Mort, like I commented on your last video. Copart has done us like this 3 times. All 3 times we fought them and all 3 times the court found them liable and responsible for all fees and charges associated with the arrest and impound. The court ruled that Copart was supposed to have everything in order before selling a vehicle. So don't let this go. We stopped dealing with them and only buy from Manheim here in Statesville NC. I wish you the best man.
Carvana really exemplified this type of a problem as well and made it very public as it affected direct consumers. Like plenty of stories of women buy a car off of Carvana and get pulled over and charge with a stolen vehicle.
Just do not bend over to pick up the soap block! The amount of views will make up for your loss and this will be a good story to tell to your grandchildren.
You're a tool Insurance companies get the cars if they get recovered after they pay off the insured That's why some titles are branded theft recovery Something is missing from this "story "
Many times the insurance company fails to file the paperwork or information to remove the theft designation. It’s oversight on insurance company part and copart title people just file for replacement title. It happens way to much .
@93z32 what do you think copart and iaa? Do? Sell insurance vehicles Hmm think about it.. Truck gets stolen Insurance pays the insured after a period Truck winds up being recovered and is sent to auction house for storage until title is in hand The issue was it shouldn't have been sold until paperwork was in place It sounds like a insurance company is to blame Depending on the state the title could get branded as a theft recovery Something seems fishy if it was stolen most likely they would have busted the steering column up to start it
I've purchased theft recovery cars from RepairableVehicles in Harrisburg SD. Never occurred to me that the cars weren't cleared from police database. Thanks for the info!
As a 19 year veteran police officer/detective in a major city I would not have arrested you and or seized the vehicle. Based on the totality of circumstances I could have determined you hadn't committed a crime and the vehicle slipped through cracks with NCIC. It happens.
Thanks for the PSA so people know what to do to ensure this doesn't happen to them . Sucks to pay $1400 in fees and that doesn't include making sure it's not on the stolen vehicle list .
I dealt with Copart when I ran a shop for Yellow Freight. They could mess up a two car funeral. They would sell units and "forget" to send us a check, they would have units on hand for long periods of time and "forget" they had it. Generally they were a nightmare to deal with.
My dad and I can't register with them while having a car lot due to them demanding documents of incorporation when the business is set up as sole proprietor in my state and even trying to explain this to the nutjobs they demand documents we dont got
We sold several cars through them when we cleaned up our lot. We ended up owing them money on several of them because they sold them for less than the auction fee.
I got busted for a DUI when I was sober. The cop said I didn't pass the sobriety test. He took me to the cop shop and gave me the blow test. I was sober so he changed it to reckless driving. I had to spend the night in jail. Then go to a court house the next morning, which was 30 miles away. The judge let me out on my own recognition. Then I had to get a lawyer to resolve it, which he really didn't. I had to pay the fine & if I didn't get in trouble for a year it would be removed from my record. It cost me a lot of money for not doing anything wrong.
Very often (very, very often) criminal defense attorneys just take your retainer of thousand of dollars and then tell you they have a great plea deal for you and recommend you take it! What most of us don't know is we could of got that exact same plea offer ourselves for zero dollars. I learned that in my 20's over 35 years ago. I can almost guarantee that if you had demanded your speedy trial and taken it all the way to the day of trial, the DA would of either given you throw away plea deal just to get it off the books and keep their 96% conviction rate intact or dropped the charges completely. The whole program is a total scam
@@keithmerritt2897 You need to write a song about this story and sell it off in Nashville and get your money back. Jelly Roll would sing out his lungs for a truthful story turned into a song. Give it a try.
It's been said that life is 20% what happens to you and 80% how you react or respond to it. As near as I can tell you handled this about as well as anyone could be expected to, although in private I am guessing there is a lot of anger and resentment that we haven't seen. You got through it, learned a lot, unwillingly, and will recover. You have nothing to be ashamed of. Hold your head high and keep on truckin'. We all wish you the best and we will be watching. Someday you will have some good stories to tell your grandchildren. Salute!!
Applause!!! Guts, your got'em. Thanks for posting for us car guys & gals. Couple years ago I made a trip to a Georgia Copart & brought back a VW Jetta diesel for a Dr. friend. Rude staff as I opened the envelop to check paper work. Rude but efficient fork driver who did place the car on my trailer. He seemed intolerant/impatient as I checked VIN & got in to start & make operational inspection. Make it back to NE Oklahoma without incident. Took them 3 weeks to send follow-up documents! Won't haul from their yard again. Some of their yards may be more business friendly, but I'll never know. As for Hagerty, most of the car clubs (ours" included) speak highly of their services. Hope this is one that isn't their fault, but paperwork happens (or doesn't). Best to you & your business!
Having also been falsely arrested and drug out of Calculus 2 in college I can wholeheartedly agree that it sticks with you and it sucks having to tell the story over and over again. Hopefully you can get your record expunged, lawyer will help with that for sure! Love your channel keep up the great work!
A lawyer should be able to get Mortske's criminal record expunged, meaning that ALL of Mortske's personal information, mugshots, fingerprints etc should be removed from ALL police agency databases. Copart/Haggerty should be financially responsible for the legal fees to accomplish this end! I suggest that Mortske or his legal counsel should contact the recent President elect with regard to this matter, I'm sure that he would have considerable empathy with Mortske's legal circumstances.
@@bobdirt1312 They just 'seal' the record, which means nothing but a request to the judge to unseal it should you ever come to their attention again. Once they get the information or put a person in the system it never goes away.
Im an OTR trucker, I NEVER travel highway 54, I’m in fact sure I’d never been through there. But this week I traveled from Albuquerque to the Kansas City area. I passed the abandoned station where you worked on your truck in Mondays video. Kingman KS I believe.
I have seven vehicles insured with Hagerty insurance for years and they have always been a great company for me ,I have to believe they will do the right thing. You have handled this whole situation and video in a very professional manner .
@@moremortskerepair4354 i subed i hope you let us know even if you need to say it with out saying it but shet man i learned one thing check vin numbers even if i buy it at auction explicitly if it was stolen in past and thats why its their at said auction people are lazy and the state can mess stuff up lots of people in the paper trail .i know in tn dot gov DMV sight last i looked i could fork over money and run vin in their system dealer only i do not remember
Hope all is well no matter how long you talk. I’ll still watch your videos. You’re the type of person that makes everybody feel like they’re watching a part of the their own family. Good luck to you.
Now you know why people have been saying the system's not great and keeps you in the loop. Glad you got out, but hope it opened your eyes to what can happen!
I was one of the guys who thought if you had just had paperwork you would have been fine. Man was I wrong! I'm so sorry that you went through that. I honestly hope things work out for you and that you are made right ( at least financially) after all is said and done.
Says a lot about the common sense the police officer have to arrest you as you hold a bill of sale from the auction. I’d sue them if I had the paperwork and they still falsely arrested me. You can’t blindly trust a database when common sense says the database is wrong.
@@peterodorizzi he did handle it well but it could have been way worse it coulda been an arrogant cop that is only out to arrest everyone, he got lucky in my book, cudos to Mortsky for staying calm! ✌
Feel your pain and frustration there Sir Morticus. I was arrested for possession of a stolen vehicle. It was my vehicle that i reported stolen a month earlier to my town police. Car was recovered in my town, insurance company called me to pick it up at a tow yard in my town, tow yard had my name on their list from the insurance company to pick it up, i had the title with me. two blocks from home, pulled over and arrested. Like you said, no amount of paperwork would have got you out of it. I had the title in my name, insurance card listing the car on my insurance, receipt from the tow yard. Still spent 6 hours in jail.
Maybe the cops choose not to use their discretion in situations like this because a "felony arrest" looks good on their records (Gold Star ⭐) and they don't really care that it's at the expense of yours??? He was smart too! He pretended to be your friend to try and avoid any direct complaint about himself! ("Oh, I'm so sorry! My hands are tied and I'm duty bound to arrest you and take you to jail for this serious felony!") 👮🏽♂🐷 Are cops automatons?? Do they have any discretion?? He could have looked at the abundantly clear evidence Mortske had on him, made sure he had insurance, understood the situation and let him get home to sort the issue out with the slack assed 'Copart' and 'Haughton Police Dept'!!! What a waste of tax payer's money, Mortske's time and money, Joe's time and money not to mention the unnecessary trauma and great embarassment caused to a law abiding citizen!
@1BIGFROGGY they probably could've just figured it out on the side of the road if the cop had been patient. Literally just call Hagerty and copart like they ended up doing anyways.
This information is actually helpful for anyone such as myself who is a car/ truck hobbyist. Over the course of the years I've ended up with some cars/ trucks without titles. Mostly parts vehicles. I'll be looking up everything from now on. Thanks for sharing this.
Appreciate the video. You’re a stand up dude. We all love you man. We all feel connected to you for the small glimpse you give us into your life. We got your back. God is good! Glad we got 47! Looking forward to the giveaway on this truck.
So sorry this has happened to you, my wife and I are huge fans and love watching you, keep your chin up, sending you lots of love and prayers from us all over here in England x
wow. thanks for the upload sir! Sorry you got mixed up in this mess sir! Sounds to me like copart and whomever insurance companies they work with should be responsible for eliminating these kind of problems.
Mortske Army unite!!!......Great video Mortske, very down to earth and humbling. One of the most real videos I've seen on UA-cam, hit me right in the feels!
Having bought many many Copart and other auction cars as part of my full time gig (a bunch from OKC). Heres what I would suggest from now on be implemented into the auction system -- On theft recovery vehicles i think a separate form needs to come into play releasing the vehicles VIN from the NCIC system, almost like a lien release and be notarized and signed as part of the auction paper work given to the buyer. Im watching this situation very closely because I intentionally seek out theft recovered vehicles at auction as part of my business, they have been quite profitable for the time spent repairing them. The last thing I would ever want is one of my customers to find themselves in this type of situation, that would end my good reputation as well. I also wouldnt want myself in the same situation, I dont have a record and would be VERY unforgiving to any company that dropped the ball and put me there.
Hi Mort, i have just watched this in Australia - to say the least, it was a total stuff up on Coparts behalf for not having checks and balances in place to ensure this does not happen, I will be emailing just so they can see it has gone international - that surely will not go down well to know it has gone that far. all the best and keep up the great videos and what you do. look forward to more videos and more of what you do. cheers from Down Under.
You have a positive attitude about the cops, just be cool and deal with it after the situation is over. I'm a wholesaler, sometimes I get pulled over cause the plate on the vehicle is registered to a suspended license holder. Now I strictly use my dealer plate. I'm in Washington State.
Mortske, I’m retired Law enforcement and the city agency that neglected to remove that truck from the stolen list is the culprit here. Get em! No excuse for something so simple as removing a recovered stolen from the system. Sorry you had to go through that buddy. As far as the Officer that arrested you, I understand how he may simply not have the time to do further investigation for you from a manpower view point. I can tell you under the circumstances at my agency I’m retired from they could have called the District Attorney’s office and asked for them to submit the case instead of arresting you. Now I’m in a different state so 🤷♂️
I'm also a Retired Officer and a Special Investigator for the County P.A. and the responsibility just doesn't end with the City/County Agency. Haggerty and Co-Part SHOULD have called them ensure that it was taken off and Co-Part shouldn't have listed nor sold the vehicle until they had conformed it was taking off the SVL.
Sounds to me like multiple suits need to be filed and some restitution and all court and lawyer fees to be paid for by co-part/ haggerty, and the local agency that was in charge of the investigation/ recovery of said vehicle.
God Bless u Mortske for helping out the family in need u an pudden both I'm really glad to here u say u got to church with pudden and his family makes a guy feel really good about him self I no it does me ! I'm glad u got all the charges dropped Hagerty and copart need to pay u back and some not even cool at all happy to here u got charges dropped
Hey Mortske, I've worked for Minnehaha s.o. for a while now and seen guys in your situation a time or 2. Miserable situation. u are correct, there is no way of getting around what happened other than the initiating agency doing their job. Appreciate the level approach u have to this situation. Being booked brings out the worse in most people and u handled it like a gentleman. Very much appreciate your content! Keep up the great work!
id sue SOMEONE, not sure who u should sue, i GUESS copart, AND id make SURE that it was taken off your criminal record!! Good luck man, and i have FINALLY gotten use to your personality, and i really enjoy your shows. Keep it up brother, glad you have came sooo far!!
As a reired Sergeant from a Sheriff's Office your right on all your information! NCIC and others it can be hard to clear warrants and other things. If a person comes in on a warrant and the Judge releases the individual on that warrant (s) I had to make sure it was cleared before they were released from custody. I'm glad your doing better and are finding out what went wrong.
First - emails have been sent. Second - thanks for doing this (post, upload, whatever you call it). I know that you will never forget the episode, but you should not let it scar you. Keep up the good stuff.
As I wrote in the email I just sent these folks - I had considered using copart down the road... but now - no sir.. I don't need that kind of pain. Thanks for telling the tale sir!
I used to run the scale at a junkyard, and I used to buy vehicles from IAA and Copart quite a bit. I've had a couple come back funny, but it always gets cleared up quickly. There is usually a paperwork snafu somewhere, or it is a domestic situation where one partner got mad at the other and reported the car stolen. It's a pain in the butt, but I never got into any legal trouble over it. We would always run them through the system and immediately self report if there was any issue with the paperwork on them. You should move to Tennessee. With our title laws, possession is nine tenths of the law when it comes to classic cars.
So happy to hear you like attending church, I hope you can find a good congregation around your area. I pray you'll look back at all this one day and laugh. Take care my friend.
Dude, I'm glad you're out, home and ok. I am extremely skeptical about buying anything online like FB or CL because of something like this happening. Keep up the good work Mortskie!!! \m/
Thank you Mortske!! I will never do business with these companies if they dont try and make it right!! Also I'll be sure to spread the word! They did you dirty!!!
Feel your pain. I had an issue with my license back in 04'. Cost me 500-ish bills to get them back and shorty afterward got pulled over (in my pimped out 87 Monte Carlo Ls lowrider), deputy said my DL's came back suspended and i had a warrant. My mom had to take my pregnant girlfriend, her son, my niece and GF's cousin back home because i got arrested. Got released that night on a $500 bond, had to miss work the next day to go 40 miles out my way out get a copy of my driving record and deal with the sheriff dept over the warrant (which they said never was one). A month later went to court date stated on my paper work just to find i wasnt on the docket (found that out when the judge got done with the last case and i was still there). Judge ask if anyone had my driving record (which was a big no), handed him my copy which he looked at and immediately said dismissed, cause their wasnt ever a warrant and my license was good. I got all the bond exceot for jail fee which i should've been in the 1st place
Thanks for the great content- you go to the most extreme lengths to amuse us. No, but seriously, what an insane experience! I guess you could have gotten yourself tased, but like you said, you were amazingly lucky, calm and collected. I hope you will be successful in turning this into a net positive.
I love internet "experts" that have no clue. Thanks for the update. As a person that works for a corporation, these guys don't care because it doesn't effect them personally. I am one of the people that don't think like that but see it on the daily.
Hey Mort. - since you brough up faith. yep. me too brother. the church i attend in Grand Island nebraska isn't a 'churchy church' they're a community of people who support each other and give and love. sometimes it's hard to talk about, but you're spot on with how a good church community can change a lot, including your outlook on society and life. thanks for sharing brother! also, i'm 45 miles from york NE, feel free to get arrested here anytime (I KID I KID)
What the duff? You went through a bit of fire there. Glad you don't let it make you bitter. You get a new appreciation of Paul and Silas's story maybe? If not, then I guess you will always have Caitlyn. Happy New Year. Keep the stories coming.
Please consult an attorney! You have a major lawsuite because your civil rights were violated, your credit rating , and a felony record. Somebody has to pay for this.
I got my free mortske stickers today! Happy to support the cause! Also cool that you get to go to church with Puddin and the crew and help out the family who lost their home. Keep up the awesome content! Really enjoy it!
Here at the action we get paper's of registration, but we still have to take them to the registration inspection, before we can drive on the road, thanks for sharing, all the best to you and your loved ones
Copart would be most liable civilly. They have in the past sold vehicles "stolen recovered" and caused other people grief. They have the obligation to NOT sell stolen property!!! Hagerty also should NOT have released the vehicle to be sold prior to having it removed from N.C.I.C. (National Crime Information Center). I hope you make a lot of lemonade out of this story. I really enjoy watching your content, keep it up.
@@christophers.4007 Nope, he is not wrong. My wife's car was stolen but we got it back later that same day. She was arrested dropping off the kids at school about a month later for possession of a stolen vehicle. It stays on your record and there is no way to get it off. She's a Dr. and when she got her license she had to report the arrest and provide documentation it was dismissed. It won't come up in a general background check, but it will come up in whatever background check they do for Dr's, lawyers, anything that requires a security clearance.
I can tell you that I went through a similar situation. Bought a cool little S10 square body, 5speed V6 through Public Surplus. Had been gifted to a school. Had a title, which was provided to me. Went to DMV with the truck in Casa Grande Arizona. They informed me the truck was listed in Phoenix, from about 5 years before the current title was issued. Long story short, CGPD came out, inspected the vehicle...called PPD a few times, who finally admitted it was their fault because it was listed as recovered, but they never pulled it out of the system. Will probably never get rid of it now, just because of the story. All that to say this...I feel your pain!
Interesting explanation. So the lesson is: if you are buying a known stolen/recovered vehicle pay for a vehicle history scan or call the local cops to check if it is still listed as stolen or not. The other admin issues are out of your control.
Copart: Where you pay Barrett-Jackson prices for junk. An auction is a place where you compete with others to see who will pay the most for something. I want to pay the least for something. When I was a kid, I thought "If I could just have access to dealer & salvage auctions, I could make a fortune!". Then I became friends with a guy who had a dealer's license and he took me to some auctions. I immediately discovered that I could do far better buying cars from the classifieds....
Mort, brother you are a great man, heck of a mechanic, honest and humble. I can’t believe you were subjected to all this nonsense over someone else’s oversight or neglect. Prayers for you brother and we expect you to be compensated accordingly and if not us “your fans” will gladly fight with you
Just sent the emails. Please let us know if you need record of it, or if you consider reaching out to the countless other individuals that have went through this same thing unjustly, that don’t have the voice and reach you do, and put together a class action lawsuit.
Have had dealings in the past with Copart being a wrecker operator moving vehicles bought around the state!! They’re awful!! Lawton Police is one of the worst in the State of Oklahoma. A lot of issues with them. Will email all and so sorry this happened!!!
I definitely hope they get everything straightened out with you, Mort. I'll definitely email them and pass along a good word on your behalf. They owe you an apology and MONEY BACK, in my opinion, for all the crap you went through. I've been a loyal viewer and fan for....forever, seems like, probably subscribed about 2017, i think. Keep up the great work! 👍👍
You are very lucky the cop was cool and respectful, most aren't and this could have been way worse than it was, like you said a call for backup and gun drawn situation, i would definitely look into getting your record cleared, most non violent crimes can be cleared, best of luck my friend
Whoever told you that they don't run the VIN when your register a vehicle is lying to you. It has to be checked on NCIC. Their system will not let them assign a new title to someone if it comes back stolen.
They check it in New York; I worked with a guy years ago who bought a car and when he went to register it they told him it was stolen. They made him turn it in to the NYPD and the police questioned him.
We love ya Mr. Mortske. To be completely honest, I thought this whole situation was a joke until the video on the main channel rollled out. Sheesh. Hope that never happens again lol
It was explained to me. By an Officer. The police only have facts to go by. They weren't there when you bought the truck. And I guess Lawton Police were the lacking party in clearing a automobile that they send to Copart. Glad you exposed Copart as I too have looked for some deals there. Crap Companies never change.
The fact that he showed the officer emails confirming that he bought the truck at auction was enough that an investigation should have been conducted to verify his side of the story and released pending further investigation. The truck should have towed, there's no getting around that. They know who he is and have all of his information. Heck his life is out on UA-cam. If the investigation revealed that Mortske in fact stole the truck, an at large warrant for his arrest could have been issued afterwards. You don't arrest someone when you have a pretty good idea that they're innocent, especially for a clerical mistake because you have discretion as an officer to investigate first and arrest later. If investigation shows probable cause that he committed the crime, arrest him later. Now he's stuck with an arrest record for absolutely nothing he did wrong.
"I WAS FRAMED" ( The Sensational Alex Harvey Band) You shoulda listened when the Duffster growled, the canines have a certain sense about those criminal thangs as I too know from a past judicial experience
Thank you for sharing Mortske. I saw the video on the other channel hoping it wasn’t true, but you did get in back of a police car. I can tell you are shaken by the whole experience still a week later. Hopefully you can find justice with Copart and or the insurance company.
The only way for sure to find out if a vehicle is stolen is to have a police department/sheriff check the vin. That insurance site you mentioned only has vehicles that have been paid off by the insurance company. So many vehicles that are stolen don't have full coverage or no insurance and they won't be on the list. It's one of my pet peeves is not allowing the public to check if a vehicle is stolen.
A NMVTIS check will show stolen and will also tell you if the title the seller is presenting to you is valid. NMVTIS shows the title number and date issued. Those should match if you have the current title.
@@markrandall1456 "NMVTIS is a program mandated by the DOJ to collect information from Departments of Motor Vehicles nationwide." DMV cannot tell you if a vehicle is stolen or not as I know from personal experience and as Mortske stated so if that's where NMVTIS gets their info from then they won't know either.
I had one of my trucks stolen in 1999. I reported it stolen. It was never recovered. I had only liability insurance so wasn't covered. I just signed up to one of NMVTIS approved sites and paid an introductory fee of $2.95 and ran the VIN. It didn't state that it was stolen. So, there's proof it doesn't work. Useless.
@@clunkersandclassicsyou pay for & get the NMVTIS online. You are correct. The BMV, DMV, DOR M, etc won’t tell you. But yes, NMVTIS will tell you if it’s stolen.
@@markrandall1456 The public can only access NMVTIS through one of their approved sites, which I just did. No mention of stolen or not. I just spent half on hour on their chat. Their last message is: I apologize for any inconvenience. However, stolen vehicle is not yet part of the service we provide. I hope you understand. Can I help you with anything else today?
@@moremortskerepair4354 I wasn't implying that you should plate it there, but as addictive as these "will it run" videos are, my stock car trailer never got me pulled over for lack of plates on a vehicle I had just purchased. To your point though... some states do offer temporary registrations for road--worthy vehicles intended to be driven & registered out of state. Oklahoma appears to only do this directly for some commercial vehicles, otherwise a dealer purchased vehicle is the only other way this happens in that state.
Mortske I just fired off an email to hagerty they need to make you whole. I’m so tired of people not doing their job oh it slipped through the cracks. Again so sorry for your troubles. Thanks John from Arizona
I am a car dealer in Nashville. We buy all of our cars from Manheim. I have had several vehicles come back stolen that were purchased from Manheim. Most of them were repos. The repo agency didn`t report it to the local law enforcement agency when they picked it up, and the original owner reported it stolen, but the finance company didn`t know and sold it at auction. Vehicle registration in TN is handled by the Dept of Revenue and all title applications are sent through their anti theft unit before a title is issued.
Glad you have found a good friend and an extension of family in Puddin et al in Oklahoma. Finding a good church is a great thing, and I'm glad for that also. Keep doing what you do, and I wish you well.
Mr Mortski, you should never have been arrested by that policeman in the first place. Whatever happened to common sense? It was clear you were innocent by your openness, manner and actions because if you had been guilty you would have had to be one amazing actor. My thoughts from the UK.
Great video brother i emailed everyone on your list and told them they need to fix this problem for you and where it wouldn't happen to know one else and prayers for the family that hand the house burnt down love you Brother keep them coming 👍
I sent all three this email: Good day, I am a soldier in Korea currently and I watch UA-cam frequently to stay connected with home. I recently came across a Mortske Repair video where he was arrested due to someone’s negligence. His record was spotless until this happened and now he has a vehicle theft on it because he bought one of your stolen vehicle recovery items from copart. This is an in justice and needs to be made right by the responsible party, which is you. Make him whole again without prejudice. I would be a big fan of anyone who does the right thing because it is so rare these days. Best Regards SFC Sean Miller U.S.Armed Forces Korea. Hope you are vindicated brother.
Mort, I am a recently retired Major from a Sheriff’s Office. You can get this removed from your record. I have personally dealt with incidents like this before. You committed no crime, no crime occurred so this can be removed. It is the responsibility of the arresting agency. I would start with the Records Dept. Having the vehicle removed is the responsibility of the owner, Haggerty. If they didn’t report this to the entering agency it’s on them. If they did it’s on the original entering LE agency. If you showed proof of the sale on your phone, we as LE are bound to look into that info prior to formal arrest so not to arrest an innocent person. That’s also why agency’s have detectives.
Once an arrest is expunged, it’s generally removed from your public record, which means most employers, landlords, and others won’t be able to see it. However, an expunged arrest may still be visible to certain government agencies or law enforcement under specific circumstances. For example, expungement will not remove the record for high-level security checks, especially those related to federal agencies.
The arrest will never come off your record. The only way... is to have a judge seal it. Make haggerty and copart pay for that. One day of your life and distress equals a good amount of pocket change. If you don't see movement in 30 days hire a lawyer. And go for big bucks. Props to chin and the circle of friends that was there for you.
Mort, like I commented on your last video. Copart has done us like this 3 times. All 3 times we fought them and all 3 times the court found them liable and responsible for all fees and charges associated with the arrest and impound. The court ruled that Copart was supposed to have everything in order before selling a vehicle. So don't let this go. We stopped dealing with them and only buy from Manheim here in Statesville NC. I wish you the best man.
You were violated.
This!
Carvana really exemplified this type of a problem as well and made it very public as it affected direct consumers.
Like plenty of stories of women buy a car off of Carvana and get pulled over and charge with a stolen vehicle.
Just do not bend over to pick up the soap block! The amount of views will make up for your loss and this will be a good story to tell to your grandchildren.
This is crazy that they have a rep of dealing like this an haven’t done anything to stop it yet I’d definitely never deal with them for sure
As Puddin would say “Sittin in jail won’t finish your projects.”
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That’s a shirt right there!
Ouch.....
I'd sue Copart for selling you a stolen vehicle
You're a tool
Insurance companies get the cars if they get recovered after they pay off the insured
That's why some titles are branded theft recovery
Something is missing from this "story "
Many times the insurance company fails to file the paperwork or information to remove the theft designation. It’s oversight on insurance company part and copart title people just file for replacement title. It happens way to much .
@@Crazycarlisle People need to call their local PD and run the VIN before buying and verify the VIN is clean.
Definitely a dei hire that forgot to file the appropriate paperwork or simply make a phone call. Not surprising
@93z32 what do you think copart and iaa? Do? Sell insurance vehicles
Hmm think about it..
Truck gets stolen
Insurance pays the insured after a period
Truck winds up being recovered and is sent to auction house for storage until title is in hand
The issue was it shouldn't have been sold until paperwork was in place
It sounds like a insurance company is to blame
Depending on the state the title could get branded as a theft recovery
Something seems fishy if it was stolen most likely they would have busted the steering column up to start it
I've purchased theft recovery cars from RepairableVehicles in Harrisburg SD. Never occurred to me that the cars weren't cleared from police database. Thanks for the info!
You’re welcome
Lol they're right down the road from me.
As a 19 year veteran police officer/detective in a major city I would not have arrested you and or seized the vehicle. Based on the totality of circumstances I could have determined you hadn't committed a crime and the vehicle slipped through cracks with NCIC. It happens.
Thanks for the PSA so people know what to do to ensure this doesn't happen to them . Sucks to pay $1400 in fees and that doesn't include making sure it's not on the stolen vehicle list .
A lot of copart UA-camrs are like "I paid very little for these cars and got a good deal" but once you add all fees its really not.
What a fiasco for you 😟 sorry you had to deal with all this 😐 hopefully you haven’t let it dull your wit or enthusiasm. As always , much respect ✊
Much appreciated
I dealt with Copart when I ran a shop for Yellow Freight. They could mess up a two car funeral. They would sell units and "forget" to send us a check, they would have units on hand for long periods of time and "forget" they had it. Generally they were a nightmare to deal with.
That’s unfortunate
My dad and I can't register with them while having a car lot due to them demanding documents of incorporation when the business is set up as sole proprietor in my state and even trying to explain this to the nutjobs they demand documents we dont got
Sounds like stealing cars from them would be profitable. They don't even know what they have or where it is.
We sold several cars through them when we cleaned up our lot. We ended up owing them money on several of them because they sold them for less than the auction fee.
I got busted for a DUI when I was sober. The cop said I didn't pass the sobriety test. He took me to the cop shop and gave me the blow test. I was sober so he changed it to reckless driving. I had to spend the night in jail. Then go to a court house the next morning, which was 30 miles away. The judge let me out on my own recognition. Then I had to get a lawyer to resolve it, which he really didn't. I had to pay the fine & if I didn't get in trouble for a year it would be removed from my record. It cost me a lot of money for not doing anything wrong.
Very often (very, very often) criminal defense attorneys just take your retainer of thousand of dollars and then tell you they have a great plea deal for you and recommend you take it! What most of us don't know is we could of got that exact same plea offer ourselves for zero dollars. I learned that in my 20's over 35 years ago. I can almost guarantee that if you had demanded your speedy trial and taken it all the way to the day of trial, the DA would of either given you throw away plea deal just to get it off the books and keep their 96% conviction rate intact or dropped the charges completely. The whole program is a total scam
@@keithmerritt2897
You need to write a song about this story and sell it off in Nashville and get your money back.
Jelly Roll would sing out his lungs for a truthful story turned into a song.
Give it a try.
I'll bet you were drunk.
It's been said that life is 20% what happens to you and 80% how you react or respond to it. As near as I can tell you handled this about as well as anyone could be expected to, although in private I am guessing there is a lot of anger and resentment that we haven't seen. You got through it, learned a lot, unwillingly, and will recover. You have nothing to be ashamed of. Hold your head high and keep on truckin'. We all wish you the best and we will be watching. Someday you will have some good stories to tell your grandchildren. Salute!!
well said!
Helluva situation there Mortske. Thanks for “Re-living” it and explaining it all.
No worries
You and pudding are two of the realist and knowledgeable guys with the best content and I hope you both are around for a long time
Thank you
. . . . pudding is something that you give children for dessert .
they really do make a very cute couple
@@urbanurchin5930 If they eat their meat!
puddin says: "Hey buddy what you wearing , send me a picture."
Lol
I thought that was hysterical 🤣
Man, I am so glad I have friends like this.
Applause!!! Guts, your got'em. Thanks for posting for us car guys & gals. Couple years ago I made a trip to a Georgia Copart & brought back a VW Jetta diesel for a Dr. friend. Rude staff as I opened the envelop to check paper work. Rude but efficient fork driver who did place the car on my trailer. He seemed intolerant/impatient as I checked VIN & got in to start & make operational inspection. Make it back to NE Oklahoma without incident. Took them 3 weeks to send follow-up documents! Won't haul from their yard again. Some of their yards may be more business friendly, but I'll never know. As for Hagerty, most of the car clubs (ours" included) speak highly of their services. Hope this is one that isn't their fault, but paperwork happens (or doesn't). Best to you & your business!
Having also been falsely arrested and drug out of Calculus 2 in college I can wholeheartedly agree that it sticks with you and it sucks having to tell the story over and over again. Hopefully you can get your record expunged, lawyer will help with that for sure! Love your channel keep up the great work!
Damn calculus!
A lawyer should be able to get Mortske's criminal record expunged, meaning that ALL of Mortske's personal information, mugshots, fingerprints etc should be removed from ALL police agency databases. Copart/Haggerty should be financially responsible for the legal fees to accomplish this end! I suggest that Mortske or his legal counsel should contact the recent President elect with regard to this matter, I'm sure that he would have considerable empathy with Mortske's legal circumstances.
@@bobdirt1312 They just 'seal' the record, which means nothing but a request to the judge to unseal it should you ever come to their attention again. Once they get the information or put a person in the system it never goes away.
Yeah , innocent until proven guilty? You will be treated like you are guilty from now on .
Im an OTR trucker, I NEVER travel highway 54, I’m in fact sure I’d never been through there. But this week I traveled from Albuquerque to the Kansas City area. I passed the abandoned station where you worked on your truck in Mondays video. Kingman KS I believe.
Thanks for sharing
I just wrote in the comments about this very subject of towns to avoid,but your comment was better.
I'm from Kingman. That used to be a convenience store called Sav-A-Trip.
MONTREAL CANADA!! Just finished watching your video we’ve sent all three emails! Good luck and keep us posted!
Awesome thank you!
I have seven vehicles insured with Hagerty insurance for years and they have always been a great company for me ,I have to believe they will do the right thing. You have handled this whole situation and video in a very professional manner .
I hope so
@@moremortskerepair4354 i insure with them too, but please let us know who was at fault, once you know
@@moremortskerepair4354 i subed i hope you let us know even if you need to say it with out saying it but shet man i learned one thing check vin numbers even if i buy it at auction explicitly if it was stolen in past and thats why its their at said auction people are lazy and the state can mess stuff up lots of people in the paper trail .i know in tn dot gov DMV sight last i looked i could fork over money and run vin in their system dealer only i do not remember
Hope all is well no matter how long you talk. I’ll still watch your videos. You’re the type of person that makes everybody feel like they’re watching a part of the their own family. Good luck to you.
Now you know why people have been saying the system's not great and keeps you in the loop. Glad you got out, but hope it opened your eyes to what can happen!
I was one of the guys who thought if you had just had paperwork you would have been fine. Man was I wrong! I'm so sorry that you went through that. I honestly hope things work out for you and that you are made right ( at least financially) after all is said and done.
Says a lot about the common sense the police officer have to arrest you as you hold a bill of sale from the auction. I’d sue them if I had the paperwork and they still falsely arrested me. You can’t blindly trust a database when common sense says the database is wrong.
@PortlandFleetService 💯
Seriously Mortske, I would be freaked out and pissed for a while. God bless you. You are handling this like a gentleman.
You are dead on the law. I mean who hasn't watched COPS? Everyone on there is a lawyer till they are not.
@@AndyandPapa INternet is like the law dogs of legal advice
@@peterodorizzi he did handle it well but it could have been way worse it coulda been an arrogant cop that is only out to arrest everyone, he got lucky in my book, cudos to Mortsky for staying calm! ✌
Feel your pain and frustration there Sir Morticus. I was arrested for possession of a stolen vehicle. It was my vehicle that i reported stolen a month earlier to my town police. Car was recovered in my town, insurance company called me to pick it up at a tow yard in my town, tow yard had my name on their list from the insurance company to pick it up, i had the title with me. two blocks from home, pulled over and arrested. Like you said, no amount of paperwork would have got you out of it. I had the title in my name, insurance card listing the car on my insurance, receipt from the tow yard. Still spent 6 hours in jail.
Sucks
Maybe the cops choose not to use their discretion in situations like this because a "felony arrest" looks good on their records (Gold Star ⭐) and they don't really care that it's at the expense of yours??? He was smart too! He pretended to be your friend to try and avoid any direct complaint about himself! ("Oh, I'm so sorry! My hands are tied and I'm duty bound to arrest you and take you to jail for this serious felony!") 👮🏽♂🐷 Are cops automatons?? Do they have any discretion?? He could have looked at the abundantly clear evidence Mortske had on him, made sure he had insurance, understood the situation and let him get home to sort the issue out with the slack assed 'Copart' and 'Haughton Police Dept'!!! What a waste of tax payer's money, Mortske's time and money, Joe's time and money not to mention the unnecessary trauma and great embarassment caused to a law abiding citizen!
@1BIGFROGGY they probably could've just figured it out on the side of the road if the cop had been patient. Literally just call Hagerty and copart like they ended up doing anyways.
Ha!
Making Squarebody's Great Again.😊
Thanks!
Welcome!
This information is actually helpful for anyone such as myself who is a car/ truck hobbyist. Over the course of the years I've ended up with some cars/ trucks without titles. Mostly parts vehicles. I'll be looking up everything from now on. Thanks for sharing this.
I’m here to help
Glad to hear you had a great experience at Jacob's church. ❤
That fellowship is greatly needed.
Absolutely
Appreciate the video. You’re a stand up dude. We all love you man. We all feel connected to you for the small glimpse you give us into your life. We got your back. God is good! Glad we got 47! Looking forward to the giveaway on this truck.
Well said!
Mortske this video really shows character, I really admire how calm you are able to be, I hope you are able to recover the money you lost.
Thanks so much
Yes!! This could have gone really badly with the wrong attitude.
So sorry this has happened to you, my wife and I are huge fans and love watching you, keep your chin up, sending you lots of love and prayers from us all over here in England x
thank you
wow. thanks for the upload sir! Sorry you got mixed up in this mess sir! Sounds to me like copart and whomever insurance companies they work with should be responsible for eliminating these kind of problems.
Mortske Army unite!!!......Great video Mortske, very down to earth and humbling. One of the most real videos I've seen on UA-cam, hit me right in the feels!
Thank you
Having bought many many Copart and other auction cars as part of my full time gig (a bunch from OKC). Heres what I would suggest from now on be implemented into the auction system -- On theft recovery vehicles i think a separate form needs to come into play releasing the vehicles VIN from the NCIC system, almost like a lien release and be notarized and signed as part of the auction paper work given to the buyer. Im watching this situation very closely because I intentionally seek out theft recovered vehicles at auction as part of my business, they have been quite profitable for the time spent repairing them. The last thing I would ever want is one of my customers to find themselves in this type of situation, that would end my good reputation as well. I also wouldnt want myself in the same situation, I dont have a record and would be VERY unforgiving to any company that dropped the ball and put me there.
I fully agree
@@moremortskerepair4354 NCIC Release Verification form. It needs to be a thing Copart!!! Im sure all transporters would agree as well.
Hi Mort, i have just watched this in Australia - to say the least, it was a total stuff up on Coparts behalf for not having checks and balances in place to ensure this does not happen, I will be emailing just so they can see it has gone international - that surely will not go down well to know it has gone that far. all the best and keep up the great videos and what you do. look forward to more videos and more of what you do.
cheers from Down Under.
You have a positive attitude about the cops, just be cool and deal with it after the situation is over. I'm a wholesaler, sometimes I get pulled over cause the plate on the vehicle is registered to a suspended license holder. Now I strictly use my dealer plate. I'm in Washington State.
Mortske, I’m retired Law enforcement and the city agency that neglected to remove that truck from the stolen list is the culprit here. Get em! No excuse for something so simple as removing a recovered stolen from the system. Sorry you had to go through that buddy. As far as the Officer that arrested you, I understand how he may simply not have the time to do further investigation for you from a manpower view point.
I can tell you under the circumstances at my agency I’m retired from they could have called the District Attorney’s office and asked for them to submit the case instead of arresting you. Now I’m in a different state so 🤷♂️
I'm also a Retired Officer and a Special Investigator for the County P.A. and the responsibility just doesn't end with the City/County Agency. Haggerty and Co-Part SHOULD have called them ensure that it was taken off and Co-Part shouldn't have listed nor sold the vehicle until they had conformed it was taking off the SVL.
I would sue their pants off co part should have checked to make sure it wasn't stolen.
@@moley4514 Haggerty also. Ultimately Co-Part is responsible for selling it but Haggerty is still responsible too.
Sounds to me like multiple suits need to be filed and some restitution and all court and lawyer fees to be paid for by co-part/ haggerty, and the local agency that was in charge of the investigation/ recovery of said vehicle.
You , Puddin, Slick and all the rest of that group of friends is special! Good luck to you Sir.
Yes they are
Mortske you are the man, keep smiling.
God Bless u Mortske for helping out the family in need u an pudden both I'm really glad to here u say u got to church with pudden and his family makes a guy feel really good about him self I no it does me ! I'm glad u got all the charges dropped Hagerty and copart need to pay u back and some not even cool at all happy to here u got charges dropped
Thank you I appreciate it
Hey Mortske, I've worked for Minnehaha s.o. for a while now and seen guys in your situation a time or 2. Miserable situation. u are correct, there is no way of getting around what happened other than the initiating agency doing their job. Appreciate the level approach u have to this situation. Being booked brings out the worse in most people and u handled it like a gentleman. Very much appreciate your content! Keep up the great work!
Thank you
id sue SOMEONE, not sure who u should sue, i GUESS copart, AND id make SURE that it was taken off your criminal record!! Good luck man, and i have FINALLY gotten use to your personality, and i really enjoy your shows. Keep it up brother, glad you have came sooo far!!
Thanks will do
Once again, I'm sorry you went through such a traumatic event. I hope it doesn't plague you too much. Be well Mortske. Your fans stand with you.
Thank you
Sucks that happened to you and I hope you get justice, thanks for sharing this and hope you never have to deal with this again
As a reired Sergeant from a Sheriff's Office your right on all your information! NCIC and others it can be hard to clear warrants and other things. If a person comes in on a warrant and the Judge releases the individual on that warrant (s) I had to make sure it was cleared before they were released from custody. I'm glad your doing better and are finding out what went wrong.
Thanks for the info
First - emails have been sent.
Second - thanks for doing this (post, upload, whatever you call it).
I know that you will never forget the episode, but you should not let it scar you.
Keep up the good stuff.
Thank you
As I wrote in the email I just sent these folks - I had considered using copart down the road... but now - no sir.. I don't need that kind of pain. Thanks for telling the tale sir!
Thank you
I used to run the scale at a junkyard, and I used to buy vehicles from IAA and Copart quite a bit. I've had a couple come back funny, but it always gets cleared up quickly. There is usually a paperwork snafu somewhere, or it is a domestic situation where one partner got mad at the other and reported the car stolen. It's a pain in the butt, but I never got into any legal trouble over it. We would always run them through the system and immediately self report if there was any issue with the paperwork on them. You should move to Tennessee. With our title laws, possession is nine tenths of the law when it comes to classic cars.
sorry to hear Mortske, I hope you get justice. Prayers...
So happy to hear you like attending church, I hope you can find a good congregation around your area. I pray you'll look back at all this one day and laugh. Take care my friend.
Much appreciated
Dude, I'm glad you're out, home and ok. I am extremely skeptical about buying anything online like FB or CL because of something like this happening. Keep up the good work Mortskie!!! \m/
Thank you Mortske!! I will never do business with these companies if they dont try and make it right!! Also I'll be sure to spread the word! They did you dirty!!!
Feel your pain. I had an issue with my license back in 04'. Cost me 500-ish bills to get them back and shorty afterward got pulled over (in my pimped out 87 Monte Carlo Ls lowrider), deputy said my DL's came back suspended and i had a warrant. My mom had to take my pregnant girlfriend, her son, my niece and GF's cousin back home because i got arrested. Got released that night on a $500 bond, had to miss work the next day to go 40 miles out my way out get a copy of my driving record and deal with the sheriff dept over the warrant (which they said never was one). A month later went to court date stated on my paper work just to find i wasnt on the docket (found that out when the judge got done with the last case and i was still there). Judge ask if anyone had my driving record (which was a big no), handed him my copy which he looked at and immediately said dismissed, cause their wasnt ever a warrant and my license was good. I got all the bond exceot for jail fee which i should've been in the 1st place
Thanks for the great content- you go to the most extreme lengths to amuse us. No, but seriously, what an insane experience! I guess you could have gotten yourself tased, but like you said, you were amazingly lucky, calm and collected. I hope you will be successful in turning this into a net positive.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I got pissed off and started yelling at the television. I couldn't believe that Copart would put a customer in jeopardy jeopardy
Sadly it happens all the time.
I love internet "experts" that have no clue. Thanks for the update. As a person that works for a corporation, these guys don't care because it doesn't effect them personally. I am one of the people that don't think like that but see it on the daily.
Well said
Hey Mort. - since you brough up faith. yep. me too brother. the church i attend in Grand Island nebraska isn't a 'churchy church' they're a community of people who support each other and give and love. sometimes it's hard to talk about, but you're spot on with how a good church community can change a lot, including your outlook on society and life. thanks for sharing brother!
also, i'm 45 miles from york NE, feel free to get arrested here anytime (I KID I KID)
Sorry to hear of your situation you handled it very well
Love sent from Florida. Keep pushing buddy. A lot of us look up to you for inspiration.
I appreciate that
Yeah I look up to him too, one day I'll have at least half that much crap my kids have to deal with.
Mortske u r 100% rite it should have never happened
Unacceptable!!!
Keep pushing back..
Im checking from now on!
Im sorry this happened to you.
What the duff? You went through a bit of fire there. Glad you don't let it make you bitter. You get a new appreciation of Paul and Silas's story maybe? If not, then I guess you will always have Caitlyn. Happy New Year. Keep the stories coming.
Please consult an attorney! You have a major lawsuite because your civil rights were violated, your credit rating , and a felony record. Somebody has to pay for this.
I got my free mortske stickers today! Happy to support the cause! Also cool that you get to go to church with Puddin and the crew and help out the family who lost their home. Keep up the awesome content! Really enjoy it!
Thank you
Sounds like 'Raising Arizona' mr. Mortske. Glad you didn't resort to tunneling out😊
It was
Awful good breakfast flakes Mrs. McDonough
""Now, y'all who're without sin can cast the first stone..." "Turn to the right".
@@sittinandthinkin SLAVA UKRAINE
Here at the action we get paper's of registration, but we still have to take them to the registration inspection, before we can drive on the road, thanks for sharing, all the best to you and your loved ones
You really know how to tell a story. Succinct, straight to the point. No rambling
Copart would be most liable civilly. They have in the past sold vehicles "stolen recovered" and caused other people grief. They have the obligation to NOT sell stolen property!!! Hagerty also should NOT have released the vehicle to be sold prior to having it removed from N.C.I.C. (National Crime Information Center). I hope you make a lot of lemonade out of this story. I really enjoy watching your content, keep it up.
Will do
Having this follow you for the rest of your life, you deserve compensation. Nothing wrong with enjoying church. God Bless.
i think he is wrong or confused about this. it might show for a certain amount of time and then clear, or he can file for it to be cleared.
That’s the bs part of this. It shouldn’t even show up in a case like this.
@@christophers.4007still shows and if not disclosed he’ll get asked about it. I know people with past arrests from 20 years ago and have to disclose.
@@christophers.4007 Nope, he is not wrong. My wife's car was stolen but we got it back later that same day. She was arrested dropping off the kids at school about a month later for possession of a stolen vehicle. It stays on your record and there is no way to get it off. She's a Dr. and when she got her license she had to report the arrest and provide documentation it was dismissed. It won't come up in a general background check, but it will come up in whatever background check they do for Dr's, lawyers, anything that requires a security clearance.
I can tell you that I went through a similar situation. Bought a cool little S10 square body, 5speed V6 through Public Surplus. Had been gifted to a school. Had a title, which was provided to me. Went to DMV with the truck in Casa Grande Arizona. They informed me the truck was listed in Phoenix, from about 5 years before the current title was issued. Long story short, CGPD came out, inspected the vehicle...called PPD a few times, who finally admitted it was their fault because it was listed as recovered, but they never pulled it out of the system. Will probably never get rid of it now, just because of the story. All that to say this...I feel your pain!
Interesting explanation. So the lesson is: if you are buying a known stolen/recovered vehicle pay for a vehicle history scan or call the local cops to check if it is still listed as stolen or not. The other admin issues are out of your control.
Correct
Copart: Where you pay Barrett-Jackson prices for junk. An auction is a place where you compete with others to see who will pay the most for something. I want to pay the least for something. When I was a kid, I thought "If I could just have access to dealer & salvage auctions, I could make a fortune!". Then I became friends with a guy who had a dealer's license and he took me to some auctions. I immediately discovered that I could do far better buying cars from the classifieds....
This is by far your best video! Dan at DD Speed Shop is proud!
Wow, thanks!
@moremortskerepair4354 I'm just messing with you, but I bet Dan did get a chuckle out of your misfortune.
Crocs the shoes that was so welcomed they made their world debut in the movie "Idiocracy" 😆
Crocs: the shoes that ended 40 years of foot pain that never stopped thru several surgeries. Crocs are highly desirable for relief from neuropathy
Mort, brother you are a great man, heck of a mechanic, honest and humble. I can’t believe you were subjected to all this nonsense over someone else’s oversight or neglect. Prayers for you brother and we expect you to be compensated accordingly and if not us “your fans” will gladly fight with you
Thank you
Just sent the emails. Please let us know if you need record of it, or if you consider reaching out to the countless other individuals that have went through this same thing unjustly, that don’t have the voice and reach you do, and put together a class action lawsuit.
Have had dealings in the past with Copart being a wrecker operator moving vehicles bought around the state!! They’re awful!! Lawton Police is one of the worst in the State of Oklahoma. A lot of issues with them. Will email all and so sorry this happened!!!
This is the first of your videoes that have gotten in my feed. What a great adventure :D Looking forward to see the privius video
Welcome aboard!
I definitely hope they get everything straightened out with you, Mort. I'll definitely email them and pass along a good word on your behalf. They owe you an apology and MONEY BACK, in my opinion, for all the crap you went through. I've been a loyal viewer and fan for....forever, seems like, probably subscribed about 2017, i think. Keep up the great work! 👍👍
So you paid what 15 grand to go to jail when people go to jail for free ha ha ha
Thank you
Sent a note to all three emails, Mortske. Hope it helps! Good luck getting your business settled!! F’ed up!
Awesome thank you!
Email sent!
Thanks for taking time to make this video.
Thank you
You are very lucky the cop was cool and respectful, most aren't and this could have been way worse than it was, like you said a call for backup and gun drawn situation, i would definitely look into getting your record cleared, most non violent crimes can be cleared, best of luck my friend
Glad you got free , crazy story. Spent 6 years at Ft. Sill myself
Whoever told you that they don't run the VIN when your register a vehicle is lying to you. It has to be checked on NCIC. Their system will not let them assign a new title to someone if it comes back stolen.
No. It definitely does not in ND.
They check it in New York; I worked with a guy years ago who bought a car and when he went to register it they told him it was stolen. They made him turn it in to the NYPD and the police questioned him.
@@philohara8314 I confirmed and they do not check it with NCIC in ND
We love ya Mr. Mortske. To be completely honest, I thought this whole situation was a joke until the video on the main channel rollled out. Sheesh. Hope that never happens again lol
Me yoo
It was explained to me. By an Officer. The police only have facts to go by. They weren't there when you bought the truck. And I guess Lawton Police were the lacking party in clearing a automobile that they send to Copart.
Glad you exposed Copart as I too have looked for some deals there. Crap Companies never change.
The fact that he showed the officer emails confirming that he bought the truck at auction was enough that an investigation should have been conducted to verify his side of the story and released pending further investigation. The truck should have towed, there's no getting around that. They know who he is and have all of his information. Heck his life is out on UA-cam. If the investigation revealed that Mortske in fact stole the truck, an at large warrant for his arrest could have been issued afterwards. You don't arrest someone when you have a pretty good idea that they're innocent, especially for a clerical mistake because you have discretion as an officer to investigate first and arrest later. If investigation shows probable cause that he committed the crime, arrest him later. Now he's stuck with an arrest record for absolutely nothing he did wrong.
"I WAS FRAMED" ( The Sensational Alex Harvey Band)
You shoulda listened when the Duffster growled, the canines have a certain sense about those criminal thangs as I too know from a past judicial experience
Thank you for sharing Mortske. I saw the video on the other channel hoping it wasn’t true, but you did get in back of a police car. I can tell you are shaken by the whole experience still a week later. Hopefully you can find justice with Copart and or the insurance company.
The only way for sure to find out if a vehicle is stolen is to have a police department/sheriff check the vin. That insurance site you mentioned only has vehicles that have been paid off by the insurance company. So many vehicles that are stolen don't have full coverage or no insurance and they won't be on the list. It's one of my pet peeves is not allowing the public to check if a vehicle is stolen.
A NMVTIS check will show stolen and will also tell you if the title the seller is presenting to you is valid. NMVTIS shows the title number and date issued. Those should match if you have the current title.
@@markrandall1456 "NMVTIS is a program mandated by the DOJ to collect information from Departments of Motor Vehicles nationwide." DMV cannot tell you if a vehicle is stolen or not as I know from personal experience and as Mortske stated so if that's where NMVTIS gets their info from then they won't know either.
I had one of my trucks stolen in 1999. I reported it stolen. It was never recovered. I had only liability insurance so wasn't covered. I just signed up to one of NMVTIS approved sites and paid an introductory fee of $2.95 and ran the VIN. It didn't state that it was stolen. So, there's proof it doesn't work. Useless.
@@clunkersandclassicsyou pay for & get the NMVTIS online. You are correct. The BMV, DMV, DOR M, etc won’t tell you. But yes, NMVTIS will tell you if it’s stolen.
@@markrandall1456 The public can only access NMVTIS through one of their approved sites, which I just did. No mention of stolen or not. I just spent half on hour on their chat. Their last message is: I apologize for any inconvenience. However, stolen vehicle is not yet part of the service we provide. I hope you understand.
Can I help you with anything else today?
So... you hopped in an untitled, unregistered vehicle for a road trip across country, and thought, "What could go wrong?".
He f’d around and definitely found out.
How does one register a vehicle out of state?
@@moremortskerepair4354 I wasn't implying that you should plate it there, but as addictive as these "will it run" videos are, my stock car trailer never got me pulled over for lack of plates on a vehicle I had just purchased. To your point though... some states do offer temporary registrations for road--worthy vehicles intended to be driven & registered out of state. Oklahoma appears to only do this directly for some commercial vehicles, otherwise a dealer purchased vehicle is the only other way this happens in that state.
@@jgonzalez8250 Not sure I would have used those words... the circumstance got him, not his behavior.
@@tahwnikcufos driving without a tag, in my world, is a behavioral action.
Mortske I just fired off an email to hagerty they need to make you whole. I’m so tired of people not doing their job oh it slipped through the cracks. Again so sorry for your troubles. Thanks John from Arizona
Well then , I’m sure they will get his money overnighted to him since you said so. Baahaawaaaaa, omg too funny
@ better known it,lol
Thank you
Prayers for this to be settled quickly, prayers for you and good ole Duff
I am a car dealer in Nashville. We buy all of our cars from Manheim. I have had several vehicles come back stolen that were purchased from Manheim. Most of them were repos. The repo agency didn`t report it to the local law enforcement agency when they picked it up, and the original owner reported it stolen, but the finance company didn`t know and sold it at auction. Vehicle registration in TN is handled by the Dept of Revenue and all title applications are sent through their anti theft unit before a title is issued.
Glad you have found a good friend and an extension of family in Puddin et al in Oklahoma. Finding a good church is a great thing, and I'm glad for that also.
Keep doing what you do, and I wish you well.
Will do
emails sent - thinking I should not have been so polite in them but I like you try to keep as civil as possible.
Thank you
Mr Mortski, you should never have been arrested by that policeman in the first place. Whatever happened to common sense? It was clear you were innocent by your openness, manner and actions because if you had been guilty you would have had to be one amazing actor. My thoughts from the UK.
Great video brother i emailed everyone on your list and told them they need to fix this problem for you and where it wouldn't happen to know one else and prayers for the family that hand the house burnt down love you Brother keep them coming 👍
Awesome thank you!
@moremortskerepair4354 your welcome Brother
I just shared the video with a friend that works for the CEO of Coparts hopefully he can get something done💪
I sent all three this email:
Good day,
I am a soldier in Korea currently and I watch UA-cam frequently to stay connected with home.
I recently came across a Mortske Repair video where he was arrested due to someone’s negligence. His record was spotless until this happened and now he has a vehicle theft on it because he bought one of your stolen vehicle recovery items from copart. This is an in justice and needs to be made right by the responsible party, which is you. Make him whole again without prejudice. I would be a big fan of anyone who does the right thing because it is so rare these days.
Best Regards SFC Sean Miller
U.S.Armed Forces Korea.
Hope you are vindicated brother.
Thank you and thank you for your service!
Should also sue for attorney fees to have it removed from your record.
Mort, I am a recently retired Major from a Sheriff’s Office. You can get this removed from your record. I have personally dealt with incidents like this before. You committed no crime, no crime occurred so this can be removed. It is the responsibility of the arresting agency. I would start with the Records Dept. Having the vehicle removed is the responsibility of the owner, Haggerty. If they didn’t report this to the entering agency it’s on them. If they did it’s on the original entering LE agency. If you showed proof of the sale on your phone, we as LE are bound to look into that info prior to formal arrest so not to arrest an innocent person. That’s also why agency’s have detectives.
Once an arrest is expunged, it’s generally removed from your public record, which means most employers, landlords, and others won’t be able to see it. However, an expunged arrest may still be visible to certain government agencies or law enforcement under specific circumstances. For example, expungement will not remove the record for high-level security checks, especially those related to federal agencies.
I'm very glad that You put this video on telling about the details on here that I'm sure will help many others check things out before purchasing.
I hope so too!
What a story. Glad you are back and going.
Us too!
The arrest will never come off your record.
The only way... is to have a judge seal it.
Make haggerty and copart pay for that.
One day of your life and distress equals a good amount of pocket change. If you don't see movement in 30 days hire a lawyer. And go for big bucks.
Props to chin and the circle of friends that was there for you.