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Nissan X-Trail Ti E-Power Long-Term: The Good And Bad after 5 Months Of Testing
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
- After five months and around 10,000km of driving, Chasing Cars’ Production Specialist Tom Place says goodbye to the Nissan X-Trail Ti E-Power long termer.
Powered by Nissan’s novel E-Power petrol-electric hybrid system, the high-spec Ti grade is priced from $54,690, or around $59K driveaway. It competes with other hybrid offerings such as the Toyota RAV4, Hyundai Tucson, Kia Sorento and Honda CR-V in the mainstream midsize SUV segment.
So what are the X-Trail E-Power’s positives and negatives? And were there any big surprises along the Place family’s half-year custodianship?
Importantly, would we recommend you shortlist the Nissan option when shopping for petrol-electric family-hauling goodness? Keep watching to find out.
Time codes:
0:00 - Intro
0:24 - Ti E-Power
0:58 - Fuel economy
3:12 - X-Trail lineup
3:28 - Interior
4:50 - Row two
5:28 - Durability
8:06 - Safety
8:40 - Boot space
10:35 - No spare wheel
12:17 - Soft-road capability
14:56 - Rolling stock
15:53 - On road
16:12 - E-Power(train)
17:25 - Ride and handling
18:15 - Throttle ‘pulsing’ issue
19:18 - Verdict
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I’ve just hit 12 months and reached 10,000km in my Ti-L e power in the last week and 70% city/urban 30% highways at mainly 100km/h and overall fuel economy is 6.61l/100.
Did a 2,500 round trip from Syd to Melb and that drive with passengers and full boot returned 6.57l/100km
Comparing it to the RAV4, you need to factor in its a heavier car with more premium features so if it’s within 1l/100km, I consider that acceptable for a nicer EV like drive experience.
Suburban driving is where this car excels as I regularly see high 4’s to low 5’s on specifc routes.
For its price, it see it a good bang for buck when compared to the cost of similar sized SUVs.
And ultimately what you've said is very close to my conclusion. The X-Trail is quite refined and generally a really nice experience that stacks up favourably from both a subjective and objective perspective. I've touched on the fuel economy matter in another comment. - TP
Thanks for this comment. Gave me confidence in my decision to buy.
My brother's 12 months in his X Trail X E Force Ti has exceeded expectations.
He hired a RAV 4 Hybrid first. Test drove the E Force and was blown away with the finishes, inclusions, responsiveness and serenity. On the highway - leave in cruise control.
Love the heads up display which reads speed limit signs and gives navigation.
All round camera was great.
Like you, the lack of spare wheel was the only real negative in Australia.
I've owned my Ti E-power for nearly 12 months and can't fault it. The drive is exactly what I was looking for, coming from a CVT gearbox to an electric drivetrain has been brilliant, Can't fault the economy, It's not the best but it has kept me from visiting the servo as much as I has been previously. Very happy with my choice. Plus the added benefit of telling Toyota Rav 4 wait list customers that my car arrived in a matter of weeks is always a great feeling.
Driving the TiL version for a year, at 10k km now, 6.4l per 100km so far. So, much less than for the reviewer. Driving more around the city, I would say 60/40 to urban conditions and always in Eco mode. Mostly agree with the rest mentioned in the video. Cupholders are just holes, which makes them difficult to use tbh. Super comfortable car, no noise issues at high speeds were noticed. Overall, happy with my purchasing decision.
Hi, I liked your comments above.
I'm due to replace my Mini Clubman shortly and wanted to ask how the Nissan dealer / servicing experience is. I'm in the market for a smallish SUV hybrid so Toyota Corolla Cross + CHR, Nissan Qashqai + X-Trail (medium) are on my lists.
Also, before buying the X-Trail TI did you also test drive the Qashqai Ti e-power?
Excellent review. I was considering the e-power Qashqai but the X-Trail seems a lot more practical. Rav4 is also close to being replaced and your comments about the relative refinement compared to the e-power are very useful.
I have the Ti-L epower and I’ve averaged 6.5L/100km over 22000km. On the highway I get 5.5 per 100km, far better than what you quote so I don’t understand that significant difference. The musical steering wheel? Never noticed. I find the electric drive train to be so good I wouldn’t touch a petrol car again. Overall it’s a great car.
do you get that indicated on dash or measured at the pump?
i have put 20,000 kms on ours and have not seen any pulsing issue. It does hesitate if it sees pedestrians in the way though.
@@nyc863 Those measurements are at the pump. 95 Ron. I don’t believe the dashboard readout.
Ultimately, we stand by our numbers and can't attest to how you got to yours or the areas you drive etc. Like you, we take our readings from the pump and are careful to record them accurately. I will note that the Ti-L rides on larger 20-inch wheels though, and that can play a role.
You are right to not trust the dash readout, as I expanded upon in the written version of this review, it was generally 7 to 15 percent out of wack with reality.
@@chasingcars Fair enough. My highway drives are the M1 between Brisbane and the Gold Coast. 100 to 110km/hr, straight runs of 55km each way. No altitude differences. On these runs my dash reads 5L per 100km which is never right. Bowser calculates at 5.5. My dash reads 6.1L/100km for my overall 22000km. I calculate 6.5 from bowser records. Never ever have I recorded over 7 for a highway run.
I drive a plain Jane, ST T33 Xtrail. My average fuel consumption is 6.9, and that's 60% highway driving and 40% suburban driving.
I mostly use 91 RON.
I've owned the 4 wheel drive version for a year and have never experienced any loss of power going uphill, mine is effortless when climbing as it is everywhere. Power is not an issue with the X trail e power.
Picking up a Nissan X-Trail TI E-Power on Saturday, so excited and love your review 😁
I have one of those non Epower it’s so cool and I enjoying it.
The X-Trail is a great buy with the 2.5L petrol as well.
@@chasingcarsI will be going the TiL petrol version. I drove the Epower and it was a strange feeling to me.
Ours X-trail e-power had a engine and generator failure after 14000km. The car was only 10 months old..
How was the warranty service and turnaround time?
A really nice and comfortable driving car, great driving position and very roomy, I think it is surprisingly economical considering it weighs two tonnes, had it three months now and loving it.
I’ve been really wanting to look at this vehicle as an option to the car I’m planning on but there is a lack of PHEV vehicles.
I’ve kinda been guided into its cousin the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV.
Thank you for your input and feedback about this as a longer term review.
I’ve had my Ti e-power for nearly a year now and very happy with it. If I had to replace it tomorrow I’d buy exactly the same car.
I must agree though, the luggage cover is a silly design. It lives in my garage too.
I test drove the car with the Bose sound system and it also sounded totally flat. SUV looks great though.
What's the difference in economy when using 91 vs 95? Also If this was meant to be a green planet saver shouldn't it be optimised for E10?
Is it normal when driving aside to auto mode the car applies brakes when foot is lifted from accelerator?
I've been admiring the Nissan Qashquai TI e-power and its X-trail TI e-power equivalent. Booth seem similarly priced at first glace? Is there any reason to by the high-spec qashquai over the T-trail?
We've driven both and I do believe the Qashqai E-Power is slightly more refined and, being a small SUV, it will be a bit easier to drive in tight city streets etc, but as I noted in my conclusion of that review, the X-Trail Ti E-Power is more versatile and the better buy for the price in my opinion - TP.
@@chasingcarsthe Qashqai and Xtrail are remarkably closer in size than most people realise. It's really the boot and overall height where the differences lie.
Qashqai isn't really a small SUV - it seems to straddle that gap between small and medium.
@@alfstewart22 I've started seeing UA-cam videos of the updated Qashquai and it looks awesome..
Owner of a Ti-L X-Trail here and agree with you regarding the highway fuel consumption! I saw 7.4L/100km on a Melbourne to Sydney road trip, measured at the pump. This was with cruise control set to 117km/h, which is 110km/h according to the GPS.
Agree that its a fantastic family car and has been doing the job well with my family of four. Haven't seen the throttle pulsing issue you mentioned as i usually have the cruise control active on the freeways. My only complaints are the camera quality at night time, and the headlight brightness, especially the high beam.
Ive owned my E-Power Ti-L for 9 months and have done 70,000km and average between 5.2 to 5.6ltr so not sure why your average is high.
What's your mix of urban and highway? Damn that's a lot of kms in 9 months!!!
Just picked up my wife's new E power X-Trail has anyone had issues without a spare tyre? we live in a rural area
I would go for the non hybrid, just Naturally Aspirated, I know the engine will run forever, I dont drive a lot so hybrid wont save me money.
Cuz of that i bought ti-l petrol. I drive with 7-7.5lt per 100km. Dont need hybrid at all.
How you got coulered heating buttons ? The climent thing is bright mine is just white
Misrepresented the power train. The dealer was very clear and so has media on launch that Nissan was chasing driving experience, not economy, as the priority. Hybrid should not stand for anything more than the type of engine, not what seems to be implied here is that it should be efficient. It’s an electric car that you throw fuel in. That has a place.
Nissan is saying the engine/generator is 50% efficient. The conversion from mechanical to electrical energy typically is 90% in an optimized system. No surprise people are shocked at the bad fuel economy, when they were expecting much better.
@@jimj2683It produces 525 Nm of torque, 40 mpg is acceptable to me to have that much power, the Mustang 5 litre V8 produces 515 Nm, what's the fuel consumption like with that engine?
My Toyota RAV4 Hybrid consistently gives me 5.3
That is exactly what I'm getting with my hybrid Cruiser AWD.
It would be interesting to see testing outcomes with 98RON fuel, to see if there is a similar highway range improvement like the regular petrol variants. I have experienced as much as 150lkm range improvement on highway only driving between 95RON and 98RON in a Nissan 3.5L V6 VQ series petrol Murano
There'd likely be no improvement. The ICE is purely a generator to recharge the battery. It's not subject to anywhere near the same loads it would be if it were driving the wheels, which makes me believe higher octane is wasting your time and money.
The 3 cylinder engine is HORRIBLY loud and coarse during city driving when it starts up to charge the battery. Many E-Force owners have complained about this, saying it sounds like a tractor. In contrast, the Honda CR-V/Accord hybrid engine (very similar power train design) is far quieter. The loud noise is a deal breaker for many. There are many, many good things about this car, but it needs far more sound dampening or perhaps a better 4 cylinder engine to charge the battery like the Hondas.
Yeah, I bought CRV for that reason. Its 4 cylinder granted no turbo but its far more quiet. Its a strange way Nissan did.
The Qwashqai returns.
You know it’s a “quality review” when the reviewer says gems like “I came to appreciate the extra shelf below the centre console”🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ who the fuck cares about shit like that?
The VCT engine in the US market Xtrail (rogue) is having all sorts of reliability issues. This is the same engine family used in this epower.
The engine in the rogue in the US works as a normal engine and directly powers the car. It's quite a heavy car to haul around with just a 1.5 litre turbo petrol and therefore under a lot more stress than when it's just used as a generator to charge the battery. The other point is it's built in the US, the X trail as its known everywhere else is built in Japan. The twin electric motor version and the one where the engine directly powers the car are world's apart. It's not even fair to compare the two.
@@gerrybailey447 I think you will find it's the same VCT engine
UK owners reporting X-Trail and Qasqhai E-power generator failure.
How are you an auto journalist and you're saying QUASH-KAI?
hybrid ravs are starting to be available and the only reason u can get an e-power xtrail or qashqai is cause they aint selling all that well unlike the rav4
Well that’s great that RAV4s are starting to ramp up delivery, otherwise Ubers will be hard to find😉
This has got nothing to do with the RAV4 hybrid mate. It’s just another type of powertrain. This is an EV, just has a generator, it can’t be super efficient
Nissan advertises efficiency as a key advantage of E-Power and it would be remiss of us not to compare it against the segment leader at a time when cheap running costs are so crucially important to Australians.
The Nissan has other advantages over the Toyota, as we’ve pointed out - TP
Nissan have a decent product. But why does service intervals have to be so frequent (10k or 12 months) and costly (close to $500 a pop)?
Deal breaker.
Listen to mechanics and they will tell you that going longer than 12 months/10,000kms for servicing will kill your engine within 10 years. Not a problem for the original owner under warranty, but a real concern for anyone wanting to buy second hand, or just keep their car long term. Engine oil isn't that much better now than it used to be, it still needs changing. But if your car dies after 10 years then you HAVE to buy a new one so they get more sales.
@@Mububban23 owned Toyotas for years and have kept it maintained as per service intervals and have NEVER had any issues. Can only comment on my experience.
@@Mububban23 you are listening to the wrong mechanics, plus mechanics are not oil experts, I change my oil every 12 months or more, My cars are old and not that special, but still 13 years later, they still drive like new. My engines didn't fail in 10 years 😂
Just drain the oil and pour in new oil, it's not rocket science, no need to consult mechanics.
Owner here... in Colombia the revisions are every 5,000 kilometers and free up to 30.000 km and they gave you a spare tire‼️
Always the poor-mans Rav-4. Shame about the below average fuel economy, but 7.4 is still pretty decent at 13.5 kms/litre..... however a 30 y/o Corolla can manage 15 kms/Litre. Time will tell as to how these depreciate and hold up with the mechannics. The pulsing would annoy me and l don't mind a bit of engine growl so l would still get the Rav 4 over this.
toyota rave gives u a skinny tyre better than nothing like the xtrail and qashqai
Owner here... in Colombia the revisions are every 5,000 kilometers and free up to 30 thousand and they gave you a spare tire
I can never understand why anybody would choose this car over a RAV4 hybrid. I mean, Toyota practically invented, if not, perfected the hybrid system.
CVT is a deal breaker for me, I hate them, plus the top of the range Nissan is so much nicer, nappa leather is lovely along with all the soft touch materials, much better interior, the Nissan is very comfortable and relaxing to drive and have had lots of compliments from passengers.
@@gerrybailey447 This nissan uses CVT while toyota rav4 hybrid has E-CVT. The E-CVT is all mechanical and bulletproof.
@@p1mm3 The Nissan x trail e power has no gearbox whatsoever, the engine only works as a generator to charge the battery. The engine has no direct drive to the wheels, it has an electric motor on both axles powered by the battery or when the battery is too low and needs a recharge the engine generates electric power which goes to an inverter which in turn poweres the electric motors, it only has a forward and reverse shifter like a full ev, as it's essentially a self charging ev. It's just instead of plugging it into a charger you put petrol in a normal fuel tank to run the generator. I don't think the e power is available in the US so they have to do with a normal petrol driven version with yes, an awful CVT box. If it had the CVT it wouldn't be sitting on my drive.
@@gerrybailey447 Sorry Pal but your x-trail has a CVT gearbox regardless of e-power or not. This is why i avoid nissan and subaru at all costs.
@@p1mm3 There is no direct drive from the engine to the wheels, it is an ev with it own generator. It has no need for a gearbox CVT or otherwise, electric motors don't use gears. I'll give you the car if you can point out where the gearbox is, any gearbox! 😆
He kinda cute, ngl.
A Hybrid Rav4 would be constantly 5.8L/100 which works out better
Some proof please.
@@MrMathmo having one as a rental car for a month doing 3000kms highway and city is all the proof son
@@MrMathmo RAV4 hybrid fuel efficiency is undeniable. But the wait times are a deal breaker for many
I understand. The Rav4 FB groups started to report higher numbers. Hence asked. This car however have the ability to get even down to 5.3l/100 if you want to, by choosing the most effective drive settings. But this car is not intended for that. 2 tonne giving 5.3 - 6.8l/100 is definitely impressive.
@@MrMathmo yeahs for sure I always run 98 fuel and then drive in eco mode and find it super good. My hybrid Camry is 4.5 most of the time
6:54 OMG, did he just say "Quash-kye" with a straight face, like he has no idea how to pronounce it?
Not a genuine review about fuel economy.. the way he sau ADULT is very funny he said Adaolt
There were several photos of the car parked across double white lines on the road. This is not a good look. Just saying
Thanks for your concern but this was shot at our private track where Australian road rules do not apply.
If only it wasn’t plain with no soul like most Nissans since the year 2000.
Cars don't have souls, stop watching Pixar cartoons
@@josh3221ify you don’t understand josh so push off
@@josh3221ify lol
This would be decent if you guys actually didn’t drive like motoring journalists. I can get very close to the fuel economy on most cars because I drive very sensibly. It isn’t that hard to get close to the fuel economy.
Wear & tear it’s got 17,000ks any sort of wear on such low Ks is not acceptable. I have an Audi Q3 with 145,000ks that has less wear than your x trail. Very poor in my opinion.
"Qwashkai"😅
No problem there, he pronounced as in quality (Qwality) 😃.
So the Toyota RAV4 Hybrid is less expensive, lighter, more efficient, lower manufacturing footprint and quicker… and Toyota reliability and resale.
The X-Trails interior does look much nicer than the RAV4 though.
That and the wait times for RAV4 might be a deal breaker if you aren't able to wait a really long time to replace your current vehicle
Quicker? In what way.
The Nissan is much quicker but I'm glad your enjoying your RAV4.
@@JamieFisher-t7s Enjoy your Nissan CVT gearbox whilst it still works xD RAV4 has the bulletproof E-CVT
@@p1mm3 It has no gearbox, so no CVT.
Oh another throw away EV ready for landfill in 10 years, how green it is 😂😂😂
The only problem is that cvt
This is 1 speed gear box
What do you mean? Epower isn't using CVT system. It is a 1 speed reduction gear.
Lol!! You're just parroting the internet opinions from about 10 years ago, get over it, the CVT is fine. This model has no CVT.
Get with the programme!
Most peoples driving is urban, so cvt is just fine.