Everything about batterys, diagnosis, testing and charging

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  • Опубліковано 26 гру 2024

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  • @klwthe3rd
    @klwthe3rd 5 років тому +7

    You know Sorin is a good man when he is willing to help his competition 3 stores down. I learned so much from this video. Thank you for being an honorable man, Sorin.

  • @giuliaesposito3071
    @giuliaesposito3071 7 років тому +31

    I want to thank you for your shares.
    your videos, unlike many "tutorials", put you in the situation to really understand the repair process, it really seems to be inside your laboratory.
    your knowledge on the internet is like gold and you, my dear, represent the essence of a web that can become a very powerful learning tool.
    compliments :)

    • @adorkorjessie6242
      @adorkorjessie6242 4 роки тому

      Not certain about the points made but ,if anyone else needs to find out about
      repair pc
      try Saankramer Electronic Magazine System (just google it ) ? Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my colleague got cool success with it.

  • @Zero_Ego
    @Zero_Ego 4 роки тому +3

    Just brilliant. So educational. Some of us just love trouble shooting and repairing - but sadly don't have such knowledge. These tutorials are priceless. Thank you so much.

  • @rizwanshaa
    @rizwanshaa 5 років тому +16

    one of the best teacher in the world

  • @grabitz
    @grabitz 6 років тому +9

    Thanks for all the info. People like you make UA-cam all worth it.

  • @xddarko
    @xddarko 4 місяці тому

    I feel like a battery guru after watching this :) Thank you Sorin! this is legendary!!

  • @Iceking007
    @Iceking007 5 місяців тому

    In order to properly test a battery or charging system... you must load test. I thought you might go that route at the beginning. The charging test you did is a great quick check method. But as you're saying for a detailed battery analysis, the battery must be cycle tested. Measure the voltage drop on a load test, measure the charging capacity (time & rate), as well as the discharge time and output. Those are the ingredients for proper battery condition methodology.

  • @runthomas
    @runthomas 5 років тому +3

    this was good lesson..watching him do so many ..i eventually understood.

  • @knightwar3
    @knightwar3 3 роки тому +2

    This is the proper way to tell if the battery is good or not, i am sure that i've watched another video when you test batteries but i found this one hiding from me somehow in your old videos playlist lol thanks a lot for all these great video lessons

  • @imag555
    @imag555 5 років тому +2

    Good job !
    Really appreciate you're channel!
    This is the easy way and best way to check the batteries.
    Thanks

  • @rezajavid1680
    @rezajavid1680 5 років тому +2

    When i had my repair shop the way we tested the fake battery with original one was to put _on + and +on _ on the battery ,if the power supply shows 0 current the battery was original, but if the battery shows any number the battery was fake. That worked for us very well.

    • @yellouu_theree
      @yellouu_theree Рік тому

      So basically you tried reverse charging the battery and if bms kicked in it was original and if it didn't prob fake?

  • @arianazadi180
    @arianazadi180 5 років тому +1

    Your a great master , and I am thanks of you , no one did explain me batteries as good as you

  • @simeonmihaylov6123
    @simeonmihaylov6123 6 років тому +3

    This video is very valuable. Thank you, sir.

  • @itzzz01
    @itzzz01 7 років тому +9

    Love your videos! keep the good work!

  • @Dr.muthanna
    @Dr.muthanna 7 років тому +2

    Nice method for checking battery
    Personally I use ampere meter to check it but know I learn a new way
    Thank you very much

  • @roche1237
    @roche1237 10 місяців тому

    You can never ever fail to amaze me Sorin, I think you were born a genius🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @NANA-zh7dh
    @NANA-zh7dh 4 роки тому +3

    Hi Sorin.. Is it possible for a faulty battery to cause a motherboard to fail?.. Immediately after replacing an old battery, with a new third party battery, the laptop failed to start, and all LED lights failed to light up.. Multimeter shows that the power adapter voltage is good, and also that the power to the motherboard is good... discharging the laptop and connecting only power supply, doesn't fix it.. still no start up, and no LEDs (2 minute hold on power button for discharge with adapter and battery removed).. what are your thoughts?

    • @NANA-zh7dh
      @NANA-zh7dh 4 роки тому +1

      voltage readings on the battery:
      from ground to positive (red & black wires) shows as 0v..
      there are 9 wires total
      two black at one end..
      two red at the other end,
      grey, green, white, and blue in the middle..
      blue to ground measures 4.38v
      blue to grey 3.1v
      blue to green 3.1..
      blue to yellow 4.34..
      grey, green and white have 0v against ground

  • @LeDocteurPC
    @LeDocteurPC 6 років тому

    almost every video is a lesson, thank for sharing. a big thank. i want to see under microscop what do when u check if board is ground or not, sometime u check if board is ground but not under microscop and we can't see where u put the multimeter or the power supply cause we are noob. please continu to share with us, we love learn without shematics... we love to learn electronics things,... And more ; i'm french, but i understand every word, cause u speak like me, slowly, with simple words.
    Thanks, continue to share, we are a lot behind the screen and you are a teacher for us

  • @defragment418
    @defragment418 2 роки тому

    as always great explanation. I'm trying to find the Video where Sorin plugged different chargers to laptops showing nothing bad will happen if the specs are not the same.Does anyone know which video it was?

  • @eduardpetcu92
    @eduardpetcu92 5 років тому +1

    At 1:04:35 you saved a battery that was not good. You looked at Voltage going to 3.9v, but was not taking Amps... It was 0A... Was that really ok?

  • @YARI.ff.gameing
    @YARI.ff.gameing 3 роки тому

    i LOVE YOUR WORKING AND YOUR ISPLAN

  • @aszandek
    @aszandek 5 років тому +1

    Hello Sorin, thank you so much!

  • @Pihmusik-PiCh-Expert
    @Pihmusik-PiCh-Expert Місяць тому

    Dziekuje Sorin!!!!

  • @EurekaRecycler
    @EurekaRecycler 4 роки тому

    So if an old battery has higher resistance, it must tend to heat up when trying to charge ? Hay that new battery checker rejuvenator device you show'd us ( in another video ), I went to the site to buy a this rejuvenator they say they where back ordered and wrote a contact note to them and they never got back to me.

  • @Iamsuccesspro
    @Iamsuccesspro Рік тому

    It's the voltage that caused the charge controller to cut out?

  • @dedskin1
    @dedskin1 6 років тому +3

    I dont know exactly how to calculate Battery internal resistance, but if its Ohms law , then 4V on 1A is about 4 ohm of resistance , by the way , that Resistor , doesnt look like one to me ,that looks like Ceramic Cap , metal foil cap or something , but i guess it is resistor , otherwise DC wouldn't work . Like always Sorin ( yeah i know the name ) makes good videos, no commercials , no product placement , no "unboxing videos" , no " look what i purchased videos " , just str8 electronics .

    • @skepticalmechanic
      @skepticalmechanic 6 років тому

      Correct you are... That would be a bad battery...

    • @gorky_vk
      @gorky_vk 4 роки тому +2

      you can make that math only with voltage over battery voltage. So if battery voltage is 3,6 and on power supply you have 4V with 1A then is 4-3,6=0,4 so that will give you 0,4ohm internal resistance (not precise, some of that will be resistance of PS cables etc but close enough).
      And yes, he didn't use normal resistor but NTC thermistor. That's why you can see current go up over time, as it get hot resistance go down from rated value. They are used as inrush current limiters.

  • @ElectronPcRepair
    @ElectronPcRepair Рік тому

    Hi again Sorin and community, as I m trying to charge the Li-ion using digital Power supply, it beeps for Short circuit. Is it the battery or the psu ? Thanks

  • @MisterXS75
    @MisterXS75 4 роки тому

    does this tecnique apply to NI-MH batteries too ? can we check the same way for example 7.2v ni-mh batteroes for toy boats?

  • @jeramsadventuretv4905
    @jeramsadventuretv4905 6 років тому +2

    Thank you for this video again sir! I salute!!!

  • @reynaldofigueroa3372
    @reynaldofigueroa3372 7 років тому

    I know now how to test batteries, thanks to you. Thanks again

  • @johnygunn3188
    @johnygunn3188 5 років тому +3

    Heheh, what Sorin forgot, is that under that plastic piece of the battery, there is a charging protection circuit. The last protection for battery, and you can just cut it out and use battery two leads plus and minus and charge, all the way. Its not always the battery that's wrong itself, sometimes its the battery circuit. under the plastic.

    • @em0_tion
      @em0_tion 3 роки тому +2

      I can assure you he didn't forget it. The whole premise of the video is A customer walks in and he has to find out *immediately* if the battery is really due for swapping or the phone's problem is elsewhere. Haven't met a customer that's ok with disassembling his original battery for any reason.

    • @theawesomegamer123
      @theawesomegamer123 3 роки тому

      At that point, you would just replace the battery as it is more cost effective and safer.

    • @theawesomegamer123
      @theawesomegamer123 3 роки тому +1

      Shows that you did not watch the whole video, check 50:45 he talks about it here.

  • @gentledracula9502
    @gentledracula9502 5 років тому

    cred ca cea mai buna metoda de a stii daca bateria e buna este aceea de a observa daca incarcata full se autodescarca in timp (sa zicem 2 saptamani).Autodescarcarea asta tine de rezistenta interna a batriei, cu cat aceasta e mai mare, cu atat se va descarca mai repede.

    • @silviuguseila2552
      @silviuguseila2552 5 років тому

      1) a explicat de mai multe ori ca ii trebuie o metoda extrem de rapida de testare pt ca clientii nu pot astepta un diagnostic saptamani
      2) probabil gramada aia de baterii nu a stat doar 2 saptamani ci luni de zile, oricum

  • @Iamsuccesspro
    @Iamsuccesspro Рік тому

    What do you do with all those batteries?

  • @azatiku
    @azatiku 6 років тому +4

    when i see those old nokia batteries i know he is been doing repairs for long time )

  • @redfrog2100
    @redfrog2100 5 років тому

    Thanks man for the knowladge share..your the best

  • @giorgostexnikos4118
    @giorgostexnikos4118 6 років тому +1

    best video ever.thenks for lesson sorin

  • @paraskevasvidakis5097
    @paraskevasvidakis5097 6 років тому

    hi Sorin many Greetings from Greece

  • @TheKetsa
    @TheKetsa 6 років тому +2

    Would you have a recommendation on a cheap linear power supply ?

  • @kytkinlevy
    @kytkinlevy 6 років тому +2

    Great video, thank you very much!

  • @yellouu_theree
    @yellouu_theree Рік тому

    Some of those batteries were 4.4v full charge voltage

  • @chrisvax7009
    @chrisvax7009 6 років тому +1

    so if with 2.0A have 4.0v or something around that ,then we must have with the multimeter 3.7,3.9 or something higher than 3.6. if we have 2.0A and 4.6v and with multimeter have 3.2v then we have a faulty battery am i right?

    • @theawesomegamer123
      @theawesomegamer123 3 роки тому

      The first point might not always be true, but your second point is correct. High voltage with power supply but low voltage with DMM most likely means bad battery.

  • @tl2797
    @tl2797 7 років тому +1

    Thank you for this video, it's very useful!
    Did you limit the volts and let the PSU decide on amps by the battery draw or did you limit amps and let PSU decide on volts? Or let him decide on both by himself? Sorry for confusing question, lol, my lab supply is acting a bit differently so I'm not sure by watching yours :)

    • @rajen85guy1
      @rajen85guy1 7 років тому

      hello sir I am rajendra from india , sir I like your work, I want to learn reparing laptop but hear is not any expert , and he dont want to teach wat can i do , I want to make expert reparing laptop cas you, sir plz, if u have time call me bcoz I hv no your no. 8445191895 plzzzzz

    • @tl2797
      @tl2797 7 років тому

      He has more than 100 videos on this channel, start from the beginning and you'll learn a lot.

  • @eduardpetcu92
    @eduardpetcu92 5 років тому

    Also, I have one more question... From what I understand if a battery is new, the values between charging and testing w multimeter should be very close. If it's new, new, not forgot on the shelf.
    Then, considering that what I said is true (if you can verify or know), if you attach a capacitor to a 40% battery that has 4.5v charging @2Amps and 3.7v testing with multimeter (FOR EXAMPLE)... if you choose the right capacitor, can you somehow smooth it back, like in a dodgy way... (In an example, that, if you could - 'cuz clearly you cannot attach it in a phone that's perfectly enclosed (with no space left).
    What are your thoughts on this?
    Wikipedia...
    "The more a capacitor is charged, the larger its voltage drop"
    "The current alters the charge on a capacitor, just as the flow of water changes the position of the membrane. More specifically, the effect of an electric current is to increase the charge of one plate of the capacitor, and decrease the charge of the other plate by an equal amount. This is just as when water flow moves the rubber membrane, it increases the amount of water on one side of the membrane, and decreases the amount of water on the other side."
    I'm trying to get to a solution to fix the internal resistance of batteries... If you open them, instead of adding a capacitor... Does battery have a physical resistance inside, in the circuit? Or are you saying that the batteries themselves in time create or retain resistance?

    • @gorky_vk
      @gorky_vk 4 роки тому +2

      adding capacitor on dead battery will help with short (extremely short) current draws but in normal usage if battery is not in condition to give current directly it will not be in condition to charge capacitor either.
      There is no physical resistor inside of battery, resistance is created by long electron path from it position on foil to battery terminal. (over simplied)in older battery anode and cathode foil get damaged, it's harder for electrons to move to terminal and resistance grow up. Additional heat crated that way just make things worse creating more damage and resistance grow up more and additional heat....
      Also I think many people didn't get from where voltage difference coming from. He try to explain but it can be hard if someone don't understand voltage drop occurring on resistor when current pass through it. That's main reason why bad batteries give higher voltage measurement - you have voltage on battery (let's say 3.8V) and voltage that is dropped over "resistor". If normal battery have resistance of 0,5 ohm and two amper go into that battery voltage drop over "resistor" will be 1V. So 3.8+1V will give you 4,8V. But if your voltage is 5,8 that mean resistance is double than normal and it can't be good.
      I here choose 0,5ohm just for easy math, new good battery will have lover resistance and voltage drop will be even less than 1V with 2A charging. It will be around 0,5V or even less.

    • @seckinseckin3919
      @seckinseckin3919 3 роки тому

      or you just measure with ESR meter...

  • @rahulsarkar791
    @rahulsarkar791 2 місяці тому

    My best master ❤❤❤

  • @eduardpetcu92
    @eduardpetcu92 5 років тому

    That's a nice job! Sad that we lost you from our country... I may have needed your knowledge and skills with a Clevo Laptop now that it's not charging the battery (but the led is orange, like charging).
    But, hopefully, I may have learned one or two things from you, and i hope i'll repair my laptop, a problem that i personally created shorting something on the motherboard when trying to unplug fan with something metallic. My bad...
    Thank you for opening my mind!

  • @sokts5422
    @sokts5422 4 роки тому

    Hello sorin, guys, wishing to all a healthy new year!
    I need to transfer my data from a cell phone who's battery is bad(can't charge). How could i put direct power on it safely by soldering some bridges?

  • @ElectronPcRepair
    @ElectronPcRepair Рік тому

    🙏 thanks a lot sorin. Pls do video on How the Laptop BMS works the and connected Li-ion batteries works and how to identify bad cells amon to them. Thanks 🙏

  • @yehtut3209
    @yehtut3209 3 роки тому

    many thanks, sir .

  • @PCCenterNetworkSolution
    @PCCenterNetworkSolution 6 років тому

    Nice one sir... i personally use amperage to check battery charging and discharging, i totally agreed how u check battery, except one... ive seen LG batterry, i been repairaing phones for bread and butter but .. LG phone BATTERY... 99.9% ur method wont work.... anyways ur channel is very intertaining and u do the job.... keep it...

  • @barakmihshuv
    @barakmihshuv 7 років тому +3

    thank you for long and quality video my friend i learn a lot from you thanks again god blace u

  • @OTTLive24
    @OTTLive24 4 роки тому +1

    what is the name of your power supply u r using i want to purchase it from my nearby market

    • @saheedoloyede6675
      @saheedoloyede6675 3 роки тому

      I also like to have that type of power supply or any other recommended one.
      Thanks (saboltech@yahoo.com)

    • @theawesomegamer123
      @theawesomegamer123 3 роки тому +1

      @@saheedoloyede6675 Be careful with putting your email on UA-cam. I would remove this if I were you

    • @tanishqbhaiji103
      @tanishqbhaiji103 3 роки тому

      @@saheedoloyede6675 it will be like 70-100 bucks want me to send the link?

  • @NeverGiveUpYo
    @NeverGiveUpYo 5 років тому

    Another good video. Thanks for your effort!

  • @Leon536d
    @Leon536d Рік тому

    Can chip installed in heuman body?

  • @especialistascopus3776
    @especialistascopus3776 День тому

    Very good my Friend

  • @urgencepc4563
    @urgencepc4563 7 років тому

    I really appreciate your videos.
    Thank you.

  • @byTTechInnovative
    @byTTechInnovative 3 роки тому

    thanks for knowledge. you are great. have a nice day. sincerely.

  • @benafluck
    @benafluck 5 років тому

    That's why you should use your bench PSU.

  • @cemalkose8924
    @cemalkose8924 3 роки тому

    Hello there.
    To your studies where you do battery and USB cable tests;
    can you add subtitles?
    I enjoy following your work.
    The subtitles help us to understand you partially.
    We predict the result you will reach by guessing the parts we do not understand from the video.
    I wish you continued work.
    Kind regards

  • @dongkoy1978
    @dongkoy1978 7 років тому +3

    nice video sir

  • @ambersmith6517
    @ambersmith6517 3 роки тому

    good video and thanks for the awesome solder paste best i have ever used smells good also

  • @earthelder2065
    @earthelder2065 5 років тому

    Thanks Sorin!

  • @paminos9970
    @paminos9970 6 років тому +3

    you are the best!!

  • @thesenseman
    @thesenseman Рік тому

    I like her u explain things here to us may GOD bless u sir 🙏 pls the other videos u did about small phones I am In nigeria how can i get many small old phones to sale here in nigeria

  • @seckinseckin3919
    @seckinseckin3919 3 роки тому

    instead of PSU you can use ESR meter i think

    • @yellouu_theree
      @yellouu_theree Рік тому +1

      Most esr meters can measure only empty capacitors and they get damaged if connected to charged one. But it might be worth trying connecting the battery in series with the coupling capacitor of known internal resistor value and subtracting it afterwards. Not shure if it would work...

  • @RajVeer87156
    @RajVeer87156 4 роки тому

    Is it worthy to change one or two defective cells in a laptop battery or buy new one?

    • @theawesomegamer123
      @theawesomegamer123 3 роки тому

      Usually it would be more cost effective to just purchase a whole new laptop battery as the price difference is not that high, but the time required (overhead) is significant.

  • @runthomas
    @runthomas 5 років тому +1

    we understand that if high internal resistance the voltage will be higher....and low internal resistance the voltage will be lower..
    the big question ..which didnt get answered was....what is high voltage ..and what is low voltage...
    he just assume we know that 4.6 volts is to be classed as low
    and 6.7 volts is to be classed as high
    if i have different battery.....maybe bigger ...maybe low is 9volts
    and high is 12 volts..
    how to know this ?

    • @silviuguseila2552
      @silviuguseila2552 5 років тому +1

      The first 6 mins of the video answers your question: all Li-Ion cells are 4.2. Key word is cells, 9v means more than one cell. You cannot test internal resistance of a battery pack, you need to test each cell individually

  • @davutozturk3348
    @davutozturk3348 3 роки тому

    Thanks a lot

  • @chrismac4441
    @chrismac4441 5 років тому

    Whenever I try this, my voltage always stays constant at whatever I set it to (4.2) and the current varies every time. I can't get a constant 2A. Am I doing something wrong?

    • @electronicsrepairschool
      @electronicsrepairschool  5 років тому +1

      setup the current at 2 amps and the voltage 5v,

    • @chrismac4441
      @chrismac4441 5 років тому

      @@electronicsrepairschool of course! Thanks. It helps when you listen to the lesson

  • @Kris0725PL
    @Kris0725PL 5 років тому

    I See in the Carrier bag blackberry battery ^^ propably for blackberry 9900 :) i love repair blackberry phones.

  • @AMazen-rw7le
    @AMazen-rw7le 5 років тому

    appreciate your video

  • @cachifori
    @cachifori 7 років тому

    Can we use the same method to test iphone batteries?

  • @mathieuclerte5252
    @mathieuclerte5252 7 років тому

    Thanks my friend, but I really laughed when you tested like 30 batteries to find 1 bad and they were all good !

  • @seidumomoh7791
    @seidumomoh7791 7 років тому +3

    I love dis video

  • @YARI.ff.gameing
    @YARI.ff.gameing 3 роки тому

    i SEEN YOUR ALL VIDEOS

  • @freemanrolle7864
    @freemanrolle7864 7 років тому

    Wow bro you are great at what you doo

  • @donald1056
    @donald1056 6 років тому +1

    Look at all the cellphone batteries you have - wow

  • @JR-tv4tn
    @JR-tv4tn 4 роки тому

    Put a load will tell ?

  • @rifatahmed4659
    @rifatahmed4659 6 років тому

    You the best🙌🙌

  • @Azizbelaatar
    @Azizbelaatar 6 років тому

    ALWAYS YOU ARE THE BEST,
    Can we use the same method to test LAPTOP batteries?

    • @EatcleanwithHaresh
      @EatcleanwithHaresh 6 років тому

      AZIZ GRANDY yes

    • @jatroc2737
      @jatroc2737 3 роки тому

      @@EatcleanwithHaresh how must the method be modified?

    • @theawesomegamer123
      @theawesomegamer123 3 роки тому

      As long as the laptop battery contains lithium ion cells, then the same method would work for all lithium ion batteries, just different values as laptop batteries have multiple cells.

    • @theawesomegamer123
      @theawesomegamer123 3 роки тому

      @@jatroc2737 As long as the laptop battery contains lithium ion cells, then the same method would work for all lithium ion batteries, just different values as laptop batteries have multiple cells.

    • @jatroc2737
      @jatroc2737 3 роки тому

      @@theawesomegamer123 thanks but then how do we work out what those values should be. Also in some laptops and tablets it's not possible to ascertain a specific number of cells.

  • @weerobot
    @weerobot 6 років тому

    The real Battery Doctor...

  • @mohammedaljinabe1573
    @mohammedaljinabe1573 3 роки тому

    its 20:8 at night now i made it 1:15:31and I'm going to finish the video

  • @Pihmusik-PiCh-Expert
    @Pihmusik-PiCh-Expert Місяць тому

  • @geraszmogus1890
    @geraszmogus1890 6 років тому

    just wondering where you from?

  • @ocayaro
    @ocayaro 5 років тому

    Gud mornink!

  • @arvinbaba
    @arvinbaba 5 років тому

    Better way is check by resistor and without resistor....

  • @cristovaonunes4952
    @cristovaonunes4952 5 років тому

    You activate the siri on iPad at 21:20

  • @serkankaracam3749
    @serkankaracam3749 3 роки тому

    7:18

  • @charlesharkin2165
    @charlesharkin2165 3 роки тому

    Lower voltage better batt got it

  • @midnightrizer
    @midnightrizer 5 років тому

    Actually, that looks like a capacitor to me not a resistor.

  • @pa3deeghztv302
    @pa3deeghztv302 7 років тому

    Nice video regards pa3dee

  • @bddtmez
    @bddtmez 6 років тому

    please add subtitel

  • @Bond4080
    @Bond4080 5 років тому

    That is CAPACITOR !!!!!!!!!!!Not a resistor !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @gonedoneggonedoneg9863
    @gonedoneggonedoneg9863 Рік тому

    Bms

  • @johnmanning1006
    @johnmanning1006 6 років тому

    im sorry I love you but to much time on a battery, it works or it does not. if not get a new one.

    • @silviuguseila2552
      @silviuguseila2552 5 років тому

      Which one? Because he tested about 60 of them, in about 30 mins, that is not that much time