All the nazi stuff is meant to show how out of it Pink is during his outrage and how isolation can transform people into absolute monsters, even the opposite of who they used to be, it’s also meant to be ironic because his father was killed by Nazis and he is essentially becoming the problem that started the chain reaction that led to him building the wall in the first place.
There was also a weird thing with some 70s rock stars where heavy drug use led to a strange flirtation with far right politics or at least posturing - Bowie's infamous salute during his Thin White Duke phase, Eric Clapton's comments on race at one of his gigs. I think Bowie was just being provocative, stupidly. Clapton has always been more problematic.
@@davidmannion7333 In what way "always" ? Pre- and post- the Birmingham incident, EC was a huge advocate for black musicians from Morganfield to Marley and more [context here for that dumb joke about Jimi's dick] - and more importantly he has emerged as an important advocate for the basic human right to bodily autonomy, in the face of once-unimaginable neo-communist behavior from Western governments.
Yep, Gilmour is the one they’re referring to as the OG vocals. Much more melodic singer than Roger, although Roger’s voice works particularly well on this album with all of the dark places it goes.
@@capsdude4838 If you want to get a real feeling for the difference between the two vocally, listen to Roger trying to sing Wish You Were Here on his In The Flesh tour from 1999. Then listen to David trying to sing the 3rd verse of Hey You on the PULSE live album.
@@brianmoore8407 That's not David singing verse 3 of Hey You on PULSE, that's Guy Pratt singing Roger's part. I think a better comparison would be Roger singing Eclipse on Dark Side vs David singing Eclipse on PULSE.
Actually, Roger spoke fondly of his mother and said that part of overprotective mother wasn't the thing he had in his life. He respected her and said she gave him everything he knows. It isn't just Roger's story, it's partially his, but Pink is fictional character, of course.
People want to apply Pink to Waters too much. They don't understand that "of course" he used SOMETIMES his own experience, he also was INSPIRED by Barret, but it doesn't stop there... Pink is... "A Rock Star"... An idol. It's a fusion of ALL idols of that time... The "nazi quote" about colored people (I don't remember the exact words now), has been said in real life by Eric Clapton in the 70's... So Pink is not "just Pink Floyd" neither, it's also Eric Clapton (particularly the Nazi part :) ).
Mommy and Daddy issues arent a sign of immaturity, they are a psychological certainty that are a byproduct of the human experience. "Until you make the unconscious conscious it will direct your life and you will call it fate" - Carl Jung. When John Lennon (preached love...lived love) went solo and played Madison Square Garden he was rich, married, had kids, was at peak fame, and could say whatever he wanted to. He sang his song "Mother"....the live version of which is available just a click away (John Lennon Mother MSG).....thinking you are too "mature" at 21 to have Mommy Issues should seem laughable if you consider Waters/Jung/Lennon's take on things.
@@garryiglesias4074 And Clapton played it on the first solo tour by Roger Waters, after the publishing of The Pros and Cons of Hitch-Hiking. I've heard Clapton speaking of that racist period of his life in an interview. He sais: "I must have been out of my head, some of my best friends were black actually"
@@lucapolidori8817 Yeah, I don't condemn Clapton for life. He said stupid things, I hope, for him that he's not as bad. I was just pointing at the fact that "pink" is a composite character, inspired by the ambiance of that time, and real events, not at all a simple "Waters only replica".
Back in time when people listen to albums, not songs. At that time, The Wall is literally the best thing in the planet. As an album, The Wall is 100/10. The story, the production, the lyrics, the atmosphere, the emotion, the scary, the intensity. Thats how you end the greatest album run in history. Dark Side of The Moon Wish You Were Here Animals The Wall Pink Floyd is absolutely up there in the greatest band of all time.
I feel like there's a fine line between taking in the narrative of the record and 100% equating the character of Pink to a 1:1 facsimile of Roger Waters. Yes, it's loosely based on Roger Waters' life and experience, and yes he is a flawed individual. Find me someone who isn't. But at its core, this is a somewhat universal fictional story about circumstance, internal defense mechanisms and coming to terms with our trauma and our own decisions. You really shouldn't let it dictate your opinion of who Roger Waters is all that much, and frankly there's a lot more to that story than this album or what you've been told about either it or him, other than this is his art and it speaks for itself.
The story is an embellishment for the sake of the storyline, not to be taken literally as autobiographical. Pink is a FICTIONAL character inspired by elements of both Roger and Syd. In one interview from around the time the album came out, Roger said that one of the things he wanted to point out is how dangerous it is to blindly follow any public figure, be they politician or Rockstar, and that doing so can take you down some pretty dark pathways without you even realizing it. If you're going to hate on Roger do it for the right reasons.. not for coming up with this brilliant, multi-layered concept album.
The live shows of The Wall was so big and expensive they could only afford to do a few shows in the U.S in 1980. During the course of the show a 40-foot high wall of cardboard bricks is slowly constructed across the stage as the show progresses that expanded the full width of the stadium wall to wall. By the end of side 2, ("goodbye cruel world") the final brick is installed and the band is completely walled off from the audience! "Hey You" the beginning of side 3, is performed completely behind the wall while crazy nightmarish animation is projected onto the outside of the edifice. (Pink Floyd had their own animator). Bricks in the Wall are removed here and there to reveal Roger or Dave singing and playing through the rest of the show. Roger appears in front of the wall dressed as a doctor in "Comfortably Numb" as the spots suddenly hit Dave standing on top of the wall to sing the chorus and perform the legendary solos. Show stopper!! Roger appears again as a fascist dictator in full Nazi regalia during "In the Flesh" 1&2. How did the crowd react? they ate it up!! They get it. Roger last toured with The Wall live in 2012 -13 at stadiums all across America. Even bigger and more extravagant than the original shows. It was something to behold. (Did I mention a plane flies across the stadium and crashes into the side of the stage in a ball of flames during the opening "In the flesh"?) every sound and effect is reproduced in 3D surround sound by speakers placed 360 degrees around the stadium as they did with ALL of their live shows, including Pulse.)
My wife and I went to a Roger Waters performance if the wall in Dallas and when the wall came down, some of the cardboard blocks fell on us. It was great.
I came to here to look for this comment. I thought axe as slang for guitar was better know, but lots of people in reaction videos didn’t know it. Love that we all keep learning.
"Why the Nazi shit?" This was because it was Fascism that his father had gone to fight against, and it was Fascism that took his father's life and kicked off the entire downward spiral, so it played such an import part of Pinks early life that we see the complete irony that it's Fascism that Pink turns towards as a form of "strength" against the pain of being a normal, caring, loving, human being. The ultimate and most extreme twist of the young rebelling against the ideals of their parents. Definitely a warning to everyone, to beware of those "wannabe dictators" who seek power and immunity from the law governing everyone else. They offer a "sence of belonging" and a "sence of being victimised" to drum up hatred and anger that any reasonable person would immediately identify as a "Cult Worship".
Not at all... Of course his father was KIA, but in that context it's from the 70's fascist rising in Britain. The infamous quote about "colored people back home" or something like that is a REAL LIFE QUOTE... From... Eric Clapton... This sentence had been pronounced by Eric Clapton in the 70's. Pink is not "Roger&Roger"... Pink is an allegory, a stereotype of a "Rock Star becoming crazy". SOME elements are from Waters, some other from Barret, and MANY other from "the typical rock star at THAT time". Problem with celebrity, drugs, girls, losing your head being followed like Jesus. The Wall is about THAT... Not Roger Waters single life like many people tend to believe. And some of them to discredit him accusing him of "fascism".
And given that I just watched some young kids on the streets of Chichester, England, being interviewed, and they said if they could vote they'd vote Reform... Oh my god! The Reform party was set up by leading elites of the establishment, it encourages hate, homophobia, islamophia, it rails against wokeness and promised to make England 'for the English'. I thought only people of a certain age fell for this crap. And there's a 15-year-old, mixed heritage boy telling the interviewer that the Reform party is for the working class, and they'll stop all the immigrants getting housing ahead of English people. Quite how the Reform party has managed to pull such a PR stunt is beyond me. Apparently they're using TikTok to reach the younger generation. It's chilling.
The lore part was absolutely amazing. I spent my teens fanboying over PF, so I know it all, but the caller presented it all so good and coherently. Great storyteller! I can't imagine a better introduction to the album and band!
The wall tour was a financial disaster, and seeing Richard Wright was hired as a touring musician, he was paid $250,000 and was the only one to make any money.
The Blitz was the period when Germany basically terror bombed London, targeting civilian areas. If you know the history, the introduction to Goodbye, Blue Sky with the plane is so sad and reflects the brutality of modern war. The small child naturally filled with wonder at seeing a large plane in the sky right before it unloads devestation and death.
This album came out in 1979. The movie came out 3 years later. So despite what the millennials say, you don't need to watch the movie to understand the album, you can understand it yourself just by listening, like we did at the time. By the time the movie came out it was like watching a movie based on your favourite book - nice to see but it never matches up to what's in your own imagination.
Thank you. So true. What really gets me is when they call this a soundtrack album. Nothing could be further from the truth. The movie was adapted from the album years later. The album is the original work! Floyd fans and fans of the album understood the piece long before the movie came out. Didn't need it to explain anything to us. If anything the movie falls short.
@@flubblertIndeed. By "explaining the plot" it tends to narrow the work to just one interpretation. When you experience the album on its own, through repeated listens, you form your own interpretation, which can even change over time as you get older and different elements resonate more. And it's just more fun and rewarding to work things out for yourself.
@@dougrussell5002 nothing can beat listening overtime and having the album and its meaning come to you vs the other way around. The album is and always will be the primary and most rewarding way to experience this masterpiece. Patience coupled with a little knowledge and Imagination is its own reward.
One thing worth noting is the contrast between his father who died in World War II fighting fascist Nazi’s and now he has become what his father fought and he sees the disturbances in his head.
I've always thought of "Pink" as being a combination of Roger's life experiences and associated PTSD and neuroses, with a good dose of Syd's madness. And I think it's essential to know that going in, since in my own experience, I enjoyed this album way more after I understood fully what it was about. It hits a lot harder like that. And Cameron explained it all perfectly.
This seminal album is best listened to by yourself, in one sitting (or on a long roadtrip)...many times...over decades...it will continue to reveal more and more.
i spent many a night, in the 80s, 90s, and probably more, with the lights off and lying on the floor with my legs up on the couch, listening to this whole album on great headphones. full immersion.
Blaming Roger Waters only for the firing of Rick Wright is so annoying. Gilmour was just as on board for firing him as Waters was, people forget that Gilmour has the final say on the history of PF at this point, everything about this band now runs through him (a band he didn’t even start)
Rick Wright was relaxing on a yacht somewhere warm and the band had a deadline to finish the album. He wasn't being lazy though, he was trying to recover from some kind of breakdown and didn't feel able to continue working on the album. So they couldn't agree.
@@Dekoherence-ii8pw IIRC He was struggling with a cocaine addiction and going through a divorce and wasn't willing to spend more time with the band as they were struggling with bankruptcy at the time so they let him go. For the tour they hired him as a session musician so he was ironically the only one to make money off of the tour, but he also played as best as he could in hopes that they'd let him back into the band, something that would only be done after Roger had left and Gilmour had fully taken over.
The album was Roger holding up a mirror to his own childhood, the loss of his dad fighting in Italy, his mental health growing without his dad and what was politically happening here in England at the time of its inception. In the late 1970's we saw rise in young white men joining fascist far right groups like the national front and the BNP. These groups duped young working class men into thinking that it was foreigners and people of colour who were behind them being unable to find work when it was in fact it was globalisation, cheap imports, government policies and the global economy as a whole that closed down the factory jobs they tended to work in. These groups were very often violent particularly at football matches. Roger was somewhat bitter and angry that these groups were gaining political ground in the UK and the album was kind of father didn’t die fighting fascism for them to them to try and gain power in the UK.
someone probably said this before but you do realize alot of these songs are duets between Roger and Dave.....Roger is always the voice that has tension and Dave is the relief...Dave is the soulfull soothing voice that leads you to serenity and Roger is angsty and sometimes angry voice that sparks the lyrics.....and yes when they played this live for the wall tour Roger wore a lab coat and spoke to pink behind the Wall, while dave appeared above the wall to dleiver his solo that brought the album to its crescendo.
I'm sure others have already said this, but Pink Floyd had 3 vocalists during their classic period. David Gilmour (the guitarist and best of the three singers) is the one who sang the chorus of Comfortably Numb, Hey You, etc. Roger sings the majority of this album, which is why it sounds so strained. Rick, the keyboardist, sang a lot during the earlier years. FYI, David wrote the music for Young Lust, Comfortably Numb, and Run Like Hell.
I’d recommend for some artists to listen to next would be Black Sabbath(pioneers of metal), Led Zeppelin (hard rock, amazing guitar solos), or King Crimson(same genre as Pink Floyd)
You should consider that "Pink" spent a significant portion of his childhood hiding in bomb shelters underground to keep from being killed by Nazi bombing runs. I assume his mother took out her anger, fear, and resentment of their loss by putting all of her efforts into keeping him safe. Even at the cost of closing Pink off from the rest of the world (the wall's foundation). Any psych expert will tell you a kid's relationship with their parents will help to form their identity for the rest of their lives. There is a difference between blaming someone and finding the root cause of childhood trauma.
bro I loved the reaction but calling someone a pussy for being traumatized by an emotionally abusive parent is wild. That shit is why people are afraid to seek help for poor mental health.
Four albums to add to the list if they aren't already there: The Velvet Underground & Nico - The Velvet Underground & Nico Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven - GY!BE Toxicity - System Of A Down The Glow, Pt. 2 - The Microphones
You should be considering Pink Floyd as the big 5, which would include MEDDLE, it is a great album and when you consider the absolute huge musicality of the work, it deserves being listed up there with the rest!
I consider it to be a big 7 honestly Meddle, OBC, DSOTM, WYWH, Animals, Wall, and Final Cut ALL in equal quality, Meddle and OBC being just a smidge lower
@@treestumps_I’d mostly agree, but Obscured by Clouds, while great, is a level below the rest, and the Final Cut is honestly kinda of trash imo because it’s basically a Roger Waters solo album with the begrudging backing of the other three members, and quite honestly the album reeks of that. I’d replace the Final Cut with Piper at the Gates of Dawn.
Right?! Also skipping the phone call at the end of the first half where he’s trying to call his wife back in England but a man keeps answering and hanging up. So much depth added in a few seconds and they totally missed it.
You accidentally cut off his phone call home to his wife with a strange man's voice answering and hanging up. That is why he started smashing things. You need to listen again all the way through with the lyrics in front of you without filming it to really appreciate it. Then watch the movie 😊
"When the Tigers Broke Free" explains the death of his father which is in the movie but not the album, instead included on "The Final Cut." imo, it's the hardest song of the story and worth a listen.
I have been listening to this since its release (I’m old). Do yourself a favor and listen to it again in 5 year intervals. Also listen to Dark Side of the Moon again and again thru the years. Age and experience will reveal just how brilliant these guys were to be so young.
The reason you liked the chorus vocals on Comfortably Numb so much is because it’s David Gilmour the guitarist singing, who is a much better vocalist than Waters. Gilmour sang most of dark side of the moon and wish you were here. Animals is when Waters took over a majority of the vocals until he left the band.
Bought this album right after it came out. I had just turned 18 and yeah there was no context I will be 62 on my birthday and I still listen to this and other pf albums regularly and then sometimes I can watch two young guys that aren't much older than I was back then listening to some of my favorite music ~ life is good enjoy it gentlemen
The reason Pink became a nazi was because he was so crazy and bitter towards everyone outside his wall. The reason he stops and puts himself on trial is because he realizes he's becoming the very thing that killed his father. The very thing that began the creation of his wall.
Its not only "ROGER"s album, its pinks Floyd album, everyone did perfect on performing and lyrics, The "idea" of it , - its really a Impact to reality, theres bad things , and remembering what was wrong makes you improve. The Wall is everything is wrong and Wright at the same time.
FYI - AXE is slang for guitar - The room has the guitars he uses in the show, and he asks the groupie "Do you want to see my favorite axe". "Comfortably Numb" is arguably the song that was the nail that broke the division between Roger Waters and David Gilmore. Gilmore wrote the song, and was singing the part of Pink "There is no pain, you are receding...", and the entire song was like that. Waters put the part of the doctor in, and was singing that part. Gilmore and Waters had a huge argument over how the song should go because it was hugely personal.to David, and he didn't want Roger bringing in the doctor parts. Their producer sided with Rodger, and went behind David's back to give us the cut we got. David, to his credit recognizes the complete artistry of the collaborative effort and plays "Comfortably Numb as it appears on the album Also, the first guitar solo is mellow and warmer tones, where as the second solo is a harsher, more biting solo. There's a reason for that. Compare the two conversations in the different parts of the song. It's like Pink has gone through a transformation from the kid wanting to make music to the rock star and someone he doesn't know. "In the Flesh?" and "In the Flesh" are two different parts of the same song. Note the ? on the first one you hear. in the opening of the album.
The guy who stars as Pink in the movie is the lead singer of the Boomtown Rats, Bob Geldof...better known as the organizer of the 1985 Live Aid concert.
it will be interesting if you go way back to pink floyd's first album, piper at the gates of dawn. you will see a very big difference from the "pink floyd" you've been listening before
I haven't listened to this whole album in a real long time. Just stumbled on your reaction and it really brought me back about four decades. Thank you. They only did four or five concerts on the tour of this album because it was so involved and expensive (why Rick Wright, as a contract employee, was the only one who made money on the tour), but there is an immaculately recorded live album of one of the shows that I recommend you listen to. It will show you how incredibly perfectly they pulled off the live performance.
During comfortably numb the voice that you liked better was David Gilmour almost the entire album with sung by Roger, but the more calming voice is David
In addition to the actual movie, waters did a tour show of the wall which they made a film of and it’s much more modern and really really great considering it’s a concert. I would love to have seen that concert. Look it up. Worth seeing.
I saw this concert in LA. They only performed this concert a very limited number of times and my friends and I were lucky enough to get tickets to the second night of their week in LA. Every time they said “it’s just another brick in the wall” another brick was placed between the band and the audience. The album was a two disc set, by the end of the first disc there was a 30-40’ wall across the stage with the brick filling a backlit signer saying “Goodbye”. Third side of the album they would appear in openings in the wall, like an apartment scene, but “pink” never looks out at the audience. During “Comfortably Numb”, the guitar solo was performed from atop the wall. During the course of the concert, they blew us away with 40’ puppets, a plane crash, and flowers fucking! One buddy said of the flowers fucking, “I almost came and I think that half the audience did!”
Yall really need to do My Chemical Romance's "The Black Parade" at some point. It is our modern day "The Wall". Very much a rock opera and takes many inspirations from this album. I was obsessed with this album/movie as a kid and asked for it on VHS for my 8th birthday back in the 90s. Still an amazing album.
In “One of my Turns”, what he meant by “You’ll find my favorite axe” was literally just his favorite guitar. Axe is a common slang term for an electric guitar.
"To beat to a pulp" line isn't about physical abuse. It's interesting how many reactors misinterpret that line thinking Pink "beat his wife". Loved your alls reaction! ❤❤
That line is 100% about physical abuse. The whole point of "Don't Leave Me Now" is Pink afraid to lose his wife, pleading with her not to leave him, yet for all the wrong reasons. "put through the shredder in front of my friends" is the verbal abuse while "beat to a pulp" is the physical. Pink is truly broken and this song illustrates it in a very dark way.
@@ianfortier6796 Pink gives voice to the warring emotions within, in one instant begging his wife to not “say it’s the end of the road”, then seconds later threatening to “beat [her] to a pulp on a Saturday night.” It’s something of a shock for the audience to hear the largely submissive Pink not only conjure up brutal images of physical abuse but also relish in the thought of meting them on his wife. For many, the question then arises as to whether Pink is actually physically abusive to his wife? Are these random beatings that he sings about true? In his interview with Roger Waters, interviewer Tommy Vance aptly (and alliteratively) described Pink as wallowing in the “depths…of deprived depravity” at this point in the album, a mental state one should keep in mind before interpreting the lyrics a bit too literally. Though the listener is invited to draw her or his own conclusions, it’s doubtful that the beatings Pink sings of are real. Rather, it seems they are meant to reflect Pink’s mental state as he puts the final touches to his wall, painting a portrait of a man at his breaking point licking his wounds, so to speak, by fantasizing revenge for being cuckolded and left alone in what he sees a cruel world.
@@Grithron2 Pink gives voice to the warring emotions within, in one instant begging his wife to not “say it’s the end of the road”, then seconds later threatening to “beat [her] to a pulp on a Saturday night.” It’s something of a shock for the audience to hear the largely submissive Pink not only conjure up brutal images of physical abuse but also relish in the thought of meting them on his wife. For many, the question then arises as to whether Pink is actually physically abusive to his wife? Are these random beatings that he sings about true? In his interview with Roger Waters, interviewer Tommy Vance aptly (and alliteratively) described Pink as wallowing in the “depths…of deprived depravity” at this point in the album, a mental state one should keep in mind before interpreting the lyrics a bit too literally. Though the listener is invited to draw her or his own conclusions, it’s doubtful that the beatings Pink sings of are real. Rather, it seems they are meant to reflect Pink’s mental state as he puts the final touches to his wall, painting a portrait of a man at his breaking point licking his wounds, so to speak, by fantasizing revenge for being cuckolded and left alone in what he sees a cruel world.
He said “claw your way through this disguise.” This album was definitely part of the 80’s anxiety road. The “blitz” was the numbing of England during world war 2. He told you his father died in the very first song. “Daddy’s flown across the ocean. Leaving just a memory.”
I remember in 7th grade, last day of school before summer and the school bus driver was blasting this on the school bus. Of course, this song isn't really anti-education. It's speaking out against rigid conformity and stifling creativity and individuality. But to us kids, it was just a big middle finger to the school!
I want to add a few details about the song Run LIke Hell. The chanting is sometimes Pink Floyd and sometimes Hammer, each represent different political wings. Also, Run Like Hell includes a book reference from Lord of The Flies, a book that is meant to explain how tyranism and dictatorship fails among democracies, which is what happened in the song itself. In the song it says "as the conch shell shatters" the conch shell is a major sign of democracy in the book, and it physically broke, breaking down the democracy of the book. Pink floyd used the reference to portray the end of Pink's democracy and the start of the new regime. It is strongly connected with nazism as one of the lyrics also quote "theyre gonna send you back to your mother in a cardboard box" something that nazis had done to jewish people prior to ww2. Of course pink floyd is not a nazi band, they are rather explaining the dangers of politics
I love the begining of goodbye blue sky with young pink saying "look mom theres an airplane in the sky". From an innocent childs eye its just a plane but for the mom its a scar.
Roger did not just quit the band..... After the final cut... no one wanted to work together anymore.... They all decided that Pink Floyd was finished.... The others were super pissed that Roger had done a solo album even tho each of them had done at least one and this was Rogers first solo... David was making his 3rd solo album but the record company didnt want it.,... they told him they wanted Pink Floyd... so he got with Bob Ezrin and they put together a bacn of studio musicians and Nick Mason.... and made a record that sounded like Pink Floyd... so they went on tour hired Rick Wright to be there... and called themselves Pink Floyd and played hours of Roger Waters songs...
Not gonna lie: The Wall double album is one of the best things i've ever listened to and despite me hating almost every Musical movie, Pink Floyd's The Wall movie is a must watch experience!
I am only 19 minutes in but just had to pause the video to say I love this. I first listened to this album in the 90s - right around your age I suspect. Listened kind of like you are now (in the video, comfortable, on headphones with a friend). Complete with allergy sniffs hahahaha. This album changed my life. This album was the first time I truly experienced transcendence and ego loss into both dark and light. Utterly transportive. No psychedelics at the time - just allergy sniffs. OK ... I will unpause now and keep going. Thank you guys for this. In the words of The Final Cut ... "memories come rushing up to meet me now ..." 🙏
Good start guys. Many of us like to pump up the sound to hear the music. Please adjust your sound levels so your voices don't blow our eardrums when you speak.
I'd recommend you check out "metropolis pt.2: scenes from a memory." The part one is a song that you don't have to listen to before it. It is a great album, and it's also a story album
11:30 and i might add, the guy giving the description of the wall is so on point. that was quite possibly one of thee best descriptions of the wall ever. well done!! :D :D
Best rock opera ever, best concept album ever. The album that affected me the most, I was obsessed with this album when I was in my late teens in 1994. Thankyou for reacting to one of my most favorite albums of all time. Much respect!
Kameron is very much correct. The Dark Side of the Moon was peak Floyd because it was a collaboration between all 4 members. Wish You Were Here is also pretty good because all 4 members contributed, but it was starting to veer towards Roger and less so but still verring toward David Gilmour. Animals was the first album where Roger started to take most of the creative control, and he is credited on all 5 songs on the album. You may remember how Animals was 3 massive songs with the two "Pigs on the Wing" tracks sandwiching them. Well, back in the day, it did not matter how long a song was, it still gave the same cut of revenue to the songwriter from album sales as every other song. So, according to percentages, "Pigs on the Wing" parts 1 and 2 are worth 40% of the revenue. Some claim that Roger forced these two songs onto Animals for precisely this reason. There is only one song on Animals that another member of Pink Floyd has credit on. That song is Dogs, the longest track on the album, and David Gilmour is given credit. He pretty much wrote the song, but because of Roger's all-important lyrics, Roger also gets 50% of the cut. Every other song only Roger is given credit, even though Rick Wright and David Gilmour (and to a lesser extent Nick Mason) all contributed in the songwriting of the other tracks. I think you can now understand why many members of Pink Floyd have not only begun to hate Roger Waters by The Wall, but also feel inadequate in their own songwriting skills because of how much Roger claims Pink Floyd is "his", even though the other members of Pink Floyd are legendary songwriters in their own right. Just look at The Division Bell, the album that was made without Roger Waters after he left. Is it as good as the "Big Four"? No. Roger is still an incredible songwriter. But does it showcase that the other bandmembers are talented too? Yes, with one song on the album even winning a grammy! I would not trust the credits on The Wall either. Anyway, sorry for the essay, hope you enjoyed!
"outside the wall" sums up the story by saying no matter how bad things are,and how removed from the world someone becomes, "the ones who really love you" have it worse by trying to help you. "after all, it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall".
I love how the emotions are just dragged up and down continuously through the album, and with the movie addin some amazing imager, it really does rock to the core
This album is partly about Roger and his life and partly about Syd Barrett their original singer and friend who had mental struggles and shut himself off from the world and leaving the band never seeing them again. You should deffo do a brief history of Syd Barrett. There's some good videos on here that you can react too.
if you like this album style in which each song flows into the next and follows the life and story of a particular character, then I absolutely recommend Joe's Garage by Frank Zappa. At the time there was a bunch of controversy with the government trying to censor and ban certain aspects of music, and as a 'nah fuck you', frank made an album containing all the things they were trying to censor, so its a very graphic album you could say, but his guitar playing speaks for itself!
Roger Waters and a lot of guests performed the whole album in Berlin in 1990, a few months after the Berlin Wall came down. Can you imagine how cathartic that was?
Phenomenal album. I listened to this for the first time a few months back and was absolutely floored Maybe some Led Zeppelin next? Any of their first six albums is a good pick, but my favourite would be Led Zeppelin II. Great work guys!
You need to dig into the historical context in Britain in the 70's. There were a rise of neo fascist. In fact in the song, the words have been pronounced in REAL LIFE by Eric Clapton himself (about the colored to go back home !!). It's real life retell, Pink is on the "personal side" Roger & Roger (Barret & Waters). But it's also on a symbolic level "The Rock Star", "The Idol"... The crazy one moving crowds behind him while he's himself totally lost. It's not strictly a bio, Roger Waters is far more brilliant than that. Some specific takes (the death of his father) is an alibi in story telling, to talk about a more general problems of "children home alone". He was talking politics. Vera Lynn was a singer in the WWII, her most famous song was about "We'll meet again". A false promise from the propaganda of war. Also, R.Waters have no problem with his mother and always praise her. The mother in the Wall is symbolic. Of course you can pick "real life" stuff in the story, but forget it. Pink is "nobody", Pink is a Rock Star becoming crazy and fascist. That was the context of 70's. Waters hates fascists. He created a character where "in this universe" he becomes fascist because he's lost and self centered.
Interestingly, the lyrics to Another Brick in the Wall, pt. 2 meant one thing when it was written, but today, at least in the U.S., it can have an entirely different meaning. At least, the problems it's referring to are coming from the opposite side.
As a musician and a huge Pink Anderson-Floyd Council fan, I love what you guys are doing. Very entertaining. Cheers from Nova Scotia, Canada...Actually now getting further in I enjoyed the musician dude. Breaking up the album in sniipets I can't watch or handle..
I'm 40ish. I can easily draw neat lines in my life that divide it as before and after a certain event; usually those lines are significant events, like my parents divorce, meeting my gf (my wife, now), starting to make music, becoming a father and such. But 4 of these lines are actually set by my first interaction with what you can call "Art works" and these are, in chronological order: -watching "Forrest Gump" (first time at the cinema); -watching "Jurassic Park"; -hearing "The Wall" by Pink Floyd; -reading "The Waste Land" by Thomas Stern Eliot. Just to express how important this album has been in my life. Love the fact that you went through it properly aware and with proper preparation about its content; kudos to Kameron! ❤
Comfortably Numb live at pulse reaction Wednesday!
Sweet
The ending solo will melt your brain fr
Hell yes! My favorite version of the song
@@braydenmagid9037real
Great! Please dont pause or talk during the solo
All the nazi stuff is meant to show how out of it Pink is during his outrage and how isolation can transform people into absolute monsters, even the opposite of who they used to be, it’s also meant to be ironic because his father was killed by Nazis and he is essentially becoming the problem that started the chain reaction that led to him building the wall in the first place.
Isolation, drugs, and escapism.
There was also a weird thing with some 70s rock stars where heavy drug use led to a strange flirtation with far right politics or at least posturing - Bowie's infamous salute during his Thin White Duke phase, Eric Clapton's comments on race at one of his gigs. I think Bowie was just being provocative, stupidly. Clapton has always been more problematic.
Nazis are Socialist
@@davidmannion7333 In what way "always" ? Pre- and post- the Birmingham incident, EC was a huge advocate for black musicians from Morganfield to Marley and more [context here for that dumb joke about Jimi's dick] - and more importantly he has emerged as an important advocate for the basic human right to bodily autonomy, in the face of once-unimaginable neo-communist behavior from Western governments.
@@davidmannion7333Nazis are left wing
Even if you don't make a video out of it, you two should watch the film, too. It's basically a music video for the album.
The movie also has some music (like What Shall We Do Now) that was cut from the album because it didn’t fit onto two LP records.
It would be kind of cool if they reacted to the movie on the channel though.
The Film SUCKS Di*k
YES, DO IT!!! The Movie is kind of life changing too! lots of iconic stuff in it.
You HAVE to watch the film!
50:05 the reason u notice the difference in “his” voice is because it’s david gilmour singing, not roger waters
Yep, Gilmour is the one they’re referring to as the OG vocals. Much more melodic singer than Roger, although Roger’s voice works particularly well on this album with all of the dark places it goes.
@@capsdude4838 no kidding
@@capsdude4838 If you want to get a real feeling for the difference between the two vocally, listen to Roger trying to sing Wish You Were Here on his In The Flesh tour from 1999. Then listen to David trying to sing the 3rd verse of Hey You on the PULSE live album.
Cuz Roger’s voice is ass
@@brianmoore8407 That's not David singing verse 3 of Hey You on PULSE, that's Guy Pratt singing Roger's part. I think a better comparison would be Roger singing Eclipse on Dark Side vs David singing Eclipse on PULSE.
Actually, Roger spoke fondly of his mother and said that part of overprotective mother wasn't the thing he had in his life. He respected her and said she gave him everything he knows.
It isn't just Roger's story, it's partially his, but Pink is fictional character, of course.
People want to apply Pink to Waters too much. They don't understand that "of course" he used SOMETIMES his own experience, he also was INSPIRED by Barret, but it doesn't stop there... Pink is... "A Rock Star"... An idol. It's a fusion of ALL idols of that time... The "nazi quote" about colored people (I don't remember the exact words now), has been said in real life by Eric Clapton in the 70's... So Pink is not "just Pink Floyd" neither, it's also Eric Clapton (particularly the Nazi part :) ).
Partially his, partially Syd's, partially other people, partially fictional, partially generic rock stars
Mommy and Daddy issues arent a sign of immaturity, they are a psychological certainty that are a byproduct of the human experience. "Until you make the unconscious conscious it will direct your life and you will call it fate" - Carl Jung. When John Lennon (preached love...lived love) went solo and played Madison Square Garden he was rich, married, had kids, was at peak fame, and could say whatever he wanted to. He sang his song "Mother"....the live version of which is available just a click away (John Lennon Mother MSG).....thinking you are too "mature" at 21 to have Mommy Issues should seem laughable if you consider Waters/Jung/Lennon's take on things.
@@garryiglesias4074 And Clapton played it on the first solo tour by Roger Waters, after the publishing of The Pros and Cons of Hitch-Hiking. I've heard Clapton speaking of that racist period of his life in an interview. He sais: "I must have been out of my head, some of my best friends were black actually"
@@lucapolidori8817 Yeah, I don't condemn Clapton for life. He said stupid things, I hope, for him that he's not as bad. I was just pointing at the fact that "pink" is a composite character, inspired by the ambiance of that time, and real events, not at all a simple "Waters only replica".
Back in time when people listen to albums, not songs. At that time, The Wall is literally the best thing in the planet. As an album, The Wall is 100/10. The story, the production, the lyrics, the atmosphere, the emotion, the scary, the intensity. Thats how you end the greatest album run in history.
Dark Side of The Moon
Wish You Were Here
Animals
The Wall
Pink Floyd is absolutely up there in the greatest band of all time.
lot of people still listen to albums.
Well said sir, my pfp is from the wall!
People still listen to albums
@@sirswanky8686 i didn't say people don't listen albums anymore tho
@@revanasywal you said “back when people listen to albums” which implies people don’t anymore
I feel like there's a fine line between taking in the narrative of the record and 100% equating the character of Pink to a 1:1 facsimile of Roger Waters. Yes, it's loosely based on Roger Waters' life and experience, and yes he is a flawed individual. Find me someone who isn't. But at its core, this is a somewhat universal fictional story about circumstance, internal defense mechanisms and coming to terms with our trauma and our own decisions. You really shouldn't let it dictate your opinion of who Roger Waters is all that much, and frankly there's a lot more to that story than this album or what you've been told about either it or him, other than this is his art and it speaks for itself.
This is not a record for the literal minded.
Well said
Excellently put!
One thing you should never ever do, is talk over a Gilmour guitar solo.
No that’s right. What this dude says is true.
If you don’t want to hear the talking/reaction then what are you doing here
@@RomeroMero255 Not over the solo, you can talk elsewhere
I always talk over it. It really pumps my nads.
The blitz was a massive bombing campaign that Germany did to England between 1940 to 1941 and that's addressed with Goodbye blue skies.
The story is an embellishment for the sake of the storyline,
not to be taken literally as autobiographical. Pink is a FICTIONAL character inspired by elements of both Roger and Syd.
In one interview from around the time the album came out, Roger said that one of the things he wanted to point out is how dangerous it is to blindly follow any public figure, be they politician or Rockstar, and that doing so can take you down some pretty dark pathways without you even realizing it.
If you're going to hate on Roger do it for the right reasons.. not for coming up with this brilliant, multi-layered concept album.
The live shows of The Wall was so big and expensive they could only afford to do a few shows in the U.S in 1980. During the course of the show a 40-foot high wall of cardboard bricks is slowly constructed across the stage as the show progresses that expanded the full width of the stadium wall to wall. By the end of side 2, ("goodbye cruel world") the final brick is installed and the band is completely walled off from the audience!
"Hey You" the beginning of side 3, is performed completely behind the wall while crazy nightmarish animation is projected onto the outside of the edifice. (Pink Floyd had their own animator). Bricks in the Wall are removed here and there to reveal Roger or Dave singing and playing through the rest of the show. Roger appears in front of the wall dressed as a doctor in "Comfortably Numb" as the spots suddenly hit Dave standing on top of the wall to sing the chorus and perform the legendary solos. Show stopper!!
Roger appears again as a fascist dictator in full Nazi regalia during "In the Flesh" 1&2. How did the crowd react? they ate it up!! They get it.
Roger last toured with The Wall live in 2012 -13 at stadiums all across America. Even bigger and more extravagant than the original shows. It was something to behold.
(Did I mention a plane flies across the stadium and crashes into the side of the stage in a ball of flames during the opening "In the flesh"?) every sound and effect is reproduced in 3D surround sound by speakers placed 360 degrees around the stadium as they did with ALL of their live shows, including Pulse.)
Go BIG or go home.
@@DannyMylercomfynumb and nobody went bigger than these guys.
i saw one of the LA shows. it was amazing.
My wife and I went to a Roger Waters performance if the wall in Dallas and when the wall came down, some of the cardboard blocks fell on us. It was great.
@@robertspain3742 it's a shame you couldn't steal it as a keepsake.
"Stop yapping" was definitely a good suggestion
What😂
holy crap ive nevber seen a 14 min intro that was better than Valium
Like, you know, that's like, you know . . . like, that's just like, you know, your opinion, maaaaaan.
He wouldn’t stfu
"Embrace"
"You'll find my favorite ax" : Ax was a slang term for guitar but was likely deliberately chosen here to evoke the double meaning.
Or more accurately, axe, as the album and lyrics were written by a Brit!
I came to here to look for this comment. I thought axe as slang for guitar was better know, but lots of people in reaction videos didn’t know it. Love that we all keep learning.
That part always reminded me of American psycho
"Why the Nazi shit?" This was because it was Fascism that his father had gone to fight against, and it was Fascism that took his father's life and kicked off the entire downward spiral, so it played such an import part of Pinks early life that we see the complete irony that it's Fascism that Pink turns towards as a form of "strength" against the pain of being a normal, caring, loving, human being.
The ultimate and most extreme twist of the young rebelling against the ideals of their parents.
Definitely a warning to everyone, to beware of those "wannabe dictators" who seek power and immunity from the law governing everyone else.
They offer a "sence of belonging" and a "sence of being victimised" to drum up hatred and anger that any reasonable person would immediately identify as a "Cult Worship".
Not at all... Of course his father was KIA, but in that context it's from the 70's fascist rising in Britain. The infamous quote about "colored people back home" or something like that is a REAL LIFE QUOTE... From... Eric Clapton... This sentence had been pronounced by Eric Clapton in the 70's. Pink is not "Roger&Roger"... Pink is an allegory, a stereotype of a "Rock Star becoming crazy". SOME elements are from Waters, some other from Barret, and MANY other from "the typical rock star at THAT time". Problem with celebrity, drugs, girls, losing your head being followed like Jesus. The Wall is about THAT... Not Roger Waters single life like many people tend to believe. And some of them to discredit him accusing him of "fascism".
And also because Roger has all his life been against Fascism. Yes, it's fascism folks, what's going on right now.
Fascism aka the most successful system in the world's history...so successful it had to be destroyed
the last part is why I, a scandinavian, follow the american election so closely.... lol
And given that I just watched some young kids on the streets of Chichester, England, being interviewed, and they said if they could vote they'd vote Reform... Oh my god!
The Reform party was set up by leading elites of the establishment, it encourages hate, homophobia, islamophia, it rails against wokeness and promised to make England 'for the English'. I thought only people of a certain age fell for this crap. And there's a 15-year-old, mixed heritage boy telling the interviewer that the Reform party is for the working class, and they'll stop all the immigrants getting housing ahead of English people. Quite how the Reform party has managed to pull such a PR stunt is beyond me. Apparently they're using TikTok to reach the younger generation. It's chilling.
The lore part was absolutely amazing. I spent my teens fanboying over PF, so I know it all, but the caller presented it all so good and coherently. Great storyteller!
I can't imagine a better introduction to the album and band!
The wall tour was a financial disaster, and seeing Richard Wright was hired as a touring musician, he was paid $250,000 and was the only one to make any money.
Poetic
Maybe so but Rick wright was half the sound.
@@Zeus-the-mighty without a doubt!
48:10, that's not waters singing, it's David Gilmour.
The Blitz was the period when Germany basically terror bombed London, targeting civilian areas. If you know the history, the introduction to Goodbye, Blue Sky with the plane is so sad and reflects the brutality of modern war. The small child naturally filled with wonder at seeing a large plane in the sky right before it unloads devestation and death.
This album came out in 1979. The movie came out 3 years later. So despite what the millennials say, you don't need to watch the movie to understand the album, you can understand it yourself just by listening, like we did at the time. By the time the movie came out it was like watching a movie based on your favourite book - nice to see but it never matches up to what's in your own imagination.
Thank you. So true. What really gets me is when they call this a soundtrack album. Nothing could be further from the truth. The movie was adapted from the album years later. The album is the original work! Floyd fans and fans of the album understood the piece long before the movie came out. Didn't need it to explain anything to us. If anything the movie falls short.
@@flubblertIndeed. By "explaining the plot" it tends to narrow the work to just one interpretation. When you experience the album on its own, through repeated listens, you form your own interpretation, which can even change over time as you get older and different elements resonate more. And it's just more fun and rewarding to work things out for yourself.
@@dougrussell5002 nothing can beat listening overtime and having the album and its meaning come to you vs the other way around. The album is and always will be the primary and most rewarding way to experience this masterpiece. Patience coupled with a little knowledge and Imagination is its own reward.
Completely agree. Do not watch the movie before getting a personal understanding of what the album is about!
Yep.
One thing worth noting is the contrast between his father who died in World War II fighting fascist Nazi’s and now he has become what his father fought and he sees the disturbances in his head.
I've always thought of "Pink" as being a combination of Roger's life experiences and associated PTSD and neuroses, with a good dose of Syd's madness. And I think it's essential to know that going in, since in my own experience, I enjoyed this album way more after I understood fully what it was about. It hits a lot harder like that. And Cameron explained it all perfectly.
This seminal album is best listened to by yourself, in one sitting (or on a long roadtrip)...many times...over decades...it will continue to reveal more and more.
i spent many a night, in the 80s, 90s, and probably more, with the lights off and lying on the floor with my legs up on the couch, listening to this whole album on great headphones. full immersion.
I don’t think there is a more pure emotional guitar solo than the one in Comfortably Numb.
One of the most iconic and moving guitar solos ever recorded.
There's definitely an argument for High Hopes off of The Division Bell, but Comfortably Numb rightly deserves its plaudits.
Blaming Roger Waters only for the firing of Rick Wright is so annoying. Gilmour was just as on board for firing him as Waters was, people forget that Gilmour has the final say on the history of PF at this point, everything about this band now runs through him (a band he didn’t even start)
Correct👍
Yes, Roger asked for and received Gilmour's approval for letting Wright go.
Rick Wright was relaxing on a yacht somewhere warm and the band had a deadline to finish the album. He wasn't being lazy though, he was trying to recover from some kind of breakdown and didn't feel able to continue working on the album. So they couldn't agree.
Finally a voice of reason, everyone always vilifies Roger but I don't believe he left because he thought he was to good for the band.
@@Dekoherence-ii8pw IIRC He was struggling with a cocaine addiction and going through a divorce and wasn't willing to spend more time with the band as they were struggling with bankruptcy at the time so they let him go. For the tour they hired him as a session musician so he was ironically the only one to make money off of the tour, but he also played as best as he could in hopes that they'd let him back into the band, something that would only be done after Roger had left and Gilmour had fully taken over.
The album was Roger holding up a mirror to his own childhood, the loss of his dad fighting in Italy, his mental health growing without his dad and what was politically happening here in England at the time of its inception. In the late 1970's we saw rise in young white men joining fascist far right groups like the national front and the BNP. These groups duped young working class men into thinking that it was foreigners and people of colour who were behind them being unable to find work when it was in fact it was globalisation, cheap imports, government policies and the global economy as a whole that closed down the factory jobs they tended to work in. These groups were very often violent particularly at football matches. Roger was somewhat bitter and angry that these groups were gaining political ground in the UK and the album was kind of father didn’t die fighting fascism for them to them to try and gain power in the UK.
someone probably said this before but you do realize alot of these songs are duets between Roger and Dave.....Roger is always the voice that has tension and Dave is the relief...Dave is the soulfull soothing voice that leads you to serenity and Roger is angsty and sometimes angry voice that sparks the lyrics.....and yes when they played this live for the wall tour Roger wore a lab coat and spoke to pink behind the Wall, while dave appeared above the wall to dleiver his solo that brought the album to its crescendo.
Axe is slang for guitar
And there is a movie of this album.
I'm sure others have already said this, but Pink Floyd had 3 vocalists during their classic period. David Gilmour (the guitarist and best of the three singers) is the one who sang the chorus of Comfortably Numb, Hey You, etc. Roger sings the majority of this album, which is why it sounds so strained. Rick, the keyboardist, sang a lot during the earlier years.
FYI, David wrote the music for Young Lust, Comfortably Numb, and Run Like Hell.
Its been mentioned, ha, I've written it on every reaction but they still haven't gotten it, but what can you do :) ??
I’d recommend for some artists to listen to next would be Black Sabbath(pioneers of metal), Led Zeppelin (hard rock, amazing guitar solos), or King Crimson(same genre as Pink Floyd)
Yes, they absolutely have to do some King Crimson!!
They definitely have to do "In the court of the crimson king" album... It's still the best progressive rock album of all time in my opinion
You should consider that "Pink" spent a significant portion of his childhood hiding in bomb shelters underground to keep from being killed by Nazi bombing runs. I assume his mother took out her anger, fear, and resentment of their loss by putting all of her efforts into keeping him safe. Even at the cost of closing Pink off from the rest of the world (the wall's foundation). Any psych expert will tell you a kid's relationship with their parents will help to form their identity for the rest of their lives. There is a difference between blaming someone and finding the root cause of childhood trauma.
David Gilmour and Roger Waters had a lot of similarities with John Lennon and Paul McCartney. Goat Duo. 🐐🐐
Yes sir 😫😫
Or Roger Hodgson and Richard Davies of Supertramp.
@kevinmcfarlane2752 I second this. Supertramp is so good, and seeing the live performances in the 70s I get the same vibe as Waters and Gilmour
bro I loved the reaction but calling someone a pussy for being traumatized by an emotionally abusive parent is wild. That shit is why people are afraid to seek help for poor mental health.
Worst thing is the album is from 1979 and these people are talking like this in 2024
such an Ignorant thing to say right?
Four albums to add to the list if they aren't already there:
The Velvet Underground & Nico - The Velvet Underground & Nico
Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven - GY!BE
Toxicity - System Of A Down
The Glow, Pt. 2 - The Microphones
+2 for toxicity
Deathconsciousness by Have a Nice Life would also be amazing.
And MBDTF
and TPAB
Joy division unknown pleasures
You should be considering Pink Floyd as the big 5, which would include MEDDLE, it is a great album and when you consider the absolute huge musicality of the work, it deserves being listed up there with the rest!
I consider it to be a big 7 honestly
Meddle, OBC, DSOTM, WYWH, Animals, Wall, and Final Cut
ALL in equal quality, Meddle and OBC being just a smidge lower
@@treestumps_I’d mostly agree, but Obscured by Clouds, while great, is a level below the rest, and the Final Cut is honestly kinda of trash imo because it’s basically a Roger Waters solo album with the begrudging backing of the other three members, and quite honestly the album reeks of that. I’d replace the Final Cut with Piper at the Gates of Dawn.
Jump cutting through the 2nd solo of Comfortably Numb is music sacrilege
Cutting off the end of Comfortably Numb was harsh brothers 😂
Right?! Also skipping the phone call at the end of the first half where he’s trying to call his wife back in England but a man keeps answering and hanging up. So much depth added in a few seconds and they totally missed it.
Right on.
@nicolasmartinez795 yes I know that’s not the part you cut out, nbd tho
When in One of My Turns Roger sings "my favorite axe" it has double meaning: actual axe and type of gitaur, cause Pink is musician
Kameron, you legend. Absolutely set the lads up with everything they needed to crack on with the album!!
Bro is a real one for informing yall💯
Real groomer
You accidentally cut off his phone call home to his wife with a strange man's voice answering and hanging up. That is why he started smashing things. You need to listen again all the way through with the lyrics in front of you without filming it to really appreciate it. Then watch the movie 😊
"When the Tigers Broke Free" explains the death of his father which is in the movie but not the album, instead included on "The Final Cut." imo, it's the hardest song of the story and worth a listen.
I have been listening to this since its release (I’m old). Do yourself a favor and listen to it again in 5 year intervals. Also listen to Dark Side of the Moon again and again thru the years. Age and experience will reveal just how brilliant these guys were to be so young.
When you guys say that you prefer “when he does this tone of voice”, that’s David Gilmour singing. The rest is Roger Waters.
Ax is slang for a Guitar.
Ha! Kids these days.
@@Zeus-the-mighty”axe” is still common slang for guitar, it aint a “kids these days” thing lol
@@treestumps_ hey, we don’t need no education
😂😂😂😂 I honestly can’t tell if this thread went to shit or not.
The call-in was a great idea. ❤ Awesome video as always and you guys may be blown away by the band Rush
The reason you liked the chorus vocals on Comfortably Numb so much is because it’s David Gilmour the guitarist singing, who is a much better vocalist than Waters. Gilmour sang most of dark side of the moon and wish you were here. Animals is when Waters took over a majority of the vocals until he left the band.
"Stop yapping" lives in my head rent free XD
Roger's father really was killed in WWII, and his grandfather killed in WWI. I'm sure this created a lot of the angst heard in The Wall.
Bought this album right after it came out. I had just turned 18 and yeah there was no context I will be 62 on my birthday and I still listen to this and other pf albums regularly and then sometimes I can watch two young guys that aren't much older than I was back then listening to some of my favorite music ~ life is good enjoy it gentlemen
I got this album when I was in 4th grade I’m 51 and still have it to this day. Great album
The reason Pink became a nazi was because he was so crazy and bitter towards everyone outside his wall.
The reason he stops and puts himself on trial is because he realizes he's becoming the very thing that killed his father. The very thing that began the creation of his wall.
The building of this wall and the attainment of ultimate power, being a fascist dictator, keeps out the very thing we all need, love.
Kameron seems like a really cool guy. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Its not only "ROGER"s album, its pinks Floyd album, everyone did perfect on performing and lyrics, The "idea" of it , - its really a Impact to reality, theres bad things , and remembering what was wrong makes you improve. The Wall is everything is wrong and Wright at the same time.
Nine inch nails - the downward spiral and nine inch nails - the fragile albums also. Will blow your minds.
Especially The Fragile which has somehow gone from being feted as a masterpiece to falling through the cracks of history.
@@Grithron2 it’s my fav NIN record. It’s my favorite record of all time.
Great idea to have Cameron on at the beginning to give you all the pertinent info. 👍🏽
(My profile pic 👈🏽 is from the Empty Spaces part of the movie)
FYI - AXE is slang for guitar - The room has the guitars he uses in the show, and he asks the groupie "Do you want to see my favorite axe".
"Comfortably Numb" is arguably the song that was the nail that broke the division between Roger Waters and David Gilmore. Gilmore wrote the song, and was singing the part of Pink "There is no pain, you are receding...", and the entire song was like that. Waters put the part of the doctor in, and was singing that part. Gilmore and Waters had a huge argument over how the song should go because it was hugely personal.to David, and he didn't want Roger bringing in the doctor parts. Their producer sided with Rodger, and went behind David's back to give us the cut we got. David, to his credit recognizes the complete artistry of the collaborative effort and plays "Comfortably Numb as it appears on the album
Also, the first guitar solo is mellow and warmer tones, where as the second solo is a harsher, more biting solo. There's a reason for that. Compare the two conversations in the different parts of the song. It's like Pink has gone through a transformation from the kid wanting to make music to the rock star and someone he doesn't know.
"In the Flesh?" and "In the Flesh" are two different parts of the same song. Note the ? on the first one you hear. in the opening of the album.
The guy who stars as Pink in the movie is the lead singer of the Boomtown Rats, Bob Geldof...better known as the organizer of the 1985 Live Aid concert.
The second solo from Comfortably Numb is considered one of the greatest solos ever created. David Gilmour is God!
it will be interesting if you go way back to pink floyd's first album, piper at the gates of dawn. you will see a very big difference from the "pink floyd" you've been listening before
and also to show you how pink floyd is when syd barret is leading the band
I haven't listened to this whole album in a real long time. Just stumbled on your reaction and it really brought me back about four decades. Thank you. They only did four or five concerts on the tour of this album because it was so involved and expensive (why Rick Wright, as a contract employee, was the only one who made money on the tour), but there is an immaculately recorded live album of one of the shows that I recommend you listen to. It will show you how incredibly perfectly they pulled off the live performance.
During comfortably numb the voice that you liked better was David Gilmour almost the entire album with sung by Roger, but the more calming voice is David
In addition to the actual movie, waters did a tour show of the wall which they made a film of and it’s much more modern and really really great considering it’s a concert. I would love to have seen that concert. Look it up. Worth seeing.
I saw this concert in LA. They only performed this concert a very limited number of times and my friends and I were lucky enough to get tickets to the second night of their week in LA. Every time they said “it’s just another brick in the wall” another brick was placed between the band and the audience. The album was a two disc set, by the end of the first disc there was a 30-40’ wall across the stage with the brick filling a backlit signer saying “Goodbye”. Third side of the album they would appear in openings in the wall, like an apartment scene, but “pink” never looks out at the audience. During “Comfortably Numb”, the guitar solo was performed from atop the wall. During the course of the concert, they blew us away with 40’ puppets, a plane crash, and flowers fucking! One buddy said of the flowers fucking, “I almost came and I think that half the audience did!”
Yall really need to do My Chemical Romance's "The Black Parade" at some point. It is our modern day "The Wall". Very much a rock opera and takes many inspirations from this album.
I was obsessed with this album/movie as a kid and asked for it on VHS for my 8th birthday back in the 90s. Still an amazing album.
In “One of my Turns”, what he meant by “You’ll find my favorite axe” was literally just his favorite guitar. Axe is a common slang term for an electric guitar.
Make that the big 5, you need to do "Meddle" which has the longest and best song ever "Echoes"
Feel like you slept through Hey You. I know it's hard to catch everything on the first listen, but that song is soul crushingly good.
"To beat to a pulp" line isn't about physical abuse. It's interesting how many reactors misinterpret that line thinking Pink "beat his wife". Loved your alls reaction! ❤❤
You have evidence for this interpretation - something that RW said on the subject?
In the movie he literally beats his wife though, not much alternate meaning you can take from the line
That line is 100% about physical abuse. The whole point of "Don't Leave Me Now" is Pink afraid to lose his wife, pleading with her not to leave him, yet for all the wrong reasons. "put through the shredder in front of my friends" is the verbal abuse while "beat to a pulp" is the physical. Pink is truly broken and this song illustrates it in a very dark way.
@@ianfortier6796 Pink gives voice to the warring emotions within, in one instant begging his wife to not “say it’s the end of the road”, then seconds later threatening to “beat [her] to a pulp on a Saturday night.” It’s something of a shock for the audience to hear the largely submissive Pink not only conjure up brutal images of physical abuse but also relish in the thought of meting them on his wife. For many, the question then arises as to whether Pink is actually physically abusive to his wife? Are these random beatings that he sings about true? In his interview with Roger Waters, interviewer Tommy Vance aptly (and alliteratively) described Pink as wallowing in the “depths…of deprived depravity” at this point in the album, a mental state one should keep in mind before interpreting the lyrics a bit too literally. Though the listener is invited to draw her or his own conclusions, it’s doubtful that the beatings Pink sings of are real. Rather, it seems they are meant to reflect Pink’s mental state as he puts the final touches to his wall, painting a portrait of a man at his breaking point licking his wounds, so to speak, by fantasizing revenge for being cuckolded and left alone in what he sees a cruel world.
@@Grithron2 Pink gives voice to the warring emotions within, in one instant begging his wife to not “say it’s the end of the road”, then seconds later threatening to “beat [her] to a pulp on a Saturday night.” It’s something of a shock for the audience to hear the largely submissive Pink not only conjure up brutal images of physical abuse but also relish in the thought of meting them on his wife. For many, the question then arises as to whether Pink is actually physically abusive to his wife? Are these random beatings that he sings about true? In his interview with Roger Waters, interviewer Tommy Vance aptly (and alliteratively) described Pink as wallowing in the “depths…of deprived depravity” at this point in the album, a mental state one should keep in mind before interpreting the lyrics a bit too literally. Though the listener is invited to draw her or his own conclusions, it’s doubtful that the beatings Pink sings of are real. Rather, it seems they are meant to reflect Pink’s mental state as he puts the final touches to his wall, painting a portrait of a man at his breaking point licking his wounds, so to speak, by fantasizing revenge for being cuckolded and left alone in what he sees a cruel world.
props to Kameron for knowing his stuff
Meddle is my favourite Pink Floyd album
“The blitz” one of the most terrifying moments in history for some people lol
He said “claw your way through this disguise.” This album was definitely part of the 80’s anxiety road. The “blitz” was the numbing of England during world war 2. He told you his father died in the very first song. “Daddy’s flown across the ocean. Leaving just a memory.”
I remember in 7th grade, last day of school before summer and the school bus driver was blasting this on the school bus. Of course, this song isn't really anti-education. It's speaking out against rigid conformity and stifling creativity and individuality. But to us kids, it was just a big middle finger to the school!
I want to add a few details about the song Run LIke Hell. The chanting is sometimes Pink Floyd and sometimes Hammer, each represent different political wings. Also, Run Like Hell includes a book reference from Lord of The Flies, a book that is meant to explain how tyranism and dictatorship fails among democracies, which is what happened in the song itself. In the song it says "as the conch shell shatters" the conch shell is a major sign of democracy in the book, and it physically broke, breaking down the democracy of the book. Pink floyd used the reference to portray the end of Pink's democracy and the start of the new regime.
It is strongly connected with nazism as one of the lyrics also quote "theyre gonna send you back to your mother in a cardboard box" something that nazis had done to jewish people prior to ww2. Of course pink floyd is not a nazi band, they are rather explaining the dangers of politics
I love the begining of goodbye blue sky with young pink saying "look mom theres an airplane in the sky". From an innocent childs eye its just a plane but for the mom its a scar.
Roger did not just quit the band..... After the final cut... no one wanted to work together anymore.... They all decided that Pink Floyd was finished.... The others were super pissed that Roger had done a solo album even tho each of them had done at least one and this was Rogers first solo... David was making his 3rd solo album but the record company didnt want it.,... they told him they wanted Pink Floyd... so he got with Bob Ezrin and they put together a bacn of studio musicians and Nick Mason.... and made a record that sounded like Pink Floyd... so they went on tour hired Rick Wright to be there... and called themselves Pink Floyd and played hours of Roger Waters songs...
Not gonna lie: The Wall double album is one of the best things i've ever listened to and despite me hating almost every Musical movie, Pink Floyd's The Wall movie is a must watch experience!
I am only 19 minutes in but just had to pause the video to say I love this. I first listened to this album in the 90s - right around your age I suspect. Listened kind of like you are now (in the video, comfortable, on headphones with a friend). Complete with allergy sniffs hahahaha. This album changed my life. This album was the first time I truly experienced transcendence and ego loss into both dark and light. Utterly transportive. No psychedelics at the time - just allergy sniffs. OK ... I will unpause now and keep going. Thank you guys for this. In the words of The Final Cut ... "memories come rushing up to meet me now ..." 🙏
Good start guys. Many of us like to pump up the sound to hear the music. Please adjust your sound levels so your voices don't blow our eardrums when you speak.
I'd recommend you check out "metropolis pt.2: scenes from a memory." The part one is a song that you don't have to listen to before it. It is a great album, and it's also a story album
11:30 and i might add, the guy giving the description of the wall is so on point. that was quite possibly one of thee best descriptions of the wall ever. well done!! :D :D
Best rock opera ever, best concept album ever. The album that affected me the most, I was obsessed with this album when I was in my late teens in 1994.
Thankyou for reacting to one of my most favorite albums of all time. Much respect!
Kameron is very much correct. The Dark Side of the Moon was peak Floyd because it was a collaboration between all 4 members. Wish You Were Here is also pretty good because all 4 members contributed, but it was starting to veer towards Roger and less so but still verring toward David Gilmour. Animals was the first album where Roger started to take most of the creative control, and he is credited on all 5 songs on the album. You may remember how Animals was 3 massive songs with the two "Pigs on the Wing" tracks sandwiching them. Well, back in the day, it did not matter how long a song was, it still gave the same cut of revenue to the songwriter from album sales as every other song. So, according to percentages, "Pigs on the Wing" parts 1 and 2 are worth 40% of the revenue. Some claim that Roger forced these two songs onto Animals for precisely this reason.
There is only one song on Animals that another member of Pink Floyd has credit on. That song is Dogs, the longest track on the album, and David Gilmour is given credit. He pretty much wrote the song, but because of Roger's all-important lyrics, Roger also gets 50% of the cut. Every other song only Roger is given credit, even though Rick Wright and David Gilmour (and to a lesser extent Nick Mason) all contributed in the songwriting of the other tracks. I think you can now understand why many members of Pink Floyd have not only begun to hate Roger Waters by The Wall, but also feel inadequate in their own songwriting skills because of how much Roger claims Pink Floyd is "his", even though the other members of Pink Floyd are legendary songwriters in their own right. Just look at The Division Bell, the album that was made without Roger Waters after he left. Is it as good as the "Big Four"? No. Roger is still an incredible songwriter. But does it showcase that the other bandmembers are talented too? Yes, with one song on the album even winning a grammy! I would not trust the credits on The Wall either.
Anyway, sorry for the essay, hope you enjoyed!
you’ll find my favorite axe= you’ll find my favorite guitar
"outside the wall" sums up the story by saying no matter how bad things are,and how removed from the world someone becomes, "the ones who really love you" have it worse by trying to help you. "after all, it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall".
I love how the emotions are just dragged up and down continuously through the album, and with the movie addin some amazing imager, it really does rock to the core
This album is partly about Roger and his life and partly about Syd Barrett their original singer and friend who had mental struggles and shut himself off from the world and leaving the band never seeing them again. You should deffo do a brief history of Syd Barrett. There's some good videos on here that you can react too.
if you like this album style in which each song flows into the next and follows the life and story of a particular character, then I absolutely recommend Joe's Garage by Frank Zappa.
At the time there was a bunch of controversy with the government trying to censor and ban certain aspects of music, and as a 'nah fuck you', frank made an album containing all the things they were trying to censor, so its a very graphic album you could say, but his guitar playing speaks for itself!
Legendary album, legendary memories driving early 80's with my dad playing the tapes in the car. Well done lads, thanks
The phone call but it's actually Pink's wife cheating. It comes before What Shall We Do Now (Empty Spaces) in the movie.
*Comfortably Numb* always gets everyone the first time 😁
For the slower songs, *Mother* can't be beat.
Roger Waters and a lot of guests performed the whole album in Berlin in 1990, a few months after the Berlin Wall came down. Can you imagine how cathartic that was?
Gotta give a try to their first album, The Piper at the Gates of Dawn!
And maybe The Wall sequel: The Final Cut
Phenomenal album. I listened to this for the first time a few months back and was absolutely floored
Maybe some Led Zeppelin next? Any of their first six albums is a good pick, but my favourite would be Led Zeppelin II. Great work guys!
You need to dig into the historical context in Britain in the 70's. There were a rise of neo fascist. In fact in the song, the words have been pronounced in REAL LIFE by Eric Clapton himself (about the colored to go back home !!). It's real life retell, Pink is on the "personal side" Roger & Roger (Barret & Waters). But it's also on a symbolic level "The Rock Star", "The Idol"... The crazy one moving crowds behind him while he's himself totally lost. It's not strictly a bio, Roger Waters is far more brilliant than that. Some specific takes (the death of his father) is an alibi in story telling, to talk about a more general problems of "children home alone". He was talking politics. Vera Lynn was a singer in the WWII, her most famous song was about "We'll meet again". A false promise from the propaganda of war.
Also, R.Waters have no problem with his mother and always praise her. The mother in the Wall is symbolic. Of course you can pick "real life" stuff in the story, but forget it. Pink is "nobody", Pink is a Rock Star becoming crazy and fascist.
That was the context of 70's. Waters hates fascists. He created a character where "in this universe" he becomes fascist because he's lost and self centered.
Interestingly, the lyrics to Another Brick in the Wall, pt. 2 meant one thing when it was written, but today, at least in the U.S., it can have an entirely different meaning. At least, the problems it's referring to are coming from the opposite side.
With Pink Floyd, I'm a 70s kid as I was born 1971, my favorites are 1: Wish You Were Here, 2: The Wall, 3: Dark side of the moon.
As a musician and a huge Pink Anderson-Floyd Council fan, I love what you guys are doing. Very entertaining. Cheers from Nova Scotia, Canada...Actually now getting further in I enjoyed the musician dude. Breaking up the album in sniipets I can't watch or handle..
The worms are a metaphor for mental illness one can't come back from.
1982 first year high school in Mew Zealand - boom Pink Floyd blew my young mind. At 55 it still does
I'm 40ish.
I can easily draw neat lines in my life that divide it as before and after a certain event; usually those lines are significant events, like my parents divorce, meeting my gf (my wife, now), starting to make music, becoming a father and such.
But 4 of these lines are actually set by my first interaction with what you can call "Art works" and these are, in chronological order:
-watching "Forrest Gump" (first time at the cinema);
-watching "Jurassic Park";
-hearing "The Wall" by Pink Floyd;
-reading "The Waste Land" by Thomas Stern Eliot.
Just to express how important this album has been in my life.
Love the fact that you went through it properly aware and with proper preparation about its content; kudos to Kameron! ❤