OMG that's exactly how my hair looks when I cut it myself. The left side sticking up and everything. Love your videos Dawid. Thanks for keeping me entertained during lockdown.
Bend it over the table and have it , i literally spat my dinner out and choked all at the same time with laughter . You really are turning the professionalism up to 12 .
Now do the same test on a large case with decent air-flow. I bet the Prism performs significantly better. There just isn't enough air flow and space in that case for the Prism to be effective because the heat is not removed from the case like with an AIO and with the Prism or any other air cooler, you have to be able to get the heat away and and out of the case much faster. As for the VRM, this is not a fair test in any case because the VRM does not have to contend with the heat coming off the cooler.
I find it interesting that the coolers struggled so much. My brother has a 1700x, and his doesn't run so hot at 4 GHz. Also, I run a 3900x with a wraith prism, and stock it'll run to nearly 90 C, but at 4 GHz/ 1.213 V it won't even hit 80 C. Good job on the video, but the numbers just make me wonder what's happening. The obvious difference is I don't use the NZXT H1, but my case isn't big either (In Win 301).
The In Win 301 is huge in comparison to the NZXT H1, maybe that's the raisin why the wraith prism works so well? I have great numbers with a 2700x with a Lian Li Lancool 2 Mesh Performance with the prism cooler. Maybe it's differences in manufacturing quality from cooler to cooler? I'd say it's more of the case, but idk man.
In my H1 I have TR AXP120-X67 with A12x25 instead NZXT AiO. On Ryzen 5600X max temps are something around 68C (Cinebench) and 61C while gaming. That's really good results, and its much more quiet, than AiO.
Nice video, I enjoyed it thoroughly. Nothing’s wrong with your hair btw, I personally think it’s looking pretty fresh. Keep up the great work, can’t wait to see your next video.
I just used the H1 V2 to do a build. I just realised the AIO pump wasn't working today and put the wraith spire I got with the new CPU. It's a Ryzen 9 7900 and the Radeon 7900 xtx. The GPU sits at about 50 degree celcius and the the CPU was about 60 for all my benchmarks. That's with the CPU sitting at about 5.4GHz no worries.
I was interested to see what a low profile cooler could do in this scenario. It looks like unless you do some "optimum tech" level super tuning... maybe even some undervolting, you can't expect to really let loose with an 8 or 12 core CPU. However, a locked 6/8core CPU, or maybe an unlocked 4core/ 8thread CPU you MIGHT be able to make that work. That being said, good on NZXT for cramming a 140 AIO in this thing. It clearly puts in work.
A lot of us have had to cut out own hair with similar results. The only comforting truth is that it'll grow back...eventually. BTW nice comic relief Dawid.
Semi thought through, half-bad,jokes. But such humble and sweet guy. Watching his videos is like tagging along on his adventures! Keep up the good content sir!
Can you look at the scythe shuriken 2. It’s a remake of the “big shuriken 2” from what I can see. I have it in my rig for a R5 1600 and I’m honestly Impressed.
Thank you , exactly what i was looking for. Still have questions but lots of answers were given. Like would a newer CPU air cooler work better, example Be Quiet, Noctua or Cooler Master?
My NZXT H1 AIO is finally performing really poor after 2 years. I swapped it out for the stock AMD Wraith Prism cooler that came with my 3700x and it is performing just as well as the AIO. I have two 140mm exhaust fans mounted to the back of the case that might be helping the air cooler.
@Bello Cr It's the first time I've had an aio or any other type of water cooling. I prefer the simplicity of air coolers myself but this one came with the case obviously. It's still fairly new but if it does start giving me problems I'll probably convert to an air cooler.
Having had a bathroom pipe leak previous week with all the walls and the floor around the bathroom fully wet and water flowing down to the apartment below.... this accident makes it even more clear that no water cooling ever will be installed in my PC. Yes a water cooler is better than a stock air cooler, but a good stock air cooler works flawless forever while an AiO get`s dirty inside over time, many pumps start making screeching and scratching noises the more mud and abrasive particles accumulate inside the closed loop, and all the hose connections will be weakened over time whenever the system runs hot and the liquid expands. IMO every AiO is a ticking time-bomb inside a PC but in the meantime every air cooler is a simple cooling fin construct functioning flawless and forever in 100% perfection ;)
i recently got a Ryzen 5 3600... i used the stock cooler that came with it, for about a week. it was SO TERRIBLE... just opening ONE firefox tab and using youtube with that ONE tab and nothing else open or running except for basic OS functions, it would STAY over 60c and would OFTEN hit 70c. that is by FAR the worst cooler i have ever used on anything, ever, in the 30yrs ive been working on and around PCs... decided to go with a Deepcool Neptwin V2. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYY better now. its like night and day difference in every way possible.
Well i got the same cpu [3600x] with the stock cooler and it runs fine, when im gaming at 1080p high it reaches a max temp of around 65-75 degrees. The cooling performance isnt exceptional but it doesnt cause any problems.
@@theferociousmuncher1771 youre lucky then, because just sitting idle, mine was hitting 60c but averaging about 55c. then, if i opened just one firefox tab, itd stay up real high... to heck with that.... the 3600x is NOT the same cpu as the 3600. they come with two different coolers too.
Thanks for this, its really good to know that if my H1s AIO takes a crap in the future, I can just use the stock until I find something else. (does NZXT even sell these AIOs)
I love the Scythe coolers but it seems like they're not great for AMD cpus. I think leve1techs tested it extensively and found that it doesn't have great die coverage for AMD but I can say my Scythe cooler on my 8700k at 5.2ghz absolutely slays.
I have a R5 1600 running at 3.8 at auto voltage and I average 60c in game at most. It sits at about 40c just watching youtube but I keep my room warm. I find that the AMD cooler does well enough for what it is. For a free cooler it's rather good.
i'm hoping you see this, but @ .45 you said that the cpu cooler is 96.3mm tall. Would you say that there is about 97mm if it directly touched the case/grid where the fan or aio connects too?
Your air coolers fans were facing towards the motherboard. Since there are no case fans, they just recycle hot air and it become a hotbox. The AIO is extracting hot air outside of the case. The noctua L12s should perform very well in extraction. I have that cooler and a 3700X. The only hot moments are not PBO but the max whatt you can give when the CPU works at 100%. Prime 95 small FFT 83C 110w. PBO never reach 75c despite boosts at 4.35ghz. Sure, AIO is better, but not mandatory.
if you flip your cpu fan (scythe) in which it will now pull air through the heatsink and exhaust it out of the top vent you might get better numbers. from what i see your wraith fits perfectly at the exhaust point but the fan isnt interchangeable like scythe. SFF is not about buy it slap it on, you need to have every ounce of attention to detail you can spare if you want to modify or build a good one.
i ran the same tests. and had the same max cpu tem. at 94.5 °C and an avg. of 82°C with the wraith and a r9 3900x at 4ghz (it couldnt max boost). i need too upgrade my cooling after i upgrade my graphics card. Wraith Prism and 12 cores= barely enough. for now, it does the job.
can you try putting it on mid tier cpu's like the Ryzen 5 3600 to see if its worth investing. My main reason is Ryzen 7 owners tends to dispose of the wraith prism and go with an AIO
How long had you been playing for when you took the temps for the H1 AIO with Battlefield V? I know AIOs are generally better than stock coolers, but a 15°c difference is just too much, considering that it's still a small AIO, even if it's a 140 instead of a 120. So I kinda suspect that the AIO hadn't had time to fully saturate the liquid, which usually takes between half and one hour, depending on the task an ok the loop size/ component list
Temps not-withstanding it's nice to know you can fit an air cooler and get away with it (mostly) when the custom AIO inevitably craps itself in a few years.
Soo i got the wraith prism for my pc my pc specs are: gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P and an AMD FX4300 with an INNO3D ICHILL HERCULEZ GTX770 and a 600 watts cooler master 80 plus certifed PSU.. and one 240 BX ssd.... at end i overclocked my amd fx4300 to about 4.20GHz and i put the switch on the cooler on h for high speed soooo and its running about eh 40 to 50 degrees while playing for me *note the wraith prism is from an amd ryzen 7 3700X and i use the original thermal paste on the cooler :3* (REPLAY TO THIS :3)
reason why.... most probably the faster heat transfer of Air coolers harming your VRM performance and with the AIO you get "less" obstruction with airflow reaching the VRM components?
(ok it was 1700x explains heat problems and low core clock, any reason why the 1700x was used with a x470 not a 2700 or 3700x or just a random bits build?,the 3rd gen ryzen is night and day difference over the 1000 and 2000 cpus ) Was this the 3800x/3700x if so, the default auto they should be running around 4ghz all cores,, under lighter loads closer to above 4.2ghz, 3.8-3.6ghz set manually will be affecting performance
Dawid Does Tech Stuff : Dawid, I am glad that you've learned how to properly read the Ryzen temperatures under the Tdie section :). You are one of the very very few on youtube that did that. As to Wraith Prism goes I can tell you from my experiences....I have a Ryzen 7 1800X cooled by Wraith Prism plus 1 140 mm Noctua Redux 1500 rpm fan (both on PWM variable control) and having an EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 iCX 11GB inside....and my 1800X doesn't exceed Tdie of 80 degrees C under maximum stress in OCCT, Prime95 combined with the GPU benchmarks running at the same time after hours of letting it run while at the same time being quiet....even when I play the most demanding and efficient games up to date that are AC Origins and AC Odyssey. But it is true that I have it built in a Fractal Design Define R5 Window case which is a proper PC case. It's all about the case and how you tune the system fans in combination with the cooler. But we both can agree that for a FREE stock cooler the Wraith Prism is literally a beast of a cooler for its size and it looks very very beautiful while being very capable :).
is this the best build currently possible? First. I am in the cult of Razer, I say this only because I know how cases with RGB ar so much better for system performance, And the fact I can go full cult custom systems, I will get the Lu Liahng (Spelling) Razer case, I would get a MSI TRX40 Pro Wi-Fi motherboard, and a AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X.NVIDIA TITAN RTX - Dual Graphics Cards in SLI. i think this will cover anything I make in blender, Right? Or anything anyone sends me that they have made. As well as making my gaming experience extremely cinematic. I play Warcraft, Sure, Hate on me. But I love it and these cards mean I will not need an upgrade for... Idk, What else would need to update? What could be solved with an update? Hmm, Anyways,I know this is overkill but I can do it so why wouldn't I. Tell me of better options but 128 GB HyperX Predator - 8 x 16GB - 3600MHz. It'so unnecessary but it's an Ultimate system, Use Everything. I am not 100% on a cooling system. I don't know what is best, So I'm going to go with a MAINGEAR APEX Custom Liquid Cooling. I would use Hardlines Black Tubing & Gold Fittings. It would look good in contrast to the RGB, It would reflect its cool lighting effects. Idk Choosing a coolant color is relevant in the darkness of the cables I want in the tubing but clear if need chosen, Dual Graphics Cards Waterblocks, Installed correctly. Asus ROG Thor power supply. I like it, So I can see the wattage, If it doesn't fit. Which is completely possible with this case, just go with a EVGA 1200W SuperNOVA P2. I wouls want to go with 2x 2TB WD_Black SN750 wouldn't that be great, If I wanted, Even a Sata SSD. IF just makig the best possible pc. For the future, Why wouldn't I load this full of 4TB Western Digital Blue SSDs as well. To be completely fair, You can connect HDD, Going 10 TB. I'd need a monitor. And for the purposes of artistic creation, being able to open boxes across the screen because of it being ultrawide, Is there a 4k OLED Curved monitor out here that has a decent refresh rate for playing the nerdy games I play, I think I have graphics covered, Show me a monitor that lets me see what I have created in the best format possible. If its a single monitor, I want 3,. Go Overboard with 4 and have the ultimate battle and work station, With one of the monitors being on a swing arm that allows it to be used across the room. Or maybe a cart or something, Im over thinking. But this would be the most amazing set up right? Expect a 49" Samsung C49HG90 - Ultrawide HD, and on each side a 27" ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQ - 4K using their own screen sharing technology that places a divider inbetween the screens and due to refraction and reflection It makes it all look like one big event. And if being spoiled, The same Ultrawide Monitor on top of itself. Thats 4 Monitors. 3 combined into visually one and another on top to see messages and stream info. Just great. I can draw in this amazing visual surroundings. it bring visual awareness its documented. If wanting to allow full disclosure of actions, then get a camera for me like the Logitech Brio 4k camera. Get a few and set them up, Ill stream it all, I built a machine for the challenge, what can it do workload side. For artistic work. I want a XP-Pen 22r Pro Display Tablet. This is vital to the whole build because I made it so I can Render Ideas in Blender, Draw in 3d spaces. Create 3d Items, Larger than Reality Items, And Be prepared for hard hit things. Id imagine this to be a creative hellcat.
That would be some build. Hopefully you don't put your ram in a pcie slot. And definitely don't measure anything before hand, just buy it all and hope it fits and if it doesn't just buy more high end parts and cross fingers. It's how professionals do it.
Damn, the NZXT 140mm AIO performed better than i expected........ But still, you cannot be mad with The (FREE may i remind you) AMD Wraith Prism RGB air cooler.
Wow my wraith cooler runs a lot better then that and I have a 7 3700x, I stay around 60-65 while gaming also that wraith you have is so loud maybe you got a bad one?
Not everyone knows (even tech reviewers) that there is a small switch at Wraith Prism cooler. By default, the switch is set to quiet mode where the fan will max at 2300RPM. The fan can run up to 4500RPM by toggling the switch, but it will scream like jet engine.
AIOs are not very recommended in terms of reliability, people that do serious water cooling prefer custom loops (yeah way more expensive), I just prefer larger air coolers.
I've been using only AIO's for a decade and never had one fail. I'll never go back to fans. I even added one to my 2080ti (NZXT G12). Went from throttling during a hurricane to dead silent at 58 under full load. NZXT cooler are normally very solid.
Considering my hair is totally overgrown (see Covid-19) and self-mutilation (of the hair) is my likely next step, I can Totally Dig D's haircut..... :-)
You’re SUCH a professional.
OMG that's exactly how my hair looks when I cut it myself. The left side sticking up and everything. Love your videos Dawid. Thanks for keeping me entertained during lockdown.
Seems like NZXT knows what they’re doing 😋
@@RicPerrott That was the main reason I made the video. 😁
@@RicPerrott Anyone who owns this case can see why the liquid cooler works so well.
@@badlilstang the PSU on the other hand... nzxt products are crap would NEVER put a psu from them in their
Except for the fact that the case basically has a ticking time bomb inside it.
@@elijahmckenzie9207 the PSU is seasonic though
"...bending the coolers over a table and having at them." Hahaha! Good stuff.
Hmm
Dawid answering questions I didn't have until now. Thank you
Hahah the shot at 1:44 cracks me up. Another killer video Dawid 👍
I really like the music you use in your videos.
Bend it over the table and have it , i literally spat my dinner out and choked all at the same time with laughter .
You really are turning the professionalism up to 12 .
😂 Hopefully you didn't lose too much food.
Hahahhaha same. Ever 📹 🎥 video makes me feel like he is a friend of mine and makes me laugh
I love your chillout twangy guitar music in your videos, where's it from?
Thank you, I get my music from epidemic sound. :D
Now do the same test on a large case with decent air-flow. I bet the Prism performs significantly better. There just isn't enough air flow and space in that case for the Prism to be effective because the heat is not removed from the case like with an AIO and with the Prism or any other air cooler, you have to be able to get the heat away and and out of the case much faster. As for the VRM, this is not a fair test in any case because the VRM does not have to contend with the heat coming off the cooler.
Should i buy an aio instead of an air cooler? Will there be much difference?
@@mohitdhameja5914 a good quality air cooler will be completely fine unless you plan on overclocking a good bit
I find it interesting that the coolers struggled so much. My brother has a 1700x, and his doesn't run so hot at 4 GHz. Also, I run a 3900x with a wraith prism, and stock it'll run to nearly 90 C, but at 4 GHz/ 1.213 V it won't even hit 80 C. Good job on the video, but the numbers just make me wonder what's happening. The obvious difference is I don't use the NZXT H1, but my case isn't big either (In Win 301).
The In Win 301 is huge in comparison to the NZXT H1, maybe that's the raisin why the wraith prism works so well? I have great numbers with a 2700x with a Lian Li Lancool 2 Mesh Performance with the prism cooler. Maybe it's differences in manufacturing quality from cooler to cooler? I'd say it's more of the case, but idk man.
Hey man thanks for making this! Now i know I can take out my AIO , install the air cooler and travel with my PC no problems!
In my H1 I have TR AXP120-X67 with A12x25 instead NZXT AiO. On Ryzen 5600X max temps are something around 68C (Cinebench) and 61C while gaming. That's really good results, and its much more quiet, than AiO.
Hi. How did you mount the Noctua fan - to exhaust the air or as an intake? Thank you.
try using a noctua nh l12 or a thermal right axp 100 full copper
Nice video, I enjoyed it thoroughly. Nothing’s wrong with your hair btw, I personally think it’s looking pretty fresh. Keep up the great work, can’t wait to see your next video.
I’m thinking of getting the NZXT x53 and converting the wraith prism into an exhaust fan if possible as I like the effects it has with the rgb
I just used the H1 V2 to do a build. I just realised the AIO pump wasn't working today and put the wraith spire I got with the new CPU. It's a Ryzen 9 7900 and the Radeon 7900 xtx. The GPU sits at about 50 degree celcius and the the CPU was about 60 for all my benchmarks. That's with the CPU sitting at about 5.4GHz no worries.
The loot lord would love to see you wear his shirt!
I wanna wear cool clothes!
I was interested to see what a low profile cooler could do in this scenario. It looks like unless you do some "optimum tech" level super tuning... maybe even some undervolting, you can't expect to really let loose with an 8 or 12 core CPU. However, a locked 6/8core CPU, or maybe an unlocked 4core/ 8thread CPU you MIGHT be able to make that work.
That being said, good on NZXT for cramming a 140 AIO in this thing. It clearly puts in work.
Did you try the wrath cooler in both intake and exhaust? 🤷♂️
A lot of us have had to cut out own hair with similar results. The only comforting truth is that it'll grow back...eventually. BTW nice comic relief Dawid.
Semi thought through, half-bad,jokes. But such humble and sweet guy. Watching his videos is like tagging along on his adventures! Keep up the good content sir!
Dawid, "There's an app for that." @ 4:13
Can you look at the scythe shuriken 2. It’s a remake of the “big shuriken 2” from what I can see. I have it in my rig for a R5 1600 and I’m honestly Impressed.
Got hit by Anna, nice hair style HAHAHA
And man you have the best ideas for videos lol great job!
Thanks! 😃 Yeah Anna went to town.
Thank you , exactly what i was looking for. Still have questions but lots of answers were given. Like would a newer CPU air cooler work better, example Be Quiet, Noctua or Cooler Master?
No. It's positioned weird in the case. I ran a noctua in it, sucked just as bad as the wraith, doesn't get any good airflow over the top of the cpu.
whats with the Garry thing Dawid ?
Gary is a generalized term for people that nit pick on Tech videos. 😁
My NZXT H1 AIO is finally performing really poor after 2 years. I swapped it out for the stock AMD Wraith Prism cooler that came with my 3700x and it is performing just as well as the AIO. I have two 140mm exhaust fans mounted to the back of the case that might be helping the air cooler.
The two 140's on the back of the case mod is a massive improvement, especially if you use software to control them depending on cpu/gpu temperature.
@Bello Cr If it is out of warranty I've watched a video on Mike's Unboxing where he strips, cleans and refills the aio, although its time consuming.
@Bello Cr It's the first time I've had an aio or any other type of water cooling. I prefer the simplicity of air coolers myself but this one came with the case obviously. It's still fairly new but if it does start giving me problems I'll probably convert to an air cooler.
I swear you deserve so much more likes and views for the content you make. Keep up the good content!
Do you have the budget to buy and test the Noctua NH-C14S? I would love to see how that compares to the rest
Having had a bathroom pipe leak previous week with all the walls and the floor around the bathroom fully wet and water flowing down to the apartment below.... this accident makes it even more clear that no water cooling ever will be installed in my PC. Yes a water cooler is better than a stock air cooler, but a good stock air cooler works flawless forever while an AiO get`s dirty inside over time, many pumps start making screeching and scratching noises the more mud and abrasive particles accumulate inside the closed loop, and all the hose connections will be weakened over time whenever the system runs hot and the liquid expands. IMO every AiO is a ticking time-bomb inside a PC but in the meantime every air cooler is a simple cooling fin construct functioning flawless and forever in 100% perfection ;)
Did you try to put the Prism at High settings? The little L-H switch on the side? could have at at LEAST 1c better :-D
i recently got a Ryzen 5 3600... i used the stock cooler that came with it, for about a week. it was SO TERRIBLE... just opening ONE firefox tab and using youtube with that ONE tab and nothing else open or running except for basic OS functions, it would STAY over 60c and would OFTEN hit 70c. that is by FAR the worst cooler i have ever used on anything, ever, in the 30yrs ive been working on and around PCs... decided to go with a Deepcool Neptwin V2. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYY better now. its like night and day difference in every way possible.
Well i got the same cpu [3600x] with the stock cooler and it runs fine, when im gaming at 1080p high it reaches a max temp of around 65-75 degrees. The cooling performance isnt exceptional but it doesnt cause any problems.
@@theferociousmuncher1771 youre lucky then, because just sitting idle, mine was hitting 60c but averaging about 55c. then, if i opened just one firefox tab, itd stay up real high... to heck with that.... the 3600x is NOT the same cpu as the 3600. they come with two different coolers too.
Maybe it is the auto voltage?🤔 Auto voltage took my voltages over 1.4 doing normal tasks😬. Nice new cooler btw🤩
Thanks for this, its really good to know that if my H1s AIO takes a crap in the future, I can just use the stock until I find something else. (does NZXT even sell these AIOs)
R.I.P. hair
Cause of death: Corona virus.
I love the Scythe coolers but it seems like they're not great for AMD cpus. I think leve1techs tested it extensively and found that it doesn't have great die coverage for AMD but I can say my Scythe cooler on my 8700k at 5.2ghz absolutely slays.
I have a R5 1600 running at 3.8 at auto voltage and I average 60c in game at most. It sits at about 40c just watching youtube but I keep my room warm. I find that the AMD cooler does well enough for what it is. For a free cooler it's rather good.
my 1700 also sits very low on temps but my paste dried
sooo 3 yrs later i use a NZXT H1 V2 , alpenföhn black ridge, 5700X with 140mm fan and 70c max with PBO :D
what happend to the hair???? looks very nice though
any chance you can run these tests with 8700k (stock) or ryzen 3600 ?
I can't get a haircut because barbershops are closed where I live.
i'm hoping you see this, but @ .45 you said that the cpu cooler is 96.3mm tall. Would you say that there is about 97mm if it directly touched the case/grid where the fan or aio connects too?
Great content as usual, but the way you say Some of the numbers confuses me from time to time 🙈
I've got the wraith prism running on a 5800X and in R20 temps don't break 80c with games around 55~68
Is it possible to add a 120mm fan at the top for exhaust?
25 C room temperature!? woah! that is HOT
Your air coolers fans were facing towards the motherboard. Since there are no case fans, they just recycle hot air and it become a hotbox. The AIO is extracting hot air outside of the case. The noctua L12s should perform very well in extraction.
I have that cooler and a 3700X. The only hot moments are not PBO but the max whatt you can give when the CPU works at 100%. Prime 95 small FFT 83C 110w. PBO never reach 75c despite boosts at 4.35ghz.
Sure, AIO is better, but not mandatory.
if you flip your cpu fan (scythe) in which it will now pull air through the heatsink and exhaust it out of the top vent you might get better numbers. from what i see your wraith fits perfectly at the exhaust point but the fan isnt interchangeable like scythe. SFF is not about buy it slap it on, you need to have every ounce of attention to detail you can spare if you want to modify or build a good one.
you should have added that laugh meme sound also ;D
Loving the aquafps shirt 🤘👍
i ran the same tests. and had the same max cpu tem. at 94.5 °C and an avg. of 82°C with the wraith and a r9 3900x at 4ghz (it couldnt max boost). i need too upgrade my cooling after i upgrade my graphics card. Wraith Prism and 12 cores= barely enough. for now, it does the job.
Wow this guy is super professional.
Is that an AquaFPS shirt?? 😁❤️
can you try putting it on mid tier cpu's like the Ryzen 5 3600 to see if its worth investing. My main reason is Ryzen 7 owners tends to dispose of the wraith prism and go with an AIO
Did you test this with the high fan setting on the wraith prism? I noticed that in the b-roll, the switch was on low, so I was curious.
I noticed the same... Fan was on low
1:38 Dawid are you not going to talk about your Japanese aircon??
How long had you been playing for when you took the temps for the H1 AIO with Battlefield V? I know AIOs are generally better than stock coolers, but a 15°c difference is just too much, considering that it's still a small AIO, even if it's a 140 instead of a 120. So I kinda suspect that the AIO hadn't had time to fully saturate the liquid, which usually takes between half and one hour, depending on the task an ok the loop size/ component list
Temps not-withstanding it's nice to know you can fit an air cooler and get away with it (mostly) when the custom AIO inevitably craps itself in a few years.
Like this kind of videos...keep it up
ooof, given how things are now, i am really tempted to get a 3600xt and use base wraith cooler :(
i have a ryzen 7 3700x with the Wraith prism cooler running at 4.15 GHz and mine is running at 67C
ive got an fx 8370 at 4.2 that boosts to 4.56+ all the time. stock voltage. that wraitch cooler. regular paste. 750d
Soo i got the wraith prism for my pc my pc specs are: gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P and an AMD FX4300 with an INNO3D ICHILL HERCULEZ GTX770 and a 600 watts cooler master 80 plus certifed PSU.. and one 240 BX ssd.... at end i overclocked my amd fx4300 to about 4.20GHz and i put the switch on the cooler on h for high speed soooo and its running about eh 40 to 50 degrees while playing for me *note the wraith prism is from an amd ryzen 7 3700X and i use the original thermal paste on the cooler :3* (REPLAY TO THIS :3)
reason why.... most probably the faster heat transfer of Air coolers harming your VRM performance and with the AIO you get "less" obstruction with airflow reaching the VRM components?
Any info on what CPU this is you are running? What needs so much voltage for 3.6? First gen 1700 or what?
You are awesome
Great video, thanks. Do you think that the NZXT H1 AIO cooler can handle a Ryzen 7 3800x, keeping it at somewhat similar temps to the 1700x?
Yeah.....
(ok it was 1700x explains heat problems and low core clock, any reason why the 1700x was used with a x470 not a 2700 or 3700x or just a random bits build?,the 3rd gen ryzen is night and day difference over the 1000 and 2000 cpus )
Was this the 3800x/3700x if so, the default auto they should be running around 4ghz all cores,, under lighter loads closer to above 4.2ghz,
3.8-3.6ghz set manually will be affecting performance
Dawid Does Tech Stuff : Dawid, I am glad that you've learned how to properly read the Ryzen temperatures under the Tdie section :). You are one of the very very few on youtube that did that. As to Wraith Prism goes I can tell you from my experiences....I have a Ryzen 7 1800X cooled by Wraith Prism plus 1 140 mm Noctua Redux 1500 rpm fan (both on PWM variable control) and having an EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 iCX 11GB inside....and my 1800X doesn't exceed Tdie of 80 degrees C under maximum stress in OCCT, Prime95 combined with the GPU benchmarks running at the same time after hours of letting it run while at the same time being quiet....even when I play the most demanding and efficient games up to date that are AC Origins and AC Odyssey. But it is true that I have it built in a Fractal Design Define R5 Window case which is a proper PC case. It's all about the case and how you tune the system fans in combination with the cooler. But we both can agree that for a FREE stock cooler the Wraith Prism is literally a beast of a cooler for its size and it looks very very beautiful while being very capable :).
Please review the Thermaltake S100 m-ATX case.
If not OC your CPU / GPU what is better? Air cooled or an AIO?
FPS / temp wise.
Wait but what ryzen CPU are you using?
is this the best build currently possible? First. I am in the cult of Razer, I say this only because I know how cases with RGB ar so much better for system performance, And the fact I can go full cult custom systems, I will get the Lu Liahng (Spelling) Razer case, I would get a MSI TRX40 Pro Wi-Fi motherboard, and a AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X.NVIDIA TITAN RTX - Dual Graphics Cards in SLI. i think this will cover anything I make in blender, Right? Or anything anyone sends me that they have made. As well as making my gaming experience extremely cinematic. I play Warcraft, Sure, Hate on me. But I love it and these cards mean I will not need an upgrade for... Idk, What else would need to update? What could be solved with an update? Hmm, Anyways,I know this is overkill but I can do it so why wouldn't I. Tell me of better options but 128 GB HyperX Predator - 8 x 16GB - 3600MHz. It'so unnecessary but it's an Ultimate system, Use Everything. I am not 100% on a cooling system. I don't know what is best, So I'm going to go with a MAINGEAR APEX Custom Liquid Cooling. I would use Hardlines Black Tubing & Gold Fittings. It would look good in contrast to the RGB, It would reflect its cool lighting effects. Idk Choosing a coolant color is relevant in the darkness of the cables I want in the tubing but clear if need chosen, Dual Graphics Cards Waterblocks, Installed correctly. Asus ROG Thor power supply. I like it, So I can see the wattage, If it doesn't fit. Which is completely possible with this case, just go with a EVGA 1200W SuperNOVA P2. I wouls want to go with 2x 2TB WD_Black SN750 wouldn't that be great, If I wanted, Even a Sata SSD. IF just makig the best possible pc. For the future, Why wouldn't I load this full of 4TB Western Digital Blue SSDs as well. To be completely fair, You can connect HDD, Going 10 TB. I'd need a monitor. And for the purposes of artistic creation, being able to open boxes across the screen because of it being ultrawide, Is there a 4k OLED Curved monitor out here that has a decent refresh rate for playing the nerdy games I play, I think I have graphics covered, Show me a monitor that lets me see what I have created in the best format possible. If its a single monitor, I want 3,. Go Overboard with 4 and have the ultimate battle and work station, With one of the monitors being on a swing arm that allows it to be used across the room. Or maybe a cart or something, Im over thinking. But this would be the most amazing set up right? Expect a 49" Samsung C49HG90 - Ultrawide HD, and on each side a 27" ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQ - 4K using their own screen sharing technology that places a divider inbetween the screens and due to refraction and reflection It makes it all look like one big event. And if being spoiled, The same Ultrawide Monitor on top of itself. Thats 4 Monitors. 3 combined into visually one and another on top to see messages and stream info. Just great. I can draw in this amazing visual surroundings. it bring visual awareness its documented. If wanting to allow full disclosure of actions, then get a camera for me like the Logitech Brio 4k camera. Get a few and set them up, Ill stream it all, I built a machine for the challenge, what can it do workload side. For artistic work. I want a XP-Pen 22r Pro Display Tablet. This is vital to the whole build because I made it so I can Render Ideas in Blender, Draw in 3d spaces. Create 3d Items, Larger than Reality Items, And Be prepared for hard hit things. Id imagine this to be a creative hellcat.
That would be some build. Hopefully you don't put your ram in a pcie slot. And definitely don't measure anything before hand, just buy it all and hope it fits and if it doesn't just buy more high end parts and cross fingers. It's how professionals do it.
@@Bubba_Grimm It all fits, so no worries. Probably should go 8000 quadros tho. the idea is to never HAVE to replace most of it
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Yes UA-cam you are high
@Patrick SAVAGE
I think all of us knew the winner when we saw title anyways
Who won
Damn, the NZXT 140mm AIO performed better than i expected........ But still, you cannot be mad with The (FREE may i remind you) AMD Wraith Prism RGB air cooler.
The aio is free with the case.
If only AMD would Make an LGA1700 mounting kit for the Wraith Stealh Prism. :(
How long were the stress tests for?
Isn't this the case that turns into a firelog?
Ya know, I'd say for a wood chipper it did a petty God job. 👍
The h1 case is a hot little number
Cryorig C7 next?
What is the aio in the h1 it is so cool
Wow my wraith cooler runs a lot better then that and I have a 7 3700x, I stay around 60-65 while gaming also that wraith you have is so loud maybe you got a bad one?
Not everyone knows (even tech reviewers) that there is a small switch at Wraith Prism cooler. By default, the switch is set to quiet mode where the fan will max at 2300RPM. The fan can run up to 4500RPM by toggling the switch, but it will scream like jet engine.
ah, quarantine style haircut
Dawid Does His Own Haircuts?
Can the aio suport a 3700x (I mean if it can cool ir with no problem)
NZXT almost always makes great products.
i like the "almost always" lol.
That comment aged well lol.
@@ItsNotFrey You are right! That's why i wrote "almost" you never know!
anyone knows why my pc has problems to boot after i updated bios and overclocked my athlon x4 860k (fm2+ platform) on ASrock FM2A78M-HD+
I never get over 70° on a hot day with the prism.
That case is no good for air cooling
AIOs are not very recommended in terms of reliability, people that do serious water cooling prefer custom loops (yeah way more expensive), I just prefer larger air coolers.
All the Gary's?
Id honestly buy that case if it came without the godawful AIO.
I refuse to use AIOs after my previous ones have consistently cooked themselves.
I had an x52 for two years cooling a 7700k at 4.9Ghz without issues.
Plus NZXT provides a 3 year warrenty so I'm good with that.
I've been using only AIO's for a decade and never had one fail. I'll never go back to fans. I even added one to my 2080ti (NZXT G12). Went from throttling during a hurricane to dead silent at 58 under full load. NZXT cooler are normally very solid.
I've been using a H100i for a good 6 years or so on my 4790k. Haven't had an issue.
Considering my hair is totally overgrown (see Covid-19) and self-mutilation (of the hair) is my likely next step, I can Totally Dig D's haircut..... :-)
umm I used wraith 4.4ghz 1.3 v 3600
Question! Is the wraith prism switched to low or high on the switch on the side of it?
That's a grear question Warman. It was on low, but honestly it sounds like it was on Ultra. 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff I'm about to install one on a 3600, gonna stress test on low vs high, on aida
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Please test on high
@@PCsandEVs Did it work?
the wraith prism keeping my stock 3700x around 65c in games
Those damn Garry's, always wanting to smell ya later
Dang it garry!!
What do you think of the RTX 2060 is it a good card, I'm doing my first build soon.
pretty good if you are fine with 6gb vram. The 2060S has 8gb if you have a high enough budget
Get a 5600xt instead
@@luna010 no
ZykoVortex
Why
@@luna010 D r i v e r s, nah I'm just joking