How Safe is a Sawstop Saw? - Never Before Seen 19,000 FPS HD Slow-Mo Video
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
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To better understand how safe a Sawstop Tablesaw is we rented the Phantom V2640 high definition slow motion camera. We did nine activations and analyzed the footage. This was done on their 5 hp ICS Model and would certainly perform even better on a PCS or Job-site Model. I really can’t wait to see what you create! Let me know what you’d like to see next. Thanks for watching! Please like, comment and subscribe. Cheers!
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Fantastic video!
How do European wood workers make datos with dato stacks being "illegal in europe"?
Awesome video!
Hey bud I have a high speed hotdog critique. The dog deflected quite a bit because there was no internal skeletal structure. Also it was right on the tip, allowing it to whip back faster.
I think a more reasonable test would be to slip a wooden chopstick through a dog and then go full speed a bit farther down, like maybe an inch or two. The chopstick is about the same strangth as a finger bone.
CHEERS!
Man it's 4.30 I don't even own a tablesaw what am I doing here
Lmao thats what im sayin
Yeah ight
Lol 5:56 same situation
Same 2am though 😂
Lmao same, 5:00 am here 😬
Idc what anyone says. $60 is a fair price to keep my fingers
Atleast it aint 1000$ or so, lol
@@MaZOne2023 apple be like
@@Thuan-bq5hr apple sawstop but the spring is bought separately for only 5300$
pretty friggin cheap to keep your fingers lmfao I thought it would be a few hundred i dont know whay nyone wouldnt buy one
tell me why i laughed at this
The sawstop is one of the most amazing safety inventions ever. The amount of force they can stop and the incredible speed at which they stop the blades is jawdropping. Thousands and thousands of terrible accidents have already been avoided due to Sawstop and as it becomes a truly ubiquitous piece of technology many more livelihoods will be saved.
Probably tens of thousands of accidents if not hundreds of thousands, cumulatively over the decade(s).
Bosch system was better, it did not damaged the blade , but typical US, lawsuits by sawstop stopped it in US, so were they actually interested in safety or just making money. Now of course they let part of sawstop tech free, when consumer safety start to mandate sawstop from all table saw ... you are going back to people rigging circular saw to the tabletops, when cheapest table saw is over €1000.
We in Europe enjoy freedom and use all the dangerous saws that Americans cant handle and can only dream of , like table mitre saw combos. 🙂
@@pete_lind Bosch chose to infringe on the patent rather than pay to license it, and after defending their patent sawstop gave them a license. Bosch were not the good guys here but it makes a good story for the poor saw maker lobbyists that want to jump into the tech for free 20 years later.
@@pete_lindbosch infringed on their patents. those patents have now expired, so why is Bosch not selling well? quality differences. the power tool institute fears sawstop because they think it could be a "monopoly" despite Ryobi having had the option to buy them. they are just mad they didn't think of it first and missed the opportunity to invest. get fucked I say
@@hughduffel There are double the amount consumers in Europe that in US and there no report 120 000 people getting injured by table saws , EU would regulate it. I bought Makita 14" cut off saw , its 1kg/2ibs heavier than US version, because the blade guard is bigger and i am considering buying makita LH1201 , 12" combo miter/table saw , banned in US for free market , also DeWalt (D27112-QS has sliding miter saw) , Bosch , Metabo a.s.o have models . Bosch system did not sell when consumers did not need it and Bosch would had licensed it . Always they use some case of person that used table saw without blade guard , yeah most injuries would have been prevented by security devise that user removed , thats what happens to SawStop , one blade and most wont replace it .
Best quote: “But what’s really impressive is, check out these hotdogs”
I saw your comment right when he said that lmao
Jack Wangensteen I was looking for this comment 😂
6:42
Was definitely going to write the same comment 🤣
I was about to write this too 😂
This simply wont work for me because I use my table saw exclusively to cut hotdogs.
Underrated comment
@@lwo7736 Agreed. The guy is clearly looking for a "Wood Stop(tm)" meat saw....
@@R.Daneel your mom also needs a woodstop ;)
Thought I was the only one.
😆
My aging father still uses the table saw he bought in the 1980’s and has had some close calls. This machine is incredible.
Outstanding piece of mechanical engineering, hats off to everybody including the shopworkers using tablesaws
I literally went "Holy shit" out loud when the teeth popped off. That is INSANE.
Same here. I had to go back and play it again just to be sure I really understood what just happened... even after it was explained. Just crazy.
How do we know that he first broken tooth wasn't the first to hit the brake ? Are we one hundo on that?
@@cognitive-carpenter The replay at the brake shows that the first tooth to hit it barely got past the brake. It never got back to the top.
Same. That stopped with enough force to rip the metal apart. Incredible.
@@chroniclesofbap6170 Well, it wasn't really just the force of the stop. The far disk wobbled and clipped the one next to it, breaking off the tooth.
Perfect for small projects. Not got a lot of power so if the wood starts to flex it stops the saw pretty easy. Use it for small tasks and you will be happy. Safety system Works great ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxjpBI8OOeUXib_iT7UomCrQ-uauwZJ62c .lose your grip on the saw it shuts off and the sheath closes over exposed saw.
Even with those people saying things like, “going to slow” or “they wouldn’t work that well”, there is one fact that remains. A blade that stops at all when a finger gets caught in it is better than no auto stop at all.
True and it’s clear that it stops much faster than human reaction time. Sometimes people take minutes to realize they have been cut. Some of the comments on this video are giving me new appreciation for my fingertips 😬
@@blackmber So true, my colleague had it happen, but luckily noticed "in time", by then, the blade already went in halfway through his finger... He got to keep it tho, but most people would have cut a finger straight off.
Yeah, i’d rather have a hole in my finger that not having a finger at all
Also, why would anyone ram their hand into the blade
@@coldones25 It's not so much why but how. A stupid stumble when passing by or a hand slipping on the wood while trying to cut it is enough
My best friend has one of this in his workshop. One time I was helping him doing some cutting and suddenly the sawstop activated itself without any visible reason. When I took a look closer I realized that inside the wood was an old and rusty nail.
Saved you from… idk, sparks and shrapnel?
@@yuanxinwang8219 The nail conducted the 3volt signal from the blade to the ground, lowered blades capacitance, sensor detected it and exploded the charge, launched the aluminum piece and stopped the blade.
@@UserName92149 Ah, so you'd rather severely injure yourself than lose maybe 200 US on a new blade and brake. Losing material possessions shouldn't go above personal injury.
@@adakcelina it didnt conduct the signal to ground, since the nail isnt grounded... it was embedded in wood.
it absorbed part of the signal through its capacitance
@@nikkiofthevalley $60, not $200
I've used these saw's for many years and i can tell you firsthand it has saved multiple people from danger. These are high quality, well made saws.
My trust in this: 100%
Chance I would go test it: 0%
ah yes the duality of man
So then you dont trust it 100%
@@hooch9266 trusting my parachute dosent mean I'd jump off a building
@@hooch9266 trust it 100% but it's still gonna hurt
@@erase6138 Then why would you have a parachute on then? Terrible analogy lol
Me who doesn't have a saw: well well well, let's find out
Same lol
Its past midnight now and I'm bored af
Same!!
I’m a simple woman. I see a hot dog next to a blade, I click.
@@crystaladcox7266 thanks for ruining this video for me
This is one of the best advertisements I’ve ever seen. With 22 million views I take it I’m not alone. I hope you were paid handsomely for your effort. I say that with complete sincerity. Your video clearly demonstrated that this device should be widely adopted in mills and wood shops everywhere. I brought this video to the attention of my manager (I work in a medium sized wood shop building custom windows and doors) but of course I was told the cost was prohibitive ( unfortunately I work in Florida). In my 13 years in the shop I’ve witnessed one person cut off two fingers and seen two other serious injuries on the table saw.
The teeth flying off due to the g-forces was insane! Breaking welds with stopping power! Thanks for giving us the most extreme test!!
Will you sell me a monorail?
@@TheFreedom4you People use g-force for everything nowadays
at my old woodshop class we didn't have these, we just had the woodshop teacher running at 60 mph towards the saw because his internal "my dumbass student is about to get their goddamn thumb cut off" alarm went off
I mean if it kept his class running it must be a really good alarm
What
My woodshop teacher only let us use it if we used a thin wood tool (forgot the name of it) to slide the wood through the saw. It was pretty fun
@@prodigy2652 won't prevent deadly kickbacks
My dad's classmate got like a third of a finger and the tip of another cut off, he flicked his hand around because he thought he just nicked it but when he put his hand back on the wood his finger was across the class, he couldn't feel it because it cut it so fast
I'd rather have a gashed finger than a missing finger, that's for sure
Lol my broke arse would rather a hospital visit and stumps to replacing those blades!
@@cedrick25 yeah me too
@@cedrick25 yeah me too
@@cedrick25 Lmao
@@cedrick25 yeah me too
I found this video because I saw a video of CMT dado locked blades. It's because of you tubers like you Jonathan that people like me are made more aware of possible accidents in the shop. You are making everyone more safety conscious and I thank you for that. I was shocked at the carbide flying off when activated by the safety stop on the saw stop. I'll be buying a CMT dado for my shop for sure.
Many thanks, keep up the great content
Many thanks
Ian
Great video. I have a PCS Sawstop in my garage shop and the piece of mind it brings is incredible. The other thing is, they're just damn good table saws too. There's no trade off for the safety.
So the sawstops, not a good option for cutting hotdogs then?
lol
Damnit, I'd better cancel my pre-order for both, the saw and a jar of hot dogs.
Just use scissors
@teirdalin i wanted to like ur comment, but i think 555 is a nice number, so ill leave it like that
Certainly won't work for circumcisions..
Did anyone else get this channel randomly recommended? No complaints, just thinking out loud.
Yeah and it's fuckin dope I've never even used a saw before but damn that was pretty cool.
Yeah me
PooTube
Same, sci-fi and history buff and boom table saw.
Yes
WOAH!!! THAT WAS INCREDIBLE!!!
Genuinely did not expect that last clip!!! Whoever designed this should get a Nobel, cause this has to save thousands upon thousands of limbs!!
Lets hold off on the nobel prize considering they patented it and made it an exclusive tech and then gouged up the prices. Now that their patent is coming to an end, the prices are plumetting as they prepare to compete which shows they chose fat, fat margins over helping people and still making a lot of money. They were prohibitively expensive and inaccessible since they didn’t have to compete with anyone.
@@Rspsand07 hopefully the tech will now become cheaper and more available! I didn't know it was so expensive.
Just the licensing itself would have added $600 - $1100 to the price of each cabinet saw. Plus the millions of dollars that would be needed to redesign and reengineer the saws themselves. @@SpotTiger
@@Rspsand07 Yeah probably nobel prizes are awarded for patented discoveries.
I use a table saw a few times a week sometimes for hours at a time. It is really a tool to respect and keep aware of at ALL times. I am very impressed. I know a handful of people that have lost hand fulls of fingers in them
More like hand incompletes
(Sorry, i just couldn’t resist)
2 of the most unknown things scientists are yet to figure out:
1.The Big Bang
2. UA-cam recommendations
Why would they debunk the big bang? Its the most supported model for the "beginning" of the universe
Azter Morales no it’s not. It’s just a theory and among many other theory. Much like evolution
@@Mikey-ym6ok do you even understand what a scientific theory is?
@@Mikey-ym6ok Do not confuse " theory" with "hypothesis"
@@Mikey-ym6ok gravity is just a theory but I don't see any religious people jumping off of balconies to prove it wrong. Although I wish they all would.
Show of hands, who else has no plans of ever owning a table saw?
Before the sawstop, only people who've never used one could do that anyway.
Joshua Latham I’m trying so hard to understand this comment but for some reason my brain isn’t working..
@@JoshLathamTutorials don't worry dude i got it as soon as i read it
🤚🏼
can’t they were cut off
This is absolutely incredible, huge props to the designers and engineers, this is life saving tech.
*finger saving tech
I can count on all 7 of my fingers how many times this has saved me
Not very effective huh
@@ericksanchez7787 well, 7 fingers is still better than 0 fingers...
Now the question is, 7 fingers on one hand or both?
@@ireallydontknow3299 3 on both hands and one in the lower region /s
@@Sharpless2 Hm... Surely you mean to say he lost 9 toes, right...? S-surely...
Idk why this was recommended to me. The only woodworking I do is alone, in my room, disappointing my family.
My work has inevitably led me to be part of a cult.
I'm a joiner.
Your comment is gold 😂😂
Josh Price same
When I do my woodworking, sometimes my mom comes in and helps me.
When I do that type of woodwork, my family usually gives me a hand
I'm sorry, just seen another comment basically said the same thing as my comment.
After nicking my finger on my Ryobi table saw a couple of years ago, I haven't had the courage to use a table saw again. I just bought the Sawstop Compact Table saw and I'm ready to rip! Love the video. Jonathan rocks!
Actually seeing how the Sawstop works, instead of just the end result was neat. I haven't seen that in other demonstrations.
"They go so slow."
Well fucking... yeah? As slow as you'd be moving while working with wood. What are you gonna do, sucker punch a moving saw?
Yes
Yes
You underestimate my power.
@@CommanderOfRussia1
*Yields lightsaber*
Don’t try it.
Chuck Norris could do it
I don't use these saws nor am I going to buy one of these, but none the less I'm very impressed by how well this tech works.
@@user-sl4ul4nc3t Worth it if it’s your profession though
Thats one specific name lol
What? You mean you don't use a table saw to make Sushi? Okay then...
Ah yes, stone sushi
I dont think this would fit in your kitchen, so i get it
Thank you so much. What an incredible safety measure . It is well worth it for anyone who uses a saw daily . Blessings
Flat-out amazing footage! Those carbide tip dado welds ripping off was incredible!
i actually already tested this machine unintentionally. and let me tell you i did bleed from it. but the cut was very minor. im glad we have this in our shop. it saved my finger.
test again with a different finger as fast as you can. Post results please
i'm glad you're with all fingers.. sometimes we can spend years leading safe lives, but one careless moment, one wrong move, one unlucky day, and you can kiss your health goodbye. forever. i'm glad for you man, hope your finger will heal well
Oh god
@@tucci06 that sounds like a pretty easy way to end your life subscription
@@alexk9642 he's telling the smartass to kill him self which im in full support of if hes this much against safety
"What's really impressive is...check out these hot dogs"
that's a quote
He said is twice in the video
6:42
I was a hotdog vendor and I use the same set up to cut hotdog in half. Now I understand why I got fired.
@@nikolatesla6776 so thats how Spacex started..
@@illusorybucket5703 so that's how,he made his son on his own
I remember seeing the first sawstop videos years ago when it was coming to market, good to see the company has been successful with their great invention
They succeeded by manufacturing the saws themselves. They wanted extortionist fees for licensing the technology to other companies - so they are the only maker. Now that their 20 year patents are about to run out - they are both trying to get the patents extended and get the CPSC to mandate similar technologies on all table saws sold in the USA.
So, regardless of how good the Sawstop saw may be, I detest the patent owners. From the beginning it has appeared that they care more about the money than actual saw user safety.
My mouth is agape at how quickly it goes! Truly jaw dropping
Back in like 2001 or 2002, I was in my high school shop class when a friend of mine was using a dado stack on the table saw and it kicked back on him, pulling his hand into the blade and literally grinding his pinky finger down to the first knuckle and his ring finger down the the second knuckle. Had these saws existed back then he wouldn't have lost his fingers. So I definitely feel that they NEED to make this the standard on ALL table saws.
if you hadn't done that, it would never have happened 🧐
@@Agent-gj7dp if I wasn’t born I wouldn’t be alive
yea lol, they should..
But they should also stop people from starving etc... i don't see that a possibility.
People give no shit about others trust me. If you have money you save your hand , otherwise, sorry not sorry. Money is humanity cancer.
@@WastedTalent83 what are you doing about it?
@@-anonymous8820 nothing, suffer in silence in the darkness ahhaha
My Grandpa tells me stories of the gore he saw when he used to own a cedar mill. He would love this!
Saw
Haha, "he saw"
*saw noises*
All your grandpa has to do is search chainsaw accidents on UA-cam
@@Sea-zu4bj lmfao
I just purchased a saw stop table saw and I want to say thanks, for doing those great videos.
Impressive safety features ... These are the things that geniuses should be working on. Just amazing.
"They're always so slow with the hotdogs." Who is gonna just punch their saw going full speed
Well if everything goes accordingly nobody will have their hands or fingers chopped off, main reason the accident happens is because one's hand slipped and pushed their fingers or hands into the saw or their clothing got caught and pulled their hand or fingers into the saw... if you are chopping off your fingers or hands while it's moving at super slow speed towards the saw, you probably better off without those limbs since you obviously can't feel anything u dumb fck!
You'd be surprised what lack of natural selection in industrial environment does to people
Gangibon Gubdame natural selections isn’t a problem for dumbfucks currently in the world. Technology is saving dumbfucks’ lives
@@victorma9355 that's what I said
The specific reason why machines need to be as foolproof as possible is because fools feel protected from everything, vicious cycle
me! I am into bdsm!
No one:
My recommended: "How effective is this saw stop?"
@@stevefromminecraft7345 i support this comment
@@stevefromminecraft7345 You put alot of effort into that joke, thank you
@@stevefromminecraft7345 what a legend
At 3:40 am
@@stevefromminecraft7345 You took 12 seconds of my life and I want them back...never mind, I'd only waste them anyway.
you guys have no idea how many times this saw SAVED alot of workers in my custom cabinet shop from farther injurys.... this tablesaw is the mother of ALL table saws!!!!!!!
That technology is amazing. I remember as a kid watching something about a baby who lost all her fingers in a paper shredder. It's incredible how far safety has advanced.
It's a wonder that i've never met someone who lost a finger
“I’m coyote Peterson and I’m about to enter the strike zone with a table saw”
Haha good one
@J V wdym
Lmfao
Harder daddy😫
Fried rice no
“Man... if I don’t cut these 20 boards in the next 5 seconds my boss will kill me”
Not if he's trying to do that with one of these saws...
It is like that for some
@@JEAthePrince Fr, there are some lazy bosses with unrealistic expectations expecting their businesses to skyrocket
dude if you can cut 4 boards a second you should be the boss lol
@@andrewvargas4141 true. I worked for some as a machinist
Omg this is insane! Thank you for doing this!
Amazing technology no matter what!!! Thanks for the super high speed video shots!!!
I've heard the "you were pushing too slow" argument before, my response is: just how fast are you pushing material through your saw?
Your high speed push was very impressive and convincing, but it really isn't needed since no one can even push wood through a saw that fast. Actually trying to cut wood that fast would cause a whole other set of problems...
Yesh, but if you (or someone else) were to trip and fall into it...
Accidents don't always happen to the person using the tool.
@@adamthethird4753 That's what I was thinking. What could happen if you were to trip and fall into a spinning blade?
The fast push through the blade answered this to my satisfaction. You would endure some damage but most likely not an amputation.
@@mktsmith62 I think Jimmy DiResta cut his finger off once. Said the bill was $15,000. And a new SawStop saw is around $3-4,000. I'd say it justifies it if you use the table saw daily
The speed is excessive but it proves how even in an unrealistically worst-case scenario, your finger will still stay attached. It's not too often where you go way beyond what a product was meant to handle and it still does what it intends to do.
You can't push material thru the saw that fast but during a kickback scenario your hand could certainly be thrown into the blade that fast.
This device is an absolutely phenomenal piece of engineering,
Actually it’s pretty simple.
@@braamschmidmountainbiking632 that's what makes it so amazing, a big part of engineering is finding the most simple and effective design, simple doesn't exactly mean obvious
Not really but ok
i agree 1000%
doesn't make up for general public not paying a bit of attention to what they are doing, or how dangerous the equipment actually is
My high school has one of these in the wood shop. It's been set off a couple of times since I've been there.
Never really knew what a sawstop is. Cool to see and useful explanation.
Amazing how the change in current caused by contact with flesh triggers the computer's terminate action sequence. Amazing.
the one point people are missing here: is this a perfect solution?
Maybe not. But is it better than having a 100% chance of loosing a finger?
pretty fucking sure.
Exactly.
Hey stop being an asshole you dip shit
Yeah it's like wearing a seatbelt in a car. Is it a guarantee you wont get hurt? Nope, but it could
save your life.
@Drew Smith Welcome to the internet, where no one cares about minor grammatical mistakes.
@@pkoolaid4038 🤡
"We caught something on camera that I don't even know if you're gonna believe"
Yeah, right.
Oh my god, genuinely shocked!
The fact that it was enough G force to break the welds on saw teeth is actually pretty crazy man
@@EnrikaGames I thought it looked impossible to me so i went back and watched the clip again. It actually seems it didn't break due to G force but rather by hitting other teeth parallel to it. The "shockwave" probably caused the blade to wobble sideways slightly, resulting in a small overlap between the teeth and thus being able to hit one another. It still does look incredible though.
@@Simon-mv4jc I doubt it
@@cjbht19minaret Check the video again and look closer. you can clearly tell one of the teeth comes in contact with the other by a spark
Exactly my thoughts.... "what's gonna happen, huh?" And then... bedjeeeezusss bits breaking off.
Very cool. I had no idea this kind of safety technology existed
My grandpa lost 4 fingers to this in the 60’s. He sure would have love this to exist back then.
UA-cam: You wanna see this hotdog get cut by a saw
Me: ....N-No
UA-cam: Yes you do
Me: You right
nah UA-cam’s response to you saying no was “ok” and recommended you this
UA-cam: Well too bad cause this is about how the hotdog *doesn’t* get cut by a saw
@@Qbe_Root the video is just him talking and never turning the saw on
@@tylersinger2 it was a continuation of who i was replying to
bread what saw?
i gotta say im pretty impressed at this tech, especially the method they used to make the whole thing work. When you see stuff like this you always think, "howd no one ever think of this before" but then you realize you only thought of it bc you just had it freaking explained to you lol
The cartridge is pretty damn expensive But it's worth every finger!
well yea but, is it compatible with every table saw? i think it only work with theirs... meaning one of that is like 1500? XD Not sure about it tho..
@@WastedTalent83 better than losing a finger
@@HikerMan-px1bv yeah man. A finger is irreplaceable, a couble bucks for FINGERS
Yeah a finger is one of the most useful body parts of a human body. Imagine living without your fingers for a day or even half a day.
@@NiqIce i know right? I would rather lose my legs rather than my fingers. You cant hold anything. But without legs, you can crawl, get a wheelchair, etc
That is incredible, I didn't even know something like that even existed. I have a nice job site table saw so I'm not familiar with this tech but it is extremely awesome! Thanks for the great video with slow mo.
There's a job site version of this saw that's just under 1k, if you do this professionally it's probably worth the investment. Hospital visits aren't cheap.
Not until I saw this demonstration did I ever consider a saw stop. Thanks, guess I'll be buying one now.
I'm amazed in all the years my dad did handyman work, he never lost a finger. He did cut his leg open with a skillsaw, though. His reaction was so funny. He calls me into the room and says, very calmly, like he's asking me to hold a flashlight for him, "I want you to have your mother call 9-1-1. Tell her she doesn't need to worry, but I need an ambulance. Don't let her come in here, because she'll worry too much."
That's very impressive he remained this calm
@@smutnejajo5149 when you have a giant cut in your thigh or leg sometimes you panic so much that you cant even panic anymore, idk how it works tbh
source: been through a leg injury myself (with a saw)
@@nbhjlkjkl6155 That mind of injury seems to run in the family, huh?
@@smutnejajo5149 Might be shock
@@smutnejajo5149 I don't know about other people and I've never been like horribly injured but when I get hurt my mind instantly moves to making sure people around me don't panic. I personally know how bad my injury is but other people don't. If I'm not careful about my reaction everyone around me might freak out and that can make things much worse. My reaction to pain is different when I'm all alone as opposed to when I'm around people. That's just how my brain works and it seems like maybe there father is similar, he didn't want his wife to freak out.
I think one major conclusion that you missed in this video is that having a 'safe' SawStop saw IS NEVER an excuse to follow unsafe practices. EVER!
Yes it worked the 9 times you tired it, but that doesn't mean it is guaranteed to work the one time it's a finger hitting the blade and not a hot dog.
The saw is super cool, but technology is only a compliment to carefulness, never a substitute.
I wonder if the makers ever do demos using there actual fingers...
100% agree with your comment. Safety mechanisms of any sort...rocket ship, table saw, automobile are just an addition TO, never a substitution FOR proper safety procedures.
@@joeshmoe7967 the guy who made the saw has put his finger in the saw and he didn't even bleed
Wrong the conclusion is that it's safer to hold your lumber with hot dogs
The phrase "no sh*t Sherlock" comes to mind. People keep making this argument but I have to meet a sawstop owner that doesn't practice the same level of safety. I think the ones who keep saying this don't own one. I have one and have no desire to test the brake.
$100 to $150 to replace the blade and brake system is still a fairly significant penalty for not following regular safety rules... It's just not as significant as having multiple fingers cut off.
Kick ass video. Nice work, I enjoyed the slow-mo's and your commentary.
Omg absolutely amazing. My grandpa cut off all his fingers with a saw back in the day. They were reattached, but I wish he had this back in the day
They should add one of these into a hollywood fight scene where someone gets their head smashed into the table saw, but he just gets a small cut on his eye brow and keeps fighting lmao.
@@waxcutter9813 Hell yeah, it would. Especially if they include a slow-motion shot of it working.
That's a genius product placement, someone who owns and sells that product can advertise their product in a movie and it'll be subtle!
@@waxcutter9813 exactly what I was thinking lol
Great idea! The only problem I see is that nobody knows that this technology exists, or how dangerous table saws are, and sadly the vast majority would rather see someone get a deep dado cut thru the head than see the safety device function correctly.
I would see that movie just for that scene
Regardless of any criticisms, this is simply an invention that makes life better.
Even at high speed, which most folks won’t be doing anyway, the results were impressive.
Not just about cutting speed, as others have pointed out tripping scenarios and kickback, but yes very impressive how far that tech has come since my days of working at bayliner.
That'd still hurt like a bitch. But given that the alternative is losing a finger...
Seems like it would create a false sense of security and in the case it breaks or something it could be bad.
@@naverilllang actually, when something happens very quickly, it's possible to not notice it. I have a mouse and sometimes her instincts activate and she gets really spooked of literally nothing - i get nibbed and sometimes it's pretty bad.
Anyway, i don't feel the pain until about a few minutes after because it happens so fast and it's hard to spot the bite until blood pours out or your finger starts throbbing. Sometimes I don't notice it at all until I see all the blood - that's when it starts to hurt.
Well, maybe it's just me and people do actually immediately feel injuries but I think that if you got a brief adrenaline rush after activating the saw stop then you wouldn't feel the pain as much either until your heart stopped beating as fast.
@@naverilllang Losing a finger is the lucky cenario. I've met ppl who got the hand pulled by the saw, slicing it in half to the arm. Things get really ugly.
My mom passed 2 years ago and 6 months after, my dad cut off 2 separate fingers in 1 month in his woodshop using his table saw. He’s 84 and my sisters wanted to lock up all his tools…instead we bought him a Sawstop. He’s activated it twice and just laughs about it saying glad we bought it. It truly has saved him and definitely well worth it.
I hope he has no other tools. Having cut off 2 fingers and triggered a table saw twice already makes me believe that your dad should not be in a workshop anymore.
Fcking hell old man's tryna kill himself by the sounds of it wtf 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wow! Looks like magic, but seeing the engineering I understand it. What a great safety mechanism.
"I've always wondered... How safe is a Sawstop? Because I could never afford a hot dog before."
Makes sense
Ive always wondered when is this jackass going to stop talking and show us the damn video
@@greasyfishtacos Missing the ability to check when stuffs actually happening in videos? You've only gotta hover the play bar 😂 don't be lazy
I mean your probably a boy soo yea.
well, i think you have to buy a new set of blades and charge to stop them too.
3:50
"Yeah but they go so slow with the hotdogs"
Which is how fast your hand will be moving, if you're cutting a piece of wood on a sawblade. Unless you're practicing your karate on active circular saws, you have no reason to complain.
As others have said, sure when using the tool you wont be moving that fast, but what if someone trips or something?
Edit: Because some people cant read beyond this comment, I'm just explaining why others complain about the demonstrations going slow, this is not my own opinion.
@@Midnight-wh2bs I love this logic. "Oh, in this VERY specific circumstance, you'd still be badly hurt by it! CHECKMATE!"
Okay, first, Jonathan kind of proves that even at VERY fast speed, it DOES stop the blade. Yeah, you're not slapping a band-aid on it and calling it good, but you're not losing the fingers either. But more importantly, considering what a table saw WITHOUT this tech would do to your hand in that same circumstance, ANYTHING would be better than nothing, even IF it didn't perform as well as it does in Jonathan's demonstration.
To me this is like complaining that a seat belt won't save your life if you crash into a concrete barrier at 100mph, so it's not "worth it". That is probably true (not in the Saw Stop case, but let's go with it for now), but how many times do you actually expect that to happen versus the kinds of incidents it IS designed to save you from?
PS I'm not saying YOU'RE making the argument against the Saw Stop, just that the complainers who do are kinda stupid.
Just imaging a guy in a gi kiyahing and side chopping the blade
lmao thank you!! I was thinking the same thing--who actually tries to cut something that fast?
@@MisterTsumi They're complaining just to complain and trying to argue that it's not 100% safe. NO shit it's not. But it sure is a WHOLE LOT SAFER than not having it. You still practice extreme safety around a sawblade with or without a stopsaw. You're an idiot if you don't.
EDIT: And if shit happens, chances are you will not lose a finger/limb.
You did a great service to the woodworking community Jonathan! Great job! I got the blade on my finger 20 years ago. It was about 1/8th and went into the fingernail. I can still see the scar and it did do nerve damage. So what does that mean? If I think about it, especially when I type, I can tell it happened. Very similar to what a callus feels like on your palm of foot. So no big deal. I'll be glad to email a photo if any geeks want to see. FYI, I stopped using a table saw for about 15 years. Now I'm back and use my GRR-RIPPER 3D Pushblock (GR-100) - MICROJIG. (That's not a paid endorsement. Yes, mine has cut marks but not on my fingers, thank God!
Always wondered how exactly these worked, thanks
my dad worked with tools and carpentry for 40 years
helping in my home, already old, he decided to trim down a bit a wood door with a large table saw
nobody realized a nail was inside the wood. when the blade hit the nail , the whole table shook violently and my dad's hand ended up on the blade
he lost 4 fingers. I never forgive myself about this. Would be great to have had this device 15 years ago.
I am sorry man.
Why do you feel responsible? Did you give him the wood with the nail in it? I think even if you gave it to him, you can't be blamed for it. Your dad knew what time it was, he could have checked the wood just like you(if you gave it to him, of course).
I hope you and your dad is doing ok
@@slip8293 Emotions are Illogical. Regardless of whether it makes sense to feel guilty, the reality remains the same. It isn't easy to just stop feeling a certain emotion if you realize you shouldn't be, and that not considering the nuance of whether you think you should or shouldn't feel something.
Ehhh huh okay? Thanks???
Even with that substantial scratch, the alternative of having nothing certainly makes it extremely impressive
Better than losing all your fingers lol
Ummm yeah heh, totally wouldn’t want ANYONE to lose a finger
Don’t look at my username
Really well done, super helpful. Thank you sir
This is very very impressive technology. I did not know this. Thank you for sharing!
Actually uses his finger
The camera guy: aw I didn’t get it
*uses cameraman's finger*
@@bladedninja8853 dope reply
Bladed Ninja lmaoo
Bladed Ninja pfft
Kane Xu lmfao
"You didn't throw the sausage fast enough"
Yeah, dude, like, why are doing that with a saw? Are you cutting a wood with 15-seconds deadline?
the only wood that would get cut would be his own
@@akromimubarok6626 slip and fall on what?
@@akromimubarok6626 if you such an idiot to leave on your table saw, yea I could see why people would ask it.
@@ihateall3966 but i think its safe enough if kickback happen. I hope..
@@akromimubarok6626 how you should have your saw placed on somewhere with good footing where you wold be standing and the saw should be off if you aren't using it
Really excellent demo.
This puts the sawstop clips I’ve seen into effective context. Far less magic, and much more practical. I hope these systems aren’t too expensive.
Imagine an Ad...with the "Die another day" 007 on a table saw, slowly beeing pulled torwards the super fast spinning blade...everybody waits for the rescue, but it does not come.
The Sawstop rescues him instead. That would be a spot!
You should look into advertising. Even small businesses pay well for advertising.
Holy shit 420k subs lol
Lol hab deine videos früher immer angeguckt
Schmutzcontent
@@trippsmclovin I am in advertisement :D
Bruh y are u in my recommendations I haven't watched anything like this before. Good video do very enjoyable
SHØYIYØY Lol me too . I’m not carpenter or DIY-enthusiast, so why is it in my recommendation. But still a great video
The algorithm is favouring this man, I’m in the same boat as you 😂
why was he in mine as well? this guy is suspicious! and so is youtube!
Same wth never watched but still enjoyed
Though
Great job ! Thanks for sharing !
Man thank you for this video. I was always curious of the details.
I have no particular interest in woodworking or table saws, but it's always fascinating to listen to someone talk about something they're passionate about, such as hot dogs and continuing to have fingers.
Table saw is the only tool I'm scared of- kickbacks can be real nasty, even if you're careful about touching the blade it can still shoot wood at you crazy fast. The amount of power going through those things is crazy.
Underrated comment
@@LongToad The channel Smarter Every Day has a video where they try to build a system that detects and prevents kickbacks like that. You might want to check that out! "Circular Saw Kickback Killer"
Im just here to finally get this fucking thing out of my recommendations.
Детерминизм это Свобода 🤙
5:55 this is truely unbelievable. Force and shock was so intense that jaws left the blade. Salute to people who invented this.
I think the tooth that is farthest back just colided with the tooth of the the center blade but thats just me
A kid from my high school actually helped invent this
@@samueljordan5601 yeah it was me
@@reasonjefferey4644 it's true, i was the saw
what jaws? they're teeth.
Thank you for doing this review
this is VERY informative, thank you for this incredible video!
Ah yes, the "it's 3am and I probably have a lot on my mind" side of UA-cam
Lol 3 03 am as I'm reading this comment
Alternatively known as the 'it's been in my recommended for at least a month, may as well see what it is"
OMG, I'm also watching this video at 3 a.m. Seems like UA-cam always has something cool to watch while you cannot sleep. xD
3:45
03:31 LOL
The Sawstop company would be fools not to promote your tests! Keep up the great video productions.
Or at least refund the brakes and blades with extra money.
Sawstop does have some videos like this from years ago
@@GotTwins29 I don't think that camera was around when those first videos were produce by sawstop. I have never seen dato stack activation and when the tooth breaks the weld that is bad ass.
@@SQLKC refund the brakes?? I'm pretty sure they provided all those cassettes free of charge just for the video.
The technology for this was around back as far as the 60's . This is great to protect peoples fingers with . It concerns me that its only come out in recent years .
This really should be required in shops used for education. I recall many years ago taking a woodshop class in a middle school where students were using the table saw on a daily basis, and I always felt that was less than safe. That class was certainly not without accidents and this would improve the safety immensely
It activates when an electrical resistance is sensed. This will happen when you feed wet wood, nails, hotdogs or body parts into it.
@@danielpaquette1597 - specifically, it measures the change in capacitance.
Thanks for this video, it really confirmed that I need this SawStop, all your tube are really informative
How did I get here UA-cam.... literally never watched anything remotely connected to this subject matter but have now spent 45 mins watching videos about woodworking tools
same😅
I mean it was clearly a good recommendation cuz you watched it lmao
i'm a bit disappointed. ive been watching a lot of engineering and workshop videos lately. i thought this recommendation was because of my yt habits.
Determinism is Freedom 🤙
This is one of those videos you watch at 3am after a bunch others that you had no idea what you were watch but got interested anyway, or it's one of those random videos you get recommended and it makes no sense but you watch anyway because it looked captivating because you want to see someone lose a finger/tip of a hotdog after putting it through a sawstop
UA-cam: wanna watch some stuff bout saws
Me: 👁️👄👁️
DEADASS😭
@@splashman187 shit, today I found out that "deadass" is still a thing.
@@methuselahhoneysuckle9575 🤔how many ppl from New York you kno?
@@splashman187 I knew the term, just thought it died a year or two ago.
@@methuselahhoneysuckle9575 so your the slang police? Fu*ck 12
Great video footage. Love my SawStop.