Transverse or longitudinal refers to the orientation of the crankshaft. Transverse = crank across the frame. Longitudinal = crank in-line with the frame. Hence you are correct Bob, the Guzzi is longitudinal.
@@timbrowning6874 ...although confusingly, Guzzi refer to their engines as Transverse in spec sheets (due to cylinder orientation) even though they have longitudinal crankshafts.
Strictly peaking 'transverse' is where the crankshaft is at 90° to the frame. Most motorbikes have a transverse engine. Longitudinal is where the crankshaft is in line with the frame or car chassis, typified by traditional rear wheel drive cars, and shaft drive bikes, Moto Guzzi, Goldwing. Type "transverse engine" into Google.
OK . gonna say something because I can see this bike becoming very popular . a lot of triumph owners wondering . the triumph is very refined and great everyday bike but , after 2 yrs ownership and not knowing why I felt something was missing I was given the opportunity while hanging out at a bike shop ( was actually test rid in bmw1200gt for winter ) to test ride this bike . I sat on it in the shop and was surprised at just how right it felt . then outside when guy started the bike I "felt" the bike . then I sat on it and revved the engine and the bike felt alive . I am describing accurately my experience . then I rode it and felt happy , the bike made me smile . I felt alive . I had to calm myself down for first corner as was demo and didn't know if tyres were scrubbed in . I turned around back to bike shop because I knew I liked it . I got call today for what they'd give me for my triumph part ex . the day I rode the guzzi I learned things about myself and the triumph . so instead of buying my heated seat/grip , faired bike for winter , I'm calling the shop tomorrow . right or wrong I don't wanna deny that feeling . Lee .
I really enjoyed your comment. Could you please let us know if you ended up buying this bike or it wasn't meant to be? and whatever decision you made, are you happy with it?:)
I'm on my second V7 Stone. I had a "model 1" which was stolen, then I bought a V7II. I sat on the Triumph several times and tried to like it but it was heavy and the mirrors were poor quality. I use the V7 for a 40 mile round trip commute of country lanes, dual carriageway and urban. I do all day rides 2 up. My wife and I have been away camping on it. It will reach the national speed limit briskly (never timed it, but 4 or 5 seconds) and will carry on to 100 mph, which is enough to lose your licence. In top gear it will bimble along happily. Drop a gear and it becomes more sprightly. There's a pleasure in ownership, and in riding it well. And I never have to clean, adjust and lubricate the chain. It's natural competitors are something like the Honda CB500 (which it beats for character and for the shaft drive) and the Triumph Street Twin (the Guzzi is lighter and more characterful). Lovely bike.
Drew Hart-Shea So if you were sans motorcycle and saw them on sale the next state over you would take a plane over and ride a new one home; no second thought?
@@Rick_Sanchez_C137_ the thing about having an Italian bike in the states if you don't have a lot of money and on multiple motorcycles is service and waiting for parts
After 50 years of motorcycling, track days, hillclimbing, dirt biking, and touring, I just bought my first Italian motorcycle. I traveled 3 1/2 hours to an out of state dealer to buy the 2018 V7 III Stone. I figured as Italian-American, I should own an Italian motorcycle before I die. I have owned many bikes, and mostly loved them all. I sold my Yamahas (FJR13 and FJ12) to cull the herd and make room for a simpler and lighter motorcycle. Sure, I could have bought a Triumph, but I already own a Norton. The Guzzi is light by modern standards, has a bigger tank and better fuel mileage than most 750's, the seat height is right for my 30-inch legs, handles well, shifts like butter (same diaphragm style clutch as the Norton), has character, and is dependable. I added a flyscreen and it is all I need at this stage of my life. I love it.
@@deliobartolucci5399 Since I bought the V7, and the onset of winter, the weather here in Missouri has not been good for riding. I only have only 300mi. (487km) on it and it is not even broken in yet. Of course, it is not as powerful as my other motorcycles, but they were bigger engines. I can tell you that my Norton (an 828cc) feels like it has more torque. The V7 will not yank your arms straight like the Norton. The V7 has a very predictable power delivery. No surprises when you twist the throttle open. It is not a high-performance motorcycle, so don't expect that. I am happy with the fuel the fuel mileage (50-55mpg) and that may improve as the engine breaks in.. It is a simpler motorcycle by today's standards. I have not played with the "modes" yet, so I can't comment on that. The rev limiter is the only detraction I see with the bike. But that can be re-set after the bike is through its break-in. I expect many years of easy-going riding and I will have an unusual motorcycle to show off when meeting with other riders along the way.
Don't worry Delio. I had a V7 and went for Advanced Rider training. On my first ride with the instructor after a while he stopped me and said 'Do you normally ride like that?' I said yes, and he replied "I am a racing instructor at Mallory Park. You should come down there. You would run rings round the go-faster youngsters in their blue and white leather racing gear on their Japanese bikes'. It's not all about power, it's about how you use what you have got. @@deliobartolucci5399
I love my Guzzi because it is dead simple, reliable, and it has the easiest 6,000 mile service intervals. The sound and character of the engine makes it such a fun and pleasurable motorcycle to ride. Downside, is that Guzzi’s do have vague transmissions. However one thing to count on, is that a Guzzi gets better with more miles you put on it.
Interesting to hear that as servicing isn’t really something you can review as part of a test ride! I think the transmission is something you just get used to with time, right?
MOTOBOB I own a 09’ V7 classic with a 5spd gearbox. It is clunky when cold, but so are BMW’s. I got used to it, but my dads Honda CB1100 is so much smoother and refined in every way.
There is some back lash on the shaft drive but not as sloppy as most chains. The gearbox isn't really vague, it's just that is doesn't notch like most bikes do. It doesn't clunk into gear but you do have to push the lever all the way to the end of its travel. I got used to it around the second time I rode it.
Excellent review...you speak the truth IMO. One thing though, count on 300 miles per tank if you are on the motorway! With so many beautiful bikes out now, this is still one of the nicest retro's on the market.
Still prefer the Guzzi. Triumphs are fantastic but there’s something about the tiny Italian stallion that has me owning a third in 5 years. That being said, I’ve also owned 3 triumphs.
If you think that sidestand is tricky to find with your boot, you've never ridden a BMW F800S. Also, if that's so high on your list of faults, I think you've proved it's a good bike.
Great to see a Guzzi review. I love my California 1400 Touring and I have always wonder how a V7 would handle. I keep waiting for Ryan F9 to do a review like yours. But Guzzi’s are rare here in Canada. Good work.
Strangely I just noticed moto guzzi, I ride hd but recognize what a excellent bike mg is, I'd nvr buy one without a dealer close by. Dealer network is my #1 concern...
I just discovered this video while searching input to all Guzzi stuff :) Perhaps you should state that your test bike was the A2 version of the V7 III. The original Version has 52 HP and about 60 Nm torque... Just to put things straight ;)
And gained at least 15kg which is worth about 2hp plus peak torque has moved up from 3000 to 4000 and the power drops off sharply after max at 6200 whereas the V7ii maxes out at 6300 but keeps going to the limiter around 7200-7500. Dunno, sometimes newer isn't better.
Jeff 2019 Moto Guzzi V7 III Stone specifications, pictures, reviews and rating General information Dry weight: 189.0 kg (416.7 pounds) Weight incl. oil, gas, etc: 209.0 kg (460.8 pounds) Power/weight ratio: 0.2751 HP/kg Seat height: 770 mm (30.3 inches) If adjustable, lowest
The Moto Guzzi V7 II Stone is a Naked/Road bike manufactured by Moto Guzzi. In this version sold from year 2015, the dry weight is 186 kg (410.06 pounds) and it is equiped with a two-stroke motor. The engine produces a maximum peak output power of 48 HP (35 kW) @ 6500 RPM and a maximum torque of 59 Nm (6.01 kgf-m or 44 ft.lbs) @ 2750 RPM.
The shaft drive and the proximity to a dealer is what gave this bike the edge when I was looking for a new bike. I prefer air cooled when looking at naked bikes. The exposed radiator just ruins the look IMO. I chose the V7III Carbon Dark and I believe this bike to be a long term keeper.
I think triumph have done a good job of playing the radiator down on the liquid cooled bikes. But I get what you’re saying - I looks cleaner and more retro without one at all
Speaking as a v7 owner, once the gear oil warms up, the transmission is buttery smooth. clutch is smooth and consistent, and you get used to finding the side stand without looking for it. It does everything it was designed to do very well.
I just step out of a local Moto Guzzi dealer and couldn't get my mind off the new V7 III Rough. It's a very beautiful machine and i really love the way they keep everything simple yet elegance. Any owner for this model? What is it like to compared with the Stone or the Milano?
I've bought one in September and I think that it's a winner if you want a very capable machine with a lot of character more (in my opinion) the standard! has less plastic than the stone and less chrome part than the Milano and the tires are so good in every condition, even some fire road and little offroad!
Currently own a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 cc that I have had for 20 years. Once took me 120 miles on one cylinder at highway speed when one spark plug wire crapped out on a Sunday morning with no shops open. At almost 70 years old it has gotten too heavy to maneuver in and out of situations. Purchased a 2013 Moto Guzzi V7 Stone at more than 100 pounds less wet weight. Absolutely love it. Will stay with Moto Guzzi for the rest of my riding life. I have owned BMW, Laverda, Ducati, Moto Morini, Triumph, BSA, Zundapp, Indian, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Cagiva and loved them all for different reasons, but the fact that I can physically handle the weight of a bike that will cruise (illegally) at 85-90 mph for as long as I need, looks good, is reliable and affordable and unique, why shop anywhere else?- -Mike Battle
Great review! Big fan of the moto guzzi V7’s. I think the V7 Rough is the best looking model. Got that scrambler style! But i’m really interested in the new V85 TT. Will try to do a testride when they are at the dealers.. Cheers!
Thanks mate! The rough looks cool for sure. The V85 TT looks great too although would like to see it in some other colour schemes. Wonder if they’ll launch with just the yellow/red
Yeah I think black would be cool too. I like the khaki green tank on the v7 stone with everything else blacked out - might look cool on this bike. Triumph tiger 800 looks good in that colour
Guzzi owner here. This video was randomly suggested for me and now I've watched several of your videos. Love the styling, music, pacing etc. Would love to see you branch out more in to other makes/models like you did here with the Guzzi. Keep it up! Subscribed!
Rob H I’m looking at picking up a stone iii, what is your opinion? Are they as awesome as they sound, or are there fanboys a plenty, afraid to speak ill of Italian engineering? Every bike has things wrong, if these are as good as the review, and no major issues, I might have to go grab one... still undecided what the next bike will be.
I have the v9 bobber which is just a bit too much character, if the v7's you're well read mate the v9's you're well read mate recounting his travels after three too many pints. One thing I dislike in a sense is the community hah you won't hear that anywhere trust me, it's a bit culty I once got asked to kindly move my post on Facebook to the bike issues page when I asked if anyone was having 02 sensor issues, sometimes just a bit too quick to defend their loved guzzi brand if you follow me. Really easy to service as I'm sure lots will comment I can't imagine any bike being easier actually, but when you said it would be good as a winter bike I recoiled a bit, they don't weather fabulously in my time with one (four years all seasons), but the older ones probably do. Its the electronics I'm not convinced with. Having said all that my bike was brand new and if you know how to keep a bike well kept ie plug the exhausts when washing, grease the screw heads, acf50, keep that battery on a trickle, shelter when you can etc and the faults are ironed out yes they BECOME faultless and an old easy dog to live with. It's a bike for an old experienced man who's been around the block, knows every trick in the book and has a garage to put it in during winter. Im 28 and only got it because I'll never be able to afford one again perhaps.
Interesting to hear! Thanks mate. Btw I don’t think the irrational defensiveness is specific to Moto Guzzi. When I publish a video about almost any bike you’ll get some sensitive souls showing up to comment and defend their purchasing decision! You just get used to it...
Great review, I ride an older V7 Classic, but your review totally tracks with my experience (though I live in the US, and really hate riding on the interstate highways). One thing I would add that wouldn’t come up on a short test ride, is that the aftermarket support for Guzzis is much more limited than for the other modern classic bikes out there.
captainmicahp It’s a numbers game. Harley and the Japanese manufacturers predominate in the marketplace and as such create a large demand for aftermarket support. The smaller manufacturers just don’t garner the aftermarket support that the big boys do.
That's weird when you work out the numbers that Harley are such small potatoes on the global market. They sell slightly *less* units per annum than the Piaggio group (Moto Guzzi); 500,000 vs 553,000.
Actually Honda Worldwide are No.1 huge, then Yamaha-India, then the Indian manufacturers taking up the next four or five slots, then the rest of the Japanese ... and then the cottage industries. The Piaggio group is pretty big comprising, Piaggio, Vespa, Gilera, Aprilia, Moto Guzzi, etc etc and a lot of the Aprillia kit fits Guzzi, as does that from earlier 'small blocks' and they've been making them forever. Plus there are after-market parts from Hepco & Becker, SW-Motec, Knight Design, BAAK, etc etc
Piaggio group that includes Vespa. Guzzi are made in small numbers in an old factory. Nothing wrong with that but the back up wont be the same as the larger manufacturers.
Driveshaft, easy maintenance and awesome looks is what drove me to my MG V7. I looked at a triumph for the longest time but opted for a guzzi instead for all the above reasons. Honest video review, enjoyed watching it
I’ve ridden Guzzi’s for 30 years, starting with a T3, then a v50 Monza ( I still have it), a 52 Falcone and I’m rebuilding a 235 Lodola. Guzzis tend to be addictive.
Trouble is, one day you will wake up and find you are too old to ride it :( Then you have to go out and buy a scooter. Anything to stay on two wheels before you need four to cart you around.@Theodore Marakas
Would like to compare this bike to my Ducati 797 Monster, both bikes are air cooled and have similar torque figures. Love the big tank on the V7, that’s a big selling point. Nice review 👍
Thanks RC! 👍 I’d imagine the monster will be a more sporty ride but I haven’t ridden one myself so hard to say. Definitely need to check one out some day!
Love everything about this bike apart from being stacked in 1st gear when engine is cold. Even after 5 minutes of stationary running the gearbox is still sticky. The clutch cable was adjusted during 1st service but have to go back again with this problem 😳
Been there, chalk and cheese. The RE 650 has a lovely engine but let down by fit and finish. OMG that seat. Got a super bruise from the spike on the stand behind my calf. Sum of little things really, couldn't get comfortable on it. Compare to Guzzi, no contest. RE dealer attitude can be very variable, the current importers are a waste of milk.
Nice review of a top bike. I liked the fact that although you liked the Guzzi and it has similar spec to your present bike but you didn't see it as an upgrade to your present bike. Enjoying your reviews
@Theodore Marakas you can pick a seat you like to come with the bike. Every year they come out with a different one, so it depends. And you have gel options also. Some people like it how it is.
You say 48bhp and 40Nm whereas the V7 III has 52bhp and 60Nm. Quite a large difference in torque, and it's down low giving it a long power band. It's still not the most powerful in this weight range but most bikes with more produce their torque up the top with a short power band. Having said that, the 0-60 time of the V7 II and V7 III is very similar to an 1800cc Goldwing. Guzzi never actually published what the V7 II put out. We do know it produced the same 60Nm but 1200rpm even lower down. The power figures available vary from 48bhp to 55bhp, with variations in compression ratio which may be regional for available fuel. The long power band lends itself to the unusual overtaking technique of changing /up/ and then opening the throttle.
The new Royal Enfield Interceptor will be a strong competitor in this segment. Looking forward to some road test comparisons when it becomes available to the public.
This bike has a new motor with 52 HP due to the normal pent roof cylinder head, vs the Heron head of the previous models. But they may have neglected to raise the gearing with the slight increase in grunt.
HI very good review , I am a new rider, just got my license , will this be too difficult for a beginner rider ? If yes , do you have any recommendations for me , I prefer street bike , cafe racer is my cup if tea......haha , Thanks,
I am a Street Cup owner and I love it... Today I went at a local dealer in town for the Guzzi V7 III Carbon, I really love it... Now I have to choose between selling the Street Cup or keep it ! The 5 speed gearbox is really missing one more speed.
I still wonder why they missed the 6th gear on the Street Twin etc. - I've read on some forums that people think it is a marketing move to distinguish the 1200 bikes from the 900. Seems a bit like a conspiracy theory to me, but it really limits the potential of the bike for longer trips.
i really like this bike it's just a pure old school bike but with modern tech that will start every time and will be great project if that's what you like.
Only if you're an idiot. It has enough torque to spill the back wheel out. I've had the MGCT kick in a few times, as it should when you lose grip. It's very well set up and its behaviour is barely noticeable.
I’m a huge Guzzi fan and loved my Bellagio 940. I’m now on an Africa Twin, and might switch to a Triumph Tiger 800 XRT as a next bike (had one before and consider it possibly the best all-rounder on the market), but I always fondly remember my Guzzi and would love to have a Stone III as a smaller, rumbling, characterful and less practical second bike one day. Or maybe, just maybe, the new V85TT could tick all my boxes in one go? Can’t wait to see the reviews for that one.
Tigger 800 - uncomfortable, wobbles on bends, heat comes up like an industrial hair drier into your face. The V7 handles better than the VT85TT too, lower CofG.
Can anyone help..... I've had a little 2016 lexmoto valiant 125 for a couple of years and doing my full bike test soon. Been looking at a moto guzzi v7 a lot as the seat height looks ideal for me... I'm only 5ft6....with shoes on. I like a triumph t100 or a royal enfield interceptor style bike. But 804mm seat height may be too high for me. Any other suggestions?? At that style of bike. Even a honda cb550 four I like but seat height again 805mm...
Owned 4 v7s, small bike, great secondary bike, shaft drive is fantastic, good looks, good stopping power, lacks power, we all know this, but it does get old after a while, when i dont own one, i start to miss it though, twins and shaft drive overrides the slow syndrome, lol, 6spd, traction control, and abs are all plusses, handling is great, touring on long rides get a little uncomfortable after 300 or so miles, wouldnt hesitate to buy another one to add to all the unnecessary vehicles i own
Lacks power? Acceleration is certainly on par with my mate's 1800cc Goldwing, and they're not slow. Probably quicker through bends, not that the pleasure barge is slow but it is built for comfort. That beast will tour, the V7 probably not first choice. Given 21 litres and 65mpg, 300 miles is a tank of fuel.
I have a V9 Roamer and a Honda CB1100ex. Love both of them. The Honda is 50K heavier and it shows. The Honda is like a Swiss watch the Guzzi like a cement mixer. The Guzzi is an easier ride and I do enjoy riding it. I am 82 yrs old and at a quarter of a tonne the Honda is beginning to feel a bit heavy
I'm shaking I want this bike so badly.. Only unfortunate issue is that where I live in Virginia, there aren't many dealerships around that are close by for routine work like oil changes, etc etc. There is a dealership in Richmond Virginia, but that dealership is over 3 hours away, and I absolutely DO NOT want to deal with the cluster *uck of traffic in Richmond. Question.. apart from dropping the sump pan to get to the oil filter, finding the correct oil filter, and required motor oil, and shaft oil.. How much maintenance is required to be done solely at a Moto Guzzi dealership?
I love my 2019 V7III. An real live dinosaur. Super simple to work on. Not a hint of over engineered job justifying gadgetry. A fine handmade machine from the shores of Lake Cuomo. Thank you Moto Guzzi.
For me the 850 LeMans III was the ultimate Guzzi. For those of us that were riding in the early 80's, there was little to touch it for the money. Fast, sleek, comfortable and with better handling than the Japanese bikes of the day. Mates of mine that had these always used to arrive a little less tired and flustered than the rest of us. Now if they ever do a re issue.......
Those are such a beautiful bike! A reissue would definitely be interesting. I wonder if the retro market will move on to 80s bikes soon. I guess Suzuki already released the new Katana...
My most relaxing and least tiring ride has got to be my RE EFI-500 Classic because it is just so easy to ride, but my Guzzi V7 II is not far behind. with its longer legs. The Guzzi suspension is less sophisticated than that on the Enfield but Guzzi always handle so well they don't need fancy trick suspension. The 52bhp V7 III gains either 2 or 4 hp (depending on which V7 II spec sheet you look at) over the V7 II but the new bike has put on enough weight (some 15kg) to negate that gain (something like 7kg per hp). Peak torque on the V7 III is now some 1000rpm higher, so the length of the power band is reduced
@@motobob enough power for everything, very low fuel consumption, good brakes and decent agility for a cruiser. Rear suspension travel a bit on the short side but u can live with it. I fitted whitewall tyres and it's insta Steve mcqueen. Very refined bike, not cheapo tho
Power is : 52 HP for the latest V7 III version ,which was tested. Great bike which ist definitly an allrounder and not only for the city as mentioned. It's good in urban areas but also perfect for a daytrip to the countryside or even a week in France, if you travel without a second passenger and only small luggage.
- and 60Nm. The V7 has been 60Nm there or thereabouts since time immoral. Problem with the V7 III is it has a significantly shorter power band than the V7 II - and they never actually told us what the power of the V7 II was, anywhere from 47bhp (books) to 55bhp (dyno). If the V7 III has gained 2bhp it has also gained quite a bit more weight negating that. The width of the power band on the V7 II is ridiculous, from maybe 2500 to over 7000, so you don't have to change down. It just goes. I like that, but the V7 III bogged down had to be buzzed.That torque lets the V7 haul 2-up no problem. I don't live in a city :)
Generally waffle is good, for test rides I enjoy this more to the point format. A lot of others' reviews are waaay too long. FWIW on my 2018 ST I don't find it too revvy at 70 in 5th and still feels like it's got enough poke if I need it, but maybe just used to it as it's my first bike. Thanks for the videos.
Thanks for the feedback Jimbo! Yeah it’s not too bad on the ST but I definitely noticed it after switching from my ER6n which had 6. Maybe it’s more pronounced when you’re a bit over 70...
If the rev limiter is at 7400 then yes, 120mph. I can neither confirm nor deny it will go 115 two-up. The rate determining factor is how long you can take the naked bike wind buffeting above 70. It's not a crotch rocket sports bike, if you feel the need to go that fast regularly, it's the wrong bike for you. Acceleration is on-par with a GL1800.
I've had my 2014 V7 from new, and really like it. My one negative feeling concerns the lack of weight in the flywheel -- and the twist-grip which has very little travel. These things combine to make the bike quite different to the earlier models, in that it lacks the smoothing effect of a heavy flywheel and much sensitivity is needed in the right wrist if you want to ride smoothly. The obverse of this is an engine that responds like a two-stroke, and a twist-grip with twice the travel would really improve the situation. Or you can dangle a finger over the brake lever to keep your hand steady. It's all superbikes down here on the Costa, but it's my V7 that gets the admiring looks - I reckon it's a motorcyclist's motorcycle.
@@motobob Yes, I've done that and it does help. Incidentally when I picked up the bike from a dealership in Shipley, Yorkshire (more of a boutique really) it had been badly assembled, cables and levers out of adjustment etc, and was hardly rideable. The sales staff had no real knowledge of motorcycles and were full of crap. A novice rider would have thought it a terrible bike !
One can fit a different 'rotor'; that's the grip part that pulls the cables. They are available in different profiles, but for some reason MG use a shorter than normal hand grip. If you adjust the cables to the minimum amount of slack you can get away with, then fine control is better. The rotor could use a friction damper or 'stay-open' throttle. In slow-moving traffic it can be a mite touchy, nothing, nothing, oops. The closing cable has to be adjusted too, so there's little slack, and so you have positive control of the throttle. It's cable down to the potentiometer unit but the throttle body itself is fly by wire, that adds to the dither; actuation of the throttle is probably not linear to the cable pull but to a map.
So many reviews where folk stall as they first pull off!!! Got to say, after a test ride, the clutch is proper sensitive but still a truly great bike!!!
Did they finally get the fuel map correct, the highest standard of emissions in Europe in euro 4, which is above everthingeven California, the v7 II had a deadspot at 32mph to about 35 mph, annoying as hell, past 35 mph was smooth as silk, wondering if the v7 3 is linear across the throttle. Ur response is greatly appreciated ty, great review
What happened to progress? I had a 850 Le Mans in 1978. Was a great bike. How does this compare on price with the Royal Enfield 650? Look forward to a test of that.
The Royal Enfield 650 twins are about the price of a used Guzzi V7. By all accounts the RE twins are very good and handle well. They're A2 licence 35kW "47bhp" at 7200rpm and 52Nm at 5250rpm. The engine has been found to be very willing. The Guzzi V7 III is available in an A2 restricted version. The Triumph Street Twin is 900cc with significantly more power but its dry weight is the wet weight of the Guzzi. All of these bikes are about the same weight. The Guzzi has a particularly low CofG making it feel lighter to balance, even with its 21 litre tank full. (Having at least been up close with all of these, the RE only being a pre-production model at the time. Then having tested the V7 III and V7 II back to back, I bought the used V7 II)
Hi Bob, yeah I do like the Guzzi range in general. Like you I thing all 5 speed boxes should be consigned to history that’s operationally, emissions and ease of use. I’m looking at a good 2yr old Thruxton R with 2000miles on and track pack. I want something that goes faster, handles and stops properly. I’m looking for a new helmet and was trying to identify yours, is it a Schuberth ?
It’s just a cheap one - Spada Arc. Most days I wear a black Biltwell Gringo (they just launched an ECE compliant model) but it’s too noisy as the seal around the visor is poor and it doesn’t have a chin curtain, so i have to use the Spada for moto vlogging so you can actually hear me talk
Hi. Would like your opinion. In my country this bike and t120 are the same price. I had test rode them both but its only a mere 5km distance. Basically bonny engine and gear are super smooth n torqy. But aesthetic need to add mods more. Guzzi gear a little bit clunky n less torqy. But aesthetic is good. Barely any mod needed. But since you are a more experience rider, would like to know your opinion
the two bikes are on a different grid, of course T120 has more power and a double disk, but brake system became stressed early, the power and torque are higher but very smooth, also T120 weight more and is less agile than V7, and is a bit less comfortable, because handlebar is a bit too low, but again, it depends on your primary use. If you plan to do long motorways trips, then the T120 is better, if you need to drive in the traffic, the V7 is a winner.
@@rupertherbert594 thx for your feedback. Handlebar is not an issue, because i can simply replace it. Traffic use is about 40% usage for me. The rest is highway and country and twisties
the triumph is built in thailand while the guzzi is italian, enough said for a retro bike, one is pure marketing and design, the other is a family product old over half a century
@@motobob Do they ever salt the roads in London? It's the reason I just put it away here. Even if we do get a break in the weather, the road salt is so plentiful that it'll rust the bike away.
Great video! Moto guzzi here as well. I own a v7ii special with full scrambler kit. I love it. The only thing i dislike about the bike is the wobbly feeling you get cornering it.
Thanks! I found my street twin to be a bit wallowy in the corners until I upgraded the suspension. Not too expensive to do both forks and shocks from Hagon
I'd like to like Guzzis like the Stone, but there are two things so glaringly "off" that I can't. One is the single disc in front. While I understand that it might be adequate for 80% of all riders and conditions,it won't cut it when you ride the bike hard. The second is that it's slow. In a more exotic bike that might be bearable, but in this one it's just a drag. And why is it that Guzzi made probably the most reliable "superbike" of its era (the 850 LeMans) but now makes a similar-looking machine with much lower performance?
I see what you're saying, but if you want a fast bike with good brakes at this price point then you would probably be better off going for something modern like a Yamaha XSR don't you think? This bike is more about low key riding than performance.
had one for about a year. it was so uncomfortable after 30min ride and highway wind was beating my chest. around town is an ok bike. i dont recommend it. oil leaks are common.
The Moto Guzzi V-twin motor is transverse mounted not longitudinal mounted in the frame. Harley-Davidson's are longitudinal mounted.
My bad! Thanks for the info 🤘🙌
Transverse or longitudinal refers to the orientation of the crankshaft. Transverse = crank across the frame. Longitudinal = crank in-line with the frame. Hence you are correct Bob, the Guzzi is longitudinal.
@@timbrowning6874 ...although confusingly, Guzzi refer to their engines as Transverse in spec sheets (due to cylinder orientation) even though they have longitudinal crankshafts.
@@bjtk7789 As long as I am riding in a longitudinal orientation, it is all good!
Strictly peaking 'transverse' is where the crankshaft is at 90° to the frame. Most motorbikes have a transverse engine. Longitudinal is where the crankshaft is in line with the frame or car chassis, typified by traditional rear wheel drive cars, and shaft drive bikes, Moto Guzzi, Goldwing. Type "transverse engine" into Google.
OK . gonna say something because I can see this bike becoming very popular . a lot of triumph owners wondering . the triumph is very refined and great everyday bike but , after 2 yrs ownership and not knowing why I felt something was missing I was given the opportunity while hanging out at a bike shop ( was actually test rid in bmw1200gt for winter ) to test ride this bike . I sat on it in the shop and was surprised at just how right it felt . then outside when guy started the bike I "felt" the bike . then I sat on it and revved the engine and the bike felt alive . I am describing accurately my experience . then I rode it and felt happy , the bike made me smile . I felt alive . I had to calm myself down for first corner as was demo and didn't know if tyres were scrubbed in . I turned around back to bike shop because I knew I liked it . I got call today for what they'd give me for my triumph part ex . the day I rode the guzzi I learned things about myself and the triumph . so instead of buying my heated seat/grip , faired bike for winter , I'm calling the shop tomorrow . right or wrong I don't wanna deny that feeling . Lee .
I really enjoyed your comment. Could you please let us know if you ended up buying this bike or it wasn't meant to be? and whatever decision you made, are you happy with it?:)
Exactly how I want to feel about my bike and don't about my current honda nc750x
Same here. And then i added a pair of Mistral short pipes on it. Talk about that enhancing that feeling....
how's life on a guzzi?
Wow.
I'm on my second V7 Stone. I had a "model 1" which was stolen, then I bought a V7II. I sat on the Triumph several times and tried to like it but it was heavy and the mirrors were poor quality. I use the V7 for a 40 mile round trip commute of country lanes, dual carriageway and urban. I do all day rides 2 up. My wife and I have been away camping on it. It will reach the national speed limit briskly (never timed it, but 4 or 5 seconds) and will carry on to 100 mph, which is enough to lose your licence. In top gear it will bimble along happily. Drop a gear and it becomes more sprightly. There's a pleasure in ownership, and in riding it well. And I never have to clean, adjust and lubricate the chain. It's natural competitors are something like the Honda CB500 (which it beats for character and for the shaft drive) and the Triumph Street Twin (the Guzzi is lighter and more characterful). Lovely bike.
I've been riding my V7 for 2 years, 50 miles a day commute, and I absolutely love it. Best bike I've ridden, for me at least.
Drew Hart-Shea
So if you were sans motorcycle and saw them on sale the next state over you would take a plane over and ride a new one home; no second thought?
@@Rick_Sanchez_C137_ the thing about having an Italian bike in the states if you don't have a lot of money and on multiple motorcycles is service and waiting for parts
That's a lot of miles, good advert for reliability 👍
Do you know the city vs highway mpg?
Leaker
After 50 years of motorcycling, track days, hillclimbing, dirt biking, and touring, I just bought my first Italian motorcycle. I traveled 3 1/2 hours to an out of state dealer to buy the 2018 V7 III Stone. I figured as Italian-American, I should own an Italian motorcycle before I die. I have owned many bikes, and mostly loved them all. I sold my Yamahas (FJR13 and FJ12) to cull the herd and make room for a simpler and lighter motorcycle. Sure, I could have bought a Triumph, but I already own a Norton. The Guzzi is light by modern standards, has a bigger tank and better fuel mileage than most 750's, the seat height is right for my 30-inch legs, handles well, shifts like butter (same diaphragm style clutch as the Norton), has character, and is dependable. I added a flyscreen and it is all I need at this stage of my life. I love it.
how do you feel with your V7 after many miles or km? I listen many story I'm curious about your experience. Do you have problem after a month?
@@deliobartolucci5399 Since I bought the V7, and the onset of winter, the weather here in Missouri has not been good for riding. I only have only 300mi. (487km) on it and it is not even broken in yet. Of course, it is not as powerful as my other motorcycles, but they were bigger engines. I can tell you that my Norton (an 828cc) feels like it has more torque. The V7 will not yank your arms straight like the Norton. The V7 has a very predictable power delivery. No surprises when you twist the throttle open. It is not a high-performance motorcycle, so don't expect that. I am happy with the fuel the fuel mileage (50-55mpg) and that may improve as the engine breaks in.. It is a simpler motorcycle by today's standards. I have not played with the "modes" yet, so I can't comment on that. The rev limiter is the only detraction I see with the bike. But that can be re-set after the bike is through its break-in. I expect many years of easy-going riding and I will have an unusual motorcycle to show off when meeting with other riders along the way.
but I'm a beginner so I think some less power will fit me fine thanks for your time
Don't worry Delio. I had a V7 and went for Advanced Rider training. On my first ride with the instructor after a while he stopped me and said 'Do you normally ride like that?' I said yes, and he replied "I am a racing instructor at Mallory Park. You should come down there. You would run rings round the go-faster youngsters in their blue and white leather racing gear on their Japanese bikes'. It's not all about power, it's about how you use what you have got. @@deliobartolucci5399
I kindof agree. I like to thrash my Atreet Twin around a bit and it’s just fast enough to occasionally give you a scare :)
I love my Guzzi because it is dead simple, reliable, and it has the easiest 6,000 mile service intervals. The sound and character of the engine makes it such a fun and pleasurable motorcycle to ride. Downside, is that Guzzi’s do have vague transmissions. However one thing to count on, is that a Guzzi gets better with more miles you put on it.
Interesting to hear that as servicing isn’t really something you can review as part of a test ride! I think the transmission is something you just get used to with time, right?
Yup the gearbox on the MkIII is absolutely fine IMHO
MOTOBOB I own a 09’ V7 classic with a 5spd gearbox. It is clunky when cold, but so are BMW’s. I got used to it, but my dads Honda CB1100 is so much smoother and refined in every way.
There is some back lash on the shaft drive but not as sloppy as most chains. The gearbox isn't really vague, it's just that is doesn't notch like most bikes do. It doesn't clunk into gear but you do have to push the lever all the way to the end of its travel. I got used to it around the second time I rode it.
Jane Leelavathi I ride a ‘14 California 1400 Touring and I agree: the transmission is clunky when cold.
Excellent review...you speak the truth IMO. One thing though, count on 300 miles per tank if you are on the motorway! With so many beautiful bikes out now, this is still one of the nicest retro's on the market.
Thanks James. Interesting to hear about the fuel range - I was estimating low. 300+ is impressive!
@@motobob yes the v7 as you know is an excellent ride and again, thank you for your terrific review!😃
Still prefer the Guzzi. Triumphs are fantastic but there’s something about the tiny Italian stallion that has me owning a third in 5 years. That being said, I’ve also owned 3 triumphs.
Not to mention Triumph is Triumph in marketing only. No lineage, just a name picked up by a new motorcycle manufacturer
If you think that sidestand is tricky to find with your boot, you've never ridden a BMW F800S. Also, if that's so high on your list of faults, I think you've proved it's a good bike.
Great to see a Guzzi review. I love my California 1400 Touring and I have always wonder how a V7 would handle. I keep waiting for Ryan F9 to do a review like yours. But Guzzi’s are rare here in Canada. Good work.
Thanks! Appreciate it 🙌👍🤘
Strangely I just noticed moto guzzi, I ride hd but recognize what a excellent bike mg is, I'd nvr buy one without a dealer close by. Dealer network is my #1 concern...
To add meaning for us oldies in the UK 200 Kg = 440 lbs, 717 mm = 28 1/4" and 21 litres is 4.6 gals :-P
I believe he said 770mm, which is 30.3 inches , and more inline with the Guzzi factory stats.
I just discovered this video while searching input to all Guzzi stuff :) Perhaps you should state that your test bike was the A2 version of the V7 III. The original Version has 52 HP and about 60 Nm torque... Just to put things straight ;)
You are an unsafe rider. In America you would have gotten a ticket in the amount of time it takes to watch this video.
By the way, the V7 III has 52 hp and 60Nm...
My bad. I’ve pinned this comment for others to see
And gained at least 15kg which is worth about 2hp plus peak torque has moved up from 3000 to 4000 and the power drops off sharply after max at 6200 whereas the V7ii maxes out at 6300 but keeps going to the limiter around 7200-7500. Dunno, sometimes newer isn't better.
Jeff 2019 Moto Guzzi V7 III Stone specifications, pictures, reviews and rating
General information
Dry weight: 189.0 kg (416.7 pounds)
Weight incl. oil, gas, etc: 209.0 kg (460.8 pounds)
Power/weight ratio: 0.2751 HP/kg
Seat height: 770 mm (30.3 inches) If adjustable, lowest
The Moto Guzzi V7 II Stone is a Naked/Road bike manufactured by Moto Guzzi.
In this version sold from year 2015, the dry weight is 186 kg (410.06 pounds) and it is equiped with a two-stroke motor. The engine produces a maximum peak output power of 48 HP (35 kW) @ 6500 RPM and a maximum torque of 59 Nm (6.01 kgf-m or 44 ft.lbs) @ 2750 RPM.
That’s only a difference of 3 kg’s, not at least 15.
The shaft drive and the proximity to a dealer is what gave this bike the edge when I was looking for a new bike. I prefer air cooled when looking at naked bikes. The exposed radiator just ruins the look IMO. I chose the V7III Carbon Dark and I believe this bike to be a long term keeper.
I think triumph have done a good job of playing the radiator down on the liquid cooled bikes. But I get what you’re saying - I looks cleaner and more retro without one at all
Chains suck to maintain, i dont care what the can of chain lube says, it will get everywhere
Agree! Anti-fling still flings in my experience!
i prefer belt to everything
Speaking as a v7 owner, once the gear oil warms up, the transmission is buttery smooth. clutch is smooth and consistent, and you get used to finding the side stand without looking for it. It does everything it was designed to do very well.
The Guzzi has 52HP, not 48.
hartri55 The V7 III does have 52 but theV7 II has 48
I just step out of a local Moto Guzzi dealer and couldn't get my mind off the new V7 III Rough. It's a very beautiful machine and i really love the way they keep everything simple yet elegance. Any owner for this model? What is it like to compared with the Stone or the Milano?
I've bought one in September and I think that it's a winner if you want a very capable machine with a lot of character more (in my opinion) the standard! has less plastic than the stone and less chrome part than the Milano and the tires are so good in every condition, even some fire road and little offroad!
@@Lorenzoking03 thanks for the feedback 👍
@@Lorenzoking03 can You get a louder exhaust for it?
@@kyndrydspyryt3867 short Mistrals.... sound beautifully...
Currently own a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 cc that I have had for 20 years. Once took me 120 miles on one cylinder at highway speed when one spark plug wire crapped out on a Sunday morning with no shops open. At almost 70 years old it has gotten too heavy to maneuver in and out of situations. Purchased a 2013 Moto Guzzi V7 Stone at more than 100 pounds less wet weight. Absolutely love it. Will stay with Moto Guzzi for the rest of my riding life. I have owned BMW, Laverda, Ducati, Moto Morini, Triumph, BSA, Zundapp, Indian, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Cagiva and loved them all for different reasons, but the fact that I can physically handle the weight of a bike that will cruise (illegally) at 85-90 mph for as long as I need, looks good, is reliable and affordable and unique, why shop anywhere else?- -Mike Battle
Great review! Big fan of the moto guzzi V7’s. I think the V7 Rough is the best looking model. Got that scrambler style! But i’m really interested in the new V85 TT. Will try to do a testride when they are at the dealers.. Cheers!
Thanks mate! The rough looks cool for sure. The V85 TT looks great too although would like to see it in some other colour schemes. Wonder if they’ll launch with just the yellow/red
I’ve seen some pictures online with full red color, a purple greyish and the red and yellow one. Would look great in black!
I’ve seen some pictures online with full red color, a purple greyish and the red and yellow one. Would look great in black!
Oops something went wrong :)
Yeah I think black would be cool too. I like the khaki green tank on the v7 stone with everything else blacked out - might look cool on this bike. Triumph tiger 800 looks good in that colour
Guzzi owner here. This video was randomly suggested for me and now I've watched several of your videos. Love the styling, music, pacing etc. Would love to see you branch out more in to other makes/models like you did here with the Guzzi. Keep it up! Subscribed!
Thanks so much rob - appreciate it! Is yours a v7?
@@motobob 2016 V7 Stone II. Same flat black as the one in your video though.
Rob H
I’m looking at picking up a stone iii, what is your opinion? Are they as awesome as they sound, or are there fanboys a plenty, afraid to speak ill of Italian engineering? Every bike has things wrong, if these are as good as the review, and no major issues, I might have to go grab one... still undecided what the next bike will be.
Everything about this bike is great, except for the pirelli sport demon tyres. Awful, awful, awful.
I have the v9 bobber which is just a bit too much character, if the v7's you're well read mate the v9's you're well read mate recounting his travels after three too many pints. One thing I dislike in a sense is the community hah you won't hear that anywhere trust me, it's a bit culty I once got asked to kindly move my post on Facebook to the bike issues page when I asked if anyone was having 02 sensor issues, sometimes just a bit too quick to defend their loved guzzi brand if you follow me.
Really easy to service as I'm sure lots will comment I can't imagine any bike being easier actually, but when you said it would be good as a winter bike I recoiled a bit, they don't weather fabulously in my time with one (four years all seasons), but the older ones probably do. Its the electronics I'm not convinced with.
Having said all that my bike was brand new and if you know how to keep a bike well kept ie plug the exhausts when washing, grease the screw heads, acf50, keep that battery on a trickle, shelter when you can etc and the faults are ironed out yes they BECOME faultless and an old easy dog to live with.
It's a bike for an old experienced man who's been around the block, knows every trick in the book and has a garage to put it in during winter.
Im 28 and only got it because I'll never be able to afford one again perhaps.
Interesting to hear! Thanks mate. Btw I don’t think the irrational defensiveness is specific to Moto Guzzi. When I publish a video about almost any bike you’ll get some sensitive souls showing up to comment and defend their purchasing decision! You just get used to it...
Great review, I ride an older V7 Classic, but your review totally tracks with my experience (though I live in the US, and really hate riding on the interstate highways). One thing I would add that wouldn’t come up on a short test ride, is that the aftermarket support for Guzzis is much more limited than for the other modern classic bikes out there.
Thanks! Do you think that’s because there are fewer dealers?
captainmicahp It’s a numbers game. Harley and the Japanese manufacturers predominate in the marketplace and as such create a large demand for aftermarket support. The smaller manufacturers just don’t garner the aftermarket support that the big boys do.
That's weird when you work out the numbers that Harley are such small potatoes on the global market. They sell slightly *less* units per annum than the Piaggio group (Moto Guzzi); 500,000 vs 553,000.
Actually Honda Worldwide are No.1 huge, then Yamaha-India, then the Indian manufacturers taking up the next four or five slots, then the rest of the Japanese ... and then the cottage industries.
The Piaggio group is pretty big comprising, Piaggio, Vespa, Gilera, Aprilia, Moto Guzzi, etc etc and a lot of the Aprillia kit fits Guzzi, as does that from earlier 'small blocks' and they've been making them forever.
Plus there are after-market parts from Hepco & Becker, SW-Motec, Knight Design, BAAK, etc etc
Piaggio group that includes Vespa. Guzzi are made in small numbers in an old factory. Nothing wrong with that but the back up wont be the same as the larger manufacturers.
I love my Moto Guzzi V7 III Stone
Driveshaft, easy maintenance and awesome looks is what drove me to my MG V7. I looked at a triumph for the longest time but opted for a guzzi instead for all the above reasons. Honest video review, enjoyed watching it
Triumph is smoke and mirrors classic
Nice review. Also weird if you recognise the road reviewers take, you went straight past my office :)
I’ve ridden Guzzi’s for 30 years, starting with a T3, then a v50 Monza ( I still have it), a 52 Falcone and I’m rebuilding a 235 Lodola. Guzzis tend to be addictive.
Trouble is, one day you will wake up and find you are too old to ride it :(
Then you have to go out and buy a scooter. Anything to stay on two wheels before you need four to cart you around.@Theodore Marakas
Would like to compare this bike to my Ducati 797 Monster, both bikes are air cooled and have similar torque figures. Love the big tank on the V7, that’s a big selling point. Nice review 👍
Thanks RC! 👍 I’d imagine the monster will be a more sporty ride but I haven’t ridden one myself so hard to say. Definitely need to check one out some day!
Love everything about this bike apart from being stacked in 1st gear when engine is cold. Even after 5 minutes of stationary running the gearbox is still sticky. The clutch cable was adjusted during 1st service but have to go back again with this problem 😳
Could you do a Royal Enfield interceptor 650 or continental GT 650 test ride and review?
Sure when they become available in dealers which I don’t think they are yet?
Been there, chalk and cheese. The RE 650 has a lovely engine but let down by fit and finish. OMG that seat. Got a super bruise from the spike on the stand behind my calf. Sum of little things really, couldn't get comfortable on it. Compare to Guzzi, no contest. RE dealer attitude can be very variable, the current importers are a waste of milk.
Nice review of a top bike. I liked the fact that although you liked the Guzzi and it has similar spec to your present bike but you didn't see it as an upgrade to your present bike. Enjoying your reviews
Thanks Neill - appreciate it! 🙌🙌🙌
I ride one everyday. And also sell them. They are awesome!
Reliable?
@@1990-t1j hell yeah!!
How do you find the seat comfort in the long run? Seemed nice and squishy but was only on it for a couple of hours
@@motobob it's very confy! you can do a long trip with no problem! Nice straight riding position also. Only the v7 III racer would be a different case
@Theodore Marakas you can pick a seat you like to come with the bike. Every year they come out with a different one, so it depends. And you have gel options also. Some people like it how it is.
Class video, excellent editing. Kept me watching and I have no intention of buying this bike. Keep it up
Thanks mate appreciate it! Tried to keep it punchy rather than long...
Iam_moto - well then you had better get an intention of buying this bike, they are great :)
You say 48bhp and 40Nm whereas the V7 III has 52bhp and 60Nm. Quite a large difference in torque, and it's down low giving it a long power band. It's still not the most powerful in this weight range but most bikes with more produce their torque up the top with a short power band.
Having said that, the 0-60 time of the V7 II and V7 III is very similar to an 1800cc Goldwing.
Guzzi never actually published what the V7 II put out. We do know it produced the same 60Nm but 1200rpm even lower down. The power figures available vary from 48bhp to 55bhp, with variations in compression ratio which may be regional for available fuel.
The long power band lends itself to the unusual overtaking technique of changing /up/ and then opening the throttle.
what do you expect when somebody says Moto Gutsy?
The new Royal Enfield Interceptor will be a strong competitor in this segment. Looking forward to some road test comparisons when it becomes available to the public.
Agree that it will be hard for other manufacturers to compete on price with the Enfields. Hoping to test one out when I can
Price of V7iii stone here can buy almost 3x RE Interceptor! But I still choose V7iii stone. I think Moto Guzzi has more characteristic.
Fantastic Review! I love my 2017 V7 III Stone!!!
Thanks Peter glad you enjoyed it 👍
Good review. I own several bikes and the Guzzi is my favourite for cruising or even touring. The mistral exhaust makes the engine even more lively 😂
This bike has a new motor with 52 HP due to the normal pent roof cylinder head, vs the Heron head of the previous models. But they may have neglected to raise the gearing with the slight increase in grunt.
HI very good review , I am a new rider, just got my license , will this be too difficult for a beginner rider ? If yes , do you have any recommendations for me , I prefer street bike , cafe racer is my cup if tea......haha , Thanks,
Should be fine for a beginner! Easy to ride, not too powerful, but enough to keep you interested
2018 V7III Racer is my first bike. Not too difficult at all. Practice, practice, practice.
It is easy and pleasurable to ride.
Compact. Short and simple but very informative
Thanks AK!
I own a 2029 V7 III. It’s parked in my garage and whispers to me every time I walk past it ….“ride me”.
Weight , I am coming from a 650 BMW over 10 yr. ago is it comparable ?
I am a Street Cup owner and I love it... Today I went at a local dealer in town for the Guzzi V7 III Carbon, I really love it... Now I have to choose between selling the Street Cup or keep it ! The 5 speed gearbox is really missing one more speed.
I still wonder why they missed the 6th gear on the Street Twin etc. - I've read on some forums that people think it is a marketing move to distinguish the 1200 bikes from the 900. Seems a bit like a conspiracy theory to me, but it really limits the potential of the bike for longer trips.
Character over refine all day long Guzzi 100%
i really like this bike it's just a pure old school bike but with modern tech that will start every time and will be great project if that's what you like.
Toss between this and rebel 500
Hold the starter button for 3-5 seconds after its running, it shuts off the TC.
Only if you're an idiot. It has enough torque to spill the back wheel out. I've had the MGCT kick in a few times, as it should when you lose grip. It's very well set up and its behaviour is barely noticeable.
I’m a huge Guzzi fan and loved my Bellagio 940. I’m now on an Africa Twin, and might switch to a Triumph Tiger 800 XRT as a next bike (had one before and consider it possibly the best all-rounder on the market), but I always fondly remember my Guzzi and would love to have a Stone III as a smaller, rumbling, characterful and less practical second bike one day. Or maybe, just maybe, the new V85TT could tick all my boxes in one go? Can’t wait to see the reviews for that one.
The V85TT looks great! Hoping to test ride one
Tigger 800 - uncomfortable, wobbles on bends, heat comes up like an industrial hair drier into your face. The V7 handles better than the VT85TT too, lower CofG.
Can anyone help..... I've had a little 2016 lexmoto valiant 125 for a couple of years and doing my full bike test soon. Been looking at a moto guzzi v7 a lot as the seat height looks ideal for me... I'm only 5ft6....with shoes on. I like a triumph t100 or a royal enfield interceptor style bike. But 804mm seat height may be too high for me. Any other suggestions?? At that style of bike. Even a honda cb550 four I like but seat height again 805mm...
So yes, a shaft drive would ve nice
Owned 4 v7s, small bike, great secondary bike, shaft drive is fantastic, good looks, good stopping power, lacks power, we all know this, but it does get old after a while, when i dont own one, i start to miss it though, twins and shaft drive overrides the slow syndrome, lol, 6spd, traction control, and abs are all plusses, handling is great, touring on long rides get a little uncomfortable after 300 or so miles, wouldnt hesitate to buy another one to add to all the unnecessary vehicles i own
Feel the same about my Street Twin - not the fastest bike but the character of the twin keeps it fun for me
Lacks power? Acceleration is certainly on par with my mate's 1800cc Goldwing, and they're not slow. Probably quicker through bends, not that the pleasure barge is slow but it is built for comfort. That beast will tour, the V7 probably not first choice. Given 21 litres and 65mpg, 300 miles is a tank of fuel.
I have a V9 Roamer and a Honda CB1100ex. Love both of them. The Honda is 50K heavier and it shows. The Honda is like a Swiss watch the Guzzi like a cement mixer. The Guzzi is an easier ride and I do enjoy riding it. I am 82 yrs old and at a quarter of a tonne the Honda is beginning to feel a bit heavy
I have that exact model with a badass exhaust. Full joy
Which exhaust did you go for?
Mistral exhaust shorty. Take a look at my channel
I'm shaking I want this bike so badly.. Only unfortunate issue is that where I live in Virginia, there aren't many dealerships around that are close by for routine work like oil changes, etc etc. There is a dealership in Richmond Virginia, but that dealership is over 3 hours away, and I absolutely DO NOT want to deal with the cluster *uck of traffic in Richmond.
Question.. apart from dropping the sump pan to get to the oil filter, finding the correct oil filter, and required motor oil, and shaft oil.. How much maintenance is required to be done solely at a Moto Guzzi dealership?
I love my 2019 V7III. An real live dinosaur. Super simple to work on. Not a hint of over engineered job justifying gadgetry. A fine handmade machine from the shores of Lake Cuomo. Thank you Moto Guzzi.
Infact .. the Triumph is built in Thailand .. moto Guzzi in beautiful lake of Como .. no comparison sorry
For me the 850 LeMans III was the ultimate Guzzi. For those of us that were riding in the early 80's, there was little to touch it for the money. Fast, sleek, comfortable and with better handling than the Japanese bikes of the day. Mates of mine that had these always used to arrive a little less tired and flustered than the rest of us.
Now if they ever do a re issue.......
Those are such a beautiful bike! A reissue would definitely be interesting. I wonder if the retro market will move on to 80s bikes soon. I guess Suzuki already released the new Katana...
My most relaxing and least tiring ride has got to be my RE EFI-500 Classic because it is just so easy to ride, but my Guzzi V7 II is not far behind. with its longer legs. The Guzzi suspension is less sophisticated than that on the Enfield but Guzzi always handle so well they don't need fancy trick suspension. The 52bhp V7 III gains either 2 or 4 hp (depending on which V7 II spec sheet you look at) over the V7 II but the new bike has put on enough weight (some 15kg) to negate that gain (something like 7kg per hp). Peak torque on the V7 III is now some 1000rpm higher, so the length of the power band is reduced
this over the street twin but im biased as i have a new bonnie speedmaster. But as easy bike to pickup and go, guzzi v7 is #1
Speedmaster looks awesome! How is it to own?
@@motobob enough power for everything, very low fuel consumption, good brakes and decent agility for a cruiser. Rear suspension travel a bit on the short side but u can live with it. I fitted whitewall tyres and it's insta Steve mcqueen. Very refined bike, not cheapo tho
Power is : 52 HP for the latest V7 III version ,which was tested. Great bike which ist definitly an allrounder and not only for the city as mentioned. It's good in urban areas but also perfect for a daytrip to the countryside or even a week in France, if you travel without a second passenger and only small luggage.
- and 60Nm. The V7 has been 60Nm there or thereabouts since time immoral.
Problem with the V7 III is it has a significantly shorter power band than the V7 II - and they never actually told us what the power of the V7 II was, anywhere from 47bhp (books) to 55bhp (dyno).
If the V7 III has gained 2bhp it has also gained quite a bit more weight negating that.
The width of the power band on the V7 II is ridiculous, from maybe 2500 to over 7000, so you don't have to change down. It just goes. I like that, but the V7 III bogged down had to be buzzed.That torque lets the V7 haul 2-up no problem.
I don't live in a city :)
@@jeffslade1892 could be a difference in flywheel weight
It seems like my knees would be hitting the heads the whole time, doesn't that get hot?
verry very nice video ! I have the same moto !!! What's the music in the video ?
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Man.. what's up with those air cooled engines god damn
How would you compare the power of the Guzzi to your street twin?
Not a great deal in it. I think the Street Twin edges it, but the Guzzi is a bit lighter.
Is the air cool burns ur legs? I lived at tropical island summer all year long. I’m worry abt the heat..
Nice review! Thumps up. And btw, where did you bought your jacket and gloves?
Thanks Jan. the jacket is a Schott leather bomber, the gloves are Oxford Holton in tan
I like your Clips very much, short, nothing unecessary, on point. - subscriber earnt
Generally waffle is good, for test rides I enjoy this more to the point format. A lot of others' reviews are waaay too long. FWIW on my 2018 ST I don't find it too revvy at 70 in 5th and still feels like it's got enough poke if I need it, but maybe just used to it as it's my first bike. Thanks for the videos.
Thanks for the feedback Jimbo! Yeah it’s not too bad on the ST but I definitely noticed it after switching from my ER6n which had 6. Maybe it’s more pronounced when you’re a bit over 70...
@@motobob of course I couldn't comment as I never go over 70. 😉
Oh yeah... me either... just hypothetically :)
I like your revues. Can you do the big Cuzzi's?
Like a v9 bobber? Asked for one to test - hopefully in Feb or March.
Rumbling around Hammersmith on a Guzzi. Yes, please!
What is the top speed of this bike
120 miles top speed. .
If the rev limiter is at 7400 then yes, 120mph. I can neither confirm nor deny it will go 115 two-up. The rate determining factor is how long you can take the naked bike wind buffeting above 70. It's not a crotch rocket sports bike, if you feel the need to go that fast regularly, it's the wrong bike for you. Acceleration is on-par with a GL1800.
I've had my 2014 V7 from new, and really like it. My one negative feeling concerns the lack of weight in the flywheel -- and the twist-grip which has very little travel. These things combine to make the bike quite different to the earlier models, in that it lacks the smoothing effect of a heavy flywheel and much sensitivity is needed in the right wrist if you want to ride smoothly. The obverse of this is an engine that responds like a two-stroke, and a twist-grip with twice the travel would really improve the situation. Or you can dangle a finger over the brake lever to keep your hand steady.
It's all superbikes down here on the Costa, but it's my V7 that gets the admiring looks - I reckon it's a motorcyclist's motorcycle.
Some fatter grips would give you a bit more of a feeling of travel. I put biltwell torker grips on my street twin and it immediately felt different
@@motobob Yes, I've done that and it does help.
Incidentally when I picked up the bike from a dealership in Shipley, Yorkshire (more of a boutique really) it had been badly assembled, cables and levers out of adjustment etc, and was hardly rideable. The sales staff had no real knowledge of motorcycles and were full of crap. A novice rider would have thought it a terrible bike !
One can fit a different 'rotor'; that's the grip part that pulls the cables. They are available in different profiles, but for some reason MG use a shorter than normal hand grip.
If you adjust the cables to the minimum amount of slack you can get away with, then fine control is better. The rotor could use a friction damper or 'stay-open' throttle. In slow-moving traffic it can be a mite touchy, nothing, nothing, oops. The closing cable has to be adjusted too, so there's little slack, and so you have positive control of the throttle. It's cable down to the potentiometer unit but the throttle body itself is fly by wire, that adds to the dither; actuation of the throttle is probably not linear to the cable pull but to a map.
Nice but not my street twin...good fair review though
Cheers RC 🙌
This is a longitudinal motor; the crankshaft is North 'South
goooooood bike, good review.... but saying this AIRCOOLED classic beauty is "intended" to be city bike, tears my heart.
Hi Bob,
The horse power is 65.
This is the old one...
It's about time Guzzi releases a modern version of the big block Le Mans.
Would like to see that too
Agree - I had an '84 Le Mans III which was by far the best bike I ever owned...Some 30 years later I still regret selling it.@@motobob
So many reviews where folk stall as they first pull off!!! Got to say, after a test ride, the clutch is proper sensitive but still a truly great bike!!!
Sounded like he gave it no gas.
Did they finally get the fuel map correct, the highest standard of emissions in Europe in euro 4, which is above everthingeven California, the v7 II had a deadspot at 32mph to about 35 mph, annoying as hell, past 35 mph was smooth as silk, wondering if the v7 3 is linear across the throttle. Ur response is greatly appreciated ty, great review
Answered my own question, yes euro 4 is much better, larger exhaust port and head, buying another one, oh well
What happened to progress? I had a 850 Le Mans in 1978. Was a great bike. How does this compare on price with the Royal Enfield 650? Look forward to a test of that.
The Royal Enfield 650 twins are about the price of a used Guzzi V7.
By all accounts the RE twins are very good and handle well. They're A2 licence 35kW "47bhp" at 7200rpm and 52Nm at 5250rpm. The engine has been found to be very willing.
The Guzzi V7 III is available in an A2 restricted version.
The Triumph Street Twin is 900cc with significantly more power but its dry weight is the wet weight of the Guzzi.
All of these bikes are about the same weight. The Guzzi has a particularly low CofG making it feel lighter to balance, even with its 21 litre tank full.
(Having at least been up close with all of these, the RE only being a pre-production model at the time. Then having tested the V7 III and V7 II back to back, I bought the used V7 II)
Hi Bob, yeah I do like the Guzzi range in general. Like you I thing all 5 speed boxes should be consigned to history that’s operationally, emissions and ease of use. I’m looking at a good 2yr old Thruxton R with 2000miles on and track pack. I want something that goes faster, handles and stops properly. I’m looking for a new helmet and was trying to identify yours, is it a Schuberth ?
It’s just a cheap one - Spada Arc. Most days I wear a black Biltwell Gringo (they just launched an ECE compliant model) but it’s too noisy as the seal around the visor is poor and it doesn’t have a chin curtain, so i have to use the Spada for moto vlogging so you can actually hear me talk
I love your videos. Fun fact everytime you pronounce it "gOOzzi!" an Italian somewhere smiles in his heart
halfway through the video i had to google the word 'motorway'.
Haha might come in handy one day...
@@motobob Good to know in case I may visit UK or Ireland in the future
The wet weight would be higher than the competition with a 21 L tank.
The usual excellent review.
Good point. Don’t they only half fill F1 cars sometimes so they can get a few quick laps in at the start? Something to be learned... 😂
From spec sheet, wet weight(90% fuel) is 209 kg.
Thanks for doing this on my route to work.
Hey Bob. If the Street Twins chain drives you nuts in winter, you can get belt drive conversion kits for it.
The new t100 has absolutely none character seems to be a scooter smells thailand 😀 better guzzi
Hi. Would like your opinion. In my country this bike and t120 are the same price. I had test rode them both but its only a mere 5km distance. Basically bonny engine and gear are super smooth n torqy. But aesthetic need to add mods more. Guzzi gear a little bit clunky n less torqy. But aesthetic is good. Barely any mod needed. But since you are a more experience rider, would like to know your opinion
I would take the T120 any day! More power and twin front discs
@@motobob wow. Super fast reply. Thx for reply n subscribed
the two bikes are on a different grid, of course T120 has more power and a double disk, but brake system became stressed early, the power and torque are higher but very smooth, also T120 weight more and is less agile than V7, and is a bit less comfortable, because handlebar is a bit too low, but again, it depends on your primary use. If you plan to do long motorways trips, then the T120 is better, if you need to drive in the traffic, the V7 is a winner.
@@rupertherbert594 thx for your feedback. Handlebar is not an issue, because i can simply replace it. Traffic use is about 40% usage for me. The rest is highway and country and twisties
the triumph is built in thailand while the guzzi is italian, enough said for a retro bike, one is pure marketing and design, the other is a family product old over half a century
The V7 III has 52HP and 60 N/m torque
Huge tank! Definately worth a look. Good review.
Cheers LBA! You well?
@@motobob Yes thanks! Just bummed that we have so much snow today. Winterized my ride for the next 6 months. Wah wah😭
Yeah - apparently it’s about to get cold next week. I hate winter commutes! And the dark too...
@@motobob Do they ever salt the roads in London? It's the reason I just put it away here. Even if we do get a break in the weather, the road salt is so plentiful that it'll rust the bike away.
Yeah I avoid riding when there’s salt until it’s rained and washed away, but that’s usually only a few weeks each year tbh
no sound check? :(
Great video! Moto guzzi here as well. I own a v7ii special with full scrambler kit. I love it. The only thing i dislike about the bike is the wobbly feeling you get cornering it.
Thanks! I found my street twin to be a bit wallowy in the corners until I upgraded the suspension. Not too expensive to do both forks and shocks from Hagon
Kinder...what about finding the neutral ? It's complicated ....what do you do to get better into the neutral ?
Knobbly tyres will do that. Shod with Avon Roadrider it corners like a cat on rails.
@@hugoescudero8740 - not complicated, just pull the clutch right in, especially if the engine is hot.
I'd like to like Guzzis like the Stone, but there are two things so glaringly "off" that I can't. One is the single disc in front. While I understand that it might be adequate for 80% of all riders and conditions,it won't cut it when you ride the bike hard. The second is that it's slow. In a more exotic bike that might be bearable, but in this one it's just a drag. And why is it that Guzzi made probably the most reliable "superbike" of its era (the 850 LeMans) but now makes a similar-looking machine with much lower performance?
I see what you're saying, but if you want a fast bike with good brakes at this price point then you would probably be better off going for something modern like a Yamaha XSR don't you think? This bike is more about low key riding than performance.
If you want more performance get a Griso
GOOOOOZI...=))
I want one! 🤩
Does Guzzi still find it necessary (and absolutely inconvenient) to put the oil filter “inside” the oil pan?!
Not any more it's easy peasy.
had one for about a year. it was so uncomfortable after 30min ride and highway wind was beating my chest. around town is an ok bike. i dont recommend it. oil leaks are common.
If you don't like the highway wind on your chest, they now make these things called cars that you might want to look into.
Highway wind beating you? Seriously?!? With all that instrument cluster protecting you???
And owning one, still waiting to find an oil leak....
Mg makes very nice bikes no question...