Hidden History - The Forgotten and Historic Beale's Cut on the Newhall Pass

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  • @MikesGarage-zj7vf
    @MikesGarage-zj7vf 2 місяці тому +252

    I’m a retired truck driver. I loaded oil products out of that refinery back in the 80s. Very interesting video thanks for sharing

    • @wingdingdmetrius8025
      @wingdingdmetrius8025 2 місяці тому +4

      how did it look back in the day? :)

    • @MikesGarage-zj7vf
      @MikesGarage-zj7vf 2 місяці тому +20

      @@wingdingdmetrius8025 The fuel racks where are cool tankers loaded was fairly modern for the time. The rest of refinery was like going back in time very archaic.

    • @MikesGarage-zj7vf
      @MikesGarage-zj7vf 2 місяці тому +12

      @@wingdingdmetrius8025 Correction my phone placed the wrong word in there… Arco tankers.

    • @FORTYSIX_N2
      @FORTYSIX_N2 2 місяці тому +25

      I worked on that property in the early 2000's. We had a plan to completely remediate and mine it for sand and gravel and use the oil residuals to make asphalt . The hills were sprayed with tar to control erosion so that place was a mess. An oil tanker trailer was filled up but was mistakenly NOT welded from the inside and burst open spilling whatever all down that road. Believe it or not, Cabella's was talking about building a giant super store there with a nature preserve park on the lower north end. We met with the Cabella's people at city hall.. The timber and cables and well heads etc are presumably still lying around the north side of the property including the Clampitt Bros well and I always wondered if that's how Jed Clampett got his name even though the spelling is different. The Clampitt's were prominent, rich folks around there and involved in LA politics I think. Those giant 80m tanks have about 2ft of standing crude oil in them. Some of those concrete, underground vaults were "gas cracking" vaults to make gasoline. There are open drill holes in the ground about 8-10" in diameter that go about 1200 ft down and there is stinky yellow sulfur chunks around that came out of the ground. THE TOLLHOUSE foundation for Beal's Cut can still be identified down the trail to the north right next to the Fwy. I recognized the property near where this dude filmed in an episode of CSI.. We found a water well just open with no cover or markings, dropped a well pump down over 700 feet and pumped water out of it, lol. There was an old machine shop building down to north that was just a barely standing frame but it had a lot of nasty chemicals in the ground around it so we knocked it down with 980 loader and performed in ground chemical remediation around that area. That machine shop was from the oil drilling days not for the refinery. The refinery buildings that are now gone were nasty. People had been living in there and I think some terrible things were going on I won't mention. We eradicated a homeless encampment and had to kick these people off the property. Don't feel bad for them they were druggie weirdo's 100%. I enjoyed working there and we had big plans that never fully materialized unfortunately. I learned a lot more about the history of that area and there's ton!!

    • @wingdingdmetrius8025
      @wingdingdmetrius8025 2 місяці тому +4

      @@FORTYSIX_N2 damn, thanks. A comment for the library of Congress

  • @markmark2080
    @markmark2080 2 місяці тому +331

    Thanks for posting this historic tidbit. It's sad that such important sites of the past are left to decay. You've done a fantastic job of researching and presenting this information...

    • @Group_Anonymous
      @Group_Anonymous 2 місяці тому +5

      Humans won’t inhabit this earth forever

    • @climateanxiety2825
      @climateanxiety2825 2 місяці тому +18

      @@Group_Anonymous And the earth won't inhabit the universe forever. Your point?

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  2 місяці тому +9

      Thanks.

    • @loumontcalm3500
      @loumontcalm3500 2 місяці тому +16

      It was closed off because the brass plaques were stolen by metal thieves. The old parking area with the plaques became a spot for illegal trash dumping.
      Therefore, it was fenced off.

    • @karlfonner7589
      @karlfonner7589 2 місяці тому +6

      @@SidetrackAdventures Thanks for showing this. How about showing us where gold was found in southern California in the 1830s.

  • @af-np4pg
    @af-np4pg 2 місяці тому +42

    Once again, you've taken a bleak, barren and forgotten area and turned it into a vibrant historical gem.

  • @saxhorn1508
    @saxhorn1508 2 місяці тому +212

    Hey, I’m a Long Beach native. Don’t often comment on the tube. But I like what you do. It’s important.

    • @bobbykhan4699
      @bobbykhan4699 2 місяці тому +4

      @@saxhorn1508 Kool videos

    • @FORTYSIX_N2
      @FORTYSIX_N2 2 місяці тому +4

      I worked on that property in the early 2000's. We had a plan to completely remediate and mine it for sand and gravel and use the oil residuals to make asphalt . The hills were sprayed with tar to control erosion so that place was a mess. An oil tanker trailer was filled up but was mistakenly NOT welded from the inside and burst open spilling whatever all down that road. Believe it or not, Cabella's was talking about building a giant super store there with a nature preserve park on the lower north end. We met with the Cabella's people at city hall.. The timber and cables and well heads etc are presumably still lying around the north side of the property including the Clampitt Bros well and I always wondered if that's how Jed Clampett got his name even though the spelling is different. The Clampitt's were prominent, rich folks around there and involved in LA politics I think. Those giant 80m tanks have about 2ft of standing crude oil in them. Some of those concrete, underground vaults were "gas cracking" vaults to make gasoline. There are open drill holes in the ground about 8-10" in diameter that go about 1200 ft down and there is stinky yellow sulfur chunks around that came out of the ground. THE TOLLHOUSE foundation for Beal's Cut can still be identified down the trail to the north right next to the Fwy. I recognized the property near where this dude filmed in an episode of CSI.. We found a water well just open with no cover or markings, dropped a well pump down over 700 feet and pumped water out of it, lol. There was an old machine shop building down to north that was just a barely standing frame but it had a lot of nasty chemicals in the ground around it so we knocked it down with 980 loader and performed in ground chemical remediation around that area. That machine shop was from the oil drilling days not for the refinery. The refinery buildings that are now gone were nasty. People had been living in there and I think some terrible things were going on I won't mention. We eradicated a homeless encampment and had to kick these people off the property. Don't feel bad for them they were druggie weirdo's 100%. I enjoyed working there and we had big plans that never fully materialized unfortunately. I learned a lot more about the history of that area and there's ton!!

    • @BORN-to-Run
      @BORN-to-Run 2 місяці тому +2

      Especially if you're a native Californian, it's important.
      Several decades ago, Phil Howser did a series on "California's Gold."
      He wasn't very good at it, but what he was doing was very interesting.

  • @anonymustly7818
    @anonymustly7818 2 місяці тому +130

    Great job, Steve. I lived very close to the Cut from the mid '80's to '91 and remember the markers. It's also close to the hiding spot I used to duck into when (being young & stupid) attempting to evade the Sheriff for speeding on Sierra Highway. Got caught one day when the spot was blocked off and that Deputy was so excited he radioed other units excitedly yelling I caught her, I caught her. Apparently my Camaro & I had lost him a few times before.

    • @chadhaire1711
      @chadhaire1711 2 місяці тому +4

      LOL...what do you drive now

    • @truthseeker9454
      @truthseeker9454 2 місяці тому +5

      @@chadhaire1711 Now, she has a chauffer. 😄

    • @kamakaziozzie3038
      @kamakaziozzie3038 Місяць тому +1

      @@truthseeker9454driving Mrs Daisy?

    • @michaelbread5906
      @michaelbread5906 Місяць тому +1

      I wonder what was considered speeding back then. Now, people go 60mph on Sierra Hwy

    • @scrunchymacscruff1244
      @scrunchymacscruff1244 Місяць тому

      Newhall in the 50's and 60's was HOTRODS TO HELL. The youth's were a little restless.

  • @isomeme
    @isomeme 2 місяці тому +121

    I've lived in Southern California for 44 years, and I love history and exploring. Yet I keep learning about new places and stories at a steady pace. The world is big and marvelous beyond imagination. Thank you for bringing so much of it to us.

    • @jeffalbillar7625
      @jeffalbillar7625 2 місяці тому +5

      We moved here in '78 when I was 7.
      I am still discovering places here just like you

    • @kirkwilson5900
      @kirkwilson5900 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@jeffalbillar7625 California is huge and lots of dreams have come and gone up n down the whole state. So much to learn about, these adventure channels are awesome to watch!

  • @mixup98
    @mixup98 2 місяці тому +59

    Tom Mix was my great grandfather's cousin, and I thank you for the great recognition and shout out regarding Tom. I have several old Tom Mix movies (on VHS tape), and I always wondered where Beale's Cut was located and now I know. Awesome video and great channel.

    • @MrJerry160
      @MrJerry160 2 місяці тому +2

      love your channel, cool to see you here

    • @mixup98
      @mixup98 2 місяці тому +1

      @@MrJerry160 Thank you MrJerry 👍😎

    • @andrewwilliams9887
      @andrewwilliams9887 2 місяці тому +1

      Have you been to the Tom mix memorial ?

    • @mixup98
      @mixup98 2 місяці тому +2

      @@andrewwilliams9887 I have been to the memorial in Arizona where he died and I have also visited his grave site in Glendale, California. I also visited the car that he died in, a 1937 Cord, which used to be on display in Las Vegas many years ago.

    • @TRayTV
      @TRayTV 2 місяці тому +2

      It was my understanding that the Tommie's restaurant on Lyons Ave was named after him and they had pictures of him on the walls. I haven't been in there since the 80s.

  • @ARoyalLyon
    @ARoyalLyon 2 місяці тому +50

    Great episode! My Grandpa took us hiking up to that in the late 70s, and called it "Fremont Pass." I remember a lot of trash and graffiti, it seemed to be a place where high school kids would go to party. I visited it a couple of times in the late 80s as well. Apparently the Northridge quake filled it in quite a bit.
    My Dad told a tale of an adventure my Grandpa took him on near there in the 50s. They walked into the Newhall side of the train tunnel from the valley. There are alcoves along the way for people to duck into if a train comes. Well, about 50 feet in, there came a strong blast of wind from a train entering from the valley side, and they ran like mad back to the mouth of the tunnel and that was the end of that adventure.

    • @tsparky9196
      @tsparky9196 2 місяці тому

      We used to do the same in Chatsworth park train tunnel in the 70s.

  • @scottsmith6932
    @scottsmith6932 2 місяці тому +73

    Thank you, Steve for taking me on your sidetracked adventures. I am disabled and can’t get out of the house much and I really enjoy your programming

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  2 місяці тому +12

      I'm glad I can be of help.

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo 2 місяці тому +3

      Same...been 7 yrs now still havent accepted it.

  • @garthbutton699
    @garthbutton699 2 місяці тому +73

    Forgotten Gateway to Los Angeles pretty much says it all,thanks for another historical video🤗😎🤗😎

  • @williammetcalf7239
    @williammetcalf7239 2 місяці тому +64

    Oil percolated out of the ground in many places in the LA region, the La Brea tar pits being the most famous. Really good video.

    • @mmburgess11
      @mmburgess11 2 місяці тому +22

      Yes, oil is a natural product from the Earth, like most everything. We tend to forget that.

    • @ufc990
      @ufc990 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@mmburgess11Idk anyone who's forgotten that, it's very well known oil comes from wells. What planet are you from?

    • @johnmorgan7947
      @johnmorgan7947 Місяць тому

      So let's by OIL..
      FROM OUR ENIMIES.. bring poverty to our country..

    • @MeMeDaVinci
      @MeMeDaVinci Місяць тому

      ​​​@@ufc990 be kind. A lot of people don't realize or know the history oil plays on the growth of Southern California. Beverly Hills that's why people buy the houses with the oil rights and why they're so expensive. Also, people think Sutters Mill was the only place gold was initially found in CA. Gold was found in 1842 in SoCal. Look it up.

    • @aredditor4272
      @aredditor4272 Місяць тому

      There are some seeps along the 14 not far from there. They're always building new ways to catch the oil at the bottom of the cut. Anyone driving north can see it. Also not far from there is the "new" refinery.

  • @alonzowitt5931
    @alonzowitt5931 2 місяці тому +33

    You're a great narrator, you have the perfect voice for it. You're very pleasant to listen to!

  • @nesleinf
    @nesleinf 2 місяці тому +32

    Being guided through Americas first settlers history by you is so amazing! Well done Steve-
    Love from Denmark

    • @gus473
      @gus473 2 місяці тому

      🇩🇰 🇸🇪🇳🇴🇦🇽 😎✌️

  • @codtide
    @codtide 2 місяці тому +36

    My parents took us to Beale's Cut back in the mid 60's. We hiked the cut from the entrance with the plaques all the way through to the oil refinery that was still in operation. It's a shame the area has not been maintained.

  • @kathysmith4274
    @kathysmith4274 2 місяці тому +98

    The efforts you put into your videos is appreciated immensely. And the travel time by foot is grand. Love learning about old history and trying to imagine how many people trekked rough country. Which makes us where we are today. Thank you dearly for your thoughtfulness ❤ ❤

  • @SPak-rt2gb
    @SPak-rt2gb 2 місяці тому +47

    Thanks again for taking me back home to a place i used to go a long time ago. The place hasn't changed. Hiked over the mountains to Mission Peak down into the San Fernando Valley from there. Had a friend pick me up when I got down. Good Times.

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  2 місяці тому +11

      Its great that even in Los Angeles county there are a few places that haven't changed in awhile.

  • @AbnEngrDan
    @AbnEngrDan 2 місяці тому +187

    West Texas oil guy here. Some remediation will need to be done on the site of the old refinery. But you'd be surprised: what comes out of the ground, Nature reclaims. The oil being one. Probably the worst thing to impact from oil production is the salt water that comes with. It's re-injected normally, but spills of salt water tend to be worse than oil. Since there was plenty of vegetation, doesn't appear there were any major spills of salt water, as it kills everything around and near it. Prevents anything from growing in the future unless you till and treat it. FYI!

    • @dfirth224
      @dfirth224 2 місяці тому +9

      Whoever buys the property has to pay for cleanup. That's why no one will touch it.

    • @bwhog
      @bwhog 2 місяці тому +17

      Not forgetting La Brae. Early oil fields and refineries were built near surface pools and that's exactly what La Brae is. It wouldn't surprise me if what he saw was basically a well head that was ever-so-slowly hemorrhaging tar-like oil (heavy, sour crude is what abounds in California.) Combine this with the fact that the local vegetation doesn't seem to mind, and the sun doing a good job of solidifying it after a while, doesn't seem to be a significant problem. Just not ideal.

    • @jeffalbillar7625
      @jeffalbillar7625 2 місяці тому +4

      Thank you for your insight.

    • @joelmurphy7980
      @joelmurphy7980 2 місяці тому +8

      Rain may eventually wash the salt down into the ground, a wash and a rinse of the topsoil so to speak. But that can take decades in the desert, or perhaps never if the underlying soil is impermeable. There is a big wash north/northwest of Wink Tx. They built a dam and used it as a disposal for produced water as late as the early '80's, simply letting it soak into the ground. That practice had went on for 30 years and today you'd never know from looking. Conversely there are areas along the Pecos River near Grandfalls Tx where the soil has a high clay content and nothing will grow some 70 years later. Another West Texas oilpatch guy here.

    • @StephenClark-hk4mi
      @StephenClark-hk4mi 2 місяці тому +7

      ​@@dfirth224That's one of the main problems I see with California is they will allow a corporation to sell land that was destroyed. They allow corporations to file bankruptcy when they're supposed to be all about the environment. Because if they were all about the environment they would force the corporations to do clean up, they would put every single member of the business in jail until it was dealt with. And then you wouldn't have these problems because business men wouldn't want to go to jail so they would make sure they cleaned up their f****** mess.

  • @paulos9153
    @paulos9153 2 місяці тому +16

    It's sad to see it caved in as it is now. I lived in Newhall in the late 70's and made the short hike to Beale's Cut from Sierra Highway (the oil refinery was still operational then). It was cool to see it when it was still in good condition.
    You might consider doing a video on the original/actual "Ridge Route". I believe you can still drive the complete route from Castaic to Hwy 138 near Quail Lake and I5 (north of Pyramid Lake).

  • @johncopeland3826
    @johncopeland3826 2 місяці тому +19

    Years ago i read a book called ' Blue Highways' by William Trogdon . He toured the entire US in a campervan taking the back roads of America using the 'B ' roads on a map coloured blue ..thus the title . The people he met , the sights and sounds and experiences of his epic journey has stayed with me vividly 40 some years later and every time I see one of your highly educational videos , it brings the memories flooding back . I am a big ,big fan of Hidden History and the fantastic entertainment provided by you Steve ...best wishes from Scotland .🌍🌎🌏

    • @hoppes9658
      @hoppes9658 2 місяці тому +3

      Check out John Steinbeck Travels With Charlie.

    • @johncopeland3826
      @johncopeland3826 2 місяці тому +1

      @@hoppes9658 I'm there....

    • @nadenolam8368
      @nadenolam8368 2 місяці тому +2

      Read that same books in the 80s

    • @hoppes9658
      @hoppes9658 2 місяці тому +2

      @@johncopeland3826 Just remembered another,Peter Jenkins Walk Across America. Very good.

    • @travisadams4470
      @travisadams4470 2 місяці тому +3

      Thanks for recommending the book. I've found it online at my library. I'm going to check it out and read it

  • @davidparker3346
    @davidparker3346 2 місяці тому +19

    I lived SCV for 35 yrs. and have heard of this place. You have done the best documentary on this place. Just subscribed, love stuff like this. Great job.

  • @Purplexi
    @Purplexi 2 місяці тому +8

    Used to pass by there with my grandparents every Sunday. I worked there once on a television production and miss my now unaffordable LA. Thank you so much

  • @Stacks5497
    @Stacks5497 2 місяці тому +14

    I have lived in So. Cal for over 65 years and didn't know about this . Loved the video and thanks for the HISTORY .

    • @jayneneewing2369
      @jayneneewing2369 2 місяці тому +1

      I’m 75, and I was born here; but I have never heard of this place. Thank you for enlightening me.

  • @BrianMcCarthy-z9l
    @BrianMcCarthy-z9l 2 місяці тому +19

    Excellent as always. You're filling a good portion of the hole left by Huell Howser's passing more than a dozen years ago. This one gave me chills as I realized this must have been the route taken by my great grandparents when they moved from the Central Coast down to Los Angeles in the 1890's. This is now on my must see list for weekends. Thanks very much for the research and travel.
    I half expected aged derelicts left from the Charlie Manson Family to appear at the abandoned refinery.

  • @MichaelOsborne-v1o
    @MichaelOsborne-v1o 2 місяці тому +28

    Live about a mile from the cut, been there many times
    We even had a restaurant called Beales cut.
    Like your videos.

    • @caseyhansen4567
      @caseyhansen4567 2 місяці тому +2

      I used to go there too.i liked the food and the pictures on the wall of the cut

    • @dudeonbike800
      @dudeonbike800 2 місяці тому +2

      Beales Cut should have been their top beef dish!

    • @MichaelOsborne-v1o
      @MichaelOsborne-v1o 2 місяці тому +4

      @@dudeonbike800 that’s funny, i love reading comments, people are clever such as yourself.

    • @FORTYSIX_N2
      @FORTYSIX_N2 2 місяці тому +1

      The Tollhouse for Beal's Cut was located a ways down the trail to the north east right next to the 14. You can still see the foundation if you know what to look for.

    • @aredditor4272
      @aredditor4272 Місяць тому

      There's a current restaurant called Newhall Refinery in Santa Clarita. On Main St

  • @TimDeets-pog
    @TimDeets-pog 2 місяці тому +58

    Great video. We used to take Newhall Pass to visit my grandmother. We were all aware of Beale’s Cut growing up. We explored it after the 2/9/1971 Sylmar earthquake. The Cut had a lot of dirt and rock that had freshly fallen from the quake. The quake had knocked my grandmothers house off its foundation. It hit Newhall/Saugus, Sylmar and San Fernando very hard. Thanks again for your video!

    • @dfirth224
      @dfirth224 2 місяці тому +9

      I remember that quake. There was a VA hospital in Sylmar that was not very old but was completely wrecked. Before they tore it down they let Hollywood studios go in and film stock footage to use in future disaster movies.

    • @ARoyalLyon
      @ARoyalLyon 2 місяці тому +6

      That quake is one of my earliest memories. It woke me up way out in Torrance, and I still remember the dull thud of one of those christmas cookie tins falling from the top shelf of my Mom's closet. My Grandpa lived in Granada Hills barely a mile from Sylmar. His account was harrowing but a bit long for here. I remember neatly stacked cubes of bricks salvaged from the walls that toppled and got replaced by cinder blocks, that ended up completely grown over by shrubbery as I grew up.

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 2 місяці тому +4

      @@dfirth224didn’t it get used in a couple of episodes of Emergency! especially one about an earthquake?

    • @deanteasdale6252
      @deanteasdale6252 2 місяці тому +4

      I was 9 when that one hit, we lived in Palmdale

    • @TimDeets-pog
      @TimDeets-pog 2 місяці тому +4

      I thought the world was ending. My house was towards the top of a hill that had a view of the VA hospital and the brand new County hospital that the entire hospital fell on top of the collapsed first floor. The night of February 9th, all power was out in the area and the only light came from the emergency lights at the VA as the search through the rubble for survivors and body recovery continued with large cranes. Very surreal and emotional times with over 60 lives lost.

  • @sarahreesnes8540
    @sarahreesnes8540 2 місяці тому +28

    I remember when they blocked this off and took down the markers, so sad. My oldest kiddo did a report for school about Beale’s Cut, my other kids weren’t able to access the area. Thanks for the video!

    • @socksie2405
      @socksie2405 2 місяці тому +1

      Does anyone one remember what the markers said.

    • @vampov
      @vampov 2 місяці тому

      It was probably deemed racists somehow.

  • @bobbyharris2302
    @bobbyharris2302 2 місяці тому +31

    Thank you for posting such a wonderful video. Actually all your videos are amazing. I watch them all. Thank you for doing such an amazing job.

  • @life-rethought
    @life-rethought 2 місяці тому +13

    im 70 years old... my father took us here as children on a day trip.
    I remember wagon ruts going through it.

  • @stevenweiss2148
    @stevenweiss2148 2 місяці тому +26

    Thank you Steve for taking my mind off of Hurricane Milton

  • @boomtownrat5106
    @boomtownrat5106 2 місяці тому +13

    Before Beale and Pico cooperated with the cut, they found themselves on opposing sides during the US/Mexican War. Andres lead his Californio Lancers against a contingent of the Army of the West lead by Stephen Kearney at the battle of San Pasqual in 1846. Beale along with Kit Carson were scouts for the AofW. Excited for this episode since I grew up in the northeast region of the San Fernando Valley. We use to go crawling around that area.

    • @whatsup7253
      @whatsup7253 2 місяці тому +3

      I grew up there also, but I usually walked around the area. Saw some odd kids crawling around one time.

    • @boomtownrat5106
      @boomtownrat5106 2 місяці тому +5

      @@whatsup7253 That was probably me and the Girl Scout troop I was crawling around with .😆

    • @idt6359
      @idt6359 2 місяці тому

      You mean 1846?

  • @chrissteele7823
    @chrissteele7823 2 місяці тому +11

    You and your channel have gotten consistently better and more interesting each episode. Thank you so much for an entertaining and informative video.

  • @mindeloman
    @mindeloman 2 місяці тому +8

    I grew up in the oil fields of east Texas long after the oil boom was over. I'm VERY much aware of what exploring old oil refinery and containment sites looks and smells like. I could almost smell this video.

  • @stratavarious9334
    @stratavarious9334 2 місяці тому +17

    Thanks Steve! I’ve been curious about the history of Beale’s cut for a long time. Glad you were able to dig up so many details. And thanks for braving the weeds to get the southern view! Good stuff, as usual!

    • @dfirth224
      @dfirth224 2 місяці тому +2

      Huell Howser did an episode years ago on it in his PBS "California's Gold" program.

  • @BrawndoDrinker
    @BrawndoDrinker 2 місяці тому +15

    I grew up a couple miles away from this spot. My home was just off Sierra Hwy. The entire area has changed so much.

  • @briang70
    @briang70 2 місяці тому +14

    I grew up in the SFV then later the SCV. I took Sierra Highway many a time and passed the historical marker for Beale's Cut when there were still markers. If you know where to look and what to look for, you can spot Beale's Cut from Sierra Highway. It's a taste of home and childhood. Thanks for the video, Steve!!

  • @0159ralph
    @0159ralph 2 місяці тому +26

    I read and studied some traqic history about the Newhall incident. In 1970 four CHP Officer were gunned down during a car stop. This is a rugged area and has a historical significance some tragic. I don't know if you did a segment about the incident but it would be great to visit the sight and honor the fallen officers. Their sacrifice changed police tactics on car stops and is a big part of California's history.

    • @2815marionwood
      @2815marionwood 2 місяці тому +2

      There was a movie called the Onion Field about it. Not sure how accurate it is. There use to be a plaque, I remember seeing it, but that was in the late 70's

    • @MichaelOsborne-v1o
      @MichaelOsborne-v1o 2 місяці тому +1

      @@0159ralph was in 5th grade when that happened they made us hug the walls to evacuate we were in the range of the rifle fire. Very traumatic.

    • @MichaelOsborne-v1o
      @MichaelOsborne-v1o 2 місяці тому +1

      @@0159ralph there’s 4 pine trees planted for the officers. The place where they were killed is
      Right on the way to magic mountain. Hilton garden inn now. The trees are at the new CHP office off the 126. Great books out there and some UA-cam videos on it also. Right next to I5 now

    • @skyh
      @skyh 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@2815marionwoodThe Onion Field murders were in an onion field near Bakersfield not Newhall in 1963.

  • @joerich9636
    @joerich9636 2 місяці тому +13

    Thanks for the information on the Butterfield Overland Trail. I have hiked this trail along Lee's Creek in Arkansas and have followed it in places all across the country. I need to make it down and check this spot out. Great history.

  • @jorgeposadas1192
    @jorgeposadas1192 2 місяці тому +17

    Thankyou for reminding me, back in the early 80's, my mom, the adventurer took me up there, but I don't remember the refinery, most likely they had a way around it, hey! I was 10yrs old, but she took me all over Cali.

  • @Stranglewood
    @Stranglewood 2 місяці тому +19

    I took my 4 year old son up there, after showing him the footage of Tom Mix jumping Tony. He was super excited to crawl over some of the ruins there. Then I drove over to the giant "water tower", and actually pulled my SUV inside so we could shine the headlights on the interior. Out of the corner of my I saw a dark figure get up - prolly a homeless person or tagger - and I calmly made our exit. Freaked me out, tho.
    That car at the foot of the cut is "new" since I was there, though the camper isn't. There used to be other cars there too, so it looks like there was some cleanup in the last few years. Also, you can see the actual cuts in the "cut" where they dug it out. There are a couple visible in your video as you entered the cut.
    Tom Mix eventually built his own studio out there, incorporating the old ranch house where he lived. There are still a number of large filming locations in the area, including a 400 acre ranch recently on sale for a cool $35,000,000. Beautiful country out there...but yeah, that area in the old oil facility has bad vibes.

  • @juliogonzales5441
    @juliogonzales5441 2 місяці тому +26

    THANKS FOR THE HISTORY STEVE 😊

  • @DavidMartinez-cq3hx
    @DavidMartinez-cq3hx 2 місяці тому +30

    Keep up the awesome videos, since I live up here in San Jose I would never of known about Beales Cut. I have a soft spot for Southern California since my dad's family has been in Ventura since the 1860's and every time we go down there it feels like home, Keep up the great work!

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  2 місяці тому +5

      Thanks. I plan on it.

    • @jamespell8091
      @jamespell8091 2 місяці тому +3

      I'm 60 the last child. My parents moved there I was a sophomore. Came back to SJ in 2004. I'm a California kid you might say. So much fighting between "Nor Cal" and "So Cal" I appreciate both.

  • @johnwhitley2898
    @johnwhitley2898 2 місяці тому +6

    Thanks for this h8ke Steve! I've seen Beals cut, (like many of us) in multiple Westerns and until now, I had no idea this was an important piece of L.A./California history.....
    Another Historic Gem! Thanks for trooping through the weeds and snakes to show these!
    Next time I watch Stagecoach with friends, I can pause the CD and say "That's historic Beals Cut!"😁

  • @morganm9040
    @morganm9040 2 місяці тому +7

    Great work, Steve and thanks for all the research you put into your adventures.
    And yes, it does look unsettling in there.

  • @mcrichton46
    @mcrichton46 Місяць тому +2

    My grandfather drove the ridge route in the 1930s when his family moved from Texas to San Joaquin valley. Thanka for shining light on this HUGELY forgotten piece of road that was pivotal to connecting California, and I’ve had the pleasure of traversing the sections of the ridge route that are still passible, and sites like Kelly’s Halfway Inn, the Tumble Inn and Reservoir Peak have always faacinated me. It’s amazing such an important landmark goes so overlooked, and the views are beyond incredible.

  • @skydiverclassc2031
    @skydiverclassc2031 2 місяці тому +29

    Thank you once again for a nice sidetrack into history. Travellers back in that day didn't get out of there that easily. From Newhall, as I understand it, the stage went up one of the canyon routes to the desert, and then had to cut back toward Gorman and Fort Tejon. The Ridge Route cut miles and miles off that route. For those interested, a search of "Newhall Pass plaques" brings up photographs of at least one or two of the old plaques. You mentioned the highway US 6, too. From LA it traveled through this area, and on up the east side (currently US 395 ), turned right at Bishop, and went all the way (with different numbers occasionally) to Massachusetts.

    • @briang70
      @briang70 2 місяці тому +4

      The "canyon routes" you speak of is most likely Soledad Canyon which the 14 follows more or less to the Antelope Valley where you can then cut back west to Gorman. I think so as it is also the route of the first railroad connecting the SCV to the AV.

    • @dfirth224
      @dfirth224 2 місяці тому +3

      That original route is today's Highway 138, Pear Blossom highway. It uses the old Gorman Post Road, which happens to be the San Andreas Fault.

    • @EXROBOWIDOW
      @EXROBOWIDOW 2 місяці тому

      US 6 still runs most of its course. For a time it was the longest US highway, and ran from Cape Cod to Long Beach. It is named the Grand Army of the Republic Highway. In 1963, California asked that it end in Bishop, because the state wanted each highway to have just one number. The section from Bishop to Long Beach is the 395 and the 14, and whatever is now south of the 14. There's an article about it in the Federal Highway Administration website (FHWA.DOT.gov)

  • @kurtvanluven9351
    @kurtvanluven9351 2 місяці тому +20

    Loved this. you are correct, most of the silent Westerns were thrown away and not saved. My grandfather appeared in a few Tom Mix films as a boy. He pained himself and rode bareback, playing an Indian. He made $3 a day, good money then. I buy every one of them I can find, but probably will not be able to see gramps.

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  2 місяці тому +10

      It's a shame so many were lost.

    • @dfirth224
      @dfirth224 2 місяці тому +6

      Not all were thrown away. They were made on the old nitrate film and disintegrated before they could be copied to plastic film after 1952.

    • @xtbro78
      @xtbro78 2 місяці тому +1

      Oh, very interesting & I didn't know that. I wondered about their disappearance.

  • @whouse7
    @whouse7 2 місяці тому +3

    Steve, you do a great job with these videos! Perfect amount of light music, great camera work, and your wisdom! Much appreciated!!!!!

  • @russell-di8js
    @russell-di8js Місяць тому +2

    Crazy to think such an insignificant looking cut by todays standards played such an amazing role in the development of California. Keep bringing us history please Steve, you do it so well & seem so suited to the role.

  • @joshm3342
    @joshm3342 2 місяці тому +6

    There's also Vasquez Rocks, about 17 miles Northeast of Beale's Cut. Vasquez Rocks is where the campfire scene in Blazing Saddles was filmed.

    • @aredditor4272
      @aredditor4272 Місяць тому

      When Captain Kirk beamed down from the enterprise, it was usually to Vasquez Rocks. There's always been almost nonstop filming there - series, movies, music videos, and commercials.

  • @raymondpronovost5491
    @raymondpronovost5491 2 місяці тому +6

    Great post. Great old California story. Well done. Thank you.

  • @cattlerepairmancattlerepai9414
    @cattlerepairmancattlerepai9414 2 місяці тому +13

    I am nowhere near California, but find your well researched and well told stories very interesting to watch!

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  2 місяці тому +1

      Glad you like them!

    • @jamespell8091
      @jamespell8091 2 місяці тому

      California is a very interesting place. I've always been impoverished by immigration best I can tell so I've really never had a chance to really explore it

  • @davidnelson2951
    @davidnelson2951 2 місяці тому +7

    Thank you for being so diligent in gathering your information. Your videos are always wonderful to see.

  • @tech9803
    @tech9803 2 місяці тому +120

    My grandma grew up in Newhall. There was a railway but no real road to the San Fernando Valley at the time, so this was the travel path walking or by horse.
    She was in the crowd in 1913 when Mulholland opened the dam gates bringing Aqueduct water to LA.

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  2 місяці тому +17

      Oh wow, so yeah she would have definitely travelled this road.

    • @Porsche996driver
      @Porsche996driver 2 місяці тому +3

      Ok segue to another movie Chinatown with Uncle Jack lol.

    • @azgrapefruit
      @azgrapefruit 2 місяці тому +5

      “There it is, take it”! Spoken by William Mulholland at the dedication in 1913….

  • @Bettina4257
    @Bettina4257 2 місяці тому +1

    I´m from Germany and I just stumbled over this video, because I love the USA and I watch a lot of videos here on UA-cam.
    The explanation of the history of this lost place was very interesting. Bad to see the dirt, old tires and other rubbish all around this history place.
    What I really like is your clear voice - and the smooth and quiet background music. Thank you - I will explore more videos on your channel. Many greetings from Germany!

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  2 місяці тому

      Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Hopefully they will get it cleaned up at some point.

  • @fourbanger
    @fourbanger 2 місяці тому +7

    I was just in Truxton AZ and stood on the corner of Beales Wagon Road and Will Rogers highway
    Nice to see where I would have wound up if I had taken a detour
    Thank you for your vlog lesson...

  • @SharonDangle-sx6id
    @SharonDangle-sx6id Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for the history lesson on my beloved Newhall. I grew up in Newhall, i a loved every moment. I miss it every day and wish I could move back. Newhall is rich with history. I hope the residents appreciate where they live is special.

  • @jimgranden1244
    @jimgranden1244 2 місяці тому +19

    The amount of research and editing of these videos is so appreciated. Thank you Steve for all of your hard work and dedication!

  • @demcadman
    @demcadman 2 місяці тому +5

    Outstanding information. Loved the history. I used to travel the 14 to visit friends in the mid 1980s. Never knew this existed! Thank you.

  • @ericbrooking
    @ericbrooking 2 місяці тому +49

    That oil on the ground is not pollution it’s actually natural. Oil was discovered here as a natural oil spring. In January, 1865 Ramon Paria, a Mexican hunter, while hunting for deer he wounded, he followed a trail and found it dead near the spring. The quality of the oil in the spring attracted his attention. Per Wikipedia.

    • @gus473
      @gus473 2 місяці тому +4

      Plausible, because a lot of what we saw in Steve's video has that "raw asphalt" look. Probably the aroma too.

    • @climateanxiety2825
      @climateanxiety2825 2 місяці тому +3

      Yeah, I don't think that oil coming out of the pipe was a spring.

    • @albusmackinficker
      @albusmackinficker 2 місяці тому +16

      Not sure if the oil leaking from the pipe is natural or not, but there are natural oil seeps all over California. There are written records of this as far back as the 1700s.

    • @bobbys4327
      @bobbys4327 2 місяці тому +16

      That's the thing, people talk about this pollution and that pollution, but, they do not realize ( or know ) that at one time it was all in the ground to start with.

    • @leechjim8023
      @leechjim8023 2 місяці тому +3

      Is it related to the tar pits in LA?

  • @jeffsiegel4879
    @jeffsiegel4879 2 місяці тому +4

    Thanks! I live at the north end of the SF Valley these days and have been aware of Beale's Cut for years, but never have got over there. It's truly an important part of our state's history, as you pointed out. I'd like to organize a clean up of the area. And yes, I remember reading back in the 1990's that a landslide had closed/blocked it.

  • @victoriabernuth9728
    @victoriabernuth9728 2 місяці тому +4

    I so enjoy your videos. Every time it’s a learning experience.

  • @robert-trading-as-Bob69
    @robert-trading-as-Bob69 Місяць тому +1

    You have shown the old and the new, not hiding the good, the bad, and the ugly.
    We are connected to the past without knowing how we got here, until researchers and explorers take the time to lay it all out before us.
    I used to investigate the ruins of old settlements here in South Africa, but this was long before affordable, light cameras were available.
    Old bridges and their remnants stand out as monuments of the people that travelled here before me.
    Thank you.

  • @skylinegtr-gd2lg
    @skylinegtr-gd2lg 2 місяці тому +4

    Steve ... you sir, are a true historian! Another superfino video trip thru time - - most enjoyable!

  • @Bigfoot14000
    @Bigfoot14000 2 місяці тому +5

    On a motorcycle ride with a friend, I visited Beale's Cut in the mid 1970s. At that time it was significantly deeper than shown in your video, more like the images shown in the old movies.

  • @rogertemple7193
    @rogertemple7193 2 місяці тому +15

    I really enjoyed seeing this look at Newhall Pass and Beale's Cut especially
    the many films and television shows that filmed on location here and this
    was really nice hearing the history of it and until next time Thank You.
    🤠🖖🇺🇲

  • @LeeFred78
    @LeeFred78 2 місяці тому +3

    Thanks Steve. I grew up in southern California and had never heard of Beale's Cut. As you were working your way through the brush, all I could think of was, "rattlesnake!".

  • @garypfalzbot
    @garypfalzbot 2 місяці тому +7

    I remember the 6.6 earthquake said to be centered in Newhall from 1971. They now refer to it as the San Fernando quake but it was a real jolter. Great video!

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  2 місяці тому +3

      It's been awhile since I've felt one. There was on Easter about 14 years ago I really remember though.

    • @leechjim8023
      @leechjim8023 2 місяці тому +1

      I believe it was centered in Sylmar.

    • @garypfalzbot
      @garypfalzbot 2 місяці тому

      @@leechjim8023 you could be right. I do remember when it happened that they mentioned it being Newhall in the initial radio reports.

  • @stevenkaskus6173
    @stevenkaskus6173 2 місяці тому +4

    It's crazy when I heard you say in one of John Ford's movie's they were in Monument Valley then going through the Cut, not even in same State. I love when I can identify places and catch stuff like that. Thanks Steve for the very interesting history, never knew this. Somewhere in the past I've seen that still shot of the horse and rider jumping over the gap, now I know where it was taken.

  • @MFBURNS7909
    @MFBURNS7909 2 місяці тому +3

    I'm glad I found this video and channel. I partly grew up further north in Saugus and I am proudly the SCV ❤🙏

  • @reallyhappenings5597
    @reallyhappenings5597 2 місяці тому +2

    I lived in the area for 10 years. Early CA history is a marvelous treasure that still lives in many forgotten places.

  • @scottpearce8772
    @scottpearce8772 2 місяці тому +5

    ... Thanks again Steve, your videos are the main reason I set my alarm on Wednesdays...

  • @hond654
    @hond654 2 місяці тому +3

    It is so good listening your stories at bedtime, helps me to unload. Thank you.

  • @rockinrobinguitarsmusic5285
    @rockinrobinguitarsmusic5285 2 місяці тому +11

    Thanks, Steve, another great adventure to a cool obscure place, , Bart

  • @jamesrossiter6586
    @jamesrossiter6586 2 місяці тому +3

    Another excellent video, and I’m glad to see you are in my stomping grounds with these latest videos. I feel like you might be going to the St. Francis dam disaster sight soon. Thanks for taking us viewers to all these interesting places. Keep up the good work!

  • @leopardwoman38
    @leopardwoman38 2 місяці тому +8

    A friend of mine’s grandfather helped dig Beale’s Cut.

  • @larrybenson902
    @larrybenson902 2 місяці тому +6

    Thank you this video - I've heard about this for years. I'm born and raised in So Cal. Sad how everything seems to be trashed now.

  • @ChrisW-17
    @ChrisW-17 2 місяці тому +5

    I've walked through Beals Pass once before, and its amazing to think this was "the" road in and out of the Los Angeles area. What I've never figured out is where the tunnel was in relation to this location. I believe it was filled in, so it definitely would be hard to identify the area now.

  • @jds6206
    @jds6206 2 місяці тому +2

    Another EXCELLENT exploration of our South Western United States.....so very, very well done.

  • @Bossladyone2
    @Bossladyone2 2 місяці тому +9

    Oh getting a little homesick. Miss my friends in southern CA. I lived in a small community 20 or so miles up the road.

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  2 місяці тому +3

      Which town? Nothing seems so small in the area anymore until you reach Gorman.

    • @Bossladyone2
      @Bossladyone2 2 місяці тому +5

      We have 2 small communities north off the 14 and Sierra Highway. Acton and Augua Dulce. They are little Western Nuggets. Bedroom communities for folks working in the movie industry. We were part of the horse community. Augua Dulce boasts it's local vineyards and winery. Vasquez Rocks Park was named for Vasquez the notorious outlaw. We have a nature center there. Montie Montana entertained us with stories and roping tircks.

  • @michaelmartin2832
    @michaelmartin2832 2 місяці тому +1

    Steve! I don't know how you find so many interesting stories about early days in the West. Your historical perspective and honest presentation, not to mention humor (Newhall Oil Refinery, haha!), make Sidetrack Adventures one of my favorite channels. Thanks!

  • @alanhelton
    @alanhelton 2 місяці тому +3

    I’m truly grateful for these videos you post. A few have hit very close to home. Others are in places I probably will never reach. It’s those ladder videos that I have such a fondness for. This is likely one such place. However, with the prior you still tend to provide information I didn’t even know.

  • @Dbusdriver71
    @Dbusdriver71 2 місяці тому +2

    Once, there were pics of these plaques in downtown LA. Its because there was so much vandals that it was removed and no longer replaced. The history of these areas are still on line and there are pics floating around for all to see. Great Video!

    • @seanmmcelwain
      @seanmmcelwain 2 місяці тому

      Not simply vandals but POS tweakers steal these plaques to melt down at scrapyards

  • @rickkaylor8554
    @rickkaylor8554 2 місяці тому +3

    Great video. You always come up with the most interesting esoteric pieces of history. I always enjoy your videos and find them to be entertaining as well as educational. Great job!

  • @openskyphotography
    @openskyphotography 2 місяці тому +2

    That's right near the train tunnel. We'd head into the tunnel (which was about a mile long), on the Newhall side, then pop out under the overpasses where the 5 and 14 split. It was like entering a portal and coming out in a new planet. If a train came while we were in the tunnel, it was narrow so we had to run away from the train and jump into what we called "cubby holes." Or if we were daring (read: stupid), we'd run TOWARDS the train and get to the nearest cubby hole before it got to us. The train would suck oxygen along with it, but it was never strong enough to deplete all the air (even the longer trains). SO FUN.
    Thanks for jarring loose some good memories. Cool video.

  • @Kernfederate
    @Kernfederate 2 місяці тому +17

    My family traveled to the Los Angeles area in 1850, it's a surreal thought to think they very well may have known about the construction of the cut, and possibly traveled through it after its construction.

  • @cartwheels4amile
    @cartwheels4amile 2 місяці тому

    One of my favorite channels if not my favorite channel on UA-cam. Thanks for doing what you do Steve

  • @rockyroad-hq7hz
    @rockyroad-hq7hz 2 місяці тому +3

    Great research in finds old stills and movie footage to our American history. I give you thumbs up 👍 for your homework.

  • @bethintexas9678
    @bethintexas9678 2 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for bringing this history to life. I can remember seeing the oil refinery from the road as we drove up to the central valley when I was a teenager. The oil on the hillside looks like oil from a natural seep. You see patches like that in other areas of SoCal where there are natural oil or asphalt seeps.

  • @rockville34
    @rockville34 2 місяці тому +4

    Excellent videos, always look forward in seeing them. Herer's an "atta boy"

  • @jbtrimar
    @jbtrimar Місяць тому

    Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. I lived in Canyon Country for a while and knew a lot of that history, but never visited. Well done.

  • @williamlloyd3769
    @williamlloyd3769 2 місяці тому +4

    Hope you get a chance to visit the Santa Paula creek oil seeps / extraction caves as well as the Union 76 headquarters in Santa Paula, CA.
    PS - with all the natural oil seeps in the area, not sure to what standard they should spend money to remediate the land around the old refinery. Depends on future usage.

  • @lauraw289
    @lauraw289 2 місяці тому

    Steve, I really enjoy your tours. I love learning the history of these places. Your presentation is calm, witty and respectful. I can tell you really care about the subjects and places you visit. Keep up the great work!

  • @peterschorn1
    @peterschorn1 2 місяці тому +28

    The tires mysteriously return to the headwaters where they were spawned...

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  2 місяці тому +7

      No matter how remote you get, tires will be there.

    • @hawkeyehiott
      @hawkeyehiott 2 місяці тому +3

      That’s hilarious. Do you see what he did there, cause tires start life as oil. Now they’re back home

    • @martyjoseph9507
      @martyjoseph9507 Місяць тому

      😂

  • @katheyjberry
    @katheyjberry 2 місяці тому

    Gosh, just found this. So glad I did. What a great video on this piece of history. Thank you so much for your hard work and efforts in getting this produced.

  • @steveyoung9951
    @steveyoung9951 2 місяці тому +3

    Thanks Steve ! I never knew about the Beale's pass .

  • @OscarVaughn
    @OscarVaughn 2 місяці тому

    I am so glad i found your channel a few years ago. You continue to show some of the most interesting content out there. Even tho we live in Austintown ohio theres a history teacher here at the local middle school that uses your video's in some of his classes. Im glad i was able to share your channel with them and im even more happy that kids are learning from what you've been showing. Thank you for taking us along.

  • @eaglerare1273
    @eaglerare1273 2 місяці тому +5

    “Side” note here Steve, lol, not far from there in the town of Newhall in the 1950’s, there was a tragic CA Highway Patrol shooting, I believe 4 troopers were killed and it sparked a huge training transformation in how police approach felony vehicle stops. Pretty sure there was a ceremony years ago and the passerby citizen who tried to assist the cops was honored as well. There is a plaque near the spot. Oh well when I saw the town I instantly thought of this incident. Cheers and go Padres!!!

    • @SidetrackAdventures
      @SidetrackAdventures  2 місяці тому

      Is the plaque still there? Down the street I saw where they had an acrylic marker up, I guess its less likely that would be stolen, but it was for something else that used to be in the area.

    • @eaglerare1273
      @eaglerare1273 2 місяці тому

      The site for the memorial is:
      28648 The Old Rd, Valencia, CA 91355, the current CHP local office​@@SidetrackAdventures

    • @eaglerare1273
      @eaglerare1273 2 місяці тому +2

      The actual crime scene is now covered by part of the Magic Mtn Parkway. The incident actually occurred in 1970. A nearby bridge over 1-5 is also named in the fallen honor. Governor Ronald Reagan had a quote on the plaque that’s in the memorial garden at the CHP office. Would be a cool sidetrack adventure
      Thanks again for all your great stories Steve ✌️

    • @eaglerare1273
      @eaglerare1273 2 місяці тому

      “The Newhall Incident” is the historical name for this tragic event when you google/wiki it

    • @anitaoconnell2799
      @anitaoconnell2799 2 місяці тому

      The incident happened in the parking lot of a restaurant called Tips. It was right off the highway, and it was the kind of place you pass a hundred times without giving it a thought. But Tips was known for its bar - they served the biggest, most elaborate, and creative drinks. Tips is long gone but I had the fortune of visiting the bar back in the day.
      My neighbor worked for the CHP starting in 1973. He said the incident cast a long dark shadow and changed everything.

  • @dsrtdwg1501
    @dsrtdwg1501 2 місяці тому +1

    You never fail to entertain and enlighten. Thanks for your time and effort

  • @jetsons101
    @jetsons101 2 місяці тому +3

    The abounded camper by the bid storage tank can be seen on G-Earth birds eye view.
    Great watch. When we go there for a walk were in a group of 8 or more for safety.

    • @jamespell8091
      @jamespell8091 2 місяці тому

      Good idea

    • @jetsons101
      @jetsons101 2 місяці тому

      @@jamespell8091 It's about 3 or 4 adults and the rest kids. It's really a great place to hike...

  • @derekzimmer6335
    @derekzimmer6335 2 місяці тому

    Enjoy every UA-cam video you make, especially the rich history you bring to every video.