hmmm no. I think when qled gets out it will be cheaper than oled. But this is a lot better than a projector with all the cables and such. Only downside is that you cant place your centre speaker anymore.
Not a chance, best we can wish for is affordable 75 inchers. Anything above that is a fantasy. These short throw projectors can create a theater like picture for a lot less. Xiaomi already sells a simillar projector for little over 1k. If thses things gain mainstream appeal, prices would drop immensely.
I think this type of projectors are the future. Setting up a 65 or 75 inch TV is already a pain, too big. But with 4k and 8k we will want bigger than 75 inch and people won't want to set up a 100 inch TV, also the cost of a 100 inch TV is a lot (production, transport etc). We will use projectors like this. quick note: if you say something incorrect then don't correct like this lol. Just use on screen text like this " *100 inch" :)
I've always felt like 4K is meant for projectors. With little 55-65" Tv's 1080p is plenty. 4K really is'nt even a noticable improvement unless you're sitting 4 feet away.. So at normal distances of 10-15 feet, projectors, with their easy 100+" display areas really do seem like the best way to go.
Adam Majorcsik a modular screen made of smaller panels could become a practical if expensive option. Four 80 inches panels panels could be combined to create a 160 inches screen that would occupy a 60 degrees angle of view at a standard ten feet viewing distance. Obviously two of the sides on each panel would need to have no bezels and be perfectly aligned, calibrated, and synced to each other.
@bliglum I hear that a lot and I completely disagree with it. It may not matter to everyone, but many people have the acuity to see the difference if they are viewing critically. Further, if we're talking about "premium" home theater equipment, *everything* matters.
@Soylencer Okay, I've heard of people with hawkeye 20/10 vision. But for most with 20/20, 4k is difficult to appreciate without a huge size or close viewing distance.
bliglum I actually wear glasses for distance, I'm just very sensitive to aliasing, for lack of a better term. typically text or animation is the giveaway for me. I also am not one of those people that turns the sharpeness down to compensate for noise... I paid for the best fine detail in 4k, telling the TV to be *less* detailed is not something I'm interested in, so higher fidelity content is valuable to me. I have what I consider a trained eye, which means I'm probably jaded. I am not an audiophile though, so I'm sure someone can have an opposite discussion with me about audio. :) Different things matter to different people. It's one thing to say that better is unnecessary, because good enough is good enough. It's another thing to refute whether better is actually necessary. Especially when we're talking about purely luxury premium items -- we don't *need* TV in the first place; I had an opportunity and resources to get the (objectively) best one.
It has been a few years since the introduction of the VZ1000ES, what is your opinion now. Still a good buy, or go for the newer Samsung LSP9T that is not native 4k but has some interesting features. What I find the most important is 4k picture quality and color coverage, with minimum side effects like rainbow effect. Main use is in the living room, so there will be some ambient light from time to time.
Which screen do you use? I gues it comes from small country in scandinavia, or are you not allowed to say that? It is at least as important as projector itself. Same setup with white screen would look bad. BTW I like your videos they are pro without woodoo factor.
Got a reply back from Sony: "o Yes, the projector can be ceiling mounted. o A professional installer could advise further on mounting in a void once they had seen the space. You would need to ensure it was receiving adequate ventilation to do so."
Can you mount this projector on the ceiling? (as you can the new LG laser projector?) I mean you can't put it on the floor in front of the screen where the centre channel speaker should be. In some setups on the floor or in-wall...so you're not forced to put the speaker behind the screen (inside the wall).
How does this compare to the other UST projectors on the market? Are there features that justify its price point nowadays? Does Sony have an updated model or plans to release a more consumer friendly (affordable) version?
Hello Vincent, is that thing still future proof or is the lg hu850 and upcoming products compareable? It has still the best input lag, native 4k, is bright, good black levels.. I can get this one for 6k but could also go for a newer or even cheaper one. Currently I have the 1080p Xiaomi.
Vincent any idea if/when you will be doing a proper review on this? Also has Sony given any indication about Dolby vision support coming with a future update?
Vincent, I'd like to know how this projector will compare to Sony's new 100" Tv for 2021. Can you do some comparisons between Sony's 2021 TV's and their projector line up.
@@zymgoaprog4278 It was a general comment about comparing today's tv to today's projectors. Considering in the past projectors were always on top I was wondering if TVs have surpassed them with the newest offerings coming out.
I love it and would love to own it for vacations, setup shop with a ALR 100in screen & the UST will be a welcomed upgrade to the terrible displays I see when on vacation, don't get me wrong I'm on vacation to chill but I can't have terrible television, no disrespect to the places I stay they are great but the worse part is usually the TV, too small, too old, low picture quality, this could be my answer at the perfect price, thanks for sharing a detailed review of Sony VPL-VZ1000ES!
why vacations? u seem to like to vacation a lot. do u like vacation here and there? are you on vacation now? Where do you vacation? Can I Vacation with you?
One major problem with short-throw projectors such as this Sony is actually not with the picture quality but the design itself. In that the idea is to put the projector as close to the screen as possible when you can't or don't want a projector mounted on the ceiling towards the back of the room or at the very back. But here lies the problem. Where do you put the centre channel speaker??? :) The projector would be sitting where the centre channel speaker would be. You'd need to put the speakers in-wall which limits the brands/models you can use to the B&W Custom Series and the JBL Synthesis. If you want to use traditional speakers and place them out in the open you'd need to rear-project the image with this Sony. Which might bother some people. If they don't create a custom space (e.g. opening in the wall for the Sony projector so that it can still rear-project onto the back of the screen and not be sitting in the room. Sounds like a PITA to me. I think you'd have to really love the picture quality of this type of projector to use it in one's custom HT room. But being as owners are likely going to have a custom built HT room...those annoyances shouldn't be an issue. But things to consider before buying.
Got a reply back from Sony: "o This would be a job for a custom installer to propose the best home theatre audio equipment to create the total solution."
Hallo,I am the owner of the LSPX-W1S 4K projector for more then one year.Now Sony came out with the VPL-VZ1000ES for half the price with the features I am missing in the LSPX-W1S. Will there be a firmware upgrade for HDMI 2.00 and HDR.I do not understand why they also cannot build in then the HDMI 2.00 ,because I am using the Oppo 205,En missing the 4K resesoltion. I would like to return this projector to Sony for update.Because it looks similar as the VPL-1000ES .With the same laser build in. Hope to hear some comment from Sony.
Dell has a similar projector for $5000, so soon other manufacturers will follow. With competition and more sales come lower prices. I should be able to buy one of these in 2 years, I bet buy that time these units will be about 1000-5000, which will make more sense.
hi Explained! That's what I also want to know. The screen seems very dark, maybe it is a black screen. Go to google and write this: "black diamond screen"! Then you will find some internet-links to youtube and also pictures about this innovation. The Black Diamond is my favourite! ;) good luck!
The price and size sort of doesn't make sense when you consider that it's outputting only 2500 lumens vs a much cheaper and smaller tri-laser projector like the award winning foremovie theater is outputting 2800 (white and color). So what gives? Are sony making their units larger just to attempt to fool the consumer into thinking they are better? This device clearly isn't winning any awards for quality so who in the right mind would pay a premium for a larger device that doesn't compare to cheaper smaller ones?
Sorry, I did not pay attention to the introduction of the projector. I was worried about the safety of the mountain goats. Wrong choice of demonstration video.
Remember, years ago people paid an absurd amount of money for a couple of megabytes of storage. Now a 2TB SSD costs under $500. This will be the future of television. Once you passed the 80 inches mark a solid display would be too costly.
Actually they say brightness is more important. If you have a good bright projector you can play with the contrast. That's why I never fell for the Sony Projectors that preach 150,000:1 contrast and all the BS. If the lumens are dark it's not worth it. Sony projectors can barely get pass 3000 lumens.
Why can't they make hdr laser projectors they probably act like a plasma and a oled but without the tv taking up space in your room and you then just need a sound bar with lasers shooting at the wall lol I serisuly tho if they use this in.the cinemas then it must be better than oled but the cost is still insane why mess with oled when your staring at a screen which is bigger and better and maybe 8k projectors become a reality
Need a bit of advice Vicent if i may ask.. I am considering a new tv.. It's a toss up between the Sony ZD9 or the Samsung KS9500. I have seen the Sony for £3299.. The Samsung £1999.. Is the ZD9 worth the extra.. Thanks..
very good guy your analysis and tests ..of the devices ..just do not subscribe to your channel ..because I do not speak or understand anything in English. but congratulations 😐👏👏👏 I'm brazilian.
2500 lumens is not bright enough. $25,000 is not a good price for a 2500 lumens projector. I have an NEC 5000 lumens protector and it's way brighter than this projector. Don't be fooled because its a short throw. It means nothing. For $25,000 i'll get a really good professional NEC or Christie projector. And those will be in the 8000 to 12000 lumens output.
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Let's get it down to 2500 and I'm in
i think we'll be more likely to see 100" OLED panels get to $3000 before we'll see this tech go down anywhere below $5000
hmmm no.
I think when qled gets out it will be cheaper than oled.
But this is a lot better than a projector with all the cables and such.
Only downside is that you cant place your centre speaker anymore.
Try Xiaomi Mi 150 inch laser TV for 1250 Euro!
Well, you could... (Even I'm considering it right now.) But I guess that in a few years 1080p just won't be enough for you.
same thinking
This is the future of TV. They will get brighter and hopefully more affordable over time.
No. The future of TV is probably with the handheld device you just typed your comment on
Yeah, i cant wait for an 80 inch phone.....
You know there is a difference between 75 inches and 100+ inches.
Not a chance, best we can wish for is affordable 75 inchers. Anything above that is a fantasy. These short throw projectors can create a theater like picture for a lot less. Xiaomi already sells a simillar projector for little over 1k. If thses things gain mainstream appeal, prices would drop immensely.
yeah, but not in few years, in 10 years ? Maybe....
I'm glad he mentioned price first so I could go back to another video I was watching
Oh I want one... But for 25 000 dollar, chances are I will spent this money rather on a brand new Honda Civic...
My Friend, here in Brazil $25k is the same as R$ 200.000k. Believe me :/
I could get one for 10k. Should I go for it?
A 4K HDR Laser Projector for between £999 to £2000 is what I will buy hands down.
I think this type of projectors are the future. Setting up a 65 or 75 inch TV is already a pain, too big. But with 4k and 8k we will want bigger than 75 inch and people won't want to set up a 100 inch TV, also the cost of a 100 inch TV is a lot (production, transport etc). We will use projectors like this.
quick note: if you say something incorrect then don't correct like this lol. Just use on screen text like this " *100 inch" :)
I've always felt like 4K is meant for projectors. With little 55-65" Tv's 1080p is plenty. 4K really is'nt even a noticable improvement unless you're sitting 4 feet away.. So at normal distances of 10-15 feet, projectors, with their easy 100+" display areas really do seem like the best way to go.
Adam Majorcsik a modular screen made of smaller panels could become a practical if expensive option. Four 80 inches panels panels could be combined to create a 160 inches screen that would occupy a 60 degrees angle of view at a standard ten feet viewing distance. Obviously two of the sides on each panel would need to have no bezels and be perfectly aligned, calibrated, and synced to each other.
@bliglum I hear that a lot and I completely disagree with it. It may not matter to everyone, but many people have the acuity to see the difference if they are viewing critically. Further, if we're talking about "premium" home theater equipment, *everything* matters.
@Soylencer Okay, I've heard of people with hawkeye 20/10 vision. But for most with 20/20, 4k is difficult to appreciate without a huge size or close viewing distance.
bliglum I actually wear glasses for distance, I'm just very sensitive to aliasing, for lack of a better term. typically text or animation is the giveaway for me.
I also am not one of those people that turns the sharpeness down to compensate for noise... I paid for the best fine detail in 4k, telling the TV to be *less* detailed is not something I'm interested in, so higher fidelity content is valuable to me.
I have what I consider a trained eye, which means I'm probably jaded. I am not an audiophile though, so I'm sure someone can have an opposite discussion with me about audio. :)
Different things matter to different people. It's one thing to say that better is unnecessary, because good enough is good enough. It's another thing to refute whether better is actually necessary. Especially when we're talking about purely luxury premium items -- we don't *need* TV in the first place; I had an opportunity and resources to get the (objectively) best one.
These are half price at the moment in Canada- still worth buying? Will Sony ever update its UST projector line?
KNACK 2 ON 100"TV WITH HDR!!! HERE WE GOOO!!!.
KNAAAACK 2 BABYYYY
I can't get "Batcave" out of my mind.
It has been a few years since the introduction of the VZ1000ES, what is your opinion now.
Still a good buy, or go for the newer Samsung LSP9T that is not native 4k but has some interesting features.
What I find the most important is 4k picture quality and color coverage, with minimum side effects like rainbow effect.
Main use is in the living room, so there will be some ambient light from time to time.
Which screen do you use? I gues it comes from small country in scandinavia, or are you not allowed to say that? It is at least as important as projector itself. Same setup with white screen would look bad. BTW I like your videos they are pro without woodoo factor.
What screen do u use here?
could this projector be vertically mounted to say be mounted in a void above a wall ? or are you stuck with a ground installation?
We'll have to clarify with Sony and get back to you.
Guess temperature dissipation would become a problem in top mount..
Got a reply back from Sony:
"o Yes, the projector can be ceiling mounted.
o A professional installer could advise further on mounting in a void once they had seen the space. You would need to ensure it was receiving adequate ventilation to do so."
HDTVTest thank you for finding out
getting it, just gotta sell my house first.
your house costs $17K? Where do u live in a Toyota Corolla?
Hahahahahahahahha^^
Maybe you overpaid your things like all the usa ppl does!
😂🤣🤣👆🏿
Can you mount this projector on the ceiling? (as you can the new LG laser projector?) I mean you can't put it on the floor in front of the screen where the centre channel speaker should be. In some setups on the floor or in-wall...so you're not forced to put the speaker behind the screen (inside the wall).
A step down from SONY's even wider (and more expensive) model...Crazy product.
seems like a bargain at $20,000
What I know is that it is great for the HDR gaming!
Does this projector have auto alignment? been curious about ordering this?
Forget the projector, I wouldnt even ve able to afford the screen its projecting onto.
incredible projector and great review mate
How does this compare to the other UST projectors on the market? Are there features that justify its price point nowadays? Does Sony have an updated model or plans to release a more consumer friendly (affordable) version?
this is a perfect projector for someone that just wants a nice simple setup. $20k seems fair.
that's really bright images!
Hello Vincent, is that thing still future proof or is the lg hu850 and upcoming products compareable? It has still the best input lag, native 4k, is bright, good black levels.. I can get this one for 6k but could also go for a newer or even cheaper one. Currently I have the 1080p Xiaomi.
did u get one? or go with LG one?
LG seems compact with samrt hub built in
Sony is true 4k
just curious...for 6k seems like a good deal
Are the blacks up to or similar to what OLED TV delivers please?
hi Vincent, can you review the Hisense Laser TV? Do you think it is disruptive technology?
Vincent any idea if/when you will be doing a proper review on this? Also has Sony given any indication about Dolby vision support coming with a future update?
Been offered the opportunity, but too busy to take it up. Dolby Vision is currently not available on home cinema projectors.
Vincent, I'd like to know how this projector will compare to Sony's new 100" Tv for 2021. Can you do some comparisons between Sony's 2021 TV's and their projector line up.
The TV is 10x brighter and has 8K resolution. There is no comparsion.
@@zymgoaprog4278 It was a general comment about comparing today's tv to today's projectors. Considering in the past projectors were always on top I was wondering if TVs have surpassed them with the newest offerings coming out.
Correct me if am wrong but isn't 25k € enough money to get massive and probably over 4k TV ?
I love it and would love to own it for vacations, setup shop with a ALR 100in screen & the UST will be a welcomed upgrade to the terrible displays I see when on vacation, don't get me wrong I'm on vacation to chill but I can't have terrible television, no disrespect to the places I stay they are great but the worse part is usually the TV, too small, too old, low picture quality, this could be my answer at the perfect price, thanks for sharing a detailed review of Sony VPL-VZ1000ES!
why vacations? u seem to like to vacation a lot. do u like vacation here and there? are you on vacation now? Where do you vacation? Can I Vacation with you?
Can you please do the comparison with Hisense laser tv which is available at 10000 USD?
Is Laser like cathode beam on crt?
Can you review the Epson 10500 Laser light projector?
Should come with a velvet chair with a cup holder.
Damn, I need this in my home :)
One major problem with short-throw projectors such as this Sony is actually not with the picture quality but the design itself. In that the idea is to put the projector as close to the screen as possible when you can't or don't want a projector mounted on the ceiling towards the back of the room or at the very back. But here lies the problem. Where do you put the centre channel speaker??? :) The projector would be sitting where the centre channel speaker would be. You'd need to put the speakers in-wall which limits the brands/models you can use to the B&W Custom Series and the JBL Synthesis. If you want to use traditional speakers and place them out in the open you'd need to rear-project the image with this Sony. Which might bother some people. If they don't create a custom space (e.g. opening in the wall for the Sony projector so that it can still rear-project onto the back of the screen and not be sitting in the room. Sounds like a PITA to me.
I think you'd have to really love the picture quality of this type of projector to use it in one's custom HT room. But being as owners are likely going to have a custom built HT room...those annoyances shouldn't be an issue. But things to consider before buying.
Got a reply back from Sony:
"o This would be a job for a custom installer to propose the best home theatre audio equipment to create the total solution."
Get a custom media cabinet that can house the projector on top and the center speaker in the front of the cabinet.
I don't have that projector but we Made our low Board higher so that the Center can be placed in it. So a UST projector can stand above it.
How is the OS r u able to use apps on it or do they have to be introduced by another source
is this better than optoma GT 5600 ?
i mean optoma has brightness of 3600 ANSI lumens while this one has only 2500 lumens.
Hallo,I am the owner of the LSPX-W1S 4K projector for more then one year.Now Sony came out with the VPL-VZ1000ES for half the price with the features I am missing in the LSPX-W1S. Will there be a firmware upgrade for HDMI 2.00 and HDR.I do not understand why they also cannot build in then the HDMI 2.00 ,because I am using the Oppo 205,En missing the 4K resesoltion.
I would like to return this projector to Sony for update.Because it looks similar as the VPL-1000ES .With the same laser build in.
Hope to hear some comment from Sony.
Dell has a similar projector for $5000, so soon other manufacturers will follow. With competition and more sales come lower prices. I should be able to buy one of these in 2 years, I bet buy that time these units will be about 1000-5000, which will make more sense.
Does anyone know what the video is that's playing on the projector?
sony vpl vfw 790 is better?
Nice, put a Ps4 video game on this
I can buy this, but I need to sell all of my body parts. hahahahha
And only $25,600 :D
Wrathorn That's cheaper than the $60,000 100" Z9D.
aww man that's nuts. I mean even if you got a million bucks, it's still a lot. Only for the really rich. Tho, I'd buy it If i had the money no prob
Wrathorn That's 5 years rent for me.
Wrathorn what a great deal.
I thought about that for my customers, but the people buying the Z9 are typically doing so for the vibrance.
Hey I just purchased one of these projectors I tried connecting it to an Apple TV 4k and nothing
What’s the screen being used?
I saw this at the Sony building in Manhattan.
How many nits???
hey whats the best settings for the hisence 8h
if i buy 2 do i get a 200 inch screen
LMAO! good one
Only if it has Lensshift.
Wuts that video on the screen at the start of the this review
This or Panasonic TH-98SQ1 ???
How big is your screen
+HDTVTest where to find this goat climbing video from 2:31 ?
It's from the Ultra HD Blu-ray of Planet Earth II, second episode.
Hi sir please review xgimi laser tv a1 pro that 4k one
That's like buying a car. If they have financing I'd buy it real quick.
What screen was used in this review?
A custom ambient-light rejecting screen developed by Marata Vision, the UK distributor of the projector.
How much for 3m width 16:9?
Also what gain is it?
@@hdtvtest Did Sony give up on Ultra Short Throw Projector ? Last UST projector from Sony (LSPX-A1) was available in 2018.
The price makes me feel two dimentional with X.x for eyes and foam om the mouth. And the air draft just tucks me under the nearest furniture.
no new model for sony since 2017 ?????
waiting for the black friday sale
Prices for 4k laser projectors around $2k in China.
Can't wait for the price to go down.
Name of that projector screen?
hi Explained! That's what I also want to know. The screen seems very dark, maybe it is a black screen. Go to google and write this: "black diamond screen"! Then you will find some internet-links to youtube and also pictures about this innovation. The Black Diamond is my favourite! ;) good luck!
how much?
I’m starting a go fund me for this
How it going?
Anyone know the name of the nature film used in the demo?
It's Planet Earth II.
those expensive speakers right up against the wall...I'm triggered.
Great looking projector though
Is it more expensive than my kidney?
1:03 somebody messed up his figures ;-)
i want it....off to sell my last kidney
I would do unspeakable things behind a truck stop bathroom for this thing😵
Looks pretty good but at 25k i can buy many 4k projectors that would outperform this for 5k.
Shmag the Sony VPL VW 760 is comparable and costs 15.000€
The price and size sort of doesn't make sense when you consider that it's outputting only 2500 lumens vs a much cheaper and smaller tri-laser projector like the award winning foremovie theater is outputting 2800 (white and color). So what gives? Are sony making their units larger just to attempt to fool the consumer into thinking they are better? This device clearly isn't winning any awards for quality so who in the right mind would pay a premium for a larger device that doesn't compare to cheaper smaller ones?
Sorry, I did not pay attention to the introduction of the projector. I was worried about the safety of the mountain goats. Wrong choice of demonstration video.
Why, when everyone watches videos on their smartphone or tablet.
Xiaomi laser projector @1080p and 5000 ANSI lumens for less than 2K.
Dear Santa
this projector costs more than a cinema projector
Knock a zero off the end of that price and i'm in... sheesh
I'm sorry. I could not concentrate on this review. I was glued to watching the goats on the mountain to see which one will fall to their death.
Worth about 6K at most. Ridiculous and absurd pricing. Over estimating market desire for product like this.
Sounds like you'd bitch if it was priced at $6,000.
Remember, years ago people paid an absurd amount of money for a couple of megabytes of storage. Now a 2TB SSD costs under $500. This will be the future of television. Once you passed the 80 inches mark a solid display would be too costly.
I love the Sony project but I'm home less Village boy India
I care about contrast,
Actually they say brightness is more important. If you have a good bright projector you can play with the contrast. That's why I never fell for the Sony Projectors that preach 150,000:1 contrast and all the BS. If the lumens are dark it's not worth it. Sony projectors can barely get pass 3000 lumens.
It looks real good man. I just saw it today at a Best Buy in San Antonio, TX. We thought it was a big 4K TV.
Why can't they make hdr laser projectors they probably act like a plasma and a oled but without the tv taking up space in your room and you then just need a sound bar with lasers shooting at the wall lol I serisuly tho if they use this in.the cinemas then it must be better than oled but the cost is still insane why mess with oled when your staring at a screen which is bigger and better and maybe 8k projectors become a reality
Major problem... Where the hell do you put your centre channel speaker/s.....mmm
Good point. We'll ask Sony.
Need a bit of advice Vicent if i may ask.. I am considering a new tv.. It's a toss up between the Sony ZD9 or the Samsung KS9500. I have seen the Sony for £3299.. The Samsung £1999.. Is the ZD9 worth the extra.. Thanks..
@@cp070476 Z9D light cannon is the best tv ever made.
*WHEN A VERSION WITH PRICE UNDER 6000€*
Did he just say BARGAIN for £17000
very good guy your analysis and tests ..of the devices ..just do not subscribe to your channel ..because I do not speak or understand anything in English. but congratulations 😐👏👏👏
I'm brazilian.
效果很牛啊
That dosen't look like a 4K tv.. looks like 1080p from here.
you joking??
@@MadeInManny0161TV is so big even your grandma can see the pixels. HAHA
$25k and only 100 inches at 6" throw? Thats not impressive at all. Look to your competitors.
25.000 euros.... No thank you...
Wwwwwoooooowwwwww
2500 lumens is not bright enough. $25,000 is not a good price for a 2500 lumens projector. I have an NEC 5000 lumens protector and it's way brighter than this projector. Don't be fooled because its a short throw. It means nothing. For $25,000 i'll get a really good professional NEC or Christie projector. And those will be in the 8000 to 12000 lumens output.
xw5000es プロジェクター
The future for a millionaire people....25000 euros?? 1/5of a house....crazy....
If anybody interested to buy this vz1000es, we will give u the remarkable price discount
Looks like crap at Best Buy.
No one has Baugh one yet.
Short what? 😆
Way too expensive Come on Sony
Why can’t I understand what he says??!! I hate it!