I think you're right about to much power for this kind of car. It's more like a proof of concept. Even the first Buzz with the ID3 201HP motor was fast enough for a bus. But now with the new motor with 280hp it'll really be more then enough to accelerate unexpectedly fast in traffic for others. I've had a T5 with 130hp manual and it took like 14s to 100km/h ? This is just crazy fast. We have an ID3 and AWD Ioniq 5 and couldn't be happier. Thanks for your balances reviews
I hope the next-gen LFP batteries find this van quickly. Not interested in NMC anymore. BYD can already have 87kWh of first-gen Blade battery in Seal U. Would like to see it here. Also I have no idea what's so difficult to make camp mode for a car made for camping
Great review, much better layout for 7 seats than an electric SUV, the price will kill it's appeal, one fir the Jones. Is this a commercial vehicle with all that weight plus passengers.
@@NobbyOnCars You're wrong. Short wheel base GTX is 1800, LWB GTX 1600, non-GTX 1000 kg according to spec sheet. However, there are rumours that it will change once approved.
I heard that VW is going to introduce a 53-ish kWh battery. I'm not convinced it'll come soon enough. Sure if VW can make a faithful and affordable ID BUZZ like its Type2 sake, they would improve efficiency and overlap the prices with the ID4. VW should offer a 2+1 front bench and a 3rd row for the Short Wheel Base. If they can't do that bare minimum then I'm absolutely bored with VW. 7 years since the BUZZ concept and for what? A wealthy family's/boss' statement piece?
I dont agree... same way you can challenge any kind of Range Rover or BMW X5M. with more and more EVs on the market sub 10sec 0-60 is fairly normal. And don't forget that this still can be a daily and bring some pleasure from driving. Also.. this 0-60 was measured with only driver on board and no luggage. add, seven people and a trailer and it will be different ;)
Tailbone issues?????? For those of you who sit on any type of cushion for butt, back or tailbone relief support, THE ADAPTIVE CRUISE CONTROL WILL NOT WORK!!!!!!!. It will display a prompt that says, “No driver detected“. This is a real drag for those of us who sit on cushions when we drive. Do any of you smart engineer types have a solution for this problem? Surely, there must be a sensor that can be overrided???? Maybe the sensor is body-heat activated????? This does not affect the regular cruise control (which can be used at speeds as low as 15mph). Only the adaptive cruise control. Anybody have any suggestions?
I like the car, quite a lot. A few things are not perfect like the interior seats being less practical than in the Multivan. However 87kwh in this size of a vehicle!? Really pathetic effort and makes it obsolete before it hits the market, VW really don’t learn from their mistakes 😒
@@michaelridler5119 sure, I am aware it is possible, I have made many a long jurney with standard range teslas, my argument is it does not make it a compelling product at that price point. If you travel at 135kph in the French autorute in winter with a fully loaded car (as I suppose you do) you are stopping every 200km or 1.5 h driving, that just doesn’t cut it in this day and age and at that price… in a car made for long road trips… terrible imho
Sportier? Maybe. But, at least to me, this GTX variant loses some of the charm which the original iteration exuded. The pseudo Golf R front bumper--really? And while the interior definitely has a more sporty look, is that what you would buy a Buzz for? It's a bit like seeing your grandmother, who was already cool for her age, show up wearing leathers and sporting a pierced septum. It's just another example of trying too hard and being caught at it.
So what’s more eco friendly than the Buzz? My 2003 Nissan Elgrand which, after all those years, is still going strong, was MUCH cheaper, seats 8, and has much more space than the VW. Would like to see what happened to this Buzz after 21 years!
The fact that VW doesn't offer the BUZZ with its commercial's 2+1 front bench or a 3rd row.in short wheel base form just shows how little VW are trying. It's not the fault of being an EV. It's a fault of excess and profit gouging a retro icon Much like the NewBeetle
This kind of car must offer big battery, long range, comfort and maybe quick charge. You will not do drags with a van. So it's kind of useless to have so many bhp.
You can use it...but there is no must. Usually you use only a little bit of the engines power...not comparable to an ICE...forget what you have learned. The power is not the same like for ICEs...you get it easily by any electric engine and power of the battery. AND...if you limit the power...you limit the power of the regen, too.
@@josefv-y8m That was not the point. It costs to put more BHP and they are not required for such a car. Of course you can use them or not, but better invest in battery pack and other features than to make a hot wheels van.
Increased efficiency is always better, but has nothing to do with the power of the engine. Can be seen here, too...the new APP550 with 286hp is more efficent than the old one with only 204hp. Teslas are the most efficient and have a lot of power... All you have learned for ICEs...forget about it, since an electric engine just delivers very low power and has low consumption, if you do not ask for more. AND...if the engine is weak, you are limited in regen, too. A Taycan for example can regen at 400kw, due to the strong motor, and in most cases it needs no friction brakes at all.
I'd normally agree about the power in this EV but isn't it required for those people with loads of people and stuff onboard and pulling the caravan? Otherwise, they'd get stuck at 10 mph driving up the hilly roads in places like Wales.
There is a real engine...it is called electric engine, which is much more efficient, than pounding pistons. Buy a Multivan instead, if you need an ICE Car...
VW is seriously shoving the Buzz and MEB platform in the wrong trajectory. Have the Halo car/bus, it's hot sure 🥱. But the explicit lack of focus on accessibility and good value affordability will be VW's downfall especially with Chinese EVs. I'd honestly say the same thing with Toyota's newest Prius.
If BYD would bring something similar 30% cheaper with Blade 2.0, it could be game over. What amaze me, is German manufacturers are still offering 2 years warranty on cars. I have more on a dishwasher. My Toyota has 10 year limited warranty from service to service
I think you're right about to much power for this kind of car. It's more like a proof of concept. Even the first Buzz with the ID3 201HP motor was fast enough for a bus. But now with the new motor with 280hp it'll really be more then enough to accelerate unexpectedly fast in traffic for others.
I've had a T5 with 130hp manual and it took like 14s to 100km/h ? This is just crazy fast.
We have an ID3 and AWD Ioniq 5 and couldn't be happier. Thanks for your balances reviews
I hope the next-gen LFP batteries find this van quickly. Not interested in NMC anymore. BYD can already have 87kWh of first-gen Blade battery in Seal U. Would like to see it here. Also I have no idea what's so difficult to make camp mode for a car made for camping
Looks great.
Shame you can only get 4WD in the GTX. I live in the country and really want a 4WD, but you’re right it doesn’t need 300+BHP.
My ideal would be 4 motion 5 seats 86kwh battery
I must be getting old
The twin turbo supra had 320bhp
Now a 7 seater vw ev people carrier has more😮
Now that’s a car…. 😎
Насколько я понял будут варианты с одним и двумя двигателями?
Is there a box set of episodes?: Complete Nobby on Cars? something like that?
7:38 I think that's an Ice scraper and I think the other one was a bottle opener
it is!
Great review, much better layout for 7 seats than an electric SUV, the price will kill it's appeal, one fir the Jones. Is this a commercial vehicle with all that weight plus passengers.
But no “camping mode” for sleeping inside..?
VW needs to add camp mode for car camping--- and vehicle to load🎉
Nice, but I will wait for the phev.
I think you’ll be waiting…
@@NobbyOnCars Don't bet on it ; )
Good to see some windows for the passengers in the back.
The Buzz can become stranded on a loose surface with an incline so this will be helpful.
You got the towing capacities wrong.
The GTX is the version that Can pull the most.
The GTX can pull 1800 kg
The LWB pull 1600, GTX or otherwise. Normal wheelbase is 1800.
@@NobbyOnCars You're wrong. Short wheel base GTX is 1800, LWB GTX 1600, non-GTX 1000 kg according to spec sheet. However, there are rumours that it will change once approved.
I heard that VW is going to introduce a 53-ish kWh battery. I'm not convinced it'll come soon enough.
Sure if VW can make a faithful and affordable ID BUZZ like its Type2 sake, they would improve efficiency and overlap the prices with the ID4.
VW should offer a 2+1 front bench and a 3rd row for the Short Wheel Base.
If they can't do that bare minimum then I'm absolutely bored with VW. 7 years since the BUZZ concept and for what? A wealthy family's/boss' statement piece?
53-ish kWh?...you would likely pull that Airstream about 40 miles I'm thinking.
Sadly the best feature of the ID Buzz - a non-black interior is lost :( I am bored rigid by hot black interiors on almost every car.
0-100? 7sec?
I dont agree... same way you can challenge any kind of Range Rover or BMW X5M. with more and more EVs on the market sub 10sec 0-60 is fairly normal. And don't forget that this still can be a daily and bring some pleasure from driving. Also.. this 0-60 was measured with only driver on board and no luggage. add, seven people and a trailer and it will be different ;)
true true
Tailbone issues?????? For those of you who sit on any type of cushion for butt, back or tailbone relief support, THE ADAPTIVE CRUISE CONTROL WILL NOT WORK!!!!!!!. It will display a prompt that says, “No driver detected“. This is a real drag for those of us who sit on cushions when we drive.
Do any of you smart engineer types have a solution for this problem? Surely, there must be a sensor that can be overrided???? Maybe the sensor is body-heat activated????? This does not affect the regular cruise control (which can be used at speeds as low as 15mph). Only the adaptive cruise control. Anybody have any suggestions?
What was the model of the airstream that was shown?
No idea sorry
Thanks for the response. Love the channel
After all this innovation and still doesn't come close to the Japanese Alphards
range is not acceptable. It should be minimum 350 WLPT
I like the car, quite a lot. A few things are not perfect like the interior seats being less practical than in the Multivan. However 87kwh in this size of a vehicle!? Really pathetic effort and makes it obsolete before it hits the market, VW really don’t learn from their mistakes 😒
My ID buzz has 77KWh and it’s fine, does everything we need it to do, including taking us to the Alps ( from London) at Easter.
@@michaelridler5119 sure, I am aware it is possible, I have made many a long jurney with standard range teslas, my argument is it does not make it a compelling product at that price point. If you travel at 135kph in the French autorute in winter with a fully loaded car (as I suppose you do) you are stopping every 200km or 1.5 h driving, that just doesn’t cut it in this day and age and at that price… in a car made for long road trips… terrible imho
Sportier? Maybe. But, at least to me, this GTX variant loses some of the charm which the original iteration exuded. The pseudo Golf R front bumper--really? And while the interior definitely has a more sporty look, is that what you would buy a Buzz for? It's a bit like seeing your grandmother, who was already cool for her age, show up wearing leathers and sporting a pierced septum. It's just another example of trying too hard and being caught at it.
92000 euros🙄🙏
So what’s more eco friendly than the Buzz? My 2003 Nissan Elgrand which, after all those years, is still going strong, was MUCH cheaper, seats 8, and has much more space than the VW. Would like to see what happened to this Buzz after 21 years!
How many 2003 VWs do you see left on the road? ...
The fact that VW doesn't offer the BUZZ with its commercial's 2+1 front bench or a 3rd row.in short wheel base form just shows how little VW are trying.
It's not the fault of being an EV. It's a fault of excess and profit gouging a retro icon
Much like the NewBeetle
Plenty
@@NobbyOnCars how many electric vehicles will be around when they’re 20 odd .
Well we haven't got to that level of time yet but I'm not seeing the same level of doom as yourself.
This kind of car must offer big battery, long range, comfort and maybe quick charge. You will not do drags with a van. So it's kind of useless to have so many bhp.
You can use it...but there is no must. Usually you use only a little bit of the engines power...not comparable to an ICE...forget what you have learned.
The power is not the same like for ICEs...you get it easily by any electric engine and power of the battery.
AND...if you limit the power...you limit the power of the regen, too.
@@josefv-y8m That was not the point. It costs to put more BHP and they are not required for such a car. Of course you can use them or not, but better invest in battery pack and other features than to make a hot wheels van.
Agree with the speed being unnecessary. 4wd with a reduced power and an increase efficiency would be better.
The motors wont be more efficient with less power.. Aerodynamics, overall vehicle efficiency and battery capacity is what matters
Increased efficiency is always better, but has nothing to do with the power of the engine. Can be seen here, too...the new APP550 with 286hp is more efficent than the old one with only 204hp.
Teslas are the most efficient and have a lot of power...
All you have learned for ICEs...forget about it, since an electric engine just delivers very low power and has low consumption, if you do not ask for more.
AND...if the engine is weak, you are limited in regen, too.
A Taycan for example can regen at 400kw, due to the strong motor, and in most cases it needs no friction brakes at all.
I'd normally agree about the power in this EV but isn't it required for those people with loads of people and stuff onboard and pulling the caravan? Otherwise, they'd get stuck at 10 mph driving up the hilly roads in places like Wales.
That’s true I guess
Still too expensive.
It should be a real engine in this
A crappy VW diesel that they cheated the emissions testing with you mean?….
There is a real engine...it is called electric engine, which is much more efficient, than pounding pistons.
Buy a Multivan instead, if you need an ICE Car...
Oh yeahhh, with a sub 300 km true range ??? Who cares...
Thanks for your input…..
It says it’s got a 400km range.
😮 looks stupid
Have you seen electric car sales figures, reached a plateau at best . Electric is not, and can never be the answer.
Have you seen all the misinformation I wonder why. I don't even drive an ev and I can see it.
2024 has been the second strongest year of EV sales in Ireland, that’s all I know.
I have a ID buzz 1st edition, it’s great! 250mile range is fine. We drove it from London to the Alps at Easter and it was fine.
Nope!😂
Just wait the oil run out… fo you take a bisycle or Horse or EV…
Hmmm…
VW is seriously shoving the Buzz and MEB platform in the wrong trajectory.
Have the Halo car/bus, it's hot sure 🥱. But the explicit lack of focus on accessibility and good value affordability will be VW's downfall especially with Chinese EVs.
I'd honestly say the same thing with Toyota's newest Prius.
If BYD would bring something similar 30% cheaper with Blade 2.0, it could be game over. What amaze me, is German manufacturers are still offering 2 years warranty on cars. I have more on a dishwasher. My Toyota has 10 year limited warranty from service to service
@timogronroos4642 you get an 8 year warranty on the battery on these.