I’ve had a 2023 Camry Hybrid for just over 12 months now and I can confirm that it is the cheapest car to run by far. I average 4.6lt per 100kms and get 900km range from a 50 litre tank. It’s brilliant.
Definitely a fan boy and goes with the crowd 😂. He doesn't even know the toyota engines die just like the hyundai engines. LoL only good hyundai engine is 1.6L and all v6s are fine.
@@rohitnijhawan5281 tik tok is why i hate korean cars covid is why i have japanese hybrids japan having better prices than USA cars is why i hate ford TL;DR bah humbug. i love my car but im soooo glad i got it before the fiasco of car prices after 2019. used cars cost as much as new cars new cars have a 2000 higher cost than msrp due to supply issues people get their "new" car in the next year. its just insane, i feel like a boomer owning a house while the milenials are homeless, (yet its car ownership to carless folks) its just horrendous how prices have gotten out of hand. i get it when Luxury vehicles cost as much as a fixer upper home, 85k and up. but 50k for a feature loaded vehicle is a big ask. and while i dont mean to insult anyones income, 700 ish dollars a month for a depreciating asset begs the question... will the vehicle help you make more money or only cost you more money? at least with hybrids, they can easily answer with reduced fueling costs, but are creature comforts truly worth that much? idk, and i honestly cant explain car prices at all. since rarity means cars can literally cost 100s of thousands of dollars (just to collect dust and show off) and others cost less than 1000 yet are only useful for parts. to each his own, but at the very least can the middle of the line consumer not pay for a car that costs the same as a fixer upper home.
For many consumers, they are not quite ready for EV's because of expense, charging infrastructure, and range anxiety, so a hybrid is a good compromise. Hybrids tend to have great fuel economy, and consumers don't have to worry about running out of battery life during long-distance driving or finding a charging station in more rural areas, especially one that actually works. Great video Shari.
Consumers don't have to be ready for the BEV's (the mandate for ONLY BEVs is Marxist, because it eliminates our freedom of choice, based on the forcibly imposed left ideology that will never succeed because it is Utopic). Based on real science, BEV's suck because they are very polluting, extremely dangerous, very unreliable, highly expensive, very impractical and [the most important "quality"] controllable (especially by the Chinese commies). The claim of saving the planet is false - as usual, is about power, about controlling us, not about helping us. My case is normal: I have very efficient ICE cars (Mazda MX-5/Miata ND2, Suzuki Jimny LCV 4x4 etc.), but also an excellent hybrid: Lexus UX 250h AWD F Sport - that I intend to drive till I'll die. Thank you, but no sh!tty BEV for me. By the way, hybrids are not at all a compromise, but the best way to save the lost kinetic energy when braking (or even coasting) that otherwise destroys the brake pads, rotors etc. Also you save on the parts you don't need anymore: alternator, belts etc. Thus they are very efficient, taking the best out of both worlds: ICE and EV.
@@Steve_in_NJ Also, CR said that hybrids(not the plug-in type) are the most reliable vehicles. Plug-In Hybrids (with the exception of the Toyota Prime models) are the least reliable. The Chrysler Pacifica Plug-In for example is near the bottom for reliability.
I’ve had my ford escape hybrid for about six months. So many reviews talk down the ecvt. I can’t determine why. I love the continuous smooth acceleration and the low mpg I get from mine. Car companies thru the last 80 years have bragged about their smooth shifting transmissions and spent big bucks to make them quieter. Now the have the ecvt and the want me to think it is better for me to feel and hear my trans shift!
Absolutely great information. You break down things so simply and sensibly highlighting the most beneficial and challenging things we need to be aware of to make the most informed decision as s consumer. A million thanks for all of your hard work on all of your videos.
I recently took delivery on my third consecutive Prius (‘23 Prime 😎) over the last 17+ years and over 575K KM collectively… Toyota has the best system, hands down.
😂 This is a no brainer. TOYOTA. 🇯🇵 Topgun. #1. 💯 The all new redesign RAV4 Redesign is shipping in the summer. Hybrid only now as all ICE variants discontinued. Huge HP Increase to 234. All new exterior and vastly improved interior. ✅
Since you encouraged your great concise videos listeners to share what hybrid they prefer, I’ll say briefly. I prefer and purchased this summer a single pre-owned 2011 Lexus RX 450h AWD on demand crossover w/ 76k low mileage. Except the expected sooner or later for such a heavier mid-size V6 VVTi crossover anticipated worn shock, struts and front link replacement, everything else the service said is in good shape. Nobody in luxury hybrid crossover market beats Lexus RX V6 w/ eCVT reliability during the years passed since 2010 and even before. You’re absolutely right 👍💥
I've always had a Toyota but have been considering buying my first hybrid. Your report has convinced me to stick with Toyota. Now to decide, which one?
A better description of the Honda hybrid, that emphasizes its simplicity, is that it is usually driven purely by electricity. But that electricity comes from a combination of a battery and an ICE-driven generator. This is called a serial hybrid. There literally were two experimental version of the system in the Clarity, leased in California, where the electricity was battery-only, or battery plus hydrogen fuel cell. The chief criticism of a serial hybrid is that the two conversions between electrical and mechanical power add what seem to be unnecessary losses. What these criticisms ignore is that separating the ICE from the wheels allows the ICE to run at its peak efficiency almost all the time. But that is also where the clutch comes in. In situations where power and speed do not need to fluctuate much - that is, on the highway - it becomes a single-speed parallel hybrid.
Watch your videos all the time, and I am very impressed with your knowledge of the market, almost purchased a Honda Accord Hybrid but after some research, I decided on a non-hybrid I am delighted with my 1.5lt turbo Honda Accord even a lower price not sold on a Hybrid.
@moeanthony9308 not sure what the pricing is like in the states but the civic hybrid in Canada is very close in price to a camry hybrid. It's preliminary. Maybe it will change. And maybe the new camry will increase in price.
I wanted to buy a Rav 4 Hybrid but the wait time was 6 months minimum(acct the sales) so I got a CX-5 (gas powered) instead. Toyota's failure to make enough Hybrid vehicles to serve the market demand has been going on for years. If that does not get changed they will suffer from such arrogance! I like Toyota cars but when the sales tried to convince me to give up the Rav 4 hybrid and buy a BZ4X instead, I refunded the deposit and walked away.
I own a Toyota Prius 2006 model here in sunny South Africa. Last year I opted for a replacement hybrid battery and I am amazed that I now get better fuel consumption with the new battery pack. From purchase in 2010 I averaged 5.2 l/100 km. Now I am getting 4.8 l/100 km. It is a Nickel Metal Hydride battery but I don't know why it performs better. Should the new Prius come here, I am lining up to get one or the Lexus RXH versions if available. Thanks for the reviews and confirming my choice as a Toyota.
So the old technology Prius would get you 17 years of battery life; I wonder how long will the new lithium battery in the new Prius last, 30% better or 22 years?
The explanation is pretty simple. A strong battery allows you to store more electrical energy (or to store the same amount more quickly), both from engine charging and regenerative braking. The extra electrical drive energy lets you spend more time cruising on battery with the engine off, and less time with the engine on.
This video so opened my eyes! Looking for a non plug-in hybrid and looks like it's either a Honda or a Toyota (I don't like the look of Toyota's, though). Great video with super pertinent content. Cheers, mate!
I still drive my 2010 Prius and have 210,000 miles on the original battery. My mpgs have gradually decreased from mid 50's to now around 40. I am considering getting a rebuilt battery, but I haven't decided if I want to keep it for several more years. My only issue is with how much the Toyota dealerships charge for out of warranty repairs. Luckily, there are some much more reasonably price mechanics out there that know how to fix a Prius these days.
You do not go to Toyota dealer for battery replacement, usually with refurbished hybrid battery, the cost is continuously going down on hybrid batteries, regardless of first generation NiMeH or Li-ion, but not with the new car dealers?
and what is a price to change this (how much, 1 kW?) battery? I expecting that this should not be more than 1000 $ considering that EV's have 60-100 kW batteries
@zokonjazokonja Green Bean batteries will install a reconditioned battery for $1,799+tax and has a 3 year warranty. I'm still trying to find a less expensive option. The good news is that I don't need AC this time of year, so my mpg is back into the mid 40's.
My neighbor across the street has a 2014 Prius, gets greater than 50 mpg; over 300K miles; and the Prius is his everyday commute vehicle. Toyota's hybrid experience is major reason that I bought a 2019 RAV4 Hybrid new. I'm at 40K miles. It cost $900 more than the non-hybrid model, but the fuel savings breakeven was at 18K miles. My No#1 dislike is the 12V battery all the way in the rear ... a super nuisance if the 12V battery is dead AND you want to get into the vehicle to charge the battery (only the front door has the key backup option). Heads up, just do NOT let the car sit without use OR trickle-charge for 8 weeks .... otherwise, great vehicle !! On forest "roads", TRAIL mode is wonderful.
Yes, others also are wondering/complaining why Toyota/Lexus RX hybrids will position their 12V conventional battery in the trunk when opening it when the battery is discharge is a dramatical puzzle. However, there is a video that shows that one needs first to charge-boost a bit using the hybrid battery controller plus port (red cap) and metal (-) grounded part under the hood. Then open the trunk and access/replace the 12V battery hidden under the cover on the left next to the spare tire compartment.
No car maker can equal Toyota hybrids for reliability. We drive an ‘11 Prius and a ‘16 Rav4 hybrid. Zero repairs on either one except wreck damage on the Rav4.
Just purchased first hybrid. The hybrid is totally new to me. Thank you for some info on it, sounds like luckilly i chose well. I have the NX 350h Lexus AWD. Still trying to learn about it. Thanks again This is a process.
I am the extremely happy owner of a 2015 Honda Accord Hybrid, which uses the same hybrid drive principle that you described. I was very disappointed to hear that the current Accord hybrid uses the "traditional feel" hack in the transmission ratios. That "traditional feel" means that you are getting BOTH less than the maximum power you could get AND less than the best economy you could get from that drive system. At full throttle, my old Accord Hybrid winds right up to maximum power as soon as the wheel traction can take it (~25 MpH), while the "traditional feel" hack causes the engine to be below maximum power most of the time, as it pretends to follow the fixed gear ratios. At cruising speeds, my 2015 always uses the the most efficient engine speed for the amount of power requested, but the "traditional feel" hack causes the the engine operate at the fixed speed dictated by the pretend gear ratio, almost always less efficient. So, the sound that "many drivers" love is actually the sound of sub-optimal operation. I've been considering buying a 2024 or 2025 Accord Hybrid, but I won't be doing that unless there's a way to turn off that feature and return to true eCVT operation.
After owning both Honda and Toyota, I have selected Honda for my last four cars. Honda is more fun to drive and has better road feedback. Toyota and its dealers came up with many ways to have you pay more. Although Toyota is enjoying better reliability but my 97 Camry had paint peeled off and engine burning oil problems. Unfortunately, it did not reach 100,000 miles before retirement.
Great video Shari, thanks! Please comment on Toyota vs Honda hybrid systems at specific speed ranges. I rarely get out of the city or over 55kph and am wondering if that should affect the choice between a RAV4 and a CR-V from a mileage perspective.
@@carhelpcorner Thanks for your reply! I’m a retired Canadian living in Vietnam. Here, Toyota advertise 5.7L /100km for the RAV4 in the city. Honda advertise 3.4L /100km for the CR/V. I am skeptical of the latter. The salesman said that Honda’s serial system was far superior in the city. Also, we are prone to flooding, do you think the hybrid batteries are waterproof enough for driving through water up to the bottom of the door sills?
@@darinlee8375 Toyota's hybrid is better than Honda's (see The Car Care Nut or others). However, knowing Vietnam, I do recommend an ICE reliable car such as the Mazda CX-5 (not the newer and less reliable CX-50). It will cost less and it will be overall more economical on long term.
My daughter has had two Prius V's and she has had trouble with both of them. The controllers and the batteries went out on both of them, costing her over $3,000 on each one. Other than the controller and the battery and AC problems, these cars were both very good.
Nice vid! But wait, how about Nissan? Actually I was thinking about buying a hybrid Sentra ( available with a 1.2 lit NA + single-speed transmission in my region) but, wn I saw yr vids on Toyota and Honda hybrids I thought maybe I should buy one of those. It'd be great if u could compare Nissan (and maybe others) to Toyota just like u did with Honda and Hyundai. Tysm!
I happen to speak Japanese and shortly after the EU mandate on vehicle electrification, watched Japanese news round tables on the impact on their auto industry. It was commonly understood that hybrids were prohibited because European automakers couldn’t compete with Japanese (I.e. Toyota) hybrid technology, which is far more challenging than BEV. The round table discussants didn’t express resentment, it was more acceptance with some worry about Japan’s capacity urgently adapt to new rules. This was before the U.S. mandate, but the American government motivation seems very similar. Of course, plans in both cases are being stymied by a certain other Asian country.
I have a 2016 Toyota Avalon. I bought it new and haven’t had any problems with it. As I live in Southern California where we tend to have a batch of Forrest fires that causes our electricity to go out, I would never get an EV where there is a possibility I wouldn’t be able to charge it.
I'm on a RAV4 Facebook owners group. Why am I constantly reading that the a large number of hybid owners feel that hybrids should never be sprayed with the likes of Krown or Rust Check. Is this line of thought coming from dealerships or is it a internet rumor?
I wouldn’t disparage the Hyundai/kia hybrid models w/o turbo. Big deal one engine instead of 2? As you pointed out, they have the best warranty in the industry, and they get waaay better than 40 mpg! Not to mention a price well under $30k, for a great looking passenger car. The SUV’s & truck are almost as good as the passenger car.
Our 2021 AWD Escape Hybrid has 80k miles and it's been very reliable, for a F.O.R.D. Nice ride too. The only issue has been a persistent front cover weep, despite two attempts to seal it. Maintenance, which I do myself, isn't so bad now that Ford has added fill and drain plugs on everything. The 14 screws holding up the awful fibrous under shield is a real pain for oil changes though. The 1 qt of PTU and 1 qt of rear diff oil every 30k or so get pricey at $40 and $50 a bottle respectively! Next hybrid will be a 2025 AWD Camry.
You should mention the new Nissan X trail that is offering an innovative hybrid system that does not require plug in and uses a small endothermic engine just to recharge the battery, while all power to the wheels comes from an electric engine ( two electric engines in the case of the AWD version)
i have drive the toyota yaris cross hybrid and the honda jazz crosstar hybrid.after analizing this two i will choose the honda.because the honda has bigger interior space,122hp compare the toyota 116hp, 10 airbags,better interior design/usefull handys like the backseats ,smooth drivng ev system,less noise driving and handeling performance.fuel ecomeny is about equal.
Nissan has a very good hev setup, which is just an ev setup with a petrol generator to top up the battery. If only they put a smaller engine engine in it would be more economical, but watch out for new technologies in the engine world we might just see this soon, Liquid Piston, Mazda's rotary, the only downside side is noise off these. They will run on any fuel, including e-fuels.
As a soon to be buyer, I would choose Lexus UX or Toyota Venza. For all the reasons you listed. I would consider a Civic hybrid when they come out, but, no 4 wheel option and I like the way most 4 wheel cars sit a little higher.
me and my girl bought a new 2023 Lexus UX Luxury for $39K. We wanted a used Rav 4 in North Texas and they were all OVER $35K! So we checked out the Lexus dealer, scrapped up 7k down and drove back up to Camp Lejeune, North Carolina. Don’t forget to change the oil and filter within the first 1K miles. That’s when most wear occurs. Change it at the LATEST every 6K miles. If you do lots of short commutes (< 10 miles) change it at 4K. it’s $40 tops if you DIY and takes 20 minutes tops. worth the peace of mind!
Excellent choices. Both Toyota Venza and Lexus UX 250h are very reliable. We chose the hybrid UX F Sport and we had zero issues in 5 years, low TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) - despite changing the oil often, at about 5000 miles, having applied chassis rust protection etc. And you get a serene ride, very comfortable and quiet - typical Lexus luxury - and a huge efficiency. The Civic (I used to have one in the 2009-2020 period) is far behind in quality and reliability (Toyota/Lexus is #1 in reliability while Honda dropped in the last decade to #6).
Of course toyota hybrid always the best i already owned a 2022 venza hybrid excellent on gas about cable corrosion people should take to rust protection at the krown rust proofing like i did for my venza it is solved the problem thanks for sharing your video take care bye from milton Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
Great video. We own 3 Toyota' s and I will only purchase a Toyota they have been great vehicles. We're looking to purchase 2 new Toyota Hybrids very soon....
Toyota has it down a pat. Very reliable, very efficient, easy maintenance, batteries are relatively cheap to replace and service, very well thought out :) If you can handle the CVT drone, imo, besides Honda, they are the ones to go for.
New, the difference in price used to be $2.000 Camry gas/hybrid. Now the difference is huge. Which (Honda/Toyota) new or used has the better hp. I drive 90% city? Used, I am a senior and don't drive daily (5,500 km/y) in Toronto
I don't understand why new. Especially when you are a senior (just like me), drive little etc. I am buying only with huge discounts, usually almost new second-hand reliability champions. The ES is an excellent suggestion and it's superior in many ways to its cousin (Camry), even though they share the #1 tech in hybrids: Toyota.
@@paulrodger3115 , from my point of view any of them are fine (hybrid - that I prefer - or ICE) as long as they are made in Japan or in the USA. The year is up to your budget - just avoid the year described on forums as having issues. Do your research well and the car will outlast you (the same case for me) 😉
I can't understand why people still choose Toyota, because Honda has a better hybrid, Toyota's battery is charged during braking during recuperation, its generator does not charge the battery, Honda has this option. , Honda is a priority!
Nice Video Shari, exactly what I am looking for. Currently I drive a 2017 Honda Accord Hybrid touring. I drive 30 - 32,000 miles/year and have 230K miles on my car in 7 years. Probably next year I will be looking for a replacement. I am looking at CR-V, RAV4, Crown Sedan or Signia, and Lexus NX300h. My current ride did not come with a spare, but I took out all the foam and found a full size spare that would fit in the space, and would do the same in the next car/suv as well. I know RAV4 comes with a spare, but not sure about the Crown models. I hate that the lexus models come with the run-flat tires. Do any of these car have enough space for me to stick a spare tire in?
They wouldn't have enough space for a spare under the cargo floor. You would have to just put it in the cargo area. Some buy a donut spare kit and just throw it in the back for road trips.
Thank you for the great video. Do you recommend staying away from the Kia Niro Hybrid? What would you recommend for a reliable small hybrid? I have limited space in my driveway. 76 inches length maximum. Thank you so much
Thank you so much for the quick response. I am going with the Niro plug in. I like the look better than the Toyota especially the interior. The gas mileage is also better. Your reviews are great and very helpful. Merry Christmas.
@@carhelpcornerfor people who want to carry large items in the back, the shape of the Niro is a clear winner over the Prius (esp 4 and 5 gen) and the Corolla (hybrid not available on the hatchback). The Prius V is gone and the Corolla Cross hybrid has a multiple year wait on it. (Niro is not a turbo engine)
I'm finding it difficult to choose between CRV and RAV4 Hybrid.. RAV4 here in canada is vapour stock. Can't literally find one.But Honda got plenty in stock. Is it worth waiting for Toyota or should i go for a Honda?
Wait for the awesome new RAV4 shipping in the summer. Far superior to the old CRV that’s in stock now. 👍 The current CRV is smaller and the interior is inferior.
Some questions.... is the insurance on hybrid cars more than regular gasoline cars? Also, do they have to be plugged in? If so, then that's a deal breaker.
Wait..so which models are effected by direct fuel injection carbon build up? You mentioned both Toyota and Honda having them. How is this information spread across different models and engine designs???
Well you should look for reviews on companies doing in your local area. Rust protection is not something you do yourself. Often because panels are taken out, it is a good idea to put sound insulation also at same time for minimal additional cost.
You mentioned the driveshaft as a con of the Honda, I think it might actually be a pro. The RAV4 system AWD is less capable than the CRV because of it. Most arent offroading but it can make a difference in areas with mountains and snow (like Denver). Also I dont think what you said about oil spray is correct at all, the problem with toyota cables is moister gets trapped in the cable. Sealing it would make the problem worse. This is why toyota put an opening in the cable to let water drain out after finding the problem, although there have been some reports of it corroding still (but I would bet this is rare).
The RAV4's AWD is certainly less capable, but it is also less complicated and maintenance free. As for the oil spray rustproofing, it does not seal in moisture. It actually does the opposite by repelling water to prevent corrosion. It works very well. In any case, Toyota now covers this issue under extended warranty.
Yes CRV $4K more than RAV4 but wait time is 1-2yrs due to demand. If you can wait sure, but if not get the CRV you still can’t go wrong with it! Nicer interior and also high resale value!
Seriously, Toyota is up to the fifth generation hybrid drivetrain in the 2024 Hybrid Max drivetrain. No one has perfected the hybrid drivetrain like Toyota.
Shame the Fusion isn't around anymore.. that was the most fun to drive... but right now the gap in price for a 2020 model is MASSIVE... at least where I am looking.. (okay there is a recall for the BECM ... but still. sometimes it's 8 to 10 grand), I thought the Elantra hybrid uses a DCT...
Stuck between a Camry SE hybrid or Tesla model 3 Toyota seems like the move but 37$ a month in electricity sounds good to. Toyota seems like the best deal compared to the rest of the car brands even Honda
Even if you like that low amount to be paid on electricity (and maybe the amazing acceleration), the truth is that the BEV's suck. They are quite expensive, the replacement battery is very costly (while a battery replacement for a hybrid is about 10 times cheaper), they burn (again expensive) tyres, the insurance is huge etc. They are highly unreliable, very dangerous if you keep them close to your house, very pollutant, not good on long trips or towing etc. Toyota's hybrids are far better.
I have worked on my friends 2009 Toyota Prius. It probably should get the battery pack replaced. However, it is still working after I replaced a faulty brake acuator. Not a huge fan of rebuilt battery packs.
I’ve had a 2023 Camry Hybrid for just over 12 months now and I can confirm that it is the cheapest car to run by far. I average 4.6lt per 100kms and get 900km range from a 50 litre tank. It’s brilliant.
Probably the best hybrid comparison video out there aside from carcarenut, thanks for making solid content like this.
Only Honda and Toyota should have on the shortlist .they reliable and dependable
Fanboi attitude. in the covid period their dealerships were acting like the mafia and shaking people down. I bought hyundais. doing great.
Definitely a fan boy and goes with the crowd 😂. He doesn't even know the toyota engines die just like the hyundai engines. LoL only good hyundai engine is 1.6L and all v6s are fine.
@@rohitnijhawan5281
tik tok is why i hate korean cars
covid is why i have japanese hybrids
japan having better prices than USA cars is why i hate ford
TL;DR bah humbug.
i love my car but im soooo glad i got it before the fiasco of car prices after 2019.
used cars cost as much as new cars
new cars have a 2000 higher cost than msrp due to supply issues
people get their "new" car in the next year.
its just insane, i feel like a boomer owning a house while the milenials are homeless, (yet its car ownership to carless folks)
its just horrendous how prices have gotten out of hand.
i get it when Luxury vehicles cost as much as a fixer upper home, 85k and up. but 50k for a feature loaded vehicle is a big ask. and while i dont mean to insult anyones income, 700 ish dollars a month for a depreciating asset begs the question... will the vehicle help you make more money or only cost you more money?
at least with hybrids, they can easily answer with reduced fueling costs, but are creature comforts truly worth that much?
idk, and i honestly cant explain car prices at all. since rarity means cars can literally cost 100s of thousands of dollars (just to collect dust and show off)
and others cost less than 1000 yet are only useful for parts.
to each his own, but at the very least can the middle of the line consumer not pay for a car that costs the same as a fixer upper home.
@@PrincePorter do share some links proving your claim? From what I can find the most reliable cars (hybrids and others) are made by Toyota and Lexus.
@@noyb-yb ua-cam.com/video/F994QmOD6W8/v-deo.htmlsi=bgnVaRE0yCnZVrKu
We just bought a 2024 Toyota Camry Hybrid SE Nightshade Edition ....❤️ it!
How much?
@@ninapachulli bought it last November for 31k
@@Raider19582 thank you
For many consumers, they are not quite ready for EV's because of expense, charging infrastructure, and range anxiety, so a hybrid is a good compromise. Hybrids tend to have great fuel economy, and consumers don't have to worry about running out of battery life during long-distance driving or finding a charging station in more rural areas, especially one that actually works. Great video Shari.
In addition, the 2024 Consumer Reports Vehicle Report just came out and EV rank in the "they suck" category (except Tesla).
Consumers don't have to be ready for the BEV's (the mandate for ONLY BEVs is Marxist, because it eliminates our freedom of choice, based on the forcibly imposed left ideology that will never succeed because it is Utopic).
Based on real science, BEV's suck because they are very polluting, extremely dangerous, very unreliable, highly expensive, very impractical and [the most important "quality"] controllable (especially by the Chinese commies).
The claim of saving the planet is false - as usual, is about power, about controlling us, not about helping us.
My case is normal: I have very efficient ICE cars (Mazda MX-5/Miata ND2, Suzuki Jimny LCV 4x4 etc.), but also an excellent hybrid: Lexus UX 250h AWD F Sport - that I intend to drive till I'll die. Thank you, but no sh!tty BEV for me.
By the way, hybrids are not at all a compromise, but the best way to save the lost kinetic energy when braking (or even coasting) that otherwise destroys the brake pads, rotors etc. Also you save on the parts you don't need anymore: alternator, belts etc. Thus they are very efficient, taking the best out of both worlds: ICE and EV.
@@Steve_in_NJ Also, CR said that hybrids(not the plug-in type) are the most reliable vehicles. Plug-In Hybrids (with the exception of the Toyota Prime models) are the least reliable. The Chrysler Pacifica Plug-In for example is near the bottom for reliability.
I don't understand why people keep saying that hybrids are a compromise. Hybrids are the best of both worlds.
hyundai KIA hybrid make no sense.
battery replacement cost you $15,000.
its cheaper to drive V8.
Toyota ! I own 2022 highlander hybrid and it’s one of the best
I agreed!!! It is the best 🙄👌👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻!!!
I’ve had my ford escape hybrid for about six months. So many reviews talk down the ecvt. I can’t determine why. I love the continuous smooth acceleration and the low mpg I get from mine. Car companies thru the last 80 years have bragged about their smooth shifting transmissions and spent big bucks to make them quieter. Now the have the ecvt and the want me to think it is better for me to feel and hear my trans shift!
Absolutely great information. You break down things so simply and sensibly highlighting the most beneficial and challenging things we need to be aware of to make the most informed decision as s consumer. A million thanks for all of your hard work on all of your videos.
You are so welcome!
I recently took delivery on my third consecutive Prius (‘23 Prime 😎) over the last 17+ years and over 575K KM collectively… Toyota has the best system, hands down.
Congrats!!
😂 This is a no brainer. TOYOTA. 🇯🇵
Topgun. #1. 💯
The all new redesign RAV4 Redesign is shipping in the summer. Hybrid only now as all ICE variants discontinued. Huge HP Increase to 234. All new exterior and vastly improved interior. ✅
Since you encouraged your great concise videos listeners to share what hybrid they prefer, I’ll say briefly. I prefer and purchased this summer a single pre-owned 2011 Lexus RX 450h AWD on demand crossover w/ 76k low mileage. Except the expected sooner or later for such a heavier mid-size V6 VVTi crossover anticipated worn shock, struts and front link replacement, everything else the service said is in good shape. Nobody in luxury hybrid crossover market beats Lexus RX V6 w/ eCVT reliability during the years passed since 2010 and even before. You’re absolutely right 👍💥
Thank you for making everything easy to understand!
Great video! Learned a bit as I didnt know the awd was different between companies.
I've always had a Toyota but have been considering buying my first hybrid. Your report has convinced me to stick with Toyota. Now to decide, which one?
A better description of the Honda hybrid, that emphasizes its simplicity, is that it is usually driven purely by electricity. But that electricity comes from a combination of a battery and an ICE-driven generator. This is called a serial hybrid.
There literally were two experimental version of the system in the Clarity, leased in California, where the electricity was battery-only, or battery plus hydrogen fuel cell.
The chief criticism of a serial hybrid is that the two conversions between electrical and mechanical power add what seem to be unnecessary losses. What these criticisms ignore is that separating the ICE from the wheels allows the ICE to run at its peak efficiency almost all the time. But that is also where the clutch comes in. In situations where power and speed do not need to fluctuate much - that is, on the highway - it becomes a single-speed parallel hybrid.
I bought Rav4 Hybrid Limited 2022 🙄👌👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Great, informative video as always. Thank you!
Watch your videos all the time, and I am very impressed with your knowledge of the market, almost purchased a Honda Accord Hybrid but after some research, I decided on a non-hybrid I am delighted with my 1.5lt turbo Honda Accord even a lower price not sold on a Hybrid.
Thank you! Hope you enjoy your Accord!
Your information and advice is very good, I learn a lot from watching your videos.
Thank you!
I'd love to get a civic hybrid but with how Honda is pricing things lately, the gap between it and a camry hybrid isn't much. So likely a camry
A Civic and a Camry are two different price points. Corolla hybrid is a better comparison
@moeanthony9308 not sure what the pricing is like in the states but the civic hybrid in Canada is very close in price to a camry hybrid. It's preliminary. Maybe it will change. And maybe the new camry will increase in price.
@@mattwilliams7454 there is no civic hybrid released in Canada
@moeanthony9308 it's announced for 2024
@@mattwilliams7454 yes I know but again no final msrp announced too early to make comparisons
As a former toyota technician, i can openly say prius's just dont ever have major issues!
Honda Insight 2020 vs Toyota Prius 2020 which is better you think?
I wanted to buy a Rav 4 Hybrid but the wait time was 6 months minimum(acct the sales) so I got a CX-5 (gas powered) instead. Toyota's failure to make enough Hybrid vehicles to serve the market demand has been going on for years. If that does not get changed they will suffer from such arrogance! I like Toyota cars but when the sales tried to convince me to give up the Rav 4 hybrid and buy a BZ4X instead, I refunded the deposit and walked away.
I own a Toyota Prius 2006 model here in sunny South Africa. Last year I opted for a replacement hybrid battery and I am amazed that I now get better fuel consumption with the new battery pack. From purchase in 2010 I averaged 5.2 l/100 km. Now I am getting 4.8 l/100 km. It is a Nickel Metal Hydride battery but I don't know why it performs better. Should the new Prius come here, I am lining up to get one or the Lexus RXH versions if available. Thanks for the reviews and confirming my choice as a Toyota.
So the old technology Prius would get you 17 years of battery life; I wonder how long will the new lithium battery in the new Prius last, 30% better or 22 years?
South Africa may be sunny, but it’s a cloudy political mess.
The explanation is pretty simple. A strong battery allows you to store more electrical energy (or to store the same amount more quickly), both from engine charging and regenerative braking. The extra electrical drive energy lets you spend more time cruising on battery with the engine off, and less time with the engine on.
This video so opened my eyes! Looking for a non plug-in hybrid and looks like it's either a Honda or a Toyota (I don't like the look of Toyota's, though). Great video with super pertinent content. Cheers, mate!
You had me convinced ro stick to these two and no others!
I still drive my 2010 Prius and have 210,000 miles on the original battery.
My mpgs have gradually decreased from mid 50's to now around 40. I am considering getting a rebuilt battery, but I haven't decided if I want to keep it for several more years.
My only issue is with how much the Toyota dealerships charge for out of warranty repairs.
Luckily, there are some much more reasonably price mechanics out there that know how to fix a Prius these days.
You do not go to Toyota dealer for battery replacement, usually with refurbished hybrid battery, the cost is continuously going down on hybrid batteries, regardless of first generation NiMeH or Li-ion, but not with the new car dealers?
and what is a price to change this (how much, 1 kW?) battery? I expecting that this should not be more than 1000 $ considering that EV's have 60-100 kW batteries
@zokonjazokonja Green Bean batteries will install a reconditioned battery for $1,799+tax and has a 3 year warranty. I'm still trying to find a less expensive option. The good news is that I don't need AC this time of year, so my mpg is back into the mid 40's.
watch out for the head gasket. mine blew at 275,000 miles.
I was surprised to see Ford on this list, but it was a good surprise. Great video, learned a lot. Thank you and have a nice day!
My neighbor across the street has a 2014 Prius, gets greater than 50 mpg; over 300K miles; and the Prius is his everyday commute vehicle. Toyota's hybrid experience is major reason that I bought a 2019 RAV4 Hybrid new. I'm at 40K miles. It cost $900 more than the non-hybrid model, but the fuel savings breakeven was at 18K miles. My No#1 dislike is the 12V battery all the way in the rear ... a super nuisance if the 12V battery is dead AND you want to get into the vehicle to charge the battery (only the front door has the key backup option). Heads up, just do NOT let the car sit without use OR trickle-charge for 8 weeks .... otherwise, great vehicle !! On forest "roads", TRAIL mode is wonderful.
Yes, others also are wondering/complaining why Toyota/Lexus RX hybrids will position their 12V conventional battery in the trunk when opening it when the battery is discharge is a dramatical puzzle.
However, there is a video that shows that one needs first to charge-boost a bit using the hybrid battery controller plus port (red cap) and metal (-) grounded part under the hood. Then open the trunk and access/replace the 12V battery hidden under the cover on the left next to the spare tire compartment.
Excellent research and presentation, you provide us with everything we need to know to make a informed decision, Thank You! Javi G.
Glad it was helpful!
I drive a Toyota Hatch 2023 and loves it, please provide some tips on efficient hybrid driving
No car maker can equal Toyota hybrids for reliability. We drive an ‘11 Prius and a ‘16 Rav4 hybrid. Zero repairs on either one except wreck damage on the Rav4.
How have the water pumps held up?
Honda accord hybrid. Love it❤. And I didn’t know anything about hybrids before purchase 😮!
Just purchased first hybrid. The hybrid is totally new to me. Thank you for some info on it, sounds like luckilly i chose well. I have the NX 350h Lexus AWD. Still trying to learn about it. Thanks again This is a process.
Great stuff man.
Thanks for the information...its very helpful
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
I am the extremely happy owner of a 2015 Honda Accord Hybrid, which uses the same hybrid drive principle that you described. I was very disappointed to hear that the current Accord hybrid uses the "traditional feel" hack in the transmission ratios. That "traditional feel" means that you are getting BOTH less than the maximum power you could get AND less than the best economy you could get from that drive system. At full throttle, my old Accord Hybrid winds right up to maximum power as soon as the wheel traction can take it (~25 MpH), while the "traditional feel" hack causes the engine to be below maximum power most of the time, as it pretends to follow the fixed gear ratios. At cruising speeds, my 2015 always uses the the most efficient engine speed for the amount of power requested, but the "traditional feel" hack causes the the engine operate at the fixed speed dictated by the pretend gear ratio, almost always less efficient. So, the sound that "many drivers" love is actually the sound of sub-optimal operation.
I've been considering buying a 2024 or 2025 Accord Hybrid, but I won't be doing that unless there's a way to turn off that feature and return to true eCVT operation.
After owning both Honda and Toyota, I have selected Honda for my last four cars. Honda is more fun to drive and has better road feedback. Toyota and its dealers came up with many ways to have you pay more. Although Toyota is enjoying better reliability but my 97 Camry had paint peeled off and engine burning oil problems. Unfortunately, it did not reach 100,000 miles before retirement.
Great video Shari, thanks! Please comment on Toyota vs Honda hybrid systems at specific speed ranges. I rarely get out of the city or over 55kph and am wondering if that should affect the choice between a RAV4 and a CR-V from a mileage perspective.
Both are most efficient at lower speeds during stop and go driving. It's easier to get better fuel economy out of the RAV4, but they are very close.
@@carhelpcorner
Thanks for your reply!
I’m a retired Canadian living in Vietnam. Here, Toyota advertise 5.7L /100km for the RAV4 in the city. Honda advertise 3.4L /100km for the CR/V.
I am skeptical of the latter. The salesman said that Honda’s serial system was far superior in the city. Also, we are prone to flooding, do you think the hybrid batteries are waterproof enough for driving through water up to the bottom of the door sills?
@@darinlee8375 Toyota's hybrid is better than Honda's (see The Car Care Nut or others). However, knowing Vietnam, I do recommend an ICE reliable car such as the Mazda CX-5 (not the newer and less reliable CX-50). It will cost less and it will be overall more economical on long term.
On kia-hyundai don't forget to mention the HSG belt wich need to be replaced at every 50 000km in canada, seems costly...
I have Toyota Venza and Love ❤️ it
How much?
My daughter has had two Prius V's and she has had trouble with both of them. The controllers and the batteries went out on both of them, costing her over $3,000 on each one. Other than the controller and the battery and AC problems, these cars were both very good.
Women😂😂😂
I would go Toyota.
Nice vid! But wait, how about Nissan? Actually I was thinking about buying a hybrid Sentra ( available with a 1.2 lit NA + single-speed transmission in my region) but, wn I saw yr vids on Toyota and Honda hybrids I thought maybe I should buy one of those. It'd be great if u could compare Nissan (and maybe others) to Toyota just like u did with Honda and Hyundai. Tysm!
Nissan is shit. They needed to sell out and cut corners everywhere.
Toyota and lexus by far!
Thanks. Great review.
I don't know where do you live if in Canada krown rust proofing is the best i do every one to 2 years my 2009 matrix still like brand new
Toyota is better. There is tons of honda in stock but Toyota you will have to look for inventory as stock sells fast. Think about that.
Agree, but that may be due to the brand name. Toyota is the epitome of reliability.
I happen to speak Japanese and shortly after the EU mandate on vehicle electrification, watched Japanese news round tables on the impact on their auto industry. It was commonly understood that hybrids were prohibited because European automakers couldn’t compete with Japanese (I.e. Toyota) hybrid technology, which is far more challenging than BEV. The round table discussants didn’t express resentment, it was more acceptance with some worry about Japan’s capacity urgently adapt to new rules.
This was before the U.S. mandate, but the American government motivation seems very similar.
Of course, plans in both cases are being stymied by a certain other Asian country.
toyota hybrid is the best.
I have a 2016 Toyota Avalon. I bought it new and haven’t had any problems with it. As I live in Southern California where we tend to have a batch of Forrest fires that causes our electricity to go out, I would never get an EV where there is a possibility I wouldn’t be able to charge it.
we are all in with toyota hybrid… 2 camrys and a lexus 450h… just fine vehicles… actual long-term value
I'm on a RAV4 Facebook owners group. Why am I constantly reading that the a large number of hybid owners feel that hybrids should never be sprayed with the likes of Krown or Rust Check. Is this line of thought coming from dealerships or is it a internet rumor?
From what I understand is that rust proof is a waste of money on modern vehicles because they don't rust anymore.
When you do find out plz let us know
Dealers say this to sell their own wildly overpriced rust protection. Krown or Rust Check does not hurt the car in any way.
@@carhelpcornerthanks for replying but which 1 do you prefer?
I wouldn’t disparage the Hyundai/kia hybrid models w/o turbo. Big deal one engine instead of 2? As you pointed out, they have the best warranty in the industry, and they get waaay better than 40 mpg! Not to mention a price well under $30k, for a great looking passenger car. The SUV’s & truck are almost as good as the passenger car.
Our 2021 AWD Escape Hybrid has 80k miles and it's been very reliable, for a F.O.R.D. Nice ride too.
The only issue has been a persistent front cover weep, despite two attempts to seal it.
Maintenance, which I do myself, isn't so bad now that Ford has added fill and drain plugs on everything. The 14 screws holding up the awful fibrous under shield is a real pain for oil changes though.
The 1 qt of PTU and 1 qt of rear diff oil every 30k or so get pricey at $40 and $50 a bottle respectively!
Next hybrid will be a 2025 AWD Camry.
Excellent video. Thank you!
In small cars,Honda jazz by far 😊!
You should mention the new Nissan X trail that is offering an innovative hybrid system that does not require plug in and uses a small endothermic engine just to recharge the battery, while all power to the wheels comes from an electric engine ( two electric engines in the case of the AWD version)
Nothing in a Nissan is "innovative". It's more like "others aren't desperate enough to use this".
i have drive the toyota yaris cross hybrid and the honda jazz crosstar hybrid.after analizing this two i will choose the honda.because the honda has bigger interior space,122hp compare the toyota 116hp, 10 airbags,better interior design/usefull handys like the backseats ,smooth drivng ev system,less noise driving and handeling performance.fuel ecomeny is about equal.
Nissan has a very good hev setup, which is just an ev setup with a petrol generator to top up the battery. If only they put a smaller engine engine in it would be more economical, but watch out for new technologies in the engine world we might just see this soon, Liquid Piston, Mazda's rotary, the only downside side is noise off these. They will run on any fuel, including e-fuels.
As a soon to be buyer, I would choose Lexus UX or Toyota Venza. For all the reasons you listed. I would consider a Civic hybrid when they come out, but, no 4 wheel option and I like the way most 4 wheel cars sit a little higher.
Dnt get that super loud venza. I wanted to buy, but the thing was so loud on highway, I said forget it😅
The Venza will be gone soon. Its being discontinued for the Crown Signia in the Summer 2024. Looks really nice, except for probably the wallet.
me and my girl bought a new 2023 Lexus UX Luxury for $39K. We wanted a used Rav 4 in North Texas and they were all OVER $35K!
So we checked out the Lexus dealer, scrapped up 7k down and drove back up to Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.
Don’t forget to change the oil and filter within the first 1K miles. That’s when most wear occurs. Change it at the LATEST every 6K miles. If you do lots of short commutes (< 10 miles) change it at 4K. it’s $40 tops if you DIY and takes 20 minutes tops. worth the peace of mind!
Excellent choices. Both Toyota Venza and Lexus UX 250h are very reliable.
We chose the hybrid UX F Sport and we had zero issues in 5 years, low TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) - despite changing the oil often, at about 5000 miles, having applied chassis rust protection etc. And you get a serene ride, very comfortable and quiet - typical Lexus luxury - and a huge efficiency. The Civic (I used to have one in the 2009-2020 period) is far behind in quality and reliability (Toyota/Lexus is #1 in reliability while Honda dropped in the last decade to #6).
Without a doubt Toyota 👍
Very informative video. Thank you very much!
Honda love to design cars that doesn't wanna to sell.
Like it's over priced for their products.
Of course toyota hybrid always the best i already owned a 2022 venza hybrid excellent on gas about cable corrosion people should take to rust protection at the krown rust proofing like i did for my venza it is solved the problem thanks for sharing your video take care bye from milton Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
Where in canada 🇨🇦 can I get the krown rust proofing done by the way am in toronto and is good?
TOYOTOA BY MILES THEY WERE THE FIRST TO BRING HYBRID AND THEY ARE ALWAYS UPDATING AND MAKING BETTER HYBRID ENGINES
Great video. We own 3 Toyota' s and I will only purchase a Toyota they have been great vehicles. We're looking to purchase 2 new Toyota Hybrids very soon....
KIA: Warranty is worthless if it is ... worthless, thank you for mentioning longevity, and it's more than just the engine turning off and on.
Toyota has it down a pat. Very reliable, very efficient, easy maintenance, batteries are relatively cheap to replace and service, very well thought out :)
If you can handle the CVT drone, imo, besides Honda, they are the ones to go for.
Thanks, well done.
I have a Toyota Corolla and I get 60+ mpg (UK)
Is it possible to start engine of either of these cars without traction battery?
New, the difference in price used to be $2.000 Camry gas/hybrid. Now the difference is huge. Which (Honda/Toyota) new or used has the better hp. I drive 90% city? Used, I am a senior and don't drive daily (5,500 km/y) in Toronto
If you only drive 5500 p/y get a Lexus ES used. Same as an overpriced Camry. V6 300+ hp quiet, smooth, comfy.
I don't understand why new.
Especially when you are a senior (just like me), drive little etc.
I am buying only with huge discounts, usually almost new second-hand reliability champions. The ES is an excellent suggestion and it's superior in many ways to its cousin (Camry), even though they share the #1 tech in hybrids: Toyota.
@@jimpitt7112 ES 300, 350 ? h hybrid? year?
@@codincoman9019 ES 300, 350 ? h hybrid? year?
@@paulrodger3115 , from my point of view any of them are fine (hybrid - that I prefer - or ICE) as long as they are made in Japan or in the USA. The year is up to your budget - just avoid the year described on forums as having issues. Do your research well and the car will outlast you (the same case for me) 😉
Great info thanks.
I can't understand why people still choose Toyota, because Honda has a better hybrid, Toyota's battery is charged during braking during recuperation, its generator does not charge the battery, Honda has this option. , Honda is a priority!
They look awful and have a poor service network. They are also harder to sell.
Nice Video Shari, exactly what I am looking for. Currently I drive a 2017 Honda Accord Hybrid touring. I drive 30 - 32,000 miles/year and have 230K miles on my car in 7 years. Probably next year I will be looking for a replacement. I am looking at CR-V, RAV4, Crown Sedan or Signia, and Lexus NX300h. My current ride did not come with a spare, but I took out all the foam and found a full size spare that would fit in the space, and would do the same in the next car/suv as well. I know RAV4 comes with a spare, but not sure about the Crown models. I hate that the lexus models come with the run-flat tires. Do any of these car have enough space for me to stick a spare tire in?
They wouldn't have enough space for a spare under the cargo floor. You would have to just put it in the cargo area. Some buy a donut spare kit and just throw it in the back for road trips.
Thank you for the great video. Do you recommend staying away from the Kia Niro Hybrid? What would you recommend for a reliable small hybrid? I have limited space in my driveway. 76 inches length maximum. Thank you so much
Your best choices would be a Toyota Prius or Toyota Corolla Hybrid. Can't go wrong with either one. The Kia Niro would be third choice.
Thank you so much for the quick response. I am going with the Niro plug in. I like the look better than the Toyota especially the interior. The gas mileage is also better. Your reviews are great and very helpful. Merry Christmas.
Fyi, elantra hybrid is NA engine. It is not turbo engine like in video says.
@@carhelpcornerfor people who want to carry large items in the back, the shape of the Niro is a clear winner over the Prius (esp 4 and 5 gen) and the Corolla (hybrid not available on the hatchback). The Prius V is gone and the Corolla Cross hybrid has a multiple year wait on it. (Niro is not a turbo engine)
I'm finding it difficult to choose between CRV and RAV4 Hybrid.. RAV4 here in canada is vapour stock. Can't literally find one.But Honda got plenty in stock. Is it worth waiting for Toyota or should i go for a Honda?
Toyota man , honda is not like before their quality dropped
@@Kamikaze.7 what about Cable corrosion issue in toyota
I recommend the CRV Hybrid, it's more refined than Toyota. Trust me have both..
Wait for the awesome new RAV4 shipping in the summer. Far superior to the old CRV that’s in stock now. 👍
The current CRV is smaller and the interior is inferior.
Honda. It’s larger, rav4’s are tiny inside and downgrade interior.
Can you do hybrid SUVs with resale value in mind? Thank you.
Some questions.... is the insurance on hybrid cars more than regular gasoline cars? Also, do they have to be plugged in? If so, then that's a deal breaker.
Hybrids do not need to be plugged in. As for insurance, there should be no difference between the hybrid and non-hybrid version of the same vehicle.
What is max towing capacity of the Toyota hybrid with two electric motors?
RAV 4 Prime......Outstanding vehicle so far
I’m in the market for my first hybrid sedan. I’m inclined to purchase a Toyota or Lexus.
Wait..so which models are effected by direct fuel injection carbon build up? You mentioned both Toyota and Honda having them. How is this information spread across different models and engine designs???
I have a sportage turbo hybrid and love it
Can you recommend rust protection brand for hybrids? is difficult to know which one to choose
Well you should look for reviews on companies doing in your local area. Rust protection is not something you do yourself. Often because panels are taken out, it is a good idea to put sound insulation also at same time for minimal additional cost.
Also check with your dealer. Some companies application will void the warranty.
Krown or Rust Check are both excellent choices. Krown has been around 35 years and works very well.
The top is very simple: Toyota/Lexus. Hyundai/Kia and Ford are far away from reliability and TCO performance.
Camry hybrid. Can’t go wrong with it. Hondas are equally good too.
You mentioned the driveshaft as a con of the Honda, I think it might actually be a pro. The RAV4 system AWD is less capable than the CRV because of it. Most arent offroading but it can make a difference in areas with mountains and snow (like Denver). Also I dont think what you said about oil spray is correct at all, the problem with toyota cables is moister gets trapped in the cable. Sealing it would make the problem worse. This is why toyota put an opening in the cable to let water drain out after finding the problem, although there have been some reports of it corroding still (but I would bet this is rare).
The RAV4's AWD is certainly less capable, but it is also less complicated and maintenance free.
As for the oil spray rustproofing, it does not seal in moisture. It actually does the opposite by repelling water to prevent corrosion. It works very well. In any case, Toyota now covers this issue under extended warranty.
Hyundai hybrid battery $15k & needs to be replaced at 170k. I would investigate the hybrid battery cost before purchasing a hybrid.
I just priced out the high end CRV and the RAV4 Limited both Hybrid. The CRV is $4Grand more than the RAV4!!
Yes CRV $4K more than RAV4 but wait time is 1-2yrs due to demand. If you can wait sure, but if not get the CRV you still can’t go wrong with it! Nicer interior and also high resale value!
Got a 2020 CRV Hybrid EXL. No issues nor complains here.
Toyota is superior to Honda, hybrids included - check the Consumer Reports annual reliability survey.
@@codincoman9019I’ve zero trust in consumer reports.
@@Anonymous-d7q amazing, as do most of the snowflakes.
Toyota & Honda are always number 1 😊
Toyota yes. Honda is below (#6 in the Consumer Reports annual reliability survey, still far better than the Koreans.
Seriously, Toyota is up to the fifth generation hybrid drivetrain in the 2024 Hybrid Max drivetrain. No one has perfected the hybrid drivetrain like Toyota.
In the real world Japanese made hybird Toyota 24-7
are 5k dealer markup common for hybrids here in bay area?
yes. 5k+for all toyota and honda. Hyundai is mostly MSRP in sedan hybrid
Find-a better deal. Fly out and drive back.
Shame the Fusion isn't around anymore.. that was the most fun to drive... but right now the gap in price for a 2020 model is MASSIVE... at least where I am looking.. (okay there is a recall for the BECM ... but still. sometimes it's 8 to 10 grand), I thought the Elantra hybrid uses a DCT...
great info as always, wondering where you got that polo shirt from
I think Costco lol
Stuck between a Camry SE hybrid or Tesla model 3
Toyota seems like the move but 37$ a month in electricity sounds good to. Toyota seems like the best deal compared to the rest of the car brands even Honda
Even if you like that low amount to be paid on electricity (and maybe the amazing acceleration), the truth is that the BEV's suck.
They are quite expensive, the replacement battery is very costly (while a battery replacement for a hybrid is about 10 times cheaper), they burn (again expensive) tyres, the insurance is huge etc. They are highly unreliable, very dangerous if you keep them close to your house, very pollutant, not good on long trips or towing etc.
Toyota's hybrids are far better.
I have worked on my friends 2009 Toyota Prius. It probably should get the battery pack replaced. However, it is still working after I replaced a faulty brake acuator. Not a huge fan of rebuilt battery packs.
Toyota RAV4’s are great but I just can’t come to love the interior. It looks very old and and feels outdated
Late 2024 early 2025 should be a significant improvement.
@@johnmartin7158 That's good news!