adam proctor Couldn't agree more mate. I've had my F30 335d xDrive for a year and can't get enough of it. Originally considered an M135 but with the amount of miles I do I just couldn't justify it. But the 335d is a great all rounder. 0-60 in 4.8 secs. 465lbft torque is immense. I drove from Folkestone to Paris and back to Bucks in one tank. I don't care what they say about diesels, this car does it all! ☺️
Hi Joe, It's a very nice BMW and it's good to see that Tony from the dealership is looking after you as you come across as a ambassador for BMW and to be fair you always give glowing reviews but also your always fair and that's important also your the type of guy people listen to as I do as I listen very carefully as to what you say and you always have good valid points your a top guy and truly enjoy your work. Regards Alan B
Cheers Alan, I know you have been a long time supporter and viewer of my channel, I really appreciate that man! And yeah it's great that Tony and Berry have come to my rescue, we can both benefit! Cheers
I picked my 2016 330d up last week and it's blown me away with it's breadth of ability. It's fast af and so refined too, I got it with pro-nav which makes a huge difference (would recommend), wanted these particular wheels but I got the older 19" variant. On a journey I get circa 55mpg.
Yeah I've spent loads of time in the amazing 330d, one of the best all round cars on this planet! Also my 730ld has that masterpiece of a motor on board. A fair amount more money (buying new) than the 320d. Enjoy
Hello, I have a 66 plate 330d touring with 19" wheels and auto box but I get nowhere near 55mpg. The only time I got close was driving to Scotland from Somerset to see my folks!! Best BMW I've had tho - torque is amazing in full sports using paddles :-)
M Ward Hey, I work in Manchester and is a circa 35 mile drive to Blackburn and I achieve 55mpg. Granted, I'm in eco-pro doing 72, but equally I drove to Norwich and achieved the same mpg. I think I'd get more but that coasting feature catches me out a lot and I tend to brake more.
Hi Joe, having run a 530d manual (2wd) in the Balkans with very harsh winters I do think that there is a great deal of paranoia about the need for 4wd. I was always able to find sufficient traction, the secret...use winter tyres....4wd also doesn't do much for braking. I would suggest that instead of the weight of 4wd and the everyday compromises you simply spend the money on winter tyres (which long term are almost free, because the summer ones don't wear out in the garage) and although I didn't have one, a torsen diff. You won't get stuck, will have more fun, use less fuel and will be able to stop much better in poor conditions. Great videos by the way and I think you have one on snow tyres. But can I ask you to use your large reach to educate on the safety benefits of winter tyres over 4wd. I talk with a great number of people who are less informed than you and think that they are Ari Vatenen with their x drive or quattro in the snow.....until they can't stop and crash on their summer tyres and wonder why their german computer didn't save them.
It is amazing how so far advanced cars have become, a near bottom of the range diesel saloon that can do 0-60 in around 7 to 7.5 seconds. I remember buying a new Toyota Celica 2.0 GT back in 1990 which was considered very sporty and pretty quick back then yet it took around 8 seconds to get to 60 and most everyday saloon cars in those days would take well over 10 seconds to 60. That' s progress for you.
Another good vid Joe, I had a 320d m sport on hire 2 weeks ago only the 2 wheel drive tho. I found it was no where near as good as my 120d m sport, I think you will find it will have almost 400Nm of torque which is nice to have. Got to say that is a cracking deal from Tony & I would be down there like a rocket if I was after another car. Will be watching for more of your vids on this motor as I am thinking of going X drive for my next BMW. Well done Joe keep them coming.
This video reminds me a lot of the Chris Harris 320d video. You both agree that even though it's a 4 cylinder diesel, it's so capable and well-rounded that you don't really need much more. I would pay the extra to get the increased refinement of the 330d, 335d or 340i, but for what it is, the 320d is very impressive.
Finally someone at BMW has recognised the great press you give the brand. Well done Tony. Joe, bring the car to Scotland for a blast with some M Lites. Some of the roads here are superb mate.
Had a white 320d pretty much same spec as this but non x drive, as courtesy car for a few days. Performance wise its ok, plenty of torque and more than ample for daily driving. I never really found performance lacking but in some situations it lacked urgency but still could have fun in it. Was sad to hand it back, I really enjoyed driving it and had to take a few photos of it before giving it back. Even lost my launch control virginity with it! Looking forward to next upload!
I had a 320d xdrive for a few weeks whilst my M135i was in for a suspension issue and found it 'felt' noticeably quicker than the standard 320d - because you can carry more speed (comfortably) through roundabouts and tighter bends in general day to day driving. I was well impressed with it and am sure you'll thoroughly enjoy it Joe.
Good vid joe, couple of years you'll be next to Chris Harris on top gear ;). Don't forget to add your unique style to all your vids. People watch you for your honesty and entertaining vids so it's ok to boot it even when it's new ;)
I watch your excellent videos all the time and think how nice it would be to have an M140i or an Alpina D3, but in the real world these take some beating when you have to pay for the fuel yourself day in day out. I've owned a 320d xDrive myself for 3 years and it's almost the perfect blend of performance and economy. Once you're rolling you can keep GTIs honest. I love these cars. xDrive Touring next for me. Loved your latest road trip video Joe. Looked like great fun.
Personally am glad that you can review a realistic to own car and have a great deal from TRL to offer for ANYONE - not just a UA-camr special deal 😂 Video ideas: - xDrive opinions - real world speed comparisons (50-80 or 0-40 etc.) with your M135i - Delve deeper into the 1 vs 3 series chassis feel with the longer wheelbase and more space etc. Love this new direction man and people are finally giving you cars 👍🏼
I think that's an incredible car. It's fast, spacious, economical, good looking, practical, refined, has low running costs and is a quality item. Looking forward to seeing more videos on it
Great vid again. Nothing but good things to say about the 320d, for an all rounder it's hard to beat. No wonder the car park at work is full of them...of course I'd take a 335d or even better a D3 (who wouldn't!) but for the money, I can't think of anything better when it comes to performance vs economy/practicality
Fantastic workhorse. Economical, and with the M Performance Pack you won't look like a dork whilst you save some £££. Seen these, with the M Performance pack and a few goodies within the BMW network, same spec as this, with only delivery mileage on the clock for £27.5K!! Has to be a fabulous bargain, so it will great to see how Joe gets on with this over the next few weeks..
Thoroughly looking forward to your videos on the 320d. Everyday car mixed with a spirited driver. Should be awesome. When the car has been broken in you and Sid should take it for a good hoon
The 320d E90 is also a great car, minus the auto gearbox and now dated multimedia and nav system, still goes great! Wondering how much better the latest model is compared to this now. Great video Joe!
Great vid Joe looking forward to seeing more on this car, got a company 320d ed myself so will be interesting to see how the economy of the two compare. Keep up the good work!
best of luck with this venture with Tony, Joe. Everyone's a winner...great idea...I think this car is a great all-rounder and ticks lots of boxes, especially the 0-60 time, it's impressive for a 4cyl 2.0 diesel. BUT patience, my man, let her get some miles on the clock - (that's what she said!)....I look forward to next vids.
I had the b47 190bhp in my 2014 520d great car, great refined engine. In terms of motorway economy it wouldn't do more that 52mpg on a rolling start sticking at 70mph. My previous 2013 e250 cdi which was a 2.1 diesel twin turbo with 204bhp did 57mpg on the same drive but was a more rattly diesel.
Joe Achilles you probably need to run it in a bit but I reckon mid 50s at a push..... Let me know how you get on. I am thinking of getting a 330d x drive for the Mrs but most likely a pre lci like a 2014 model.....
The 320's are very underrated cars. A mate of my's 320i can hit 200 hp (according to the iDrive sport display) and 300NM of torque (again BMW underrating their engines) Thats the power of a hot hatch (Polo/Golf GTI territory) in a brilliant BMW chassis with the outstanding adaptive M suspension which means that it can be really comfortable too. They're great allrounders.
Perfect spec for a family man on a budget, It's got the badge,the 20d engine seems a good cross of performance and economy, nice show off brakes for traffic light envy, probably the best auto box,and x drive in the background. Runs of to check the piggy bank and under the settee cushions.lol.
Good to see you driving on roads I'm familiar with in Uxbridge. Looks good in Mineral Grey, just not enough M Sport badges for me :-) Sadly not in a position to purchase one from TRL :-( Keep up the great videos
Joe loving the videos as always. I couldn't agree enough about the "is a 320d enough" vibe. I had one and loved it and it's fairly rapid too and still averaged 52mpg with a manual. But when an Alpina came up I had to take it and that's diesel too!! As your local maybe come do a video in that!!
I think the bmw interior looks nice it’s a classic look, yes Audi make stunning interiors but I do like the bmw clean classic look. The 3 series has always been the class leader and is still the car to beat in its class 40 years on, says it all really. The 320d M Sport gives you all the car you need with over 50mpg, excellent build quality, and with X Drive that confidence in the wet or snow to drive safe. I would go for the pro nav as the current sat nav is a bit small. The M Sport calipers and twin chrome exhaust looks lovely.
When I had my 320d loaner you could get the arse very, very far out in Sport+... I reckon the systems just panicked a bit with the understeer as on Xdrive it's monitoring slip on the front axle aswell as the back 👍🏼
The current 3-series is a very nice cat indeed, but for me personally if I were to get rid of the m235i, I'd grab the 335d with the pro nav Great video as always and can't wait to see what you get up to in it :)
Great video as usual. Same specs and colour as mine and I love it, but I deliberately didn't want X Drive, BMW should be RWD in my opinion. I will be interested to see how you get on with it though. Love sliding mine about when it's raining but could probably do with an LSD for super slidy fun, probably safer for most to have an open diff though. I had a black grill fit to mine too, looks a lot more aggressive, which I like
Yeah I'm a die hard RWD fan too, I have my M lite to skid, also Ive found out tonight this can skid too... Not keeping this long so no accessories, but again i have the black grill on my M lite
Great review Joe, very similar to Chris Harris suggesting this 320d M Sport is all you really need on the road within reason. Bit disappointing that the car has the basic instrument and screen cluster but hay ho. I had the 2014 320d MSport with the 405's and full performance goodies and in MG and it was more of a head turner than my 2012 e92 CP M3 bar the sweet noise of the V8. All in all great car however for me I would need the 330d just for that extra sound and fun
A very sensible decision (for an everyday driver) - after all the build up and hype of wanting to get an M240i or M2 from watching your vids....I've gone for a Mercedes AMG GLC lol (will get delivery in late October)..sorry but the quality inside and out just overshadows the BMW (did a test drive and visited both BMW/Merc showrooms), even though the BM might handle better or is faster.
I've got pretty much the same spec but without the xdrive (wish i had got it) had it round a month. The only thing i wish mine had was a slip diff on the rear as pulling out at junction is abit poop for traction. i get around 480 mile to a tank mainly town drive with the odd motorway blast
The 320d is such a great car. I am really torn between getting an M140i or the 320d. Both are fun to drive in their own way, the 140i seems to be more fun for now, but the 320d seems to be the better long term car. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the pros and cons of the 140i (or 135i) vs the 320d. Also, I am amazed how cheap BMWs are in the UK compared to Germany...
Hi Joe another good video and nice car !!! I have a M135i lci similar to yours great cars can you give me some feedback on the remus poweriser am thinking of having one would you recommend and have you had any issues . Thanks Richard
Should have the professional instead of the m-performance breaks. Overall sick spec though! Got my 4 Series coupe in a similar scheme, mineral grey with black leather interior!
Another good video Joe. The only issue i had with my 3 series was that you can't get a bike into it as the rear seats don't fold as standard. Do they fold now with the newer model? Se spec springs I think as well with the X drive hence the higher ride height. AC will sort that out for you 😁
any chance of a 640D gran coupe review??? looking to buy second later in the year, so a full review would be awesome Joe, by the way great review on the 320D!!
Xdrive not my kind of bmw , but again a hounest opinion and story from the Joe .. ,hope you can get more bmw's on your right foot to test , safe miles 👊👍💪✔ ,ciao
I'm interested to know how it handles compared to an x drive, I picked a 430d GC over a 435d coz of the lack of m sport suspension and a 2000+ premium, I never actually drove the 435d as the deal on the 430d was really good but I'd like to find comfort in my choice. Ps my 4 has adaptive dampers and bar the electric steering and RFT's, it handles beautifully!
440i GC, that would have been what my heart chose (435i as the 440i's are still quite expensive) but my head said get a diesel, I have a heavy foot and I get 30-35 round town, much better than the 18 my friend gets in his m240i !
I just realzied your prices in the UK are much cheaper than in Germany. Are there any other costs, like some taxes or stuff like that people outside the UK don't know about?
Prices in the UK really are much cheaper then anywhere else in Europe for premium cars and the cars come with much higher specification. This 320d cost just a little more then a much lower spec 1 series diesel I purchased in Spain! You can order from Park Lane BMW in London left hand drive Euro spec, I found even after paying import duties and taxes in Spain it would still work out cheaper but you have to pay cash, no finance deals available on export.
I have done two proper journeys in the car so far, both some A & B roads, in town and motorway. Both Journeys I managed over 50mpg combined, the 330d would have done around 8mpg less for the same journeys. The 320d is the cheaper option in terms of ownership, the 330d is the more enjoyable but expensive option. Cheers
BM are very naughty they keep it quiet M Sport WITH Xdrive means you get the SE standard suspension not M Sport Suspension and before the LCI it was awful really awful a floating blancmange so what is the LCI like? I changed it for AC Schnitzer shocks and springs ,now totally different On braking hard see if the nose goes down and slides you forward ,do 80 on motorway does it feel like you are wallowing so much you feel like youve lost it? My F30 30d will give me 50 mpg all day long on long drives ,west london to leeds and back last week 54mpg .......... ,this is before ive listened to the vid
Hey Sue, yeah I'd heard the pre Lci was a bit of a boat, I must say so far this chassis setup feels really good, very little roll or diving under braking. Still only done 70 miles though haha. Watch this space for more updates. Cheers Joe
jacob slark I used to have a 320i coupe. Moved to 420d. The 2.0 diesel is much better because of the 400NM torque, double that of the petrol. The 2.0 petrols lack torque relative to the cars weight. I will never buy a car with that torque to weight ratio again
I got the 430i and can say that it does not lack torque. It has 350nM and never have I felt that I needed more (possibly because of the great transmission). With its 252 bhp, it is no slough, while also showing some character! Something which you don't get in diesels ;-)! However, the 20i might be a little short on power though.
I don't get it why BMW won't ditch that awful and small center display and just include the 5,7'' in all models. The new 1 series' "digital" gauges look great, and yet the 3-series' can still look like yours..
My thoughts exactly. That 'basic' instrument cluster he has in this just looks awful imho. Doesnt belong to a car at that pricepoint. Should have the extended cluster as standard..
You can option the digital driver display for 2017 models onwards which look way better than the 1 series LCI gauges (similar to the 5 series display). The answer to your question: BMW wants to make more money. I agree the normal driver dash has that outdated look but its more than functional and very easily accessible.
+Richie Chou Yeah, you're right; the black panel is finally available for the 3-series too. It's just ridiculous to have a screen the same size of a Nokia 3310's in a premium car in 2017.
I went from a m135i to a 335d xdrive.. couldn't recommend the 3 series enough! I look forward to going to work just so I can get in the car
Yeah they certainly feel more premium, they just need to sit slightly lower...
Joe Achilles haha we know what's gonna happen (lowering springs coming soon) haha awsome video Joe !
Totally agree it needs more lows.. but it's very practical and with the remap and xdrive it leaves the 135 for dead
You can use it for a video if you want 😉 there's naff all videos on UA-cam of the 335 worth watching
adam proctor Couldn't agree more mate. I've had my F30 335d xDrive for a year and can't get enough of it. Originally considered an M135 but with the amount of miles I do I just couldn't justify it. But the 335d is a great all rounder. 0-60 in 4.8 secs. 465lbft torque is immense. I drove from Folkestone to Paris and back to Bucks in one tank. I don't care what they say about diesels, this car does it all! ☺️
Under 7.5secs from 0 to 60 is all you need, it's amazing how cars have developed in recent years.
Hi Joe, It's a very nice BMW and it's good to see that Tony from the dealership is looking after you as you come across as a ambassador for BMW and to be fair you always give glowing reviews but also your always fair and that's important also your the type of guy people listen to as I do as I listen very carefully as to what you say and you always have good valid points your a top guy and truly enjoy your work. Regards Alan B
Cheers Alan, I know you have been a long time supporter and viewer of my channel, I really appreciate that man! And yeah it's great that Tony and Berry have come to my rescue, we can both benefit! Cheers
Agreed!
I picked my 2016 330d up last week and it's blown me away with it's breadth of ability. It's fast af and so refined too, I got it with pro-nav which makes a huge difference (would recommend), wanted these particular wheels but I got the older 19" variant. On a journey I get circa 55mpg.
Yeah I've spent loads of time in the amazing 330d, one of the best all round cars on this planet! Also my 730ld has that masterpiece of a motor on board. A fair amount more money (buying new) than the 320d. Enjoy
Hello, I have a 66 plate 330d touring with 19" wheels and auto box but I get nowhere near 55mpg. The only time I got close was driving to Scotland from Somerset to see my folks!!
Best BMW I've had tho - torque is amazing in full sports using paddles :-)
M Ward Hey, I work in Manchester and is a circa 35 mile drive to Blackburn and I achieve 55mpg. Granted, I'm in eco-pro doing 72, but equally I drove to Norwich and achieved the same mpg. I think I'd get more but that coasting feature catches me out a lot and I tend to brake more.
Hi Joe, having run a 530d manual (2wd) in the Balkans with very harsh winters I do think that there is a great deal of paranoia about the need for 4wd. I was always able to find sufficient traction, the secret...use winter tyres....4wd also doesn't do much for braking. I would suggest that instead of the weight of 4wd and the everyday compromises you simply spend the money on winter tyres (which long term are almost free, because the summer ones don't wear out in the garage) and although I didn't have one, a torsen diff. You won't get stuck, will have more fun, use less fuel and will be able to stop much better in poor conditions. Great videos by the way and I think you have one on snow tyres. But can I ask you to use your large reach to educate on the safety benefits of winter tyres over 4wd. I talk with a great number of people who are less informed than you and think that they are Ari Vatenen with their x drive or quattro in the snow.....until they can't stop and crash on their summer tyres and wonder why their german computer didn't save them.
It is amazing how so far advanced cars have become, a near bottom of the range diesel saloon that can do 0-60 in around 7 to 7.5 seconds. I remember buying a new Toyota Celica 2.0 GT back in 1990 which was considered very sporty and pretty quick back then yet it took around 8 seconds to get to 60 and most everyday saloon cars in those days would take well over 10 seconds to 60. That' s progress for you.
I know mate it's unbelievable hey, and now a 7 second to 60 doesn't even feel that quick... Madness
Another good vid Joe, I had a 320d m sport on hire 2 weeks ago only the 2 wheel drive tho. I found it was no where near as good as my 120d m sport, I think you will find it will have almost 400Nm of torque which is nice to have. Got to say that is a cracking deal from Tony & I would be down there like a rocket if I was after another car. Will be watching for more of your vids on this motor as I am thinking of going X drive for my next BMW.
Well done Joe keep them coming.
This video reminds me a lot of the Chris Harris 320d video. You both agree that even though it's a 4 cylinder diesel, it's so capable and well-rounded that you don't really need much more. I would pay the extra to get the increased refinement of the 330d, 335d or 340i, but for what it is, the 320d is very impressive.
Cheers Sam, very high praise so thank you! Yeah the 330d is a better car no doubt, but for meeting budgets this is a winner.
Finally someone at BMW has recognised the great press you give the brand. Well done Tony. Joe, bring the car to Scotland for a blast with some M Lites. Some of the roads here are superb mate.
Joe love you videos and appreciate how long they take to make . Nothing better than chillin on my days off and watching .
Thanks man, really appreciate you taking time to watch my stuff! :-)
Had a white 320d pretty much same spec as this but non x drive, as courtesy car for a few days. Performance wise its ok, plenty of torque and more than ample for daily driving. I never really found performance lacking but in some situations it lacked urgency but still could have fun in it. Was sad to hand it back, I really enjoyed driving it and had to take a few photos of it before giving it back. Even lost my launch control virginity with it!
Looking forward to next upload!
Picked up my m135 nearly 2 years ago from berry heathrow. Lovely people! Great review/video as always Joe
Cheers Max!
I had a 320d xdrive for a few weeks whilst my M135i was in for a suspension issue and found it 'felt' noticeably quicker than the standard 320d - because you can carry more speed (comfortably) through roundabouts and tighter bends in general day to day driving. I was well impressed with it and am sure you'll thoroughly enjoy it Joe.
Interesting, yeah it seems to handle well considering its definitely sitting quite high. Cheers man
Did I read that you're gonna be at the BMW Owners Club/Festival/Show at Gaydon on Sunday? Hopefully see you there if you are :)
Good vid joe, couple of years you'll be next to Chris Harris on top gear ;). Don't forget to add your unique style to all your vids. People watch you for your honesty and entertaining vids so it's ok to boot it even when it's new ;)
Cheers Bob, that would be the dream! :-)
I watch your excellent videos all the time and think how nice it would be to have an M140i or an Alpina D3, but in the real world these take some beating when you have to pay for the fuel yourself day in day out. I've owned a 320d xDrive myself for 3 years and it's almost the perfect blend of performance and economy. Once you're rolling you can keep GTIs honest. I love these cars. xDrive Touring next for me.
Loved your latest road trip video Joe. Looked like great fun.
Cheers Paul and all very true mate! Thanks for your support buddy :-)
Great content, Berry BMW is lucky to work with you!
Cheers Mario, it's great for both of us :-)
Personally am glad that you can review a realistic to own car and have a great deal from TRL to offer for ANYONE - not just a UA-camr special deal 😂
Video ideas:
- xDrive opinions
- real world speed comparisons (50-80 or 0-40 etc.) with your M135i
- Delve deeper into the 1 vs 3 series chassis feel with the longer wheelbase and more space etc.
Love this new direction man and people are finally giving you cars 👍🏼
Cheers man, yeah I'm more of a real life (working man) UA-cam haha. Great video ideas! Thanks for your support man :-)
I think that's an incredible car. It's fast, spacious, economical, good looking, practical, refined, has low running costs and is a quality item.
Looking forward to seeing more videos on it
Tony Lewis and the Berry Group sounds like a dodgy 1980's pop band 😄
Haha true!
Close TRL was a dodgy club DJ in the 80s.... normally found down the Old Kent Road in a white Ford Orion Ghia with full RS bodykit..... TRUE!
My next car is definitely a 3 Series.. hope to hear great things from this long term test! Congratulations on the new wheels.
Cheers buddy!
Great vid again. Nothing but good things to say about the 320d, for an all rounder it's hard to beat. No wonder the car park at work is full of them...of course I'd take a 335d or even better a D3 (who wouldn't!) but for the money, I can't think of anything better when it comes to performance vs economy/practicality
Totally agree mate, I would have loved a 330d or of course the D3, but we're talking £8 or £20 more respectively ;-)
Fantastic workhorse. Economical, and with the M Performance Pack you won't look like a dork whilst you save some £££. Seen these, with the M Performance pack and a few goodies within the BMW network, same spec as this, with only delivery mileage on the clock for £27.5K!! Has to be a fabulous bargain, so it will great to see how Joe gets on with this over the next few weeks..
Joe you could mention how these cars take off from the line, it's pretty impressive if u can get all 4 wheels to screech at the same time
Thoroughly looking forward to your videos on the 320d. Everyday car mixed with a spirited driver. Should be awesome. When the car has been broken in you and Sid should take it for a good hoon
Just got my 66 plate 320d x drive in the BMW blue at 19, before this had an Audi and switching to BMW was the best decision I've ever made
The 320d E90 is also a great car, minus the auto gearbox and now dated multimedia and nav system, still goes great! Wondering how much better the latest model is compared to this now. Great video Joe!
Once again, thanks Joe. I still think I'll stick with the 335D Xdrive but this does sound like a fantastic deal.
Haha I don't blame you mate! ;-)
Great vid Joe looking forward to seeing more on this car, got a company 320d ed myself so will be interesting to see how the economy of the two compare.
Keep up the good work!
best of luck with this venture with Tony, Joe. Everyone's a winner...great idea...I think this car is a great all-rounder and ticks lots of boxes, especially the 0-60 time, it's impressive for a 4cyl 2.0 diesel. BUT patience, my man, let her get some miles on the clock - (that's what she said!)....I look forward to next vids.
Hahaha Cheers man! Yeah I will take good (ish) care of her ;-)
I had the b47 190bhp in my 2014 520d great car, great refined engine. In terms of motorway economy it wouldn't do more that 52mpg on a rolling start sticking at 70mph. My previous 2013 e250 cdi which was a 2.1 diesel twin turbo with 204bhp did 57mpg on the same drive but was a more rattly diesel.
Ohh good to know, lets see what I can squeeze out of this one. Cheers
Joe Achilles you probably need to run it in a bit but I reckon mid 50s at a push..... Let me know how you get on. I am thinking of getting a 330d x drive for the Mrs but most likely a pre lci like a 2014 model.....
I felt like watichng old good Top Gear for a moment when you followed than Range Rover lol. Shall I call You James??? Hah
Haha I wish! :-)
The 320's are very underrated cars. A mate of my's 320i can hit 200 hp (according to the iDrive sport display) and 300NM of torque (again BMW underrating their engines)
Thats the power of a hot hatch (Polo/Golf GTI territory) in a brilliant BMW chassis with the outstanding adaptive M suspension which means that it can be really comfortable too. They're great allrounders.
Agreed man, can't wait to put some miles under its belt! Cheers
Perfect spec for a family man on a budget,
It's got the badge,the 20d engine seems a good cross of performance and economy, nice show off brakes for traffic light envy, probably the best auto box,and x drive in the background.
Runs of to check the piggy bank and under the settee cushions.lol.
Good to see you driving on roads I'm familiar with in Uxbridge. Looks good in Mineral Grey, just not enough M Sport badges for me :-) Sadly not in a position to purchase one from TRL :-( Keep up the great videos
Haha yeah I'm down the road from Uxbridge! I'm sure Tony could find you some spare M badges ;-)
Joe loving the videos as always. I couldn't agree enough about the "is a 320d enough" vibe. I had one and loved it and it's fairly rapid too and still averaged 52mpg with a manual. But when an Alpina came up I had to take it and that's diesel too!! As your local maybe come do a video in that!!
I think the bmw interior looks nice it’s a classic look, yes Audi make stunning interiors but I do like the bmw clean classic look. The 3 series has always been the class leader and is still the car to beat in its class 40 years on, says it all really. The 320d M Sport gives you all the car you need with over 50mpg, excellent build quality, and with X Drive that confidence in the wet or snow to drive safe. I would go for the pro nav as the current sat nav is a bit small. The M Sport calipers and twin chrome exhaust looks lovely.
When I had my 320d loaner you could get the arse very, very far out in Sport+... I reckon the systems just panicked a bit with the understeer as on Xdrive it's monitoring slip on the front axle aswell as the back 👍🏼
Great video, thank you. Looking forward to more videos on this car and 3 series in general. 330i is on my radar.
Cheers man :-)
The current 3-series is a very nice cat indeed, but for me personally if I were to get rid of the m235i, I'd grab the 335d with the pro nav
Great video as always and can't wait to see what you get up to in it :)
Yeah would have loved the 335d, but its an extra 13k base price
Look forward to this new series of videos with the 320d 👍 keep up the good work fella
Cheers Lee
Nice video Joe. Can't help but think that getting into a four year deal for a diesel might be a bad idea in the current climate.....
Great video as usual. Same specs and colour as mine and I love it, but I deliberately didn't want X Drive, BMW should be RWD in my opinion. I will be interested to see how you get on with it though. Love sliding mine about when it's raining but could probably do with an LSD for super slidy fun, probably safer for most to have an open diff though. I had a black grill fit to mine too, looks a lot more aggressive, which I like
Yeah I'm a die hard RWD fan too, I have my M lite to skid, also Ive found out tonight this can skid too... Not keeping this long so no accessories, but again i have the black grill on my M lite
You still need winter tyres for effective operation.
Loving the new ride! I do like the body of the 320D and rims are on point
Cheers man!
Good vid mate and congrats on your joint venture with Tony!
I own a 118d m sport remapped with 200bhp and near enough 400 torque and trust me they can be fun a lot of fun
tanafc96 😂
Yeah up to a point, it won't ever be a M lite though due to the sound and lack or rev range
Great review Joe, very similar to Chris Harris suggesting this 320d M Sport is all you really need on the road within reason. Bit disappointing that the car has the basic instrument and screen cluster but hay ho. I had the 2014 320d MSport with the 405's and full performance goodies and in MG and it was more of a head turner than my 2012 e92 CP M3 bar the sweet noise of the V8. All in all great car however for me I would need the 330d just for that extra sound and fun
Cheers man, highest compliment ever! Yeah the 330d is another level in terms of performance and sound.
A very sensible decision (for an everyday driver) - after all the build up and hype of wanting to get an M240i or M2 from watching your vids....I've gone for a Mercedes AMG GLC lol (will get delivery in late October)..sorry but the quality inside and out just overshadows the BMW (did a test drive and visited both BMW/Merc showrooms), even though the BM might handle better or is faster.
Nice video as always, can't wait to see more of it and how different it is being xdrive
For the range test, how about a run to the 'Ring and back and see how far (back) you get? Tourist laps optional!
I've got pretty much the same spec but without the xdrive (wish i had got it) had it round a month. The only thing i wish mine had was a slip diff on the rear as pulling out at junction is abit poop for traction. i get around 480 mile to a tank mainly town drive with the odd motorway blast
Great video! Needs a Couple of M-performance parts now 😂
The 320d is such a great car. I am really torn between getting an M140i or the 320d. Both are fun to drive in their own way, the 140i seems to be more fun for now, but the 320d seems to be the better long term car. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the pros and cons of the 140i (or 135i) vs the 320d. Also, I am amazed how cheap BMWs are in the UK compared to Germany...
Rossbacher87 live for the moment and get the M140i, you won't regret it, you can be a old man and get the 320d after you have had some fun ;)
Yeah the M140 will be loads more fun, the 320d is the more sensible/cheaper to run car. We have some amazing deals here at the moment
That's a great looking motor. Safe travels.
❤️ your work Joe, ❤️ your new car. Keep the videos coming...
Cheers man
Thats a cracking deal....and the best colour too of course.
Great vid, looking forward to the rest!
Hi Joe another good video and nice car !!! I have a M135i lci similar to yours great cars can you give me some feedback on the remus poweriser am thinking of having one would you recommend and have you had any issues . Thanks Richard
Cheers man! The Remus has been amazing, at really high altitude it needed re setting once, but no issues since!
Should have the professional instead of the m-performance breaks. Overall sick spec though! Got my 4 Series coupe in a similar scheme, mineral grey with black leather interior!
Long term loaner car, I didn't spec them
Oh I know mate. Talking about the dealer here, but in any case a great package for such a bargain!
Another good video Joe. The only issue i had with my 3 series was that you can't get a bike into it as the rear seats don't fold as standard. Do they fold now with the newer model? Se spec springs I think as well with the X drive hence the higher ride height. AC will sort that out for you 😁
Cheers man, haha no these seats don't bloody fold either, only have it for a month or so, hopefully the next loaner will have folding seats ;-)
any chance of a 640D gran coupe review??? looking to buy second later in the year, so a full review would be awesome Joe, by the way great review on the 320D!!
Hopefully soon man, I had a 640d gran coupe in 2015 for ten days and absolutely loved it, sooo fast and capable!
Awesome Joe, I test drove one and loved it, so hoping to get one later in the year!!
Once it rains ,the car will grip harder than the rwd version ,but will still oversteer if provoked
Xdrive not my kind of bmw , but again a hounest opinion and story from the Joe .. ,hope you can get more bmw's on your right foot to test , safe miles 👊👍💪✔ ,ciao
Cheers buddy!
Please go to central london early in the morning in shmee's gt8
That would be awesome
Thanks for the video Joe 👍
Just wondering if they can do similar deals on 335d xdrive ？ Thanks
Great review Joe 🖒
Does it have the same silly indicator stalk in the new 2018 1series?
Cheers man, thankfully the 3 series have currently stuck with the older/better ones :-)
BMW should let you drive for a new season of 'the Hire'.
Looking forward to more videos Joe!
Real wheel drive and a six cylinder!!Do I need to say more??
Joe you're the man!
I'm interested to know how it handles compared to an x drive, I picked a 430d GC over a 435d coz of the lack of m sport suspension and a 2000+ premium, I never actually drove the 435d as the deal on the 430d was really good but I'd like to find comfort in my choice. Ps my 4 has adaptive dampers and bar the electric steering and RFT's, it handles beautifully!
Hopefully get a video on handling etc real soon... Love the sound of your 430d GC, I'm getting a 440i GC tomorrow for a week so that should be fun :-)
Joe Achilles do you plan to do a video of the 440i ? btw, why do you say your 320d is "temporary" ?
440i GC, that would have been what my heart chose (435i as the 440i's are still quite expensive) but my head said get a diesel, I have a heavy foot and I get 30-35 round town, much better than the 18 my friend gets in his m240i !
Another great video Joe! Any plans to review the 330e?
Cheers man, hopefully get my hands on a 330e real soon
Enjoyed that!
Cheers :-)
As a BMW fan, what would you say is a better car for learning to drift. M240i or 440i? Cheers.
240i, it's lighter and more agile, easier to initiate the drift imo
ok, thats what I thought as well, with a shorter wheelbase it may start to drift easier too.
I would think the 440i because it has a longer wheelbase... But both near identical
I just realzied your prices in the UK are much cheaper than in Germany. Are there any other costs, like some taxes or stuff like that people outside the UK don't know about?
Annual VED aka road tax first year should be included in the quoted price. Plus insurance obviously.
Prices in the UK really are much cheaper then anywhere else in Europe for premium cars and the cars come with much higher specification. This 320d cost just a little more then a much lower spec 1 series diesel I purchased in Spain! You can order from Park Lane BMW in London left hand drive Euro spec, I found even after paying import duties and taxes in Spain it would still work out cheaper but you have to pay cash, no finance deals available on export.
Just Insurance buddy, that would be around £500 for me for the year!
what do u think of the x drive system ? is it easy to slide ? :D
Is this the usual well known M Sport Package? Or is it the Edition M Sport Package with darker led lights?
Good stuff Joe, not the sort of car I would go for, but an interesting video nonetheless.
Loved mine but around the town it was no more economical than my m140 however on a long run could manage 50mpg
What sort of real world MPG are you getting? I'm looking at getting one but torn between the 320 and 330D!
I have done two proper journeys in the car so far, both some A & B roads, in town and motorway. Both Journeys I managed over 50mpg combined, the 330d would have done around 8mpg less for the same journeys. The 320d is the cheaper option in terms of ownership, the 330d is the more enjoyable but expensive option. Cheers
Great thanks Joe! Keep the Videos coming!
Joe Achilles I have a 320d f30.. I get 50mpg motorway and I get 27mpg (city driving very sensible in eco pro) is there a reason why my mpg is so bad?
Rear wheel drive and a 6 cylinder!do I need to say more?
Hey Joe, what do you think about the future G20 M340i? Replacement for your M135i? :)
Yeah it will be quite a car, can't believe its taken BMW so long to bring a M lite to the 3 series range. Maybe look at a touring version ;-)
Btw great video keep it up man
BM are very naughty they keep it quiet M Sport WITH Xdrive means you get the SE standard suspension not M Sport Suspension and before the LCI it was awful really awful a floating blancmange so what is the LCI like? I changed it for AC Schnitzer shocks and springs ,now totally different On braking hard see if the nose goes down and slides you forward ,do 80 on motorway does it feel like you are wallowing so much you feel like youve lost it? My F30 30d will give me 50 mpg all day long on long drives ,west london to leeds and back last week 54mpg
.......... ,this is before ive listened to the vid
Hey Sue, yeah I'd heard the pre Lci was a bit of a boat, I must say so far this chassis setup feels really good, very little roll or diving under braking. Still only done 70 miles though haha. Watch this space for more updates. Cheers Joe
I just got a 420i , what do you think of them ?
Beautiful cars, just not a fan of the 2 litre 4 pot if I'm being totally honest.
jacob slark I used to have a 320i coupe. Moved to 420d. The 2.0 diesel is much better because of the 400NM torque, double that of the petrol. The 2.0 petrols lack torque relative to the cars weight. I will never buy a car with that torque to weight ratio again
I got the 430i and can say that it does not lack torque. It has 350nM and never have I felt that I needed more (possibly because of the great transmission). With its 252 bhp, it is no slough, while also showing some character! Something which you don't get in diesels ;-)! However, the 20i might be a little short on power though.
Hi Joe what's the reason you got this car?
aren't you concerned about possible diesel taxes in the UK?
POV please
Will do in the next video :-)
Great video
Good vid mate
A 520d is also a great car. You don't really need more power. Of course there is nothing against a 30d.
320I XDRIVE M SPORT SHADOW EDITION 4DR STEP AUTO is only £31240 on drivethedeal unless I'm mistaken and so I would personally buy that.
The 320i is a cheaper car to start with. This car was my choice so I went for a 320d, I'm happy to hear you would go with something else
Joe Achilles Even the 330D xdrive shadow edition is £32755 on drivethedeal.
I asked you a while ago if you've ever thought about buying a 3 series! lol
I don't get it why BMW won't ditch that awful and small center display and just include the 5,7'' in all models. The new 1 series' "digital" gauges look great, and yet the 3-series' can still look like yours..
My thoughts exactly. That 'basic' instrument cluster he has in this just looks awful imho. Doesnt belong to a car at that pricepoint. Should have the extended cluster as standard..
mmmakeee yeah and in a couple of years it would look so dated.. Plus it's less to go wrong!
Yeah I do agree, I did assume it would at least be the black panel display.
You can option the digital driver display for 2017 models onwards which look way better than the 1 series LCI gauges (similar to the 5 series display). The answer to your question: BMW wants to make more money. I agree the normal driver dash has that outdated look but its more than functional and very easily accessible.
+Richie Chou Yeah, you're right; the black panel is finally available for the 3-series too. It's just ridiculous to have a screen the same size of a Nokia 3310's in a premium car in 2017.
Another good video,thks.
What’s the insurance like on this?
Hi Joe. When you say "m lite" are you referring to m sports??
M135i/M235i/M140i/M240i
i just configured this car, and in Belgium brand new costs 54 500€ . and i don't think i picked every option that yours has
Wow thats expensive!
Why you didnt pay for digital gauges?
The car came specced like this, its not mine, just a long term loaner. I can live with analogue gauges
Where's the m135i gone
In my garage