Interesting video, it would be great to do a run with luggage and passengers, although I have noticed with my Fiat 500e that with two of us and luggage for a weeks holiday it made no difference to range. My thoughts are that what you loose up hill you gain going down. Bjorn Nyland did a test with bottles of windscreen washer fluid and found very little difference in a Kia Soul.
Test was made by a french channel using a Hyundai Ioniq 28 - The most efficient car ever built - and drove two of them across town and highway. The first one unloaded with 1 driver, the second with 260 kgs of passengers and luggage (Car is 1595 kgs). It made no difference in any of the sections with an average of 12-13 kwh / 100 kms.
No difference, physics. On highway at these speeds weight has a marginal role. Wind and air resistance, wet roads and tires. And of course the effeciency of the motor. Weight - about 5% if at that
@@SNORKYMEDIA The £57k base model is also really lacking in equipment. No ACC and automated wipers on a c. £60k car is a disgrace. When I specced one to a semi acceptable level it came out at over £62k 🙃
i would call that useful range at a decent compromise when it comes to speed. the consumption isn't small but that is understandable since its a van(they don't exactly get stellar consumption even with a diesel model).
Thank you for this interesting test with the good range result under those conditions. My Cargo can do even a bit better because it’s lighter and I’m driving with allweather tires.
Nice test. For the price of the Buzz I need a much larger range at 70mph. I like the Buzz, I nearly ordered it until I found out everything is an optional extra such as it only comes with a 10inch screen and you have to pay extra for the 12 inch screen. If the Buzz was £50k with massage seats, 2 tone paint, 12 inch screen then I would have got one regardless of the poor range... But buying a vehicle for more than £50k that doesn't have access to the supercharger network is rather stupid in the UK.
This was a very insightful video and these are the speeds I travel at so I found it very useful. I really want an electric car for many different reasons, however the main reason has always been for cheaper fuel. I'm from the UK and my energy company charge me £0.34 per kwh (for me it also isn't any cheaper at night), so this would cost me £26.18 to travel 180 miles. Whereas my 2004 diesel VW touran would get me over 200 miles for the same cost. I think a lot of current electric cars are great for driving around cities where they are much more efficient at lower speeds but as much as I really want an electric car (especially the new ID 2!) I really want to see companies advance there batteries like Tesla, or even like Dyson tried to with solid state packs
Great video as always. 270Wh/km at only 110kmh, jeez. Yeah yeah I know, a van... but still 300km at that rather low range that is really not great. At 110kmh I want to be able to drive at least 400 if not 500km, because I want to do at least 4-5h on the first leg. In my Model 3 LR I can do 110kmh at 0 Degrees with app. 160 Wh/km flat road. So for a new battery that is 470km, in summer I need 130Wh/km and that means 575km. 🤷♂️ But for others it might be an interesting car. For me it is too expensive for what it is, though.
@@kreidefelsen yeah but that makes little difference ... passengers and normal luggage does not matter much for consumption. it is already bad as it is :)
@@tesla-spectre I highly doubt that! Weight does A LOT of difference to range on every EV. Edit: yes, it is already bad because this thing was empty :)
@@kreidefelsen You are wrong because with those heavy EVs the additional weight is just a minor percentage that contributes to rolling resistance, but at autobahn speeds the air resistance is predominant.
This is just physics, you can’t expect a van to have car like consumption. Your low slung M3 will obviously consume less, in the same way my diesel car uses half as much diesel compared to my T5 van.
Vans often have large consumption when they are diesel or petrol so an EV Van...couldn't expect it to match a car. It should cost a lot less to operate than the average van.
You can get a decent Diesel Van for 20k whereas a decently specd Buzz costs 70k. If you're decision is solely based in cost you get the diesel /petrol van
110km is a more realistic speed. Fast enough to get you where you need in a timely manner, fast enough to not peeve other motorists while you're in slow lane.
@@BatteryLife that's a very good point. I've always put my cupra born into range mode and d and never considered it not having an effect. Does it make much difference when coasting downhill?
170 miles is just not enough for many especially in the american market, VW have to offer it with a bigger pack especially when they launch the longer wheel base version, there's just a few things that I really do not like about this, and i am thinking more along the lines of a mobility assist, the reduced wheel base makes it really awkward for lifts to be installed, it lacks high clearance as well as width from the doorway, boot space is quite frankly ill designed more aka to the commercial version, the step boot option is a terrible design able body individual will just be inconvenienced but from a wheel chair extremely challenging to load goods its just to high and makes you rely on others to load your chair. it doesn't fold up or drop down if not needed,
@@BatteryLife Yes, you are right. But just the Buzz I would like to see with a few 100 kilo weight as a test. For some reason, no one does that on youtube. (at least I haven't seen anything about it so far).
@@kreidefelsen It will hardly make a difference when going at more or less constant speed and on flat ground. Bjørn Nyland did a test with 400 kg in a Kia Soul and could not even measure any significant change in consumption. Of course, the story changes when you do a lot of stop-and-go driving in a city, let alone when you go up a significant elevation.
That range is very similar to what I get from our 58kwh ID3 at similar speed and conditions. Definitely good enough.
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Interesting video, it would be great to do a run with luggage and passengers, although I have noticed with my Fiat 500e that with two of us and luggage for a weeks holiday it made no difference to range. My thoughts are that what you loose up hill you gain going down. Bjorn Nyland did a test with bottles of windscreen washer fluid and found very little difference in a Kia Soul.
Test was made by a french channel using a Hyundai Ioniq 28 - The most efficient car ever built - and drove two of them across town and highway. The first one unloaded with 1 driver, the second with 260 kgs of passengers and luggage (Car is 1595 kgs). It made no difference in any of the sections with an average of 12-13 kwh / 100 kms.
No difference, physics. On highway at these speeds weight has a marginal role. Wind and air resistance, wet roads and tires. And of course the effeciency of the motor. Weight - about 5% if at that
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I really don't think nearly 300 km in winter is bad. Great car IMHO
it needs to be incredible for an entry price of £57K. double the price of a transporter
@@SNORKYMEDIA The £57k base model is also really lacking in equipment. No ACC and automated wipers on a c. £60k car is a disgrace. When I specced one to a semi acceptable level it came out at over £62k 🙃
For the price it is a joke, at these low speeds
I loved the Buzz until I saw the price. Sorry but this is way too expensive for what it delivers, also considering how limited the range is.
i would call that useful range at a decent compromise when it comes to speed. the consumption isn't small but that is understandable since its a van(they don't exactly get stellar consumption even with a diesel model).
I've liked the look of the VW Buzz since it was launched although I don't think it would fit in my garage quite as well as my Fiat 500e!
Pretty good consumption nice test.
Love the video, short concise and to the point. Look forward to your future videos!
Like the extra info on the dash. Hope to get OTA for that soon!
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Bravo, Chris.
Hm, do you think your pups would like the Buzz? Nice and airy cabin.
No, they don't need a lot of space.
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Thank you for this interesting test with the good range result under those conditions. My Cargo can do even a bit better because it’s lighter and I’m driving with allweather tires.
Hey man, have you thought about doing a range test for the i4 eDrive35? AFAIK no one else has done it before. Looking forward to it…
I think it will be useful to add start battery temp
Nice test. For the price of the Buzz I need a much larger range at 70mph. I like the Buzz, I nearly ordered it until I found out everything is an optional extra such as it only comes with a 10inch screen and you have to pay extra for the 12 inch screen. If the Buzz was £50k with massage seats, 2 tone paint, 12 inch screen then I would have got one regardless of the poor range... But buying a vehicle for more than £50k that doesn't have access to the supercharger network is rather stupid in the UK.
This was a very insightful video and these are the speeds I travel at so I found it very useful. I really want an electric car for many different reasons, however the main reason has always been for cheaper fuel. I'm from the UK and my energy company charge me £0.34 per kwh (for me it also isn't any cheaper at night), so this would cost me £26.18 to travel 180 miles. Whereas my 2004 diesel VW touran would get me over 200 miles for the same cost. I think a lot of current electric cars are great for driving around cities where they are much more efficient at lower speeds but as much as I really want an electric car (especially the new ID 2!) I really want to see companies advance there batteries like Tesla, or even like Dyson tried to with solid state packs
outside temperature was around 10 degrees ? i saw , 2 to 5 degrees, does not help for the consumption, not 20 degrees which would be better.
Great video as always. 270Wh/km at only 110kmh, jeez. Yeah yeah I know, a van... but still 300km at that rather low range that is really not great. At 110kmh I want to be able to drive at least 400 if not 500km, because I want to do at least 4-5h on the first leg. In my Model 3 LR I can do 110kmh at 0 Degrees with app. 160 Wh/km flat road. So for a new battery that is 470km, in summer I need 130Wh/km and that means 575km. 🤷♂️
But for others it might be an interesting car. For me it is too expensive for what it is, though.
This 👆 And as a reminder, the car was completely empty.
@@kreidefelsen yeah but that makes little difference ... passengers and normal luggage does not matter much for consumption. it is already bad as it is :)
@@tesla-spectre I highly doubt that! Weight does A LOT of difference to range on every EV. Edit: yes, it is already bad because this thing was empty :)
@@kreidefelsen You are wrong because with those heavy EVs the additional weight is just a minor percentage that contributes to rolling resistance, but at autobahn speeds the air resistance is predominant.
This is just physics, you can’t expect a van to have car like consumption. Your low slung M3 will obviously consume less, in the same way my diesel car uses half as much diesel compared to my T5 van.
This vehicle really deserved a 100kwh battery
about 300km is ok - nice car
Vans often have large consumption when they are diesel or petrol so an EV Van...couldn't expect it to match a car. It should cost a lot less to operate than the average van.
You can get a decent Diesel Van for 20k whereas a decently specd Buzz costs 70k. If you're decision is solely based in cost you get the diesel /petrol van
@@Scrap-press I'm assuming that if you do A LOT of mileage then it might work out :-)
@@Scrap-press please show me a 20k new diesel van and I'll eat my hat
110km is a more realistic speed. Fast enough to get you where you need in a timely manner, fast enough to not peeve other motorists while you're in slow lane.
The standard 130 kmh test that you do in all EV should also be done here
If I get the car again, I will.
@@BatteryLife cool
Great video, your final data list says the vehicle has a heat pump, is this correct and if so do all ID Buzz’s have them?
That is correct. You can order it.
No heatpump available!
@@BatteryLife I have no option to order a heat pump?
1:56 Great video. What’s that pool that you have on the back sea
t with the go pro?
The pole on the back seat is for the GoPro
@@BatteryLife I saw that. Can you tell me where did you got it?
Why are you driving it on the autobahn in B mode?
I always drive in B. Since I used Cruise Control it has no impact at all.
@@BatteryLife that's a very good point. I've always put my cupra born into range mode and d and never considered it not having an effect.
Does it make much difference when coasting downhill?
170 miles is just not enough for many especially in the american market, VW have to offer it with a bigger pack especially when they launch the longer wheel base version, there's just a few things that I really do not like about this, and i am thinking more along the lines of a mobility assist, the reduced wheel base makes it really awkward for lifts to be installed, it lacks high clearance as well as width from the doorway, boot space is quite frankly ill designed more aka to the commercial version,
the step boot option is a terrible design able body individual will just be inconvenienced but from a wheel chair extremely challenging to load goods its just to high and makes you rely on others to load your chair. it doesn't fold up or drop down if not needed,
Nice video. Does it have heatpump?
Yes
Perhaps I am wrong but ID. Buzz delivered to Norway does not have heatpump.
NO!
simply unacceptable for a car that cost well over 75.000€
And this again: a range test with an empty Buzz. I´m still waiting for a more "realistic" test with even some load... Thanks anyway!
You can ask that with every car. But how much weight?
@@BatteryLife Yes, you are right. But just the Buzz I would like to see with a few 100 kilo weight as a test. For some reason, no one does that on youtube. (at least I haven't seen anything about it so far).
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@@kreidefelsen It will hardly make a difference when going at more or less constant speed and on flat ground. Bjørn Nyland did a test with 400 kg in a Kia Soul and could not even measure any significant change in consumption. Of course, the story changes when you do a lot of stop-and-go driving in a city, let alone when you go up a significant elevation.
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