No words about the syllabification and syllable-level features of Lexurgy? *sad noises* (I found it reeeeally helpful for tonal languages) Building upon what previous commenters said, the "rewrite rules" box in the SCA² does help with symbol combinations (affricates, "funny" vowels with "exotic" diacritics, etc.); though you do have to know all combinations you'll encounter beforehand, and type them into the box, so there is still a problem. Didn't know about TriSCA! Comments suggest other appliers too, will look into it (but my heart may be set irremediably on Lexurgy)
Hahaha, I could go on for hours about Lexurgy, wanted to be brief. And yeah I’m seeing that, I’ve never been able to get the whole “rewrite rules” thing to work correctly, guess I’ll have to try again, haha.
Yeah, it works sometimes for me, but not all the time. Once it takes two unicode characters to write something (like, say, a schwa with a mid-rising tone or something), it tends to get lost in SCA2, the diacritics getting attached to other adjacent sounds, etc, unless I haven’t been using it right.
@@AgmaSchwa I'm writing this 2 years too late, but if anyone's interested, the rewrite rules in SCA2 basically allow you to sidestep the problem of diacritics and digraphs by replacing them with single characters (which you can basically choose at random, as long as you don't use them for anything else). Let's look at the example from TriSCA help: {ɛɨ}/{ɛ̃ɨ̃}/_n doesn't work correctly and you are supposed to write it with commas: {ɛ,ɨ}/{ɛ̃,ɨ̃}/_n. How would you do the same in SCA2? Well, you need two categories, let's call them F=ɛɨ and =ɛ̃ɨ̃ (I know [ɨ] isn't a front vowel, but I can't come up with a better name for the category). Wait, you can't use multi-letter categories in SCA2! No problem, just add a rewrite rule |Ą, and it works. I used the angle brackets so that you can still use FN for F + nasal consonant. Let's add our rule now: F//_n. If you try it on kɨn, you'll get k̃n, because SCA2 treats diacritics as separate characters. Well, just replace the with single characters! Add rewrite rules ɛ̃|ǂ and ɨ̃|ʚ. Now it correctly gives you kɨ̃n. If you uncheck the "Rewrite on output" option, you'll see that internally you actually get kʚn, it's just that by default SCA2 applies the rewrite rules backwards before showing the output.
@@AgmaSchwa i tried watching it but he doesnt explain how he does it and the music is way too loud. I spent at least two hours and 3 different spread sheets
I had difficulty finding it 'cause it is not advertised for conlanging specifically, and hosted on the University of Kentucky servers (department of Computer Science). Now let's see its powers...
Try clicking Docs tab on Lexurgy to open up the deep rabbit hole. You haven't even read the ACTUAL manual yet, just BRIEF examples/showcases! :)
Dear lord, you're right, wow, hahaha
Didn’t know lexurgy was this sophisticated
No words about the syllabification and syllable-level features of Lexurgy? *sad noises*
(I found it reeeeally helpful for tonal languages)
Building upon what previous commenters said, the "rewrite rules" box in the SCA² does help with symbol combinations (affricates, "funny" vowels with "exotic" diacritics, etc.); though you do have to know all combinations you'll encounter beforehand, and type them into the box, so there is still a problem.
Didn't know about TriSCA! Comments suggest other appliers too, will look into it (but my heart may be set irremediably on Lexurgy)
Hahaha, I could go on for hours about Lexurgy, wanted to be brief. And yeah I’m seeing that, I’ve never been able to get the whole “rewrite rules” thing to work correctly, guess I’ll have to try again, haha.
If you can write it in Unicode, you can use it in SCA2. There's a box for rewrite rules that I think you missed.
Yeah, it works sometimes for me, but not all the time. Once it takes two unicode characters to write something (like, say, a schwa with a mid-rising tone or something), it tends to get lost in SCA2, the diacritics getting attached to other adjacent sounds, etc, unless I haven’t been using it right.
@@AgmaSchwa I'm writing this 2 years too late, but if anyone's interested, the rewrite rules in SCA2 basically allow you to sidestep the problem of diacritics and digraphs by replacing them with single characters (which you can basically choose at random, as long as you don't use them for anything else).
Let's look at the example from TriSCA help: {ɛɨ}/{ɛ̃ɨ̃}/_n doesn't work correctly and you are supposed to write it with commas: {ɛ,ɨ}/{ɛ̃,ɨ̃}/_n. How would you do the same in SCA2? Well, you need two categories, let's call them F=ɛɨ and =ɛ̃ɨ̃ (I know [ɨ] isn't a front vowel, but I can't come up with a better name for the category). Wait, you can't use multi-letter categories in SCA2! No problem, just add a rewrite rule |Ą, and it works. I used the angle brackets so that you can still use FN for F + nasal consonant. Let's add our rule now: F//_n. If you try it on kɨn, you'll get k̃n, because SCA2 treats diacritics as separate characters. Well, just replace the with single characters! Add rewrite rules ɛ̃|ǂ and ɨ̃|ʚ. Now it correctly gives you kɨ̃n.
If you uncheck the "Rewrite on output" option, you'll see that internally you actually get kʚn, it's just that by default SCA2 applies the rewrite rules backwards before showing the output.
@@AgmaSchwa I'm having the same exact problem
this will be helpful, I've been using SCA² this whole time
Can u make a tutorial on automatic conjugation tables in excel?
Salum the Conlang has already made a video on this, but I could try once I’ve got an opening, haha
@@AgmaSchwa i tried watching it but he doesnt explain how he does it and the music is way too loud. I spent at least two hours and 3 different spread sheets
hehe, I'll look into it then!
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How about Phonomatron?
Oh, never heard that one
I had difficulty finding it 'cause it is not advertised for conlanging specifically, and hosted on the University of Kentucky servers (department of Computer Science). Now let's see its powers...
oh yeah, you’ve mentioned this to me, but i wasn’t able to find it. Do you have a link?
Linguist LL sent it to me on Discord, here it is: cs.uky.edu/~raphael/linguistics/phonomaton.cgi
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