SawStop Jobsite Saw Pro | Unboxing | Setup | First Thoughts
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- Опубліковано 12 лют 2022
- In this video, I unbox, set up, and share my first thoughts on the SawStop Jobsite Saw Pro. Yes, it’s an older saw, but it checks out.
Corrections ಠ_ಠ:
6:45 - The fence comes with the saw, not the blade obviously.
10:16 - The blade is still spinning, not the saw. That would be crazy if the saw was spinning... (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
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UPDATE: I had a chance to unbox my SawStop a few days after watching this video. I reiterate, without watching your video, I can say with near certainty that I wouldn’t have removed the shipping pin. Even knowing it was there, and having the instructions in front of me, I missed the stop that instructed me to move the blade to 45°, therefore making it impossible to see the red tape and pin. I also took the time to read the user’s manual - a worthwhile read to save myself money due to improper use, in the future. THANK YOU!
Very helpful video. The humor - well…I’m glad he had fun. 🤷♀️ I’m glad I watched this. Without having watched, there’s a good chance I might have missed the shipping pin. That would have been an expensive lesson. If I’m honest, seeing that there were such few parts to install, I might not have made it past the quick set-up guide. Now I’m more inclined to read the manual to learn about other features and how to use them properly. I’m looking forward to unboxing my own. Thanks 🙏
Absolutely love this video!! Especially loved the fun spin and humor you put into it. Thank you!
Hands down the best SawStop video on you tube ! Great work brother. Stay safe
Daver.........very nice review. Well organized and clear. Thanks for putting this together.
I enjoyed it, as watching you prevented me from making mistakes while I set up mine.
This is great, keep up the good work man!
Thanks!
Great video! Thank you! I’m buying one for sure!
I was very irritated that every time I locked down the rip fence it would move just a fraction. Quite a hair pulling experience when needing absolute precision. Then I found a video showing that you simply pull the fence forward as your locking it. Now I love the saw
I’ve had mine for a month or so and yes, my table was not flat. I was able to return it for a more flat table. My store’s display saw was an older version and the table was flat. My new saw table is still not flat, but it’s much closer and workable. Keep in mind, a nonflat table near the throat will produce an off square cut, especially on narrower boards.
Thanks for the video, here is my experience:
I purchased a new SawStop JSS Pro a few months back. During the set up I discovered the throat/blade insert slot was cut off center by 1/4". Called Saw Stop immediately.. they would send a replacement.
Next during assembly I discovered the top was grossly warped.. as much as 157 thousands... that is well over an 1/8th inch..
Not "the most accurate job site saw" as advertised by Saw Stop. Another phone call(s)
Over a 3 day period the worst customer service I have encountered from a manufacturer.
I contacted the seller, they intervened and the saw was returned. The dealer confirmed the warp in all directions.. clearly a manufacturing defect. The dealer refunded my money.. They had no other saw in stock
Saw Stop agreed with the dealer to trade for the defective saw .. that took over 2 months.
Finally the dealer had a new saw in stock. I went back ( this is a 200 mile round trip for me to the closest dealer)
We unboxed the saw and confirmed it was within .008". Not as flat as my metal tabled saw but by Saw Stop's own standards... (33 thou " ) not defective. I bought the saw.
It will take the place of my massive professionally made 37 year old 12 ", 3hp 3 belt drive long rail, sliding table .. until I get my new shop built.
I was considering an equivalent new saw from Saw Stop to take the place of my beloved older saw.. we'll see.
Now that Festool has taken over and is ( in my opinion) in collusion with dealers to price fix (which they incorrectly call "fair trade" ) as they do with their own tools, .. not so certain.
My conclusion:
The saw is adequate and grossly overpriced given the quality. As an example the fence adjustments are mickey mouse.
I wanted the safety feature so sacrificed the much better quality of a Makita which was $500 less.
I now have the saw but have yet to put it to real use...I'll post again with my findings.
I’m sorry to hear that, sounds like a headache. Thanks for sharing and I hope the saw’s performance makes up for it all!
@@DaverMade It does not.. See another of my posts (today) on another of your Saw Stop Videos.
I have one and love it, especially the ease of mobility to store away in my small shop. Yep, I don’t like the table top material or the miter gauge either. Let’s face it, we paid $1500 for the squelching of our fears of a major saw accident.
At the end of the day it’s worth it for me.
I have the same saw, It was dead simple to set up. I nicked some aluminum and set off the safety feature. I will Only have a SawStop from now on. Oh yeah, micro adjust without tools is Very Cool!
It fits in a Subaru Outback! I just picked one up and saved $200 shipping........I'm going from a Bosch 4100 which I really like, but want to get the added safety with the Saw Stop.
Teaching my kid so I’m upgrading to this saw from a sweet Bosch on the gravity rise stand. I won’t sell the Bosch right away but plan to sell it at some point.
I have one of these, purchased in late 2020. It’s my first table saw and I’m really glad I bought it. There are some really minor design things not even worth mentioning. I ended up buying an Incra miter gauge which I’d also recommend. I built a crosscut sled and a 45 degree sled and the whole thing works fine. I’m a garage woodworker with limited space and I just don’t think there’s a better saw on the market right now for that kind of situation.
I’m in the same boat as you. I need to be able to move about. I have an old house in the Northeast and a detached garage with no climate control. Are you still pleased?
that was a nice compact saw until now,lol, they came out with an even more compact saw, called....the compact saw,lol. Only downside is, you cant use dado blades.
The miter gauge on about any table saw large or small seems to be an issue. Definitely getting the Incra miter gauge…
This is a good video keep going 👍
I have to agree with you, for the price they're asking that table should be dead flat!
It's honestly disappointing to me that they would tell you it's "within tolerance". If you charge a premium price you need to deliver a premium product. Doing finer woodworking that will throw off the angles and make pieces not fit properly, and saying "It's a job site saw, it's not meant for fine woodworking" is a BS excuse, a flat table saw base is basic stuff.
Hi Daver. Enjoyed your review. The saw has some great built in features, it looks well made from what I've seen. Awaiting your comments after using it on your upcoming projects. Tony
Thanks Tony!
Corrections ಠ_ಠ:
@6:45 - The fence comes with the saw, not the blade obviously.
@10:16 - The blade is still spinning, not the saw. That would be crazy if the saw was spinning...After watching this while editing 100+ times, I didn't realize I misspoke until it was posted (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Good review man. The power coat top seems a little disappointing. Thanks for being honest!
He said, "I put something down and don't find it for a week" - glad I'm not the only one!
Plastic body is shock resistant, light weight, and the only real option on a portable saw. Aluminum would cost more, e less impact resistant and weigh more.
Here is what saw stop could do.. use machined aluminum on the gauges, the miter guide and use higher quality finishes on the table top.
It’s like riding a motorcycle. It’s not a matter of if you have an accident, it’s when you have an accident.
The notion that everyone who uses a table saw will cut their finger off is nonsense. Table saws would have been banned long ago if that was the case.
@@Aaron-nj4ou Of course it’s not an absolute. It’s a saying that a lot motorcyclists I know have told me when referring/talking about people they know who have had accidents. I would ascertain that a saying like this establishes that there is an inherent danger in riding motor bikes that they are aware of.
I used the motorcycle analogy to establish that there is an inherent danger in using power tools. You can do everything right an accident can still happen.
Here’s another good one I’ve heard: ‘you won’t need it until you need it’. Of course this isn’t an absolute as well but you already knew that.
@@Aaron-nj4ou the older I get as a longtime pro the more appreciation I have for safety. It’s really underrated, people in my business get hurt all the time(not necessarily from TS)
I guess I'm not as picky as you, based on your complaint about the table flatness. I have to agree on the miter gauge, however. That was an insult from SawStop that they could have easily avoided. Mine went in the trash can.
How do you make fine fence adjustments (I’m thinking of Dewalts gear design)?
Thank you. What miter gauge are you using in this video.
If they use all metal with cast iron top. Then the saw would be very heavy and not very feasible on the mobility part, especially for contractors that need to use the saw on job site. I use this saw on job site and I love everything about it, except for the weight. It is a bit on a heavy side, compare to other job site saws. Great review btw, but you forgot to mention one of the main functionalities of this saw which is mobility
Delta made them for years with a cast iron top. $200. The fence wasn’t the best though. And the motor wasn’t brushless (before those were common).
Thanks for the video Daver. How does the cut quality of the Sawstop compare to the Skilsaw Worm Drive TS?
I honestly think it’s better, as long as you don’t use the stock Sawstop blade.
Thank you for the video. I've been using mine regularly and found that it does not hold its 90* to table adjustment when folded up, then brought out for use. SS engineers confirmed this on their units as well. I use mine for fine woodworking, so this is an issue for sure. Does this happen with your Pro? Have you checked it with a good square?
Yes. I have to check and adjust each time. It’s a bit frustrating but not bad as a practice in the end… is what I tell myself. Lol.
@@DaverMade Have you contacted SS Support on this? Please do, as they will not consider it an issue unless they get a certain number of complaints about it. I’m still looking for a fix on it.
I am curious what miter gauge you are using ... and what is your opinion of it. ? Thanks
I’m using the Rockler Precision Miter Gauge (www.rockler.com/rockler-precision-miter-gauge ) with the miter gauge fence. I really like it so far, built well. It’s much better than the one included with my SawStop.
I'm wondering after 1 year of usage how is the top plate, I dont care if it look bad I just want to be sure it dont take deep scratch easely and the wood slide well...anyone?
How easy is it to stand up from the cart? My wife is smaller, and our existing Dewalt table saw on it's folding legs is quite difficult to setup for her.
I would say it’s pretty easy. I had a Skillsaw Jobsite saw previously and the Sawstop cart is much better.
Will the blade cartridge work on any blade? For instance, your Diablo. Will it stop that blade or will the brake only work on the SawStop blade?
I believe so. I haven’t heard otherwise.
Your are not supposed to use a coated blade as it can slow the brake system down…every milli second counts when the system gets triggered.
Hello
Been told this is particularly loud.. Did you find that??
Would you recommend for a hobby fine (!) furniture maker??
I do not think it is any louder than my previous saw which was a 10" Worm Drive Tablesaw. It may be quieter, but I am not sure compared to others out there. For fine woodworking, I would not recommend this. A cabinet table saw with a cast iron table and a more accurate fence would be best in my opinion.
@@DaverMade Thank You for taking the time to reply.
Very helpful of you.
Best.
Have you ever tried taking it off the cart? That would probably be my preferred way to run the saw depending on jobsite conditions
I haven’t yet, but will soon. I am going to integrate it into my workbench for outfeed. I’m not taking it anywhere else for now so I think it’s a good option.
We're glad you will sleep better at night with your $1600+ jobsite saw. Try not to think about every other power tool in your woodshop that will still remove your digits in a millisecond.
The miter gauge looks identical to the one that came with my $185 ryobi bench top bandsaw 🤣 I’d have been pissed. But you paying for the patent and protection they cheap
Out on the rest
Yeah, I swear it’s the same as the one that came with my previous table saw that cost half the price, lol. I got the Rockler miter gauge luckily.
@@DaverMade yeah I’m gonna invest in one soon. The wood whisperer speaks highly of the incra gauges also. Definitely gonna invest in the WEN filtration system also. If I hadn’t got a blessing from God and ran across an older gentleman that didn’t believe in cheap tools that wanted to sell them all dirt cheap most of my shop would be WEN too. I hear NOTHING but great things about em. Great videos man and the fact that you’re that responsive you definitely got a new faithful subscriber and viewer in me. Keep ‘em coming
@@stephenpalazziii9875 I have honestly been surprised with all my WEN products up till this point. They have been reliable and did not break the bank. However, I am not sure if I did this full-time if that would change. Thanks for the kind words and for the sub btw. Cheers!
@@DaverMade yes sir you betcha
Does someone have a piece of meat or something to demonstrate the safety feature. No one actually demonstrates this that I seen. Is it any better than a 36v Hikoki?
Sadly, a hobbyist is more likely to make a mistake while using a table saw, too bad it's out of reach for them.
The SawStop people don't know how to design saws. They have a patented safety feature, which they tried to get the govt. to mandate for all saws and thusly make millions, but they really don't know how to design an accurate table saw itself. Go with Bosch #1 or Dewalt #2 if you want a good accurate table saw. And, just don't stick your hand into the blade.
Wow!, For all the complaints that you stated it seems like you would have done your research BEFORE paying for this saw. There are also older youtube videos on this exact saw that you could have reviewed. I own a full size Sawstop table saw as well as about a dozen Festool power tools and I can easily say that you get what you pay for (and more) in these tools. I will say that I am sure that Sawstop considered all specifications and materials when designing and building this job site saw. Personally, and given their reputation, I would trust in any of the research and development on all of their tools. Btw, you can buy this saw for about $900 without the rolling stand. One could easily build a solid stationary stand for a shop.