Nice video however you really didn't do a fair comparison. I have been building custom PCs now for 24 years both professionally and for my own use so I'd like to chime in. You compared an OEM stock air cooler rocking a single 120MM fan with a $130 aftermarket closed-loop AIO liquid cooling system that has two 120mm fans to cool a radiator with a larger overall surface area. It's fairly common sense that the AIO was going to outperform the stock air cooler. I think what you missed was just how well the stock cooler matched up to the AIO! The Cinabench scores were so close, it's really a wash. I'd have noted that Cinabench benchmark scores can easily drop if Windows is doing any background tasks (like downloading updates or simply reaching out to the Microsoft servers) so we should take those with a large grain of salt. The temps in game under load were a difference of 1 degree C, and a 7 degree C temp difference of the VRM in the system stability test? That, to me, isn't worth $130 if I was simply replacing the Wraith Prism that came with my CPU, or if I was replacing the Wraith Spire on an AMD 5 Series and deciding between the Prism and the Kraken the $90 difference isn't worth it. Something as simple as having three 120mm fans blowing cool, outside air across the board will nullify that. I also found it amusing that people talk about fan 'noise' when most of the time they have headsets on, the sound cranked up and their cases have three 120mm fans on the front, a number of fans on their GPU and then their PSU fan and two AIO fans (or twin fans on their tower cooler). I'm confused why you would recommend a tower cooler when you didn't do any comparison testing of any tower coolers (which would have been a more fair comparison, especially price-wise). You mention noise of this cooler but you recommended tower coolers with no mention of how loud they are, especially those which have dual fans. Your suggestions were also going off the assumption our cases have the clearance for a tower cooler. I'd also point out, tower coolers look like anus and if someone was looking at a Wraith Prism, let's face it the Wraith Prism looks better than any of those. If we are upgrading from a Wraith Spire, chances are we want the AMD logo and the RGB (the Prism gives us the ability to separately change the logo, ring and fan LEDs so that's big if we are into case modding). From my decades of experience, tower coolers have always been heavy things that move the center of gravity further away from your board, creating more physical load on the board. I have lost count of how many motherboards I've seen which have been damaged by a tower cooler. We could get an AIO, but again we may not have a case we can mount the AIO radiator in or we may not want any liquid near our computers, we don't want to spend $130 or more on cooling our CPU when the gains are so tiny or we don't want to be spending $130 every 4 years to replace the AIO as they loose fluid (and that's common for AIOs) The Kraken's pump is on radiator block which has always been a terrible design of AIOs. Pump failure is a common issue on this model. RGB connector is proprietary and you need their adapter to even be able to use it. A number of people have issues with the NZXT micro usb cable that plugs into a usb header on the motherboard and let's not get started on the NZXT Customer Service. AMD will happily, no-questions-asked, swap out a Wraith Prism if you have issues (I know as I've done this at my job multiple times). I do like your video, don't get me wrong, but I disagree with the core message of the video.
Now while I do agree with most of what you said. The Wraith Prism just looks gorgeous and for gaming loads it'll never run that hot/loud. It's a decent cooler if you're after the looks.
Remember that the Wraith was originally made for 125W CPUs so it's not just pretty. I also have the Prism and it's still essentially the same as the AM2/AM2+/AM3 stock coolers (I call them "Wraiths before they were called Wraiths") with an RGB ring. I've used this type of cooler for 25 years with three different CPUs rated at 125W without issue. These coolers are amazing. They may not keep your CPU insanely cool but they will keep the temps WELL within spec, even during all-core load benchmarks. Your CPU will NEVER feel the need to throttle. What more can you ask for?
I'm glad they decided to include coolers with the Ryzen 7's The Wraith Prism being included was actually the reason i bought a 3700x. With enough case fans and a slight undervolt, the heat buildup issue becomes less of an issue
Got a 3700X that included the prism as an upgrade from a 1600 with a wraith spire. The 3700X works OK with the Spire but I'm going to try it with the prism as soon as I can find (or replace) those plastic clip mount things. The 3700X has a 65 watt TDP, no need to go crazy with cooling.
I use it on my 2600X for 4.2 GHz all core OC. It idles at 27c and at 72c max load over time. Stunningly good temps that allowed me to beat the stock 3600 CPUZ single core score and virtually tie in multicore validated on site.
if you flip the Wraith Prism to mount from the bottom its so much easier, you can even remove the Wraith's fan and orient it so its not upside down. Its so easy this way.
Damn though... 80 degrees? my Wraith rarely goes above 55C, either this is cuz my 3700x is only ever at 60% usage at most and i'm barely overclocking to 4.05mhz, OR it could be because i have a super high airflow case, my fans are manually adjusted a bit faster than the turbo setting, and my house is usually at 22 Celsius. Probably all of those reasons. Its why i'm pretty happy with the cooler for now.
Interesting point about the VRM. Thinking about it. This is basically how fanheaters work. You blow air over something hot and get.. hot air. Which if directed on something will heat it up... Does it make sense to blow hot exhaust over something to cool it?
Funny I just got done building a spare gaming PC for my guests, and it has a Ryzen 7 3700X, And I stuck this cooler on it and man it keeps it around 53° C That was quite surprising in its performance. To the point now that I could probably lower its intensity because it is a pretty loud cooler. But it looks great, and I wish they made case fans with that style of prismatic fan, when they get to a certain RPM, it's just mesmerizing to look into. The OEM is cooler master so I keep hoping that maybe I'll find the cooler master case fan equivalent, but they don't have any that I know of.
I had the Wraith Prism on my 3900X. It just wasn't enough to keep up with the processor, especially when I was doing video editing and encoding. I decided to upgrade to another air cooler, so after watching a lot of different reviews, I decided to go with the Scythe FUMA 2 based on it's performance for the price. It was a great upgrade and now my temps are quite a bit lower. I'll now be passing my Wraith Prism to my wife to use on her 5600GT. I'm pretty sure it'll be a nice improvement over the included "Stealth" cooler.
With the right pair of headphones you won't even hear a jet engine. For those of us that like open back headphones it's a different story unfortunately :(
I have a Kraken X53 and a very similar config as yours, I put this PC together a couple of years ago, and my Kraken got very noisy, I tried a couple of methods but didn't work for me, so I switched back to the AMD that came with the CPU.
@Tech Illiterate - hi am very confused , i dont know what heat sink i have for my 3900x ? I do really hate and cant stand the ramping or the reving up and down and u and down, its bloody anoying. I considered a new BEQuiet Coolermaster i think it is called. I was wondering water cooling, but then i just though not worth the money ? not sure? im stuck and not sure what to do.
Tower coolers are a great affordable option that work as well or better than an aio water cooler. For example the Nuctua NH-D15 performs better than most aio coolers. It is not cheap though. bequiet will be a very formidable cooler
I was going to get a Ryzen 5 but I wanted the Wraith Prism cooler. So paid the extra for a Ryzen 7. The cooler is fine and most PC build videos tell you that unless your over clocking don’t waste the extra money. Your video is the only one that I have seen it go that high.
I am from india & using ryzen 7 3800X for studying engineering software, but i never use 100GPU because of thermal throttle. Currently temp is 34-38c. Sunny day it goes upto 42. AMD stock cooler is not able to handle temperature well.
true, it is actually really good compares to its price( around 21$ currently), would like to upgrade to a x53 after i save up(cause it is around 7x-9x the price vs. prism in my area)
I am building a RYZEN 3600XT set up at the moment and I bought a used Prism off Fleabay to fit instead of the Spire that is supplied with it, I was looking at a standard 3600 processor but they keep going out of stock and price increases, so bought this one as it was near the same price at the time. I won't be doing any over clocking, and I will eventually fit a water loop, so this will more than keep me going until I do that.
Honestly I want to get my hands on one. The One I have has grown on me quite a bit. It's a great cooler. Even for my 3700x. If I do get one I will do some testing.
I stilll have and use my 3700X (in 2022). I have it maxed out in PBO. And DDR4 3800MHz (CL16), and ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi). I scored *13,004* in *Cinebench R23*
Hi, I have been following your channel for some time, found by chance while looking for information on the AMD prism stock cooler. I can't find information on the small button on the heatsink where the usb-rgb plugs are. What is it for? Thanks and happy new year :)
There should be 2 grommets covering ports for the USB and RGB connections and a small switch that will change the MAX RPM of the fan. Low ~ 3000rpm and High ~ 3600rpm. Thanks for watching.
Honestly I think it will work great. I have a 5900x now but I no longer have the Wraith so I can't test it but I would say yes. That cooler is very effective.
Actually, I bought a Ryzen 7 3800x, wich just broke up while playing and then the RMA sent me a Ryzen 7 5800x instead. I bought it bc I never had a highend processor and I just wanted to. I do not overclock it and I am using it prism wraith from the 3800x. It is so loud and sometimes it just annoys me so much that I really want to change it to water cooling.
Hello sir first of all thanks for the comparison this is probably the only wraith prism vs 240mm aio in English haha. Anyway my question is I'm building a PC this week with R7 3700x + 3070 16gb 3200mhz ram and asus b550 motherboard. I play games at 1080p 240hz mostly csgo valorant and dota. I'm looking to stream these games and otherwise I might just play gta 5 or other to chill out. Also note that I'm not going to overclock at all! Should I go for a 240mm/360mm aio liquid cooler or should I stick with the wraith prism? The case I'm going to use is cooler master masterbox mb511 argb e ATX. Please let me know asap thanks in advance ❤️
240 vs 360 is only going to make a small difference in temp. I would presume no noticeable difference in performance. Since you're streaming the additional stress on the GPU will increase temperatures. The wraith will be fine as long as your case has good airflow. Personally I would buy an AIO for peace of mind. Sorry for the late reply!
I've been enjoying the Wraith Prism Cooler, but seeing better thermals I'll change it, I care about my pc's longevity, but I've certainly enjoyed the RGB on it, I have it customized to chase counter clockwise, and it looks awesome ! I definitely enjoyed the video you answered my question here now 2021 thanks dude ! 💯
In 2008 I bought a Phenom II X4 940. It came with a stock "Wraith before it was called Wraith" AMD cooler. That CPU's TDP is 125W and the only cooler that I EVER used with it was that stock cooler. I then re-used it for my 965 and my FX-8350. Now, TWENTY-FIVE YEARS LATER, that Phenom II X4 940 CPU still works and (amazingly) so too does its cooler. Don't let anyone scare you into thinking that using a stock cooler will reduce longevity because it clearly doesn't.
I have removed the stock Wratih fan (altogether with the plastic RGB housing) and jerryrigged in a "custom" 92mm fan with zip ties and two rubber something that I added for noise dampening and I've also used Kryonaut as heatpaste. So the cooler itself is quite good actually in my opinion, it's a shame that the rest of the budget went on an RGB housing instead of a slightly better fan, and I also don't like the mounting mechanism but believe me it still miles better than mounting the Cryorig H7. .D Details for those insterested: Used a Thermalright TR9225BW-1 fan specifically that I had laying around, but the point is: it wasn't something like a Noctua, but a very basic fan. Set a custom fan curve, so during "office use" it won't spin faster than a 1000RPM, and during gaming it goes to 1300RPM. You'd be suprised but it keeps my 3700X below 80°C (176°F) and at 1000RMP the fan is barely hearable, and at 1300RPM it's not louder than my GPU. So I don't think it's a bad cooler, it actually has more heatpipes - 4 to be specific - than something like a Cryorigh H7 that has only 3, and which I have tried earlier but had very similar if not worse results - it was going up to 83-85°C (181-185°F) during Warzone. I have also tried the Cooler Master MasterLiquid 240 which was obviously better but cost me something like $60 and was still peaking to 72°C (161°F) occaisonally.
I like the prism...so far...on 2 r7 5800X ...my issue on tower cooling is having all that stuff hanging off the motherboard. It's quiet and temps are about 50c running 24/7 and overclocking not a thing...how fast can Excel or cyberpunk go...Using a full atx case...mounting is NOT a treat and not to be done in dim light..read the instructions...then read them again. If we were talking about a micro atx or half height...we'd have a different discussion.
I've been using AMD stock coolers for 25+ years and I've never had a problem even once. My Phenom II X4 940 still works as well as it did the day I bought it. It has never seen an aftermarket cooler of any kind. When you think about it, why would AMD enclose a stock cooler that wasn't good? That would just be a waste of money for them.
Just got one for $30CAD from someone who got it for free with their Ryzen 7. I have an AIO cooler but I don’t do any heavy gaming, so I don’t see a need to have water in the build if it’s not necessary. Plus the RGB has to decrease temps a little? Pretty sure that’s how it works anyway.
I feel on the 3300X it'll be a great cooler. That chip isn't going to get near as hot as a Ryzen 7 or 9. I just gave my prism to my 14-year-old to better cool her Ryzen 3100 and I don't regret a thing. It looks good and keeps her 3100 plenty cool all while running near-silent due to the temps remaining so low. Much cooler in fact than the stock wraith stealth that came with her CPU, her temps dropped nearly 10-15 degrees on average. Not so much for my Ryzen 3900X though, I went aftermarket for my particular CPU. In fact, I never put the Prism on my 3900X so I couldn't tell you how well or bad the cooling is on my CPU however on a Ryzen 3 or 5 go for it!
I appreciate your video. I am not a gamer although my computer is considered a gaming rig. I have the 3700X and would like cool it down a bit more. Thanks.
I got one for 3.5$. It was completely worth it for my ryzen 7. Which used to run on a wraith stealth. I could tell the difference immediately. It was as if the CPU breathed a sigh of relief after screaming forever every time I ramped up Forza or No mans Sky.
The clips suck when installing it into the case, but I think it's MUCH easier though if you're constantly swapping fans, CPUs, motherboards, etc and installing it on the CPU outside of the case like I do with test builds. I regularly swap in my 2600x to update the BIOS on 450M motherboards that aren't updated for Ryzen 5000 CPUs and use the prism for this task. It's much easier to take apart for sure.
I just picked one up for 20 bucks for my R5 3600. I mostly am just gaming so I'm glad I found this video I feel like for 20 bucks I didn't get a bad deal overall.
The prism on a 3600 is well worth it. Picked one up myself, on the cheap. My max temps dropped about 20c and my cinebench score increased by around 70 points straight out of the box. With a bit of tweaking and playing around, it's even better. I can run PBO + AOC mobo setting, hitting 4.2 on all or most cores boost for extended periods, and I'm looking at low 70's for max under load temps. I honestly think shipping the 3000 series R5's with a Prism would've been an ideal set up.
I hav problem with my fan it gos form silet to jet engine. I dit put core voltage to 1.35 it only helped with temps from 53 to 43 C but fan still does the same thnig
@@TechIlliterate Yeah, i've replaced the stock cooler of my ryzen 5 3600 with this one, because it is perfect for my cpu and i love the things you can do with the lighting effects.
Just upgraded to an X53 from the Wraith Prism on my 3700x, getting it off was a headache and getting it installed when I built my PC a year ago I though I was going to break that clamp I guess for a stock cooler this is the best you can get anyway, unlike Intel ones that go directly into the trash.
Well, you have an ambient temp of 24°C which is hot! The optimal roomtemp is 21°C/22°C This means your temp results has to be calculated with minus 2°C.
While the testing isn't that rigorous by any means (compared to say GamersNexus), I actually found it to be really helpful instead of a drawback. It's a much more pragmatic way of answering the title's question without needing to use super complicated graphs or testing methods.
My personnal Experience with the Wraith Prism is that it performs even better if the Fan is set on 100%, it cools it off hard enough and makes the job done right in every extremly high intensity CPU use, including Mining. However it's noisy but if it's not a heavy criteria, it's simply perfect. imo i use a e34 Freezer duo with a NT-H1 thermal paste and my 3700x is enough cooled, i keep the other Wraith prism for any funny builds that dosen't involve noise complaining :)
Are you kidding? 65W?! That Wraith cooler was designed for 125W! The "Wraith-before-it-was-called-Wraith" AMD stock coolers (which are pretty much identical to the Wraith) came with the 125W Deneb, Thuban, Bulldozer and Piledriver CPUs. The actual "Named Wraith" came with the FX-8370 (also rated at 125W). Don't assume that just because something is stock means that it's crap because in this case, you couldn't be more wrong.
I dont know bro for a stock cooler its pretty dam good, even playing vidya games my temps never go over 60 and when doing nothing its at like 30, and its summer time here. Im just always pleaslently suprised ive not felt the need to get a better cooler in all the years ive had this 2700x. And im prob gonna keep it for my 5700x once it shows up.
Whilst not great for the chips they come with. Picking up one of these coolers spare for like £20 is a great option for lower chips. Threw one on a Ryzen 3 3100, and it overclocked straight to 4.5GHz at 1.25V and stays sub 60 with the fan turned down. So plenty of headroom for better chips. Like the 3600xt or 5600x
In Poland even tho electronics are expensive as hell (gigabyte 3060ti for like 700$ and it will go higher because of government new "smartphone tax" project lol) you can find new wraith prism for 15$, I used it on my Ryzen 5 3600XT and you are basically right, it should be included with 5s, even with the better iterations of ryzen 3, this cooler is actually made for these processors :p And i too do not know any person using wraith prism in their r7 or r9, however I was surprised how close it was to AIO in gaming... For low/mid range ryzens it's really a banger if you can get it cheap, on the wraith spirei was getting about 75-80 degrees in gaming, the drop is massive.
For that price you can't go wrong. The more I tinker with it the more I am impressed. I'd even say that it is absolutely sufficient for my 3700X. I'm glad it's working for you!
Between the inherent worry of leaks (pessimistic attitude what'ca gonna do) and the chore of cleaning the damn pump vs an air cooler that just needs simple dusting and nice RGB fan, I think I'm gonna stick with the Wraith Prism since' it's a nice in-bewteen compared to the Stealth and the giant block that is coolermaster. For now at least.... Thanks for helping me with that decision
I paid 37 usd for mine because i have a G2200, and couldnt be happier... remember its mostly copper, and thats fantastic! specially for the price, probably one of the BEST OEM CPU coolers ever. :D
I can't be the only one who hates mounting this thing...
man, X62 was a nightmare to mount, it took me 30 minutes to deal with those clips thing
@@Stweeema loose up both sides and slowly tightened it , that's how I mount that
For a Ryzen 5 3600 would it be good to spend $30 on the Prism?
@@HDErickGames Absolutely!
@BurninsHope it isn't as loud as my 2 year old dusty Wraith Stealth
Reason I use a wraith prism:
It came with my processor and I am to poor to buy a different one
That's a great reason lol It also works great.
@@MatthewHensley8304 wow. Really?
If I set the RGB to blue, that will lower temps, right?
You have the stuff. Nobody can argue that logic.
You need to set it to red, cause da red fanz go fasta
green gives more fps
RGB gives off all..\
and you will get more kills if you set it to red in exchange for heat
Nice video however you really didn't do a fair comparison. I have been building custom PCs now for 24 years both professionally and for my own use so I'd like to chime in.
You compared an OEM stock air cooler rocking a single 120MM fan with a $130 aftermarket closed-loop AIO liquid cooling system that has two 120mm fans to cool a radiator with a larger overall surface area. It's fairly common sense that the AIO was going to outperform the stock air cooler. I think what you missed was just how well the stock cooler matched up to the AIO!
The Cinabench scores were so close, it's really a wash. I'd have noted that Cinabench benchmark scores can easily drop if Windows is doing any background tasks (like downloading updates or simply reaching out to the Microsoft servers) so we should take those with a large grain of salt.
The temps in game under load were a difference of 1 degree C, and a 7 degree C temp difference of the VRM in the system stability test? That, to me, isn't worth $130 if I was simply replacing the Wraith Prism that came with my CPU, or if I was replacing the Wraith Spire on an AMD 5 Series and deciding between the Prism and the Kraken the $90 difference isn't worth it. Something as simple as having three 120mm fans blowing cool, outside air across the board will nullify that. I also found it amusing that people talk about fan 'noise' when most of the time they have headsets on, the sound cranked up and their cases have three 120mm fans on the front, a number of fans on their GPU and then their PSU fan and two AIO fans (or twin fans on their tower cooler).
I'm confused why you would recommend a tower cooler when you didn't do any comparison testing of any tower coolers (which would have been a more fair comparison, especially price-wise). You mention noise of this cooler but you recommended tower coolers with no mention of how loud they are, especially those which have dual fans. Your suggestions were also going off the assumption our cases have the clearance for a tower cooler.
I'd also point out, tower coolers look like anus and if someone was looking at a Wraith Prism, let's face it the Wraith Prism looks better than any of those. If we are upgrading from a Wraith Spire, chances are we want the AMD logo and the RGB (the Prism gives us the ability to separately change the logo, ring and fan LEDs so that's big if we are into case modding).
From my decades of experience, tower coolers have always been heavy things that move the center of gravity further away from your board, creating more physical load on the board. I have lost count of how many motherboards I've seen which have been damaged by a tower cooler.
We could get an AIO, but again we may not have a case we can mount the AIO radiator in or we may not want any liquid near our computers, we don't want to spend $130 or more on cooling our CPU when the gains are so tiny or we don't want to be spending $130 every 4 years to replace the AIO as they loose fluid (and that's common for AIOs)
The Kraken's pump is on radiator block which has always been a terrible design of AIOs. Pump failure is a common issue on this model. RGB connector is proprietary and you need their adapter to even be able to use it. A number of people have issues with the NZXT micro usb cable that plugs into a usb header on the motherboard and let's not get started on the NZXT Customer Service. AMD will happily, no-questions-asked, swap out a Wraith Prism if you have issues (I know as I've done this at my job multiple times).
I do like your video, don't get me wrong, but I disagree with the core message of the video.
thats reverse psychology to you. Impressive advertisement for sure, for that stock cooler.
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Awesome video! I'm glad I found your channel just by coincidence. Thank you.
Thanks for the comment :)
I think it is still a great value considering it is a free cooler. :D
Now while I do agree with most of what you said. The Wraith Prism just looks gorgeous and for gaming loads it'll never run that hot/loud. It's a decent cooler if you're after the looks.
It really does look good. I have used it quite a bit since I made this video. It has grown on me quite a bit. More than enough for the 3700X
Remember that the Wraith was originally made for 125W CPUs so it's not just pretty. I also have the Prism and it's still essentially the same as the AM2/AM2+/AM3 stock coolers (I call them "Wraiths before they were called Wraiths") with an RGB ring.
I've used this type of cooler for 25 years with three different CPUs rated at 125W without issue. These coolers are amazing. They may not keep your CPU insanely cool but they will keep the temps WELL within spec, even during all-core load benchmarks. Your CPU will NEVER feel the need to throttle. What more can you ask for?
I'm glad they decided to include coolers with the Ryzen 7's
The Wraith Prism being included was actually the reason i bought a 3700x. With enough case fans and a slight undervolt, the heat buildup issue becomes less of an issue
Have u noticed the reflection in 1:11????
Got a 3700X that included the prism as an upgrade from a 1600 with a wraith spire. The 3700X works OK with the Spire but I'm going to try it with the prism as soon as I can find (or replace) those plastic clip mount things. The 3700X has a 65 watt TDP, no need to go crazy with cooling.
The Prism has a slide switch which you can adjust fan speed to high, try it and make another video comparison.
I use it on my 2600X for 4.2 GHz all core OC. It idles at 27c and at 72c max load over time. Stunningly good temps that allowed me to beat the stock 3600 CPUZ single core score and virtually tie in multicore validated on site.
I am more impressed with this cooler everyday. It's been in my PC for the past week now. No complaints.
if you flip the Wraith Prism to mount from the bottom its so much easier, you can even remove the Wraith's fan and orient it so its not upside down. Its so easy this way.
Exactly what i was looking for info, thank you. Keep it up 👌.
All I needed to know on the gaming side of things for my rx 5600x!
This cooler does the job on a 5800x 4.5 , temps In gaming never reach 70c so I am more than happy
Damn though... 80 degrees? my Wraith rarely goes above 55C, either this is cuz my 3700x is only ever at 60% usage at most and i'm barely overclocking to 4.05mhz, OR it could be because i have a super high airflow case, my fans are manually adjusted a bit faster than the turbo setting, and my house is usually at 22 Celsius. Probably all of those reasons. Its why i'm pretty happy with the cooler for now.
My case was open but these temps are from pushing the cpu to 100p. Very good cooler.
Interesting point about the VRM.
Thinking about it. This is basically how fanheaters work. You blow air over something hot and get.. hot air. Which if directed on something will heat it up... Does it make sense to blow hot exhaust over something to cool it?
Yeah definitely. I am curious to see how it might perform in a different situation. Long gaming session with CPU temps around 40-60
i cant stop looking at the calico beard, not sure what i even watched but that calico beard
Funny I just got done building a spare gaming PC for my guests, and it has a Ryzen 7 3700X, And I stuck this cooler on it and man it keeps it around 53° C That was quite surprising in its performance. To the point now that I could probably lower its intensity because it is a pretty loud cooler.
But it looks great, and I wish they made case fans with that style of prismatic fan, when they get to a certain RPM, it's just mesmerizing to look into. The OEM is cooler master so I keep hoping that maybe I'll find the cooler master case fan equivalent, but they don't have any that I know of.
I had the Wraith Prism on my 3900X. It just wasn't enough to keep up with the processor, especially when I was doing video editing and encoding. I decided to upgrade to another air cooler, so after watching a lot of different reviews, I decided to go with the Scythe FUMA 2 based on it's performance for the price. It was a great upgrade and now my temps are quite a bit lower. I'll now be passing my Wraith Prism to my wife to use on her 5600GT. I'm pretty sure it'll be a nice improvement over the included "Stealth" cooler.
The noise thing didn’t really bother me because I always wear my headset anyways
With the right pair of headphones you won't even hear a jet engine. For those of us that like open back headphones it's a different story unfortunately :(
I have a Kraken X53 and a very similar config as yours, I put this PC together a couple of years ago, and my Kraken got very noisy, I tried a couple of methods but didn't work for me, so I switched back to the AMD that came with the CPU.
@Tech Illiterate - hi am very confused , i dont know what heat sink i have for my 3900x ? I do really hate and cant stand the ramping or the reving up and down and u and down, its bloody anoying.
I considered a new BEQuiet Coolermaster i think it is called. I was wondering water cooling, but then i just though not worth the money ? not sure? im stuck and not sure what to do.
Tower coolers are a great affordable option that work as well or better than an aio water cooler. For example the Nuctua NH-D15 performs better than most aio coolers. It is not cheap though.
bequiet will be a very formidable cooler
I was going to get a Ryzen 5 but I wanted the Wraith Prism cooler. So paid the extra for a Ryzen 7. The cooler is fine and most PC build videos tell you that unless your over clocking don’t waste the extra money. Your video is the only one that I have seen it go that high.
I did stress it to the MAX so it's not surprising.
3 years later i am running this cooler with a 7800X3D and my temps while gaming dont go above 65 degrees
I am from india & using ryzen 7 3800X for studying engineering software, but i never use 100GPU because of thermal throttle. Currently temp is 34-38c. Sunny day it goes upto 42. AMD stock cooler is not able to handle temperature well.
true, it is actually really good compares to its price( around 21$ currently), would like to upgrade to a x53 after i save up(cause it is around 7x-9x the price vs. prism in my area)
I am building a RYZEN 3600XT set up at the moment and I bought a used Prism off Fleabay to fit instead of the Spire that is supplied with it, I was looking at a standard 3600 processor but they keep going out of stock and price increases, so bought this one as it was near the same price at the time. I won't be doing any over clocking, and I will eventually fit a water loop, so this will more than keep me going until I do that.
did you test also the 6 pipes prism? it should be way better than the 4 pipes one
Honestly I want to get my hands on one. The One I have has grown on me quite a bit. It's a great cooler. Even for my 3700x.
If I do get one I will do some testing.
According to AMD, Wraith Prism cooler with 6 pipes are fake ones :)
I stilll have and use my 3700X (in 2022). I have it maxed out in PBO. And DDR4 3800MHz (CL16), and ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi). I scored *13,004* in *Cinebench R23*
Hi, I have been following your channel for some time, found by chance while looking for information on the AMD prism stock cooler. I can't find information on the small button on the heatsink where the usb-rgb plugs are. What is it for? Thanks and happy new year :)
There should be 2 grommets covering ports for the USB and RGB connections and a small switch that will change the MAX RPM of the fan. Low ~ 3000rpm and High ~ 3600rpm.
Thanks for watching.
@@TechIlliterate Thanks! For a ryzen 7 3700x do you recommend keeping it on High?
No I keep it on Low. Have never had an issue with temps.
Thanks for the review, is it worth using with the 5900x? got it for free with the cpu :)
Honestly I think it will work great. I have a 5900x now but I no longer have the Wraith so I can't test it but I would say yes. That cooler is very effective.
Actually, I bought a Ryzen 7 3800x, wich just broke up while playing and then the RMA sent me a Ryzen 7 5800x instead. I bought it bc I never had a highend processor and I just wanted to. I do not overclock it and I am using it prism wraith from the 3800x. It is so loud and sometimes it just annoys me so much that I really want to change it to water cooling.
I mean, that's probably the main reason I use an AIO water cooler. Can run the fans much quieter.
Hello sir first of all thanks for the comparison this is probably the only wraith prism vs 240mm aio in English haha. Anyway my question is I'm building a PC this week with R7 3700x + 3070 16gb 3200mhz ram and asus b550 motherboard. I play games at 1080p 240hz mostly csgo valorant and dota. I'm looking to stream these games and otherwise I might just play gta 5 or other to chill out. Also note that I'm not going to overclock at all! Should I go for a 240mm/360mm aio liquid cooler or should I stick with the wraith prism? The case I'm going to use is cooler master masterbox mb511 argb e ATX. Please let me know asap thanks in advance ❤️
240 vs 360 is only going to make a small difference in temp. I would presume no noticeable difference in performance. Since you're streaming the additional stress on the GPU will increase temperatures. The wraith will be fine as long as your case has good airflow. Personally I would buy an AIO for peace of mind.
Sorry for the late reply!
I've been enjoying the Wraith Prism Cooler, but seeing better thermals I'll change it, I care about my pc's longevity, but I've certainly enjoyed the RGB on it, I have it customized to chase counter clockwise, and it looks awesome ! I definitely enjoyed the video you answered my question here now 2021 thanks dude ! 💯
In 2008 I bought a Phenom II X4 940. It came with a stock "Wraith before it was called Wraith" AMD cooler. That CPU's TDP is 125W and the only cooler that I EVER used with it was that stock cooler. I then re-used it for my 965 and my FX-8350. Now, TWENTY-FIVE YEARS LATER, that Phenom II X4 940 CPU still works and (amazingly) so too does its cooler.
Don't let anyone scare you into thinking that using a stock cooler will reduce longevity because it clearly doesn't.
I have removed the stock Wratih fan (altogether with the plastic RGB housing) and jerryrigged in a "custom" 92mm fan with zip ties and two rubber something that I added for noise dampening and I've also used Kryonaut as heatpaste. So the cooler itself is quite good actually in my opinion, it's a shame that the rest of the budget went on an RGB housing instead of a slightly better fan, and I also don't like the mounting mechanism but believe me it still miles better than mounting the Cryorig H7. .D
Details for those insterested:
Used a Thermalright TR9225BW-1 fan specifically that I had laying around, but the point is: it wasn't something like a Noctua, but a very basic fan. Set a custom fan curve, so during "office use" it won't spin faster than a 1000RPM, and during gaming it goes to 1300RPM. You'd be suprised but it keeps my 3700X below 80°C (176°F) and at 1000RMP the fan is barely hearable, and at 1300RPM it's not louder than my GPU.
So I don't think it's a bad cooler, it actually has more heatpipes - 4 to be specific - than something like a Cryorigh H7 that has only 3, and which I have tried earlier but had very similar if not worse results - it was going up to 83-85°C (181-185°F) during Warzone.
I have also tried the Cooler Master MasterLiquid 240 which was obviously better but cost me something like $60 and was still peaking to 72°C (161°F) occaisonally.
Clever Mcgyvering. I like that.
I like the prism...so far...on 2 r7 5800X ...my issue on tower cooling is having all that stuff hanging off the motherboard. It's quiet and temps are about 50c running 24/7 and overclocking not a thing...how fast can Excel or cyberpunk go...Using a full atx case...mounting is NOT a treat and not to be done in dim light..read the instructions...then read them again.
If we were talking about a micro atx or half height...we'd have a different discussion.
I've been using AMD stock coolers for 25+ years and I've never had a problem even once. My Phenom II X4 940 still works as well as it did the day I bought it. It has never seen an aftermarket cooler of any kind.
When you think about it, why would AMD enclose a stock cooler that wasn't good? That would just be a waste of money for them.
Just got one for $30CAD from someone who got it for free with their Ryzen 7. I have an AIO cooler but I don’t do any heavy gaming, so I don’t see a need to have water in the build if it’s not necessary. Plus the RGB has to decrease temps a little? Pretty sure that’s how it works anyway.
Exactly. RGB always helps.
Can i put it with the ryzen 5 2600x?
Absolutely
seeing this thing to sell about 30$ in my country is it worth to buy for my 3300x? i think this thing looks sexy enough
If you think it looks good then buy it. It works!
I feel on the 3300X it'll be a great cooler. That chip isn't going to get near as hot as a Ryzen 7 or 9. I just gave my prism to my 14-year-old to better cool her Ryzen 3100 and I don't regret a thing. It looks good and keeps her 3100 plenty cool all while running near-silent due to the temps remaining so low. Much cooler in fact than the stock wraith stealth that came with her CPU, her temps dropped nearly 10-15 degrees on average. Not so much for my Ryzen 3900X though, I went aftermarket for my particular CPU. In fact, I never put the Prism on my 3900X so I couldn't tell you how well or bad the cooling is on my CPU however on a Ryzen 3 or 5 go for it!
Since when was Jonny Sins into PC gaming?
do you use nzxt cam to control the aio kraken?
i just read coments that it has a bugs reading ryzens temps
Yeha I don't trust the temp readings from CAM. I use HWiNFO for temps. Only use cam for my cooler RGB
More tests in gaming plz.
Same here. 3700x with iCUE H100i Elite Capellix
I appreciate your video. I am not a gamer although my computer is considered a gaming rig. I have the 3700X and would like cool it down a bit more. Thanks.
And I bet it's event still worth it with Ryzen 5xxx family too in 2020/2021!
100%
Can we change the direction of stock fan cooler?
You want it to go from suck to blow?
Yooo thats a good looking cooler
I got one for 3.5$. It was completely worth it for my ryzen 7. Which used to run on a wraith stealth. I could tell the difference immediately. It was as if the CPU breathed a sigh of relief after screaming forever every time I ramped up Forza or No mans Sky.
I had the cm 212 hyper, it burnt up within a few months. I returned it and got this instead. It is doing just as good.
Anyone have a video how to spray paint this? I want the wraith to be white for my setup. Thanks
I haven't seen that. I would suggest finding out how to disassemble and go from there. Maybe post a video of your success.
i just buy ryzen 7 3700 for game only, so i assume is it safe to use amd wraith prism right? since iam not overclock my pc
Absolutely.
The clips suck when installing it into the case, but I think it's MUCH easier though if you're constantly swapping fans, CPUs, motherboards, etc and installing it on the CPU outside of the case like I do with test builds. I regularly swap in my 2600x to update the BIOS on 450M motherboards that aren't updated for Ryzen 5000 CPUs and use the prism for this task. It's much easier to take apart for sure.
hi,prism is silent ?
I just picked one up for 20 bucks for my R5 3600. I mostly am just gaming so I'm glad I found this video I feel like for 20 bucks I didn't get a bad deal overall.
Absolutely perfect for your situation. Good find!
The prism on a 3600 is well worth it. Picked one up myself, on the cheap. My max temps dropped about 20c and my cinebench score increased by around 70 points straight out of the box. With a bit of tweaking and playing around, it's even better. I can run PBO + AOC mobo setting, hitting 4.2 on all or most cores boost for extended periods, and I'm looking at low 70's for max under load temps. I honestly think shipping the 3000 series R5's with a Prism would've been an ideal set up.
I hav problem with my fan it gos form silet to jet engine. I dit put core voltage to 1.35 it only helped with temps from 53 to 43 C but fan still does the same thnig
Have you changed the fan curve in the BIOS or with any applications?
@@TechIlliterate i went to windows settings and put 30% on minimum powrer process i think ist called and max on 99% and know it ist better
Was the fan set to HI ? there's a tiny switch on the side that lets you switch btetween LO and HI... It comes stock set as LO
Set to LO max ~3000rpm I believe the Hi setting is 3500
@@TechIlliterate Yeah, i've replaced the stock cooler of my ryzen 5 3600 with this one, because it is perfect for my cpu and i love the things you can do with the lighting effects.
@@KayoMichiels hi I've got same cpu with stock cooler I belive. Can I change to the wraith prism without taking my mobo out the case
@@roblaa3198 yes, the cpu is held in a seperate compartment from the cooler.
Just upgraded to an X53 from the Wraith Prism on my 3700x, getting it off was a headache and getting it installed when I built my PC a year ago I though I was going to break that clamp I guess for a stock cooler this is the best you can get anyway, unlike Intel ones that go directly into the trash.
Does it work with a ryzen 5
I believe it works with any AM4 or AM4+ board. So yes, it will work very well with Ryzen 5.
Very well, my 3600 consistently boosts to 4.0ghz+ with it
It works with any AM4 board.
@@Timmyval123 it’s the perfect cooler for the 3600
Well, you have an ambient temp of 24°C which is hot! The optimal roomtemp is 21°C/22°C This means your temp results has to be calculated with minus 2°C.
In tests cpu is stock or OC? In stock cpu, my be quiet dark rock pro 4 have 79-81c degrees in Aida fpu stress test, it’s good?
Stock 3700x. Yup that is a great temp for aida
@@TechIlliterate thx, right now oc my cpu
4,3ghz, 1,32v
cbr20 5100 pts 74c
Aida fpu stress test 82c
Ctr 2.0 said bronze sample
I fitted one a few days ago. Much easier than the several towers ive fitted.
I need help on start up my CPU cooler fan doesn’t turn on and then when I go to my home screen it starts to work
That is unusual. Typically fans will run near max RPM at start them go down to set values. Does it run during regular use?
While the testing isn't that rigorous by any means (compared to say GamersNexus), I actually found it to be really helpful instead of a drawback. It's a much more pragmatic way of answering the title's question without needing to use super complicated graphs or testing methods.
Thank you. Pragmatism is my goal even if I don't always reach it.
Can you use it for ryzen 5 3600x
Yes, a very good cooler for the 3600X
My personnal Experience with the Wraith Prism is that it performs even better if the Fan is set on 100%, it cools it off hard enough and makes the job done right in every extremly high intensity CPU use, including Mining. However it's noisy but if it's not a heavy criteria, it's simply perfect. imo i use a e34 Freezer duo with a NT-H1 thermal paste and my 3700x is enough cooled, i keep the other Wraith prism for any funny builds that dosen't involve noise complaining :)
Kind of a crappy comparison but still neat, I would have compared the prism to like an Nzxt T120 air cooler or noctua cooler
Way I look at it is the prism comes at no extra cost as 1 unit and performs, looks great but the water cooler is extra cost
You're right. Absolutely great value!
Great cooler made by Coolermaster
Can i control the lights using the usb cable? My mother board dont have rgb header
I believe you can control all 3 zones with the USB and the provided software.
Thanks man.
Awesome video dude! Hoping the Prism holds up with AMD's new Ryzen 7000 non-X CPUs, at 65W TDP it looks like there's still a chance!
Are you kidding? 65W?! That Wraith cooler was designed for 125W! The "Wraith-before-it-was-called-Wraith" AMD stock coolers (which are pretty much identical to the Wraith) came with the 125W Deneb, Thuban, Bulldozer and Piledriver CPUs. The actual "Named Wraith" came with the FX-8370 (also rated at 125W).
Don't assume that just because something is stock means that it's crap because in this case, you couldn't be more wrong.
I dont know bro for a stock cooler its pretty dam good, even playing vidya games my temps never go over 60 and when doing nothing its at like 30, and its summer time here. Im just always pleaslently suprised ive not felt the need to get a better cooler in all the years ive had this 2700x. And im prob gonna keep it for my 5700x once it shows up.
only real pc guys know FANS LAST LONGER THAN AIO AND WATER COOLER
Go to the 1:10 mark, you guys will thank me.
It's better then the stealth cooler my 5600x came with
Thank you!
Whilst not great for the chips they come with. Picking up one of these coolers spare for like £20 is a great option for lower chips. Threw one on a Ryzen 3 3100, and it overclocked straight to 4.5GHz at 1.25V and stays sub 60 with the fan turned down. So plenty of headroom for better chips. Like the 3600xt or 5600x
In Poland even tho electronics are expensive as hell (gigabyte 3060ti for like 700$ and it will go higher because of government new "smartphone tax" project lol) you can find new wraith prism for 15$, I used it on my Ryzen 5 3600XT and you are basically right, it should be included with 5s, even with the better iterations of ryzen 3, this cooler is actually made for these processors :p And i too do not know any person using wraith prism in their r7 or r9, however I was surprised how close it was to AIO in gaming... For low/mid range ryzens it's really a banger if you can get it cheap, on the wraith spirei was getting about 75-80 degrees in gaming, the drop is massive.
For that price you can't go wrong. The more I tinker with it the more I am impressed. I'd even say that it is absolutely sufficient for my 3700X.
I'm glad it's working for you!
Between the inherent worry of leaks (pessimistic attitude what'ca gonna do) and the chore of cleaning the damn pump vs an air cooler that just needs simple dusting and nice RGB fan, I think I'm gonna stick with the Wraith Prism since' it's a nice in-bewteen compared to the Stealth and the giant block that is coolermaster. For now at least....
Thanks for helping me with that decision
Yeah it's not a bad cooler and tbh it looks better than pretty well any air cooler I can think of.
I obsessed with that thing
thank you!
You're welcome!
i built some pcs and have some of them. i use it in my build with ryzen 2600 looks cool and it enough for oc
The thing is. Would you give yours to me? I would love to
With a dp of Henry from KCD I think you deserve it...
After I do some more experiments of course.
@@TechIlliterate i live in japan soo.....
Jesus Christ be praised.
@@rjmb4687 Well then next time I visit Japan I'll bring it haha
Jesus Christ be praised.
4 years before i purchased ryzen 7 3700x just for his stock cooler looks good😂
i bought it for my RYZN 5
I paid 37 usd for mine because i have a G2200, and couldnt be happier... remember its mostly copper, and thats fantastic! specially for the price, probably one of the BEST OEM CPU coolers ever. :D
I would agree 100p
Any box cooler is a priori not quiet.
at $0, nothing offers more bang for the buck.
The virgin Intel stock CPU cooler vs the Chad AMD Wraith Prism cooler
its chonky and good for a stock cooler that heatsink is stupidly good for a stock cooler
do ryzen 5 3600 come with it
No. It comes with the stealth I believe.
5:14 You should've tested Far Cry 5 so you have another pun in this video
Darn! Next time ;)
Can't wait to swap this 3090 for 3090 that supports a waterblock
What have you got?
1:10....I saw that
heatpipe design is dumb on this fan
@1:10-1:12 🤣🤣🤣🤣 iykyk
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"It lights up"