New Ford Fiesta ST 1.5 vs old 1.6 ST DRAG RACE & ROLLING RACE | carwow

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    It’s ST vs ST for our latest drag race! We’ve pulled together both a previous and current generation Fiesta ST to see whether the new 1.5-litre 3 cylinder engine has what it takes to overcome its predecessor. But there can only be one winner, so you know what time it is… Let's race!
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  • @sergiogaona9072
    @sergiogaona9072 6 років тому +2830

    Am I the only one who actually wanted the old Fiesta to win this race? 🤔

    • @TheClarksonFan
      @TheClarksonFan 6 років тому +41

      sergio gaona no, you’re not

    • @OrlandoLeal
      @OrlandoLeal 6 років тому +95

      Yes, you are.

    • @Seldion
      @Seldion 6 років тому +39

      Nope and this is nothing but a load of crap, I have a 16 fiesta and I run 11.9 for the quarter in it, no mods or anything and my friend has the new one and I smoke him all the time.

    • @mrtom2854
      @mrtom2854 6 років тому +4

      Nope

    • @luketyler7260
      @luketyler7260 6 років тому +91

      @@Seldion nope

  • @thatfrozenst8256
    @thatfrozenst8256 5 років тому +313

    do a drag race with
    fiesta ST150, ST180, ST200 and mk8 ST 😁

    • @TheoSanders593
      @TheoSanders593 4 роки тому +6

      I did a run just yet with my ST150. It's a Mountune mp165, so not stock, but still less power (keep in mind that the st182 has overboost and also 200bhp in this.)
      So still 35bhp less, and non turbo so way less torque. I used dragy GPS so it's quite accurate.
      "And it crosses the line at 15.3 seconds!" 😲 I was happily surprised! Guess the mk7 and 8 will be quicker to 200kmh, but I don't get why people call the ST150 slow. Standard maybe, but an exhaust and air intake and it keeps up quite well with less power!

    • @JGreen444
      @JGreen444 4 роки тому

      @@TheoSanders593 In good conditions, with a good start the mk7 st can do 15 seconds flat. Maybe even 14.9

    • @TheoSanders593
      @TheoSanders593 4 роки тому

      @@JGreen444 yeah they shouod have done 3 runs to level things out. Still they are all pretty close on the quarter mile. 😁👍

    • @bandile_sisonke
      @bandile_sisonke 4 роки тому

      Krispen Wah cars.co.za did 15;56secs with the standard ST180

    • @jondonnelly3
      @jondonnelly3 3 роки тому

      @@TheoSanders593 St150 is probably a bit lighter. Lighten it further. Battery, aircon delete, back seats. Great wee cars and far less to go wrong!

  • @NA-6969
    @NA-6969 3 роки тому +71

    I proudly announce that this is the shortest carwow drag race

  • @soundseeker63
    @soundseeker63 6 років тому +45

    Usefully quicker, but the old car definitely looks sharper especially from the back. Like the wheels on the new one though.
    I wonder what the aftermarket tuning crowd will make of the new 3-cyl? The old 1.6 can be taken upto 300+bhp reliably.

    • @dom3827
      @dom3827 4 місяці тому +1

      320hp as far as i know. Dont know if there are even higher figure builds.

  • @sxmbrxxdy2001
    @sxmbrxxdy2001 6 років тому +2163

    Prefer the exterior of the old ST and the interior of the new ST
    Edit: Thanks For The Likes

    • @berkantahmed6278
      @berkantahmed6278 6 років тому +5

      Sam Broadbent same

    • @dsldude1152
      @dsldude1152 6 років тому +9

      Yeah that would be the ideal combination.

    • @swft_
      @swft_ 6 років тому +33

      Uh, the old exterior is ugly, at least the back is awful.

    • @RoyalFizzbin
      @RoyalFizzbin 6 років тому +23

      I disagree. I own the old one and think the new one looks better. I am hoping those wheels on the new one have the same bolt pattern and offset as the old car's so I can get a set. Even the wheels on the new one are better looking.

    • @TheBerlinbaer
      @TheBerlinbaer 6 років тому +11

      The new one Looks like an Hyundai ix20

  • @pjleatherland8745
    @pjleatherland8745 5 років тому +19

    I still have my 2017 one and still love it to this day

  • @jboi9309
    @jboi9309 6 років тому +879

    Am I the only one who thinks the old Fiesta ST looks more sporty and sleek over the new Fiesta ST, regardless of its performance over the new Fiesta ST??

    • @paulmerrett5939
      @paulmerrett5939 6 років тому +13

      J Boi I love the old one (had 1 in 2014) But i think the new one is better in every way. Obviously just my opinion 😁

    • @d33pNacho
      @d33pNacho 6 років тому +31

      I agree with you, the new one's back looks like a Ford van... ugly!!

    • @williamsmith-ob6kv
      @williamsmith-ob6kv 6 років тому +9

      I agree with you. Just put the 215 upgrade on the old St and the car is sublime.

    • @Sierra747
      @Sierra747 6 років тому +11

      I much prefer the old one too in every way. The new one is too big and a bit ugly and has a horrible interior and only 3 cylinders!! Just think how good the new one could be with a proper 4 cylinder engine.

    • @Astke
      @Astke 6 років тому +2

      I like the front of the new one more but I like the rear of the old one more. Interior the new one wins (I dislike both interiors tbh)

  • @ScoRS-zu9jz
    @ScoRS-zu9jz 6 років тому +150

    The old style/ body shape is so much nicer.
    Why change it??!

    • @ilpatongi
      @ilpatongi 5 років тому +20

      Because it looks bad

    • @martythemk3fiesta59
      @martythemk3fiesta59 4 роки тому +13

      @@ilpatongi like ur opinion

    • @ilpatongi
      @ilpatongi 4 роки тому +9

      @@martythemk3fiesta59 Wow you really showed me

    • @martythemk3fiesta59
      @martythemk3fiesta59 4 роки тому +5

      @@ilpatongi 💯

    • @0ffaI
      @0ffaI 4 роки тому +7

      I'd prefer this Fiesta ST to no Fiesta ST 😞

  • @Taccani
    @Taccani 6 років тому +421

    Would have seen vs fiesta st 200!

    • @JacenLetsPlay
      @JacenLetsPlay 6 років тому +4

      GTI Taccans More people should upvote your comment, cause it’s damn true

    • @lilxmiget
      @lilxmiget 6 років тому +6

      With an LSD and launch control as well. The new ST would suck against it.

    • @Lemming1970
      @Lemming1970 6 років тому +6

      and yet the old one doesn't have them. Silly argument really.

    • @BlatentlyFakeName
      @BlatentlyFakeName 6 років тому +10

      The standard mk7 is faster than this anyway. 16 sec 1/4 mile is over a second slower than people have actually done it in.

    • @dom3827
      @dom3827 5 років тому +11

      why the st 200? its not the standard st
      This test purpose is old standard st vs new standard st.
      So your comment makes zero sense.
      Haters gonna hate and they gonna lose always.

  • @gazg00
    @gazg00 6 років тому +87

    Amazing progress out of a 3 cylinder engine. Big up for Ford!

  • @bippetybop7711
    @bippetybop7711 6 років тому +335

    When you hit 1 mil subs can you go 60fps? Would be a great upgrade. Love your work! 👍😉

    • @biziluxgames8924
      @biziluxgames8924 6 років тому +26

      but... 24fps is cinematic experience... /s

    • @bippetybop7711
      @bippetybop7711 6 років тому +6

      Bizilux Games I hope you're being sarcastic. 🤔

    • @IshmaelSimpson
      @IshmaelSimpson 6 років тому +26

      Bizilux Games HAHA! Bippety Bop he's making a reference to Ubisoft and their reasoning for not going for 60fps with their games. They said that 30fps or so gives you a 'cinematic' experience...

    • @bippetybop7711
      @bippetybop7711 6 років тому +6

      Ishmael Simpson Oh right haha. Haven't heard that one before. 😂😂

    • @pdsnpsnldlqnop3330
      @pdsnpsnldlqnop3330 6 років тому +4

      My 4096x2160 monitor only does 24fps and it is cinematic. There is no replacement for displacement!

  • @ryanbrowne2880
    @ryanbrowne2880 6 років тому +8

    I'm going to be honest here, I thought the new one looked not so great. Until I saw one in the flesh. It looks amazing with the right wheels like the one in the video. I now love both shapes.

    • @jonathantaylor3750
      @jonathantaylor3750 2 роки тому

      Those wheels are standard on every ST so you won’t see one without them. Only diff is 17’s on the entry level and 18’s on the ST3

  • @MIGerlag
    @MIGerlag 6 років тому +393

    You should compare the new one to the ST200.

    • @alexvimeo8145
      @alexvimeo8145 6 років тому +21

      And new without launch control

    • @neovenom9833
      @neovenom9833 6 років тому +18

      yup, no launch control and that also means no Quaife LSD.
      I do not know who drove the Black ST, but damn that was bad shifting.
      Anyone else saw how the front was shaking, not smooth at all.

    • @DrMcMoist
      @DrMcMoist 6 років тому +14

      Neo VeNoM I was driving the black ST and... words hurt, y'know?

    • @xsandpathx
      @xsandpathx 6 років тому

      Neo VeNoM o

    • @StarbugsCoffeee
      @StarbugsCoffeee 5 років тому +18

      Why? ST200 was a special model, not the standart one.

  • @markbro4427
    @markbro4427 5 років тому +53

    The older Fiesta definitely looks better especially the back end...lights etc

    • @crezy8490
      @crezy8490 3 роки тому +12

      Defo not, new one is far nicer.

    • @user-mg2qz6ep2o
      @user-mg2qz6ep2o 3 роки тому +1

      I like both however the last generation was a much fresher looking car when it came out in 2008.
      They could have modernized the graphical details in the rear lights on the new one. They look very dated on the lower trim levels.
      Even the wheel designs have been downgraded on the regular models.
      The new model looks about 15 years old in the basic trim level.

  • @____stu____
    @____stu____ 6 років тому +379

    More torque, more bhp, who would have thought the new one would win🙄

    • @IshmaelSimpson
      @IshmaelSimpson 6 років тому +17

      Right!? Should've been the ST200.

    • @ibo1137
      @ibo1137 6 років тому +2

      Yup. I was thinking the same thing.

    • @2MattH96
      @2MattH96 6 років тому +2

      182 hp vs. 200hp hmmm...

    • @mmmakeee
      @mmmakeee 6 років тому +6

      Three cylinder engines are typically slower to respond, i.e. rev, than engines with more cylinders, so that could've made a difference. Not this time though..

    • @beaky1706
      @beaky1706 6 років тому +10

      Weight

  • @suhailaslam175
    @suhailaslam175 3 роки тому +9

    Highly stressed engine, will not last as long as the 4 cylinder.

    • @your_local_brass_bandit8825
      @your_local_brass_bandit8825 Місяць тому +1

      Seem to be lasting alright in comparison to the 1.6, got MK7 STs losing compression and knocking at almost the same age as the early MK8s now

  • @MillerCorner
    @MillerCorner 6 років тому +734

    Faster, more economical, sounds epic - I'm convinced! 👍

    • @marklawson4694
      @marklawson4694 6 років тому +81

      Yes very true, but you can tune a 4 cylinder engine and it won't go bang, as for the new 3 cylinder engine it is probably at its max potential so if you tune it it will be a recipe for disaster.

    • @lewiscannon8213
      @lewiscannon8213 6 років тому +18

      Miller Corner But it has Three Cylinders 😂

    • @detective3728
      @detective3728 6 років тому

      and cheaper to ensure....

    • @Corsa15DT
      @Corsa15DT 6 років тому +21

      sounds like a tractor too.

    • @phillloyd47
      @phillloyd47 6 років тому +29

      I'm not convinced, the wife has a 1.0 3 cyl 125bhp, was a brilliant little engine when new, at 40000 miles it sounds like its done 100000 and she doesn't rag the engine. Not a problem on a 3 year lease, different story if your buying it.

  • @chrissymacgillivray
    @chrissymacgillivray 6 років тому +65

    Would be interesting to see the new ST against an MP215 or ST200

  • @Damo-gq6wl
    @Damo-gq6wl 6 років тому +172

    The older ST looks sharper in the looks department for sure

    • @SlapbackGOD
      @SlapbackGOD 2 роки тому +3

      In that time they all came out with mustang lines, headlights and front bumper from fiestas and focus were in line with the mustang. Definitely prefer the old looks than the newer ones

    • @jamesmiller3639
      @jamesmiller3639 2 роки тому +3

      By a mile I'd say. Ford really dropped the ball with the redesign of this one. Mk7.5 is arguably the best looking hatchback for an age and all they had to do was tweek it but instead someone thought it would be a good idea to squash the back end in and ruined it.

    • @jamesmiller3639
      @jamesmiller3639 2 роки тому +2

      @@SlapbackGOD designed by an Aston Martin designer which can be seen in the grill shape.

    • @SlapbackGOD
      @SlapbackGOD 2 роки тому +2

      @@jamesmiller3639 yes, its such an attractive car to be honest. Focus RS and the Fiesta ST look gorgeous. The mk7 and mk7.5 ❤️

    • @owencampbell7956
      @owencampbell7956 Рік тому

      i think the new st looks a lot more grown up and classier.

  • @FreekToTakex
    @FreekToTakex 6 років тому +7

    That new Fiesta’s interior is wonderful. Drove one last week, and was pleasantly surprised by it!

  • @cinnamonbuns9072
    @cinnamonbuns9072 6 років тому +284

    I swear Matt needs a own TV-Show.

    • @anikroy8973
      @anikroy8973 6 років тому +11

      Cinnamon buns The Mat Watson Show 😁

    • @robertl2856
      @robertl2856 6 років тому +4

      Cinnamon buns he did have one....looking for classic cars for people...and charging a finders fee, sorry cannot remember the name of the show

    • @Macavellic
      @Macavellic 6 років тому +9

      it was "Find Me A Classic" on Insight TV

    • @dave456y
      @dave456y 6 років тому +38

      He does have a TV show, here on UA-cam. Television is dead and would be pointless

    • @detective3728
      @detective3728 6 років тому +4

      no one watch TV anymore...

  • @nyejo
    @nyejo 5 років тому +72

    Sad we can’t get the Fiesta and Focus ST’s in the states anymore 😭

    • @drakevevo3710
      @drakevevo3710 5 років тому +72

      Sloonz Lel probs cos you guys can’t drive manuals and it’s mainly a car available in manual

    • @nordithen
      @nordithen 5 років тому +18

      It really is frustrating for us Americans who prefer manuals, or at least want to give them a try. There are fewer and fewer options available for us these days.

    • @drakevevo3710
      @drakevevo3710 5 років тому +8

      Aidan Boyer your younger generation is getting lazier and lazier, automatics are the first choice for a vehicle in North America, everywhere else in the world, manual cars are the most common. I’ve never driven an automatic, but I can definitely see the appeal due to it being much easier in pretty much every way.

    • @connoroneill3263
      @connoroneill3263 5 років тому +3

      @@drakevevo3710 more and more cars are edging to auto nowadays. Especially for bumper to bumper traffic. No need to use clutch so makes life much easier. Not to mention when cars go all electric. Manuals will be out the window. Sad to think really, I hate autos 🤣🤣🤣

    • @niyazmather
      @niyazmather 4 роки тому +3

      It's your own fault. You buy trucks and SUVs only.

  • @JTheAndroidFreak
    @JTheAndroidFreak 6 років тому +53

    The old Black Fiesta ST was my car in this video (so proud) and nice to see so much support for the old shape. I do like the shape of my car too but I am so surprised by the difference in performance. 3 cylinders on turbo did best the old comprehensively and convincingly. Interior of the new Fiesta ST is cool. Time for my mini review on the new ST 😉 on my channel.

    • @BrunoSantos-ie2nx
      @BrunoSantos-ie2nx 6 років тому +1

      J TheAndroidFreak i prefer the new One. I have it

    • @jameseaton6408
      @jameseaton6408 6 років тому +10

      If it’s you car then it’s slow af. Most people that have dragged their stock ST have been getting 14.9 in the quarter mile 😂

    • @JTheAndroidFreak
      @JTheAndroidFreak 6 років тому

      Bruno Santos Did you have the old one before? How's the new so far even though it might be early to ask.

    • @JTheAndroidFreak
      @JTheAndroidFreak 6 років тому

      James Eaton I know and after driving the new one I so much wanna change. I am also considering the new Polo GTi as well.

    • @Republic3D
      @Republic3D 6 років тому +3

      I like the shape of the old Fiesta better as well.

  • @lr._ry
    @lr._ry 6 років тому +2

    can’t believe that a 1.5L 3 cylinder produces more horsepower than the 4.0L V8 that was used in old land rovers

  • @iR3V3NJARZ
    @iR3V3NJARZ 6 років тому +3

    I really hoped that this would be the case, Faster, More economical and a nicer exhaust tone. This car may have grown up in terms of size and may be better economically, but it certainly seems like a lot of fun. I can't wait to test drive one.

  • @hujimwa
    @hujimwa 3 роки тому +7

    Sort of expected as the new ones got more power. The older shape still looks better.

  • @lingeringsoul
    @lingeringsoul 6 років тому +163

    now imagine this kind of 3 cyclinder beast in the new M3 in 2038.....or a lawn mower engine in the new Merc S class running 4 turbos at 500 psi.....

    • @audirs142
      @audirs142 6 років тому +3

      lingeringsoul lmao 😂

    • @MarcoGT5
      @MarcoGT5 6 років тому +1

      I hear that by 2030 all M cars will be electric :(

    • @boyteebah3794
      @boyteebah3794 6 років тому +6

      lol... shut up and take my money on the merc with a lawnmower engine...lol...

    • @soundseeker63
      @soundseeker63 6 років тому +1

      2038....? Given that you can already buy a 3-series with a 3-pot engine I'm not sure its that far away!.....but hopefully they'll take the plunge and go full EV before we descend into the realms of 3-cylinder M models.

    • @kapitanbuziolekadm5570
      @kapitanbuziolekadm5570 6 років тому +1

      Rip

  • @jasonray2526
    @jasonray2526 5 років тому +3

    This is the last of the Focus models to be sold here in the U.S the 2019 Fiesta ST is on the American market for sale but no more after it will be sold here

  • @beefyeyn
    @beefyeyn 5 років тому +39

    All well and good but from a tuning point of view you'll extract more from the 4 cylinder engine I'd imagine

    • @TheGamingEX
      @TheGamingEX 4 роки тому +3

      A hell of a lot more

    • @maxpierrepont6018
      @maxpierrepont6018 4 роки тому +6

      Well yes, but the 3 cylinders can be extremely powerful too as koenigsegg proved with their twin turbo making 600bhp

    • @yoalvin2287
      @yoalvin2287 4 роки тому +1

      Max Pierrepont this is a fiesta not a super car lol

    • @maxpierrepont6018
      @maxpierrepont6018 4 роки тому

      yo Alvin I am aware of that, I was jus try stating that while a 4 cylinder can have high tuning potential, a 3 cylinder can also produce a load of power

    • @slayaah9534
      @slayaah9534 4 роки тому

      @@maxpierrepont6018 does that not have battery motors to?

  • @Mikey_mau5
    @Mikey_mau5 6 років тому +3

    prefer the front of the new one but the rear end still leaves something to be desired. The old model has a nice sporty look out back. Dang im bummed were not getting these over here in Canada.

  • @Evan2
    @Evan2 6 років тому +11

    Wildly pissed off that the US is not getting the new Focus or Fiesta. All we get is the "Focus Active" Subaru ripoff.

  • @TheoSanders593
    @TheoSanders593 6 років тому +1

    Should havr done one with the mk6ST ST150 as well! Would love to see how much of a difference the new mk8 actually makes over the first fiesta st, the mk6

  • @devidyx99
    @devidyx99 6 років тому +33

    The new Fiesta looks lika a family van.😂😂 In my mind, nearly every car brand made they're new models look more bad then the last one before. VW, Ford, etc.

  • @AgentSmith911
    @AgentSmith911 6 років тому +6

    This car also comes with a tiny 1.0L gasoline engine with 140 hp, which is a cheaper but still fun alternative.

    • @Dominate955
      @Dominate955 6 років тому

      Is that the ecoboost st-line?

    • @glovercarvalho1930
      @glovercarvalho1930 6 років тому

      Exactly, I own one and it's definitely a fun car, but not as fun as the ST tho

    • @Dominate955
      @Dominate955 6 років тому

      Glover Carvalho Yeah I'm thinking about getting that one as insurance is much better

  • @Krzysiek919GTPL
    @Krzysiek919GTPL 3 роки тому +4

    "This is progress". Just wait till 80k km, and 3 cyl engine with this amount of power gonna blow metal pieces everywhere

    • @dom3827
      @dom3827 4 місяці тому

      bs from uneducated people. Was never true and will never be.

  • @MATTFL380
    @MATTFL380 4 роки тому

    My 2019 fiesta st now has 13000 on the clock and I’ve had nothing but trouble! Started to to bog out at mid revs, thought it may have had a blockage in the fuel filter, turns out the injectors were faulty. Back to Ford it went, one day later it was returned, ran fine for a month then, “check engine light” came on and car went into limp mode. Went in for diagnostic and it needed some firm ware installed, got it back the same day ran fine for about a week. Then on my way to work at 6am in the pissing rain there was a massive chuff of white smoke from the exhaust and what sounded like a tub of nails rattling around under the bonnet, the turbo had completely disintegrated. Back to ford it went, 1 week later it was returned, new turbo new seals and a fresh cambelt as the old one had been damaged by the literal explosion of the turbo. So far to this day it has been fine and has behaved itself, but if I didn’t buy it brand new all of the work carried out would have cost me £1200 for the turbo refit, £300 for the cambelt, £150 for the seals, £50 for diagnostics check, £300 for the firm ware update, over £2k worth of repair on a car that is 20 months old!
    Nice of Ford to quote me for all the work to show me how much it would have cost me had I not brought the thing brand new, dick move.
    Turns out these 3 cyl lumps are total dog shit on the reliability stakes, its actually an old model of eco-tec that had a very bad longevity and not the latest and greatest 3 cyl turbo you get in the Focus! Cheeky fucks, oh and don’t forget to change your oil every 5k unless you like garage bills that is. This new Fiesta ST is not worth it at all. Avoid like the plague.

  • @dirkwillkomm2125
    @dirkwillkomm2125 4 роки тому +3

    If I remember correctly, then the new ST has the Overboost function as well and puts out 215hp with it. While the old one gets 200hp. In addition to that the new ST has launch control, wich gives it an advantage (ecept for the ST200, it gets 215hp as well, so that would be more interesting, and the gear ratio to the axle is a bit shorter than from the ST180).
    I drive the MK7 ST with 182hp but with the suspension of the ST200. Even on long rides it is comfy but sporty. I like the look of it a lot more than the new one. Especially the Recaro seats and the rear look and feel far better then the new one in my opinion.
    But I love the exhaust sound of the new ST, fold exhaust!
    I would honestly rather buy the old one a second time if it isn't too used. Because for this little bit of performance difference I still think that I choose the right car for me. The old one just looks so much more sporty and youthful. (And I like the WRC Versions in looks more as well, but thats besides the topic)
    I think it doesn't necessarliy matter if it's 3 or 4 Cylinders. Power is Power. It may have less cylinders and 100ccm less but every cylinder has 500ccm compared to 400ccm of the old. The Problem is rather, you get more power out of less. And the more power you take the higher the possibility that the engines shortens it's lifetime.
    But the new ST ist still quite good, but no car is without fault and it is everybodys own taste that is important.
    This is my opinion, I hope my english wasn't too bad.

  • @si2u263
    @si2u263 Рік тому +1

    I proudly own a 2016 Mk7 Fiesta ST-2 with the stage 1 mountune upgrade.
    What a simple but very worthwhile upgrade for just over £700 !
    Since, mine can sit neck & neck with the new shape mk8 ST (like one shown) after several tests.
    It will also give a Focus 2-0 ST a very good run for it's money, being just a cars length behind on a marked 1/4 mile straight. 👏
    P.S.
    Obviously tested on private land, off the public roads 😜

  • @yansavard7137
    @yansavard7137 6 років тому +12

    Sad we can’t have this beauty in Canada...😥

  • @UKGUYINMANCHESTER
    @UKGUYINMANCHESTER 6 років тому +1

    wish people would stop saying "it has more power, it's going to win", it doesn't. they both have 197bhp but the new one as more torque. really surprised at how drastic the difference is in the real world in terms of performance though.

  • @B9MYO
    @B9MYO 6 років тому +4

    “It squatted down off the line”
    Now I’m no expert but that makes me believe you were using the launch control feature and just not mentioning it...

    • @Jasontvnd9
      @Jasontvnd9 4 роки тому +3

      You can make any fwd car squat with the handbrake on.

  • @fenerliilker
    @fenerliilker 3 роки тому +2

    I'm still in love with my 2010 Titanium X :D

  • @meltravers6981
    @meltravers6981 3 роки тому +4

    The rear of the old Fiesta definitely looks better than the rear of the new one.

  • @ninjaacoos
    @ninjaacoos 4 роки тому +4

    You've never lost a drag race on this channel ... Always puts himself in the fastest car.

  • @Pred1ator21
    @Pred1ator21 6 років тому +5

    The content on this channel provides is so great! Love the new fiesta ST!

  • @blackflagpirate3444
    @blackflagpirate3444 6 років тому +3

    You got to remember they could of added more torque and BHP to the old ST when it was in the manufacturing stage.If both of these cars had identical power the four cylinder would definitely win over the three cylinder.When mapping a car you would get more performance out of the four cylinder.

    • @adamcockayne1325
      @adamcockayne1325 Рік тому

      My brother had mk7 stage 2r map with bolt ons makes 250 bhp and now he has mk8 1r map with just a k&n filter and it and makes 255 weird how stage 1 on mk8 is equivalent to a stage 2 on mk7

  • @MrHennerz
    @MrHennerz 5 років тому +2

    Be good to see the even older ST involved too.

  • @olivergunn1913
    @olivergunn1913 6 років тому +5

    I find it amazing that ford can make almost 200hp from a 1.5 3 cylinder

    • @professorbriancox5858
      @professorbriancox5858 3 роки тому

      Tell that to Toyota now 😂

    • @argonaut6386
      @argonaut6386 3 роки тому

      I'll find it even more amazing if it doesnt blow up after 50k miles like some of their other 3 cylinder and offerings 🤣

  • @goonballer
    @goonballer 6 років тому +1

    Will have to see if it ends up being a reliable engine, can’t imagine forcing out more power from a smaller engine with less cylinders is going to result in the same reliability?

  • @Asif-kh-n9r
    @Asif-kh-n9r 2 роки тому +3

    The 4 cylinder has much higher tuning potential

  • @leefogg2659
    @leefogg2659 6 років тому +1

    What's the new engine like for tuning compared to the old ST? That's why the previous model is so loved and hopefully the new model could be the same

  • @spr35441
    @spr35441 6 років тому +58

    2019 Fiesta ST. Faster, more economical, nicer interior, looks like absolute ass. I'll keep my 2015 ST

    • @willpark7483
      @willpark7483 4 роки тому +4

      Sean Patrick sounds better too tbh

    • @qwerty20992
      @qwerty20992 4 роки тому +4

      It's not bad looking at all

    • @sneakyboots697
      @sneakyboots697 4 роки тому +2

      siddharth kona Old shape is still nicer.

  • @yohansharp3040
    @yohansharp3040 6 місяців тому

    I miss these old drag races with fun little hatchbacks

  • @Jp-us3wy
    @Jp-us3wy 6 років тому +16

    Yeah I know it's fast but still like da old 1

  • @ivanrodic2704
    @ivanrodic2704 4 роки тому +2

    Once I see ken block's new 1.5 3c. Mk8 match the mk7 600-650hp and on coarse than I'm dissing my mk7... So - never! :-)

  • @Chris-nw6ws
    @Chris-nw6ws 6 років тому +3

    Still think the old one looks alot better and will be interesting to see what happens when people start tuning the new one 🤔

  • @janpetira5130
    @janpetira5130 4 роки тому

    The thing about these is that they never stay stock. I myself ended up with 240 hp mk7 and it's so much fun.

  • @pcprincipal345
    @pcprincipal345 5 років тому +3

    I have a fiesta with the same exterior and color in the video(the old one ) except it's only 1.25 liter and 82 hp =D

  • @piankoooindustries1224
    @piankoooindustries1224 6 років тому +27

    WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO THESE BEAUTIFUL REAR LIGHTS FORD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO THEM

    • @florianj6490
      @florianj6490 5 років тому +12

      I like the horizontal ones much better. The old ones looked like the back of a minivan

  • @chrisdooley6468
    @chrisdooley6468 6 років тому +75

    Shame we’re not getting it here in the states. Actually our days of getting Ford cars like this are soon to be over altogether. Save the Mustang we getting no more Ford ‘cars’ only crossovers and trucks sadly

    • @MiniFR12
      @MiniFR12 6 років тому +6

      Chris Dooley Ford will probably bring them back in a few years, unless they want to make losses.

    • @DimoBoychev
      @DimoBoychev 6 років тому

      Curtis Shaw yup

    • @coses4957
      @coses4957 6 років тому

      But you have the old Model with Sync 3, i would very much love to have that one here in europe.

    • @melcanuck5951
      @melcanuck5951 6 років тому +1

      Ford still has its European operation which will produce the Fiesta, Focus and Mondeo (= Fusion) cars.
      IMO the reason why the US is not getting this new Fiesta is because it is too small inside for tall Americans.

    • @RutgerJ
      @RutgerJ 6 років тому +24

      MelCanuck people in most European countries are much taller than the average American so I don't think length has anything to do with it.

  • @BensCoffeeRants
    @BensCoffeeRants 6 років тому +1

    The old Fiesta ST should be able to do a 1/4 mile run in about 15 seconds or just under it. So should be about the same, not sure about the rolling test.
    Sucks we can't get the new one in North America.

  • @jannevaatainen
    @jannevaatainen 6 років тому +22

    As others have also commented, the old one looks better, especially from the rear. New Fords in general look very generic.

    • @mred9161
      @mred9161 6 років тому +1

      Janne Väätäinen if by generic you mean dull and ugly I agree!

    • @Dominate955
      @Dominate955 6 років тому +2

      Yeah it looks like people who have no taste in cars what so ever will buy this car. They will probably get excited by how many cup holders there are!

    • @dom3827
      @dom3827 5 років тому +4

      i find it completely the other way around.
      The old one looks like a deadborn duck baby only its mother could love.
      The new one looks way more sporty and agressive.

    • @SomeoneLikeEveryoneElse
      @SomeoneLikeEveryoneElse 4 роки тому

      @@Dominate955 nice. if i choose a better looking car then i have taste in cars.

    • @Dominate955
      @Dominate955 4 роки тому

      @@SomeoneLikeEveryoneElse Yeah... I had a strong opinion then lol. The funny thing is that I've bought one of the new fiestas. The look of them has grown on me and I now prefer the look of them to the older models.

  • @wilhelm0022
    @wilhelm0022 4 роки тому +1

    I have a 2009 Fiesta with a 1.25L 4 cylinder and i love it.

  • @peterlustig3175
    @peterlustig3175 6 років тому +7

    I mean it's faster and all (which makes sense because the engine is more powerful) but how does it proof that a 3 cylinder Engine is better than a 4 cyl?

    • @BensCoffeeRants
      @BensCoffeeRants 6 років тому +2

      They're trying to illustrate that the 3 cylinder Fiesta ST is still faster than the 4 Cylinder Fiesta ST. Even with one less cylinder and 100cc less displacement.
      In reality I think they're about the same speed. The new 3 cylinder might be more efficient especially coasting on the highway in 2 cylinder mode when the 3rd de-activates.
      Does it prove that all 3 cylinder cars (how many are there?) are better or worse than 4 cylinder ones? Nope.

    • @richardhurr31
      @richardhurr31 6 років тому

      Technically it isn't more powerful as the Mk7 has 197bhp on overboost for 15 seconds.

    • @TheBb6prelude
      @TheBb6prelude 6 років тому

      Richard Hurr the why didn’t it win. It was a land slide win here,not even close.

    • @Dominate955
      @Dominate955 6 років тому

      preludeF20Bking Driving skills, how quickly the cars got off the line, the old car has probably done more miles.

    • @paulhope3401
      @paulhope3401 4 роки тому

      Peter Lustig - I totally agree. They havent looked at the bigger picture. I wouldnt be surprised if that 3 cylinder engine was only fit for the bin by 80k miles. I wouldnt touch it with a bargepole.

  • @Sarruji
    @Sarruji 6 років тому

    It's nice to see that pitting a used Fiesta St, with all the trashing it underwent in its life, up against a new car is considered a good comparison.

  • @japanandthings7719
    @japanandthings7719 5 років тому +7

    Do new and old swift

  • @TjipzPK
    @TjipzPK 6 років тому

    Almost 1 million subscribers, congratulation. You deserve every one of them.

  • @BigSpaghetti6
    @BigSpaghetti6 5 років тому +37

    The new one looks like a minivan, im still taking the old one

    • @MrCrazy-R
      @MrCrazy-R 4 роки тому +2

      only interior is better

    • @buziochi3941
      @buziochi3941 4 роки тому +6

      Exterior, interior and engine are better for the new one

    • @astradala1845
      @astradala1845 3 роки тому

      @@buziochi3941 outside is nice on the old one, but the interior is nicer on the new one

  • @rogerramjet1419
    @rogerramjet1419 6 років тому +2

    Great video.
    Love you guys work.
    Would be nice to see the new ford ST compared to an old school Ford XR6.

  • @goaliepro1996
    @goaliepro1996 5 років тому +3

    Now do a drag race with old and new focus st

  • @sannekerkstra7472
    @sannekerkstra7472 4 роки тому +2

    I am more then happy with my old Fiesta.. I like the exterior of that oje 10000x times more

  • @buckleyjteams
    @buckleyjteams 6 років тому +4

    Cant wait to pick mine up on Wednesday

    • @richardhurr31
      @richardhurr31 6 років тому +1

      buckleyjteams you might put your back out trying to pick it up so be careful.

    • @danielb8378
      @danielb8378 6 років тому

      Richard Hurr hahaha

  • @JP-uk9uc
    @JP-uk9uc 4 роки тому

    I'll keep my 2016 Focus ST. Looks heck of allot better than the 2020 for sure.

  • @bv2146
    @bv2146 6 років тому +9

    Come on, surely I'm not the only one who thinks the new one looks mint compared to the last one.
    Ps. I have a focus rs. Not the fiesta man

    • @JMaverick1985
      @JMaverick1985 5 років тому +2

      King B new one looks way better!

    • @KeithOutWest
      @KeithOutWest 5 років тому

      Yes, new one looks better.

  • @12Mojo
    @12Mojo 4 роки тому

    Okay, but what about the new ST vs a stage 2 pop and bang ST's that you find a floodload on autotrader, can it beat an old ST running around 210-225bhp?

  • @mickrob22
    @mickrob22 6 років тому +18

    in your other video, your 1/4 mile time for the new Polo GTi was rubish. not near what every reviewers got... and now your trying to tell me the old ST is doing 16.1, when everywhere times goes between 14.9 and 15.2 .............. come on

    • @NineEleven1
      @NineEleven1 6 років тому

      Shoud be running closer to 15s yes.

    • @TheBb6prelude
      @TheBb6prelude 6 років тому

      Mick Rob these are un prepped streets and not drag strips. They would be significantly faster on a sticky drag strip even without prep done.

    • @jdz3520
      @jdz3520 6 років тому +1

      mick rob couldn't agree more. I get constant low 15.s at high altitude

    • @gerardorios6821
      @gerardorios6821 6 років тому +1

      I'm form Puerto Rico and a had a Fiesta ST 2016 and I recently went to the Race track for a 1/4 mile and I did 14.3sec at 98mph I'm stock turbo at 93oct and I think I can do much better with some Race tire cause I was using the conventional tire from the dealer

    • @davothegreat9990
      @davothegreat9990 6 років тому

      @@curtiswhyte3297 wtf!!🤣🤣

  • @rootsmanuva82
    @rootsmanuva82 6 років тому +2

    I'm really pissed this sweet hot hatch isn't coming across the pond. Thanks Ford.

    • @danielleroux6490
      @danielleroux6490 6 років тому +1

      Contact Ford US and tell them how you feel. If we all contact Ford, they will listen to their customers!

  • @shadowblade2149
    @shadowblade2149 6 років тому +13

    my mum's 1.8 litre Vauxhall zafira will do the standing quarter mile in 2 hours. 😐😐

    • @londonas2
      @londonas2 4 роки тому +7

      Shadow Blade it wouldn’t finish, it’s Vauxhall 🤦‍♂️

    • @oddities-whatnot
      @oddities-whatnot 4 роки тому

      And would probably catch fire in the process unless the recall has been done.

    • @shadowblade2149
      @shadowblade2149 4 роки тому

      @@oddities-whatnot which it hasn't. Neither has a service for years. It's just parked up and used as storage 😂😂

    • @aidandolan7543
      @aidandolan7543 4 роки тому

      @shadowblade my mums 2006 zafira had 75 hp when new and it hasn't been maintained well probably has like 40hp now, never mind the weight of it

  • @manupasta
    @manupasta 2 роки тому

    Second race wasn’t even in sport/track mode, and the trottle response isn’t as responsive in standard mode. Even more impressive

  • @Elaba_
    @Elaba_ 6 років тому +6

    I already know which car will win at the beginning of the race: the car Matt sits in. Sorry for being the party pooper.

  • @66Revolution
    @66Revolution 5 років тому

    The benchmark for the new Fiesta ST was the previous generation Fiesta ST200. That should've been the test.

  • @mark-1rc502
    @mark-1rc502 6 років тому +15

    Another thing , how old is the Mk7?
    How many miles has it done ?
    Has it been serviced recently ?
    Has it been thrashed about over the last couple of years ?
    Too many variables racing a Used over new car.
    Just buy a Decent mk7 for about 10K shove a Bluefin in it . And job done .
    When the Mk8 hits the used market buy one .
    Why buy new and loose a heap of money as soon you drive it away .

    • @iR3V3NJARZ
      @iR3V3NJARZ 6 років тому +1

      Because some people like to buy new cars..? Its a more premium experience i guess, you can choose exactly what you want, and the money you lose is the price you pay for the experience, you have to do it at least once in your life

    • @richardhurr31
      @richardhurr31 6 років тому +1

      Mark C Bluefin? Better maps than that. Stick to Peron, Collins and Revo.

    • @mark-1rc502
      @mark-1rc502 6 років тому

      Richard Hurr
      I just kind of said that because it’s very simple a lot less hassle,
      I’ve used Bluefin on my Mk2 focus ST
      It wasn’t all that bad tbh,
      I bought a Mondeo 1.6 ecoboost titanium’x I Bluefin that , it was dreadful it made the car drive like 💩.
      I’m using it on my Mk3 2014 focus ST
      Again because I could press a button on my phone haveit delivered to me and I didn’t have to go nowhere .
      It’s a lazy option I guess if not the best .
      Again I’d be inclined to agree with you
      It’s a very lumpy? / Spike’y power delivery . But I was just giving an example I suppose 😬.
      I was thinking about Collins before I went my own way
      Scorpion Cat/b non res . And me ole Bluefin ,
      But I wanted my reservations answered
      They didn’t answer any of my emails
      Where as Bluefin always get back with a reply . So that was that.

    • @AkinaGhost
      @AkinaGhost 6 років тому

      Jacob Nickels Except not many people will build/order these cars as they want them since they'll be buying them from available stock, because you can get much better deals that way.

    • @Dominate955
      @Dominate955 6 років тому

      Some people don't like the idea of someone else driving the car before they did, but I do agree with you. I bought my car off the used market and probably will do again with my next car.

  • @TheASASSI
    @TheASASSI 3 роки тому +2

    Why old one looks better?

  • @TURBOMIKEIFY
    @TURBOMIKEIFY 5 років тому +3

    Jesus, the new ST is BEAUTIFUL! FORD!!!!

    • @nissanpatrol8950
      @nissanpatrol8950 5 років тому

      Michael Turner-Smith how??

    • @wilsonblue8990
      @wilsonblue8990 5 років тому

      Even I think the same . These little group of haters are every where trash talking about the car design. but the real huge number of people who love the design are quiet and tired of getting their comment trash talked so remain silent. I'm not an isheep bit it is what happening to apple too in this UA-cam forum. So much hate man

    • @nissanpatrol8950
      @nissanpatrol8950 5 років тому

      Test Bot the old one looks more intimidating

  • @amylou0288
    @amylou0288 6 років тому

    Was this the revised mk7.5 with shorter gearing etc? Didn't expect that result to be so clean cut... I own a 2016 mk7.5 and have zero desire to upgrade even after this vid. Love my Orange ST, such a fun car to drive. How about head to head vid with the ST200?

  • @NoName-tz5ji
    @NoName-tz5ji 5 років тому +5

    The 1.5 will beat it to the mechanics and junkyard also.

  • @T20yur
    @T20yur 6 років тому +2

    Wheels and the back of the Old Fiesta are way better! Everything else- well done Ford

  • @MarcoGT5
    @MarcoGT5 6 років тому +3

    a simple £300 cp2 remap on the old st and it should easily keep up or be faster

    • @MarcoGT5
      @MarcoGT5 6 років тому

      but of course the new one should be a bit quicker standard and with a more modern interior so if you want a brand new car get the new one but I wouldn't change my mk7 for the new one knowing its safe to mod up to 300bhp or more. Also mk8 doesn't make the mk7 look outdated, I like the side window shape both similar.

    • @richardhurr31
      @richardhurr31 6 років тому +1

      That's what I have on mine. Not sure what the quarter mile would be, I got a 14.8 on public road timed with torque pro but I'm guessing it could get 14.5 on a decent surface with a good launch.

    • @jamie3499
      @jamie3499 5 років тому

      @@richardhurr31 What 0-60 have you managed with CP2?

    • @richardhurr31
      @richardhurr31 5 років тому

      @@jamie3499 6.1 seconds

  • @iUKzVIPERzZ
    @iUKzVIPERzZ 6 років тому

    What about the MK7 ST with the factory option mountune kit? Brings it up to 215bhp, and it's an option Ford gives, so surely it could be done to see the difference between the two?

  • @JMNTN
    @JMNTN 6 років тому +7

    At least they still offer a 3 door for their warm hatch unlike vw with the polo

    • @mrc14_2
      @mrc14_2 6 років тому +2

      Got memes? Warm hatch
      Great name :)

  • @brianlangan4477
    @brianlangan4477 4 роки тому

    Please do a drag race between the old Ibiza FR and the new Ibiza FR

  • @AristotelisMitsiou
    @AristotelisMitsiou 6 років тому +6

    What's that airplane behind the cars? Is it an Airbus Skylink?

    • @manimnaHusna
      @manimnaHusna 6 років тому +1

      Agree, looks like super guppy
      Thats stole my attention more

    • @AristotelisMitsiou
      @AristotelisMitsiou 6 років тому +1

      JonW AV Awesome, thank you for the heads up.

    • @joshjack6127
      @joshjack6127 6 років тому

      Incorrect, Aristotelis Mitsiou is right, it's an Airbus Skylink. The Super Guppy was built by Aero Spacelines not Airbus

    • @joshjack6127
      @joshjack6127 6 років тому +1

      I'm with you now JonW AV that makes complete sense, my fault for not seeing the apostrophe 😅😅

    • @joshjack6127
      @joshjack6127 6 років тому +1

      It's all good! You too fella 😊

  • @MrProgrammingexpert1
    @MrProgrammingexpert1 2 роки тому

    Pal you didn't even have it in sport mode, definitely more responsive and slightly better power delivery.
    I reccomend you do it again but have this mode on to see of there's a difference

  • @joshuaminke6629
    @joshuaminke6629 6 років тому +3

    i always thought the mk7 looked abit to chavy, boy racer type, i like the more subtle look on the mk8

  • @toms_garage
    @toms_garage 6 років тому

    Great video! Love the comparison videos between generations!

  • @hydenshribby
    @hydenshribby 6 років тому +5

    I like the rear of the new Fiesta, it looks like a grown car now.

  • @fisslewine1222
    @fisslewine1222 6 років тому +2

    Fiesta, a brilliant car, and oddly a car I can easily fit into the driving seat!

  • @abdulwahaab9026
    @abdulwahaab9026 6 років тому +4

    It has improved a lot but I would still buy the old model ST due to price

  • @OriginalOrigins
    @OriginalOrigins 6 років тому

    The new fiesta is growing on me but the backend of the old car seems like more of a party

  • @blanchbacker
    @blanchbacker 6 років тому +4

    That beat at the end is fire! 🔥