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It seems like its going to be very similar to what with Naruto and sasuke in shippuden. Most likely vi will appeal to powder more than anyone else can. She and ekko get under powder skin when no one else really does. In Naruto sasuke was always calm for the most part. But Naruto was the one who always go to him. Which was basically a sign that Naruto could get through to him. Also i think savieka will be taking charge, that’s what her being in silcos office symbolized. Ekko and himodinger will try to bring good to the undercity. Mels mom will take jinx attack as a way to deal with the undercity and taking a place as a position of power in piltover. Afterwards, because everyone listens to her she can take advantage of their resources to fight the wars in her country. Jayce could’ve saved some of the council members with his hammer shield. But Mel might be in the hospital. Caitlyn will take charge for the hunt for powder because of the attack on her mom. Jinx symbolizes chaos, she’s too fast, good with bombs and gadgets, and and very bad with timing. Her trama makes her unstable. She was hurt by the undercity and piltover. So she’s on no ones side. It seems like she wants deal out the chaotic damage she has felt. And as for vi, Vander warn her not to go down the path with diving into her emotions and getting into fights. Vander regrets trying to rebel against piltover because it got people on both sides killed and trying to kill for silco who was like his brother. Vi punched powder out of anger and help make her, her ambush on silcos factory got a kid killed, and beating sivika didn’t help her. There’s damage in the under city. And damage in piltover after what powder did. It seems like for the sake of her sister, she’s going go down Vander way and try to maintain the peace.
There are more cinematics on the league universe, you can see Jinx messing piltover in one of those~ and you should watch the pages explaining each character, I'm sure Viktor will surprise you a lot ;)
So many people were always thinking the shot went to the moon. Why would you even think that? The moon was simply there it night time and maybe to make it look more cinematic. A RED MOON. Why would she shoot the moon, what would even one little bazuca shot do to the moon?
Also, Silco mirrored Vander. Vander wasn't willing to fight and potentially lose more people for his war... Silco wasn't willing to give up Jinx... He finally got why Vander didn't want to fight. "Is there anything more undoing than a daughter?"
Well, Vander and two daughters and two sons. Jokes aside, absolutely. Silco's progression was almost the same as Vander's. Over the years with Jinx, he stopped seeking war because he realized that there were things he was not willing to lose, while the people following him took it as being weak and started a mutiny (although failed). What a masterpiece of a show this is.
@@aaronyin9586 Where the fuck did you get that? The people following him were the ones not wanting a war, as it hurt their profits. It is clearly said.
@@aaronyin9586Even better is that Silco is purely a creation of the show. He's not a character from the game with established lore, and they created him and he is practically flawless in his role in the show. Just beautifully written
One of my favorite underrated moments in this show is Victor diffusing the grenade. Jayce says, "We may not have a choice," and Victor hesitates with his knife under the wire, as though contemplating letting it go off, so that the only two minds who could weaponize hextech against the Undercity would be wiped out. But he diffuses it and says, "There is ALWAYS a choice," because he just made his, to use the Shimmer and try to keep living. I love that.
@@mid1880 first, you can't always defuse a grenade. second, everything else you said does not contradict anything OP said, it just has a different emphasis.
Interestingly, mirroring the scene where Marcus thinks about setting off the grenade in Silco's office. Also a choice, though Marcus seems to be the type to argue there wasn't really a choice.
The rocket launcher Jinx uses is shaped like a shark because it was supposed to be a gift for Silco, who said in his first appearance that he likes sea monsters. Yknow, incase there wasnt enough emotional damage happenning in that scene.
You think that since her guns talk to her in the game, and the way the "We will show them all" played as she put Fishbones up to her ear that the launcher will have Silco's voice from now on?
@@TriXJester Since shes been shown to have visual and auditory hallucinations of Milo and Claggor, whom she also killed, and converses with them during the show, absolutely. Hopefully however Ghost Silco will be much nicer for her since he told her it was okay as he died.
No, it's not supppsed to be a gift for Silco. It was never stated, hinted or anything. I'm not sure how you guys think this is legit. Jinx usually incorporates animals and cartoons into her work, that's why. This isn't a gift. It's just one of her art.
@@TheDarkstar3601Well, how about this: who was the one continuously pushing Jinx to make the weapon ever since she first stole the gemstone? Silco directly asked Jinx to make the weapon. And everything Jinx did through most of the series was to prove herself to Silco, her father figure, and to win his respect and love. Of course it was for him. And even if it hadn’t been intended as a gift for him to wield personally, she still designed it because he asked her to. It makes sense she would draw inspiration for its appearance from creatures he admires.
"Don't cry, you're perfect" Silco is definitely in my top 3 favourite villains of all time. What a masterpiece this show was, definitely on the same level as Avatar The Last Airbender. "It was perfect, perfect, down to the last minute detail"
Silco is a fantastically written villain in my opinion. He is cruel and vicious he is a monster in his dealings, but he is relatable he has his soft moments, he has goals and desires that yeah check out, freedom for his repressed people. His "nothing more undoing than a daughter" line shows that he truly cares for her and is willing to give up on his dream to ensure her safety.
I think people are too quickly to make Silco strictly a villain. He's a revolutionary, he isn't doing the underworld crime for its own purposes, he's been consistently working for the nation of Zaun since the original uprising in the opening (where Vander gave up). If you contrast the approach that Vander used (go along to get along) with what Silco did (cause enough problems that topside will negotiate and give freedom) it is Silco's way that works much better/closer at actually freeing the underground. I don't think the council is "good" just because they are the fortunate people that get to oppress the underworld and live high on the land, and Silco isn't "bad" just because he's fighting for the underground and works against the enforcers and the laws of the land that favor the powerful. Breaking the law isn't an evil act, the first episode with the kids has us on the kids side of the thief job against the topside, and that perspective should be kept even when the underground turns over from Vander to Silco. The place where Silco finally understands Vander's perspective and decides to value Jinx over Zaun and basically repeat the decisions of Vander is at the very finale, and it is really the first time he prioritizes his own wants of the dream of the nation of Zaun. And it is debatable if that was the right choice or not - there isn't really a clear heroic choice. Be a good father and value the found family he's created with Jinx or be the good revolutionary and finally free Zaun. Also, Silco isn't overly cruel in his dealings. We see early on that Vander has to bully people from the folks trying to rip off the deal at the beginning (don't threaten the guy that makes the drinks) to his talking down the crowd (do I look scared? you look week), Vander controls folks. Silco does similarly with the cutting off the air to keep the other leaders in line, or threatening Marcus in his daughter's room (but in a way that probably mostly goes over the head of the daughter), but in neither case is he cruel, he's just enforcing his order and keeping the underground working the way he wants and needs it for the greater purpose of the nation of Zaun.
"A hero would sacrifice you to save the world, but a villain would sacrifice the world to save you." Silco was a perfect villain and completely relatable as a father.
@@alesksander Joel has a dark pre-history to the game. He was looting and hunting people before. So not that clean father too. And don't forget, he killed all the gun seller's guys and almost everyone of the Fireflights. None of those are 'white' things to do.
Arcane is the show where NO little thing goes unexplained. I tried. The creators worked long and hard. The thing about Marcus is: the exploding butterflies were targeted and sat on firearms, so Marcus getting wrecked is no coincidence those holding weapons got wrecked. He already was closer to explosion initially than Caitlyn, plus he pulled his weapon closer to inspect the "butterfly" right before the boom.
@BaddMedicine If you look even closer, you can see the butterflies target the enforcer weapons. Caitlyn traded hers earlier, so that's likely the only reason she survived.
@@shipso6116 Yep, yep. And as for how Ekko and Jinx survive the explosion, listen closely to right before the explosion goes off and you can hear the sound of metal striking metal- Ekko batting away the bomb so it doesn't explode right in their faces!
@@shipso6116 ive always wondered how the butterflies worked and why they barely hurt caitlyn and vi, that makes a lot of sense that they target weapons wow
And I'm sure he is hands on making prototype components for any new products rather than just a theory guy so regularly does metalwork and heavy lifting etc - that my head canon anyway
"don't cry, you're perfect" her entire life she got called a "jinx" even by the people closest to her, and the fact that he was the only person to EVER tell her otherwise even after she kills him shows how much he truly loved her, Silco is written so well and one of the best villains there is, can't wait for season 2
He didn't tell her otherwise though. He just tell her or convince her that being a jinx...being herself...is perfect. That she doesn't have to be anything else...just herself..unlike Vi who keep trying to make her into POWER.
„What Could Have Been“ by Sting and Ray Chen is a masterpiece. This series is a masterpiece. The story, the characters, the visuals, the music, everything. I don’t care how long Season 2 takes, as long as it is as good as Season 1!
Season 1 took six years, and it shows. Thankfully, the groundwork is done so season 2 shouldn't take that long. As much as I want it NOW, I agree that I want it to be done right. Waiting is gonna hurt, but it'll be so worth it.
Honestly, Viktor was a surprise favorite for me. Usually those types of characters have a very obvious "good scientist that turns evil" trope but I like that despite him doing things for himself the goal remained the same for him. Helping people. His humanity is still intact. Also Ekko's whole look and design is siiiick
@@fraker12 he jumped from enforcers. He had time to smack pipe but definitely not enough to jump off. And if he jumped off, Jinx would be blown to pieces
"There is ALWAYS a choice" Viktor CHOSE to disarm the grenade at the last second to prove a point to jayce Almost no one ever picks up on this savage detail
Also Sevika executing Finn is a masterpiece in storytelling. Silco trusted in Sevika's loyalty, but he couldn't be 100% sure and was still visibly scared; and Sevika, an example of a perfect soldier, committed to the cause and not a leader, never questioning Silco in public and simply unwavering.
“Were you tempted?” “Not for a worm like him… but there will be more” I love Sevika and her undying loyalty to the cause. She may not be a leader, but she will always be there to keep the leaders in check.
Damn, reading comments like this makes me appreciate how good they did Arcane. Like, I feel like watching other reactors again, hoping to they'll notice such details
The scene where Victor runs along the docks made me cry the first time I saw it, it still gives me chills. I had just lost my ability to walk properly when this came out, and it has deteriorated to me using crutches and a wheelchair, so that scene for me is incredibly moving and relatable for me
Yeah, that scene is very powerful with all the background foreshadowing... You see Viktor as a child with a bum leg and his crutch. IF he was able to ever run in his life, it hasn't been for a few decades...so I like to watch this scene imagining it's the first time Viktor ever ran in his life...and his primal scream as he runs as fast as his legs will take him always gets me.
And what is even more beautiful tho. Because Arcane is so well written this thematic can be expanded beyond crutches. This scene can be seen as metaphor. All obstacles can be overcome no matter how hard it is. If you try it can happen soon or later. Go slow and then faster. Although catharsis for Victor and me as audience is very very strong. Beautifully crafted scene with picture, score and voice acting combined in perfect harmony. Cheefs kiss
on viktor disarming the bomb just in time: i always read the way he paused with the knife against the wire as hesitation not because he thought it was the wrong wire, but because he knew it was the right one. jayce says they have no choice but to invest in weapons that will kill people, a lot of whom will likely be viktor's own people - and he pauses in the middle of disarming this bomb, almost lets it kill him and jayce both... and then cuts the wire, right at the last second. "there is always a choice". viktor is making the choice for peace, for not spilling blood, even when it'd be easier to let the bomb go off and kill them. in viktor's eyes, it isn't too late to stop the bomb (the war between piltover and zaun) from going off, if jayce and the rest of the council can just find the guts to cut the wire. but that's just how i read it :]
I think he was also contemplating the fact that by letting it go off he’d also be taking out the only two people who currently have the knowledge to weaponize the hextech, besides Jynx although she only has the one gemstone and presumably doesn’t know how to make more. For Jynx, it’s similar to fact that I know how to use a battery to power different things but I don’t know how to make them. I’m sure the council could find someone else smart enough to eventually figure it out and do it, but it would likely take many years for that to happen. So he’d be sacrificing their lives to prevent, or at least postpone the conflict from being escalated by their side which would almost force the council into having to find a peaceful resolution. It’s interesting how the dialogue combined with that moment of hesitation can say so much about what is potentially going through Viktor’s mind at that moment. It’s just excellent storytelling!
@@Karas540 nah, she didn't use the shield, she was saved by dumb luck because jayce wanted to protect miners from cave-ins. if she had fought jayce he would have demolished her, if she used his creation that he knows inside out against him.
if you notice in the past episode jinx is always on high alert trying to avoid death. But in the scene in episode 7 when ekkos is on top of her, her face relaxes and smiles. She doesn’t move away from the bom she stays right under ekko, like she wanted to die. Jinx has been dealing with trama for years and by her self. Most people think about actually committing suicide. The fight between ekko and jinx was the same play fight they did when they were kids so it must have been a nostalgic moment for her. So why not die in the arms of her childhood best friend? Plus in the game it was mentioned that ekko had a crush on powder when they were kids. And the arcane enemy music video shows there were a lot of scenes of ekko and powder together as kids.
I think there is another idea. One of her main motives and purpose of existence was to prove her usefulness, that she was not weak, but here she openly lost. That is, she was ready to leave, since she had no reason to live.
@@JohnSmithVGA Then her smile and nostalgia wouldn't make sense. If she would have tried to kill herself bc of that then she would have been frustrated and sad as she tries it, her face shows otherwise, she was trying to do it bc she didn't want to live in that shitty world anymore, the world that corrupted her and her best friend enough to try to kill each other. Plus, during the first three eps we always see Powder's eyes as grey and after the time skip as blue, this is the only scene (just when she's about to kill herself) with grey eyes again, representing the same for Ekko making him stop, Powder came back for a moment there. So, yes, the reason why she does it isn't bc her motivation of being useful couldn't happen but bc of how much she hates what the world did to her and to Ekko since they were kids, as she finally has a lucid moment since she was at that state of her mind when she was a kid, thinking it would be best for them both to just leave this world.
What ai love in this scene is that they both spared the other, ekko obivously at the end but during the slow mo when he jumps, we see jinx's gun following ekko without missing a bit, but she doesn't pull the trigger
@@alex._420 she didn't have the time to shoot bc he outsmarted her by making her change her fight style to the one she used when they were kids, this was confirmed by the creators.
I think it’s not just Jace who feels the reality of violence. Everyone is amped through the combat scene, absorbed in the “coolness” that is their fighting.. only to be harshly reminded that: There is no glory in violence.
Yeah, that scene was perfectly executed. Nobody watches that scene without getting caught up in how cool it is, only for the sudden halting screech when the kid gets smoked. Gives the audience a perfect whiplash mirroring that of the heightened emotional state of the combatants being brutally yanked out of their 'battle high'.
Episode 8 is very much an episode of whiplash: we have a high when Viktor gets his foot back, then *bam* Sky is dead. Then again Jayce is fighting Silco’s forces, and then a child is dead. The journeys mirror each other, which leads perfectly to episode 9 where they decide they must go back to their roots
I wouldn't describe it as 'coolness'. I think it was a release of years of pent-up frustration of being able to do nothing about the villains negatively impacting the people and place you care about, only to realise they were innocent people that were victims too. In this case kids.
Vi to Powder in ep 2: "what makes you different makes you strong. Always remember that" Jinx to Vi in ep 9: "I thought you could love me like you used to even though I'm different"
This is the main weak writing point of the show to me. At no point did Vi show any amount of unwillingness to love her still despite the fact she's killed dozens of people. She just didn't want Jinx killing more, and if that's not a negotiable thing, then Jinx is too far gone.
@@SleepyStreak No. She wanted Powder back. I am not saying that is a "bad" thing... but the whole thing was that Vi did not show willingness to accept Jinx... she only wanted Powder back. When Vi and Silco was yelling to Jinx, it was Vi who made it worse by saying all the wrong things. She wanted her to be Powder and wanted her to go back to the way she used to be... but all that is pure trauma for Jinx. The essence of that particular interaction, is that you can never go back... you have to go forward. That means accepting Jinx as she is right now. Then the healing can begin. That whole scene is basically a repeat of EP3. Powder tried to help with the monkey bomb and it blew up in her face. Likewise Vi tried to help by getting Jinx to remember what she used to be like... but it blew up in her face. Both had good intentions, but both didn't understand what they were dealing with.
@@SleepyStreak It isn't weak writing - it's actually a brilliant flaw in Jinx's character. Vi very clearly does still love Jinx, but she isn't capable of proving it in a way Jinx will believe. Jinx only sees the worst of intentions from everyone, and her insecurity and desperation to prove her own assumptions right ends up destroying her. I don't agree with the people who say that Vi wanted "Powder" back - she would have been fine if her sister had allowed her to love her. No, she might not have been okay with the wanton killing... but she absolutely would have helped her to work through the trauma. Vi and Powder are great examples of trauma dealt with two different ways. Vi was older and had a lot of time for introspection, plus learned a lot from Vander. Powder's starting place and growing up was completely different and her trauma takes over.
@@bulletsandbracelets4140it’s not entirely jinx’s fault. Vi uses memories of milo and claggor to try and convince jinx, despite the fact that it seems like both of them didn’t really care for powder that much, and in fact milo seems to be the source of some of jinx’s mental problems. Vi is stuck in the past with a different version of powder in her mind, someone innocent and happy, whereas jinx is a new person. Vi wants jinx to go back to how she was, whereas jinx hates that part of her life. She always felt inadequate and helpless, now as jinx she is strong and even feared. Vi doesn’t really have any idea what jinx is feeling, which is understandable because she kept it all to herself.
@@Shythalia could imagine sky's death triggering some sort of frankensteins monster arc where he gets found out and condemned. and the coolest easteregg ever, to ppl who know the game, can be seen when vi first encounters sevika after being sprung out of prison: take a close look at the cards she drops when being kicked into her face :)
I just want to take a quick moment to thank you guys for a well formatted reaction. I know its hard for a group of people to do this without it being a loud mess
Yes, still believe there are times when some of them are needlessly talking over dialogue. And I will also never understand why some people need to associate everything they see, every character they see, with different references like the MCU or whatever. Nobody cares if a character makes you think of Chewbacca or Marty McFly tbh. Just watch the show. Those comments can wait to be made during the post-show analysis.
@@Zedem0n as someone who watched different reaction youtubers for this series, badd medicine's the only one i enjoyed. sometimes they talk over the scenes like you said but it's not distracting. it's so boring if it's too quiet or if you wait for thoughts and comments after an episode ends - might as well skip to that part or watch it myself. the point of me seeing people's reaction is because i wanna know how others feel about what i liked. because i was hyped, i wanna see how they're gonna get hyped. even if it means talking about characters in other films and series
@@Zedem0neven if they sometimes talk over dialogue, I think they pay attention and almost never miss the point of the scenes, besides one of them always catch details the others don't and share the info if one of them didn't get certain thing. That's why this is a *reaction*, if they just sit down without talking or sharing their thoughts then what's the point.
@@lex_lvs_scara Yes I agree! I really dislike when reactors just talk over parts and completely miss important bits. But I notice that Badd Medicine is really good at avoiding that - like even if they talk, they're almost always paying attention and ready to stop mid-sentence to tune in again, so their talking has never felt distracting. Almost like they're talking "around".the important parts if that makes sense. Besides, like you said, I think it helps that someone else is most definitely watching and catching details to share with the group. I'm always so impressed at their insights and discussion.
The monsters Jinx was seeing when Vi was naming off her friends at the dinner scene poetically ties into the story Vi told earlier about when she and Powder were little they would make up monsters and they'd get bigger and bigger until Powder got scared. Now the great irony at the dinner table is that Vi thinks she is helping her sister by making Powder remember all her loved ones, but to Jinx they are her demons, her monsters, that torment her because of the role she played in their demise. Just one of the many great small details in this show that are easy to miss but once you realize they are there they make the show transcend into a true work of art.
another fun fact about this animation, nothing of the animation is mocapped (captured via those suits you usually see behind the scenes) everything is done manually , frame by frame. Also the reason mels mother is so jacked is because she is part of the noxians, they value strength over all, even the leadership of the nation is decided by it
From what I recall from the behind the scenes footage is that they had a room set up for animators to record themselves to experiment with facial expressions and motions instead of doing the mocap
@@Mars-l9b that's actually been the standard approach in the west for decades. Any artist or animator will tell you, you draw from reference. 3d animation isn't any different. If you look at behind the scenes stuff for any high quality animated movie, it's the same thing - filmed reference as a start for motion. Some animators can get away with doing basic standard stuff without reference, but that's because they've seen that reference like 1000 times.
Not really frame by frame. The way they animate this is by making a few key poses with keyframes. Then the 3D software will go from one pose to the other. Of course a lot of times there need to be more poses in between the key poses to make it smoother and to avoid clipping of parts of the body.
Everything Vi is saying, starts to trigger Jinx while Silco is trying to calm her down. Jinx has bad memories of Mylo, Claggor & Vandor, but Silco tells her that she matters to him.
Btw it was Silco that calmed down Jinx to some degree at the end. Vi was unknowingly making things worse by reminding her of Mylo/Claggor/their mom. And while he's wrong about Vi, he isn't really lying about her. He knew that Marcus got her but he still thought that Vi had abandoned Powder and then got caught after that. He doesn't know that she didn't really intend to leave Powder there. So he truthfully and understandably believes that Vi did abandon Powder like Vander did to him. He's wrong, but he's not being dishonest for the sake of manipulating her, he really thinks he's the only one who cares. The one time he "lied" about Vi was by not telling Jinx that she was back, which is again because he really believed she wasn't really there for Jinx. He's wrong again, but it's all based on his misunderstanding that Vi had completely abandoned Powder. I understand thinking he's manipulating her the entire time, I went through my entire first watch thinking that until at the end he makes it so clear how much he genuinely cares. Even then at first I took that as just him wanting her to go on believing in him or continue his work, but that doesn't really make sense. After thinking about it and rewatching the show I noticed how much more all his actions make sense with the understanding that he really felt a connection with her over his abandonment and her perceived abandonment, and truly thought of her as his daughter, and I felt kinda stupid for how I originally thought it was just all him manipulating her. He definitely makes mistakes and doesn't really know the best way to raise and help her, but he also definitely loved her more than anything and tried his best. It doesn't really seem like there's much mental health support in this world though, especially not in Zaun, so it's also kind of hard to blame him entirely. He also did genuinely improve the undercity in a lot of ways too imo, as shown by the fact the water is much more breathable and the water is much more clean. They have good prosthetics, and pretty impressive medical tech. He did also earn more respect from Piltover towards Zaun and very nearly attained independence from the. A lot of that wouldn't have happened as quickly or at all without his leadership. Of course, he also causes a lot of harm due to his ruthlessness and very questionable ethical practices (the children in the shimmer facilities, all the shimmer addicts and him using their addiction, etc). He's not really a villain imo, no one in this show really is, which I think is a testament to its writing. He's a revolutionary who genuinely brings about a lot of positive change, but uses questionable methods to reach his goals. It's a matter of whether or not his ends justify his means, and that's up to the viewer to decide. In the end, his love for Jinx is both arguably his biggest redeeming quality and also his failure as a leader, since he essentially abandons his cause in the end to save Jinx, on top of arguably protecting her from her mistakes all this time (although she was undeniably useful to the cause, as their overall most proficient fighter arguably, as well as retrieving the gemstone). Jinx tragically misunderstands this due to her insecurities and mental health issues which were worsened by the Shimmer that saved her life, so in the end it all falls apart, both his desire to save her and his desire to gain independence for Zaun, due to Jinx and Silco's mutual failings. Although, at least Jinx is still alive, and Zaun could still win it's independence, although it almost certainly won't be done cleanly after what Jinx started with the rocket. I wouldn't really call either of them villains, but tragic grey characters. I'd really like for Jinx to somehow find help for her issues and a better life, but I don't really see that happening. It's possible she will just transition into more of a pure villain role next season and end up dying, although I'm holding out hope it won't be that simple and I have a lot of faith in the writers after the first season was so incredible. My highest hope would be that somehow through hextech or something they can develop something to help with her mental issues, even if she has to pay for her crimes. If she just ends up rotting in Stillwater prison though that would be about the worst ending I could see, I would rather see her die than just end up there. That place is clearly awful, but Caitlyn might improve it, so we'll see. I'm curious to see if they just end up leaving her in a similar spot to her role in the game's lore, on the run and sort of a trickster (although more dark than her game counterpart). I would be ok with that. However with how much they've done their own thing and made the story a lot more real and grim I'm expecting more closure, either her dying or ending up caught, I just hope it isn't completely horrible. I want some good to happen to her, this story has been so cruel to her.
Yes to all but not the last part. Arcane creators can't kill League of Legends champions because they don't want to close their stories. They kinda want to make like open endings. All Arcane is the past of the League of Legends present. Is kinda a spoiler, I did knew Jinx, Jayce, Vi, Viktor, Caitlyn, Ekko, Heimmerdinger, Singed (Viktor's "mentor") and any character that is a League of Legends champion can't die. Jinx certainly won't die next season. In short, they don't kill the characters in their game because part of the fun is the lore, and closing the story of the characters in the game would make it lose the fun. It would be weird to play with characters that you already know are dead in the story. Anyway, the series is just as entertaining and totally maintains the suspense because even if you know that they won't die, you have no idea how they are going to get out of that situation. Since I already have knowledge of what they are like in the "present", It's very curious how they got there. In the first chapters watching Vi and Jinx's relationship, I was very curious how they ended up being "rivals". Pd: English it's not my mother tongue, srry if my writing is kinda weird xP
Btw they are making modifications to the official lore and characters to fit with Arcane, which they confirmed will be the lore canon. And I highly doubt they'll do anything about Jinx's mental health. She even has a line in the game that says "I'm crazy! I have a medical certificate and everything" and "You think I'm crazy? You should see my sister." Although it is obviously painful to see her suffer, ultimately the essence of her character is that she is crazy.
Shimmer is, after the time skip, kinda like real medication, if you take just a little it helps (like to Silco's eye or Vi's injury) but if you take a lot you'll end up high and creating an addiction.
1:14:48 Silco didn't lie when he said Vi abandoned Jinx, Marcus did tell him she was dead, he didn't find out she was alive till episode 5 when she got to the underground with Caitlyn.
I’ve always felt that Silco believed everything that he said. He believed that Vi really did abandon Jinx and that they only came back for the crystal, maybe due to his own abandonment issues?
@@deadroses6493 nah, it's a reasonable assumption given that vi shows up with an enforcer right after jinx stole the gem. they could've improved his dialogue with vi during their encounter with the drug fiends in this regard.
@@danii7584 but it is in fact linked to his abandonment issues bc when they're talking about that he talks about how everyone always abandons them so it is shown how (for no matter reason he believes it) this hits him emotionally for how it affects Jinx for her abandonment which he knows how it feels, which is why he believes they can just have each other and get each other bc of it.
@@jrlombardi5251 I don't think it's about the "just have each other" aspect, and about her abandoning him, but rather about her getting screwed over by vi again, which is the story that powder told him. and he knows what it's like to get betrayed and possibly killed/drowned. so I don't think it's abandonment issues to a high degree, ofc there are some since he considers jinx the only person he can trust, since he identifies with her struggle, probably even projects his own issues onto her.
@@danii7584 hon, read, I never said it's about her abandoning him, I said he can relate to her feeling of abandonment bc of Vi bc he experienced it in his own too, so he knows what it is like and doesn't trust, which is why he says everyone does that to them and by that putting them at the same level bc, yes, they feel like they can just count with each other. Your point about Vi doing it again and how he knows what that feels like it's literally what I said, so you're contradicting nothing of my point and you're reading terribly if you somehow got to that conclusion. And for the last, your conclusion literally says and proves it is about the abandonment issues, you're just contradicting yourself bc you're not getting the topic itself you're talking about. You should start to think more about what you say, read better, pay more attention and, if by then you still need it, get some info about the topic you're talking about, that way you'll understand so you'll not contradict yourself so much and think what was shown isn't what's going on.
The visual storytelling in the series is amazing but when it comes to visual storytelling the fight between Jinx and Ekko must be one of my favourite moments!!
Yea by far the best fight. So short and sweet and super sad! There rematch is gonna be over the top. Poor ekko. Hope he gets his time watch invented before then.
Yes yes yes! I’ve been waiting for this with bated breath! You guys are incredible as always, and I CANNOT WAIT to see what you’ve all got to say about this explosive ending 🎉❤❤❤
Yessssss finally we get the finale 3 episodes!! There's so many reasons why this was probably the best made animation based on the game / lore of League, whilst it takes ideas it does have it's own thrown in there as well. The hype for season 2, that's hopefully going to be released next year is something that has big boots to fill!
TBF i m fine if they release in 3 yrs time, Just take time and make it property like this season. Witch was 6yrs in making and it really shows. It took aprox 3yrs of concept work and 3 yrs of hard animation art drawing. So yeah i m fine if they just do it property even if they need time.
i heard that they didnt want it to take as long as the first season, but we will have to wait two years max. so not awful but not great at the same time.@@alesksander
Episode 7 has probably my favourite moment in the entire series, if not any series. It's super subtle but an absolute moment of genius. When Jayce is talking about maybe not having a choice when it comes to weaponising Hextech Victor hesitates for a moment while disarming Jinx's bomb. He realises that the only two people on Runeterra with Hextech knowledge is he and Jayce and all he has to do is let the bomb go off and the threat of Hextech weapons is eliminated. Then he makes the choice to cut the wire, disabling the bomb and tells Jayce "There's always a choice". Utter brilliance.
The scene with Viktor running along the docks passing the boats in the background is SUCH a underrated scene because we saw that as a kid he wasn't able to keep up with his toy boat due to his disabilities.
The gold pieces on Mels back and shoulder shine right before the missle strikes and she looks over her shoulder. It's commonly believed that this is some form of defensive system and not everyone in the room will die. In point of fact in the series, Arcane: Bridging the Rift, the director of music for the series lets a spoiler slip. Check it out if you're curious! It's an amazing behind the scenes story of how this series came to be.
the ekko vs jinx fight is such a unique way to tell the difference in how much both of them changed since before all the bs happened, and very visually appealing. probably my favourite animated fight ever
You should definitely watch the making-of Arcane series (Bridging the Rift) to tide you over. It's almost as amazing as the show, and when you learn what they went through to make it, you'll be even more astonished at how fantastic it was.
Here's a fun detail: The music box with sparklers in it on the table at the end of episode 9 is one of the items Powder stole from Jayce in episode 1. It means, at some point, she went into the river and got their bag of loot back.
I think the only news we have about Season 2 is that it's not gonna be done in 2023 and that sometime around April 2023 they had 3 or 4 episodes completed.
They can take their sweet time. Season 1 took 6 years to produce, and while season 2 won’t take that long, I’m willing to wait as long as necessary. Quality storytelling and animation takes a long time to develop and it’s so worth it
My understanding of shimmer is that there are different types. If you remember, Synged said that what he gave Viktor in episode 8 was a "variant". So far as i can tell, there are 4 main types of shimmer. The base type is the addictive type like was given to douche bag who betrayed Vi. The second kind augments physical attributes but does not cause excessive physical changes (i.e. the guys in the suits and Sevika), and the full blown army enhancement (Vander and the drones he set on Vi and Kaitlyn).
We all know Singed is making chemtech, which is... Green colored Goo for machinery and stuff. So the overall theory is that Shimmer is the prototype for the Green chemicals that Chemtech uses.
it's kind of a stretch to say the "second kind" didn't change sevika and the suits, but definitely not as much as deckard. btw I think the steroid version of shimmer was what huck (the douchbag guy) got, because he talked about how he used it to be powerful and not be afraid anymore. also there's one more implementation: healing when using it in small dosages. that's how vi gets healed after being stabbed, and how silco keeps his eye alive. and also the recreative smoke version which they use in the last drop.
I never hear anyone talk about how at the dinner at the end, Vi is saying things like “remember Milo! Remember Claggart!” thinking that these are positive things for Jinx, but they are actually evoking terrible memories. They were VI’s friends, but they were NOT nice to Powder. Vi thinks she’s helping but she’s actually pushing Jinx further and further towards breaking.
It's not about them not being nice (and only Milo bullied her, not Claggor). It's that she killed them. Vi is bringing up all the guilt she constantly feels but can't face up to.
An interesting part that almost nobody seems to catch which was shown in episode 3 is that Hextech allows for weird anti-gravitational properties. A great example of the contrast in practice is when Sevika severs the connections for the power of the crystal in Vi's glove. At that very moment the gauntlet is too heavy for Vi to handle and she collapses. Even when gets back up it still looks extremely heavy so she gets rid of it (zero effort on holding the other glove). The only reason you can even lift those gloves or use the hammer is that they are infused with the crystals which somewhat negates the usual gravitational pull on those huge masses. So with Jayce, not only is the hammer really heavy which doesn't affect Jayce cause the crystal makes it "light" which allows him to wield it effortlessly, but it also transmits the power of the crystal on contact (or trigger). So even though Jayce can visually wield it easily despite never training with it, the punch from it is so damn powerful, combining the weight and the extra punch. So I'd say the weight isn't felt too much on the hammer due to the levitation power and how easily he uses it, but it does feel extremely powerful on contact (watch how he quickly gets of the train before the fight sequence). Also, a small note those that think Vi got a random deus ex machina with that shield when fighting Sevika: The gloves were not designed to be gauntlets but mining gloves. Imagine if you are in a mine and rocks collapse on you. Instinctively you will hold your hands above your head and that's the exact motion Vi does. This deploys a shield to protect the user from the avalanche. I think these kinds of details not only show how smart the writers (mainly incorporating it as a nod to an ability in the game - in this case Vi's Passive) are but it also further confirms the design intent of Jayce and Viktor and why they saw them as normal tools rather than weapons which is what Heimerdinger kind of foresaw. This was also partially implemented into the hammer, where you see the yellow forcefield. God, I love this show :D
@@SiMeGamer fun fact: during the final scene when jinx carries the tablet with the cupcake, she actually wears both gauntlets and shakes out her right wrist because of the weight of the thing, which is a subtle nod to the power of shimmer.
I hope Mel makes it, especially since most of us probably did her a bit dirty since she was such an ambiguous character, but I can see her dying to be important for the character development of some of the other characters. Alternatively, she might get heavily wounded, which could give an incentive to NOT destroy the hex core and attempt to use it to heal her...
You'll see that Vi has a deep seeded need for vengeance without worrying about the consequences. In episode 1 it was vengeance against the enforcers and "topside", then later it became vengeance against Silco.
And that vengeance blinds her to reality. She betrays her own sister to the council just to strike a blow against Silco. She'd rather get Jinx arrested and possibly even executed by the Topsiders than see her free and happy with Silco. Vi wants Powder back and if she can't have her she'll throw a fit and burn everything down.
@jenk4545 tbf I can see why she wants Powder back. Jinx is a creation of Silco, and she isn't actually happy. She's ill, unmedicated, and so scared and stressed. Silco loves her, but he isn't actually a good parent to her. Just saying she's perfect isn't useful in the face of schizophrenia. He thinks that, like himself, giving her power will empower her. But really, she doesn't need guns, she needs affection and mental health support.
@lettylunasical4766 Yes, agreed Jinx isn't healthy, but Vi is no better for her than Silco is. Vi wants her to be someone she's not. Vi has spent years in prison obsessing over Powder, and she expected her to be the same little girl when she got out. She can't accept Jinx for who she is, and she can't accept that, for all his flaws Silco *has* been good to her. Vi constantly insisting to Jinx that Silco is the bad guy and if Jinx just leaves him and comes back to Vi they can be happy playing house together is short sighted and honestly deluded.
@@jenk4545 Perhaps Vi and Silca are the same, but overall I think Vi has the better moral argument. I think Jinx is someone who *does* need to change, for her own sake and for everyone else's. Maybe I just read the Jinx persona differently to other fans, but I don't think it's just a case of she grew up and her sister thinks she should still act like a 9 year old. Even Jinx giving herself the name 'jinx' is a sign of her low self esteem; she acts violently and irrationally, even killing those she loves by accident; she is mentally ill and scared. She doesn't like being 'Jinx', she is this person because she feels like it's what she deserves and/or because it's what Silco likes. I don't really see Jinx as someone different to Powder; she is Powder but unmedicated and scared. So I read it as by wanting 'Powder back' Vi wants her sister healthy again. I really like Silco and think he's a great character, but I think his charisma sometimes blinds people to the fact that he really is a bad parent to Jinx in many ways and Vi has a good point in wanting Powder aka, the actual person but healthy, back.
@@lettylunasical4766 Powder was not healthy pre-Jinx though, not even close, healthier perhaps but not healthy. She already had hallucinations, they simply got worse after Vi "left". She had insecure attachment and extreme codependency with anyone who`d validate her emotional needs . She already displayed lowered empathy and dissonant serenity in the face of fire, chaos and destruction at the beginning of the series.
The great part of this show for me was, even though i knew were Jinx would end up, they made it feel like there was this tiny chance, that she still would turn around. Although in the end she blasted her Ultimate across the whole map as it should be XD (yes that rocket is Jinx' ultimate attack in League which goes flying across the whole map until it either hits someone unfortunate enough standing in the way or just go flying off the map) In fact it is not really a cliffhanger, since this season was all about how Powder became Jinx and this final scene concluded her change into Jinx. Btw her machine gun (at least ingame) is called Pow Pow, the same name which Vi called her in Episode 6 and her rocketlauncher is called fishbones, ingame she likes to talk with fishbones and also answers for him in a deeper voice^^ Also you're one of the few who realized that the whole peace agreement was out the window the monent Silco died :D the way I see it...there was never a chance for real peace at this time, the council has done too little too late, it was inevitable that this war would break out imo
It makes sense for Jayce to be jacked when u realise that hes familys main trade have been Engineers/blacksmiths and i think he even said something like how hes family made the tools that was then used to build the city during hes progress day speech. He also worked that forge like a pro so he clearly knows what hes doing around a forge. There is a short 30 sec teaser for Season 2 but its nothing more then a few voices of the main trio. Apparently episode 3 is supposedly done but season 2 is likly not gonna release untill late 2024 or sometime in 2025. Jinx rocket launcher may not be single use but its definatly not a rapid fire. Given how the rocket looked after she fired with the tubing and everything i cant imagen that would be easy for her to mass produce so shes for sure not gonna be able to use that anytime she wants. Also i think u guys got the wrong ide of the gemstones, The gemstones themselfs only acts as a powersource and unlike Jinx rocket launcher Vi´s gauntlets dosent need ammo so she can keep punching away as mutch as she likes with very little power drain. The shield would for sure drain more power but the gems are loaded so its not like just a few shield uses would totally drain it. The gemstone Jinx has could power that gun all she wants but unless she has a rocket in it it wouldent do mutch good.
The rocket is chemtech. Just like her guns and bombs. So it wouldn't be that hard for her to make more. You are correct when you say that Sharkbones is only powered by the Hextech gemstone.
I also love how Jinx's whole story comes full circle. She wanted to help when she was younger, and her influence caused a likely success to turn into abysmal failure. Now, Jayce was willing to barter for peace; he'd even gotten the council to agree to it. He could have haggled to avoid turning over Jinx, or handed over a proxy instead, but Jinx didn't give him that chance. And just when the Undercity was about to achieve it's place as the Nation of Zaun, Jinx used her inventions to "help" but ended up only destroying any chance at peace.
As mentioned, Jayce grew up in a blacksmith family. He's probably done his share there. And I suspect he's been into some kind of sport growing up, perhaps at the academy. We've seen Caitlyn do that earlier (running in the woods at a shooting contest), and she's pretty fit as well. Probably a thing in the wealthy families in Piltover.
Silco didnt lie. Marcus told him Vi was dead. He found out just a couple of days ago. Thats what that whole scene with Silco threatening Marcus daughter was about. At worst he "lied by omittion" no telling Jinx when he found out. But he really didnt know the truth "all this time". This is Jinx being confused and paranoid... Which is what THIS whole scene is about. She doesnt know what real or in her head, whats true or false. This dinner table scene is a desperate attempt to figure it out.
The end scene with Vi telling Jinx to remember Milo, Clagger, Vander, Mom, etc was hurting Jinx more than it was encouraging or helping her. Silco was shouting in his chair telling Vi to stop because he saw how much Vi was accidentally hurting her. Ugh what a perfect show.
I think my favorite thing about this show is how everyone has “good intentions”. There is no villain who is evil for the sake of being evil. They are all trying to do something good, they all have ideas and dreams of making the world better, either for their families, for their people or for the less fortunate ones; but different approaches on how to achieve it and unique flaws that get in the way. It’s fantastic to see how many people in so many different positions have a similar goal but are in each other’s way at the same time.
The bridge scene in episode 7 is such a masterpiece. So many parallels. It is the same bridge and the same song from episode 1. There is so many theories about Jinx and Ekko fight. My favourite one is that is depicts how Ekko was able to move from his trauma and Jinx is still being consumed by it. It is a recreation of their childood game in which Jinx was always winning. This comparison seems pretty good in my opinion.
i recently thought of the last scene of the series. i think that jinx's little tea party in the end was not just a cool visual feature but also a metaphor for the boston tea party. both tea parties will eventually trigger a civil war.
Also I think grayson, vander, benzo, and silco all were friends at some point. Because silco talked to benzo like he knew him in episode 3. And grayson and vander acted like they new each other. And grayson is more friendly to the under city than the rest of the enforcers. So I think that she was probably from the under city. And anytime we've scene a person living in pilot over who orginally lived in the under city, they would have to have made a contribution to pilot over, like victor with his work.
Grayson isn't from the Undercity, it's just that she's empathetic to their situation and can see that both sides are flawed. She was around for the revolution the first time around. She's measured enough to realize that cooperation with Vander is smarter than all-out warfare and that there's a reasonable amount of peace that can still be brokered, but loyal in that she draws a line in the sand that the Undercity's actions can't continue to disturb Piltover's citizens. The rules and regulations for being allowed to work in Piltover as a born citizen of the Undercity are very stringent--the people authorized to do so are exceptional, not ordinary. It's a way of showing the audience that while there are fewer opportunities afforded to the Undercity, both sides have some give-and-take. Only the exceptional prosper, not the ordinary. It still paints Piltover as oppressive and unfair, while not being totalitarian or draconic. We know Vander, Benzo and Silco were all aligned at one point--that's the entire point of their backstory and why the failed revolution on the bridge changed everyone's dynamics.
The ending is perfect because the arc of the season isn’t the politics, but “how does someone innocent turn to evil?” We don’t have to see the result to know she’s crossed the point of no return.
Right. This was Jinx’s villain origin story, and her arc was completed the moment she sat in that chair and chose Jinx over Powder. So it’s technically not a cliffhanger
Right. This was Jinx’s villain origin story, and her arc was completed the moment she sat in that chair and chose Jinx over Powder. So it’s technically not a cliffhanger
When I watched Arcane for the first time - the amount of anxiety I had when Jinx brought out that silver platter was CRAZY high. Even though I KNEW that it wasn't going to be her head, I just got so worked up over that whole scene ahahaha! Also yeah I was screaming at the end going "No!! No!! There's no way THAT'S just the END!?!!" I'm so glad you guys watched this!!
Here's something that might be of significance: If you replay the moment where the grenade went off (the one that Jinx set off to off herself and Ekko), you would hear a "clunk" right before the explosion. Many have theorized that the noise was Ekko knocking away the grenade at the last possible moment, saving himself and, most likely, Jinx as well.
There is an underrated quote from Viktor, he says "In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good.", this is og from this series, it wasn't quoting any philosopher and to me at least is really the most impactful quote from the series.
I did not focus on Mel's mother so much but once you mentioned revenge I imagined a possibility for season 2. she is from Noxius, which from the lore is a very warlike, miltiary state, and if she blames the death of mel (IF she dies) on Piltover as a whole instead of the undercity, Noxious can invade and steal the hextech. Interesting insight from you guys as always.
just for your information: There would be no peace either way, Silco was completely serious when he said he never would have handed over Jinx, even if it meant war
If you enjoy the animation, Riot also released a ton of cinematics that are 3-5 minutes each, many of which are in different types of animation styles. You could definitely do a video reacting to compilation of those videos (just search League of Legends cinematics). There are some amazing characters from all over, including the area of Noxus where Mel and her mom are from. As a long time League player who loves the game and the world (yes there are people who are toxic but you just mute them), there is just so much to explore
When Viktor was young, they showed how he couldn't keep up with the boat... Then while he was running after trying the shimmer-hexcore combo, he ran past the boat in the background...
In the scene with Jinx's outburst in the final episode, It was actually Vi telling Jinx to picture Milo and Clanger, which in Jinx's head are demons who cause her more doubt and harm, whereas Silco was telling her not to listen to it, Vi even told Jinx to picture their parents which she would have known would be traumatic to Jinx...I don't think Silco was actually a badguy in the last episode, I think that he was a father going through a personal choice, power or his daughter and in the end he CHOSE Jinx.
I agree. It was unfortunately Vi's fault. Silco was trying to stop Vi from causing Jinx more harm, that's why I believe he picked up the gun, not with the intent to kill her, but to stop her from talking. That's why when you look at where he shot Vi, the bullet went through the side of the chair, not where her head would have been.
yeh and ppl seem to think it was her choice to kill silco to protect vi, when jinx has a history of panic firing, which is even dialed up by the shimmer and triggered by the sound of the pistol while she has her breakdown
I agree with you to a point. Silco was still being a bad guy at the end, but it was because of his and Jynx’s fear of abandonment. He really does love and care for her, but he can’t help but use that fear of abandonment in an attempt to manipulate her into siding with him, whether he realizes he’s doing it or not. People don’t always consciously manipulate others that they care about, in a twisted/toxic kind of way they believe they’re doing what’s best for the person. He may just think he’s trying to protect her, but it is a form of manipulation by using her trauma like that and telling her that Vi will abandon her again and that he and Jynx can only count on each other.
@@CrippledMerc that's a lot of speculation on your part, buddy. lets summarize, silco find jinx abandoned, takes her in, plans to overthrow piltover, and right when he's close to victory vi suddenly reappears teamed up with an enforcer. so from his perspective vi might be the manipulative one, who weakens jinx, which is deadly in a world like theirs.
@@danii7584 Exactly my point. Silco was betrayed and abandoned by Vander who he considered a brother, after that he could only count on himself until Jynx came along. Jynx lost everyone, her parents, her childhood friends, her adoptive father, and her sister. You don’t see it as outwardly with Silco as you do with Jynx, although he does speak on it a couple times. We see it with Jynx especially when Vi and the other kids leave her to go save Vander and she has absolute mental breakdown, and again when Vi leaves her after Vander dies just before Silco finds her. Regardless of whether he thinks Vi is manipulating Jynx at the end, he still uses manipulation as well even if it does come from a place of genuine love and care for Jynx. I’m sure he believes he’s just looking out for what he thinks is best for Jynx, but it doesn’t change the fact that he uses that fear of abandonment to try to persuade her. Personally, even if Jynx had decided to leave with Vi I don’t think they would’ve stayed together anyways, meaning Silco was kinda right in that regard. Jynx and Vi had both changed too much. Sure, it’s possible that they could’ve worked it out, but I don’t think it would be likely.
Every little detail in this show is perfect, one I didn't even notice until this reaction was Silco looking in the reflection of his glass at Sevika when she was walking behind him in the office scene. Viktor was my favorite character from the game, and the changes for the show are just brilliant. I can't wait to see what happens to him and if the core takes him over or forces him to be conscious of the decisions he is forced to make. I can just already tell his "Champion" moment is going to make me sad while also making me proud to have played him so much and making him my main character way before he was even really popular in the game. Speaking of the game it can be fun, it's a lot to learn with almost 200 characters, but the biggest downside is the fans are toxic to the game devs and themselves and the most common mode locks you into a game for 15-45 mins with these people lol. The best experience is probably just having a whole friend group to play with.
in the game there is an item called zhonya's hourglass, this item can turn u "golden" like mels armour at the end and render you invincible for a short duration. kind of incases you in some sort of stasis separating you from the physical world.
Thanks for your reaction ❤ I loved this series… I believe it is one of the best written plots I witnessed in 5 or more years. Glad you guys enjoyed it too 👍🏻
The scene when Viktor drops the cane and start running is just so well done. Think back about Viktor's backstory scene when he dropped his mechanical boat in the river and failed to run along it. Now he's outrunning real boats! Also, Vi putting on the Hextech gauntlets and Jayce's Hextech powered Hammer/crossbow was one thing the league of legends players/fan knew about since the character were introduced! They had us wait until episode 8 out of 9 for it!
I never saw this ending as a cliff hanger. the story was always focused around the characters of Vi and Jinx and that relationship change was full developed and that story ended. So the ending was perfect, pointing to the choices that were made by Vi and Jinx. Particularly Jinx. Who lived and who died from that choice doesn't matter in relation to what the heart of the series is. Jinx made a choice and that choice means inevitable war. The End.
would be highly hilarious if they started the new season somewhere else in runeterra. but they won't do it. my bet: everybody except ingame characters die from the explosion. viktor will be shunned after his part in sky's death comes out, or the aftermath of the explosion forces some glorious evolution... which is foreshadowed/easteregged by the cards sevika drops when she is attacked by vi. jayce will be held responsible by ambessa for the death of mel, since ambessa warned him not to let the problems of his city get worse and we were directly told she'd turn the world ablaze for her family which she now all lost. viktor or singed might join noxus in that war. no idea how they could fill warwick into that. also I'd love to see urgot at some point, maybe opposing cait/vi.
@@danii7584 Mel is gonna live. Heavily hinted by the last few frames, and it would be a bit of a waste of her character otherwise. The other non game chars will probably all die though, or at least most of them.
@@rylace it's possible, but a shimmering armor means little. my money is on mel being killed because it makes more sense with the story. - ambessa strongly hinted that family is everything to her, that she would burn the world for them, and that mel's brother is dead - ambessa also warned jayce to not let the problems of the undercity fester, which kinda happened. a wound that festers gets infected and leads to death. - during peace talks silco points out that they should focus on the threads outside the walls, which would refer to noxus/ambessa - lorewise, singed is bound to end up in noxus. also I'd bet that victor might end up there in opposition to jayce after being shunned for killing sky. jayce and singed might leave together. so war between noxus and piltover makes lots of sense. but yeh, it's always possible they go a different way.
@@danii7584 the show took the time to highlight her shimmering armor for several seconds even though she was wearing clothing over it. it'd be strange if they focused on something that was ordinarily impossible to see if it meant little in the grand scheme of things.
@@oakeii might be, might not be. they also took a long time with ambessa telling us all that she lost her son, that she wants mel returning home into the fol, that she'd burn the world down for the family, and that jayce should get the problems of the undercity under control or risk getting slaughtered :)
If you pay attention you get to see all the details shown like - 1. Jayce mentioned the Talis business was into hammer building 2. The firelight bombs were on Jinx's desl 3. Right before the suicide blast by jinx you'll hear a "BONK" which was Ekko hitting the grenade away with his bat to reduce the impact. 4. The batlike firelight before Ekko's reveal was shown as a visitor in Piltover in episode 4. 5. The pretty boy for Mel's mom was shown in the brothel when Vi visited it. 6. Vi's gloves were made for mining so it made sense for it to have an auto-sensored shield. 7. Skye died because Viktor did the transformation without shimmer so the hexcore took her instead. 8. The weapon Jinx has been making under Silco's order with the hexgem also was made by Jinx to look like Silco. Her last act as powder was killing Silco and her first act as Jinx was firing her weapon.
see here's the thing though - *silco didn't lie to her*. he genuinely thought that vi was dead because marcus had lied to him, hence his initial shocked "from the dead?!" response in episode 4 when sevika informs him that she has returned. my guy was DISTRAUGHT, and even more so when he failed to kill vi.
While the game of League of Legends sure isn't for everyone, their cinematics exploring the lore and world further sure are magnificent and definitely worth a watch ;)
If you listen carefully when the bomb went off. You can here a metal bang before the blast. Seems like echo kicked it before it exploded. Also, silco was trying to protect jinx from vi in the end. Vi kept naming everyone and jinx was going crazy.
Silco is one of the best written anti-villains in modern entertainment, he wants the undercity to thrive and the only way to do it is to fight as dirty as possible. He doesn't just murder indiscriminately, it always has a purpose, and always to further his goal which in the end, is a noble one. They live in the sewage of a incredibly rich city who with their power and knowledge to help, and yet refuses. He did love Jinx, he manipulated her, but he also spoke truth. They did abandon jinx, and he didn't. He went through the same thing she did, and often people forget that if we saw silcos entire backstory with vander, and how he was betrayed, we would probably have the same compassion for him as for Jinx. Because we were shaped by what powder was.
@@MegaMilenche I think it was intentional that one of the upper leader's kid was working there, but I don't think the rest are intentional, but just exploiting whatever labour he can (though it's up for interpretation as the other commentor says).
That's why she's called jinx, just like how she jinxed Vander's escape and killed her whole crew, when the peace talk Is about to reach a conclusion she f- it all up again.
S2 might be a while, but not as long as S1, which I believe was in production for something like 6 years. There are some cool behind the scenes of production. I know you guys have been wary of how animation may do on the channel, but after ATLA and this, I think you’re ready to jump into Attack on Titan. Plenty of political intrigue and mystery to keep you hooked. And it does well on YT haha.
Mel isn't dead, throughout the season there are hints alluding to the fact that she has arcane power herself. My bet is that she either shields herself, or her and Jayce, or the entire council with some sort of forcefield, but reveals her arcane abilities so gets shunned.
She does? I've heard people talk about her armour shining gold somehow meaning she's shielded, but I don't know where else it alludes to her having any magick
No League of Legends is not a garbage game, but except from the characters and the basic lore it has nothing to do with the show. League of Legends basically is a 5 vs. 5 online game. It is no open world game and no rpg. You fight in an arena and the goal is to destroy the enemy teams „Nexus“ so to speak, their base. You can choose between over 160 different Champions to play and we only saw Jinx, Vi, Caitlyn, Singed, Jace, Viktor, Ekko and Heimerdinger in the show. All the other characters are not from the Game, they were created for the show. Almost every gamer has heard of League of Legends. It was released in 2009 and it still has millions of players. The game is a lot of fun, but the community is very….toxic sometimes. But regardless of that, it is a great game.
Yesss alpha mama is such a cool character. That was a great observation. It’s rare to see older women as main characters none the less a complete, muscled out, alpha boss. She’s epic
Wait i just realized something. In the show vi says powders good with her gadgets which are technology. And vi gift is fighting which is her physical strength. Vi is pink and jinx is blue. When vi gets hextech golves which are technology jinx gets shemer which inhances you're physical skills. Hextech is blue shemer is pink. A little bit of powder exist in vi and little bit of vi exists in power. Like yin and yang. Also vi wearing the hextech can remind vi how powder used to be and shemer can mean powder finally became strong like her hero.😊
i love Arcane, i watched it so often like 20 tiems already no cap. And you can always find new things to discover. 16:20 For example in the scene, where jinx saw caitlyn portayed as the devil. Vi was scratched out, in the point of jinx view. which emans jinx was comepeltely tunnel visioned on caitlyn as a thread, which is also why she shoot in Vis direction. She just didnt realised Vi is right next to her this scene is blured here on the reaction tho.but you can see it in the full scene usally. Or at 19:50 if you listen closely, you can hear the sound of ekko hitting the grenady away. Just before it explodes, but you only hear it if you know its coming, because its so suddle.
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It seems like its going to be very similar to what with Naruto and sasuke in shippuden. Most likely vi will appeal to powder more than anyone else can. She and ekko get under powder skin when no one else really does. In Naruto sasuke was always calm for the most part. But Naruto was the one who always go to him. Which was basically a sign that Naruto could get through to him. Also i think savieka will be taking charge, that’s what her being in silcos office symbolized. Ekko and himodinger will try to bring good to the undercity. Mels mom will take jinx attack as a way to deal with the undercity and taking a place as a position of power in piltover. Afterwards, because everyone listens to her she can take advantage of their resources to fight the wars in her country. Jayce could’ve saved some of the council members with his hammer shield. But Mel might be in the hospital. Caitlyn will take charge for the hunt for powder because of the attack on her mom. Jinx symbolizes chaos, she’s too fast, good with bombs and gadgets, and and very bad with timing. Her trama makes her unstable. She was hurt by the undercity and piltover. So she’s on no ones side. It seems like she wants deal out the chaotic damage she has felt. And as for vi, Vander warn her not to go down the path with diving into her emotions and getting into fights. Vander regrets trying to rebel against piltover because it got people on both sides killed and trying to kill for silco who was like his brother. Vi punched powder out of anger and help make her, her ambush on silcos factory got a kid killed, and beating sivika didn’t help her. There’s damage in the under city. And damage in piltover after what powder did. It seems like for the sake of her sister, she’s going go down Vander way and try to maintain the peace.
There are more cinematics on the league universe, you can see Jinx messing piltover in one of those~ and you should watch the pages explaining each character, I'm sure Viktor will surprise you a lot ;)
So many people were always thinking the shot went to the moon.
Why would you even think that? The moon was simply there it night time and maybe to make it look more cinematic. A RED MOON.
Why would she shoot the moon, what would even one little bazuca shot do to the moon?
Can't wait for Season 2 as well!
Some predictions. I think Mel, Jayce and Viktor will survive.
Caitlyn's mom going to died. Caitlyn will become a Sheriff.
Also, Silco mirrored Vander. Vander wasn't willing to fight and potentially lose more people for his war... Silco wasn't willing to give up Jinx... He finally got why Vander didn't want to fight. "Is there anything more undoing than a daughter?"
Well, Vander and two daughters and two sons.
Jokes aside, absolutely. Silco's progression was almost the same as Vander's. Over the years with Jinx, he stopped seeking war because he realized that there were things he was not willing to lose, while the people following him took it as being weak and started a mutiny (although failed).
What a masterpiece of a show this is.
@@aaronyin9586 Where the fuck did you get that? The people following him were the ones not wanting a war, as it hurt their profits. It is clearly said.
Jayce mirrored Marcus, who mirrored Grayson.
@@aaronyin9586Even better is that Silco is purely a creation of the show. He's not a character from the game with established lore, and they created him and he is practically flawless in his role in the show. Just beautifully written
Best scene in the show was Silco talking to Vanders statue.
One of my favorite underrated moments in this show is Victor diffusing the grenade. Jayce says, "We may not have a choice," and Victor hesitates with his knife under the wire, as though contemplating letting it go off, so that the only two minds who could weaponize hextech against the Undercity would be wiped out. But he diffuses it and says, "There is ALWAYS a choice," because he just made his, to use the Shimmer and try to keep living. I love that.
@@mid1880 someone forgot to tell Marcus that he could've defused the butterffly bomb that took off his arm and his life. oh well...
@@mid1880 first, you can't always defuse a grenade.
second, everything else you said does not contradict anything OP said, it just has a different emphasis.
viktor ma boi =(
Interestingly, mirroring the scene where Marcus thinks about setting off the grenade in Silco's office. Also a choice, though Marcus seems to be the type to argue there wasn't really a choice.
YES YES FINALLY SOMEONE TALKS ABOUT THIS
The rocket launcher Jinx uses is shaped like a shark because it was supposed to be a gift for Silco, who said in his first appearance that he likes sea monsters. Yknow, incase there wasnt enough emotional damage happenning in that scene.
You think that since her guns talk to her in the game, and the way the "We will show them all" played as she put Fishbones up to her ear that the launcher will have Silco's voice from now on?
@@TriXJester what was that voice line of hers in the game? "I'm thinking about getting another gun. ....Don't tell my other guns, ok?"
@@TriXJester Since shes been shown to have visual and auditory hallucinations of Milo and Claggor, whom she also killed, and converses with them during the show, absolutely. Hopefully however Ghost Silco will be much nicer for her since he told her it was okay as he died.
No, it's not supppsed to be a gift for Silco. It was never stated, hinted or anything. I'm not sure how you guys think this is legit. Jinx usually incorporates animals and cartoons into her work, that's why. This isn't a gift. It's just one of her art.
@@TheDarkstar3601Well, how about this: who was the one continuously pushing Jinx to make the weapon ever since she first stole the gemstone? Silco directly asked Jinx to make the weapon. And everything Jinx did through most of the series was to prove herself to Silco, her father figure, and to win his respect and love. Of course it was for him. And even if it hadn’t been intended as a gift for him to wield personally, she still designed it because he asked her to. It makes sense she would draw inspiration for its appearance from creatures he admires.
"Don't cry, you're perfect"
Silco is definitely in my top 3 favourite villains of all time. What a masterpiece this show was, definitely on the same level as Avatar The Last Airbender.
"It was perfect, perfect, down to the last minute detail"
Silco is a fantastically written villain in my opinion. He is cruel and vicious he is a monster in his dealings, but he is relatable he has his soft moments, he has goals and desires that yeah check out, freedom for his repressed people. His "nothing more undoing than a daughter" line shows that he truly cares for her and is willing to give up on his dream to ensure her safety.
Agree he is an amazing character. I think they kind of glossed over most of the Silco/Jinx scenes for some reason.
"A hero would sacrifice you to save the world, but a villain would sacrifice the world to save you." Silco is awesome.
I think people are too quickly to make Silco strictly a villain. He's a revolutionary, he isn't doing the underworld crime for its own purposes, he's been consistently working for the nation of Zaun since the original uprising in the opening (where Vander gave up). If you contrast the approach that Vander used (go along to get along) with what Silco did (cause enough problems that topside will negotiate and give freedom) it is Silco's way that works much better/closer at actually freeing the underground. I don't think the council is "good" just because they are the fortunate people that get to oppress the underworld and live high on the land, and Silco isn't "bad" just because he's fighting for the underground and works against the enforcers and the laws of the land that favor the powerful. Breaking the law isn't an evil act, the first episode with the kids has us on the kids side of the thief job against the topside, and that perspective should be kept even when the underground turns over from Vander to Silco.
The place where Silco finally understands Vander's perspective and decides to value Jinx over Zaun and basically repeat the decisions of Vander is at the very finale, and it is really the first time he prioritizes his own wants of the dream of the nation of Zaun. And it is debatable if that was the right choice or not - there isn't really a clear heroic choice. Be a good father and value the found family he's created with Jinx or be the good revolutionary and finally free Zaun.
Also, Silco isn't overly cruel in his dealings. We see early on that Vander has to bully people from the folks trying to rip off the deal at the beginning (don't threaten the guy that makes the drinks) to his talking down the crowd (do I look scared? you look week), Vander controls folks. Silco does similarly with the cutting off the air to keep the other leaders in line, or threatening Marcus in his daughter's room (but in a way that probably mostly goes over the head of the daughter), but in neither case is he cruel, he's just enforcing his order and keeping the underground working the way he wants and needs it for the greater purpose of the nation of Zaun.
@@michaelbodell7740 You're right, he's not really a villain but he his the main antagonist of this story.
Vi never knew the gauntlet got shield because like everyone implied, she never blocks 😂
She does block. With her face.
"A hero would sacrifice you to save the world, but a villain would sacrifice the world to save you."
Silco was a perfect villain and completely relatable as a father.
TLoU energy
@@zissoulander Yeah kinda. Except Silco is bad father in sense he is fully villainous. Well gray character at least.
A hero would sacrifice themself to save the world, not someone else.
A villain sacrifices anything besides their desires.
@@alesksander Joel has a dark pre-history to the game. He was looting and hunting people before. So not that clean father too. And don't forget, he killed all the gun seller's guys and almost everyone of the Fireflights. None of those are 'white' things to do.
@@benjamintherogue2421 Any hero would let one person die for the good for others. So the quote is totally fine.
If you look closely, you will see that the explosion tore off Marcus' entire arm. Kaitlyn was close but Marcus got wrecked.
Missed that
Arcane is the show where NO little thing goes unexplained. I tried. The creators worked long and hard. The thing about Marcus is: the exploding butterflies were targeted and sat on firearms, so Marcus getting wrecked is no coincidence those holding weapons got wrecked. He already was closer to explosion initially than Caitlyn, plus he pulled his weapon closer to inspect the "butterfly" right before the boom.
@BaddMedicine If you look even closer, you can see the butterflies target the enforcer weapons. Caitlyn traded hers earlier, so that's likely the only reason she survived.
@@shipso6116 Yep, yep. And as for how Ekko and Jinx survive the explosion, listen closely to right before the explosion goes off and you can hear the sound of metal striking metal- Ekko batting away the bomb so it doesn't explode right in their faces!
@@shipso6116 ive always wondered how the butterflies worked and why they barely hurt caitlyn and vi, that makes a lot of sense that they target weapons wow
On Jayce's "jackedness", it is stated that his family was responsible for hammer production, so seemingly that's where the physical labour comes from.
And I'm sure he is hands on making prototype components for any new products rather than just a theory guy so regularly does metalwork and heavy lifting etc - that my head canon anyway
All of it is Jace 😂😂😂😂
His family owned a hammer factory. Not exactly working on the line, y'know?
@@dyslexicfaser he is what you would call a blacksmith... which also creates or `invents` new tools.
Been a long time since I’ve had a crush on an animated character, but man is he good looking 😅
"don't cry, you're perfect"
her entire life she got called a "jinx" even by the people closest to her, and the fact that he was the only person to EVER tell her otherwise even after she kills him shows how much he truly loved her, Silco is written so well and one of the best villains there is, can't wait for season 2
He didn't tell her otherwise though.
He just tell her or convince her that being a jinx...being herself...is perfect. That she doesn't have to be anything else...just herself..unlike Vi who keep trying to make her into POWER.
"Is there anything more undoing than a daughter?"
I sobbed like a child.
mel mom feel the same thing. 😂😂😂
„What Could Have Been“ by Sting and Ray Chen is a masterpiece. This series is a masterpiece. The story, the characters, the visuals, the music, everything. I don’t care how long Season 2 takes, as long as it is as good as Season 1!
Bruh I have the entire sound track on my phone with special artwork I downloaded for each song.
What could have been and Goodbye stay on repeat
Is it "by" someone if they are merely the performers of another artist's composition?
Still a fantastic song, I'm just being semantically petty. :P
@@5ilver42 They are the artists that play the song... so yes?
I'm a little scared of that - Season 1 sets the bar so high in every aspect, that it won't be possible to repeat that level of perfection.
Season 1 took six years, and it shows. Thankfully, the groundwork is done so season 2 shouldn't take that long. As much as I want it NOW, I agree that I want it to be done right. Waiting is gonna hurt, but it'll be so worth it.
Honestly, Viktor was a surprise favorite for me. Usually those types of characters have a very obvious "good scientist that turns evil" trope but I like that despite him doing things for himself the goal remained the same for him. Helping people. His humanity is still intact.
Also Ekko's whole look and design is siiiick
Can't wait to see his "glorious evolution" era.
"his humanity is still intact" hoooo boy he sure doesnt want that
20:48. Did you hear a clang before explosion? People are thinking that Ekko hit the grenade away with a pipe, saving both of their lives
Ekko kicked the grenade that’s why Jinx survived with while Ekko's feet got fucked up...
thats why we see his "pipe" thing at the end. the clang also sounds metalic.
@@Jibi-kunoh that makes sense
@@Jibi-kun That's just speculation. The only definite thing is Ekko's legs/feet got injured cause he jumped off the bridge to escape the explosion.
@@fraker12 he jumped from enforcers. He had time to smack pipe but definitely not enough to jump off. And if he jumped off, Jinx would be blown to pieces
"There is ALWAYS a choice"
Viktor CHOSE to disarm the grenade at the last second to prove a point to jayce
Almost no one ever picks up on this savage detail
i agree with this. i also had the thought his suicidal thoughts probably played a part in his delay too
Also Sevika executing Finn is a masterpiece in storytelling. Silco trusted in Sevika's loyalty, but he couldn't be 100% sure and was still visibly scared; and Sevika, an example of a perfect soldier, committed to the cause and not a leader, never questioning Silco in public and simply unwavering.
“Were you tempted?”
“Not for a worm like him… but there will be more”
I love Sevika and her undying loyalty to the cause. She may not be a leader, but she will always be there to keep the leaders in check.
and the direct opposite of how things went down with vander and her.
@@Brainth_1780 And this attitude of hers kind of forces Silco to also be loyal to the cause.
@@danii7584sevika wasnt loyal with vander or silco, Vander abandoned the cause so what do you expect. She was loyal to the cause.
Damn, reading comments like this makes me appreciate how good they did Arcane. Like, I feel like watching other reactors again, hoping to they'll notice such details
The scene where Victor runs along the docks made me cry the first time I saw it, it still gives me chills.
I had just lost my ability to walk properly when this came out, and it has deteriorated to me using crutches and a wheelchair, so that scene for me is incredibly moving and relatable for me
I can only imagine.
He also outruns the boat in the background, mirroring how he couldn't keep up with his little boat as a kid
Yeah, that scene is very powerful with all the background foreshadowing...
You see Viktor as a child with a bum leg and his crutch. IF he was able to ever run in his life, it hasn't been for a few decades...so I like to watch this scene imagining it's the first time Viktor ever ran in his life...and his primal scream as he runs as fast as his legs will take him always gets me.
The raw yell when he realized it was happening. It wasn't joy, anger, or any other discernible entity. It was just pure, raw emotion.
And what is even more beautiful tho. Because Arcane is so well written this thematic can be expanded beyond crutches. This scene can be seen as metaphor. All obstacles can be overcome no matter how hard it is. If you try it can happen soon or later. Go slow and then faster. Although catharsis for Victor and me as audience is very very strong. Beautifully crafted scene with picture, score and voice acting combined in perfect harmony. Cheefs kiss
on viktor disarming the bomb just in time: i always read the way he paused with the knife against the wire as hesitation not because he thought it was the wrong wire, but because he knew it was the right one. jayce says they have no choice but to invest in weapons that will kill people, a lot of whom will likely be viktor's own people - and he pauses in the middle of disarming this bomb, almost lets it kill him and jayce both... and then cuts the wire, right at the last second. "there is always a choice". viktor is making the choice for peace, for not spilling blood, even when it'd be easier to let the bomb go off and kill them. in viktor's eyes, it isn't too late to stop the bomb (the war between piltover and zaun) from going off, if jayce and the rest of the council can just find the guts to cut the wire. but that's just how i read it :]
I think he was also contemplating the fact that by letting it go off he’d also be taking out the only two people who currently have the knowledge to weaponize the hextech, besides Jynx although she only has the one gemstone and presumably doesn’t know how to make more. For Jynx, it’s similar to fact that I know how to use a battery to power different things but I don’t know how to make them. I’m sure the council could find someone else smart enough to eventually figure it out and do it, but it would likely take many years for that to happen. So he’d be sacrificing their lives to prevent, or at least postpone the conflict from being escalated by their side which would almost force the council into having to find a peaceful resolution. It’s interesting how the dialogue combined with that moment of hesitation can say so much about what is potentially going through Viktor’s mind at that moment. It’s just excellent storytelling!
"and you still block with your face" I love that line lmao
This is my favorite line of the series.
And then in their final fight with Sevika she uses the shield, thus blocking properly.
Or at least that's how I saw that moment
@@Karas540 nah, she didn't use the shield, she was saved by dumb luck because jayce wanted to protect miners from cave-ins.
if she had fought jayce he would have demolished her, if she used his creation that he knows inside out against him.
well, given that she is basically a brawling god as teenager one should acknowledge some level of plot armor and op at this point.
@@danii7584 I'm not sure what are you getting at? Why bring up Jayce?
I love how after Viktor gets his new leg, he tries running alongside the ships like he did when he was a kid.
if you notice in the past episode jinx is always on high alert trying to avoid death. But in the scene in episode 7 when ekkos is on top of her, her face relaxes and smiles. She doesn’t move away from the bom she stays right under ekko, like she wanted to die. Jinx has been dealing with trama for years and by her self. Most people think about actually committing suicide. The fight between ekko and jinx was the same play fight they did when they were kids so it must have been a nostalgic moment for her. So why not die in the arms of her childhood best friend? Plus in the game it was mentioned that ekko had a crush on powder when they were kids. And the arcane enemy music video shows there were a lot of scenes of ekko and powder together as kids.
I think there is another idea. One of her main motives and purpose of existence was to prove her usefulness, that she was not weak, but here she openly lost. That is, she was ready to leave, since she had no reason to live.
@@JohnSmithVGA Then her smile and nostalgia wouldn't make sense. If she would have tried to kill herself bc of that then she would have been frustrated and sad as she tries it, her face shows otherwise, she was trying to do it bc she didn't want to live in that shitty world anymore, the world that corrupted her and her best friend enough to try to kill each other. Plus, during the first three eps we always see Powder's eyes as grey and after the time skip as blue, this is the only scene (just when she's about to kill herself) with grey eyes again, representing the same for Ekko making him stop, Powder came back for a moment there. So, yes, the reason why she does it isn't bc her motivation of being useful couldn't happen but bc of how much she hates what the world did to her and to Ekko since they were kids, as she finally has a lucid moment since she was at that state of her mind when she was a kid, thinking it would be best for them both to just leave this world.
What ai love in this scene is that they both spared the other, ekko obivously at the end but during the slow mo when he jumps, we see jinx's gun following ekko without missing a bit, but she doesn't pull the trigger
@@alex._420 she didn't have the time to shoot bc he outsmarted her by making her change her fight style to the one she used when they were kids, this was confirmed by the creators.
The MV was so wholesome with them as kids. They're just babies 😢
As kids we wanted to be the hero’s, as adults we understand the villains.
Well said.
I think it’s not just Jace who feels the reality of violence. Everyone is amped through the combat scene, absorbed in the “coolness” that is their fighting.. only to be harshly reminded that: There is no glory in violence.
Yeah, that scene was perfectly executed. Nobody watches that scene without getting caught up in how cool it is, only for the sudden halting screech when the kid gets smoked. Gives the audience a perfect whiplash mirroring that of the heightened emotional state of the combatants being brutally yanked out of their 'battle high'.
Episode 8 is very much an episode of whiplash: we have a high when Viktor gets his foot back, then *bam* Sky is dead. Then again Jayce is fighting Silco’s forces, and then a child is dead. The journeys mirror each other, which leads perfectly to episode 9 where they decide they must go back to their roots
I wouldn't describe it as 'coolness'. I think it was a release of years of pent-up frustration of being able to do nothing about the villains negatively impacting the people and place you care about, only to realise they were innocent people that were victims too. In this case kids.
@@allbies Everyone = the audience. Jace definitely wasn’t absorbed in the wicked choreography of the scene like the viewers were.
@@chelsiemcnatt335 Oh sorry I misread 🙂
Vi to Powder in ep 2: "what makes you different makes you strong. Always remember that"
Jinx to Vi in ep 9: "I thought you could love me like you used to even though I'm different"
^- that part
This is the main weak writing point of the show to me. At no point did Vi show any amount of unwillingness to love her still despite the fact she's killed dozens of people. She just didn't want Jinx killing more, and if that's not a negotiable thing, then Jinx is too far gone.
@@SleepyStreak No. She wanted Powder back. I am not saying that is a "bad" thing... but the whole thing was that Vi did not show willingness to accept Jinx... she only wanted Powder back.
When Vi and Silco was yelling to Jinx, it was Vi who made it worse by saying all the wrong things. She wanted her to be Powder and wanted her to go back to the way she used to be... but all that is pure trauma for Jinx.
The essence of that particular interaction, is that you can never go back... you have to go forward. That means accepting Jinx as she is right now. Then the healing can begin.
That whole scene is basically a repeat of EP3. Powder tried to help with the monkey bomb and it blew up in her face. Likewise Vi tried to help by getting Jinx to remember what she used to be like... but it blew up in her face.
Both had good intentions, but both didn't understand what they were dealing with.
@@SleepyStreak It isn't weak writing - it's actually a brilliant flaw in Jinx's character. Vi very clearly does still love Jinx, but she isn't capable of proving it in a way Jinx will believe. Jinx only sees the worst of intentions from everyone, and her insecurity and desperation to prove her own assumptions right ends up destroying her.
I don't agree with the people who say that Vi wanted "Powder" back - she would have been fine if her sister had allowed her to love her. No, she might not have been okay with the wanton killing... but she absolutely would have helped her to work through the trauma. Vi and Powder are great examples of trauma dealt with two different ways. Vi was older and had a lot of time for introspection, plus learned a lot from Vander. Powder's starting place and growing up was completely different and her trauma takes over.
@@bulletsandbracelets4140it’s not entirely jinx’s fault. Vi uses memories of milo and claggor to try and convince jinx, despite the fact that it seems like both of them didn’t really care for powder that much, and in fact milo seems to be the source of some of jinx’s mental problems. Vi is stuck in the past with a different version of powder in her mind, someone innocent and happy, whereas jinx is a new person. Vi wants jinx to go back to how she was, whereas jinx hates that part of her life. She always felt inadequate and helpless, now as jinx she is strong and even feared. Vi doesn’t really have any idea what jinx is feeling, which is understandable because she kept it all to herself.
Viktor's leg was changed by the Hexcore. The Shimmer just reinforced his body so he could handle the transformation.
The Shimmer changed his nature
It looks like, with every exchange, Victor becomes more machine and the Hexcore becomes more organic.
FOR THE GLORIOUS EVOLUTION
@@livingphantom Oh man. So excited to see Viktor get into that in season 2 (or 3, who knows). Say the line, Viktor. Say it. hehehe
@@Shythalia could imagine sky's death triggering some sort of frankensteins monster arc where he gets found out and condemned.
and the coolest easteregg ever, to ppl who know the game, can be seen when vi first encounters sevika after being sprung out of prison: take a close look at the cards she drops when being kicked into her face :)
I just want to take a quick moment to thank you guys for a well formatted reaction. I know its hard for a group of people to do this without it being a loud mess
Thank you for watching with us! 🤜🤛
Yes, still believe there are times when some of them are needlessly talking over dialogue. And I will also never understand why some people need to associate everything they see, every character they see, with different references like the MCU or whatever. Nobody cares if a character makes you think of Chewbacca or Marty McFly tbh. Just watch the show. Those comments can wait to be made during the post-show analysis.
@@Zedem0n as someone who watched different reaction youtubers for this series, badd medicine's the only one i enjoyed. sometimes they talk over the scenes like you said but it's not distracting. it's so boring if it's too quiet or if you wait for thoughts and comments after an episode ends - might as well skip to that part or watch it myself. the point of me seeing people's reaction is because i wanna know how others feel about what i liked. because i was hyped, i wanna see how they're gonna get hyped. even if it means talking about characters in other films and series
@@Zedem0neven if they sometimes talk over dialogue, I think they pay attention and almost never miss the point of the scenes, besides one of them always catch details the others don't and share the info if one of them didn't get certain thing.
That's why this is a *reaction*, if they just sit down without talking or sharing their thoughts then what's the point.
@@lex_lvs_scara Yes I agree! I really dislike when reactors just talk over parts and completely miss important bits. But I notice that Badd Medicine is really good at avoiding that - like even if they talk, they're almost always paying attention and ready to stop mid-sentence to tune in again, so their talking has never felt distracting. Almost like they're talking "around".the important parts if that makes sense. Besides, like you said, I think it helps that someone else is most definitely watching and catching details to share with the group. I'm always so impressed at their insights and discussion.
The monsters Jinx was seeing when Vi was naming off her friends at the dinner scene poetically ties into the story Vi told earlier about when she and Powder were little they would make up monsters and they'd get bigger and bigger until Powder got scared.
Now the great irony at the dinner table is that Vi thinks she is helping her sister by making Powder remember all her loved ones, but to Jinx they are her demons, her monsters, that torment her because of the role she played in their demise. Just one of the many great small details in this show that are easy to miss but once you realize they are there they make the show transcend into a true work of art.
another fun fact about this animation, nothing of the animation is mocapped (captured via those suits you usually see behind the scenes) everything is done manually , frame by frame. Also the reason mels mother is so jacked is because she is part of the noxians, they value strength over all, even the leadership of the nation is decided by it
From what I recall from the behind the scenes footage is that they had a room set up for animators to record themselves to experiment with facial expressions and motions instead of doing the mocap
@@Mars-l9b that's actually been the standard approach in the west for decades. Any artist or animator will tell you, you draw from reference. 3d animation isn't any different.
If you look at behind the scenes stuff for any high quality animated movie, it's the same thing - filmed reference as a start for motion. Some animators can get away with doing basic standard stuff without reference, but that's because they've seen that reference like 1000 times.
Not really frame by frame. The way they animate this is by making a few key poses with keyframes. Then the 3D software will go from one pose to the other.
Of course a lot of times there need to be more poses in between the key poses to make it smoother and to avoid clipping of parts of the body.
Everything Vi is saying, starts to trigger Jinx while Silco is trying to calm her down. Jinx has bad memories of Mylo, Claggor & Vandor, but Silco tells her that she matters to him.
Btw it was Silco that calmed down Jinx to some degree at the end. Vi was unknowingly making things worse by reminding her of Mylo/Claggor/their mom. And while he's wrong about Vi, he isn't really lying about her. He knew that Marcus got her but he still thought that Vi had abandoned Powder and then got caught after that. He doesn't know that she didn't really intend to leave Powder there. So he truthfully and understandably believes that Vi did abandon Powder like Vander did to him. He's wrong, but he's not being dishonest for the sake of manipulating her, he really thinks he's the only one who cares. The one time he "lied" about Vi was by not telling Jinx that she was back, which is again because he really believed she wasn't really there for Jinx. He's wrong again, but it's all based on his misunderstanding that Vi had completely abandoned Powder.
I understand thinking he's manipulating her the entire time, I went through my entire first watch thinking that until at the end he makes it so clear how much he genuinely cares. Even then at first I took that as just him wanting her to go on believing in him or continue his work, but that doesn't really make sense. After thinking about it and rewatching the show I noticed how much more all his actions make sense with the understanding that he really felt a connection with her over his abandonment and her perceived abandonment, and truly thought of her as his daughter, and I felt kinda stupid for how I originally thought it was just all him manipulating her. He definitely makes mistakes and doesn't really know the best way to raise and help her, but he also definitely loved her more than anything and tried his best. It doesn't really seem like there's much mental health support in this world though, especially not in Zaun, so it's also kind of hard to blame him entirely.
He also did genuinely improve the undercity in a lot of ways too imo, as shown by the fact the water is much more breathable and the water is much more clean. They have good prosthetics, and pretty impressive medical tech. He did also earn more respect from Piltover towards Zaun and very nearly attained independence from the. A lot of that wouldn't have happened as quickly or at all without his leadership. Of course, he also causes a lot of harm due to his ruthlessness and very questionable ethical practices (the children in the shimmer facilities, all the shimmer addicts and him using their addiction, etc). He's not really a villain imo, no one in this show really is, which I think is a testament to its writing. He's a revolutionary who genuinely brings about a lot of positive change, but uses questionable methods to reach his goals. It's a matter of whether or not his ends justify his means, and that's up to the viewer to decide.
In the end, his love for Jinx is both arguably his biggest redeeming quality and also his failure as a leader, since he essentially abandons his cause in the end to save Jinx, on top of arguably protecting her from her mistakes all this time (although she was undeniably useful to the cause, as their overall most proficient fighter arguably, as well as retrieving the gemstone). Jinx tragically misunderstands this due to her insecurities and mental health issues which were worsened by the Shimmer that saved her life, so in the end it all falls apart, both his desire to save her and his desire to gain independence for Zaun, due to Jinx and Silco's mutual failings. Although, at least Jinx is still alive, and Zaun could still win it's independence, although it almost certainly won't be done cleanly after what Jinx started with the rocket. I wouldn't really call either of them villains, but tragic grey characters. I'd really like for Jinx to somehow find help for her issues and a better life, but I don't really see that happening. It's possible she will just transition into more of a pure villain role next season and end up dying, although I'm holding out hope it won't be that simple and I have a lot of faith in the writers after the first season was so incredible.
My highest hope would be that somehow through hextech or something they can develop something to help with her mental issues, even if she has to pay for her crimes. If she just ends up rotting in Stillwater prison though that would be about the worst ending I could see, I would rather see her die than just end up there. That place is clearly awful, but Caitlyn might improve it, so we'll see. I'm curious to see if they just end up leaving her in a similar spot to her role in the game's lore, on the run and sort of a trickster (although more dark than her game counterpart). I would be ok with that. However with how much they've done their own thing and made the story a lot more real and grim I'm expecting more closure, either her dying or ending up caught, I just hope it isn't completely horrible. I want some good to happen to her, this story has been so cruel to her.
Yes to all but not the last part. Arcane creators can't kill League of Legends champions because they don't want to close their stories. They kinda want to make like open endings. All Arcane is the past of the League of Legends present. Is kinda a spoiler, I did knew Jinx, Jayce, Vi, Viktor, Caitlyn, Ekko, Heimmerdinger, Singed (Viktor's "mentor") and any character that is a League of Legends champion can't die. Jinx certainly won't die next season. In short, they don't kill the characters in their game because part of the fun is the lore, and closing the story of the characters in the game would make it lose the fun. It would be weird to play with characters that you already know are dead in the story. Anyway, the series is just as entertaining and totally maintains the suspense because even if you know that they won't die, you have no idea how they are going to get out of that situation. Since I already have knowledge of what they are like in the "present", It's very curious how they got there. In the first chapters watching Vi and Jinx's relationship, I was very curious how they ended up being "rivals".
Pd: English it's not my mother tongue, srry if my writing is kinda weird xP
Btw they are making modifications to the official lore and characters to fit with Arcane, which they confirmed will be the lore canon. And I highly doubt they'll do anything about Jinx's mental health. She even has a line in the game that says "I'm crazy! I have a medical certificate and everything" and "You think I'm crazy? You should see my sister." Although it is obviously painful to see her suffer, ultimately the essence of her character is that she is crazy.
"In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good." A line I will forever remember.
Shimmer is, after the time skip, kinda like real medication, if you take just a little it helps (like to Silco's eye or Vi's injury) but if you take a lot you'll end up high and creating an addiction.
I always though Silco 'poked' his eyes to make it leaks polluant outside before it leaked in him since he got injected from the drown scene.
1:14:48 Silco didn't lie when he said Vi abandoned Jinx, Marcus did tell him she was dead, he didn't find out she was alive till episode 5 when she got to the underground with Caitlyn.
I’ve always felt that Silco believed everything that he said.
He believed that Vi really did abandon Jinx and that they only came back for the crystal, maybe due to his own abandonment issues?
@@deadroses6493 nah, it's a reasonable assumption given that vi shows up with an enforcer right after jinx stole the gem. they could've improved his dialogue with vi during their encounter with the drug fiends in this regard.
@@danii7584 but it is in fact linked to his abandonment issues bc when they're talking about that he talks about how everyone always abandons them so it is shown how (for no matter reason he believes it) this hits him emotionally for how it affects Jinx for her abandonment which he knows how it feels, which is why he believes they can just have each other and get each other bc of it.
@@jrlombardi5251 I don't think it's about the "just have each other" aspect, and about her abandoning him, but rather about her getting screwed over by vi again, which is the story that powder told him. and he knows what it's like to get betrayed and possibly killed/drowned.
so I don't think it's abandonment issues to a high degree, ofc there are some since he considers jinx the only person he can trust, since he identifies with her struggle, probably even projects his own issues onto her.
@@danii7584 hon, read, I never said it's about her abandoning him, I said he can relate to her feeling of abandonment bc of Vi bc he experienced it in his own too, so he knows what it is like and doesn't trust, which is why he says everyone does that to them and by that putting them at the same level bc, yes, they feel like they can just count with each other.
Your point about Vi doing it again and how he knows what that feels like it's literally what I said, so you're contradicting nothing of my point and you're reading terribly if you somehow got to that conclusion.
And for the last, your conclusion literally says and proves it is about the abandonment issues, you're just contradicting yourself bc you're not getting the topic itself you're talking about. You should start to think more about what you say, read better, pay more attention and, if by then you still need it, get some info about the topic you're talking about, that way you'll understand so you'll not contradict yourself so much and think what was shown isn't what's going on.
The visual storytelling in the series is amazing but when it comes to visual storytelling the fight between Jinx and Ekko must be one of my favourite moments!!
Yea by far the best fight. So short and sweet and super sad! There rematch is gonna be over the top. Poor ekko. Hope he gets his time watch invented before then.
Yes yes yes! I’ve been waiting for this with bated breath! You guys are incredible as always, and I CANNOT WAIT to see what you’ve all got to say about this explosive ending 🎉❤❤❤
LETS GOOOOOO
Yessssss finally we get the finale 3 episodes!!
There's so many reasons why this was probably the best made animation based on the game / lore of League, whilst it takes ideas it does have it's own thrown in there as well.
The hype for season 2, that's hopefully going to be released next year is something that has big boots to fill!
TBF i m fine if they release in 3 yrs time, Just take time and make it property like this season. Witch was 6yrs in making and it really shows. It took aprox 3yrs of concept work and 3 yrs of hard animation art drawing. So yeah i m fine if they just do it property even if they need time.
i heard that they didnt want it to take as long as the first season, but we will have to wait two years max. so not awful but not great at the same time.@@alesksander
Episode 7 has probably my favourite moment in the entire series, if not any series. It's super subtle but an absolute moment of genius. When Jayce is talking about maybe not having a choice when it comes to weaponising Hextech Victor hesitates for a moment while disarming Jinx's bomb. He realises that the only two people on Runeterra with Hextech knowledge is he and Jayce and all he has to do is let the bomb go off and the threat of Hextech weapons is eliminated. Then he makes the choice to cut the wire, disabling the bomb and tells Jayce "There's always a choice".
Utter brilliance.
The scene with Viktor running along the docks passing the boats in the background is SUCH a underrated scene because we saw that as a kid he wasn't able to keep up with his toy boat due to his disabilities.
The gold pieces on Mels back and shoulder shine right before the missle strikes and she looks over her shoulder. It's commonly believed that this is some form of defensive system and not everyone in the room will die. In point of fact in the series, Arcane: Bridging the Rift, the director of music for the series lets a spoiler slip. Check it out if you're curious! It's an amazing behind the scenes story of how this series came to be.
Yeah! It always seemed like it might be protective armour, to compensate for not being as (physically) strong as her mother maybe?
The making of Arcane is definetely worth watching. It's a story by itself.
the ekko vs jinx fight is such a unique way to tell the difference in how much both of them changed since before all the bs happened, and very visually appealing. probably my favourite animated fight ever
You should definitely watch the making-of Arcane series (Bridging the Rift) to tide you over. It's almost as amazing as the show, and when you learn what they went through to make it, you'll be even more astonished at how fantastic it was.
Here's a fun detail: The music box with sparklers in it on the table at the end of episode 9 is one of the items Powder stole from Jayce in episode 1. It means, at some point, she went into the river and got their bag of loot back.
No, she stuffed that in her belt bag
@@sharonoddlyenough Crap, you're right. :(
“Can we just let her heal naturally?” As she’s actively dying 💀 observation is not the guy on the right’s strong suit 😂
Ambessa Medarda: "Every time my daughter was disappointed in me, I did one push up."
I think the only news we have about Season 2 is that it's not gonna be done in 2023 and that sometime around April 2023 they had 3 or 4 episodes completed.
gyat damn so it's going to be in 2025 if they can manage to pick it up. It's a whole nother attack on titan situation
They can take their sweet time. Season 1 took 6 years to produce, and while season 2 won’t take that long, I’m willing to wait as long as necessary. Quality storytelling and animation takes a long time to develop and it’s so worth it
It has been confirmed for 4th quarter 2024.
My understanding of shimmer is that there are different types. If you remember, Synged said that what he gave Viktor in episode 8 was a "variant". So far as i can tell, there are 4 main types of shimmer. The base type is the addictive type like was given to douche bag who betrayed Vi. The second kind augments physical attributes but does not cause excessive physical changes (i.e. the guys in the suits and Sevika), and the full blown army enhancement (Vander and the drones he set on Vi and Kaitlyn).
We all know Singed is making chemtech, which is... Green colored Goo for machinery and stuff.
So the overall theory is that Shimmer is the prototype for the Green chemicals that Chemtech uses.
@@TheMaxCloud and warwick will probably be used as the prototype of chemtech
it's kind of a stretch to say the "second kind" didn't change sevika and the suits, but definitely not as much as deckard. btw I think the steroid version of shimmer was what huck (the douchbag guy) got, because he talked about how he used it to be powerful and not be afraid anymore.
also there's one more implementation: healing when using it in small dosages. that's how vi gets healed after being stabbed, and how silco keeps his eye alive. and also the recreative smoke version which they use in the last drop.
I never hear anyone talk about how at the dinner at the end, Vi is saying things like “remember Milo! Remember Claggart!” thinking that these are positive things for Jinx, but they are actually evoking terrible memories. They were VI’s friends, but they were NOT nice to Powder. Vi thinks she’s helping but she’s actually pushing Jinx further and further towards breaking.
It's not about them not being nice (and only Milo bullied her, not Claggor). It's that she killed them. Vi is bringing up all the guilt she constantly feels but can't face up to.
@@ellencoleman4604Vi brings them up because she blames Silco for their deaths, but Jinx blames herself
Jayce's hammer is so clean i love how they animate it. You can really feel the weight of that bad boy.
An interesting part that almost nobody seems to catch which was shown in episode 3 is that Hextech allows for weird anti-gravitational properties. A great example of the contrast in practice is when Sevika severs the connections for the power of the crystal in Vi's glove. At that very moment the gauntlet is too heavy for Vi to handle and she collapses. Even when gets back up it still looks extremely heavy so she gets rid of it (zero effort on holding the other glove). The only reason you can even lift those gloves or use the hammer is that they are infused with the crystals which somewhat negates the usual gravitational pull on those huge masses. So with Jayce, not only is the hammer really heavy which doesn't affect Jayce cause the crystal makes it "light" which allows him to wield it effortlessly, but it also transmits the power of the crystal on contact (or trigger). So even though Jayce can visually wield it easily despite never training with it, the punch from it is so damn powerful, combining the weight and the extra punch.
So I'd say the weight isn't felt too much on the hammer due to the levitation power and how easily he uses it, but it does feel extremely powerful on contact (watch how he quickly gets of the train before the fight sequence).
Also, a small note those that think Vi got a random deus ex machina with that shield when fighting Sevika:
The gloves were not designed to be gauntlets but mining gloves. Imagine if you are in a mine and rocks collapse on you. Instinctively you will hold your hands above your head and that's the exact motion Vi does. This deploys a shield to protect the user from the avalanche. I think these kinds of details not only show how smart the writers (mainly incorporating it as a nod to an ability in the game - in this case Vi's Passive) are but it also further confirms the design intent of Jayce and Viktor and why they saw them as normal tools rather than weapons which is what Heimerdinger kind of foresaw. This was also partially implemented into the hammer, where you see the yellow forcefield.
God, I love this show :D
@@SiMeGamer fun fact: during the final scene when jinx carries the tablet with the cupcake, she actually wears both gauntlets and shakes out her right wrist because of the weight of the thing, which is a subtle nod to the power of shimmer.
I could see Mel or Cait's mom dying, but Jayce and Victor definitely aren't going to.
I hope Mel makes it, especially since most of us probably did her a bit dirty since she was such an ambiguous character, but I can see her dying to be important for the character development of some of the other characters. Alternatively, she might get heavily wounded, which could give an incentive to NOT destroy the hex core and attempt to use it to heal her...
I'm so hyped and I don't even know why. I watched the show more often than I can count. So excited to see your reaction.
You'll see that Vi has a deep seeded need for vengeance without worrying about the consequences. In episode 1 it was vengeance against the enforcers and "topside", then later it became vengeance against Silco.
And that vengeance blinds her to reality. She betrays her own sister to the council just to strike a blow against Silco. She'd rather get Jinx arrested and possibly even executed by the Topsiders than see her free and happy with Silco. Vi wants Powder back and if she can't have her she'll throw a fit and burn everything down.
@jenk4545 tbf I can see why she wants Powder back. Jinx is a creation of Silco, and she isn't actually happy. She's ill, unmedicated, and so scared and stressed.
Silco loves her, but he isn't actually a good parent to her. Just saying she's perfect isn't useful in the face of schizophrenia. He thinks that, like himself, giving her power will empower her. But really, she doesn't need guns, she needs affection and mental health support.
@lettylunasical4766 Yes, agreed Jinx isn't healthy, but Vi is no better for her than Silco is. Vi wants her to be someone she's not. Vi has spent years in prison obsessing over Powder, and she expected her to be the same little girl when she got out. She can't accept Jinx for who she is, and she can't accept that, for all his flaws Silco *has* been good to her. Vi constantly insisting to Jinx that Silco is the bad guy and if Jinx just leaves him and comes back to Vi they can be happy playing house together is short sighted and honestly deluded.
@@jenk4545 Perhaps Vi and Silca are the same, but overall I think Vi has the better moral argument. I think Jinx is someone who *does* need to change, for her own sake and for everyone else's. Maybe I just read the Jinx persona differently to other fans, but I don't think it's just a case of she grew up and her sister thinks she should still act like a 9 year old.
Even Jinx giving herself the name 'jinx' is a sign of her low self esteem; she acts violently and irrationally, even killing those she loves by accident; she is mentally ill and scared. She doesn't like being 'Jinx', she is this person because she feels like it's what she deserves and/or because it's what Silco likes. I don't really see Jinx as someone different to Powder; she is Powder but unmedicated and scared. So I read it as by wanting 'Powder back' Vi wants her sister healthy again.
I really like Silco and think he's a great character, but I think his charisma sometimes blinds people to the fact that he really is a bad parent to Jinx in many ways and Vi has a good point in wanting Powder aka, the actual person but healthy, back.
@@lettylunasical4766 Powder was not healthy pre-Jinx though, not even close, healthier perhaps but not healthy. She already had hallucinations, they simply got worse after Vi "left". She had insecure attachment and extreme codependency with anyone who`d validate her emotional needs . She already displayed lowered empathy and dissonant serenity in the face of fire, chaos and destruction at the beginning of the series.
The great part of this show for me was, even though i knew were Jinx would end up, they made it feel like there was this tiny chance, that she still would turn around. Although in the end she blasted her Ultimate across the whole map as it should be XD (yes that rocket is Jinx' ultimate attack in League which goes flying across the whole map until it either hits someone unfortunate enough standing in the way or just go flying off the map)
In fact it is not really a cliffhanger, since this season was all about how Powder became Jinx and this final scene concluded her change into Jinx. Btw her machine gun (at least ingame) is called Pow Pow, the same name which Vi called her in Episode 6 and her rocketlauncher is called fishbones, ingame she likes to talk with fishbones and also answers for him in a deeper voice^^
Also you're one of the few who realized that the whole peace agreement was out the window the monent Silco died :D the way I see it...there was never a chance for real peace at this time, the council has done too little too late, it was inevitable that this war would break out imo
Even if Silco didn't die, peace would not happen with "give us Jinx" as ultimatum.
@@MegaMilenche that is also true
It makes sense for Jayce to be jacked when u realise that hes familys main trade have been Engineers/blacksmiths and i think he even said something like how hes family made the tools that was then used to build the city during hes progress day speech. He also worked that forge like a pro so he clearly knows what hes doing around a forge.
There is a short 30 sec teaser for Season 2 but its nothing more then a few voices of the main trio. Apparently episode 3 is supposedly done but season 2 is likly not gonna release untill late 2024 or sometime in 2025.
Jinx rocket launcher may not be single use but its definatly not a rapid fire. Given how the rocket looked after she fired with the tubing and everything i cant imagen that would be easy for her to mass produce so shes for sure not gonna be able to use that anytime she wants. Also i think u guys got the wrong ide of the gemstones, The gemstones themselfs only acts as a powersource and unlike Jinx rocket launcher Vi´s gauntlets dosent need ammo so she can keep punching away as mutch as she likes with very little power drain. The shield would for sure drain more power but the gems are loaded so its not like just a few shield uses would totally drain it. The gemstone Jinx has could power that gun all she wants but unless she has a rocket in it it wouldent do mutch good.
The rocket is chemtech. Just like her guns and bombs. So it wouldn't be that hard for her to make more. You are correct when you say that Sharkbones is only powered by the Hextech gemstone.
I also love how Jinx's whole story comes full circle. She wanted to help when she was younger, and her influence caused a likely success to turn into abysmal failure. Now, Jayce was willing to barter for peace; he'd even gotten the council to agree to it. He could have haggled to avoid turning over Jinx, or handed over a proxy instead, but Jinx didn't give him that chance. And just when the Undercity was about to achieve it's place as the Nation of Zaun, Jinx used her inventions to "help" but ended up only destroying any chance at peace.
As mentioned, Jayce grew up in a blacksmith family. He's probably done his share there. And I suspect he's been into some kind of sport growing up, perhaps at the academy. We've seen Caitlyn do that earlier (running in the woods at a shooting contest), and she's pretty fit as well. Probably a thing in the wealthy families in Piltover.
"it"s going to the moon" famous last words 😂
Silco didnt lie.
Marcus told him Vi was dead.
He found out just a couple of days ago.
Thats what that whole scene with Silco threatening Marcus daughter was about.
At worst he "lied by omittion" no telling Jinx when he found out.
But he really didnt know the truth "all this time".
This is Jinx being confused and paranoid...
Which is what THIS whole scene is about.
She doesnt know what real or in her head, whats true or false.
This dinner table scene is a desperate attempt to figure it out.
The end scene with Vi telling Jinx to remember Milo, Clagger, Vander, Mom, etc was hurting Jinx more than it was encouraging or helping her. Silco was shouting in his chair telling Vi to stop because he saw how much Vi was accidentally hurting her. Ugh what a perfect show.
I think my favorite thing about this show is how everyone has “good intentions”. There is no villain who is evil for the sake of being evil. They are all trying to do something good, they all have ideas and dreams of making the world better, either for their families, for their people or for the less fortunate ones; but different approaches on how to achieve it and unique flaws that get in the way. It’s fantastic to see how many people in so many different positions have a similar goal but are in each other’s way at the same time.
except heimer, who is just sleeping on the job when on the council :D
The bridge scene in episode 7 is such a masterpiece. So many parallels. It is the same bridge and the same song from episode 1. There is so many theories about Jinx and Ekko fight. My favourite one is that is depicts how Ekko was able to move from his trauma and Jinx is still being consumed by it. It is a recreation of their childood game in which Jinx was always winning. This comparison seems pretty good in my opinion.
Finallyy after 2weeks of patiently waiting! I finally get to see You guys finishing the series!! Oh boy Im also thrilled for season2!!
i recently thought of the last scene of the series. i think that jinx's little tea party in the end was not just a cool visual feature but also a metaphor for the boston tea party. both tea parties will eventually trigger a civil war.
Also I think grayson, vander, benzo, and silco all were friends at some point. Because silco talked to benzo like he knew him in episode 3. And grayson and vander acted like they new each other. And grayson is more friendly to the under city than the rest of the enforcers. So I think that she was probably from the under city. And anytime we've scene a person living in pilot over who orginally lived in the under city, they would have to have made a contribution to pilot over, like victor with his work.
Grayson isn't from the Undercity, it's just that she's empathetic to their situation and can see that both sides are flawed. She was around for the revolution the first time around. She's measured enough to realize that cooperation with Vander is smarter than all-out warfare and that there's a reasonable amount of peace that can still be brokered, but loyal in that she draws a line in the sand that the Undercity's actions can't continue to disturb Piltover's citizens. The rules and regulations for being allowed to work in Piltover as a born citizen of the Undercity are very stringent--the people authorized to do so are exceptional, not ordinary. It's a way of showing the audience that while there are fewer opportunities afforded to the Undercity, both sides have some give-and-take. Only the exceptional prosper, not the ordinary. It still paints Piltover as oppressive and unfair, while not being totalitarian or draconic.
We know Vander, Benzo and Silco were all aligned at one point--that's the entire point of their backstory and why the failed revolution on the bridge changed everyone's dynamics.
The ending is perfect because the arc of the season isn’t the politics, but “how does someone innocent turn to evil?” We don’t have to see the result to know she’s crossed the point of no return.
Right. This was Jinx’s villain origin story, and her arc was completed the moment she sat in that chair and chose Jinx over Powder. So it’s technically not a cliffhanger
Right. This was Jinx’s villain origin story, and her arc was completed the moment she sat in that chair and chose Jinx over Powder. So it’s technically not a cliffhanger
When I watched Arcane for the first time - the amount of anxiety I had when Jinx brought out that silver platter was CRAZY high. Even though I KNEW that it wasn't going to be her head, I just got so worked up over that whole scene ahahaha! Also yeah I was screaming at the end going "No!! No!! There's no way THAT'S just the END!?!!" I'm so glad you guys watched this!!
Here's something that might be of significance: If you replay the moment where the grenade went off (the one that Jinx set off to off herself and Ekko), you would hear a "clunk" right before the explosion. Many have theorized that the noise was Ekko knocking away the grenade at the last possible moment, saving himself and, most likely, Jinx as well.
Masterpiece can't wait for season 2
There is an underrated quote from Viktor, he says "In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good.", this is og from this series, it wasn't quoting any philosopher and to me at least is really the most impactful quote from the series.
I did not focus on Mel's mother so much but once you mentioned revenge I imagined a possibility for season 2. she is from Noxius, which from the lore is a very warlike, miltiary state, and if she blames the death of mel (IF she dies) on Piltover as a whole instead of the undercity, Noxious can invade and steal the hextech. Interesting insight from you guys as always.
just for your information: There would be no peace either way, Silco was completely serious when he said he never would have handed over Jinx, even if it meant war
If you enjoy the animation, Riot also released a ton of cinematics that are 3-5 minutes each, many of which are in different types of animation styles. You could definitely do a video reacting to compilation of those videos (just search League of Legends cinematics). There are some amazing characters from all over, including the area of Noxus where Mel and her mom are from. As a long time League player who loves the game and the world (yes there are people who are toxic but you just mute them), there is just so much to explore
When Viktor was young, they showed how he couldn't keep up with the boat... Then while he was running after trying the shimmer-hexcore combo, he ran past the boat in the background...
In the scene with Jinx's outburst in the final episode, It was actually Vi telling Jinx to picture Milo and Clanger, which in Jinx's head are demons who cause her more doubt and harm, whereas Silco was telling her not to listen to it, Vi even told Jinx to picture their parents which she would have known would be traumatic to Jinx...I don't think Silco was actually a badguy in the last episode, I think that he was a father going through a personal choice, power or his daughter and in the end he CHOSE Jinx.
I agree. It was unfortunately Vi's fault. Silco was trying to stop Vi from causing Jinx more harm, that's why I believe he picked up the gun, not with the intent to kill her, but to stop her from talking. That's why when you look at where he shot Vi, the bullet went through the side of the chair, not where her head would have been.
yeh and ppl seem to think it was her choice to kill silco to protect vi, when jinx has a history of panic firing, which is even dialed up by the shimmer and triggered by the sound of the pistol while she has her breakdown
I agree with you to a point. Silco was still being a bad guy at the end, but it was because of his and Jynx’s fear of abandonment. He really does love and care for her, but he can’t help but use that fear of abandonment in an attempt to manipulate her into siding with him, whether he realizes he’s doing it or not. People don’t always consciously manipulate others that they care about, in a twisted/toxic kind of way they believe they’re doing what’s best for the person. He may just think he’s trying to protect her, but it is a form of manipulation by using her trauma like that and telling her that Vi will abandon her again and that he and Jynx can only count on each other.
@@CrippledMerc that's a lot of speculation on your part, buddy.
lets summarize, silco find jinx abandoned, takes her in, plans to overthrow piltover, and right when he's close to victory vi suddenly reappears teamed up with an enforcer.
so from his perspective vi might be the manipulative one, who weakens jinx, which is deadly in a world like theirs.
@@danii7584 Exactly my point. Silco was betrayed and abandoned by Vander who he considered a brother, after that he could only count on himself until Jynx came along. Jynx lost everyone, her parents, her childhood friends, her adoptive father, and her sister. You don’t see it as outwardly with Silco as you do with Jynx, although he does speak on it a couple times. We see it with Jynx especially when Vi and the other kids leave her to go save Vander and she has absolute mental breakdown, and again when Vi leaves her after Vander dies just before Silco finds her.
Regardless of whether he thinks Vi is manipulating Jynx at the end, he still uses manipulation as well even if it does come from a place of genuine love and care for Jynx. I’m sure he believes he’s just looking out for what he thinks is best for Jynx, but it doesn’t change the fact that he uses that fear of abandonment to try to persuade her.
Personally, even if Jynx had decided to leave with Vi I don’t think they would’ve stayed together anyways, meaning Silco was kinda right in that regard. Jynx and Vi had both changed too much. Sure, it’s possible that they could’ve worked it out, but I don’t think it would be likely.
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I love all the different movie comparisons you all had for every different thing that happened 😆
Jayce is ripped because he worked his whole life in the hammer business.
I hope someone's let Oak know that modern animation uses virtual cameras, so the cinematography literally is camera moves. =P
Every little detail in this show is perfect, one I didn't even notice until this reaction was Silco looking in the reflection of his glass at Sevika when she was walking behind him in the office scene. Viktor was my favorite character from the game, and the changes for the show are just brilliant. I can't wait to see what happens to him and if the core takes him over or forces him to be conscious of the decisions he is forced to make. I can just already tell his "Champion" moment is going to make me sad while also making me proud to have played him so much and making him my main character way before he was even really popular in the game.
Speaking of the game it can be fun, it's a lot to learn with almost 200 characters, but the biggest downside is the fans are toxic to the game devs and themselves and the most common mode locks you into a game for 15-45 mins with these people lol. The best experience is probably just having a whole friend group to play with.
in the game there is an item called zhonya's hourglass, this item can turn u "golden" like mels armour at the end and render you invincible for a short duration. kind of incases you in some sort of stasis separating you from the physical world.
Some people say that its an iron solari shield but who knows im excited for season 2
Yeah Mel likely has magic armor, and Jayce can’t die because he’s a character in the game. Caitlin’s mom on the other hand…
Thanks for your reaction ❤ I loved this series… I believe it is one of the best written plots I witnessed in 5 or more years. Glad you guys enjoyed it too 👍🏻
This season's cliffhanger was just dirty 😅😅😅
Cannot wait for season 2! ❤
That little killed that Jayce kills was one of the chem barons sons. He was being trained to be a supervisor of the slaves.
The scene when Viktor drops the cane and start running is just so well done. Think back about Viktor's backstory scene when he dropped his mechanical boat in the river and failed to run along it. Now he's outrunning real boats!
Also, Vi putting on the Hextech gauntlets and Jayce's Hextech powered Hammer/crossbow was one thing the league of legends players/fan knew about since the character were introduced! They had us wait until episode 8 out of 9 for it!
Incredible show. I started off disliking Silco but when it came to the end, I felt sorry for him and enjoyed his character.
I never saw this ending as a cliff hanger. the story was always focused around the characters of Vi and Jinx and that relationship change was full developed and that story ended. So the ending was perfect, pointing to the choices that were made by Vi and Jinx. Particularly Jinx. Who lived and who died from that choice doesn't matter in relation to what the heart of the series is. Jinx made a choice and that choice means inevitable war. The End.
would be highly hilarious if they started the new season somewhere else in runeterra. but they won't do it.
my bet: everybody except ingame characters die from the explosion. viktor will be shunned after his part in sky's death comes out, or the aftermath of the explosion forces some glorious evolution... which is foreshadowed/easteregged by the cards sevika drops when she is attacked by vi. jayce will be held responsible by ambessa for the death of mel, since ambessa warned him not to let the problems of his city get worse and we were directly told she'd turn the world ablaze for her family which she now all lost. viktor or singed might join noxus in that war.
no idea how they could fill warwick into that. also I'd love to see urgot at some point, maybe opposing cait/vi.
@@danii7584 Mel is gonna live. Heavily hinted by the last few frames, and it would be a bit of a waste of her character otherwise. The other non game chars will probably all die though, or at least most of them.
@@rylace it's possible, but a shimmering armor means little.
my money is on mel being killed because it makes more sense with the story.
- ambessa strongly hinted that family is everything to her, that she would burn the world for them, and that mel's brother is dead
- ambessa also warned jayce to not let the problems of the undercity fester, which kinda happened. a wound that festers gets infected and leads to death.
- during peace talks silco points out that they should focus on the threads outside the walls, which would refer to noxus/ambessa
- lorewise, singed is bound to end up in noxus. also I'd bet that victor might end up there in opposition to jayce after being shunned for killing sky. jayce and singed might leave together.
so war between noxus and piltover makes lots of sense.
but yeh, it's always possible they go a different way.
@@danii7584 the show took the time to highlight her shimmering armor for several seconds even though she was wearing clothing over it. it'd be strange if they focused on something that was ordinarily impossible to see if it meant little in the grand scheme of things.
@@oakeii might be, might not be. they also took a long time with ambessa telling us all that she lost her son, that she wants mel returning home into the fol, that she'd burn the world down for the family, and that jayce should get the problems of the undercity under control or risk getting slaughtered :)
If you pay attention you get to see all the details shown like -
1. Jayce mentioned the Talis business was into hammer building
2. The firelight bombs were on Jinx's desl
3. Right before the suicide blast by jinx you'll hear a "BONK" which was Ekko hitting the grenade away with his bat to reduce the impact.
4. The batlike firelight before Ekko's reveal was shown as a visitor in Piltover in episode 4.
5. The pretty boy for Mel's mom was shown in the brothel when Vi visited it.
6. Vi's gloves were made for mining so it made sense for it to have an auto-sensored shield.
7. Skye died because Viktor did the transformation without shimmer so the hexcore took her instead.
8. The weapon Jinx has been making under Silco's order with the hexgem also was made by Jinx to look like Silco. Her last act as powder was killing Silco and her first act as Jinx was firing her weapon.
see here's the thing though - *silco didn't lie to her*. he genuinely thought that vi was dead because marcus had lied to him, hence his initial shocked "from the dead?!" response in episode 4 when sevika informs him that she has returned. my guy was DISTRAUGHT, and even more so when he failed to kill vi.
While the game of League of Legends sure isn't for everyone, their cinematics exploring the lore and world further sure are magnificent and definitely worth a watch ;)
If you listen carefully when the bomb went off. You can here a metal bang before the blast. Seems like echo kicked it before it exploded. Also, silco was trying to protect jinx from vi in the end. Vi kept naming everyone and jinx was going crazy.
Silco is one of the best written anti-villains in modern entertainment, he wants the undercity to thrive and the only way to do it is to fight as dirty as possible. He doesn't just murder indiscriminately, it always has a purpose, and always to further his goal which in the end, is a noble one. They live in the sewage of a incredibly rich city who with their power and knowledge to help, and yet refuses. He did love Jinx, he manipulated her, but he also spoke truth. They did abandon jinx, and he didn't. He went through the same thing she did, and often people forget that if we saw silcos entire backstory with vander, and how he was betrayed, we would probably have the same compassion for him as for Jinx. Because we were shaped by what powder was.
What do you think about Dave saying Silco used kids as workers on purpose, in case of raid? I never saw it that way.
@@MegaMilenche It's left to interpretation tbh.
@@MegaMilenche I think it was intentional that one of the upper leader's kid was working there, but I don't think the rest are intentional, but just exploiting whatever labour he can (though it's up for interpretation as the other commentor says).
@@unknowndane4754 That's probably the best work kids can find in down there.
It is forsure on purpose, it is a smart move because he knows that they won't go hard if there could be massive collateral, he doesn't do it for fun.
That's why she's called jinx, just like how she jinxed Vander's escape and killed her whole crew, when the peace talk Is about to reach a conclusion she f- it all up again.
S2 might be a while, but not as long as S1, which I believe was in production for something like 6 years. There are some cool behind the scenes of production.
I know you guys have been wary of how animation may do on the channel, but after ATLA and this, I think you’re ready to jump into Attack on Titan. Plenty of political intrigue and mystery to keep you hooked. And it does well on YT haha.
Hell yeah, AOT is my all time favorite show, it would be amazing content to watch Badd Medicine react to it!! LETS GOOO
Mel isn't dead, throughout the season there are hints alluding to the fact that she has arcane power herself. My bet is that she either shields herself, or her and Jayce, or the entire council with some sort of forcefield, but reveals her arcane abilities so gets shunned.
She does? I've heard people talk about her armour shining gold somehow meaning she's shielded, but I don't know where else it alludes to her having any magick
No League of Legends is not a garbage game, but except from the characters and the basic lore it has nothing to do with the show. League of Legends basically is a 5 vs. 5 online game. It is no open world game and no rpg. You fight in an arena and the goal is to destroy the enemy teams „Nexus“ so to speak, their base. You can choose between over 160 different Champions to play and we only saw Jinx, Vi, Caitlyn, Singed, Jace, Viktor, Ekko and Heimerdinger in the show. All the other characters are not from the Game, they were created for the show.
Almost every gamer has heard of League of Legends. It was released in 2009 and it still has millions of players. The game is a lot of fun, but the community is very….toxic sometimes. But regardless of that, it is a great game.
Yesss alpha mama is such a cool character. That was a great observation. It’s rare to see older women as main characters none the less a complete, muscled out, alpha boss. She’s epic
Wait i just realized something. In the show vi says powders good with her gadgets which are technology. And vi gift is fighting which is her physical strength. Vi is pink and jinx is blue. When vi gets hextech golves which are technology jinx gets shemer which inhances you're physical skills. Hextech is blue shemer is pink. A little bit of powder exist in vi and little bit of vi exists in power. Like yin and yang. Also vi wearing the hextech can remind vi how powder used to be and shemer can mean powder finally became strong like her hero.😊
i love Arcane, i watched it so often like 20 tiems already no cap.
And you can always find new things to discover.
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For example in the scene, where jinx saw caitlyn portayed as the devil.
Vi was scratched out, in the point of jinx view.
which emans jinx was comepeltely tunnel visioned on caitlyn as a thread, which is also why she shoot in Vis direction.
She just didnt realised Vi is right next to her
this scene is blured here on the reaction tho.but you can see it in the full scene usally.
Or at 19:50
if you listen closely, you can hear the sound of ekko hitting the grenady away.
Just before it explodes, but you only hear it if you know its coming, because its so suddle.
"Bridging the Rift" is a 5-episode series on UA-cam about the making of Arcane season 1.
It's incredible. I highly recommend watching it, even if you don't make a Reaction video for it and watch it on your own time.