Catch wrestling and judo share more throws than you think!!!
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
- This video discusses Judo and catch wrestling throws.
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Val Childs:
instagram.com/cc_catchwrestling?igsh=N3BkMDMycjFlMm41
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He's not the leading authority on American Catch Wrestling.
He hasn't been in American Catch Wrestling long enough nor lived long enough to be more of an authority than Erik Paulson and Tony Cecchini.
@@SoldierAndrew I found it weird I never heard of him.
That's why I wanted a working link.
But yeah...
The two you mentioned are definitely legit as well as Joel Bane, Josh Barnett, Neil Melanson and David Petrone.
@@SoldierAndreweffing crab mentality in catch wrestling.
@@dhalav unfortunately it's necessary, plenty of people have tried selling some no-gi grappling style and saying it's "catch wrestling"
I trained Judo and Catch Wrestling. Very similar
Chadi, I tried hard to communicate this to a long time ago, until I just gave up. So much more to wrestling than singles, doubles and fireman's. Thank you.
I'm glad you gave you up trying to tell people what we already know
@@remshot1998 If you haven't practiced and been fully exposed to the entire gambit of an art or sport, you wouldn't know. Lord knows how much I've learned in 45 years of martial arts.
BUT FOR MOST AMERICANS WRESLTING IS JUST LEG ATTACKS AND THE ARMS ARE JUST IN THE WAY TO GRAB THE LEG
@@remshot1998 The matter is, it depends on who we'll consider to be "we" in this conversation. Of course, those immersed into wrestling (of one of the many different varieties), like you are, know about this. But I guess you wouldn't be combative with me if I'd say that many people, especially young and especially those, who get to know something here and there about different martial arts not even from participating in one of them, but often just by watching, and most of the times watching specifically MMA, they often get this oversimplified impression about what those different martial arts are. And guys like Chadi are doing a great work here, some, like Chadi himself, more in a narrow niche (although not as narrow as modern Judo goes, or even not constrained just by judo, if you watch many of his videos), some, like, for example The Modern Martial Artist - more in general, as for the common principles and theory and principles of combat shared by all martial arts. And it's really great and is something to be really appreciative of, in my opinion.
P.S. Just to clarify, I didn't try to cast shade on MMA in any way, in itself it's a great thing, and a martial art in itself, and actually not as young as its recent incarnation (talking about Pankration, Japanese Jiu-Jitsu or Jujutsu, Combat Sambo, some of old-school Chinese Kung Fu branches as well as some of old-school Karate branches, to name a few, all those were pretty much what we now call MMA)
@@remshot1998 Not everyone does know this. In fact Chadi regularly calls technique judo, even when the person performing the technique has not studied judo, but instead a different grappling sport.
Shout out to coach Val! I train under him. Glad to see him getting the recognition he deserves.
Having been to a handful of legit catch wrestling seminars, I can definitely vouch that many of the throws are the same. Obviously catch doesn’t have the same names as judo does, what we call an uchi mata they call a hank, but from what I’ve seen, many are the exact same throw with little technical differences.
can you do Catch wrestling & Sambo ? thank you
This is excellent. Really glad for the link to Val. I've been trying to learn more about Catch wrestling and shoot wrestling. This is awesome as always.
Legendary Catch Wrestling experts Erik Paulson and Tony Cecchini are the leading experts in American Catch Wrestling. Both still teach and they been in the art longer than any American living today.
@@SoldierAndrew Paulson's lineage goes to Wigan through Japan
@@SoldierAndrew they aren't leading experts in a disorganized community. But why would that matter? That's not even what's being discussed.
Legendary Catch Wrestling experts Erik Paulson and Tony Cecchini are the leading experts in American Catch Wrestling.
Both still teach and they been in the art longer than any American living today.
Man, where are you from? What are your background? As a person and as a Judoka?
At least for me, you became a face of Judo on UA-cam, "Hello, this is Chadi..." is the biggest "trademark", if you will, in Judo media right now.
I remember in one of your videos you mentioned where are you from but I can't remember to be honest... (balkans? baltics? somewhere near? excuse me if I'm totally wrong)
Judo is, in my personal opinion, the most beautiful martial art out there, and at the same time the most difficult to master, both technically an physically.
There are quite a few sensei left who still teach Judo with ground work and other older stuff, that were excluded in olympic judo. Kind of Japanese Jiu-Jitsu/Judo, with some of the striking even also, and with the whole variety of old-school Judo techniques. And you are the one, who spreads the word about Judo in all it's glory and richness.
Kudos!
Thank you so much, your words mean a lot to me 🙇🏻♂️ 🇫🇷
@@Chadi OK, France, I will remember from now on, friend
Chadi been the ambassador of Judo for some years now.
He received his black belt from the Kodokan in Japan.
He's from France and is of Armenian ethnicity.
That's why the rivalry between them was so natural. Both became international around the same time, similar approaches, lots of crossover. Kano encouraged judoka to wrestle and lots of wrestlers knew how to handle a jacket.
Is there a rivalry tho ? Every now and again you get some goofball wrestling stan(who likely hasn't trained a day in their lives or are a wrestling neophyte) online disparaging Judo....but for the most part I have found nothing but mutual repsect and a bit of cross polinationization between Wrestlers and Judoka.
@@thecollector6746 I was talking about the original rivalries, eg. Ad Santel vs the Kodokan
Lucky to train under a, Judo sensei, who was also expert at Sambo, and catch wrestling, and a college wrestler. He taught me to think no not in throws or moves, but in systems
wow who is this guy? if you don't mind telling us.
And who would that be?
If you think about it it's all family, grappling judo wrestling are all siblings cousins from eachother so they are all related so they will share similar traits
Judo , Wrestling, Jiujitsu, Sambo are all different grappling arts.
@@SoldierAndrew all of them are a form of "wrestling"
Eh, no I'll keep doing Tani Otoshi if I want to. lol. I like it.
😊😊😊😊
Trained judo for a yeah and a half now training freestyle wrestling.
Lots of the same movement patterns .
Дуже дякуэмо, ти красень😻👍👏👏👏
Підтримую, брате! 🤝✊👊
@@Pootie_Tang Слава Украине, Героям Слава 🤝💙💙💛💛
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@@user-og2vz6sn5v Героям Слава!
Героям Слава!
What do you think kano invented all these throws? Wrestling has been around 10,000 years
Remember not everything is BJJ for Petes sake, no gi is not jiu jitsu if you think about it is more like Catch and luta livre. BJJ stop thinking your the be all or end all
All grappling disciplines seem to do this. If you hang out on enough catch wrestling pages, they go on and on about how judo and BJJ got everything from wrestling. Judo pages think all wrestling and BJJ came from them. It’s annoying. That being said, there are plenty of informed grapplers of all communities that realize that disciplines can cross over, borrow from each other, or simply be discovered independently of each other without any need to “steal” moves from another style. I practice BJJ, but I’m fully aware it comes from judo and wrestling. At the end of the day, grappling is cool, regardless of style.
🧐🤔💯👌🤕🤔👊👍😎🙏
Shout-out to my coach Val. He's an amazing man and a more amazing coach 🤎🤎🤎
According to @GracieDerangementSyndrome, Catch wrestling is bullsh-do.
Some of the throws were not even the same. Are u sure he is a catch wrestler or a folkstyle wreetler who has learned a few subs?
It’s true catch wrestling. Which is the precursor to folk. You should watch for the love of catch it explains this. Folk is catch without submissions which they took them out in 1950.
@@desmondburton1773 yes, true. Folk is basically catch wrestling. Just different rules which sets them both apart
@@michaltaylor8926 agreed so it’s weird that some catch wrestlers think they shouldn’t have to wrestle.