My custom Mini: Looks like an Orange, handles like a Lemon!
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2021
- My orange has a mean right hook. This week I finally solve the mystery of why my Amazing Outspan Orange has been pulling to the right for so many years. It takes quite an investigation but eventually I find the cause of the problem. But, will fitting some adjustable suspension parts be enough to fix the problem for good?
Edd China's Workshop Diaries 21: Amazing Outspan Orange Part 3 - classic Mini front suspension fix (How to set up adjustable castor and camber)
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Watching Edd spannering with soft jazz in the background shouldn’t be this good on paper but it’s the best 45 minutes ever. Who knew? 🤷🏻♂️
I didn't even notice that, which mean it fits perfectly 😁
why should that not be good on paper?
Pretty much everybody?😂
My guess would be...about 97.3% of us knew. ;)
@@aredub1847 Because there's some sort of cultural association between hard rock music and working on vehicles, while soft jazz is supposed to be urbane and smooth and clean. I think the association of rock with cars probably comes from the US hot rod scene in the 50s; their music was rock, their hobby was cars. I think cars (and bikes) influenced the music, encouraging the adoption of the roaring tones of hard rock and heavy metal, and today, the whole "i am metal" thing also encourages it. So I think that's about the history of it, that's it "on paper", but of course there's no actual reason the two things have to be tied together.
As for me personally, my musical tastes come from Camden Town and especially jazz radio in the 70s, rock is meaningless to me. I helped out with car maintenance a lot when I was a kid, it was cool and fun, so I'm glad I found Edd's channel with really cool car work and, *ahem* actual good music! (I intentionally phrased that offensively for all the rock guys who think they're the only people who know what good music is!
>:-D )
Just spent another 45 minutes watching repair work being done that I may never have to do and I was totally entertained
IF this was a ten hour show ,, I would not blink an eye . this man has patience the word " PATIENCE " MAN !!! Good show !!!
I have been watching this guy for a good 12 years, hes the right dude for the gig.
It's actually nice to know that even Edd can buy a load of new parts come to fit them and still run into issues, this is normally how my job's go 😂
Also, sometimes brand new parts, not oem, come with issues. I remember I once bought rear trailing arm bushes and the stupid things were a fraction of a millimetre smaller and I couldn’t use them.
Hey Edd, you were the sole reason I watched Wheeler Dealers. I live the way you explain what your doing, and the quality of your workmanship 👍🏻
The fact that these are free is awesome for such a high quality programme 👍👍
Lots of us spent our youth in the garage under our minis with bottle jacks and axle stands cursing and swearing trying to wrestle those donuts out and fitting S bits. Wonderful to go down memory lane and see it done easily and properly ! Thanks Edd!!
Just as an aside, the cabaret lounge background music played over your tinkering is a winner.
Is it 'So What?', the old Miles Davis number? 🤔
I like it a lot!
Reminds me of Wii console music. I like it.
@@EleanorPeterson I think you're right. And referring to anything from 'Kind of Blue' as "cabaret lounge background music" could get you into serious trouble in certain circles! From Wikipedia: "Kind of Blue is regarded by many critics as the greatest jazz record, Davis's masterpiece, and one of the best albums of all time."
Kudos to the camera operator, a very good bit of filming.
how much more of your amazement if you see those cameramans hanging for their lives on the Ile of Man tt Challenge.
I love the openness and honesty of these videos. He walks us through the problem, how he diagnosis it, how to fix it (wort's and all) and then when it doesn't work he shows us why and we get another video!
Edd China educating viewers in how to breathe new life into iconic and quirky aging machines is precisely why Wheeler Dealers used to be one of my favorite programs on television. It almost seems as if American television producers are actively hostile to the idea of their audience actually learning anything. Cheers on bringing it to UA-cam!
love how you show each step and explain. I think your pace is very good, I can wait to see the result because the journey is so enjoyable.
Keeps ppl IRL from getting frustrated and quitting too when their jobs don't go like the 15min videos they see
Ahhhh, zen and the art of Amazing Outspan Orange maintenance.
What's so great about this show? Ed's a bloo*# genius. Watching someone work on rusty, greasy clapped out autos is REAL. Tools, tools, tools. Finally, a reality show that shows just how much time and patience is involved in diagnosis and repair. Good onya mate!
There’s something very therapeutic about watching Ed wield a spanner or two. Brings me back to the days of my MKIIA long wheelbase Land Rover. I poured hours over that vehicle. Swapped out gearbox parts; fitted a Fairey Overdrive; Webber economy carburettor; free-wheeling front hubs; cut out panels and built compartment boxes; cut out sidewalls to fit new windows. Even wired up my own custom electronics to add auto wipers. I also had a second battery in there and dual ignition key system. Such memorable fun. Back then I was strong enough to lift the gearbox out of the chassis on my broad shoulders and lug it into the back and take it to bits. It needed a new layshaft and reverse gear idler bearing. And did the front axle UJ’s and dressed out the rust on the ball joints and re-sealed them and fabricated my own garters to prevent water rusting up the ball joint, as they hold an oil bath for the front axle UJ’s. Big-boys meccano.
I learn so much from these. It's great to have the knowledge, presenting style and camera/production quality all coming together superbly; that is a very rare combination.
Thank you.
@@eddchina I can imagine the jobs all take twice as 'kin long when done alone ;)
It's like wheeler dealers but better because we get edd to ourselves 😂❤️
"I can't not fix this". Ed, I think you just summed up why you're worth watching!
Your attention to detail in getting it just right is commendable.
Edd is truly the Bob Ross of automotive mechanics.
Edd gets to the meat of the problem and decides on a solution: "aaaaaand that, is a problem for another day!" ARRGGHH 😂
Maybe the plan is to encourage viewers to follow and watch the next episode. No need, we will always watch Edd, and would allow each episode to be completed and less frustrating.??
It would be a very long episode, so I think it was the right call. This episode is 45 min, although it didn't feel like it, is already past the UA-cam optimum length by around 2 times.
It was pretty obvious from the get go that this would be the case. Clearly the bushes were seriously compressed and distorted because the mounting bracket was out of whack and compensating with the adjustable tie rods would be a bodge ... I don’t think Edd likes bodging?😂
You see the clip nearing the end, and you're thinking how is he gonna sort that in the next 2 minutes...🤔
Ive really enjoyed watching the series so far.
Ive this year started providing a service to help fellow mini owners get full 4 wheel alignment or even just tracking done correctly. Not too surprising that many garages don’t have kit that works with 10” wheels these days with all the SUVs running on 20’s
Edd, it's good too see ya back too posting. we missed ya will be watching, thanks for showing us what's what.
Thanks for a great show Edd!
Those Flex gloves, do they really keep all that oil and grease of your fingers?
I use similar ones(but from Würth) when i work, but always end up swapping for the nitrile ones when things get greasy.
Br from Denmark
Could watch Edd all day. It’s all about the detail.
Who else nods when Edd says its time for a cuppa tea?
Always a good day when there is new edd content!
While I learn some mechanics, I improve my English. Edd has an incredible charisma, which makes each episode an entertaining class Many greetings from South America
Edd's "That's a job for another day," departure line reminds me of Jackanory, an old BBC TV teatime programme for kids, which featured a famous actor or actress reading classic stories like The Wind in the Willows straight to camera.
Each short episode ended on a cliffhanger, such as: "And as the rain stopped and the clouds parted and the sun shone down on the wreckage of Mr Toad's motor carriage, Ratty shook his head, rolled up his sleeves, and -
But that's a story for another day..."
Drove me nuts. 🐸
An actual car Chanel that teaches people where and how to repair issues this channel and chrisfix have to be the better channels on UA-cam that's for sure
I love that this is based on a mini. All those parts look very familiar to me. As for those bushes on the lower arms, it's always a good idea to have a diagonal hole in your bush.
Over 40 years ago I used to work for the Co-Op and Outspan rented some buildings and a yard from our shop on Berkhamsted High St. It was always a cheerful experience to walk by and see the Orange parked there.
I remember it well, fascinated me as child, was just thinking about that yard, sometimes there were quite a number parked up, was it the base for the fleet?
For me, this is easily the best, most professional channel on UA-cam, only trouble is time seems to speed up during the viewing.
These episodes just get better and better. The camerawork and lighting are superb -- as is, of course, the spannerwork. Keep it up, Edd!
Many years ago, when I was a kid, my dad had to replace a tie rod on his car. He told me something that has somehow stuck with me ever since--in fact, one time I had to replace a tie rod, and I made sure I did what he told me. What he said was to drop the bolt through from above, so if the nut somehow worked loose, the tie rod wouldn't fall off (and that was why I had to replace my tie rod, the bolt fell out somehow, and it fell while I was driving). So, watching you put the bolt in from below kind of surprised me. I am sure that there is no difference practically (the bouncing on the road would most likely nock the bolt loose fairly quickly), it still set me back for a moment--goes to show how deeply things you learn as a kid can shape your thinking, even on something so minor. :-)
Always thought it was good practice to have the nut on the bottom.
Morris Minor tie-rods are like that from factory. Though, with nyloc nuts now the problem is all but eliminated.
Friday afternoon on the east coast of the States now rocks with the "Workshop Diaries". It's a great way to start the weekend. Thanks Edd!
I watch Edd's show because it is about how its repaired and not a commercial, or advert for a Parts Manufacturer.
Even better than the first series of wheeler dealers @Edd China LOVE IT! Keep making these videos I love watching and learning things from you.
Edd needs to get his AskEdd section sponsored by a tea company…
…so he can give us (PG) Tips?
Milwaukee doesn't make tea.
Spiffco Yorkshire Tea.
One of the best mechanics out there
My second job was working at Midas Muffler doing shocks, brakes and exhaust, nothing more satisfying than throwing a car up on a lift and seeing a happy customer after a job well done. Edd is a master mechanic like my former boss, an absolute genius. 👍
Nooooo! Talk about an unsatisfying ending! My OCD can't bear that you just stopped having finally determined what needed to be done to fix the problem. It's like walking past a wonky picture - on purpose!
wow,i love what you doing for many years,good continuation,from a frenchy on the north of quebec,in canada
Can't wait for the next episode, it does make me smile though that you're spending so much time on the handling !
What I love is that your so calm and logical about how you find the problem and fix it. I admire that but I can’t do it. Normally I do a lot of swearing and getting upset. But I get the job done. I just admire the way you do it. 👍👍 my friend. Not many in the world can do what you do the way you do it. It’s inspiring.
27:24 - Edd, You just described exactly what I used to do as a child !!! - I used to take everything apart ! just to see how it worked and I used drive my mum up the wall !!!... especially when I took the washing machine apart lol >>>fast forward from 1983 when I was 6 to 2021 when I am now 44 and now my mum has me fixing things and mending stuff saving her a ton of cash !!! - It was a good job she let me take stuff apart so I could learn all about how it works - I can now fix things good !!!!!!
always look forward to your show Edd, love it
That forward tie rod has exactly the right "bad" angle to push the lower part of the front axle backwards to affect the caster in the way as it shows on it. Was quite obvious to see right from the start when Edd had it lifted up, looks like the makeshift frame fitting for it was welded in the wrong angle or maybe damaged and pushed back ever so slightly to affect the angle of the caster enough.
I'm glad someone else spotted the bent metalwork in the first 30 seconds. I was trying not to shout at the screen or sound like a complete k##b.
Edd's process is far more methodical, and the repair far more complete than jumping on the first error-state you see.
Edd, hats off to your camera guys. Well shot, well lit and nicely put togethet in post. They're a credit to your genius. Also I love the fact that you don't edit to much out so that we can see the real time and effort it takes to find problems. Keep up the good work!
It's always a pleasure watching work being done in a classic mini!
Just what we like Edd, mechanical work and problem solving. However I do miss the words "what's wrong with it." Well done Edd...
Used to drive my old Mini Monday to Friday and fix it on Saturday and Sunday. I could almost smell the old oil and grease around the front of that car. Nice to watch someone else doing the work though.
Sounds like some people want a quick episode where everything turns out complete and polished with a fresh wash and wax in the end. This is not Wheeler Dealers. Real mechanic work takes time and often as you start to fix things you can find more problems. Also consider he is working on multiple projects including filming, narrating and doing the actual work. Sit back, relax and chill, and realize we are lucky to have been invited into Edd's garage.
Kudos to those behind the scenes!
There is a distinct feel to the show that I like.
Sort of a 'laid back, technical intelligence' to the show.
The music choices, the editing, the filming, sound, directing.
All, first rate, IMO.
BTW - that jazz music is now stuck in my head.
☮
Brian Thwaite, the Outspan designer has also designed a very leading edge straw bale house. His design history fascinating.
Forty-five minutes! You spoil us!
It’s so great to have you back mate you where missed 😎👍
Edd mentioned racing, the first thing that jumped into my mind was this thing would be a hoot at the 24 hours of Lemons.
Underrated comment..!!
Shame we don't have anything like that here in the UK, Wish we did though
Yes! - 24hr at LeMon - Sponsored by Citroen . . . or some other little tart, both lost to an outrageous Fanta sea : )
First thing that jumped into my head was rolling 🤪
@@loddude5706 you sad
Perfect Edd China , from turkey hello.
Forgot how much i enjoy watching edd on the tools! thanks boss!
Edd China is the Grand Master Wizard of automotive mechanics
Bless you, Edd! In all these years, you've never taken a shortcut or easy workaround.
I saw this car and Edd in Camberley last weekend, he was promoting his latest book / autographs etc.
By far the best mechanic ive ever seen fixing cars wish edd lived locally to me cos if you took your car to be fixed you now EDD FIXED IT your hands are like a concert pianist your brain is an engineered space ship put together The Best
As a classic mini owner who is planning to refurbish the front suspension by changing the doughnuts and fitting HiLos etc, this episode is extremely helpful. Thanks Ed 👍🏻
I really feel for Edd on this. He came up with a clever way to compensate for that damaged bit, and it wasn't quite enough.
Interesting personal history. I was equally curious growing up and sometimes in trouble for taking things apart. I became a master auto mechanic but also worked on boats and aircraft . Eventually I returned to school and studying for many years I became a physician even an assistant professor of emergency medicine. Turns out I needed to know how we work as well. I continue to work on cars as a hobby. I must say mate you are a very fine mechanic and despite my history I learn from watching you.
SUCH A CUTE LIL THANG EDD I CRACKUP EVERY TIME I SEE IT !! God Bless All.
I have been waiting for so long to see you work on this funny looking orange. I almost lost hope. 😁😁😁😁
Originálne a zaujímavé ako vždy! Pomaranč vyzerá dobre:)
I hit a curb in my old mini and despite getting the tie rod support welded it never drove in a straight line either so it was a trip to the scrapyard to get a replacement subframe as I was a skint 18 year old
Thanks Edd, its the best thing on TV. Even though it's not on TV...
Enjoy watching Edd diagnose the problems.
Really like the length of the video almost like an episode you can sit down to with a coffee.
Yes. More Edd automotive goodness. With a slice of Zen.
Or maybe Zen, with a slice of orange?
Cool intro! That thing is insane! =) Looks like something from Florida in the 70s
An orange?
I bet it’ll be a bit warm inside there for Florida 😂
@@callumbush1 They had trucks made into oranges to deliver, well, oranges. There are still a few left around the state mostly at the gates of orange orchards??? Whatever they call them.
@@yesitreallyisme someone should save some of those trucks and restore them!
@@callumbush1 Before the rot away back to nature.
No Ant, No Mike just pure Edd on this video..
As a kid I used to walk passed a line of about 6 of these orange cars parked in station road borehamwood next to Elstree station it’s great to see Ed keeping one on the road well done mate it brings back great memories 🙏
About the question you were asked on When you started tinkering with motors..
My answer would’ve been when I couldn’t spare the money to have them professionally looked at.. 👍
Being from Syracuse New York, home of the Syracuse University Orange. That would be cool to drive around town.
Hey Edd, I never knew the Outspan was a mini underneath, love it.
I'm a lifelong mini owner myself; I believe the bolt that attaches the tie rod to the lower suspension arm should be inserted from the top, such that if the nut ever did come undone (unlikely I guess), it would be impossible for the tie rod to separate from the lower arm and cause a bad thing (there isn't enough room to remove the bolt without first separating the bottom arm from the hub - safety built in :) )
Cheers and thanks for the channel, love the rusty old stuff
I do like the real world mechanics view of the problems Edd comes across. If it were left to the twee production company chiefs on some shows they would have left all the problems on the editing floor. No names, naturally. Keep up the good work Edd. The number of views per episode shows you have the right formula.
Possibly the only other mini as customised as Binky....
Na, this one drives.... 😁
@@MattBrownbill you must be out of the loop. Binky has been to a car meet already
@@MiniMattTV Oh, I normally get notifications on youtube. Oh well.
great detective work. Obviously a poor prior repair. Looks like a quick job.
It has to be either bent back or a new piece welded in. due to the elongation, I fear that the weld option is best.
BTW I would have pressure washed the entire suspension before working on it, but that's me.
stay safe.
I was thinking the same thing, kept waiting for Edd to break out the pressure washer.
I agree, welding in a new piece of metal would fix two problems at once, it would take care of the angle and the elongated hole. It would also clean up a messy looking repair job. He should be able to cut that piece with the hole out, leaveing the sides in and weld a new flat piece of metal without much trouble.
Something different every week, superb visuals, interaction with us viewers and actually seeing things being fixed. Friday evening entertainment is a better place.
Hi Edd, thanks so much for bring these episodes to life every week. I am currently giving new life to a 1994 Landcruiser Troopcarrier and your episodes keep me motivated to get the project finished. Many thanks, Dean (AU)
The people who disliked this video - I assume that when they were rebuilding the suspension on their Outspan orange they did it differently?
Or just upset when they heard, "that's a job for another day."
Always leave them wanting more...
Its the chubby car sales man and his production crew!
@@richardknowles5874 😂😂😂😂
Half way through and I’m thinking maybe a return of the springs you commissioned for the WD Moke?
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing
Or maybe call in those two guys from Shropshire that know a thing or two about highly customized minis? (If you haven’t realized by now, I’m talking about Bad Obsession Motorsport)
I don't know if this is the only Outspan Orange car in existence, but one used to be owned by the people who lived in the house opposite mine, for several years, it did cheer up the place, quite cool to see it in such detail.
Went from working on the suspension on a Mini to --------- working on the suspension of a Mini lol. Love the channel - Ty Ty
would this car be light enough to get your patented dealers weelers mini moke springs ubgrade in place of those of those rubber buns?
I get so upset when the sentence "that's a job for another day" is uttered
agreed but atleast it gotten better the last episodes (more progress in each episode) if u would gone back a few episodes he would have cut it when he had to buy the new parts.
happy improvements :D
So true!
He’s even giggling when he says that.
Yep, it would be nice to see the job completed
The last 3 videos he has not finished shit come on man finish one before you start another fuck
This was fun to watch, but I get the feeling Edd REALLY just wanted to throw some new, adjustable suspension in the car. He knew all along that he'd have to fix that bracket.
Just shy of a million subscribers Ed - time for one of the networks to get this on the telly. Outstanding work Sir 👏👏
I have been waiting for the new episode of Range Rover in the MOT, but this helps too.
The MOT tester is still typing in the list of failed items.......
@@ehamster was going to say the same...
@@ehamster haha that made me laugh.
In the WD-series, you designed a bespoke suspension replacement part for thé Moke. Why don't you use it on the Orange?
We did indeed and we could have designed a set especially for the weight of the Outspan. Maybe it will become a job for another day!!
If you’re talking about the coil spring replacement, no-one uses them, they’ve been known to seriously damage other components because they get coil bound. Rubber is the best thing for a mini
Good, I'm glad you are going to fix the issue. I was a little disappointed at the start when you said the "adjustable" would get over the problem. A bodge always has to fixed. Great video, great music 🎶, 👍👌👏🙏
Can't remember the last time I got to the end of a youtube video and thought "awe man!" when there was a 'to be continued". Well done. 👍 Subscribed.
edd you are a bad boy tie rod bolt must go nut on bottom so you do not lose the tie rod if the nut comes off
Lesson learned at the end of this episode: you can't work around a damaged frame or subframe, you have to fix that first!
The best elements of Wheeler dealers, concentrated and improved. Loving it Edd, thank you.
#MilwaukeeChristmas this is my favorite episode so far. Lovely to learn about a quirky piece of automotive history. All the best!
Edd you put the bolt from the Ti-rod in the wrong direction, upside down. The nut should be sitting down. If you loose the nut the bolt still will keep the ti-rod in place, and the car wil not be crashing.
I spotted that as well but assumed that was the spec. not ever owning a Mini.
It looks as though there isn’t enough clearance to get the bolt pushed in from above.
@@Theyardonthehill before you fit the hub back together you have to put the bolt in the lower arm and ti rod
@@StefanMiniCooper way too much work.
@@Theyardonthehill not really that much, just pop off the lower ball joint👍been there done that