Lahaina FIRE - What REALLY Caused the Fire ???
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- What Really Started the Lahaina Fire? The Maui Fire Department and the ATF just released their Origin and Cause Report. This video shares a condensed version of the press conference and photos from the Report. I'll also share some of my thoughts on the cause of the Lahaina Fire as someone who was in Lahaina the day of the fire.
Link to Full Lahaina Fire Origin and Cause Report:
www.mauicounty...
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Thank you for being the voice of reason from the beginning!
Jesse, thank you for sharing the report. I believe it was accurate. I appreciate all the updates that you’ve shown us. I’m looking forward to seeing the one of the first house that I hear was built. Mahalo!
Omygosh you're killing me Lizard Man! People will always say what they are going to say. There are always going to be conspiracy theories for almost everything that happens.
You are doing a fantastic service by all of your videos, please keep them coming! We appreciate each and every one of them.
Jesse, I laughed that someone called you a lizard man. I enjoy every video you post. My husband and I have visited Maui 35 times. It’s our happy place. Sadly, he died last December and I probably can’t ever come back. Too many memories. And I don’t think I can handle seeing Lahaina Town and what’s left of the Banyan tree. I’m almost 80, so I’ve lived and loved a good life. I miss Maui and want to thank you for keeping it alive for me.
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Thank you for your work informing everyone. Very much appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos!
Thank you for your continued report
Across the country, power lines have started so many catastrophic fires. It is seriously time to bury power lines everywhere.
Aloha Jesse. We were in Kapalua last year for Thanksgiving to do our part for the local economy. No argument on the down power lines starting the fire. The problem is the overgrowth of vegetation on that slope. Easy solution is bring in a boatload of goats and then you can manage and maintain the slope. Well worth the investment for the future of Lahaina. Mahalo bro
As a lizard man myself, gut feeling is a powerline initiated fire. Thanks for sharing!
Jesse, I am right there with you. I always thought from the beginning that this started with downed power lines and high winds. I lived in CA and this was a common cause of many of our fires. Just so unfortunate that a flying ember took lodge in nearby brush and hid itself to rekindle the fire later. I will remember for the rest of my life exactly where I was at the time I viewed the first reports. I remember telling my husband that Lahaina was gone--in total disbelief as to what I saw. I had been there just 5 months before. I still have tears every time I remember. Please keep us informed as to the recovery process. Lahaina will rise somehow from the ashes and I will be back to visit.
Nearly exactly the same. I woke up that morning and saw video of what I knew was the Pioneer Hotel, where my husband and I had brunch on the morning of our anniversary 6 weeks prior. I called him at work and through tears told him "I think Lahaina is completely gone."
Oh and also Californian (LA) and also immediately suspected powerlines. Memories of Paradise and Thomas Fires hold strong.
I’ve watched all your videos. Thank you for all your work to keep us updated. I feel the downed lines, the dry vegetation, and the horrific winds all combined to create this devastating situation. I look forward to your next video.
I took video of exactly that! Downed lines, dry grass and horrific winds
Thank you Jesse, for all the updates that you have done and for keeping those of us who care about what is going on with Lahaina informed. I think you are doing an awesome job! I'm sorry that you have been subjected to stupid name calling. It just goes to show the immaturity of people and that is very sad. I look forward to all of your updates, because you are the only one who is giving us the correct information of what is really going on with the cleanup and rebuilding of Lahaina.🤙
Thank you for keeping us updated and, as another viewer just stated, (being the voice of reason from the beginning). Fondest Aloha, from Canada
I agree that the explanation seems the most plausible cause of the fire.
Thank you so much for posting this. Im so sorry you have received vitriol for your opinion. The sad part is that no matter what proof they show that it was an accident, idiots will insist it's a malicious act and there is nothing we can do except shut them down when they start.
Thank you again. I love your videos. You do a fabulous job.
The county (Maui), the State and Hawaiian Elec agreed to a $4B settlement. Expensive accident.
Thank you Jesse for all of your informative videos. Love Maui
Thank you for the update. Your work is awesome. And YES it was power lines that started the fire. The evidence is clear. I've worked in the power industry for 40 years. This was caused by insulator failure and arching power or downed power line. I am disappointed in the responses to you and the individuals who don't understand the physics and dynamics that caused the fire. I appreciate your patience and your videos. Thank you for bringing out the truth, and I hope you continue to provide updates. I support and laud your efforts!
We still cry for Lahaina. Continuous blessings from Kihei
Good job, glad you are standing your ground. What happened to your town is heartbreaking. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for your sane and level headed reporting! - from an empathetic human from Oregon who had only been to Lahaina once back in 1977. Maybe one day I will get to come back and hopefully see the area again. Appreciate the updates on the slow progress to rebuild. I hope the locals get the help they need… still tugs at my heartstrings, as all of these tragedies do.
"Occam's razor is a scientific and philosophical principle that states that the simplest explanation is usually the best one. It's also known as the principle of parsimony." And I believe the investigators' report.
We love what you are doing! i graduated from Lahainaluna High School in 1974. Grew up there...your videos have given me hope! Mahalo!
LOL, thanks Lizard man , not buying the conspiracy theory. I believe that sometimes no matter how hard one may try, sometimes it's not enough and very plausible that hidden embers fueled by excess wind made more fire and spread by the same wind. Just happened the conditions were right for this to happen and nothing more. Accidental! Thank you for taking the time to edit the long meeting and bring us another great video.
Hey Jesse! We are fellow neighbors in Kahoma village and were also there for the fires. Our take on what happened is that the fire chief took the crew off the “contained” fire too soon. They claim, now, that it was out, but we heard it was only contained when the trucks left the scene. We feel that the high winds could have kicked up anything at anytime that day, and that if one truck was left behind, just in case, Lahaina would still be standing. Thank you for your drone footage and updates!
Thank you for your reporting efforts! I appreciate the updates. I believe the report is an accurate account of why the fire started. Mahalo!
I appreciate your channel so much. I unsubscribed from other sites when they veered into conspiracies.
Thanks for the updates and the official report. Unfortunately in this internet age wacko conspiracies get a lot more coverage and are given more credence than they deserve. I don’t know exactly what theories you have been subjected to but as you said most of the time the simplest explanations are the hardest for some people to accept. My question is with this post event report are there also recommendations for subterranean power lines and other methods to lessen the possibility of any reoccurrence. The winds will definitely not go away. That is not a theory.
Well the county / state / utility settled a $4B lawsuit in Aug. - without a plan for pmt. HA Elec indicated. Minor detail ! - given the funding need for power line upgrades …
I've experienced what high winds can do during a fire. Blue River, Oregon 2020... No control, no matter how many firefighters were helping💙 it went 30 miles overnight, it was devastating! But some homes in the path survived in tact!! No conspiracy, just real life these days...
Thank you for all the updates. I'm sorry you had to do this at the expense of negativity. Keyboard warriors make it easy to hide behind the curtain without any repercussions.
Agree with You! And, the report from the Fire Department appear accurate. The big mistake? Not Ordering ALL POWER IN THE LINES TO BE SHUT OFF!
Another UTuber explained that same cause for the fire within hours of it. It doesn't take a genius or a board of experts to determine that wind plus fuel plus spark equals fire. Culpability is the real issue. Did the power company recognize the danger in reenergizing the line? Seems they didn't. The fire department did its best to put it out. But once it rekindled, why wasn't "emergency management" sounding sirens, and organizing a response, ie. evacuation. Why was the police department left out of the loop and blocking exit routes? It also appears the local government was aware of the potential for a catastrophic fire to occur given the conditions (high wind, dry grass, failure of the water pumps due to lack of power). No planning, no preparations, lack of a timely response, and no leadership in a crisis all contributed to this disaster.
You have provided a wonderful service. .I've followed you from day one and am greatly appreciative .I will be visiting Maui in January. Can't wait to be among the wonderful people of Maui Mahalo , ALOHA!!!!!!!!
Great job Jesse, we just got back from our 2nd trip to Maui this year(36 trips overall over the past 30+ years). We have met so many people this year that have endured so much and have openly shared their experiences. We have also witnessed some of the locals that don’t want any tourist there which I try to understand but feel everyone must move forward. The fire in my opinion was part of a “perfect storm”…..extreme wind, mismanagement of natural resources(water and non native grasses) and wooden power poles. As you know, wildfires have been an issue for the past 30 years and I still remember when the hills above Lahaina were green and surfing by the harbor when the smoke stack still burned the leftover sugar cane and ash feel everywhere. I hope the best for Maui and everyone moves forward and the STR issues are solved. You are no Lizzard Man!
Thanks, Jesse, I just wish the fire professionals had explained why blue things did not burn and why aluminum melted, and why people were funnel to return back into Lahaina rather than being let out of the town. There must be some explanation for all that which would dispel conspiracies.
Thank you so much for the updates. With all the charities and donations, I wonder how the monies are distributed to the residents of Lahaina.
I agree. Fire was caused by a combination of down electrical lines and high winds. Personally, I believe the fire department should have completed two or three inspections to make sure all ambers were off.
Again, great video. Thanks for the updates!
As a native of Southern California and very experienced with high wind driven fires, curious things like one house burning and the next door neighbor being completely fine does happen. The extremely long period taken to complete this report is unacceptable. The tone of the assistant fire chief is unacceptable. He is not apologetic for the rekindling of the fire. He almost is accusing people of being ungrateful. I want someone to be held accountable for the withholding of resources based on DEI standards. That cost lives and property. Lastly, thank you, Jesse for all of your hard work and tolerance of ridiculous things people say. Trolls will troll. Thank you!
Aloha Jesse. I for one, much appreciated all the work you provided us to keep us informed of Lahaina aftermath and status of the recovery. Unfortunately, we live in a time with so much misinformation and distrust , many have come to question anything that authorities will say. Regarding the negative comments against you, it’s the times we live and if someone has a different opinion than theirs, you are the person they quickly attack. It’s sad! Again, I totally appreciate the information you provide. Keep up the great work. Aloha, Jayson
Mahalo Nui Loa Jesse - your video updates have been really helpful. Still holding all of you in my heart💜💜💜💜
Thank you sir for sharing this enlightening meeting of the local authorities! I too believe the theory that the extreme wind velocity aided this disastrous event. I live in Southern California where we have what is called “Santa Ana Winds”, sometimes reaching very similar velocity’s. With our relatively low humidity plus dry brush, it is a recipe for disasters like you had on Maui. On a personal note, Captain Giesea is a family friend who is widely known as a brilliant and genius level leader! His comments rang true because he was raised in Southern California and experienced those “Santa Ana Winds” on a personal level.
Totally agree with you. Thanks for the updates and the truth.
Thanks Jesse-the clarity was needed. Maui is undefeated let’s band together to help all the people and area however we can
Thank you. I appreciate all you've done for the beloved Lahaina Town. I first visited this wonderful place in 1971 and returned many times. To see it go up in flames, that night, broke my heart. Your coverage has brought hope for the restoration of this beautiful place.
I've wondered what it would take for the public to not respect firefighters. This! That ANGRY, defensive statement about how they, how NOBODY, could have possibly done any more to make sure that the morning fire was entirely extinguished is EXACTLY how one lowly Asst. Chief could destroy the goodwill firefighters universally have in this country! I say this as someone with many beloved firefighters in my family. BTW, any of that response would have worked with the preface "We wrongly thought that..." and humility in his voice. Maybe backend it with, "We will NEVER make such stupid assumptions again, because if there is one thing that MFD does is learn from their mistake!"
Thanks for the post, Jesse! You're doing great work for your community... you know, for a lizard guy.
Thank you for being honest and not repeating conspiracy theories.
What caused the fire is irrelevant from the point of view that although various official groups had gone to learn from California wildfires, they just “observed” these lessons and “learned no lessons”. Lessons like brush clearing under electrical lines, buried water cisterns, secondary evacuation routes, practicing evacuations, removal of flammable materials around individual houses, etc.
Fully agree with you, completely
My wife and I were in Lahaina about a week before the fire. Regardless of what caused the initial spark, the area between the highway and Lahaina was so dry that nothing was going to extinguish anything there once started! The grass was tall and bone-dry. Add to that the high winds, and close proximity of all the structures, and it was a tinder box. The flames could have been started by power lines, a cigarette, or even by the reflection from a broken piece of glass. Regardless, nothing was going to put it out before catastrophic damage was done.
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Finally someone that isn't spouting bogus conspiracy theories about so called space lasers.
What is happening to Lahaina now? Are they rebuilding? And if so, for whom? The people or developers?
Yes, they’ve started rebuilding. Insurance claims can be a long and drawn out process but people’s homes are already being rebuilt.
@@propagandhi7592 Great to hear!
I agree that the fire started from downed electric poles. However, the actions of police and fire in shutting off roads and not letting traffic move out of the dangerous zones was tragic and resulted in multiple deaths. As far as I know, nothing has been done to hold those people to account. I appreciate your calm, rational manner and also the videos you posted showing the clearing progress and hope you continue to do that. Thanks again for what you do.
There were downed electrical poles all over. Everything happened too fast for anyone to understand what was the thing to do. I was there that day and took lots of video.
The best definition of a conspiracy theory that I've heard is that it is a conclusion (for whatever reason) backed by select facts -- or none at all.
Jesse, thanks for this report. The cause being power lines doesn’t surprise me. Here in Colorado, we have had many fires large and small started the same way. One of the recent ones was the Marshall fire south of Boulder (Dec 30 ‘21) that destroyed almost 1000 structures. As with Lahaina, many blame the power company for not maintaining lines and keeping vegetation cleared.
Still so surreal. ACCURATE REPORT
I have been following you since the fire happened. I truly hope you are right about how the fire initially started. I am so sorry your area had to go through this tragedy but it shows the strength of the people who are bravely rebuilding their lives and homes. Blessings to all. Now, our prayers are widened to those dealing with the aftermath of Hurricane Helene. 🙏🙏
I support the ATF/MFD conclusion. Thanks for providing us with so much good info. 🤙🏼
The official explanation makes far more sense than the most normal conspiracy theory out there. I had also heard that downed utility lines were the cause of the fire, fanned into wildfire levels by the severe winds. This level of destruction may be unusual on the islands but it is becoming far too familiar on the mainland.
Yes, accurate report. Thank you, Jesse. Take care of yourself.❤
Thank you, Jesse, for this video. I'm with you, the origin of the fire outlined is accurate and plausible. I was glad I visited Lahaina in May 2023, ten weeks before the fire. I have followed what has happened since the fire and I am disappointed and yes, even disgusted by the conspiracy theories. But such is the social climate we live in these days. I pray our country can rise above this, just as I pray Lahaina will be rebuilt and rise again!
Believe in the downed wires and the winds, just as you always said. Can never believe in all the stories we read on the internet. We were in Lahaina shortly before the fire and feel so sorry for all of those affected by the fire. Here's hoping for a great return for Lahaina, and once it's ready for visitors we hope to return.
Thank you!!! We watch all your videos. I personally think the fire department did not extinguish the fire and they have a cute way of hiding it.
Were HECO Troubleman/line crews working on the downed line when the fire reignited? Also, how long do fire crews typically stay around after a brush fire is extinguished, especially when winds were forecasted?
You have always been the reasonable reporter. I guess it is a disability called sanity.
Agree with what was determined. Changing water sources and having dry vegetation and heavy winds, Along with Electricity poles versus below ground caused this. In 2018 i was there during another Storm and the fire was stopped just outside lahaina at the highway.
I think the report was correct and respect your opinion. I would then be interested to know why the lines were re-energized and if it was known there was possible damage to certain poles/lines. Again thanks for your updates, as just a visitor to Lahania a few times over the years, I don't have anything in the game but I do grieve for the areas we loved to visit that will never be again.
I completely believe the fire was an act of nature, wind and downed power lines. My concern is how the exit routes were handled.... or rather mis-handled.
Good job Jesse , praying that this will not happen again. The brush is still the same unmaintained, wires are still above ground and wind will pick up here and there...offering no solution or blame to how the county handled everything will not bring closure or peace. Praying for Maui-the entire island❤ and the people there 🙏
Power lines and poor decisions were the cause. The death count would have been half if the Police had not blocked off Front St at booth ends and allowed people to go north and south on WAINEE ST. No sirens, and no evacuation orders by phone or by the police. I had 5 minutes to escape and lost virtually everything I owned.
Thank you for sharing this Jesse. Something about this doesn't ring accurate with me.
My understanding is that these old wooden power poles were brought up over the years as being sub standard and would not hold up to hurricane force winds, add in the invasive dry brush/grass well it's not hard to figure out the power companies have to be responsible for this disaster. Huge mistakes were made, and continue to be made, by the local government in the aftermath but give up on thinking this was intentionally caused to allow big corporations to come in and build a Lahaina Resort world. More Drone updates please!
Jesse, I believe that you were telling the truth. Downed power lines…..and the intense winds. It was not caused by anyone intentionally! I am sorry for the people of Lahaina and wished that it never happened.
Blaming the fire on “sparks from a utility switch closure” does not add up. Even if the switch arced during closure, and the arc produced some molten metal “sparks” - those sparks cool off before they get to the ground 25 to 50 feet below the wires. If someone wanted to prove this hypothesis to me, they would have to show me the remains of the switch contacts themselves, which the fire would have left intact.
As a Californian who knows that the power companies here have also caused death and destruction *by their own admission* by failing to maintain infrastructure, I fully believe Hawaii Electric bears the responsibility for the fire. And I know they'll skate, just as Edison and PG&E have here. Hell, the state here allowed them to pass the cost of their liability onto the customers.
damn! I had lizard men with lazers on my bingo card :(
Thank you for consistent and factual videos. We truly appreciate it. But I will forever think you as the Lizard Man now! 😂
Jesse, you are the voice of sanity. Just curious, what was the percentage of people with conspiracy theories, i hope it was the minority!
Explain homes leveled but trees and plastics untouched. Just like paradise ca?!
You need to take a course in fire dynamics or even just talk to a fire expert to understand why some things burned and others didn't. Also, thousands of trees and plants in Lahaina did burn. Conspiracy theorists are "cherry picking" the pictures of Lahaina to "prove" their theories.
Keep up the good work Jesse! I'm convinced that no matter how much evidence you show certain people, they will never believe the truth when a radical conspiracy theory will substitute. I actually feel sad for those who go down conspiracy theory Rabbit holes, as it's truly detrimental to their lives and their relationships in the long run. I personally know of a couple of people who have bought in to some very radical theories. One of them ended up in the hospital because of her distrust of traditional (and proven) medical treatments of diabetes. She nearly died as a result, and is still recovering.
Thank you for sharing what you have learned about what started the fire. Although I don't think that is where the conspiracy begins. We all agree where and when the fire started. It's the way it burned, water being turned off, roads being blocked, obvious fire coming out of the sewer drains and of course nothing blue burned. But miraculously the newest housing division did not burn. The fire went around them.
But we do all agree that in the beginning the fires were started by Blackrock electric turning on downed power lines. That wasn't an accident. And the blocking of exits wasn't an accident either.
All this most likely wasn't pre planned or a conspiracy to burn down Lahina but it also wasn't an accident. Considering so many things could have prevented the fire from happening at all.
Lots of newer homes burnt.
@@chelomaui4615 There is a whole housing addition that did not burn on front street. The fire came down the hill and parted around this block. And the cannery mall had no fire. But on both sides devastation. Watch his driving front street video.
Thank you Terry for this video. I fully believe that the assessment was correct. SSSSo my fellow lizard man. Isssss it time to blow town becaussss our cover is blown?
Thank you.... L/M. Jesse
You are correct, I believe it was caused by winds and downed power lines.
Like paradise calif the old wooden no fire breaks and old landscape burns up with a big wind ,concrete tile roofs would not have burned,build it back right and you will never have to worry about fire again ,sorry so many lost so much very sad times some folks will never recover ,
Their lil theory doesn't explain why all the blue stuff didn't burn or how a tour submarine melted in the harbor
Like the pic of two blue rooves in the background of the speakers at 2:15. Funny choice of background.
Yes!!! Or how the fire parted and went around the new high dollar housing builds but managed to burn the low rent apartments in the middle of it while not burning any of the houses🤔an leaving 1 store, Safeway, untouched.
@@cynthiawashburn771 What area of high dollar housing are you referring to?
A lot of houses without "BLUE" roofs didn't burn either, blessing. How do you explain that? The BLUE conspiracy theory makes no sense either. Do you know what color were all the cars that burn? Hard to tell because they are burned but probably they were BLUE ones too.
Jesse.. The electricity was OFF and stayed off when you got up in the morning, Correct?
I wasn’t awake at 6:30am that day. Regardless of whether or not the power was on at my house, I have seen videos of down power lines sparking from that morning.
@@JesseGWald Videos huh, you mean 1 video? Remember it was OFF, many witness accounts said that the electricity was off when they got up in the morning. Around 4:30am one witness said, cause his fans all shut off which woke him up....
@@alltheworldsastage777 Perhaps it was one video that was shared on several platforms. I just did a search for it now and it was easy to find. Also, I don't think it is correct to assume that because the power was out at a few (or even many) homes, that the grid was turned off. It's likely people lost power due to the many down power lines which could have still been energized.
@@JesseGWald Power was Off everywhere, many many witness accounts made that point clear when they said in interviews that the power was off when they woke up that morning..If you think they were energized many many hours later so be, but its you thats the one assuming it to be so. Let me repeat again, power was off before 5am and stayed off , period...
@alltheworldsastage777 I was in the Cannery Mall parking lot, in a somewhat broken Jeep, when the fire started in the afternoon and the mall still had power at that time. When we left that parking lot, many new hydro lines had toppled and one car was sitting underneath downed lines on the road. The guy was not allowed to get out so I don't think anyone was sure that all hydro was off at that point!
Thanks Lizard Man! You da Man😁👍
I’m pretty sure everyone has heard about the number of disastrous fires that have been started by downed power lines in California. I have no trouble believing this too was the cause of this tragedy‼️
I've had to evacuate twice this summer because a tractor started a grass fire, Red Hill Fire, and a drunk driver started the Borel Fire here in Southern California. Our place is ok but I can say most fires in California are human caused. But some of our biggest fires like the Paradise Fire were power lines. It's very scary when we get a strong wind during fire season!
Why is the atf involved in this?
maybe the electric lines should be under earth in areas prone to storms?
Get ready for Maui utility rates to double to pay for the civil suit...'er incompetence -
Please link the report to this video
The report is linked in the description.
I swear you made comments about the oddity of burned cars outside the fire perimeter - no ?
Nope not me. I know exactly what you are talking about... that was a different UA-cam Channel.
@@JesseGWald Eric West. One car was just off the bypass - another above the Emerald Biz District …
Eric West is the General of Conspiracy theories, L , 😂, don't listen to that guy.
Nicely done. Thank you for all your efforts !!!!! R.B. Timms DDS, COL USAR RET
Thanks for the update. I agree that it was probably an accident caused by down power lines and the high winds. Usually the straightforward simplest answers are the correct answers.
The cause is irrelevant. The response is criminal -
The fire was an accident caused by broken wires and high winds.
you should try doing a video without the teleprompter, it would be more natural
We had no electricity around 6 AM
We didn't have any electricity 6AM No Alarm went off and more 😢😢😢😢
@@ritahernandez7523. That was right below the solar panels and a power substation. My son said they turned it back on for a little bit. My generator near Front Street ran the entire time. So different areas had different experiences
Such bullxxxt.Maybe you were there that day..I was there,lizard man(heehee) the real issue was why weren't they fighting it all nite long I want to know why they didn't fight it with water from 5pm to 5am .I don't know if they decided to let it burn or what,but I DO find it interesting that no one seems to talk about That.Why,why why did they just let the 2nd fire keep burning.They could've stopped it with water.Or at least keep it down .I also want to know why none of us could go to our homes for 4months.They completely cleaned everything out of my apartment.Yet there were very little burn marks They won't really help most of us who had apartments.They refuse to tell us what's going to happen to our places.Except Front St Apartments.Theyre just tlaking about that now.But they don't say whether people that were living there will get 1st choice I CAN tell you,as a Weinberg apt.dweller,I am disabled,65,and this has destroyed my life!! I'll still have to wait another year before I even see any $ from lawsuit.I don't know how much,and I know other seniors and folks in just as bad condition.Mahalo for listening. T King
Ventura is a really good local boy my kids grew up with… please stop blaming him
I share your theory and would include the super tall grass on the hill. We were there in February 2023 and commented that the fields needed to be mowed as they were a disaster waiting to happen. We were surprised the government hadn’t addressed the issue with the landowners.
I read somewhere that the land containing the dry invasive grass is owned by the state and the local school district. It would have been better had they maintained the land instead of letting it become a fire hazard. Any truth to the land story??
They are all in the club
and where not in it