually, I’d take the nemak over a teksid or wap. It’s the same block that was sold as the aluminator. Mine came out of a 05 aviator.
@@jbp1981 I’ve read up a lot on both blocks and you read advantages of one over the other depending on were you look and who you ask. I think both are a great option and viable for any street driven Terminator. I’d honestly take either one but mostly for weight savings over the iron blocks
@@3500camarz That I’m not 100% sure. I’ve heard of people using the Aviator and 05 blocks. Depends on the stock bore size. I do know that you can just drop the Terminator rotating assembly into a Teksid / WAP block
I have a Teksid block but it’s been repaired. A machine shop could probably fix it. It was run the way it is but there is a gap by the timing cover. We should all be finding Lincoln mark 8’s that came with the 4V Teksid and should be collecting those engines.
I have been there. My car burned up two cylinders and needed a full rebuild. Thankfully i was able to reuse my block. However it snowballed fast. Now i have 9 thread heads coustom cams ect and the rear end got the ftbr treatment. That being said man am i glad i went that route. I couldn't do a 5.0 swap on these cars either
I agree as for keeping the Terminator Cobra true to its bones, as a purist i would have to stick with the original 4.6, its what made this car so popular. However as the limitations approach if there was no availability then i would definately do a Coyote swap really cant go wrong with it. Still a badass Ford power plant, and way better option then an LS swap. Unless your just worried about being the fastest on a budget.
I'd say move closer to the Cobra guys/shops... Always nice to have a shop you know has your back... Anything can be rebuilt. The memories are forever. ❤🐍
My original 2003 cobra has 90k miles running good but needs valve seals my 2004 cobra that I picked up before the price went up only had 27k and the motor starting run bad I found out it has low Compression during Covid I tried to get quotes on full rebuild but I didn’t want to spend the money so it just setting on the lift
@@FactoryPsykopath That’s a common occurrence with a lot of cars unfortunately. If the worst happened with mine it definitely wouldn’t be a quick fix either. Many hurt motor Terminators end up getting parted out just due to the cost of engine replacement or rebuilds
I bought my second 2004 red fire cobra lower miles with my Bonus check back in January 2019 sometime before summer I took the car to get full service and the told me Four cylinders had low compression The car will still run It’s a ticking time bomb . I got a few quotes from the mustang recyclers The time they were asking $10k long block and full rebuilt $12k I’m not sure what the prices are today but I’m sure they’re more No Personal guarantees buying one of them engines from the recycling
Always good to have spare parts! Paul Dafox had some rotten luck with his Ford racing terminator engine. Ford wouldn’t cover it. The bores weren’t center on one bank.
Rebuild the 4.6 or coyote swap is a tough call. The gen 2 coyote can handle a ton of power stock, the coyote is plentiful and has a huge aftermarket. The 03/04 engine is amazing in stock form too, but if you ever have to deal with an engine builder, good luck with that. And Ford no longer supports the modular. All that said, if I could find a decent engine builder id stick with the 4.6 and do a teksid block.
@@rambro0943 That seems the most logical for a Terminator rebuild, despite the coyote making a lot of sense it is it seems wrong, and the sound like poop
Just by chance I came across a set of refurbished 9 thread heads. I have the time and space, so building a stout bottom end isn’t out of the question. I have been looking into 2005+ aluminum blocks. Looks like a perfect match. Am I missing something? Do you know of any problems? I know texid blocks need additional clearance for terminator applications.
@@uncleremis69 I’ve heard of people using the 05 blocks as well but haven’t extensively looked into it. With three Teksid blocks you do have to clearance 2 areas where the lower into sits. It’s just 2 provisions that need to be ground down, never seemed to be very involved from what I’ve seen
@@Lethal_Venom I have a 01 cobra that I am going to forge the short block and pro charge so I can keep the original engine in its original configuration… Something about that snake on the intake puts a smile on my face… We all need to save the 4.6 and keep it alive.
@@AUXITOLED Thanks but the car already has a full set of LED’s in every area so I don’t really want to remove a pair just to replace them with another pair
Terminator cobras deserve to have a Terminator engine. The coyote is cool and a “better” engine with bigger displacement, better cylinder heads and better overall technology but the 03/04 cobra engine is unique a deserves to be in an original car.
@@TheMGChannel I have the same thoughts. Some lines shouldn’t be crossed lol
The Terminator engine also generates more balanced torque numbers with respect to horsepower. And nothing sounds quite like the Terminator 4.6 4V.
@@tomkjr1 Yeah I agree the modular 4.6 does sound better than a coyote, although my Mach 1 sounds incredible stock with the active exhaust. I agree coyotes don’t sound too great specially with headers.
If I blew the motor in my Cobra I'd probably build a Teksid block to replace it. I think a Coyote swap would make the most sense but me personally I'd never want to swap one into a Terminator.
@@JordanSVT it just seems wrong, I can’t place my finger on it but gives me un easy feelings. Teksid is an excellent option although that 5.3 modular stroker is really tempting
I was lucky in my case. My engine builder sold me a spare uncut iron block for $500. Thanks for mentioning my engine incident. I hope it will inspire other owners to be more aware of the danger. Great video Travis!
@@tomkjr1 welcome! Something definitely to be aware of overall. Glad yours turned out well in the end
@@Lethal_Venom I'm still working on the break in! It is harder putting 500 miles on the car than I anticipated, lol. I've spent time fixing up the engine bay and the cosmetic damage done by the engine shop. Getting there bit by bit.
@@tomkjr1 It will get there. Great that it’s up and running again
I had a teksid block sitting side by side to a nemak. Visually, I’d take the nemak over a teksid or wap. It’s the same block that was sold as the aluminator. Mine came out of a 05 aviator.
@@jbp1981 I’ve read up a lot on both blocks and you read advantages of one over the other depending on were you look and who you ask. I think both are a great option and viable for any street driven Terminator. I’d honestly take either one but mostly for weight savings over the iron blocks
@@Lethal_VenomWait, so we can put all of our internals into an Aviator block if need be?
@@3500camarz That I’m not 100% sure. I’ve heard of people using the Aviator and 05 blocks. Depends on the stock bore size. I do know that you can just drop the Terminator rotating assembly into a Teksid / WAP block
I have a Teksid block but it’s been repaired. A machine shop could probably fix it. It was run the way it is but there is a gap by the timing cover. We should all be finding Lincoln mark 8’s that came with the 4V Teksid and should be collecting those engines.
@@justin.c_svt Yeah absolutely. I look from time to time
I have been there. My car burned up two cylinders and needed a full rebuild. Thankfully i was able to reuse my block. However it snowballed fast. Now i have 9 thread heads coustom cams ect and the rear end got the ftbr treatment. That being said man am i glad i went that route. I couldn't do a 5.0 swap on these cars either
The snowball effect can add a lot of unforeseen things for sure lol. Glad I'm not the only one anti 5.0 coyote swap
I agree as for keeping the Terminator Cobra true to its bones, as a purist i would have to stick with the original 4.6, its what made this car so popular. However as the limitations approach if there was no availability then i would definately do a Coyote swap really cant go wrong with it. Still a badass Ford power plant, and way better option then an LS swap. Unless your just worried about being the fastest on a budget.
@@willsam6243 great points. Availability would be the factor for me as well for a coyote swap
I'd say move closer to the Cobra guys/shops... Always nice to have a shop you know has your back... Anything can be rebuilt. The memories are forever. ❤🐍
@@CheesusSVT The ones that can be trusted get fewer and fewer
My original 2003 cobra has 90k miles running good but needs valve seals my
2004 cobra that I picked up before the price went up only had 27k and the motor starting run bad I found out it has low Compression during Covid I tried to get quotes on full rebuild but I didn’t want to spend the money so it just setting on the lift
@@FactoryPsykopath That’s a common occurrence with a lot of cars unfortunately. If the worst happened with mine it definitely wouldn’t be a quick fix either. Many hurt motor Terminators end up getting parted out just due to the cost of engine replacement or rebuilds
I bought my second 2004 red fire cobra lower miles with my Bonus check back in January 2019 sometime before summer I took the car to get full service and the told me Four cylinders had low compression The car will still run It’s a ticking time bomb . I got a few quotes from the mustang recyclers The time they were asking $10k long block and full rebuilt $12k I’m not sure what the prices are today but I’m sure they’re more No Personal guarantees buying one of them engines from the recycling
@@FactoryPsykopath Nope no guarantees at all and the prices have surely gone up
Always good to have spare parts! Paul Dafox had some rotten luck with his Ford racing terminator engine. Ford wouldn’t cover it. The bores weren’t center on one bank.
@@BigStickStangs wow that’s unfortunate, I was wondering why that project abruptly ended as it did
Rebuild the 4.6 or coyote swap is a tough call. The gen 2 coyote can handle a ton of power stock, the coyote is plentiful and has a huge aftermarket. The 03/04 engine is amazing in stock form too, but if you ever have to deal with an engine builder, good luck with that. And Ford no longer supports the modular. All that said, if I could find a decent engine builder id stick with the 4.6 and do a teksid block.
@@rambro0943 That seems the most logical for a Terminator rebuild, despite the coyote making a lot of sense it is it seems wrong, and the sound like poop
Just by chance I came across a set of refurbished 9 thread heads. I have the time and space, so building a stout bottom end isn’t out of the question. I have been looking into 2005+ aluminum blocks. Looks like a perfect match. Am I missing something? Do you know of any problems? I know texid blocks need additional clearance for terminator applications.
Teksid. Forgive my misspelling
@@uncleremis69 I’ve heard of people using the 05 blocks as well but haven’t extensively looked into it. With three Teksid blocks you do have to clearance 2 areas where the lower into sits. It’s just 2 provisions that need to be ground down, never seemed to be very involved from what I’ve seen
Rebuild… I would never coyote swap a cobra EVER
@@anthonywithem2272 Should be a law
@@Lethal_Venom I agree
@@Lethal_Venom I have a 01 cobra that I am going to forge the short block and pro charge so I can keep the original engine in its original configuration… Something about that snake on the intake puts a smile on my face… We all need to save the 4.6 and keep it alive.
@@anthonywithem2272 100%. I could care less about what is better or more efficient with the 5.0. I’d still never put one in a new edge Cobra
@@Lethal_Venom same here brother
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@@AUXITOLED Thanks but the car already has a full set of LED’s in every area so I don’t really want to remove a pair just to replace them with another pair
Don’t be a waxer. Put the coyote in roll on.
@@YouCantoo-co7zk 100% no. They sound like ass
Cool. But waxers sit around and look at their broken cars. Drivers turbo coyotes and get 1k hp and have fun….
@@YouCantoo-co7zk I don’t care if it took 5 years to get the 4.6 rebuilt and who the hell cares about having 1K HP 😂 big deal
Waxer - rather look at it broken than drive it.
@@YouCantoo-co7zk Your ignorance is amusing but please keep commenting