The simple answer to your confusion is that the Italian's are too hard headed to listen to other's suggestion's. Over here in the State's, there are few company representative's to handle people's problem's not to mention trying to get part's in any kind of a timely manner. And this was @ pre-covid, so imagine the nightmare in which you will deal with today. It's really a shame as they are a beautifully manufactured machine. We Guzzi guy's over here ( I own two ), say that these bike's are the best kept secret. Once the head's are re-torqued 2 time's these bikes are virtually bulletproof. Lack of dealership's are also a main problem for M.Guzzi over here & there are many reason's for this, all of which the company is aware of/or should be by now. But they simply don't give a damn. And that is why people buy other bike's. Good dealership's sponsoring your product's, access of part's & mechanic's to work on your bike's are the (3) main key's to a successful company & that my friend is why you see very few M.G. here in the State's. So in essence M.G. has failed us over here & receive an F for a grade. Have a great day from you friend on the other side of the pond!!!!!!! Illinois, USA
I would add to that dealing with Piaggio USA for customer service / warranty issues is very difficult. And I second finding a dealer mechanic in the states who actually knows Moto Guzzi's. If you buy a Moto Guzzi in the US, plan on doing your own maintenance and understand the warranty is pretty much a useless. The V85 TT is a great bike in every respect but you're on your own in a waste land of support. Even though BMW's are outrageously expensive at least you can find support and there's a good after market for parts.
As someone who just came back to riding after a 16 year hiatus and bought the 2021 Moto Guzzi V7 Centenario, I can definitely relate to this. I bought with my heart and not my brain. Hopefully it doesn't bite me in the end. Nearest dealer to me is 3 hours each way.
@@geneclarke2205 This is eye opening- the feedback from the US on Guzzi aftercare and support has been atrocious! I've heard nothing but bad things Thanks very much for sharing this, Gene. Really appreciated🙂
I am 26 years old and I own a Guzzi t5 850 of the Italian police of 1986. I have never experienced so many emotions on a motorcycle. It has almost 40 years old and 100000 km but has still an immense reliability. I can't understand how we Italians never manage to enhance our brands. Now in Italy you only see bmw gs despite having competitive brands in my opinion much more beautiful . Greetings from Italy . Long live to Moto Guzzi
It is stupid. It is like start eating bratwurst instead pizza. I have such a place in my heart for Italian bikes. To produce such you must sell. So if even Italians dont buy their own brands what will be the future.
Currently own a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 cc that I have had for 20 years. Once took me 120 miles on one cylinder at highway speed when one spark plug wire crapped out on a Sunday morning with no shops open. At almost 70 years old it has gotten too heavy to maneuver in and out of situations. Purchased a 2013 Moto Guzzi V7 Stone at more than 100 pounds less wet weight. Absolutely love it. Will stay with Moto Guzzi for the rest of my riding life. I have owned BMW, Laverda, Ducati, Moto Morini, Triumph, BSA, Zundapp, Indian, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Cagiva and loved them all for different reasons, but the fact that I can physically handle the weight of a bike that will cruise (illegally) at 85-90 mph for as long as I need, looks good, is reliable and affordable and unique, why shop anywhere else?- -Mike Battle
Freddie’s reviews of motorcycles is different from any other motorcycle journalist because he goes into the emotional aspect of the bikes. He goes so deep and tries to see the bike from the average enthusiasts perspective.
I find the waffle frustrating, for a review the intro was excruciatingly content free. Fortunately that gorgeous Guzzi was in shot the whole time so not all bad😊.
Different alright…..a lot of talk but very little of it is meaningful or of technical content. Probably a nice guy but not very knowledgable about bikes….
Rider with over 40 years (& 40 bikes) experience here with a 2003 FLHR filled with Screamin Eagle parts. A barrel of laughs but not much use for the daily commute. I recently (like, last week) bought a 2016 V7ii with 7500km on the clock & here's why. The Triumphs are modern bikes that look kind of retro. They go, stop & turn corners like a modern bike. They have modern bike manners. And they have modern bike appeal ie. None. Then there's the Royal Enfields. They felt like they were built to a price. There's nothing really wrong with them but they always felt like the "poor cousin". Then there's the Guzzis... They are, for all intents & purposes, just like their ancestors. Sure, they have ABS & traction control but they "feel" like the bikes built when I was a lad without all the shortcomings. And they tick all the boxes - Air-cooled pushrod V-twin? Check. Twin shocks? Check. Spokes? Check. Comfortable riding position that doesn't make your neck or back hurt after a long day in the saddle? Check! All this plus a shaft drive. Not a retro motorcycle but authentic motorcycle & that's what tipped me over the edge. In the end, it was an easy decision. I bought the classiest machine on the market & I doubt anyone could convince me to part with it. Guzzista for life. Viva Moto Guzzi!
Went to a Royal Enfield Dealer that was sharing the building with a Vespa Dealer. I stumbled across Moto Guzzi's in the Vespa section and instantly dropped my jaw at their beauty. I genuinely felt ashamed for not knowing about them. Their appearance truly is drop dead gorgeous. I came in for an RE and still walked out of the dealer with an RE Meteor 350, but the first impression MG has made to me is one I'll never forget. One that if given enough time to sink into my heart and fester my soul...I may just be back for the MG the next time I visit! EDIT: I own a Moto Guzzi Flying Fortress now LESGOOOOOOO
Being a Guzzi owner, the biggest downfall is lack of dealer support. Unless you live close to a dealer it puts a lot of people off. If they worked out more dealerships I think it could sell in much higher numbers.
totally happy with the Interceptor.. easy to maintain. I love the Bonneville's fit and finish but to me it isn't worth an extra 5K, and besides, I know nothing about bucket and shim!
I test rode both the Bonneville T120 and Interceptor 650 and I own both the Moto Guzzi V7 III Special and the new V7 850 Special. The T120 felt very ponderous, much less agile than I had expected; a common complaint of the reviewing journalists. The T100 is supposedly more agile, but may be too smooth. I don’t like the liquid-cooling of the T120, although they did a good job hiding it. Also there were reports of failing gearboxes, which kept me away from buying (I assume that has finally been solved with the recent updates). Apart from all that I think the Bonneville looks stunning with great attention to detail. I still think Triumph should have made the Kawasaki W800, which is closer to the original. I was not that impressed by the Interceptor. For the price a great bike (although prices have gone up considerably recently and here in the Netherlands they are only a bit cheaper than the Kawasaki W800, which I think is a much nicer bike). While the Bonneville is made in Thailand and the Interceptor in India, the W800 is made in Japan and the V7 in Italy. I still value when a product is made in the original country, especially if it has such a heritage. The V7 Stone is the rebel of the two, the Special is the more elegant classic version with lots of chrome and an extra tachometer. The V7 is not only a very characterful bike with a nice exhaust sound and good vibrations, but also very practical one with the large 21 litre fuel tank and the shaft drive. At 6’3” the bike is a bit small for me, but still of all my (many) bikes the V7 is my favourite (okay, after my 1956 BMW R50 that is). I think that the main reason that these bikes are not sold in big numbers is the bad marketing of Moto Guzzi and Piaggio. In Italy the client is not king, it is considered a favour that you as a customer can buy their products..
Great comment, bottom line is there's genuine authenticity and honesty with an Italian made Guzzi and its engine design heritage, something that the others pretend to have but are lacking.
Loved your last line. You hit the nail square on the head. That's along the same line as what I said in my comment to Freddie. I can read that the consensus of the people's comment's have a good understanding to it's uniformity.
Fast Eddy great comment but I'm not too bothered that in 2022 manufacturers have factorys producing their bikes in other countries. My Honda is made in Thailand, still a great bike as is the Ducati Scrambler, also made in Thailand. And my Nissan car is Japanese but made in England. Nope, no problem with it at all if the build quality is there.
Fascinating! And your point on Guzzi and Kawasaki made in their countries if origin- this is an important factor for quite a few bikers I can see (I do understand that). Thank you so much!
I have owned my V7 for 4 years and still enjoy it. Only problem is lack of dealers, very rare to see another Guzzi but I kind of like that. Great bike for me.
I recently sold my Bonneville and bought a V7 Classic wich has the spoked wheels and lots of chrome. Do i miss my Bonneville?Yes,but this bike has much more character and the sound coming from stock exhaust pipes is addictive. I ride the Guzzi much more frequently than i did the Bonneville,and although not a perfect bike,if such a bike exists,i totally fell in love with riding all over again.
@@FreddieDobbs I went from V7 II to a 2019 Bobber Black, I am happy with most parts but I really miss the shaft drive of the V7ii, the power deliver of the shaft is immediate without delay, I also miss the song of the 2v V twin.
Just found a low low mileage 2017 v9 bobber for a good price. It's absolutely beautiful can't wait to bring her home this week. Have a GS , 2 Harleys and other bikes no bike I've ridden gives u the feeling of a guzzi
This month, I bought a 2023 V7 special and I absolutely love it. Finally, I know what the Guzzi charm and soul is all about. It’s a wonderful traveling companion. As much as I loved my 2013 Bonnie, I can’t say that it tugged at me the same way as the Moto Guzzi. Cheers!
Thanks for the review Freddie! I was “this” close to buying the Bonneville exactly one year ago for all the reasons you mentioned regarding the triumph…and then I stumbled upon the exact same V7. I was drawn to the lines, the styling and it drew me down a rabbit hole and did research on the brand and then joined a Guzzi Forum and fell in love with the Guzzi community and of course Ewan McGregor’s affiliation played no small part, and before I knew it I pulled the trigger and bought my very own Sophia. 7051km later, I’m totally and madly besotted with this motorcycle. It’s more than the sum of its parts. It’s the smile it gives me, the people and Guzzi community and the smiles I get from onlookers, it’s the right leaning throb from the engine like no other, it’s the huge mileage you get from the 20litre tank it’s ..a Guzzi. So why doesn’t it sell? I think it’s economy of scale - each Guzzi is still made in the very same factory in Mandello on lake Como. It’s a niche brand and a niche bike. I think Piaggio purposefully positions this brand and it’s product to be niche (which is a rare strategy in this day and age) and uphold Guzzi as a brand making bikes for those who want to be part of a happy community. Long may it last
I agree as to your reason they don't sell huge numbers. If not mistaken the entire Guzzi workforce consists of less than 100 employees,and average annual production is around 9000 bikes per year,all models in a good year....and all assembly almost completely done by hand. This will most likely change in near future when addition to current factory is complete,but then again,the exclusivity,and reasonable low numbers out on the roads, makes owning a Guzzi even more special.
@@eltonl473 100% agree. The limited production and output is apt for this brand and it’s bikes to be truly niche. Additionally, as they are made “the old fashioned way” they come with wonderful quirks that only Guzzista’s appreciate :) a GS fan will immediately point out a series of details that they will label as faults whereas a Guzzi rider embraces those as part of the experience - like the right lean whilst revving the engine or the lag in the gear signaling on the dial. To each their own but what ultimately sold me on buying into Moto Guzzi are the people who form a totally rad community. I honestly don’t think there is another bike fraternity as close knit as the Guzzi folks the world over. The forums are incredibly helpful, fun and appreciative of this great brand but with absolutely no snobbery whatsoever (most of them have other bikes - especially Bonnie’s).
I totally do not believe in your theory of this being a "niche" bike build. At least not for here in the USA. Please read my comment to Freddie in this long list of comment's. You will also find other's who share in my view. But with that said, belief is in the eye of the beholder; so you are entitled to believe that what you may. Have a great day!! Illinois, USA
Hi Larry You bring an interesting perspective. Having read yours and other comments I consider myself very lucky as the lack of dealership and maintenance support never was a problem for me in my experience. We have an AD with full maintenance support right around the corner. Having said that, I’d certainly think twice about buying a Guzzi if there was no back up available so your points are pretty relevant. Luck of the draw, I guess. Still, the charm is definitely there. What’s really baffling is what Freddie mentioned about the popularity of the GS’s in Italy and the apparent lack of Guzzi’s and Ducatis on the roads in Italy .. surely the issues surrounding the supply chain and dealerships don’t exist there?
@@mikekamler Hi Mike, I can see & feel your passion in the Guzzi's when reading through your comment's. I too, as well as a good number of the respondent's share in/with your feeling's. When you have no support system near you, you have to educate yourself somehow. Please see the comment that I typed to (frase32), under my initial comment about M.G. lack of caring, support,part's & etc here in the States. I am somewhat mechanically inclined & take care of what I can. But there have been times that I put my bike/bikes on the trailer & drive 5hrs. away to a real Guzzi motorhead guy. There's nothing that he can't fix on a Guzzi. That's how picky I am about who work's on my ride. Plus he's a good friend & we get together for a meal between the job. I then drive that 5hrs home with bike/bikes in tow. Then it's rare that I have future problem's. A good amount of preventative maintenance has been done since the beginning of bike ownership. I have yet to be stranded on the road except for maybe a flat tire or two; but any descent shop can fix that. PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE is the main key to successful operation in all mechanical equipment. Have a great day Mike & happy Guzzi riding in this new year!!! Illinois, USA
I had a 2013 V7 Stone and to date it's still one of my all-time favorite bikes. It oozes character and charm and was so much fun to ride. I just bought a new bike and the primary reasons it _wasn't_ a Moto Guzzi was 1) I wanted something that'd be more comfortable for a passenger and 2) easy access to a repair shop. The closest Guzzi dealer is 2 hours away from me and that wasn't tenable. It's truly a shame, because I love the v7's and the new v100's are mouth watering.
I love your enthusiasm for this motorcycle. In my opinion the Moto Guzzi doesn’t sell like hot-cakes because they weren't meant to. If you buy one you aren’t looking at what it’s trade in value will be, but who you will pass it down to in your will. It was engineered for the long haul. They’re easy to maintain, simple to repair and can last for generations. That’s rare in a world overflowing with disposable razor blades and empty soda pop bottles. I’ve done a lot of dreaming and reading about owning a Moto Guzzi, but have hesitated due to the lack of dealers and rumors of sketchy parts supply lines, but I am a big fan. Until then I’ll keep riding my 1981 Honda CB900 Custom, which I consider the proto sport-touring machine.
I own a V35 from 1978 (basically the same bike from back than with only 35 HP) and your words about maintainence and repairing are so true. You can get to basically everything yourself. You can even take one apart, switch the gearbox and put it back together in under 2 days.
The video was great but the comments below are even better .. SO many reasons to love this bike as a lifetime rider (since 1966) ..I am one of the lucky few who has a nationally renowned dealer and shop 25 miles from my home here in Connecticut (Have a look at Jim Hamlin Motors Bethel CT story) .. The parts problem is a hit or miss gamble and my biggest worry .. Thank you for an hour of great reading below . Anyone deciding on this bike will have some great answers in the stories below ..All the best from New England
I have owned a V85 since May last year, initially, it was what you would call an impulse buy as it just looks stunning, like nothing else that is out there, but as many others stated, I fell in love with the Guzzi charm and are now shopping actively for a V7 Racer. I can see the dealer network as a deterrent for some folks, but then again, owning a Guzzi gives so much back, and it's almost like a lifestyle. I cannot tell you how many people have complimented me on my Guzzi or just walked up and wanted to talk about the bike. No other bike I owned (and I owned a few ... lol) has gotten the same reaction. I will also say, so far the V85 has been dead reliable. I mean, a virtual mx free shaft drive, no radiator or plumbing to deal with, and a very proven design, a great recipe for long-term reliability!
@@Jan-mu6vs First service is at 900 miles and then every 6000 miles thereafter. I am past 1 year now of ownership and still dead reliable with no issues. I did do a few modifications and it has taken to it nicely.
@@Jan-mu6vs I replaced the stock exhaust with a Mistral/Agostini Setup, came out amazing. You can check it out on my channel, I have several Videos about it.
My V7iii is 5 years old with original battery. Shaft oil leaked but it can be fixed with industrial machine seal which very easy to find. Brake pad is dirt cheap. I never use any external oil lube to any part of it, finally side-stand was stuck. After 20 bikes own, my V7 is the most reliable bike with potential. It was small and agile for rush hour ride and I just put 1685km on it within 27hrs with no issue.
Moto Guzzi caught my eye about 2 years ago. Then I delved into the companies history. For me, a great looking bike with the heritage that is important, to me anyway. I look forward to owning one. My present ride in the Interceptor 650. Thanks again for the review Freddy and to Monica for her great filming / edits. You two are great!
I’ve been riding since the early seventies and have owned many brands, many styles along the way. Over the decades, I have often considered buying into Moto Guzzi . I’ve coveted their cruisers, standards, sport and adventure touring bikes. But each and every time, their lack of USA dealer and parts support causes me to move on. Their bikes are absolutely beautiful/brilliant.
Went on my Tenere 700 for a test ride on the Guzzi and couldn't believe how slow it was. I realise it's not a sports bike but 52 bhp in a heavy bike with power sapping shaft drive simply isn't enough. When I got back on my T7 it felt like a missile.
I own a 2019 V7 III Special, and I am in love with it. It's no mass-produced Yamaha, but a strong, elegant, and unique motorcycle that gets compliments almost everywhere I go. The build quality is first rate, and it feels as solid as a rock. I'm in the process of accessorizing it with accessories from the Italian company Givi, and it's shaping up into a highly-functional work of art.
Original owner of a Black/Green ‘93 1000S, and it is the coolest bike I’ve owned. These V7’s harken back to that, which harkened back to the original V7.
I’ve been riding motorcycles my entire life. I’ve recently purchased my first Moto Guzzi, a black v9 Bobber for a steal. I’m in love! I’ve owned a 2015 Triumph Scrambler (her name was Beatrice) but the Guzzi (Giatta) has shaft drive, anti lock brakes and a sixth gear (and in the case of the v7iii you rode, huge tank capacity! No more messing with the horrendous triumph seat latch and rusty spokes in the Triumph. The Guzzi’s grow on you over time. If you were able to keep one for a couple weeks you wouldn’t give it back 😜. The biggest flaw in the U.S. is poor dealer network and marketing. I’ve loved my BMWs, Harley, Triumph, etc but the Guzzi is my favorite. The seat is too small on my v9 so I’m having a triumph style bench seat made by Rich’s custom seats. An aftermarket exhaust transforms many bikes but especially a Moto Guzzi. Fun video as usual. Thank you. I don’t mean to diss on Triumph, I loved mine but love the Moto Guzzi much more. Comparing apples to apples feel like you get more smiles, reliability and more for your money. Cheers !
@@molaval5832 I’ll be honest with you. I’ve owned many motorcycles and I would say the Guzzi was one of my very favorites. I just couldn’t get comfortable so I got frustrated and sold it. If it fits you, go for it but it you feel cramped I would move on. Good luck!
I think this is one of those bikes that are just too special for Joe Public to appreciate fully. Like a genuinely premium suit which genuinely wealthy individuals buy, but does not in any way scream "I overspent on this" like a typical designer brand. All the detail is there to tell you that it's something special, but you've got to look for it to find it.
Moto Guzzi's have a certian "feel" to them that can't be described on paper, you have to experience it for yourself. There's something about lumpy 2V twins that make them particularly enjoyable for general cruising around. IMO they're not more popular because people don't really know about Moto Guzzi in the first place, also, the 750cc V7's had a reputation for being painfully slow (48HP? Come On! my 1981 V50 III had 48HP!). I was so stoked in Moto Guzzi updated the V7 to a 63HP 850cc, now we're talking! I might actually pick up one of these bikes now.
I have one of the new 850cc ones. It's quick enough even with my gf on the back, and an absolute joy to ride. A few quirks, but that's just Italian character IMO
@DoctorMotorcycle;- I totally agree. So, even when my 1980 850 LeMans 'plays up' a little (which she is prone to doing), I still forgive her. To me, they're closer to having a personality than any other make of motorcycle. In fact, many makes don't have any personality at all.
It's popular with me! My '23 V7 Special is sitting in my garage waiting for my next ride! 4,300 miles in 5 months since owning her. White with special red stripe. Gorgeous!
Hi Freddie, I bought a used one same model as you tested earlier this year. For me it was a toss up between an Interceptor, Triumph street twin and the V7. The triumph has the best motor but the V7 is more authentic in this genre. Decision for me came down to which one I could find for the best deal and I was fortunate to find a low mileage V7 stone. I live in the UK and use it for occasional commute to the office and weekend rides in the country lanes and up and down the coast. It could do with a few extra horses and maybe the 850 is the answer, but I haven’t ridden that one yet, however if it had more power I just ride it faster and that’s not the point of this bike. Riding the V7 just makes you chill out and enjoy the scenery. Why don’t they sell more, probably because people look at the specs and just go for the Triumph or the Interceptor as it fits in the A2 slot, however if people took the trouble to test ride one, as I did, then you get a different view that what you assume from the spec sheet. Thanks for posting your review…
I am now too old and grey to ride, but when I did I loved Guzzi and Morini bikes.... There is a feeling that you get on them that is somehow "other". Looking back, I slightly suspect there was a degree of snobbery on my part...... Anyway... Morini are long gone but Guzzi still make what seems very like a T3. I chuckle when I see so many male riders (of a certain age) riding these things in slightly retro open-face helmets. It suggests a certain self-regard. Anyway.... I think I would be wobbling around on a Guzzi today if I was still on a motorcycle. Or even better..... a restored T3 or V50 or maybe even a V1000 Spada.
You mentioned Bonneville, V7, Interceptor 650... I would add the Kawasaki W800. It is also a modeenized classic bike that follows along the same lines of the previous three. The W800 has the looks, a great sounding exhaust, and adds Japanese reliability into the mix.
In the states, Moto Guzzi dealers are few and far between whereas even Royal Enfields have taken up residence at every Harley dealer. The shaft drive is something that I think scares some riders away, whereas is you pile on the miles in all kinds of weather like I do, shaft drive is the way to go. I love the simplicity of the air-cooled v-twin shaft drive combo. It is so simple and yet creates such raw emotion in the rider.
I had a Guzzi 30 years and was super happy with it. Now I'm so happy to own a V9 Bobber, 2020 model. Moto Guzzi are so special in a positiv way 🤩🤩 Once you bought one you' ll stay with the Brand forever. ❤️🤩
As Italian in Italy (now) who started riding a proper bike on a Guzzi Florida 350cc, 30 years ago... I guess the answer to your question is because italians normally don't think big as americans or other countrie's businessman... We also dont trust enough our sources... Most of italians didn't live abroad for more than a month and they don't picture how much people like our genuine style... I used to work in tavel industriy but almost all my colleagues used to ask me for shopping with them if they wanted to impress on a date! If any of the italian entrepreneur would have been through this, they would probably bet more on their Italian brand, whaever their business would be... Last but not least, the first step should be being supported by the "family" but in Italy, gelousy starts there: Most of our big players fall when they come to the point of 2nd generation...
I have a V7 III Racer, love that thing. Rumbling exhaust note with some nice gear whine. Looks are absolutely stunning. For me the 52HP is sufficient for fun riding.
IMO, the V7 is one of the best looking bikes on the road. I'd love a V7 Centenario with the dual gauges and wheels from the Special. As many have said, the subpar dealer network and lack of advertising are the main issues but I think they are still selling every bike they make.
They have many leftovers but in good Italian fashion, year of production means nothing. I bought my 2017 V9 bobber in 2018 brand new at MSRP but with free financing. Eventually, they sell all their bikes.
A v7iii Milano owner here. I went to buy a Bonneville at the local (Singapore) dealer here, but they are also the outlet for Moto Guzzi. I came away with my Milano and have absolutely no regrets. Similar in so many ways, but so stylish and I love the sound it makes, and the feel at low revs. I am a relatively new motorcyclist, and this is great as a first bike. It is actually my second - and certainly much better find than my first- that was a Honda CB500 :-). They are not common, so when someone (Italian) saw me on mine here and shouted out “MOTO GUZZI” as a rode past it put a smile on my face. I learned to drive (a car) in a Citroen 2CV. I have a thing for two cylinder air cooled engines. The Guzzi’s is bigger than that 2CV and gets me from A to B in just about as much comfort.
The main reason Guzzi doesn't sell as well as it should is pretty much the appalling dealership network and marketing the world over. I have a V9, and have been to the Mandello del Lario factory and museum many times. The passion they have there at the factory and museum simply doesn't translate through Piaggio and the dealer network. At least Moto Guzzi are still made in Italy, unlike Ducati and other Italian brands.
Ducati is made in Italy lol, i live 20kms from the factory. And all the local small industries produce the spare parts that go to that factory. We can argue about the reliability of Ducati, but not about the fact where it's made.
@@DerpEye Yes, yes, I've been to the factory in Bologna... But Ducati for Australia, New Zealand and Asia are made in Thailand, The Scrambler range, Monster, Multistrada amongst other models are made in Thailand. That's a fact.
Defeantly agree on the marketing. In this smaller Canadian city I didn’t even know we had a dealer here. I went in looking for another bike and they also had Guzzi’s.
I’m thinking of buying that bike (2023) with the 850cc engine. I love your enthusiasm for motorcycling and while I’m in between one at this time, and your emotional connection to motorcycles in general is always good to see.
Firstly I would just like to say that I like your bike review. In a world of UA-cam "hype" I thought your review was honest, simple and to the point. I live in Montreal, Canada and I've owned two Triumph Scramblers, one early carbureted, the later FI. Although I love the style and sound of the Scrams, Triumph support here is very sparse and both bikes were not without a few quirks to sort out. The one main dealer sells the bikes at a huge "premium" mark up as does the one MG/Piagio dealer. The bottom line is that here with a shorter riding season, if you don't do your own maintenance, the cost of riding is huge. Even though there are more Japanese dealers, they never have any stock for parts and anything you need has to be ordered. This coming season I'm looking for a used V7 because I'm comfortable with the tappet valve adjusters, shaft drive and huge fuel tank. I also have to give the Italians over the British extra points for creating a more modern "authentic" classic.
I just bought a 2018 V7iii carbon (the black bike with the bright red cylinder heads covers). Loving it so far. My only big modifications: I’m replacing the red cylinder head covers with black and I’m going to raise the seat by a few inches by adding extra padding. The stock seat is a bit too low for me at 6’1”. If the seat is an inch or 2 higher it will be perfect.
People who want a Guzzi knows how to get one and what the machines are all about. Guzzi don’t have massive marketing budgets; if you don’t know the brand or don’t one of their marvellous bikes, that’s fine, Guzzi will just shrug their shoulders and think ‘ your loss’….As an aside, they are marvellous bikes.
You put out good content. Your enthusiasm is exactly matched to what many motorcyclists feel when they have to buy a bike. it is a tough choice with so many factors. I like how you cover all bases when you review.
Hi mate I'm Italian and live in Tuscany,I had a couple Guzzis in the past, I had a couple Triumphs as well and four BMWs, you say you'd seen only BMW GSs rambling arund in Tuscany's roads...i wonder were you been ;-) Yeah BMW Gs is pretty loved over here but not the way you tell, evetytime I go out with my bike I see loads of Ducatis,lesser Guzzis of course but not so many GSs as you say. The main reason why Guzzi does not have top sells (even though is well positioned these days) is mainly because they never updated the "old engine" until 2022 of course,there's only one model with the new liquid cooled twin still but I'll expect a wide range of new models along the year and for the future. This should have been done years ago unfortunately, because apart from the engine, frame/handling/brakes are much better than any pricey Modern Classic Triumph over there. Peace and Love!
I was between a V7 and a Street Twin. I wanted the Guzzi but, after test riding both, I went with the Triumph. I’ve never forgotten about the Guzzi and will probably get one someday. But I just felt like the Triumph has better fit and finish and made me feel like a king riding my first bike. A small, but significant, factor was also that the Guzzi gear position reminder disappears when the clutch is disengaged. I understand that mechanically, but I want to know the gear I’m in as I’m pulling up to an intersection with the clutch pulled in. Love the Guzzi, am Italian and will likely get one someday, but I also love my Street Twin.
I bought mine in 2008. Later I have added 8 more motorcycles but cannot even think about selling this one. It’s pure, raw driving pleasure. Long distance or short commutes. More reliable than a Honda and far more character.
I'm in the Midwest USA. Bought a 2 year old leftover V7 a few years ago. Other than an intermittent O2 sensor problem that didn't affect anything, and a fairly narrow power band, I really liked the bike. It looked good, it sounded good, and it was pretty comfortable. It's also sportier in the turns than I thought it'd be. However, the dealer I bought it from told me my front tire feeling off balance was because "my tire pressure was a little low". Took it to my local, non-Guzzi dealer and they took the wheels off and found a flat spot in the front tire from sitting for 2 years and not being moved (a new Continental tire fixed it right up). Then the next spring the dealer I got the bike from stop selling Guzzi and wouldn't even service them anymore. Next closest dealer was about 1.5 hours away and I have no way of trailering it if something happens. So I traded it in and got a Honda. If I had a garage I'd have thought about keeping it and buying a shop manual, but I don't, so I didn't.
I love my Guzzi V7 in the beautiful metallic Giallo paint, one of the most characterful and well proportioned bikes evwr made. It gets no end of compliments and it can shift...I have no trouble keeping up with my Riding buddies on their much more powerful bikes. The low down torque feels like you are being swept along, almost like you feel in a Mercedes. The shaft drive is a lovely thing to live with, no chain tension or waxing.... brilliant! More people should consider them, excellent bikes.
I'd much rather have one of these than a Bonneville. Great low-down torque, shaft drive. Seat height is a bit low, but it is on the Street Twin. 780 mm versus 790 mm for the Triumph. But it doesn't look too small for you, Freddie. We are the same size and weight, just about. The newer MG is a fair bit quicker than the one you're on. There is a dealer near where I live when I'm in Portugal. Another great video.
Excellent video as always! Speaking for 'Guzzi lovers here in Seoul, Korea there is only 1 showroom and therefore 1 official service center here in Seoul, a city of 15 million. And there is practically no adverts or marketing anywhere in the Korean media. Its almost as if they're ashamed to show their faces! Of course there are 1 or 2 independant garages that can repair a more modern Moto Guzzi (forget CX's, T5's, Lario's, Monza's, etc) but they are ALWAYS waiting for parts from Italy. Which is a shame, because they're genuinely cool bikes.
The 2021 and on 853cc V7's are really great! Between the T100 & Int it is the only choice if you want to LST . Over the T100 it has a 5.5 gal (21 litre) tank, 6 speed gearbox that does 90mph / 145kph indicated at a leisurely effort, shaft driven, a better seat & riding position + the 4- pot Brembos up front.
I am a 5'4" lady in my 50's. I have had my Guzzi VIII Stone for just over a year and absolutely love it. The low centre of gravity makes it easier for me to manoeuvre and feels really solid and grounded. It's looks are fantastic. Commenting on why people don't buy them, I bought mine second hand with only 250 miles on the clock. This seems to be a common occurrence with many v7's for sale with low mileage. On the point of getting replacement parts, my husband and I had our bikes stolen in Edinburgh in June, after an amazing trip around the NC500. I was lucky enough to have the Guzzi recovered, (my husband's Versys is still missing). I have been waiting about a month now for a replacement key and lock set. None are available in the UK and my local Guzzi dealership cannot confirm when my order will arrive??? Cost to replace the keys and lock, about £210 😱
My Motor Guzzi V7 did 200,000 Kms before I retired. I referred to it as my "Urban Assault". Incredible for city traffic. It is the world's best kept secret. Wherever I aimed my headlights, I knew my "urban assault" would get me back. I did not need any grandiose talk up about other bike This tester is "Bonneville bedonered". Moto Guzzi owners do not have much time for other bikes - that is to say that when person buys a car / bike / anything they have specific ideals that make up "the checkbox". Moto Guzzi is "that" bike which I will not look beyond. It is everything I need in what I choose to be a good road user and religious biker, Nuff said!
I bought a MotoGuzzi V7 III Milano in 2021 as my first MotoCycle and i really love it since. Loved your video too because everything you say about this bike is true.
Hi from Perth W.Australia. I can’t walk out of a shop, helmet in hand, or just motorcycle jacket on, without someone asking if the Moto Guzzi is mine. It’s makes me very happy 😊. Also the fact that it’s a 2012 V7 Stone purchased in 2019 for $6000 aus and I have now seen them on sale for $9000 plus. Side note, Royal Enfield manufactured in India, Moto Guzzi manufactured in Italy, Triumph manufactured in ?? 😉
My partner has a 2006 Moto Guzzi Nevada (750cc_) and she has had a lot of trouble finding mechanics to work on her bike as they often tell her that Guzzi's are hard to work on. But since we moved from the Pacific Northwest (Washington) to South Dakota, we have remedied that problem finding lots of service here for any bike. She always gets tons of compliments for its looks!
Very good and balanced review - good work. I am lucky enough to have 4 completely different bikes in my garage but the V7 is always my first choice - it's just so easy to ride. I love the classic styling and easy maintenance and although they are not for everyone the exude a certain charm. My one and only reason for not buying the Bonnie over the Guzzi was as per your observation the Bonnie was more refined and I like my bikes to feel like they are actually doing something underneath me. The beauty of this great hobby is that personal choice is alive and well :)
As an Italian I can openly tell that most of Italians have a very poor fantasy when choosing a bike or a car and that fantasy has a name: BMW, you nailed it. I like Guzzi, MV Augusta, Harley Davidson, Triumph. Like in Italy and here in the USA people buy BMW because everyone does and it is related on “people who made it in life” for some reason but if you buy a Guzzi people think that you are a vintage weirdo with no style nor class.
Thanks for this video, I’m with you on this subject. I have a Moto Guzzi V7 Mk111 Special with wire wheels. It is the bike that for me includes more motorcycling passion than almost every other bike on the market today, mine is a keeper. Pity about the Italians obsession with the GS, I thought they had more taste than that. The GS is a valid bike but does not inspire me anywhere near as much as the Moto Guzzi or Ducati brands.
I stumbled on this video and I have to comment. Being an Italian I have to. Many Italians prefer buying BMW or Honda simply because they are reliable motorbikes, that's IT! We are (in Italy) all aware of how old Guzzi is and what it has represented in the past, but that is gone now. AND we know it. As some experienced commenters have said, Guzzi bikes are not reliable and are expensive. They have lots of issues that show up before and after warranty expires. We are ANGRY with Piaggio (the owner and responsible for this disaster) for not building bikes that should be up to their history and reputation. They are beatiful?? Yes, they are beautiful ... but that's it. Are they nice to ride the first time you jump on ? Yes, they are... but in the long run it's a bet! You might be lucky and buy a faultless bike or be unlucky (as I have been and will never do it again!) and pay money and be stressed out on something that instead should provide you with pleasure.... joy.... satisfaction... and for an Italian: PRIDE. Is anybody willing to bet all that money??? There are many Italians who will defend this brand to their teeth, but I (and so many other Italians) can't defend any brand (Italian or foreign) that asks 14 K euros for a bike that after 2/3 years turns into a piece of mechanical crap. So... think before saying silly things over the "Italians" or over any other nation actually....
I think you’re right Freddie, it’s image, poor marketing. In the 70’s and 80’s they had the V7 Sport and the Le Mans I and they were seen as the coolest, fastest bikes you could buy then. The current V7 looks dull and the low hp doesn’t help.
coolest and fastest ?never in a million miles They were always behind laverda on both or for an even more niche marque MV Augusta and that's just a couple of the Italian brands
The 3 big Italian sports bikes of the late 70s, Laverda Jota, Ducati 900SS and Moto Guzzi Le Mans. All great bikes, expensive but affordable. The MV Agusta Monza was out of most peoples reach, therefore very few seen on UK roads.
@@richardbartlett6932 Having owned a Jota and a 79 le mans and my friend a Ducati 900ss at the time you're kind of right, in a straight line the Jota was a good bit faster but was a bit of a pig to get round corners. I ground a hole in the alternator cover and chamfered the domed lock nut on the primary drive so even riding it like a lunatic my friend on his 900ss would pull away on the bends, he later bought a Le mans which was much quicker than the Ducati, handled better than my Laverda and all in all offered the compromise. I was that impressed with his Le mans that I bought one and kept it for 10 years. As for the SEI, they were just looked at as a novelty bike by us anyway. I returned to road biking and bought a V7, it's a bit gutless, but having just turned 60 that's probably not a bad thing, I just avoid motorways and fast A roads.
Having ridden for over 50 years on Nortons, Ducatis, Triumphs, BSAs, Yamahas, and currently a V7 Stone/ Racer hybrid, I have to say that theV7 is maybe the most comfortable ride I've owned. I'm 5'8" and 175lbs, and it's a perfect fit.
As I have so far had to wait 14 months for the supply of a warranty replacement, "Tank Badge" from another Italian motorcycle manufacturer, I can completely see why this machine will remain the preserve of the "Enthusiast." I love everything about the V7 and will probably have one as my next purchase, but I will buy it with my eyes open! Thanks for posting this entertaining presentation!
I'm a Guzzi owner, a 2008 Bellagio, my first Guzzi in fact and I love it. Guzzi's are quirky, reliable and have great character and I dont think I'd be without a Guzzi now going forward. I love the exclusivity of owning one, you dont see many of them around and they're in a niche of their own. If I had to replace my Bellagio I'd definitely look at the V7, I love the classic look of the V7, but I'd more likely get a V7 in addition to the Bellagio because I dont think you can have too many Guzzi's 🙂
I have six motorcycles. I'm looking to buy a V85TT Adventure to add to the herd. I have 2 Aprilia, a Moto Guzzi V9 Bobber full custom, BMW, KTM, blah, blah. My favorite is the V9. My wife is asking me why I need so many bikes when I can only ride one at a time. I asked her, why do you have two drawers full of panties when you can only wear one at a time? No, you can't have too many Guzzis
Have to say that Guzzis are unique bikes. Because of that not a lot of riders love them, but they are still special bikes. I have to try one and I will, I mean the new V7. You will be able to check it when I will upload it. :)
Dear Freddie! Thanks for the video. I have watched it so many times, that I could repeat your words 😂 based on your video I bought myself a V7 😮 and it’s perfect. Exact the V7 of your video (type 3 with the night pack) only the red version. Above the new one, because this version is more sexy shaped (headlight and rear). Thanks to you! Have a nice day, greetings from the Netherlands.
Interesting to see a Moto Guzzi reviewed from this perspective - *your* perspective, as a Triumph owner/rider. And I personally think you answered the "why is it not more popular?" question pretty accurately. Marketing, Dealer availability, etc. Points for learning about the centenary ( check out the 100 years badge the current models are sporting - classy!) - and points, too, for pronouncing the brand name correctly! Shame you didn't get it up into the twistys in the hills, though. (o;
Hi Freddie, Happy New Year! Nice video! Before I owned a v7 cafe 2009. Had it for 12 years. Same specs as the one you tested in the video . For me the feel of the enige won me over to buy one. It's all rocking to the right when you rev it . It makes noises, it Just has soul! For me the lack of power was not an issue......This year I bought a V7 850 special in grey. A stunning bike in my eyes! Moto guzzi has taken too heart all the lesser points and they have done their homework this time. Longer suspension travel, lager more comfortable seat and a fair bit more power ! Now you've got a hell of a tourer, but still with all the class of the former ones. Give this one a try as well some day, you will be pleasantly surprised. Greetings from the Netherlands and keep up the good work!
Heej dude, no apparenttly not......😉. When did you get your grey one? I got mine only in November, did Just 600 km on it. How do you like your guzzi? Can't wait to do some more miles on it!
@@reneroozendaal5493 I got mine in August from Motor Oost in Enter. I live in Zutphen, the place to be... Nice riding in the Achterhoek and Twente (although more and more speed bumps). I am a big Guzzi fan, although I don't dismiss the odd BMW either. The V7 has always been my favourite bike, although I am also a fan of the California 1100, I currently have the California Vintage 90 Anniversario (next to a V85TT Centenario and 1975 V7 850GT). Difficult to chose between the V7 III Special (nicer exhaust sound, nicer vibes) and the V7 850 Special (more power, better suspension). I currently did some 2000 km on V7 850. If you want a V-Twin, air-cooling and shaft drive (and lots of character) there is only Moto Guzzi..
Wow, you have quite a collection! Zutphen is a beautiful town and you have a lot more open space then where I live. Good for you ! Before the V7 cafe I owned a yamaha xjr 1300. A lovely bike, but there is something about a guzzi . It' s very contagious like a virus....lol. Thanks for replying. Take care! Ciao
Today youtube recommended me this video. Now I am kinda addicted to this channel. I have watched three videos so far. I thoroughly enjoyed the road trip from England to tenerife series. I am planning to watch one more video before I go to sleep. I am wondering why this channel does not have a lot of subscribers.
Congratulations for the video. The new V7 has about the same performance as the new Street Twin Triumph, however it is not the performance that is looking for those who buy a Guzzi V7 (although IMHO 65hp and 73 nm are fun anyway) but the character the sensations that it transmits to you, those vibrations "the good ones" that no other bike can give, and the sound. And then there's that particular style with that protruding engine that you can't find elsewhere. If you have the chance try the new V7, you will not regret it
I don’t really consider lateral vibrations knock and you say decide as character I think after being on the bike for a while it’s going to be quite annoying and uncomfortable
@@allans7281 sorry to contradict you but the V7 has a great character, the vibrations don't cause the slightest annoyance even after hundreds of kilometres, I advise you to take a test ride to understand what I am saying, describing it in words is impossible.
@@allans7281 the highway is not the best environment for the V7, it has no aerodynamic protection, it is a bike that is appreciated on mountain roads, great torque and handling, the vibrations are there but they are never annoying either on the hands or on the back.
I was out riding with my buddies on my California . Stopped for lunch, and my one of the guys says “Italian, any issues ?”. Me “not one”. One mile later total electrical failure and I am stranded 100 miles from home. Now this happens, but the problem was a 50 cent connector that had burnt out. I think that’s the issue. Engine, gearbox etc., bulletproof, but the small things leave you stranded. Very frustrating. And soon after the tach went out, then the fuel pump, grabby clutch . All on 4K miles. Had to go
Just got my A2 license a few days ago. Was deciding between Interceptor, Bonneville and the v7. Test rode all of them. The Bonneville felt and looked too modern for me. Though the quality was awesome. The Interceptor rode smooth and I liked the looks, but on some points the quality was noticable. Nothing bad in relation to the price. But on a test ride with the Guzzi, I lost my heart. For some reason I just love the design and the "good vibrations". Waiting for delivery now. But I'm confident about my choice. Think motorbikes are less of a rational decision than an emotional one.
I bought one of these bikes (a 2013 one) a few months ago purely because I liked the idea of a shaft drive, and I absolutely love it. Really nice big bike, never had compliments on a bike before but people love it, and I think they look fantastic. Love just rumbling along feeling good, yeah it rumbles but you know you're sat on a motorcycle.
Nice work as ever Freddie - The Moto Guzzi's tend not to appeal to me for some reason but your video has made me have a rethink that maybe I should look a little closer. I had a look at the Moto Guzzi website and the V7 Special 850 in "Blu Formale" is a beautiful looking thing and available for £8,600.....a good looking bike for sure, I'm just concerned a potential lack of power ad maybe too much character (ie thumpy vibes) might be too much of an off-put.....Cleearly I need to have a go on one! Cheers mate and Happy New Year to you and Monika (sp?).....
I'm such a big fan of your channel! It's good to see you here supporting another enthusiast and being open minded about a motorcycle you might not have seriously considered before.
It would be a crying shame Andy if you didn’t add the Guzzi V7 850 Special to your 2022 review schedule. I’ve been fortunate to have ridden and owned every genre of bike over the past 56 years. My Guzzi 1200 Sport was the most soulful machine I ever owned and deeply regret selling it. With Guzzi’s you need to take your time to appreciate them and once they get under your skin you’re seduced for life. Try one!
For someone who always claims to like small bikes, i cannot fathom your "lack of power" comment. A bike that could sit at 90mph all day (if it was even legal), just how fast does it need to be? Too many people hung up on numbers, and not real world performance. No one needs a road going bike with 160+hp. But hey, toys for the boys........
I own the exact model, I enjoyed you review very much. I love my 2019. It is easy to ride and has enough power for my needs. I am 69 years old and this bike makes me feel like a kid again. The electronics are a bit temperamental and it does have a few niggles ( as you Brits would say) but they are easily overlooked when up and riding. Here in the states I don't believe they are marketed very well. Also shops for service are few and far between. Fortunately for me there is a very good shop about half an hours ride from me, where the owner and his staff are extremely competent wrenchs. This will probably be my swan 🎵 song for as iong as I'm able to ride. Cheerio old chap
I loved my 20’ V7III Stone S with the exception of their display. Mine had a glitch that after three trips to the dealer, they could still not figure out. I ended up trading it for a V85TT which I like a lot more but it’s not near as good looking. Very sweet engine. Maybe not a screamer but wow, it is fun to ride and really looks cool. Good review Mr. Dobbs
I was going to buy a Guzzi 1050 I think. Shaft drive, great looks, lots of class...but then there was the clunky gearbox, the lack of power and I ended up with a Suzuki 1400 GSX. I've still got it 12 years later, not a single problem and I love that power every time I put my leg over it...sorry Guzzi, would love to have one...maybe one day :-)
I owned a V7 ll stone, a beautiful looking and charactful bike, however for me performance and brakes didn't quite do it for me and I moved on to a Monster 696 which I loved, so much so I still have a Monster 1000ie. Cheers Freddie and Monica.
@@FreddieDobbs surprisingly a modest bhp for a near litre bike, mine has been mapped for a Termignoni system which brings it up to 90bhp, but where it really scores is low and mid level torque is wonderful.
My best friend bought a 2013 V7 Racer about two years ago. When I saw it in the showroom, I thought it was new. I think it appealed to my friend because of its classic look. It had about 7k (kilometers) on it. Neither of us had any familiarity with the brand. I was surprised by the problems that began to show up immediately. 1. The sparkplug wires shorted out because they were routed through a notch in the metal valve cover. The misfiring caused discoloration of one of the mufflers. We made new plug wires and added extra insulation at the weak points. 2. The sidestand would work its way down on a bumpy road, to the point it shut the motor off. We found using the right lubrication and keeping it well lubricated solves the problem...mostly. 3. The seals went in the back wheel and leaked lubricant all over the wheel and tire. The wheel was removed and taken to an independent shop. They seem to have done a good job, no leaks. 4. The bike would crank, but was reluctant to start. The discolored half plastic fuel filter inside the tank was replaced. Starting problem still persisted. The best solution seems to be....turn on the key, wait 30 seconds, then crank the motor. This procedure has not been thoroughly tested yet. We are both are now hopeful that my friend can now enjoy his bike. It is fun to ride. His other bike is a 1999 Ural, which he has had for about 8 years. The Ural has had very few problems. My 2009 Burgman has had zero problems in 83k. I am left wondering why a legacy design, with new technology applied, like fuel injection, could be so troublesome. Dealers support is not very good here. The few dealers here don't sell many.
Excellent review......love your passion! And you covered almost everything except the ease of maintenance. Valve adjustment takes 20 or 30 minutes and of course the shaft drive is a huge advantage. I own a 2020 V7III Special and owning and riding it is pure joy. I have 2 dealers within 90 minutes of me here in NJ and the one I bought it from has been excellent and knowledgeable. And I did have a Covid time warranty issue.....needed a new tachometer and expected a 2 month wait for the part. They had it the next day and installed it while I waited! For anyone in the area that was Blackmann's Cycle in Emmaus, Pa. One note about the size of the bike: The wheelbase is 57.2", .1" longer than the Triumph Bonneville or Street twin, so it is not really a small bike, but it is a low bike. And one more thing that cool engine design brings. Not having cylinder heads stuffed up under the tank mean there is more room for fuel and the V7 holds 5.3 gallons in that gorgeous tank, so really nice long range. As for the 52 hp on the pre 2022 model, I agree that it is a bit underpowered for 2 riders, but for solo it is great. Gobs of torque in the 3,500 to 6.500 range. Well done on the review, thanks!
"The shaft drive is a huge advantage." This in regard to maintenance, yes? Actually, the fact that MG relies on the shaft drive may be a reason why the MG is not so popular in the United States, where performance is the paramount concern. Shaft drive is less efficient than the chain for power transmission. In addition, for some riders torque reaction due to the lateral flywheel may be scary.
I owned a 2018 V7 III Special and sold it with 3,500 miles on the clock after three years.Simple answer why more are not sold, for me: build quality. I always had one problem or another. It left me stranded almost immediately after I bought it for a serious oil leak. The final straw was when the instrument gauge popped out of its housing while I was riding it on a perfectly smooth road (a known issue on 2018's Aprilia chose to not help with). I loved the look of the bike, but the build quality wasn't there.
Great video as usual Freddie! I think really the new V100 will be a key turning moment for Guzzi and sell well, but only if they like you say market it right. It’s one of my top 8 bike pics for 2022 on my latest podcast. 👍
I've owned my V7 III Anniversario since new in 2018. Done all my own maintenance and never had a single issue. Absolutely bulletproof and a blast to ride. Unfortunately as stated by so many others. Most of the dealers are garbage to deal with. Though if you are in BC, Canada, International Motorsports in Vancouver will make you very, very happy. Completely aces guys.
I love that you don‘t really care about Ridermodes and all that crap haha anyways here in Vienna/Austria, there are quite a lot of those around the city. You see as many of these as Bonnevilles. My budy actually rides one and he always makes fun of the rest of us when we maintain our Chains or when we need a gasstation every 150-180miles. But it‘s really, really small therefore no competition for a Bonneville.
Great to hear how it is in Austria, and that they’re as common as Bonnevilles! This is a big selling point for me- I love the idea of having no chain maintenance!
Great review. I've just upgrade from a 1996 Moto Guzzi Nevada to a 2019 V7III Stone. Love the sound, love the little sideways twitch, love the shaft drive. They are definitely an under rated bike.
I put some Guzzi tech pipes on my v7iii and it sounds boss. I recommend taking off those long euro pipes it knocks like 18lbs off the weight of the bike too.
I got 2 thoughts - 1. 99,9% of society in general buy BMW GS... even in Britain if you look who you meet on a road. 2. V7 is an awesome retro bike, but most people choose something else at the end - like you did. Or like I chosen my w800. Cheers
Fantastic video as always, perfect way to start a Sunday. My wife is looking for her first bike, the Interceptor was on her list but I think this could be a better option, given its weight and size - not to mention the looks. Thanks as always for giving us an honest review, already looking forward to the next one :)
Thanks Paul!🙂 This is an easier bike to ride than the Interceptor, so would be brilliant for your wife’s first bike. The Guzzi’s centre of gravity and seat height are lower than the Interceptor, so much easier to manage🙂👌🏻
Dont discount the W800 though, another great bike worth considering. She should ride them all before deciding. Theres always time and always another bike, the key to riding safely for first-timers ,is the ergonomics. What feels great to you, might not for her. Many reviewers have commented on how the RE650's inspired confidence by how they ride, this is crucially important.
I've always been interested in this bike, though it's curious you mention it as being small, and perhaps it is for someone 6'+ but for a 5'5" person such as myself I found it way too big as a beginner bike, much larger than a Speed Twin for example.
why ? because the retail network is CRAP ! i've just acquired my A2 licence ... i asked if i could test drive an A2 model ... the answer was " i convert the bike to A2 only if you buy it ... no test drive" ... so i bought a BMW R nine T
Here in The Netherlands, a good Guzzi servicepoint is not far a way. You have motordrivers and you have Guzzi drivers. I own 4 Guzzi,s Imola 350 Lario650 Strada 750 and Breva 1200 for long distance. The quality of the painting etc under Piaggio is better then in the eighties. Character of the engine is awsome.
The simple answer to your confusion is that the Italian's are too hard headed to listen to other's suggestion's. Over here in the State's, there are few company representative's to handle people's problem's not to mention trying to get part's in any kind of a timely manner. And this was @ pre-covid, so imagine the nightmare in which you will deal with today. It's really a shame as they are a beautifully manufactured machine. We Guzzi guy's over here ( I own two ), say that these bike's are the best kept secret. Once the head's are re-torqued 2 time's these bikes are virtually bulletproof. Lack of dealership's are also a main problem for M.Guzzi over here & there are many reason's for this, all of which the company is aware of/or should be by now. But they simply don't give a damn. And that is why people buy other bike's. Good dealership's sponsoring your product's, access of part's & mechanic's to work on your bike's are the (3) main key's to a successful company & that my friend is why you see very few M.G. here in the State's. So in essence M.G. has failed us over here & receive an F for a grade. Have a great day from you friend on the other side of the pond!!!!!!! Illinois, USA
Fascinating- you’re not the first American to say exactly this. Thank you for this insight and hello over in the US!🙂
I would add to that dealing with Piaggio USA for customer service / warranty issues is very difficult. And I second finding a dealer mechanic in the states who actually knows Moto Guzzi's. If you buy a Moto Guzzi in the US, plan on doing your own maintenance and understand the warranty is pretty much a useless. The V85 TT is a great bike in every respect but you're on your own in a waste land of support. Even though BMW's are outrageously expensive at least you can find support and there's a good after market for parts.
As someone who just came back to riding after a 16 year hiatus and bought the 2021 Moto Guzzi V7 Centenario, I can definitely relate to this. I bought with my heart and not my brain. Hopefully it doesn't bite me in the end. Nearest dealer to me is 3 hours each way.
@@geneclarke2205 This is eye opening- the feedback from the US on Guzzi aftercare and support has been atrocious! I've heard nothing but bad things Thanks very much for sharing this, Gene. Really appreciated🙂
Agreed that the dealer network needs expansion, the V7 is a great bike for the price.
I am 26 years old and I own a Guzzi t5 850 of the Italian police of 1986. I have never experienced so many emotions on a motorcycle. It has almost 40 years old and 100000 km but has still an immense reliability. I can't understand how we Italians never manage to enhance our brands. Now in Italy you only see bmw gs despite having competitive brands in my opinion much more beautiful . Greetings from Italy . Long live to Moto Guzzi
Uh damm bro nice
Mio nonno c'aveva lo zigolo
Try tearing one down to the spokes then put it back together after your brother has lost the pictures
It is stupid. It is like start eating bratwurst instead pizza. I have such a place in my heart for Italian bikes. To produce such you must sell. So if even Italians dont buy their own brands what will be the future.
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Currently own a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 cc that I have had for 20 years. Once took me 120 miles on one cylinder at highway speed when one spark plug wire crapped out on a Sunday morning with no shops open. At almost 70 years old it has gotten too heavy to maneuver in and out of situations. Purchased a 2013 Moto Guzzi V7 Stone at more than 100 pounds less wet weight. Absolutely love it. Will stay with Moto Guzzi for the rest of my riding life. I have owned BMW, Laverda, Ducati, Moto Morini, Triumph, BSA, Zundapp, Indian, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Cagiva and loved them all for different reasons, but the fact that I can physically handle the weight of a bike that will cruise (illegally) at 85-90 mph for as long as I need, looks good, is reliable and affordable and unique, why shop anywhere else?- -Mike Battle
Freddie’s reviews of motorcycles is different from any other motorcycle journalist because he goes into the emotional aspect of the bikes. He goes so deep and tries to see the bike from the average enthusiasts perspective.
I find the waffle frustrating, for a review the intro was excruciatingly content free. Fortunately that gorgeous Guzzi was in shot the whole time so not all bad😊.
Different alright…..a lot of talk but very little of it is meaningful or of technical content. Probably a nice guy but not very knowledgable about bikes….
Rider with over 40 years (& 40 bikes) experience here with a 2003 FLHR filled with Screamin Eagle parts. A barrel of laughs but not much use for the daily commute. I recently (like, last week) bought a 2016 V7ii with 7500km on the clock & here's why.
The Triumphs are modern bikes that look kind of retro. They go, stop & turn corners like a modern bike. They have modern bike manners. And they have modern bike appeal ie. None.
Then there's the Royal Enfields. They felt like they were built to a price. There's nothing really wrong with them but they always felt like the "poor cousin".
Then there's the Guzzis... They are, for all intents & purposes, just like their ancestors. Sure, they have ABS & traction control but they "feel" like the bikes built when I was a lad without all the shortcomings. And they tick all the boxes - Air-cooled pushrod V-twin? Check. Twin shocks? Check. Spokes? Check. Comfortable riding position that doesn't make your neck or back hurt after a long day in the saddle? Check! All this plus a shaft drive. Not a retro motorcycle but authentic motorcycle & that's what tipped me over the edge.
In the end, it was an easy decision. I bought the classiest machine on the market & I doubt anyone could convince me to part with it.
Guzzista for life. Viva Moto Guzzi!
Went to a Royal Enfield Dealer that was sharing the building with a Vespa Dealer. I stumbled across Moto Guzzi's in the Vespa section and instantly dropped my jaw at their beauty. I genuinely felt ashamed for not knowing about them. Their appearance truly is drop dead gorgeous. I came in for an RE and still walked out of the dealer with an RE Meteor 350, but the first impression MG has made to me is one I'll never forget. One that if given enough time to sink into my heart and fester my soul...I may just be back for the MG the next time I visit!
EDIT: I own a Moto Guzzi Flying Fortress now LESGOOOOOOO
How are you liking the Meteor? I'm concerned with it's low top speed for light touring. Also, how is it in the twistys?
Vespa marietta??
I walked into a harley dealership for a sportster and I left with a MG V7.
In Switzerland they are quite popular reliable good bikes not so sporty like Ducati and Aprilia but fun to ride
J'ai revendu la Royal Enfield Classic 350 après 6 mois pour acheter une moto Guzzi V7 Spécial Edition, je suis comblé.
RE était une machine ennuyeuse.
Being a Guzzi owner, the biggest downfall is lack of dealer support. Unless you live close to a dealer it puts a lot of people off. If they worked out more dealerships I think it could sell in much higher numbers.
totally happy with the Interceptor.. easy to maintain. I love the Bonneville's fit and finish but to me it isn't worth an extra 5K, and besides, I know nothing about bucket and shim!
I test rode both the Bonneville T120 and Interceptor 650 and I own both the Moto Guzzi V7 III Special and the new V7 850 Special. The T120 felt very ponderous, much less agile than I had expected; a common complaint of the reviewing journalists. The T100 is supposedly more agile, but may be too smooth. I don’t like the liquid-cooling of the T120, although they did a good job hiding it. Also there were reports of failing gearboxes, which kept me away from buying (I assume that has finally been solved with the recent updates). Apart from all that I think the Bonneville looks stunning with great attention to detail. I still think Triumph should have made the Kawasaki W800, which is closer to the original. I was not that impressed by the Interceptor. For the price a great bike (although prices have gone up considerably recently and here in the Netherlands they are only a bit cheaper than the Kawasaki W800, which I think is a much nicer bike). While the Bonneville is made in Thailand and the Interceptor in India, the W800 is made in Japan and the V7 in Italy. I still value when a product is made in the original country, especially if it has such a heritage. The V7 Stone is the rebel of the two, the Special is the more elegant classic version with lots of chrome and an extra tachometer. The V7 is not only a very characterful bike with a nice exhaust sound and good vibrations, but also very practical one with the large 21 litre fuel tank and the shaft drive. At 6’3” the bike is a bit small for me, but still of all my (many) bikes the V7 is my favourite (okay, after my 1956 BMW R50 that is). I think that the main reason that these bikes are not sold in big numbers is the bad marketing of Moto Guzzi and Piaggio. In Italy the client is not king, it is considered a favour that you as a customer can buy their products..
Great comment, bottom line is there's genuine authenticity and honesty with an Italian made Guzzi and its engine design heritage, something that the others pretend to have but are lacking.
Loved your last line. You hit the nail square on the head. That's along the same line as what I said in my comment to Freddie. I can read that the consensus of the people's comment's have a good understanding to it's uniformity.
Excellent post.
Fast Eddy great comment but I'm not too bothered that in 2022 manufacturers have factorys producing their bikes in other countries. My Honda is made in Thailand, still a great bike as is the Ducati Scrambler, also made in Thailand. And my Nissan car is Japanese but made in England. Nope, no problem with it at all if the build quality is there.
Fascinating! And your point on Guzzi and Kawasaki made in their countries if origin- this is an important factor for quite a few bikers I can see (I do understand that).
Thank you so much!
I have owned my V7 for 4 years and still enjoy it. Only problem is lack of dealers, very rare to see another Guzzi but I kind of like that. Great bike for me.
I recently sold my Bonneville and bought a V7 Classic wich has the spoked wheels and lots of chrome.
Do i miss my Bonneville?Yes,but this bike has much more character and the sound coming from stock exhaust pipes is addictive.
I ride the Guzzi much more frequently than i did the Bonneville,and although not a perfect bike,if such a bike exists,i totally fell in love with riding all over again.
I did same no regrets.
Very very interesting to hear from a biker going from a Bonneville to a V7! Really appreciate you sharing this, Jakobus!🙂🙌🏻
@@FreddieDobbs I went from V7 II to a 2019 Bobber Black, I am happy with most parts but I really miss the shaft drive of the V7ii, the power deliver of the shaft is immediate without delay, I also miss the song of the 2v V twin.
@@griffincui 2022 V9 bobber is already shaft driven
I also went from a T120 to a V7 850, I prefer the Guzzi, more character, lighter, shaft drive, and huge fuel tank!
Just found a low low mileage 2017 v9 bobber for a good price. It's absolutely beautiful can't wait to bring her home this week. Have a GS , 2 Harleys and other bikes no bike I've ridden gives u the feeling of a guzzi
Man you're wrong , we italians love guzzi too!!!
you are absolutely right, bougth a 2009 model in mint condition for 4.5 grand and I absolutely love it.
This month, I bought a 2023 V7 special and I absolutely love it. Finally, I know what the Guzzi charm and soul is all about. It’s a wonderful traveling companion. As much as I loved my 2013 Bonnie, I can’t say that it tugged at me the same way as the Moto Guzzi. Cheers!
Thanks for the review Freddie! I was “this” close to buying the Bonneville exactly one year ago for all the reasons you mentioned regarding the triumph…and then I stumbled upon the exact same V7. I was drawn to the lines, the styling and it drew me down a rabbit hole and did research on the brand and then joined a Guzzi Forum and fell in love with the Guzzi community and of course Ewan McGregor’s affiliation played no small part, and before I knew it I pulled the trigger and bought my very own Sophia. 7051km later, I’m totally and madly besotted with this motorcycle. It’s more than the sum of its parts. It’s the smile it gives me, the people and Guzzi community and the smiles I get from onlookers, it’s the right leaning throb from the engine like no other, it’s the huge mileage you get from the 20litre tank it’s ..a Guzzi. So why doesn’t it sell? I think it’s economy of scale - each Guzzi is still made in the very same factory in Mandello on lake Como. It’s a niche brand and a niche bike. I think Piaggio purposefully positions this brand and it’s product to be niche (which is a rare strategy in this day and age) and uphold Guzzi as a brand making bikes for those who want to be part of a happy community. Long may it last
I agree as to your reason they don't sell huge numbers.
If not mistaken the entire Guzzi workforce consists of less than 100 employees,and average annual production is around 9000 bikes per year,all models in a good year....and all assembly almost completely done by hand.
This will most likely change in near future when addition to current factory is complete,but then again,the exclusivity,and reasonable low numbers out on the roads, makes owning a Guzzi even more special.
@@eltonl473 100% agree. The limited production and output is apt for this brand and it’s bikes to be truly niche. Additionally, as they are made “the old fashioned way” they come with wonderful quirks that only Guzzista’s appreciate :) a GS fan will immediately point out a series of details that they will label as faults whereas a Guzzi rider embraces those as part of the experience - like the right lean whilst revving the engine or the lag in the gear signaling on the dial. To each their own but what ultimately sold me on buying into Moto Guzzi are the people who form a totally rad community. I honestly don’t think there is another bike fraternity as close knit as the Guzzi folks the world over. The forums are incredibly helpful, fun and appreciative of this great brand but with absolutely no snobbery whatsoever (most of them have other bikes - especially Bonnie’s).
I totally do not believe in your theory of this being a "niche" bike build. At least not for here in the USA. Please read my comment to Freddie in this long list of comment's. You will also find other's who share in my view. But with that said, belief is in the eye of the beholder; so you are entitled to believe that what you may. Have a great day!! Illinois, USA
Hi Larry
You bring an interesting perspective. Having read yours and other comments I consider myself very lucky as the lack of dealership and maintenance support never was a problem for me in my experience. We have an AD with full maintenance support right around the corner. Having said that, I’d certainly think twice about buying a Guzzi if there was no back up available so your points are pretty relevant. Luck of the draw, I guess. Still, the charm is definitely there.
What’s really baffling is what Freddie mentioned about the popularity of the GS’s in Italy and the apparent lack of Guzzi’s and Ducatis on the roads in Italy .. surely the issues surrounding the supply chain and dealerships don’t exist there?
@@mikekamler Hi Mike, I can see & feel your passion in the Guzzi's when reading through your comment's. I too, as well as a good number of the respondent's share in/with your feeling's. When you have no support system near you, you have to educate yourself somehow. Please see the comment that I typed to (frase32), under my initial comment about M.G. lack of caring, support,part's & etc here in the States. I am somewhat mechanically inclined & take care of what I can. But there have been times that I put my bike/bikes on the trailer & drive 5hrs. away to a real Guzzi motorhead guy. There's nothing that he can't fix on a Guzzi. That's how picky I am about who work's on my ride. Plus he's a good friend & we get together for a meal between the job. I then drive that 5hrs home with bike/bikes in tow. Then it's rare that I have future problem's. A good amount of preventative maintenance has been done since the beginning of bike ownership. I have yet to be stranded on the road except for maybe a flat tire or two; but any descent shop can fix that. PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE is the main key to successful operation in all mechanical equipment. Have a great day Mike & happy Guzzi riding in this new year!!! Illinois, USA
I had a 2013 V7 Stone and to date it's still one of my all-time favorite bikes. It oozes character and charm and was so much fun to ride. I just bought a new bike and the primary reasons it _wasn't_ a Moto Guzzi was 1) I wanted something that'd be more comfortable for a passenger and 2) easy access to a repair shop. The closest Guzzi dealer is 2 hours away from me and that wasn't tenable. It's truly a shame, because I love the v7's and the new v100's are mouth watering.
I love your enthusiasm for this motorcycle.
In my opinion the Moto Guzzi doesn’t sell like hot-cakes because they weren't meant to. If you buy one you aren’t looking at what it’s trade in value will be, but who you will pass it down to in your will. It was engineered for the long haul. They’re easy to maintain, simple to repair and can last for generations. That’s rare in a world overflowing with disposable razor blades and empty soda pop bottles.
I’ve done a lot of dreaming and reading about owning a Moto Guzzi, but have hesitated due to the lack of dealers and rumors of sketchy parts supply lines, but I am a big fan.
Until then I’ll keep riding my 1981 Honda CB900 Custom, which I consider the proto sport-touring machine.
81 CB900 great bike, my best friend had the same model, he still kicks himself for trading it.
I own a V35 from 1978 (basically the same bike from back than with only 35 HP) and your words about maintainence and repairing are so true. You can get to basically everything yourself. You can even take one apart, switch the gearbox and put it back together in under 2 days.
I love the perspective but I swear you can say the same thing about the Royal Enfield Himalayan and that is also selling extremely well.
The video was great but the comments below are even better .. SO many reasons to love this bike as a lifetime rider (since 1966) ..I am one of the lucky few who has a nationally renowned dealer and shop 25 miles from my home here in Connecticut (Have a look at Jim Hamlin Motors Bethel CT story) .. The parts problem is a hit or miss gamble and my biggest worry .. Thank you for an hour of great reading below . Anyone deciding on this bike will have some great answers in the stories below ..All the best from New England
I have owned a V85 since May last year, initially, it was what you would call an impulse buy as it just looks stunning, like nothing else that is out there, but as many others stated, I fell in love with the Guzzi charm and are now shopping actively for a V7 Racer. I can see the dealer network as a deterrent for some folks, but then again, owning a Guzzi gives so much back, and it's almost like a lifestyle. I cannot tell you how many people have complimented me on my Guzzi or just walked up and wanted to talk about the bike. No other bike I owned (and I owned a few ... lol) has gotten the same reaction. I will also say, so far the V85 has been dead reliable. I mean, a virtual mx free shaft drive, no radiator or plumbing to deal with, and a very proven design, a great recipe for long-term reliability!
How's the maintenance interval and cost for your bike?
@@Jan-mu6vs First service is at 900 miles and then every 6000 miles thereafter. I am past 1 year now of ownership and still dead reliable with no issues. I did do a few modifications and it has taken to it nicely.
@@MotoMischiefs thanks, did you do engine mods?
@@Jan-mu6vs I replaced the stock exhaust with a Mistral/Agostini Setup, came out amazing. You can check it out on my channel, I have several Videos about it.
They are such beautiful bikes! If I knew for sure it was reliable, I would certainly get one (oh - and if I had the money haha)
The shaft drive feels so much different than a chain when you accelerate. Just kind of hop up, up and away when you punch it. Love the feeling.
And there's no worrying about chain stretch to mar your enjoyment of a wonderful machine.
Exactly! They are awesome bikes. People are ignorant not realising of how these bikes are so great, but also, at the same tome: classic.
My V7iii is 5 years old with original battery. Shaft oil leaked but it can be fixed with industrial machine seal which very easy to find. Brake pad is dirt cheap. I never use any external oil lube to any part of it, finally side-stand was stuck.
After 20 bikes own, my V7 is the most reliable bike with potential. It was small and agile for rush hour ride and I just put 1685km on it within 27hrs with no issue.
Moto Guzzi caught my eye about 2 years ago. Then I delved into the companies history. For me, a great looking bike with the heritage that is important, to me anyway. I look forward to owning one.
My present ride in the Interceptor 650.
Thanks again for the review Freddy and to Monica for her great filming / edits. You two are great!
I’ve been riding since the early seventies and have owned many brands, many styles along the way. Over the decades, I have often considered buying into Moto Guzzi . I’ve coveted their cruisers, standards, sport and adventure touring bikes. But each and every time, their lack of USA dealer and parts support causes me to move on. Their bikes are absolutely beautiful/brilliant.
so . . . thanks for the insight into something you've considered now and then.
Went on my Tenere 700 for a test ride on the Guzzi and couldn't believe how slow it was. I realise it's not a sports bike but 52 bhp in a heavy bike with power sapping shaft drive simply isn't enough. When I got back on my T7 it felt like a missile.
I own a 2019 V7 III Special, and I am in love with it. It's no mass-produced Yamaha, but a strong, elegant, and unique motorcycle that gets compliments almost everywhere I go. The build quality is first rate, and it feels as solid as a rock. I'm in the process of accessorizing it with accessories from the Italian company Givi, and it's shaping up into a highly-functional work of art.
I believe you. It looks amazing. Soon will try one. :) Anyways you can check what I do. :)
You mean solid as a…stone? 🤭
Original owner of a Black/Green ‘93 1000S, and it is the coolest bike I’ve owned. These V7’s harken back to that, which harkened back to the original V7.
I’ve been riding motorcycles my entire life. I’ve recently purchased my first Moto Guzzi, a black v9 Bobber for a steal. I’m in love! I’ve owned a 2015 Triumph Scrambler (her name was Beatrice) but the Guzzi (Giatta) has shaft drive, anti lock brakes and a sixth gear (and in the case of the v7iii you rode, huge tank capacity! No more messing with the horrendous triumph seat latch and rusty spokes in the Triumph. The Guzzi’s grow on you over time. If you were able to keep one for a couple weeks you wouldn’t give it back 😜.
The biggest flaw in the U.S. is poor dealer network and marketing. I’ve loved my BMWs, Harley, Triumph, etc but the Guzzi is my favorite. The seat is too small on my v9 so I’m having a triumph style bench seat made by Rich’s custom seats. An aftermarket exhaust transforms many bikes but especially a Moto Guzzi. Fun video as usual. Thank you.
I don’t mean to diss on Triumph, I loved mine but love the Moto Guzzi much more. Comparing apples to apples feel like you get more smiles, reliability and more for your money. Cheers !
Hello, what year is your Bobber and are you still enjoying it ? I am thinking of getting a 2017 V9 Bobber with only 440 km’s .
@@molaval5832 I’ll be honest with you. I’ve owned many motorcycles and I would say the Guzzi was one of my very favorites. I just couldn’t get comfortable so I got frustrated and sold it. If it fits you, go for it but it you feel cramped I would move on. Good luck!
I think this is one of those bikes that are just too special for Joe Public to appreciate fully. Like a genuinely premium suit which genuinely wealthy individuals buy, but does not in any way scream "I overspent on this" like a typical designer brand. All the detail is there to tell you that it's something special, but you've got to look for it to find it.
Moto Guzzi's have a certian "feel" to them that can't be described on paper, you have to experience it for yourself. There's something about lumpy 2V twins that make them particularly enjoyable for general cruising around. IMO they're not more popular because people don't really know about Moto Guzzi in the first place, also, the 750cc V7's had a reputation for being painfully slow (48HP? Come On! my 1981 V50 III had 48HP!). I was so stoked in Moto Guzzi updated the V7 to a 63HP 850cc, now we're talking! I might actually pick up one of these bikes now.
my cb400sf had that much power, though it's generally enough for solo riding.
52 horses
I have one of the new 850cc ones. It's quick enough even with my gf on the back, and an absolute joy to ride. A few quirks, but that's just Italian character IMO
Do it. You won't be disappointed.
@DoctorMotorcycle;- I totally agree. So, even when my 1980 850 LeMans 'plays up' a little (which she is prone to doing), I still forgive her. To me, they're closer to having a personality than any other make of motorcycle. In fact, many makes don't have any personality at all.
It's popular with me! My '23 V7 Special is sitting in my garage waiting for my next ride! 4,300 miles in 5 months since owning her. White with special red stripe. Gorgeous!
Hi Freddie, I bought a used one same model as you tested earlier this year. For me it was a toss up between an Interceptor, Triumph street twin and the V7. The triumph has the best motor but the V7 is more authentic in this genre. Decision for me came down to which one I could find for the best deal and I was fortunate to find a low mileage V7 stone. I live in the UK and use it for occasional commute to the office and weekend rides in the country lanes and up and down the coast. It could do with a few extra horses and maybe the 850 is the answer, but I haven’t ridden that one yet, however if it had more power I just ride it faster and that’s not the point of this bike. Riding the V7 just makes you chill out and enjoy the scenery. Why don’t they sell more, probably because people look at the specs and just go for the Triumph or the Interceptor as it fits in the A2 slot, however if people took the trouble to test ride one, as I did, then you get a different view that what you assume from the spec sheet. Thanks for posting your review…
I am now too old and grey to ride, but when I did I loved Guzzi and Morini bikes.... There is a feeling that you get on them that is somehow "other".
Looking back, I slightly suspect there was a degree of snobbery on my part......
Anyway... Morini are long gone but Guzzi still make what seems very like a T3.
I chuckle when I see so many male riders (of a certain age) riding these things in slightly retro open-face helmets. It suggests a certain self-regard.
Anyway.... I think I would be wobbling around on a Guzzi today if I was still on a motorcycle.
Or even better..... a restored T3 or V50 or maybe even a V1000 Spada.
You mentioned Bonneville, V7, Interceptor 650... I would add the Kawasaki W800. It is also a modeenized classic bike that follows along the same lines of the previous three. The W800 has the looks, a great sounding exhaust, and adds Japanese reliability into the mix.
Kawasaki w800 is outrageously priced for what it's provided, in my opinion.
In the states, Moto Guzzi dealers are few and far between whereas even Royal Enfields have taken up residence at every Harley dealer. The shaft drive is something that I think scares some riders away, whereas is you pile on the miles in all kinds of weather like I do, shaft drive is the way to go. I love the simplicity of the air-cooled v-twin shaft drive combo. It is so simple and yet creates such raw emotion in the rider.
I had a Guzzi 30 years and was super happy with it. Now I'm so happy to own a V9 Bobber, 2020 model. Moto Guzzi are so special in a positiv way 🤩🤩 Once you bought one you' ll stay with the Brand forever. ❤️🤩
you may be right. i am a v7 owner and i start to think i'll never sell it..
As Italian in Italy (now) who started riding a proper bike on a Guzzi Florida 350cc, 30 years ago...
I guess the answer to your question is because italians normally don't think big as americans or other countrie's businessman...
We also dont trust enough our sources...
Most of italians didn't live abroad for more than a month and they don't picture how much people like our genuine style... I used to work in tavel industriy but almost all my colleagues used to ask me for shopping with them if they wanted to impress on a date!
If any of the italian entrepreneur would have been through this, they would probably bet more on their Italian brand, whaever their business would be...
Last but not least, the first step should be being supported by the "family" but in Italy, gelousy starts there: Most of our big players fall when they come to the point of 2nd generation...
I have a V7 III Racer, love that thing. Rumbling exhaust note with some nice gear whine. Looks are absolutely stunning. For me the 52HP is sufficient for fun riding.
i was hoping for the racer version of the new 850... nothing up to now D=
You're a great salesman Freddie, you've made up my mind for me.
IMO, the V7 is one of the best looking bikes on the road. I'd love a V7 Centenario with the dual gauges and wheels from the Special. As many have said, the subpar dealer network and lack of advertising are the main issues but I think they are still selling every bike they make.
They have many leftovers but in good Italian fashion, year of production means nothing. I bought my 2017 V9 bobber in 2018 brand new at MSRP but with free financing. Eventually, they sell all their bikes.
A v7iii Milano owner here. I went to buy a Bonneville at the local (Singapore) dealer here, but they are also the outlet for Moto Guzzi. I came away with my Milano and have absolutely no regrets. Similar in so many ways, but so stylish and I love the sound it makes, and the feel at low revs. I am a relatively new motorcyclist, and this is great as a first bike. It is actually my second - and certainly much better find than my first- that was a Honda CB500 :-). They are not common, so when someone (Italian) saw me on mine here and shouted out “MOTO GUZZI” as a rode past it put a smile on my face.
I learned to drive (a car) in a Citroen 2CV. I have a thing for two cylinder air cooled engines. The Guzzi’s is bigger than that 2CV and gets me from A to B in just about as much comfort.
The main reason Guzzi doesn't sell as well as it should is pretty much the appalling dealership network and marketing the world over. I have a V9, and have been to the Mandello del Lario factory and museum many times. The passion they have there at the factory and museum simply doesn't translate through Piaggio and the dealer network. At least Moto Guzzi are still made in Italy, unlike Ducati and other Italian brands.
Piaggio are not a good company to deal with. Speak to Vespa dealers to hear of the problems they have with them.
Ducati is made in Italy lol, i live 20kms from the factory. And all the local small industries produce the spare parts that go to that factory. We can argue about the reliability of Ducati, but not about the fact where it's made.
@@DerpEye Yes, yes, I've been to the factory in Bologna... But Ducati for Australia, New Zealand and Asia are made in Thailand, The Scrambler range, Monster, Multistrada amongst other models are made in Thailand. That's a fact.
Defeantly agree on the marketing. In this smaller Canadian city I didn’t even know we had a dealer here. I went in looking for another bike and they also had Guzzi’s.
I’m thinking of buying that bike (2023) with the 850cc engine. I love your enthusiasm for motorcycling and while I’m in between one at this time, and your emotional connection to motorcycles in general is always good to see.
Firstly I would just like to say that I like your bike review. In a world of UA-cam "hype" I thought your review was honest, simple and to the point. I live in Montreal, Canada and I've owned two Triumph Scramblers, one early carbureted, the later FI. Although I love the style and sound of the Scrams, Triumph support here is very sparse and both bikes were not without a few quirks to sort out. The one main dealer sells the bikes at a huge "premium" mark up as does the one MG/Piagio dealer. The bottom line is that here with a shorter riding season, if you don't do your own maintenance, the cost of riding is huge. Even though there are more Japanese dealers, they never have any stock for parts and anything you need has to be ordered. This coming season I'm looking for a used V7 because I'm comfortable with the tappet valve adjusters, shaft drive and huge fuel tank. I also have to give the Italians over the British extra points for creating a more modern "authentic" classic.
I just bought a 2018 V7iii carbon (the black bike with the bright red cylinder heads covers). Loving it so far. My only big modifications: I’m replacing the red cylinder head covers with black and I’m going to raise the seat by a few inches by adding extra padding. The stock seat is a bit too low for me at 6’1”. If the seat is an inch or 2 higher it will be perfect.
Nice one Freddie, I chose the Guzzi over the Bonneville just to be different, it's got the heritage and is full of character...
People who want a Guzzi knows how to get one and what the machines are all about. Guzzi don’t have massive marketing budgets; if you don’t know the brand or don’t one of their marvellous bikes, that’s fine, Guzzi will just shrug their shoulders and think ‘ your loss’….As an aside, they are marvellous bikes.
You put out good content. Your enthusiasm is exactly matched to what many motorcyclists feel when they have to buy a bike. it is a tough choice with so many factors. I like how you cover all bases when you review.
Hi mate I'm Italian and live in Tuscany,I had a couple Guzzis in the past, I had a couple Triumphs as well and four BMWs, you say you'd seen only BMW GSs rambling arund in Tuscany's roads...i wonder were you been ;-) Yeah BMW Gs is pretty loved over here but not the way you tell, evetytime I go out with my bike I see loads of Ducatis,lesser Guzzis of course but not so many GSs as you say. The main reason why Guzzi does not have top sells (even though is well positioned these days) is mainly because they never updated the "old engine" until 2022 of course,there's only one model with the new liquid cooled twin still but I'll expect a wide range of new models along the year and for the future. This should have been done years ago unfortunately, because apart from the engine, frame/handling/brakes are much better than any pricey Modern Classic Triumph over there. Peace and Love!
I was between a V7 and a Street Twin. I wanted the Guzzi but, after test riding both, I went with the Triumph. I’ve never forgotten about the Guzzi and will probably get one someday. But I just felt like the Triumph has better fit and finish and made me feel like a king riding my first bike. A small, but significant, factor was also that the Guzzi gear position reminder disappears when the clutch is disengaged. I understand that mechanically, but I want to know the gear I’m in as I’m pulling up to an intersection with the clutch pulled in. Love the Guzzi, am Italian and will likely get one someday, but I also love my Street Twin.
Looking forward to have you in our family someday! You'll fall in love with its problems/issues 🤣
I bought mine in 2008. Later I have added 8 more motorcycles but cannot even think about selling this one. It’s pure, raw driving pleasure. Long distance or short commutes. More reliable than a Honda and far more character.
I'm in the Midwest USA. Bought a 2 year old leftover V7 a few years ago. Other than an intermittent O2 sensor problem that didn't affect anything, and a fairly narrow power band, I really liked the bike. It looked good, it sounded good, and it was pretty comfortable. It's also sportier in the turns than I thought it'd be. However, the dealer I bought it from told me my front tire feeling off balance was because "my tire pressure was a little low". Took it to my local, non-Guzzi dealer and they took the wheels off and found a flat spot in the front tire from sitting for 2 years and not being moved (a new Continental tire fixed it right up). Then the next spring the dealer I got the bike from stop selling Guzzi and wouldn't even service them anymore. Next closest dealer was about 1.5 hours away and I have no way of trailering it if something happens. So I traded it in and got a Honda. If I had a garage I'd have thought about keeping it and buying a shop manual, but I don't, so I didn't.
A monkey can do the service on a Guzzi. It's not like that 6k valve adjustment is not the easiest of any bike on the world market.
I love my Guzzi V7 in the beautiful metallic Giallo paint, one of the most characterful and well proportioned bikes evwr made. It gets no end of compliments and it can shift...I have no trouble keeping up with my Riding buddies on their much more powerful bikes. The low down torque feels like you are being swept along, almost like you feel in a Mercedes. The shaft drive is a lovely thing to live with, no chain tension or waxing.... brilliant! More people should consider them, excellent bikes.
I'd much rather have one of these than a Bonneville. Great low-down torque, shaft drive. Seat height is a bit low, but it is on the Street Twin. 780 mm versus 790 mm for the Triumph. But it doesn't look too small for you, Freddie. We are the same size and weight, just about. The newer MG is a fair bit quicker than the one you're on. There is a dealer near where I live when I'm in Portugal.
Another great video.
About to go pick up mine in a few hours! First bike ever and I found a 2018 for 4000 usd.
Excellent video as always!
Speaking for 'Guzzi lovers here in Seoul, Korea there is only 1 showroom and therefore 1 official service center here in Seoul, a city of 15 million. And there is practically no adverts or marketing anywhere in the Korean media. Its almost as if they're ashamed to show their faces!
Of course there are 1 or 2 independant garages that can repair a more modern Moto Guzzi (forget CX's, T5's, Lario's, Monza's, etc) but they are ALWAYS waiting for parts from Italy.
Which is a shame, because they're genuinely cool bikes.
Fascinating! That is eye opening!😳
The bike seems quite popular over the water in Japan though. There are several decent channels, start with Tanuki Rider.
@@therealunclevanya Very interesting- thanks for the heads up! I'll check this out
The 2021 and on 853cc V7's are really great! Between the T100 & Int it is the only choice if you want to LST . Over the T100 it has a 5.5 gal (21 litre) tank, 6 speed gearbox that does 90mph / 145kph indicated at a leisurely effort, shaft driven, a better seat & riding position + the 4- pot Brembos up front.
I am a 5'4" lady in my 50's. I have had my Guzzi VIII Stone for just over a year and absolutely love it. The low centre of gravity makes it easier for me to manoeuvre and feels really solid and grounded. It's looks are fantastic. Commenting on why people don't buy them, I bought mine second hand with only 250 miles on the clock. This seems to be a common occurrence with many v7's for sale with low mileage. On the point of getting replacement parts, my husband and I had our bikes stolen in Edinburgh in June, after an amazing trip around the NC500. I was lucky enough to have the Guzzi recovered, (my husband's Versys is still missing). I have been waiting about a month now for a replacement key and lock set. None are available in the UK and my local Guzzi dealership cannot confirm when my order will arrive??? Cost to replace the keys and lock, about £210 😱
My Motor Guzzi V7 did 200,000 Kms before I retired. I referred to it as my "Urban Assault". Incredible for city traffic.
It is the world's best kept secret. Wherever I aimed my headlights, I knew my "urban assault" would get me back. I did not need any grandiose talk up about other bike
This tester is "Bonneville bedonered". Moto Guzzi owners do not have much time for other bikes - that is to say that when person buys a car / bike / anything they have specific ideals that make up "the checkbox".
Moto Guzzi is "that" bike which I will not look beyond. It is everything I need in what I choose to be a good road user and religious biker, Nuff said!
I sat on a V7 today for the first time and within minutes I feel in love. I Am in pursuit of a purchase currently. It just felt right!
I bought a MotoGuzzi V7 III Milano in 2021 as my first MotoCycle and i really love it since. Loved your video too because everything you say about this bike is true.
The Milano’s a beauty!😍. Thanks Martin, really glad you enjoyed the video!🙂
Hi from Perth W.Australia. I can’t walk out of a shop, helmet in hand, or just motorcycle jacket on, without someone asking if the Moto Guzzi is mine. It’s makes me very happy 😊. Also the fact that it’s a 2012 V7 Stone purchased in 2019 for $6000 aus and I have now seen them on sale for $9000 plus. Side note, Royal Enfield manufactured in India, Moto Guzzi manufactured in Italy, Triumph manufactured in ?? 😉
The Mandello V100 will be the one, could be a game changer for Moto Guzzi
Excellent comment; I highly agree!!
This looks very very good!
My partner has a 2006 Moto Guzzi Nevada (750cc_) and she has had a lot of trouble finding mechanics to work on her bike as they often tell her that Guzzi's are hard to work on. But since we moved from the Pacific Northwest (Washington) to South Dakota, we have remedied that problem finding lots of service here for any bike. She always gets tons of compliments for its looks!
Very good and balanced review - good work. I am lucky enough to have 4 completely different bikes in my garage but the V7 is always my first choice - it's just so easy to ride. I love the classic styling and easy maintenance and although they are not for everyone the exude a certain charm. My one and only reason for not buying the Bonnie over the Guzzi was as per your observation the Bonnie was more refined and I like my bikes to feel like they are actually doing something underneath me. The beauty of this great hobby is that personal choice is alive and well :)
As an Italian I can openly tell that most of Italians have a very poor fantasy when choosing a bike or a car and that fantasy has a name: BMW, you nailed it.
I like Guzzi, MV Augusta, Harley Davidson, Triumph.
Like in Italy and here in the USA people buy BMW because everyone does and it is related on “people who made it in life” for some reason but if you buy a Guzzi people think that you are a vintage weirdo with no style nor class.
Thanks for this video, I’m with you on this subject. I have a Moto Guzzi V7 Mk111 Special with wire wheels. It is the bike that for me includes more motorcycling passion than almost every other bike on the market today, mine is a keeper. Pity about the Italians obsession with the GS, I thought they had more taste than that. The GS is a valid bike but does not inspire me anywhere near as much as the Moto Guzzi or Ducati brands.
I stumbled on this video and I have to comment. Being an Italian I have to. Many Italians prefer buying BMW or Honda simply because they are reliable motorbikes, that's IT! We are (in Italy) all aware of how old Guzzi is and what it has represented in the past, but that is gone now. AND we know it. As some experienced commenters have said, Guzzi bikes are not reliable and are expensive. They have lots of issues that show up before and after warranty expires. We are ANGRY with Piaggio (the owner and responsible for this disaster) for not building bikes that should be up to their history and reputation. They are beatiful?? Yes, they are beautiful ... but that's it. Are they nice to ride the first time you jump on ? Yes, they are... but in the long run it's a bet! You might be lucky and buy a faultless bike or be unlucky (as I have been and will never do it again!) and pay money and be stressed out on something that instead should provide you with pleasure.... joy.... satisfaction... and for an Italian: PRIDE. Is anybody willing to bet all that money??? There are many Italians who will defend this brand to their teeth, but I (and so many other Italians) can't defend any brand (Italian or foreign) that asks 14 K euros for a bike that after 2/3 years turns into a piece of mechanical crap.
So... think before saying silly things over the "Italians" or over any other nation actually....
I think you’re right Freddie, it’s image, poor marketing. In the 70’s and 80’s they had the V7 Sport and the Le Mans I and they were seen as the coolest, fastest bikes you could buy then. The current V7 looks dull and the low hp doesn’t help.
coolest and fastest ?never in a million miles
They were always behind laverda on both or for an even more niche marque MV Augusta
and that's just a couple of the Italian brands
The 3 big Italian sports bikes of the late 70s, Laverda Jota, Ducati 900SS and Moto Guzzi Le Mans. All great bikes, expensive but affordable. The MV Agusta Monza
was out of most peoples reach, therefore very few seen on UK roads.
@@splodge57 and the Benelli SEI too of course..
@@richardbartlett6932 Having owned a Jota and a 79 le mans and my friend a Ducati 900ss at the time you're kind of right, in a straight line the Jota was a good bit faster but was a bit of a pig to get round corners.
I ground a hole in the alternator cover and chamfered the domed lock nut on the primary drive so even riding it like a lunatic my friend on his 900ss would pull away on the bends, he later bought a Le mans which was much quicker than the Ducati, handled better than my Laverda and all in all offered the compromise. I was that impressed with his Le mans that I bought one and kept it for 10 years.
As for the SEI, they were just looked at as a novelty bike by us anyway.
I returned to road biking and bought a V7, it's a bit gutless, but having just turned 60 that's probably not a bad thing, I just avoid motorways and fast A roads.
Went to the Moto Guzzi dealer here in Wisconsin and sat on a V7 Stone. What a lovely bike.
Having ridden for over 50 years on Nortons, Ducatis, Triumphs, BSAs, Yamahas, and currently a V7 Stone/ Racer hybrid, I have to say that theV7 is maybe the most comfortable ride I've owned. I'm 5'8" and 175lbs, and it's a perfect fit.
As I have so far had to wait 14 months for the supply of a warranty replacement, "Tank Badge" from another Italian motorcycle manufacturer, I can completely see why this machine will remain the preserve of the "Enthusiast." I love everything about the V7 and will probably have one as my next purchase, but I will buy it with my eyes open! Thanks for posting this entertaining presentation!
I'm a Guzzi owner, a 2008 Bellagio, my first Guzzi in fact and I love it. Guzzi's are quirky, reliable and have great character and I dont think I'd be without a Guzzi now going forward. I love the exclusivity of owning one, you dont see many of them around and they're in a niche of their own. If I had to replace my Bellagio I'd definitely look at the V7, I love the classic look of the V7, but I'd more likely get a V7 in addition to the Bellagio because I dont think you can have too many Guzzi's 🙂
I have six motorcycles. I'm looking to buy a V85TT Adventure to add to the herd. I have 2 Aprilia, a Moto Guzzi V9 Bobber full custom, BMW, KTM, blah, blah. My favorite is the V9.
My wife is asking me why I need so many bikes when I can only ride one at a time. I asked her, why do you have two drawers full of panties when you can only wear one at a time? No, you can't have too many Guzzis
I have a TT 85, Stornello VII scrambler and a VII racer with a sidecar. They are sooooooo cool and fun to ride.
@@ericmcdonald7313 Now we know that you're a nut case......but the good kind. We should merge our garages, Id love to ride the Stornello
Have to say that Guzzis are unique bikes. Because of that not a lot of riders love them, but they are still special bikes. I have to try one and I will, I mean the new V7. You will be able to check it when I will upload it. :)
@@RRRRefuelRideRace Do it !!!! We will watch it.
Dear Freddie! Thanks for the video. I have watched it so many times, that I could repeat your words 😂 based on your video I bought myself a V7 😮 and it’s perfect. Exact the V7 of your video (type 3 with the night pack) only the red version. Above the new one, because this version is more sexy shaped (headlight and rear). Thanks to you! Have a nice day, greetings from the Netherlands.
Interesting to see a Moto Guzzi reviewed from this perspective - *your* perspective, as a Triumph owner/rider. And I personally think you answered the "why is it not more popular?" question pretty accurately. Marketing, Dealer availability, etc. Points for learning about the centenary ( check out the 100 years badge the current models are sporting - classy!) - and points, too, for pronouncing the brand name correctly! Shame you didn't get it up into the twistys in the hills, though. (o;
Don't you love those reviewers criticizing bikes they know so little about and can't even say the name of the brand correctly?
Agree. I’d buy one…if I had the money. The new Stone Corsa looks absolutely amazing and retro. It’s the one I would get.
Hi Freddie, Happy New Year! Nice video! Before I owned a v7 cafe 2009. Had it for 12 years. Same specs as the one you tested in the video . For me the feel of the enige won me over to buy one. It's all rocking to the right when you rev it . It makes noises, it Just has soul! For me the lack of power was not an issue......This year I bought a V7 850 special in grey. A stunning bike in my eyes! Moto guzzi has taken too heart all the lesser points and they have done their homework this time. Longer suspension travel, lager more comfortable seat and a fair bit more power ! Now you've got a hell of a tourer, but still with all the class of the former ones. Give this one a try as well some day, you will be pleasantly surprised. Greetings from the Netherlands and keep up the good work!
And I thought I was the only one in the Netherlands that bought a V7 850 Special in grey. All advertised ones are in blue..
Heej dude, no apparenttly not......😉. When did you get your grey one? I got mine only in November, did Just 600 km on it. How do you like your guzzi? Can't wait to do some more miles on it!
I live in Rijswijk ( zuid Holland)
@@reneroozendaal5493 I got mine in August from Motor Oost in Enter. I live in Zutphen, the place to be... Nice riding in the Achterhoek and Twente (although more and more speed bumps). I am a big Guzzi fan, although I don't dismiss the odd BMW either. The V7 has always been my favourite bike, although I am also a fan of the California 1100, I currently have the California Vintage 90 Anniversario (next to a V85TT Centenario and 1975 V7 850GT). Difficult to chose between the V7 III Special (nicer exhaust sound, nicer vibes) and the V7 850 Special (more power, better suspension). I currently did some 2000 km on V7 850. If you want a V-Twin, air-cooling and shaft drive (and lots of character) there is only Moto Guzzi..
Wow, you have quite a collection! Zutphen is a beautiful town and you have a lot more open space then where I live. Good for you ! Before the V7 cafe I owned a yamaha xjr 1300. A lovely bike, but there is something about a guzzi . It' s very contagious like a virus....lol. Thanks for replying. Take care! Ciao
Today youtube recommended me this video. Now I am kinda addicted to this channel. I have watched three videos so far. I thoroughly enjoyed the road trip from England to tenerife series. I am planning to watch one more video before I go to sleep. I am wondering why this channel does not have a lot of subscribers.
Congratulations for the video. The new V7 has about the same performance as the new Street Twin Triumph, however it is not the performance that is looking for those who buy a Guzzi V7 (although IMHO 65hp and 73 nm are fun anyway) but the character the sensations that it transmits to you, those vibrations "the good ones" that no other bike can give, and the sound. And then there's that particular style with that protruding engine that you can't find elsewhere. If you have the chance try the new V7, you will not regret it
I don’t really consider lateral vibrations knock and you say decide as character I think after being on the bike for a while it’s going to be quite annoying and uncomfortable
@@allans7281 sorry to contradict you but the V7 has a great character, the vibrations don't cause the slightest annoyance even after hundreds of kilometres, I advise you to take a test ride to understand what I am saying, describing it in words is impossible.
@@Solo_Rider_V7 I rode a 2022 model amd went on highway. Are you staying at highway speeds there’s no vibration?
@@allans7281 the highway is not the best environment for the V7, it has no aerodynamic protection, it is a bike that is appreciated on mountain roads, great torque and handling, the vibrations are there but they are never annoying either on the hands or on the back.
I was out riding with my buddies on my California . Stopped for lunch, and my one of the guys says “Italian, any issues ?”. Me “not one”. One mile later total electrical failure and I am stranded 100 miles from home. Now this happens, but the problem was a 50 cent connector that had burnt out. I think that’s the issue. Engine, gearbox etc., bulletproof, but the small things leave you stranded. Very frustrating. And soon after the tach went out, then the fuel pump, grabby clutch . All on 4K miles. Had to go
Just got my A2 license a few days ago. Was deciding between Interceptor, Bonneville and the v7. Test rode all of them. The Bonneville felt and looked too modern for me. Though the quality was awesome. The Interceptor rode smooth and I liked the looks, but on some points the quality was noticable. Nothing bad in relation to the price.
But on a test ride with the Guzzi, I lost my heart. For some reason I just love the design and the "good vibrations". Waiting for delivery now. But I'm confident about my choice. Think motorbikes are less of a rational decision than an emotional one.
I bought one of these bikes (a 2013 one) a few months ago purely because I liked the idea of a shaft drive, and I absolutely love it. Really nice big bike, never had compliments on a bike before but people love it, and I think they look fantastic. Love just rumbling along feeling good, yeah it rumbles but you know you're sat on a motorcycle.
Nice work as ever Freddie - The Moto Guzzi's tend not to appeal to me for some reason but your video has made me have a rethink that maybe I should look a little closer. I had a look at the Moto Guzzi website and the V7 Special 850 in "Blu Formale" is a beautiful looking thing and available for £8,600.....a good looking bike for sure, I'm just concerned a potential lack of power ad maybe too much character (ie thumpy vibes) might be too much of an off-put.....Cleearly I need to have a go on one! Cheers mate and Happy New Year to you and Monika (sp?).....
I'm such a big fan of your channel! It's good to see you here supporting another enthusiast and being open minded about a motorcycle you might not have seriously considered before.
It would be a crying shame Andy if you didn’t add the Guzzi V7 850 Special to your 2022 review schedule. I’ve been fortunate to have ridden and owned every genre of bike over the past 56 years. My Guzzi 1200 Sport was the most soulful machine I ever owned and deeply regret selling it. With Guzzi’s you need to take your time to appreciate them and once they get under your skin you’re seduced for life. Try one!
For someone who always claims to like small bikes, i cannot fathom your "lack of power" comment. A bike that could sit at 90mph all day (if it was even legal), just how fast does it need to be? Too many people hung up on numbers, and not real world performance. No one needs a road going bike with 160+hp. But hey, toys for the boys........
Ride one! Try it out...
@@gavinthomas5999 Absolutely true
I own the exact model, I enjoyed you review very much. I love my 2019. It is easy to ride and has enough power for my needs. I am 69 years old and this bike makes me feel like a kid again. The electronics are a bit temperamental and it does have a few niggles ( as you Brits would say) but they are easily overlooked when up and riding. Here in the states I don't believe they are marketed very well. Also shops for service are few and far between. Fortunately for me there is a very good shop about half an hours ride from me, where the owner and his staff are extremely competent wrenchs. This will probably be my swan 🎵 song for as iong as I'm able to ride. Cheerio old chap
I loved my 20’ V7III Stone S with the exception of their display. Mine had a glitch that after three trips to the dealer, they could still not figure out. I ended up trading it for a V85TT which I like a lot more but it’s not near as good looking. Very sweet engine. Maybe not a screamer but wow, it is fun to ride and really looks cool. Good review Mr. Dobbs
I was going to buy a Guzzi 1050 I think. Shaft drive, great looks, lots of class...but then there was the clunky gearbox, the lack of power and I ended up with a Suzuki 1400 GSX. I've still got it 12 years later, not a single problem and I love that power every time I put my leg over it...sorry Guzzi, would love to have one...maybe one day :-)
I owned a V7 ll stone, a beautiful looking and charactful bike, however for me performance and brakes didn't quite do it for me and I moved on to a Monster 696 which I loved, so much so I still have a Monster 1000ie. Cheers Freddie and Monica.
The Monster 1000ie must be a serious weapon!💪🏼
I can see why for some, the power wouldn’t be enough.
Thanks for your input, Dave!🙂
@@FreddieDobbs surprisingly a modest bhp for a near litre bike, mine has been mapped for a Termignoni system which brings it up to 90bhp, but where it really scores is low and mid level torque is wonderful.
My best friend bought a 2013 V7 Racer about two years ago. When I saw it in the showroom, I thought it was new. I think it appealed to my friend because of its classic look. It had about 7k (kilometers) on it. Neither of us had any familiarity with the brand. I was surprised by the problems that began to show up immediately.
1. The sparkplug wires shorted out because they were routed through a notch in the metal valve cover. The misfiring caused discoloration of one of the mufflers. We made new plug wires and added extra insulation at the weak points.
2. The sidestand would work its way down on a bumpy road, to the point it shut the motor off. We found using the right lubrication and keeping it well lubricated solves the problem...mostly.
3. The seals went in the back wheel and leaked lubricant all over the wheel and tire. The wheel was removed and taken to an independent shop. They seem to have done a good job, no leaks.
4. The bike would crank, but was reluctant to start. The discolored half plastic fuel filter inside the tank was replaced. Starting problem still persisted. The best solution seems to be....turn on the key, wait 30 seconds, then crank the motor. This procedure has not been thoroughly tested yet.
We are both are now hopeful that my friend can now enjoy his bike. It is fun to ride. His other bike is a 1999 Ural, which he has had for about 8 years. The Ural has had very few problems. My 2009 Burgman has had zero problems in 83k.
I am left wondering why a legacy design, with new technology applied, like fuel injection, could be so troublesome. Dealers support is not very good here. The few dealers here don't sell many.
Excellent review......love your passion! And you covered almost everything except the ease of maintenance. Valve adjustment takes 20 or 30 minutes and of course the shaft drive is a huge advantage. I own a 2020 V7III Special and owning and riding it is pure joy. I have 2 dealers within 90 minutes of me here in NJ and the one I bought it from has been excellent and knowledgeable. And I did have a Covid time warranty issue.....needed a new tachometer and expected a 2 month wait for the part. They had it the next day and installed it while I waited! For anyone in the area that was Blackmann's Cycle in Emmaus, Pa. One note about the size of the bike: The wheelbase is 57.2", .1" longer than the Triumph Bonneville or Street twin, so it is not really a small bike, but it is a low bike. And one more thing that cool engine design brings. Not having cylinder heads stuffed up under the tank mean there is more room for fuel and the V7 holds 5.3 gallons in that gorgeous tank, so really nice long range. As for the 52 hp on the pre 2022 model, I agree that it is a bit underpowered for 2 riders, but for solo it is great. Gobs of torque in the 3,500 to 6.500 range. Well done on the review, thanks!
The 'Special, is a more attractive machine than the one shown here. Chrome is more work but looks so much better. I like spoked wheels also.
"The shaft drive is a huge advantage." This in regard to maintenance, yes? Actually, the fact that MG relies on the shaft drive may be a reason why the MG is not so popular in the United States, where performance is the paramount concern. Shaft drive is less efficient than the chain for power transmission. In addition, for some riders torque reaction due to the lateral flywheel may be scary.
I owned a 2018 V7 III Special and sold it with 3,500 miles on the clock after three years.Simple answer why more are not sold, for me: build quality. I always had one problem or another. It left me stranded almost immediately after I bought it for a serious oil leak. The final straw was when the instrument gauge popped out of its housing while I was riding it on a perfectly smooth road (a known issue on 2018's Aprilia chose to not help with). I loved the look of the bike, but the build quality wasn't there.
Great video as usual Freddie! I think really the new V100 will be a key turning moment for Guzzi and sell well, but only if they like you say market it right. It’s one of my top 8 bike pics for 2022 on my latest podcast. 👍
Thanks!🙂 I agree with you- the V100 looks reeeeeally good!😍
I've owned my V7 III Anniversario since new in 2018. Done all my own maintenance and never had a single issue. Absolutely bulletproof and a blast to ride.
Unfortunately as stated by so many others. Most of the dealers are garbage to deal with. Though if you are in BC, Canada, International Motorsports in Vancouver will make you very, very happy. Completely aces guys.
I love that you don‘t really care about Ridermodes and all that crap haha anyways here in Vienna/Austria, there are quite a lot of those around the city. You see as many of these as Bonnevilles. My budy actually rides one and he always makes fun of the rest of us when we maintain our Chains or when we need a gasstation every 150-180miles. But it‘s really, really small therefore no competition for a Bonneville.
Great to hear how it is in Austria, and that they’re as common as Bonnevilles! This is a big selling point for me- I love the idea of having no chain maintenance!
Great review. I've just upgrade from a 1996 Moto Guzzi Nevada to a 2019 V7III Stone. Love the sound, love the little sideways twitch, love the shaft drive. They are definitely an under rated bike.
I put some Guzzi tech pipes on my v7iii and it sounds boss. I recommend taking off those long euro pipes it knocks like 18lbs off the weight of the bike too.
I got 2 thoughts - 1. 99,9% of society in general buy BMW GS... even in Britain if you look who you meet on a road. 2. V7 is an awesome retro bike, but most people choose something else at the end - like you did. Or like I chosen my w800. Cheers
I'd love to ride a W800, so curious. I wonder how it compares to the new V7 850 Guzzi.
@@tedmarakas2626 I know one person who got both (but the old V7 750). Asked which one is better he answered: whichever I rode the last...
@@UncleLongbeard Enough said.
Very enjoyable review what attracts me of the V7 besides its design is the shaft drive, clean and maintenance free
Fantastic video as always, perfect way to start a Sunday. My wife is looking for her first bike, the Interceptor was on her list but I think this could be a better option, given its weight and size - not to mention the looks. Thanks as always for giving us an honest review, already looking forward to the next one :)
Thanks Paul!🙂
This is an easier bike to ride than the Interceptor, so would be brilliant for your wife’s first bike. The Guzzi’s centre of gravity and seat height are lower than the Interceptor, so much easier to manage🙂👌🏻
Dont discount the W800 though, another great bike worth considering. She should ride them all before deciding. Theres always time and always another bike, the key to riding safely for first-timers ,is the ergonomics. What feels great to you, might not for her. Many reviewers have commented on how the RE650's inspired confidence by how they ride, this is crucially important.
I've always been interested in this bike, though it's curious you mention it as being small, and perhaps it is for someone 6'+ but for a 5'5" person such as myself I found it way too big as a beginner bike, much larger than a Speed Twin for example.
why ? because the retail network is CRAP !
i've just acquired my A2 licence ... i asked if i could test drive an A2 model ... the answer was " i convert the bike to A2 only if you buy it ... no test drive" ... so i bought a BMW R nine T
Here in The Netherlands, a good Guzzi servicepoint is not far a way. You have motordrivers and you have Guzzi drivers. I own 4 Guzzi,s Imola 350 Lario650 Strada 750 and Breva 1200 for long distance. The quality of the painting etc under Piaggio is better then in the eighties. Character of the engine is awsome.