It's kind of ironic that Latavia and Letoya got kicked out of the group for wanting to part ways with Matthew...Then Farrah quits for the same reason....Then Michelle and Kelly both fire him as their manager and finally Beyonce herself fires her dad....So maybe Latavia and Letoya had valid reason back in the day
exactly of course they had reasons.... Beyonce use to thank Kelly and say if it wasn't for Kelly DC3 would be no more. It was said, Kelly had issues too back then but I think Mattie Knowles and Beyonka got to her.
You are right... When they went to Court...The judge found in favor of Lativia and Latoya and they had to pay an undisclosed amount of money to the girls So they were not telling LIES because they couldn't pay their BILLs...Bills.BILLS
iKETOURAGE this is so true, people would be like "um who are those new girls?" And then Latavia would have gone on social media and said it was matthew and bey and twitter would have Matthew's tail up. As society is now, none of these girls would have made it because racist yte executives aren't trying to promote black acts.
And it still is thats why DC3 aint getting back together anytime soon. Matthew still owns the name destinys child and is still manager of the group. Which would mean bey kelly amd michelle would have to deal with his ass today, which none of them probably want to. Especially beyonce she cut him off after he had all of them other kids with strippers outta wedlock smfh. R.i.p destinys child.
TheButtermilkgirl LeToya n LaTavia Said bad thins about them on a blog back in 2000,about Solange start to be a back up dancer for DC (i dont know What they said) . So they did an agreement to not atack each other on the media,But Beyoncé still have a clap back on the Survivor lyrics,where she sings the group sold more without them and they not gonna diss them on internet ,cause her mom teachs her better. And the girls sued DC over Survivor lyrics too.
Yea I agree it was Matthews fault but I feel like Bey knew what was going on, and if they were real friends of many years she should have stepped in to defend them and get them to compromise and come to an agreement rather then letting her father fire them. I know this was years ago and she was young but I would've defended my friends period
EXACTLY, with them she wasn't standing out as much. But when they got rid of the familiar faces, the public would have to chose the ones still in the group to pay closer attention to.
What did Beyonce and her mom do. They had no power to kick them out, that was management and the label, and the Label could have overruled Matthew but chose not to.
Beyonce had a Jag, Kelly a Mercedes and LaToya had a Volvo that her granny gave her and Latavia didn't have a car so you tell me WTF Beyonce's dad was doing.
YO ARE YOU SERIOUS RIGHT NOW?! HIS TAIL WAS STEALING MONEY FROM THEM, AND THAT'S WHY THEY FIRED HIM?! YO HE'S STRAIGHT UP TRASH, I CAN'T STAND PROBLEMATIC PARENTS YO WITH HIS NO TALENT HAVING SELF!!
Letoya and Latavia were fine with Matthew being the group’s manager but they didn’t want him as their personal manager. I’m not sure why that was an issue because other groups have separate managers. I think Matthew wanted to have more money and control over the girls.
MissNWO that's why I never cared for Kelly she's never had her own identity even when she tried to go solo it wasn't rec'd bc ppl felt the lack of authenticity
Kelemdria Rowland aka Kelly and Tenitra Williams aka Michelle are doormats they even allowed management to change their names so only Beyonce would have a memorable name.
@@abilio8637 exactly. the fact that they didn't tell them is pretty much why Bey and Kelly moved on without them - they were hurt, which turned to anger/resentment. they also felt like it was purposefully dramatic because they KNEW the SMN video was to be shot in two weeks.
When she dropped Torn, my younger self didn't realize she was one of the OGs from Destiny's Child. That song was a pretty big hit when competition was fierce (no pun intended)
All I can say is that "True Friends" dont do that! Beyonce said " There have been comments on the radio, which I cant get into for legal reasons" BITCH.. stop lying!! If there were comments on the radio, then you can discuss it. I dont care who Beyonce has become.. she lied here and many other interviews on this subject. Matthew also said "Columbia records would never deal with 2 managers for the group" Well.. if that is the case, then he, as their manager, should of said to Letoya and Latavia and their parents.. "Is there something that I can try to help with? As your Manager, I would like to address any concerns you may have and come to a resolution. You both have been apart of this group from inception, and its my job to ensure that you are happy" Also.. Kelly should speak up! Kelly wonders why she isnt doing as well as Beyonce! Sorry.. Kelly, you have no backbone, no courage to speak against Beyonce, for fear that you will do damage to your friendship and your Career. Friendship is all about truth, loyalty and being able to be honest with your friend, weather they like it or not! Who wants a fake friend? Oh.. Kelly does. Michelle.. you came in and helped save these girls.. they used you to continue with their dream, and when that was "Fulfilled" it was time for Destinys Child to stop.. and for Beyonce to emerge! I think people forget one thing here.. Beyonce does alot of talking in her interviews... and thinks that people will just listen, because she has sold Millions of Records! Truth be told.. there are many, MANY female artists that are alot more talented than Beyonce.. but she is marketed very well and is now just a BRAND! I dont like Brands, and I dont follow her on any social media! Out of all the girls, Beyonce is my least favourite! I guess, you have to ditch friends if you want to be famous - which means, they were never really your friends in the beginning! So many excuses with the Knowles family.. and not enough truth!!
16 years later and you sound still so pressed like it happened yesterday... Lol ok. They were young. They all moved on. Hell, they're all even friends again and Mathew manages NONE of them. So chill.
dazyoulegend Dang this is the realist comment. And they should do a reunion with the other girls. B is not going to let that happen because she does not want them to steal her shine. Latavia has been through so much they need to help her out since they were friends. I don't see how you could do that to someone.
I’m sure LeToya didn’t mean to be funny when she said, “It was conflicts going on. The departure was like this!” (snaps finger) but when I saw her say that, I fell out! She was funny as hell in this interview. I remember when it first aired on MTV News, there was another clip (that has since been deleted) of LeToya voicing her thoughts on the new members.. “I’m sure they’re enjoying the fame…” then she mouths “the fortune” along with the cutthroat gesture and LaTavia laughed LOUD! 😂😂😂 With LeToya’s spunky personality, I’m sure she lightened a lot of serious conversations and bad moods within the group. The original four was the perfect line up. They all completed each other.
I remember this. LeToya was always my favorite. Always had the best personality; I'm not surprised by her current success. Just imagine if Matthew would have ALLOWED her be "3rd lead vocalist". lol
The whole breakup move was a brilliant. Beyonce's father knew that she was good but not good enough to make it as a solo artist first. So, you build a fan base 1st, then you eliminate the competition whether they're just as talented or have the potential to be talented. You eliminate the strong personalities leaving the weaker 1(Kelly). You then replace the old two with two new chicks, that came into the group knowing their place (barely heard & rarely seen) Then you kick 1 of the newer females out which let the other new girl know "beyonce and her dad ain't playing." All the while. ... Beyonce is using the group as a training tool to get her vocals up..... and before you know it, BOOM. Deuces b***hes. I'm going solo. Lol. That was genius. But that's just my opinion.
So true. Record labels, Beyonce, her family - everyone knew she wasn't marketable enough, she didn't have the natural star power to be a solo-artist. So they did the girl group thing to build credibility, to always highlight Beyonce and put her in the middle, and then slowly launched her solo career.
This would've been nice if Columbia Records had not offered Beyonce the solo deal before they even offered the group deal. Originally Columbia Records only wanted to sign Beyonce.
Formerly Beyoncé ENNTV, I don't want come u some type of way but that claim is actually false. Tommy mottola admitted in his memior, which was released last year, that when DC first audition for Sony Music, he and his whole staff thought Latoya luckett was a better vocalist, dancer, songwriter and overall entertainer than Beyoncé and she was the one that was secretly offered that solo deal. That claim was brought when DC the final trio lineup released the autobiography book Destiny's child survivors and Beyoncé wrote it was her who was offered but it wasn't.
Groups are unique which helps them get in the door. But once they're in, hardly any groups stays together forever because we all have individual aspirations. It is always great to see reunions every now and then. Nostalgia always gets to me
Anyone else notice that after these 2 strong ladies got kicked out Beyonce's personality became stronger? I think they overshadowed Beyonce & Kelly. Matthew couldn't have that.
Yep. They were in the "Girls Time" group loooong before there was a Bey & Kelli. So yes, you are right, they absolutely had to go. They know how Matt & Tina bootstrapped and hijacked and STOLE that group away from Andretta Tillman.
Tony Smith she has social anxiety. That's why she rarely does things that involve having to talk to a lot of people. She just sings and dance on tours then go back to wherever she lives for a couple years until the next world tour.
Exactly! That’s why they wanted her in a group so that people couldn’t notice that. However, Letoya and Latavia have strong personalities which caused them to get kicked out.
At the end of the day, Matthew Knowles is responsible for all the business moves Destiny's Child made. He cut them out the group and he put those in the group in their respective roles. Beyonce might have said some things but clearly she was Matthew's mouthpiece, I mean thats her father.
Read "The Andretta Tillman Story" and "The Making of DC." That group was created, sponsored by, well practiced, established and got signed to a major label BEFORE Matt Knowles. He stole something that was already alive and well-known loooong before he came into the picture. The only thing he did was steal, not f up and follow the existing blue print. They have an excellent p.r. team that created MYTH of the MK business genius.
I think this was the million dollar point where Matthew was making it Beyonce and Kelly and their background singers. Letoya and Latavia were out spoken. With Matthew owning the name, as manager and the father and guardian of Beyonce and Kelly, his say overruled causing a wedge with Bey and Kelly on one side and Latavia and Latoya on another. I agree with Matthew; it is absurd to have two managers over the same group and another slice of the pie would have to be shared ( which he was probably stealing from them anyway). I think at a certain point when a lot of money is being made, legal contracts come into place. At that point it's no longer something fun for the kids to do after school. It's about marketing and making money and of course as his daughter, Matthew was going to put Beyonce first. He took Kelly in since her parents weren't there for her but I believe if she had complained about the situation as well, Beyonce would have been a solo artist a long time ago.
I saw pictures of Beyonce reuniting each with Letoya and Latavia and it was the nicest thing I have seen so far. The drama is history and they all want peace with one another in the end.
The fact that Letoya & Latavia wanted to reunite with Bey let’s me know Bey was never the problem 😂. I agree with they should’ve had a notice about them not being in the group anymore… but that was not Beyoncé’s fault. As we can see, it was none of them… just confusion about positions.
It warms my heart that that all original members have reconciled. That said...I know they were young when they did this interview, but Kelly and Beyonce were being messy as hell in this interview. "They slapped a lawsuit on us. Thats a whole lotta love" ?? Uhh didn't your dad/manager replace them without their knowledge?? And B and Kelly didn't say "hey, they stay! We started this together. Lets work it out." No...y'all went along with it...hence the law suit.
i feel like at there age i would do the same. im a teenager so i know if i believe in my dad and only see his positivity i will follow behind what he says and convince myself hes right too. not on purpose but subconsciously. thats what Bey did. her dad was corrupt but as they say, "love is blind" the saying goes for family too. sad but true. from what bey used to talk about her dad, she sounded like a daddys girl. now she still thanks him but i believe she sees the evilness that others saw especially since he did her wrong. kelly also believed in mathew for all he did for her which made her not want to say anything. its like when your in a relationship/friendship with someone who is the nicest person towards you but is mean to everyone else . then your also viewed negatively because you associate with them. your so stuck on what you think that person is that the wrong they do becomes brushed off until it happens to you. thats when you see.
exactly. hell, the song "Daddy"... she clearly loved that man. as she should have. he truly did a LOT for her and it likely kept her from seeing the bad. same with Kelly. and they were like, actual children.
@@AyeshaDeuxtu we all are weak willed and weak minded in one way or another at some point or another.thank you for reminding me of my humanity and need for God.
Beyoncé is lying here but honestly it's just what she's been taught, her father brainwashed her. His goal was to make Beyoncé a huge superstar and he succeeded. He even bought grammys (was a member of the commitee) for both the group and his daughter and stole songwriting credits cause her girl can't write songs. He said " What sells records is people believing that the artist is everything". These frauds and Jay Z made Beyoncé who she is today. As for Kelly, I like her but she should stop with the "sister thing" in order to separate herself once and for all from her cousin.
I couldn't have said any of that better myself, I would also include though that Matthew TRIED to ruin Toya & Tavia's career but the world sees how Ms. LeToya has blossomed into a successful singer & actress on her own.
& yes Beyoncé is lying her ass off here, LeToya & LaTavia always said that they had no idea that they were no longer in the group until they saw the SayMyName video. They said that every since 2000 & Beyoncé's & Kelly's story has changed numerous times since the breakup.
Its actually crazy to see them be so upfront and honest about them having problems and that shady comment about the lawsuit from Beyonce was hilarious "thats alot of love!". They would never go into so much details nowdays
Beautiful dreams but it will neva happen. Nope. Beyonce is never going to let Matt earn another dime offa her name bc of the way he (cheated, humiliated) dogged her Mama out. The cheating with girls that were Bey's age and younger. The outside babies. Matt owns DC out right so that's why we have zero DC moments. Bey is squeezing his pockets for life, lol.
I remember when the break up happened i was so devastated i watched the say my name video and was like who are these girls then i seen it all over the internet i was so mad that i had stopped liking destinys child for awile
They was coachin Bee off camera during her "they knew..." speech, her and Kelly both looked off camera then Bee said "I cant get into it legally". They didnt wanna get sued again!!!
Does No One get that everything in the entertainment industry is planned and manufactured from the get go!! The damn group was not called Destiny's Children, it was Destiny's Child. Beyonce was lead vocals, and managed by her own father, so of course its Beyonce who ends up rising up in a cookie cutter like, predictable pattern for musical vocal groups, leading to One Singular Super Star!! Jackson Five, New Kids On The Block, Diana Ross, Pink was in a girl group to begin with, Justin Timberlake, hell it only doesn't happen like that if someone dies unexpectedly like in TLC, or if no one has a little more talent then the others like in Backstreet Boys, or the one with talent dies like the Beatles! Beyonce is, was, and from the get go, molded to Be Destiny's Child!! And what does that say about her, her family, and their egos and ambitions? They are the Kardasians with at least one member having actual talent!! They lie about it to appear modest since anything close to the truth would be unseemly and unattractive and therefore a liability! The Industry uses this tactic and groups like this to train them from a young age, for long term investment, and they use this pattern to find the best of the group and Pimp them out for as much money as possible!! Everything's about money, and the most effective, best, easy to duplicate and reproduce! And for the formula that will produce the best results and gain for their Investments and endorsements, long term, as in over a decade of popularity and revenue! Duh!! Zayn from One D knew this and tried to undercut Harry Styles before he could get good enough to leave the group himself. People are not naive any more, they can see and therefore use and abuse the patterns and formulas for themselves!! Or see it and do not like the twisted egotism of it and find the groups unattractive!! Its all a ploy, a game, a manipulation of reality, to make the most money and the most power.
As far as the lawsuit goes, how else were the original members going to get credit for the work they put in? Beyonce and Kelly clearly didn't know the meaning of business! Mathew should've never taken control of that group. He's the sole reason they're not together today.
Honestly my favorite group memeber was Latavia. I loved her sex appeal and how she was. I thought Letoya was the prettiest and had the best personality. Then when they left I chose Beyonce. She has came a long way but I thought the other two girls were talented at that time. I always thought Letoya and Latavia was cousins. They look alike to me.
+Ashley J Totally agreed!!! From the moment I first laid eyes on Letoya, I said to myself, My God what a beautiful girl she is; I never paid too much attention to Bey Or Kellz.
Yesss, with her being so private it & not responding makes them seem true. I dislike politically correct bey. Jay-z has something to do with it in my opinion.
@@Dominiquevideos1 her not speaking about does not make it seem true at all lol y’all literally be saying anything these comments! Ever heard of the saying “ it ain’t what they call you, it’s what you answer too”!
I remember when I first saw the Say my Name video and when I saw the two new members I noticed how they tried to make Farrah look like Latavia and Michelle look like Letoya
It happened over 20 years ago but I'm STILL not gonna accept it...sorry...they need to get back...no old management involved...just women, best friends...sisters...I'm not over this and I'm never getting over it until they reunite
I went to one of their first concerts … it was for the promotion of their first cd !! It was about 40 of us outside looking at them sing . We were all outside lol
When I first saw the Say My Name video and saw Michelle Williams and Farrah I was like what's going on. I don't understand why LeToya was let go her voice paired better with Beyonce.
Gurlll I was so in love with Letoya that when “Say My Name” came out I was so confused bc I knew my woman’s face, but Michelle didn’t look anything like her. Until their next video came out I just couldn’t clue in that they got replaced haha I thought Letoya got her face done🤣
The end was funny, Beyonce seemed more sad when about the possibility of the group ending than the loss of the actual friendship. Listen closely to her final words in this clip. Take notes people, this is a cold world. Treat people right, but don't be stupid enough to believe that they will always have your back because they may not.
When looking back @ old footage from when the group was first formed. You can tell she was difficult and controlling. In one of the clips, she's seen correcting Kelly, then says, "But you're still in the group. Like her father, both thought they were invincible.
Destiny's Child is just like The Temptations, they had enough ex group members LeToya and LaTavia could've started a Destiny's Child of their very own the way David Ruffin did! But what difference did it make who was apart of the group & who wasn't, whether it was Kelly, Michelle, LeToya, LaTavia, & Farrah or "The Mamas" the only person you were ever gonna hear was Beyoncé. They were Diana Ross & The Supremes all over again. TLC was a girl group, not Destiny's Child.
I wonder what would have happened in Kelly actually had a backbone during this time. What would have happened had Kelly, Letoya, and Latavia either threatened to kick Beyonce out, or actually do it. Destiny's Child probably needed Beyonce, but I think Kelly should have tried to support the others members more.
@@jaywest3734 it wouldn't be possible to kick Beyoncé out of the group cause her father was managing the group at that time like keily Williams mom was managing 3lw and Kelly would have been kicked to the curve along with Latavia and Letoya
Those girls must have had a hard time, they had no chance against the Knowles, Beyoncé says she's glad she found new members and months later fires the new member. Kelly kept her mouth shut so she would not lose her place. And even Beyoncé could not cope with her firing him years later.
I think true vindication would be Kelly and Beyoncé giving the founder members their flowers and a public apology. Idc how many years it’s been. They followed suit eventually and fired Matthew as well. Smh
It’s giving Beyoncé and Kelly lied because Letoya and Latavia ain’t change in decades and for Kelly and Beyoncé to never acknowledge the lies ain’t cool
Well It’s Kinda Obvious To See When Destiny’s Child Was Being Interviewed And LeToya Was Being Heard That Beyoncé Didn’t Like That 1 Bit...Looks As If Beyoncé Wanted To Be The Only One To Speak By Answering All The Questions And LeToya Wasn’t Having It. Good For Her. “LL” a Leader, Most Def. Not a Follower. Mad Props!! 👍🏽👍🏽
0:49 I noticed that too. Looks like Latoya tried to brush it off that Beyonce cut her off but a few seconds later she has a look like "so you just gonna cut me off?" Then Latoya's next comments seem to be out of defiance to let Beyonce know she can talk too.
At 0:58 it seems like Latoya is bringing up the video and date "December 27th" like she saw a memo or a msg that Beyonce, Kelly and Matthew didn't know she saw. Beyonce was pretending they were going home on break to throw them off but LeToya was like "we will be there on the 27th too"
conscut yep you are so right. I peeped that too. letoya was like wait a minute, we not just going home to chill. we'll be making our new video too. you'd think that would be something they would naturally mention, since say my name was their current single at the time. Beyoncé most likely already knew the two girls wouldn't make it to film the video, so that's why it seems she's Tryna throw it off... but letoya caught that. yes they were having problems around that time but hell obviously Latavia and letoya had no reason to believe they'd be cut weeks later from the group. what a fucked up way to leave them hanging... smh
conscut I think you're looking too much into it. That interview was on December 1st, Letoya & Latavia didn't send the letter over to Matthew until December 11th or 12th. So presumably at this point Beyoncé & Kelly had no idea of what was about to happen with the group. & December 27th was the original date to shoot the Say My Name video (as LeToya mentioned here), but since they sent the letter over to Matthew a few weeks before the video shoot, the video was postponed and not filmed until late January or February I believe
Abilio Campos ?? Don't know where you're getting that from. I never said they lied lol. I just restated what was in the video. You might want to watch it again. They were kicked out! They sent the letter to Matthew & were told that things were going to be put on hold. They didn't know that Beyoncé & Kelly were going to go ahead and film the video without them.
Brilliant move by the manager dad. The group had been working for 7-8 years when they finally got signed and in '97 their debut single "No, No, No" feat Wyclef Jean topped the R&B chart and went to #3 on the Hot 100. The video was just as popular, the follow-up single "With Me' was released without a video.....and that single was ignored by Pop stations. A 3rd release from their debut album "Get On The Bus" featuring Timbaland was also ignored by Pop stations. A video for that single was released in '98. Their debut album "Destiny's Child" was released in '98 and sold over a million copies. In July '99 they released their 2nd album "The Writings On The Wall" and the lead single "Bills, Bills, Bills" broke Destiny's Child worldwide and became their 1rst #1 Hot 100 single. "Bug A Boo was the follow-up and it reached #33 on the Hot 100. Since their debut single was so huge, the label and dad expected the 2nd album to be a hit machine......but "Bug A Boo" kind of stalled. In radio, one day you're hot, the next day you're not. Dad needed that push to get America talking about his girl.....and when La Tavia & Le Toya wanted their own management .... Matthew decided to cut the 2 girls loose, release the 3rd single without them and instead he re;placed them with 2 new girls ....The video was brilliantly made because you catch glimpses of the 2 new girls but their faces are not prominently displayed. Which of course got America talking about whether or not those were the 2 original girls or not ? Which in turn creates buzz about the video, which in turn creates buzz about the 3rd single which was "Say My Name" (coincidentally...lol) So radio jumps on "Say My Name" Destiny's Child was a very new 4 member girl vocal group with Beyonce in the obvious lead so if you were not a die hard fan from the start .... You may have seen one of their first 4 videos....and recognized....2 of the members look way different. Then of course the story breaks that 2 of the members of one of the hottest girl groups of the 90's were fired or left the group after just having a #1 Single. Boom ! Now your daughter has that push she needed to get all of America talking and noticing your new song....and it goes to #1. The album sells over 8 million copies and the 4th single "Jumpin', Jumpin'" is also a top ten smash. Publicity and getting people talking...that's how you do it and sorry if you have to step on a few toes to get what you want out of life, but don't feel too sorry for La Tavia & La Toya......they got paid off.
Latoya and the other girl was probably complaining about them not seeing there money an he probably got mad because he was stealing from them an when they said they wanted another manager that probably pissed him off… he was like you know what ion like the fact that they know I’m stealing yeah y’all fired for being I in my business
Yea it was about getting a account of their percentage of royalties because it was obvious Beyoncé & Kelly got paid new expensive cars shopping etc…Letoya & Latavia moms sent a letter asking for the records Matthew refused so they hired a manager for their daughters Matthew fired them they sued and got the money he stole plus damages and later for that diss album survivor which was a breach of contract
I remember when this happened this is sad Matthew is the reason why Beyonce doesn't have any friends... these were young girls who were childhood friends Letoya and Latavia were right about Matthew he was a scam artist and conflict of interest because he was Beyonce's father.. At the end of the day they all fired him and their were rumours that he had been stealing money from Beyonce.. glad that they all now get along and hopefully they will reunite and do a one of performance together or even a tour... I would be front row for that
Beyonce and Kelly got nice ass care while the thee two got what?? Her dad played favoritism and they didnt wanna put up with it anymore. Bey and Kelly need to quit they shit .
How are you gonna be managed by the father of one of the group and there not be favoritism? Of course Beyonce's going to be in the know about things way before the other members.
I think it's always a record companies ultimate aim to break up the group and promote one star. It's cheaper. How many groups have you seen which last?
No, Matthew Knowles is. It's obvious from things that LeToya & LaTavia has said that Matthew was feeding Beyoncé and Kelly false information about the situation and portraying them as villains. He caused a lot of unneeded bitterness on both sides of the story.
It's kind of ironic that Latavia and Letoya got kicked out of the group for wanting to part ways with Matthew...Then Farrah quits for the same reason....Then Michelle and Kelly both fire him as their manager and finally Beyonce herself fires her dad....So maybe Latavia and Letoya had valid reason back in the day
exactly of course they had reasons.... Beyonce use to thank Kelly and say if it wasn't for Kelly DC3 would be no more. It was said, Kelly had issues too back then but I think Mattie Knowles and Beyonka got to her.
Beyoncé was Management.
well you have a point....lol
*blank stare* lol
You are right... When they went to Court...The judge found in favor of Lativia and Latoya and they had to pay an undisclosed amount of money to the girls So they were not telling LIES because they couldn't pay their BILLs...Bills.BILLS
TheRm2grow 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
a group in today's time would NEVER survive a controversal lineup change like this one...Mostly due to Social Media
@@girlgreenivy that's bad publicity.
iKETOURAGE you may have a point
iKETOURAGE this is so true, people would be like "um who are those new girls?" And then Latavia would have gone on social media and said it was matthew and bey and twitter would have Matthew's tail up. As society is now, none of these girls would have made it because racist yte executives aren't trying to promote black acts.
@@theactualtruth4951 100%! So well put
Yap
I hope people realize it was Matthew's fault. Point blank period
And it still is thats why DC3 aint getting back together anytime soon. Matthew still owns the name destinys child and is still manager of the group. Which would mean bey kelly amd michelle would have to deal with his ass today, which none of them probably want to. Especially beyonce she cut him off after he had all of them other kids with strippers outta wedlock smfh. R.i.p destinys child.
Rashad H. you know they gonna blame Beyonce when it's clear from both sides she or Kelly had nothing to do with it
It is but people still want to blame Beyonce for the breakup when the girls have said it had nothing to do with her or Kelly.
TheButtermilkgirl LeToya n LaTavia Said bad thins about them on a blog back in 2000,about Solange start to be a back up dancer for DC (i dont know What they said) . So they did an agreement to not atack each other on the media,But Beyoncé still have a clap back on the Survivor lyrics,where she sings the group sold more without them and they not gonna diss them on internet ,cause her mom teachs her better. And the girls sued DC over Survivor lyrics too.
Yea I agree it was Matthews fault but I feel like Bey knew what was going on, and if they were real friends of many years she should have stepped in to defend them and get them to compromise and come to an agreement rather then letting her father fire them. I know this was years ago and she was young but I would've defended my friends period
Back when Beyonce had to explain herself. She would never do this today.
Everrrr
Gay boy
She learned from Jay
@@khjdakjdhkajhd shut up bitch
People are going to believe what they wanna believe so why even explain
I don't care what anyone says, the best DC lineup was Beyonce, Kelly, LeToya & LaTavia #original
The harmonies were much tighter. Beyonce should have let the others sing live and sing lead.
DC3 had good harmony but I don't care for Michelle's voice solo.
No way DC->3 forever Kelly Beyoncé Michelle
3BuckHead Nope it’s Michelle, Kelly, and Beyoncé
@@christians2015 ok, tell that to the 238+ people that agreed with me cause trust me, there will be more.
i love Beyonce but she was lying her ass off...they did those girls bogus
Gabrielle Barrios Beyoncé and Kelly did nothing, it was Mathew Knowles fault
@@rydercdaniels4475 yeah it was his fault but it was also Beyonce's and Kelly Rowland's for being so brainwashed
You can tell she was lying through her teeth
Sure did
Well why do you love someone so shady?
I think the replacement of Letoya and Latavia was a carefully constructed way to make Beyonce the focal point of Destiny's Child.
I agree with that,I think Beyonce was always suppose to be the main focus.how selfish of her father because they all had talent.
When was Beyonce not the focal point of the group though?
Yep!!! Latoya could not stay. She was too stunning for Beyoncé.
Yes.. the original girls definitely had too much spunk. The new girls were definitely yes men.
EXACTLY, with them she wasn't standing out as much. But when they got rid of the familiar faces, the public would have to chose the ones still in the group to pay closer attention to.
It's time for the movie no shade!!
Wayne Ohmar Now you KNOW Beyonce will have to have her say it. lol
Wayne Ohmar someone call lifetime
They need to get that woman that plays the Mona girl from the Hulu movie Bad Hair, to play Kelly, cause she looks exactly like her
Dreamgirls as well as Wyclefs premonition at the end of No No No part 2
Real talk
Kelly’s face says it all...”we lyin” 😂
NAH FRFR 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yup lol
🤣🤣😂😂🤣
She could hardly make eye contact 😏
Lmao
Beyonce her mom, dad and the label was so foul back then. They treated the former group members wrong
Very wrong
And stole money
What did Beyonce and her mom do. They had no power to kick them out, that was management and the label, and the Label could have overruled Matthew but chose not to.
Hat Sheshupt just father
Beyonce had a Jag, Kelly a Mercedes and LaToya had a Volvo that her granny gave her and Latavia didn't have a car so you tell me WTF Beyonce's dad was doing.
Neb Sen ikr! Fuck that nigga (and i hate using that word)
@@user-vg8ez9cu6u he deserves it
YO ARE YOU SERIOUS RIGHT NOW?! HIS TAIL WAS STEALING MONEY FROM THEM, AND THAT'S WHY THEY FIRED HIM?! YO HE'S STRAIGHT UP TRASH, I CAN'T STAND PROBLEMATIC PARENTS YO WITH HIS NO TALENT HAVING SELF!!
Math wasn’t mathing 😂
We all know exactly what he was doing
Letoya and Latavia were fine with Matthew being the group’s manager but they didn’t want him as their personal manager. I’m not sure why that was an issue because other groups have separate managers. I think Matthew wanted to have more money and control over the girls.
He said Columbia wouldn’t deal with two managers for the group. They wanted a personal manager…for the group.
Lol kelly just nodding along but deep down she like beyonce you lying
MissNWO that's why I never cared for Kelly she's never had her own identity even when she tried to go solo it wasn't rec'd bc ppl felt the lack of authenticity
@@aaleyah5380 yes she had no choice but to be Beyonce's puppet as the Knowles took her in their home
Lol
Kelly was a follow the leader type & they used that to their advantage.
Kelemdria Rowland aka Kelly and Tenitra Williams aka Michelle are doormats they even allowed management to change their names so only Beyonce would have a memorable name.
Beyonce be like: I'm a real ass friend, I'm so loyal, but didn't have the nerves not to tell her friends they got kicked out
Keyon Murray exactly
They also didn't tell Beyoncé and Kelly , they was about to end the managment with Mathew
@@abilio8637 exactly. the fact that they didn't tell them is pretty much why Bey and Kelly moved on without them - they were hurt, which turned to anger/resentment. they also felt like it was purposefully dramatic because they KNEW the SMN video was to be shot in two weeks.
They found out from the video 😂
Beyonce literally said they couldn't sing lead which was a huge insult.
Funny how Matthew is nowhere to be found now. None of the ladies have him in their lives. Ironic
Beyoncé knew what she was doing the whole time
Right!
it was her father not her
it was beyoncé's dad not her
excatly
Henry Ferguson Her dad too
B seems like she is lying..
fr fr . early fakeness n bs lol
+Nona Feaniqx Kmsl!
Reginald Davenport I said the same thing. Just by the tone in her voice and the way she was talking
She is
@joseph adel Beyonce changed up her story so many times and each one was nonsense. Latavia and Toya story remained consistent.
Letoya was so underrated
Still is
@@i_c_e_555 terms in album sales Beyoncé & LeToya are doing better but to know by someone it Beyoncé & Kelly
When she dropped Torn, my younger self didn't realize she was one of the OGs from Destiny's Child. That song was a pretty big hit when competition was fierce (no pun intended)
1:23 LeToya is so silly, 1st of all I was like naw u playing SHUT UP!! Lol. I love her sense of humor.
She is really an IT girl . They definitely has to get her out the group . Lol
Kelly was such a "Yes Man" back then lol...
FrozenRemix1 Still is.
@____ ____ if Mathew was her manager she probably don't have millions
@@s.k.zuidema2873 when it comes to Beyonce she is a yes man
@____ ____ not if Mathew Knowles was her manager. She may have generated millions but pretty sure her manager took a huge cut from it
@________ y’all all ways use money to determine fuck shit .
LeToya was the biggest lost on this group. She can sing so well as beyoncé does.
Letoya was arguably better.
Not really Beyoncé and Michelle were the best two singers out of the
5
Letoya, Kelly, and Beyonce were the best singers of all 5.
@@tias.6675 not at all Michelle is the second best
@@KingDreGamer Maybe as a solo artist. She isn't
better than Letoya Luckett
It’s just sad these were childhood friends and how money can change that.
I tend to believe that money had a lot of help from various people.
This story is so tired and old.. What struck me was Bey saying "She took it upon herself to call them like a woman and tell them" ummm okay then
LeKa Danielle yeah that part always made me cringe. “Bigger woman” my foot.
@@swiftlydoesit8480 she was lying, the interviewer should of called her out on it .
right. she was full of shit and lying.
@@yezmirsheppard-halika6892 lol
that was a shot at LeToya and LaTavia not telling them about the disaffirmation before they did it.
All I can say is that "True Friends" dont do that! Beyonce said " There have been comments on the radio, which I cant get into for legal reasons" BITCH.. stop lying!! If there were comments on the radio, then you can discuss it. I dont care who Beyonce has become.. she lied here and many other interviews on this subject. Matthew also said "Columbia records would never deal with 2 managers for the group" Well.. if that is the case, then he, as their manager, should of said to Letoya and Latavia and their parents.. "Is there something that I can try to help with? As your Manager, I would like to address any concerns you may have and come to a resolution. You both have been apart of this group from inception, and its my job to ensure that you are happy" Also.. Kelly should speak up! Kelly wonders why she isnt doing as well as Beyonce! Sorry.. Kelly, you have no backbone, no courage to speak against Beyonce, for fear that you will do damage to your friendship and your Career. Friendship is all about truth, loyalty and being able to be honest with your friend, weather they like it or not! Who wants a fake friend? Oh.. Kelly does. Michelle.. you came in and helped save these girls.. they used you to continue with their dream, and when that was "Fulfilled" it was time for Destinys Child to stop.. and for Beyonce to emerge! I think people forget one thing here.. Beyonce does alot of talking in her interviews... and thinks that people will just listen, because she has sold Millions of Records! Truth be told.. there are many, MANY female artists that are alot more talented than Beyonce.. but she is marketed very well and is now just a BRAND! I dont like Brands, and I dont follow her on any social media! Out of all the girls, Beyonce is my least favourite! I guess, you have to ditch friends if you want to be famous - which means, they were never really your friends in the beginning! So many excuses with the Knowles family.. and not enough truth!!
16 years later and you sound still so pressed like it happened yesterday... Lol ok. They were young. They all moved on. Hell, they're all even friends again and Mathew manages NONE of them. So chill.
WOW...I HEAR YA 🤔😔🤐
you're so right one reason i dont fvcks with kelly no more beyonce is a selfish bitch
dazyoulegend Dang this is the realist comment. And they should do a reunion with the other girls. B is not going to let that happen because she does not want them to steal her shine. Latavia has been through so much they need to help her out since they were friends. I don't see how you could do that to someone.
You sound so mad over something that happened years ago
I just want a reunion with Latoya and latavia
I hope they don't come back to that toxic environnement
We Need That
Lol this will NEVER happen
@@monica62888 I know I know, but a girl can dream lol
@@RaquelCGary 😂 right ✅️
I’m sure LeToya didn’t mean to be funny when she said, “It was conflicts going on. The departure was like this!” (snaps finger) but when I saw her say that, I fell out! She was funny as hell in this interview. I remember when it first aired on MTV News, there was another clip (that has since been deleted) of LeToya voicing her thoughts on the new members.. “I’m sure they’re enjoying the fame…” then she mouths “the fortune” along with the cutthroat gesture and LaTavia laughed LOUD! 😂😂😂 With LeToya’s spunky personality, I’m sure she lightened a lot of serious conversations and bad moods within the group. The original four was the perfect line up. They all completed each other.
Omggg i wanna see that interview!!😂😂
I remember this. LeToya was always my favorite. Always had the best personality; I'm not surprised by her current success. Just imagine if Matthew would have ALLOWED her be "3rd lead vocalist". lol
I laughed too. Love her personality lol.
The whole breakup move was a brilliant. Beyonce's father knew that she was good but not good enough to make it as a solo artist first. So, you build a fan base 1st, then you eliminate the competition whether they're just as talented or have the potential to be talented. You eliminate the strong personalities leaving the weaker 1(Kelly). You then replace the old two with two new chicks, that came into the group knowing their place (barely heard & rarely seen) Then you kick 1 of the newer females out which let the other new girl know "beyonce and her dad ain't playing." All the while. ... Beyonce is using the group as a training tool to get her vocals up..... and before you know it, BOOM. Deuces b***hes. I'm going solo. Lol. That was genius. But that's just my opinion.
I literally LOL'd at your comment
brandon brown I'm just saying
So true. Record labels, Beyonce, her family - everyone knew she wasn't marketable enough, she didn't have the natural star power to be a solo-artist. So they did the girl group thing to build credibility, to always highlight Beyonce and put her in the middle, and then slowly launched her solo career.
This would've been nice if Columbia Records had not offered Beyonce the solo deal before they even offered the group deal. Originally Columbia Records only wanted to sign Beyonce.
Formerly Beyoncé ENNTV, I don't want come u some type of way but that claim is actually false. Tommy mottola admitted in his memior, which was released last year, that when DC first audition for Sony Music, he and his whole staff thought Latoya luckett was a better vocalist, dancer, songwriter and overall entertainer than Beyoncé and she was the one that was secretly offered that solo deal. That claim was brought when DC the final trio lineup released the autobiography book Destiny's child survivors and Beyoncé wrote it was her who was offered but it wasn't.
Groups are unique which helps them get in the door. But once they're in, hardly any groups stays together forever because we all have individual aspirations.
It is always great to see reunions every now and then.
Nostalgia always gets to me
Anyone else notice that after these 2 strong ladies got kicked out Beyonce's personality became stronger? I think they overshadowed Beyonce & Kelly. Matthew couldn't have that.
Yep. They were in the "Girls Time" group loooong before there was a Bey & Kelli. So yes, you are right, they absolutely had to go. They know how Matt & Tina bootstrapped and hijacked and STOLE that group away from Andretta Tillman.
😂😂😂 what a crock of 💩 why they still nobody now
Ohh woww thats news to me nena so beyonce was technically the new kid in the camp? I thought this was her group tf
Lmao that's why Latavia was the spokesperson for the group Beyoncé cannot articulate her thoughts well or at least she couldn't back then!
Tony Smith she has social anxiety. That's why she rarely does things that involve having to talk to a lot of people. She just sings and dance on tours then go back to wherever she lives for a couple years until the next world tour.
@@sherkarradawkins4971 she is an introvert
Exactly! That’s why they wanted her in a group so that people couldn’t notice that. However, Letoya and Latavia have strong personalities which caused them to get kicked out.
No she just doesn't have the speaking voice. It's almost like you can't take what she says seriously.
@@lindat.7520 yeah it's like everytime she talks she's about to bust out laughing.
At the end of the day, Matthew Knowles is responsible for all the business moves Destiny's Child made. He cut them out the group and he put those in the group in their respective roles. Beyonce might have said some things but clearly she was Matthew's mouthpiece, I mean thats her father.
Read "The Andretta Tillman Story" and "The Making of DC." That group was created, sponsored by, well practiced, established and got signed to a major label BEFORE Matt Knowles. He stole something that was already alive and well-known loooong before he came into the picture. The only thing he did was steal, not f up and follow the existing blue print. They have an excellent p.r. team that created MYTH of the MK business genius.
Men always steal from woMen. Plus, I read that two other women discovered beyonce aswell
@@nena_gz yep and not to mention he threatened to take Beyoncé out of the group if he wasn't manager
Beyonce better thank letoya because without her I wouldn't had been interest in this group at all.
PrettyPurpleful i totally agree 1000%
Never heard that before...interesting.
@@kjdnyhmghfvb right lol these folks will say anything on this app
Beyonce was responsible for their success anyways you better thank her instead 😭
You and the other members all need to Thnk Beyonce. Without her nobody would have heard of this group.
You can tell Beyoncé was lying through her teeth
I think this was the million dollar point where Matthew was making it Beyonce and Kelly and their background singers. Letoya and Latavia were out spoken. With Matthew owning the name, as manager and the father and guardian of Beyonce and Kelly, his say overruled causing a wedge with Bey and Kelly on one side and Latavia and Latoya on another. I agree with Matthew; it is absurd to have two managers over the same group and another slice of the pie would have to be shared ( which he was probably stealing from them anyway). I think at a certain point when a lot of money is being made, legal contracts come into place. At that point it's no longer something fun for the kids to do after school. It's about marketing and making money and of course as his daughter, Matthew was going to put Beyonce first. He took Kelly in since her parents weren't there for her but I believe if she had complained about the situation as well, Beyonce would have been a solo artist a long time ago.
one of the most balanced comments here!
Very well stated indeed
That’s a lie! Kelly’s mom was always in her life and took care of her.
Soooo shady! I believe LeToya.
Me too.
Beyonce seems shady
Even though my dawg Beyoncé is shady as fuck!! her new album is the shit!!!!!! & she still a boss ass bitch!
ashrick718 I read your first then second comment LOL
ashrick711966c
she didnt like aaliyah....
CaLMCee That's a lie.. Bey loved Aaliyah
The two that are telling the truth are looking at the cam and speaking clearly. The two that are lying are stuttering and looking around.
LaToya and Tavia had every right to sue them. Love Bey, love Kelly but yes they did what should have been done and yes Matthew was at fault.
I saw pictures of Beyonce reuniting each with Letoya and Latavia and it was the nicest thing I have seen so far. The drama is history and they all want peace with one another in the end.
Beyonce sent LeToya a closet worth of new clothes for her first child during her first pregancy.
The fact that Letoya & Latavia wanted to reunite with Bey let’s me know Bey was never the problem 😂. I agree with they should’ve had a notice about them not being in the group anymore… but that was not Beyoncé’s fault. As we can see, it was none of them… just confusion about positions.
@@PuraVidaLifestyleBaby Mathew was the problem, he should’ve been fired earlier on into DC
@@PuraVidaLifestyleBaby It was Beyonce's fault too. She could've stood up for Latavia and Letoya and allowed her Dad to removed them like he did.
@@sunbabbyyy1776 I argree
It warms my heart that that all original members have reconciled. That said...I know they were young when they did this interview, but Kelly and Beyonce were being messy as hell in this interview. "They slapped a lawsuit on us. Thats a whole lotta love" ?? Uhh didn't your dad/manager replace them without their knowledge?? And B and Kelly didn't say "hey, they stay! We started this together. Lets work it out." No...y'all went along with it...hence the law suit.
i feel like at there age i would do the same. im a teenager so i know if i believe in my dad and only see his positivity i will follow behind what he says and convince myself hes right too. not on purpose but subconsciously. thats what Bey did. her dad was corrupt but as they say, "love is blind" the saying goes for family too. sad but true. from what bey used to talk about her dad, she sounded like a daddys girl. now she still thanks him but i believe she sees the evilness that others saw especially since he did her wrong. kelly also believed in mathew for all he did for her which made her not want to say anything. its like when your in a relationship/friendship with someone who is the nicest person towards you but is mean to everyone else . then your also viewed negatively because you associate with them. your so stuck on what you think that person is that the wrong they do becomes brushed off until it happens to you. thats when you see.
+Nish Heard yes girl!!! truth all the way
yeah my dad is like that... brw ur really beautiful
You weak minded 🙄
exactly. hell, the song "Daddy"... she clearly loved that man. as she should have. he truly did a LOT for her and it likely kept her from seeing the bad. same with Kelly. and they were like, actual children.
@@AyeshaDeuxtu we all are weak willed and weak minded in one way or another at some point or another.thank you for reminding me of my humanity and need for God.
Beyoncé is lying here but honestly it's just what she's been taught, her father brainwashed her. His goal was to make Beyoncé a huge superstar and he succeeded. He even bought grammys (was a member of the commitee) for both the group and his daughter and stole songwriting credits cause her girl can't write songs. He said " What sells records is people believing that the artist is everything". These frauds and Jay Z made Beyoncé who she is today. As for Kelly, I like her but she should stop with the "sister thing" in order to separate herself once and for all from her cousin.
+twarren20 yooo word!!!
claps loudly!
You talking like you know these people.
I couldn't have said any of that better myself, I would also include though that Matthew TRIED to ruin Toya & Tavia's career but the world sees how Ms. LeToya has blossomed into a successful singer & actress on her own.
& yes Beyoncé is lying her ass off here, LeToya & LaTavia always said that they had no idea that they were no longer in the group until they saw the SayMyName video. They said that every since 2000 & Beyoncé's & Kelly's story has changed numerous times since the breakup.
Its actually crazy to see them be so upfront and honest about them having problems and that shady comment about the lawsuit from Beyonce was hilarious "thats alot of love!". They would never go into so much details nowdays
I would love to see a DC 5. Letoya, Latvia, Beyonce, Kelly and Michelle do a whole show.
Beautiful dreams but it will neva happen. Nope. Beyonce is never going to let Matt earn another dime offa her name bc of the way he (cheated, humiliated) dogged her Mama out. The cheating with girls that were Bey's age and younger. The outside babies. Matt owns DC out right so that's why we have zero DC moments. Bey is squeezing his pockets for life, lol.
Add Farrah too why not just like New Edition
@@Dymndzr4ever Farrah wasn't there long terms like the others
Kelly is her damn shadow
Destiny’s child should’ve hired a new manager after they got signed. It’s shady to have your father in control of the group.
I remember when the break up happened i was so devastated i watched the say my name video and was like who are these girls then i seen it all over the internet i was so mad that i had stopped liking destinys child for awile
i remember too when farrah franklin and michelle join the group in 2000
Omg me too!
Same here.
They was coachin Bee off camera during her "they knew..." speech, her and Kelly both looked off camera then Bee said "I cant get into it legally". They didnt wanna get sued again!!!
Beyonce and Matthew did those girls dirty
Mister Randy Watson .... which is why Beyonce and her dad are not close today....Karma!
Yessss
@@feedyoudiamondsandpearls Beyonce too
Beyonce knew what her dad was doing.
@@harmony3279 what happend??? what did Beyonce do 😂
Does No One get that everything in the entertainment industry is planned and manufactured from the get go!! The damn group was not called Destiny's Children, it was Destiny's Child. Beyonce was lead vocals, and managed by her own father, so of course its Beyonce who ends up rising up in a cookie cutter like, predictable pattern for musical vocal groups, leading to One Singular Super Star!! Jackson Five, New Kids On The Block, Diana Ross, Pink was in a girl group to begin with, Justin Timberlake, hell it only doesn't happen like that if someone dies unexpectedly like in TLC, or if no one has a little more talent then the others like in Backstreet Boys, or the one with talent dies like the Beatles! Beyonce is, was, and from the get go, molded to Be Destiny's Child!! And what does that say about her, her family, and their egos and ambitions? They are the Kardasians with at least one member having actual talent!! They lie about it to appear modest since anything close to the truth would be unseemly and unattractive and therefore a liability! The Industry uses this tactic and groups like this to train them from a young age, for long term investment, and they use this pattern to find the best of the group and Pimp them out for as much money as possible!! Everything's about money, and the most effective, best, easy to duplicate and reproduce! And for the formula that will produce the best results and gain for their Investments and endorsements, long term, as in over a decade of popularity and revenue! Duh!! Zayn from One D knew this and tried to undercut Harry Styles before he could get good enough to leave the group himself. People are not naive any more, they can see and therefore use and abuse the patterns and formulas for themselves!! Or see it and do not like the twisted egotism of it and find the groups unattractive!! Its all a ploy, a game, a manipulation of reality, to make the most money and the most power.
ooh finally..the only smart and truthful eyes-opening comment i've read ... it is exactly like you said
+Thedeepesttruth i like "the damn group was not called Destiny's Children, it was Destiny's Child" kkk funny but true.
Actually JC Chasez sang more than Justin in NSYNC. Justin started getting pushed more and gaining more attention later on.
Shutup
This hurt my heart back then I only wanted the original on the video
As far as the lawsuit goes, how else were the original members going to get credit for the work they put in? Beyonce and Kelly clearly didn't know the meaning of business! Mathew should've never taken control of that group. He's the sole reason they're not together today.
Honestly my favorite group memeber was Latavia. I loved her sex appeal and how she was. I thought Letoya was the prettiest and had the best personality. Then when they left I chose Beyonce. She has came a long way but I thought the other two girls were talented at that time. I always thought Letoya and Latavia was cousins. They look alike to me.
+Ashley J Totally agreed!!! From the moment I first laid eyes on Letoya, I said to myself, My God what a beautiful girl she is; I never paid too much attention to Bey Or Kellz.
vabeachtiff Lol
that's what a LOT of people said before the blowup. most ppl liked latoya and letavia, then chose beyonce afterwards.
+Tiffany T Yup!
my fav was letoya...
I wish Bey would speak up like this right now! About the whole elevator thing, the divorce,fake baby bump and illuminati rumors.
Yesss, with her being so private it & not responding makes them seem true. I dislike politically correct bey. Jay-z has something to do with it in my opinion.
@@Dominiquevideos1 her not speaking about does not make it seem true at all lol y’all literally be saying anything these comments! Ever heard of the saying “ it ain’t what they call you, it’s what you answer too”!
@@Markpierce2674 it does. Stop kissing ass bitch
She would never . Her fans made her their God
Basically they all were supposed to be beyonce and her parents' doormat and if anyone spoke up they were out.
EXACTLY
I remember when I first saw the Say my Name video and when I saw the two new members I noticed how they tried to make Farrah look like Latavia and Michelle look like Letoya
Ik they were messy asf and weird like.. did they think we wont notice im so Confused
It happened over 20 years ago but I'm STILL not gonna accept it...sorry...they need to get back...no old management involved...just women, best friends...sisters...I'm not over this and I'm never getting over it until they reunite
I believe Letoya & Latavia 🤷🏽♂️
But beyonce is shady to the core
I went to one of their first concerts … it was for the promotion of their first cd !! It was about 40 of us outside looking at them sing . We were all outside lol
Was this in Canada?
Listen to Latavia speak and then Beyonce. Big difference.
I feel sorry Kelly, she was not her own self-assured person. Beyonce's puppy
Look at michelle face when beyonce talks i wonder what she was thinking lol
If anyone’s wondering what song is playing in the background beginning at 2:16, it’s Destiny’s Child- “Illusion (Destiny Club Mix)”
Imagine if they ALL WOULD OF FIRED MATTHEW‼️ we would got at least 3 more albums
It's sad when you see that this video is 15 years old and people still hate Beyonce for something that happen when she was a teenager.
When I first saw the Say My Name video and saw Michelle Williams and Farrah I was like what's going on. I don't understand why LeToya was let go her voice paired better with Beyonce.
Gurlll I was so in love with Letoya that when “Say My Name” came out I was so confused bc I knew my woman’s face, but Michelle didn’t look anything like her. Until their next video came out I just couldn’t clue in that they got replaced haha I thought Letoya got her face done🤣
I notice too and i tought Farrah was still LaTavia lol
Abilio Campos 😂😂😂😂
The end was funny, Beyonce seemed more sad when about the possibility of the group ending than the loss of the actual friendship. Listen closely to her final words in this clip. Take notes people, this is a cold world. Treat people right, but don't be stupid enough to believe that they will always have your back because they may not.
When looking back @ old footage from when the group was first formed. You can tell she was difficult and controlling. In one of the clips, she's seen correcting Kelly, then says, "But you're still in the group. Like her father, both thought they were invincible.
Beyonce is all about herself..Always will be. She is a total witch!!
this is heartbreaking sorry
Letoya and Latavia said on many occasions that the group falling apart had nothing to do with Beyonce or Kelly. Y'all just keep hating...
You can tell Beyonce was lying 🤥
Destiny's Child is just like The Temptations, they had enough ex group members LeToya and LaTavia could've started a Destiny's Child of their very own the way David Ruffin did!
But what difference did it make who was apart of the group & who wasn't, whether it was Kelly, Michelle, LeToya, LaTavia, & Farrah or "The Mamas" the only person you were ever gonna hear was Beyoncé. They were Diana Ross & The Supremes all over again. TLC was a girl group, not Destiny's Child.
Very true
I wonder what would have happened in Kelly actually had a backbone during this time. What would have happened had Kelly, Letoya, and Latavia either threatened to kick Beyonce out, or actually do it. Destiny's Child probably needed Beyonce, but I think Kelly should have tried to support the others members more.
I can see that
@@jaywest3734 it wouldn't be possible to kick Beyoncé out of the group cause her father was managing the group at that time like keily Williams mom was managing 3lw and Kelly would have been kicked to the curve along with Latavia and Letoya
@@jaywest3734 Kelly loved with the Knowles they helped her mom take care of her, so she wasn't going to say anything.
Letoya be cracking me up 😂😂😂😂
Latavia had the prettiest lips of the groups
She was the sexiest! No one was touching her sex appeal at all
I'm too obsessed with every outfit the group wore on their concerts.
Tina masterpieces
@@sbrooks729 Yes.
Beyoncé "Yep, that's alotta love" lol
Those girls must have had a hard time, they had no chance against the Knowles, Beyoncé says she's glad she found new members and months later fires the new member. Kelly kept her mouth shut so she would not lose her place. And even Beyoncé could not cope with her firing him years later.
Damn fifnt know about that last part
Beyoncé ain't give a damn about Kelly firing Mathew lol they ALL fired him in the space of about a year.
I think true vindication would be Kelly and Beyoncé giving the founder members their flowers and a public apology. Idc how many years it’s been. They followed suit eventually and fired Matthew as well. Smh
I’m still not over this ... and it’s 2020 now
2023 here 😮 still shocking
so, y'all understand how poor michelle was when she had to deal with B's family issues alone!
Y'all sound so delusional
At least give them a warning , Just don't kick them out like that
It’s giving Beyoncé and Kelly lied because Letoya and Latavia ain’t change in decades and for Kelly and Beyoncé to never acknowledge the lies ain’t cool
people need to stop blaming Beyoncé & Kelly for all this mess it happened years ago get a life get over it and move on❕
Exactly! People blaming Beyonce but she had no real say so. Her dad was the one that held the power to make those types of decisions
they let it happen
Well It’s Kinda Obvious To See When Destiny’s Child Was Being Interviewed And LeToya Was Being Heard That Beyoncé Didn’t Like That 1 Bit...Looks As If Beyoncé Wanted To Be The Only One To Speak By Answering All The Questions And LeToya Wasn’t Having It. Good For Her. “LL” a Leader, Most Def. Not a Follower. Mad Props!! 👍🏽👍🏽
0:49 I noticed that too. Looks like Latoya tried to brush it off that Beyonce cut her off but a few seconds later she has a look like "so you just gonna cut me off?" Then Latoya's next comments seem to be out of defiance to let Beyonce know she can talk too.
At 0:58 it seems like Latoya is bringing up the video and date "December 27th" like she saw a memo or a msg that Beyonce, Kelly and Matthew didn't know she saw. Beyonce was pretending they were going home on break to throw them off but LeToya was like "we will be there on the 27th too"
conscut yep you are so right. I peeped that too. letoya was like wait a minute, we not just going home to chill. we'll be making our new video too. you'd think that would be something they would naturally mention, since say my name was their current single at the time. Beyoncé most likely already knew the two girls wouldn't make it to film the video, so that's why it seems she's Tryna throw it off... but letoya caught that. yes they were having problems around that time but hell obviously Latavia and letoya had no reason to believe they'd be cut weeks later from the group. what a fucked up way to leave them hanging... smh
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conscut I think you're looking too much into it. That interview was on December 1st, Letoya & Latavia didn't send the letter over to Matthew until December 11th or 12th. So presumably at this point Beyoncé & Kelly had no idea of what was about to happen with the group. & December 27th was the original date to shoot the Say My Name video (as LeToya mentioned here), but since they sent the letter over to Matthew a few weeks before the video shoot, the video was postponed and not filmed until late January or February I believe
Brandon Brown so LaTavia and LeToya lied when they said that they found out was kicked out on the premiere of the video.
Abilio Campos ?? Don't know where you're getting that from. I never said they lied lol. I just restated what was in the video. You might want to watch it again. They were kicked out! They sent the letter to Matthew & were told that things were going to be put on hold. They didn't know that Beyoncé & Kelly were going to go ahead and film the video without them.
Brilliant move by the manager dad. The group had been working for 7-8 years when they finally got signed and in '97 their debut single "No, No, No" feat Wyclef Jean topped the R&B chart and went to #3 on the Hot 100. The video was just as popular, the follow-up single "With Me' was released without a video.....and that single was ignored by Pop stations. A 3rd release from their debut album "Get On The Bus" featuring Timbaland was also ignored by Pop stations. A video for that single was released in '98. Their debut album "Destiny's Child" was released in '98 and sold over a million copies. In July '99 they released their 2nd album "The Writings On The Wall" and the lead single "Bills, Bills, Bills" broke Destiny's Child worldwide and became their 1rst #1 Hot 100 single. "Bug A Boo was the follow-up and it reached #33 on the Hot 100. Since their debut single was so huge, the label and dad expected the 2nd album to be a hit machine......but "Bug A Boo" kind of stalled. In radio, one day you're hot, the next day you're not. Dad needed that push to get America talking about his girl.....and when La Tavia & Le Toya wanted their own management .... Matthew decided to cut the 2 girls loose, release the 3rd single without them and instead he re;placed them with 2 new girls ....The video was brilliantly made because you catch glimpses of the 2 new girls but their faces are not prominently displayed. Which of course got America talking about whether or not those were the 2 original girls or not ? Which in turn creates buzz about the video, which in turn creates buzz about the 3rd single which was "Say My Name" (coincidentally...lol) So radio jumps on "Say My Name" Destiny's Child was a very new 4 member girl vocal group with Beyonce in the obvious lead so if you were not a die hard fan from the start .... You may have seen one of their first 4 videos....and recognized....2 of the members look way different. Then of course the story breaks that 2 of the members of one of the hottest girl groups of the 90's were fired or left the group after just having a #1 Single. Boom ! Now your daughter has that push she needed to get all of America talking and noticing your new song....and it goes to #1. The album sells over 8 million copies and the 4th single "Jumpin', Jumpin'" is also a top ten smash. Publicity and getting people talking...that's how you do it and sorry if you have to step on a few toes to get what you want out of life, but don't feel too sorry for La Tavia & La Toya......they got paid off.
I dont think Mathew expected the 2 girls to tried to fired him,so he have a few weeks to decided What to do.
Good publicity bad publicity are all publicity in the world of entertainment
@@abilio8637they weren’t trying to firehim. They wanted someone else to manage them individually.
Sad those girls were used.
As private and quiet as Beyoncé is, She always made sure her side was heard. Interesting.
Latoya and the other girl was probably complaining about them not seeing there money an he probably got mad because he was stealing from them an when they said they wanted another manager that probably pissed him off… he was like you know what ion like the fact that they know I’m stealing yeah y’all fired for being I in my business
Yea it was about getting a account of their percentage of royalties because it was obvious Beyoncé & Kelly got paid new expensive cars shopping etc…Letoya & Latavia moms sent a letter asking for the records Matthew refused so they hired a manager for their daughters Matthew fired them they sued and got the money he stole plus damages and later for that diss album survivor which was a breach of contract
Toya is so pretty❤️
I remember when this happened this is sad Matthew is the reason why Beyonce doesn't have any friends... these were young girls who were childhood friends Letoya and Latavia were right about Matthew he was a scam artist and conflict of interest because he was Beyonce's father.. At the end of the day they all fired him and their were rumours that he had been stealing money from Beyonce.. glad that they all now get along and hopefully they will reunite and do a one of performance together or even a tour... I would be front row for that
Beyonce and Kelly got nice ass care while the thee two got what?? Her dad played favoritism and they didnt wanna put up with it anymore. Bey and Kelly need to quit they shit .
How are you gonna be managed by the father of one of the group and there not be favoritism? Of course Beyonce's going to be in the know about things way before the other members.
I think it's always a record companies ultimate aim to break up the group and promote one star. It's cheaper. How many groups have you seen which last?
Tlc and spice girls but I guess both groups ended prematurely for the departure of geri and left eye (rest her soul)
These reporters askin the questions were in their own heaven. "How did that make you feel", lol. Acting like therapists.
Look them up, Latavia and Letoya are doing amazing in spite of what happened to them as kids. Their destiny was not tied up with the group.
Matthew was the demon behind this break up. And don't think Beyonce didn't how what was going on either.
I like how LeToya and Latavia never spoke ill about B and Kelly.
Wow can't believe this interview was 22 yrs go I was 7yrs old.
No, Matthew Knowles is. It's obvious from things that LeToya & LaTavia has said that Matthew was feeding Beyoncé and Kelly false information about the situation and portraying them as villains. He caused a lot of unneeded bitterness on both sides of the story.
Similar to Jerry Heller with NWA except:
Letoya - Ice Cube
Beyonce - Eazy/Dre