The real reason why Judo banned leg grab is because Wrestlers will just flood in and dominate the whole thing. And then Judoka will adapt and re learn Judo leg grab techniques as well to compete with wrestlers, and now we have basically Wrestling in a gi with limited newaza. Sport Judo is fine, it's not like the IJF banned people from practicing the banned stuffs and used those techniques somewhere else.
@@a-z2928 expection : ultimate grappling freedom Reality : all the years training throw and takedown wasted because players just start pulling guard and butt scooting all over the place
Once again, bravo CHADI for the content. My guess for the reverse seoi nage is the lack of control with this technique for protecting the head. 7:32, 7:39, 8:38, 8:51 are good examples where uke cannot do anything but to land on the head. The weight is on the same side of the unusable arm(the arm and the shoulder are cought and unmovable ). Therefore the head takes the full power of the throw.
That point came out discussing with athletes, but if that's the case what can we say about sode-tsuri, ura-nage, yoko-gake, drop seoi or even japanese style ko-uchi-makikomi? So i'm absolutely NOT convinced by that explanation and i'd like to have a better answer from IJF.
@@IzunaDestruction Yes Yoko Gake is quite a destruction of the head if it is done correctly. But at this point it was a guess. Maybe we will have futur explanaitions by the IJF
A lot of maybes but the rule should be based on injury rates not in what could happen and Chadi says it right, show us the injury rate or give us an explanation why. This constant rule changing every year is killing the sport.
It's noteworthy that unconventional grips are now acceptable as long as it is considered to be preparing for an attack Previously, if you didn't attack immediately, you were penalized I think this ain't a small change
damn thats really good and should be massive, and could be a decent balance between the attractive judo fj, not unreasonaby, want to promote, and realism and flexibility
Am wondering how they(referees) will interpret what Adams said: "time will be allowed to prepare for an attack". How much time?? So how are they being instructed to evaluate "preparing for an attack" vs. "immediate"?
After watching the reverse Seoi Nage, I am guessing It has to do with some opponents hands or fingers getting stuck and also there a chance it could turn into a variation standing ude garami. In the video you can see at (8:23) the athlete showing pain holding her wrist. who knows maybe athletes reported injuries with this throw.
Hi chadi , i agree with all your points and i want to add that i didnt really see a move towards better newaza which disappointed me . Changes pace is very slow unfortunately.
@@eliasschneeberger1337 only if your toes point away from your uke. If you go into the runners stretch, pointing your toes parallel to your uke, knee bent toward floor, you're fine. It is still dangerous though, moreso than seoi.
I would say . . every technique, that put your opponent on your back, have a risk. It's a do or do not situation. You have to be certain, commitment, before doing it. But it's also why it's difficult to capture a Judo practitioner from the back side. Other martial art such as BJj, seems more potent, because there's no 'must attack' rules. You can observe 'indefenetly', looking for the right moment, before attacking.
I don't think so ,When I was practicing with my opponent who was practicing reverse seio nage,I have a strong feeling that this is a dangerous move and may cause injury to my arm
For reverse seoi nage, the logic behind it from the IJF's perspective was that the throw is " too risky " since they registred a high occurence of falls on the back of the head ... At least that's what my sensei told me ... That's kinda sad
Indeed ! On top of that, the big paradox is that IJF want to make the sport more spectacular at one hand, and on the other they banned a technique that is pretty spectacular in my opinion ( at least I was personally enjoying doing it ).
I get what you're saying but there's already rules around lack of control in throwing and landing someone on their head. A complete ban seem very over the top
Reverse seoi nage is more of a takedown than a throw. It rarely works well and looks sloppy as heck, even when executed in a shiai by a world-class judoka. You probably haven't seen accidents caused by reverse seoi nage at high level competitions, but I've seen people getting a concussion from being thrown with reverse seoi nage in low-level competitions. The uke seems to almost always land hard on their head, often sideways, risking severe neck injuries.
There are two forms of Judo. 1. Competition IJF Judo. 2. The complete art of Kodokan Judo. Many clubs only teach the IJF Competition Judo but Kodokan Judo clubs teach the complete art. Kodokan Judo isn't watered down.
@@SoldierDrew there's no clubs that teach the complete judo near me and I wouldn't travel miles just to learn it either. Glad I packed it all up and became a drug free body builder instead
I disagree with the counter technique it might not be very spectecular, but it's still a throw and not easy to do. Also the way neil adams said it it can't easily be distinguished with stepping over an uchi mata, which is imo 100% a throw. Throwing the opponent by giving in isn't this the whole point of judo?
I agree completely, also on the one arm leg grab standing (you forgot Sukui nage). But I would also like to add that if you don't land in a dominant position or remain standing, it should not be an Ippon. I would even argue for a reinstatement of the Yoko to avoid points inflation. Finally, reinstate non-twisting leg locks carefully. Perhaps it should only be allowed in high-level tournaments or at some belt level. And personally, I preferred the old osaekomi rules, 30 seconds and you can break the pin by moving off the mat. Simply because it gives more incentive to go for a submission. And drop the crap about not allowing "flying" subs.
I love Judo, but few things make me hate it more than throws where the thrower intentionally rolls over/gives up his back. Also I agree wit hyou, there is no reason to allow an armbar but not a knee bar.
I think they ban it, for the simple reason that there are players who abuse it too much of the movement an example is wiliam Lima brazil vs Shikalizada , It is also a movement it almost always has a pause when it comes to land and it is what the IJF dont wants, They want explosive movements without pauses. I still disagree with the decision. ☹️
The reverse Seoi Nage is throwing with an arm lock 9 out of 10 times.the throw comes off because uke must lay down or injure his arm. If his grip doesn’t come off and b comes trapped his arm is is forced into an Ude Garami position. That’s throwing with an armlock.
Look at your reverse seoi nage highlights and count the amount of times uke is dropped directly on the point of his shoulder or head. Also look at the way uke's knee is twisted. That's why. I'm not sad to see it go. The first time I tried it I knew it wouldn't last. I DO agree though that the IJF should be more transparent about the reasoning for any rule changes.
That doesn’t really hold up against the data though.. there hasn’t been any documented, lasting damage done from the technique. I’d rather, if the IJF were making their determination based on that, they cite what survey or study they are using. The landing on the head also isn’t really the tori’s fault, more uke’s for not falling properly. A better rule change would be to shido using a stiff neck to resist a through on the ground, I.e. in the same vein as the head diving uchi mata decision this round.
On roll-over counters it seems now uchi mata has lower risk now, I might start to practice uchi mata to guard pull roll. 6:00 so I can throw a sode and end it with a leg grab as back on 2012 ? edit: 6:35 you can see the pain on his face...
I don't understand one thing about the leg grab rule. In the video, Neil Dams says leg can be grabbed at the end of the throw "if opponent is in newaza". But in the fighting films video you showed he sat down and rolled over the opponent with his elbow on his leg while opponent was still STANDING. So how is this going to be legal? Can someone explain??
He said after a pause in the movement "...gripping under the belt is a newaza action" implying that it is a ground technique and means that the competitors are now in newaza (where grabbing below the belt is legal). However, it is not a throwing technique so it will not score.
Totally agree with all you said. I don't fine an explanation of why forbid the Korean Seoi... it was something marvelous. Could you make a video explaining why the legs grabs where forbidden? I never understood that, not the real reason at least... and i didn't knew judo when it was allowed. Best regards from D.R.🇩🇴
As you mention, Chadi, I'm unaware of any notable safety issues, with reverse or Korean Seoi nage. The last one listed with head to the ground, makes sense, as I can see potential terminal injury occurring... but reverse seoi nage?? Not so much. Shido?? Really?? Why??
Totally agree with you Chadi. Do you think than the Koga Sode with the hand helping the throw will be allowed? This ruleset are so confusing and too interpretative that in local tournaments and minor competition will happen a war with referee vs coach. I genuinely think that we need an upgrade in Federation: IJF is doing too much politics and they are transforming this sport in something else for new people. They want to attract more people but they are leaving alone those who loves really this discipline.
Totally agree. Also, about the Koga sode style, i was thinking about that as well... but i think it's likely a NO since the hand touch should now be allowed only in the terminal phase of the throw, like in helping a rollover, while Koga used the hand on the leg from start to finish.
The comments section on the IJF video was so negative. I feel like there are now a lot more routes to newaza now because before they were giving points for turnovers I was hoping you would talk about the gripping changes. It seems to me like they formally legalized collar and lapel while leaving other grips unchanges?
Hello Chadi. I think the reverse seoi nage was banned because... Just like judo changed after leg grabs were banned. The reverse seoi nage of all throws had the potential to change judo. It is so effective and due to the simple grip, Could it be possible that competative judo could turn into a competition to see who can execute reverse seoi nage first. It is a tricky throw that can come off either side, to the front or to the back which makes it very difficult to defend. It is so effective and it is tricky. I think Kano Sensei said the original jujitsu was was a mixed bag of tricks. So he eliminated the tricks in his creation of judo. judo today should not have such tricks. One should be able to defend a throw in a way that is fair and shows the ability to fairly defend or counter. Is there a counter to reverse seoi nage? If not, it is a trick throw. I can only guess on this... the statistics would show the use and effectiveness in scoring of reverse seoi nage trending upwards perhaps passing even uchi mata or ura nage by 2024 or 2028. Should a tricky throw that is not logical to defend be the flagship tequiqe of judo? I think this is why the IJF said no. Thank you.
The reverse seoi naga is judos gift to the other combat sports wearing a gi top. Definitely a judo in invention. Credit is due. To the reverse seoi nage judo says, "Good luck and best wishes as you continue your trip around the world."
"In short, resisting a more powerful opponent will result in your defeat, whilst adjusting to and evading your opponent's attack will cause him to lose his balance, his power will be reduced, and you will defeat him. This can apply whatever the relative values of power, thus making it possible for weaker opponents to beat significantly stronger ones. This is the theory of ju yoku go o seisu." If you look at Judo Techniques through the eyes of this quote, and others like it, you can understand why a lot of these rules are being implemented. Olympic Judo has lost so much of the feel of what Judo was meant to be. In that reverse Seoi, it isnt a counter, it doesn't rely on movement, and the only reason why it works at all is the mutual build/weight of the contestants. In more then half of the examples you showed not only did Uke land on his head, but so did Tori. Can you imagine doing this on the street and knocking your own self out in the process of the throw? I could go on with dozens of quotes to illustrate why reverse seoi doesn't embrace the spirit of Judo but ill leave it with this one " In randori we learn employ the principle of maximum efficiency even when we could easily overpower an opponent." There is no "efficiency" in that technique only overpowering. In fact many of the applications of Judo seen in competition have lost this spirit and for me, i applaud the attempt to return to it.
I Don’t agree, reverse seoi could be defended and then countered by Ura Nage. In Aikido you can do a similar thing in Irimi Nage, (obviously not in judo) but I don’t see any problem to ban it.
@@clopperz don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it can't be defended against. Nor am I saying it's not an effective technique, it's the idea that the technique may be effective but is not necessarily within the spirit of what makes judo waza. If you just want any technique that works go to MMA, if you want to focus on newaza go to BJJ. If you want even more hunched over leg sprawling ground rolling activities go into collegiate wrestling. I think the point of banning it is that the technique might be effective but isn't what the judges are looking for when evaluating good judo if that makes sense. I think they're trying to make sure that judo is different than the other grappling arts and so limiting to techniques that only express the way of judo.
the reverse seionage cause a lot of wrist injuries, especially from opposite grip uke's hands on the lapel hand gets trapped...and possible elbow joint locks as well. so it just going a long with the no joint locks while throwing rule...the magnitude of injuries is not great but very likely...
The only safety reason I can see for the reverse seoi is the tori can drive their head into the mat, but that is the only reason I could see. And I'm not sure if I've heard of any injuries from it either.
I wish they would add back leg grabs(by hand/arm grip) if initiated by lifting with one’s own foot leg or foot to raise opponents leg. After the leg grab rule I had no interest in practicing that way.
It has been said - Ignorance is Bliss . I'm blissfully ignorant of what I do not know regarding new age Judo, Jui Jitsu and other Asian arts modified by Caucasians . Have a great 2022 Chadi & everyone .
English is not my native lenguage. I don't get the decision number 5. Can someone enlighten me. If tori do a seio nage and uke do an daki wakare, it is not a score? Am i right? Thank you
could you make a video on the new ne waza throw rule for throws. is that kata guruma legal? to further add to that no rollover counter rule they should allow a single type of leg takedown like te guruma
since the leg grabs were banned people have found new and creative ways to throw (italian kata guruma, reverse seoi, mollaei kata guruma, yoko wakare etc) which i think is amazing. im worried that if they so easily ban something as iconic as reverse seoi nage who knows what other techniques are next on the ban list. i have some predictions for the future.
@@jim_t2928 my goal was to make some sort of judo technique library on youtube if that makes sense, where people could watch any technique and how it is actually done in competition, (when i started this was actually pretty rare, there were only tai otoshi, uchi mata, seoi nage compilations lol) so by now i did most of the techniques that i wanted to highlight and took a long break. however i was planning on coming back eventually, thanks for asking.
Judo has the potential to be one of the most complete grappling arts there are, but is held back by archaic and out of touch committees. This art is in dire need of someone like Eddie Bravo to revolutionize the art and forget about the rule set to focus on what made judo a great art. The whole no attacking the legs when is practically the second half of the art or banning moves that are widely used in the community make absolutely no sense
I don't see a safe way to train reverse seoi nage personally. For normal seoi nage Tori holds the sleeve as Uke breakfalls which helps Uke land safely 👍
Man, I love Judo and am still thinking about restarting, but the crippling of allowed techniques is quite annoying. First banning of morote gari, now the reverse seoi nage... First time I saw it, I immediately wanted to try that one out...
Thank you for this video, Chadi. Even though I should consider learning Judo, but I want to learn Hapkido due to throws, kicking and joint locking and joint manipulations. I only taught myself one Judo move that I learned by watching WWE seeing Tazz as a wrestler at the time. Tazz is a Judoka and the only Judo technique by watching him is my favorite that I always use, the Tazzmission aka the Kata-Ha-Jime and I do it to my brother all time. That's the only Judo technique that I keep practicing is the Tazzmission.
@@scarred10 well it actually worked when I did it on my brother and he didn't have a jacket. I literally did the Tazzmission both on the ground and from standing up to take him to the ground until he tapped out.
Unless your hapkido school does sparring for the throwing/takedown element go with judo. I do both jujitsu (which i think is what hapkido is based on) and judo - i’ve learned the same throws in both, but judo is where I learnt to do them on someone that’s resisting.
I think they banned the reverse seoi nage because it could cause injury to uke's wrist, especially in kenka yotsu situation. Uke often falls down because the arm gets turned in a way that you either roll with it or you get your wrist/elbow injured. It also could set a bad example for the youngsters. For the political reasons, i dont think thats the case like for leg grabs back in the day, cause its a throw that not only coreans use succesfully. Personally i think it's an ugly throw most of the times, spin drop and pray you get a point
I think reverse seio nage is banned, because it is not a Judo technique. It comes from Daito Ryu and it's derivatives namely Hapkido. It is essentially a lapel grip shiho nage.
Happy new year Chadi! I like these new set of rules! This "reverse seoi nage" is dangerous cause you dont control uke well. First time a friend asked to throw me with it, I hit my toe so hard that I had it injured for many months...and I did not resist the throw. Its like throwing uke without any regard to his/her safety. Not only that but its easier to throw with it than the seoi nage. Its like a dark side of the Force technique, its a shortcut to destructive power hahaha
Looks like Shihonage/otoshi in some the examples. Cool technique, sucks it's going to be banned. If it's not causing injury I don't see the problem with it. But I'm not a competitive Judo player. I could see how the red belts would be concerned about it causing shoulder injury. I watched it again and it does make me think it's Shihonageish,lol
I believe the reverse/korean seoi nage can be dangerous because the uke lands on their head in several of the clips here i.e. safety issue. Although not really my thing, this is a very cool throw.
I dont like rollover counter decision as it was preventing bad entries such as uchi mata, seoi nage... And decision 6 is kinda alright, i almost broke my friends elbow and shoulder while doing reverse seoi nage, his arm got locked in my kimono, he didnt have any injury but it is still scary. It isnt that scary for seniors...
In my opionion based on this sode tsurikomi goshi should be banned aswell. I hope they bring back te guruma aswell as morote gari ( standing only, with upwards trajectory) and single leg ( from standing ,grabbing leg and lifting and tripping the other leg). That would make judo great again!
Seoi-nage fellas got an important variation in attack banned, uchi-mata fellas got a good defense against them made useless. In videogame terms, seoi got nerfed, uchi-mata got boosted. So... how are we supposed to defend against uchi-mata now? No leg grab, no roll behind... only sukashi and uchi-mata-gaeshi still stand, which are incredibly hard to pull off against a skilled judoka, while those who love seoi-nage just got more predictable by losing the possibility to attack on the outside. This is madness. By the way, you have not touched the new rule on kumi-kata. That's another utter nonsense that i think will not turn out to be a good idea and we will see a ton of hansoku-make and maybe even more injuries from attacks started from bad grips.
About Decision # 6: I can't understand why the IJF has banned the Reverse Seoinage. They should explain, give a logical reason and a clear answer, what criteria has been used to penalize it? The statistics do not show that it is a dangerous technique. There are no reasonable statistics to support this decision, judokas are not injured (both when applying it and when being thrown). Since Judo was created, Morote gari existed and up to 8 years before the Beijing Olympic Games, the leg grip became very popular as a very effective form of throwing, most countries used it and won many gold medals. With this, after Beijing it was banned and with it its variants disappeared (Kata guruma, kuchiki taoishi, kubisu gaeshi and others), the IJF said that the Kata guruma was very confused with the throws of wrestling and Sambo and was lost the judo part, I remember that was the explanation. Many years ago (since the 70s) the Kani-Basami (flying scissors) had already been banned because it could spoil the legs of the uke, there was even a very popular case in Japan in the 80s that involved Saito and Yamashita (who was injured)....But to prohibit and penalize the Reverse Soinage, it seems to me that it does not make sense, an explanation with credible statistics and easy to verify is necessary.
I think the whole points of it all is safety and also judo back to real original fighting .. not white washing of the sport technique. Which is what all the banded were .
Banning Kani Basami (Scissor Takedown) and Flying Armbar is understandable, but banning LEG GRABS entirely? IJF needs to be replaced. They are not doing Judo any good.
The first few rules are a no brainer . The throw from newaza rules that allowed the BS were a mistake . I don’t understand what is meant by the leg grab rule, can I now do kouchi makikomi ? It’s a very confusing rule . They should man up and admit the terrible error of banning leg grab techniques and restore respect to judo as an art. We do not want it to end up like tai kwon do or Olympic karate, which is where they have been headed. Reverse seoi has always seemed dangerous to me but I don’t understand how it works, and from a viewer perspective it was an amazing technique so that is really sad . The viewer in me also things that Kani basami should be allowed though (and all leg grab techniques). I find the banning of some but not other irrational , how can you differentiate between the safety of reverse seoi and sode tsuri when the arms are bound up ? Sode is just if not more dangerous.
I'll tell you what fellow Judo enthusiasts before we set ourselves up for more disappointment in the Judo world why don't we just rename the art while we're ahead and call it THROW-DO! Because it seems that it is becoming nothing but ridiculous throws and sooner or later it will only be a total of maybe 3 or 4 throws you are allowed to use and that will be that! R.I.P. JUDO 1880-2021😞 welcome to THROW-DO 2021-?
i see after years of not having been in a Judo Tournament, that alot of the Judo and stuff like Decision 6 Seoi Nage, look like an updated Judo move, that isn't traditional and that's what i'm all about, True traditional Judo
Reverse Seoi Nage is banned? That’s completely insane, and to add insult to injury, the IJF didn’t even explain why. Hopefully there’s a very practical and logical reason, but like brother Chadi said, I can’t fathom why 🤷♂️
Why they always make new rulles just like karate olympische rulles..... they have nothing too do with a great martial arts. Look at other martial arts where rulles on rulles distroy the art and in a few years everything is lost and the martial arts is weak. Greetings from the Netherlands
There are two forms of Judo. 1. Competition IJF Judo. 2. The complete art of Kodokan Judo. Many clubs only teach the IJF Competition Judo but Kodokan Judo clubs teach the complete art. Kodokan Judo isn't watered down.
This is getting ridiculous! Is it even worth practicing Judo at this point? Seriously I love the art of Judo but they are stripping it of everything that is appealing as well as effective for self-defense! They took away leg attacks and now they have taken out another technique from the standing position seriously what is next for Judo no ne-waza! Honestly why does everything have to be revolved around the ijf? Screw the goddamn ijf they are boring! All the traditional Judo Dojos that honor jigoro kano original ideas and teach complete original Judo curriculum should form their own organization or at least provide a worldwide location search of dojos that exist that way outside of the unappealing suffocation of IJF! There are countless people worldwide that are interested in Judo for self-defense only and do not wish to compete but their self defense minded goals are taken away because of a limited minded Olympic Committee? Absolutely ridiculous
@@baekho10 well I'll be honest with you my friend I don't really give a rat's ass about Taekwondo I think it is a lousy dogshit martial art Style that is limited to nothing but fencing with your feet and executing unrealistic fancy pants style kicking techniques that are very high-risk low percentage success rate techniques! Judo on the other hand is a much deeper rooted martial arts tradition and it breaks my heart to see it being stripped from all of the useful techniques that have taken years to develop and perfect from the sweat Blood and Tears of Olympic and non Olympic athletes! Judo originally was an all-encompassing very effective modified style of traditional jiu-jitsu that had effective takedowns using leg tackles and upper body throwing as well as Solid Ground grappling that gave birth to BJJ and believe it or not even had striking techniques and it was still pretty awesome to witness in the 1960s when it started in the Olympics and every few years they just keep hacking away at it and I just don't understand what this new rule system is all about? I thought taking away leg tackles was ridiculous but this is absurd! I pray to God that ne waza will remain always a part of Judo! On a closing note I seriously hope that there are Judo dojos that still exists that teach all the traditional kodokan syllabus techniques because too many coaches are way too concerned about these Olympic policies
There are two forms of Judo. 1. Competition IJF Judo. 2. The complete art of Kodokan Judo. Many clubs only teach the IJF Competition Judo but Kodokan Judo clubs teach the complete art. Kodokan Judo isn't watered down.
Andrew my friend I think you misunderstand me? I know that kodokan is not a watered-down system and I was expressing the fact that I am having a hard time finding clubs that teach the old and complete method of the art. What I was getting at is that I am not interested in that I J F Sport and I am frustrated because that seems to be all that is offered everywhere! now on top of that these new rule change's make it even worse! It's basically just like trying to find a classic Gracie family Brazilian Jiu Jitsu self-defense Academy but all you can seem to locate is ibjjf garbage sport jiu jitsu and it is very frustrating when you're looking for authentic martial arts and all you get is the half as sport version! On a serious note I hope that more traditional jigoro kano kodokan schools remain available to students and not become wiped away clean by ijf Olympic nonsense.
New Rules, heck, I've met old school Japanese teachers who are still upset about the inclusion of Blue Gi.
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lol, the blue gis look so nice tho. i find other colours that bjjers use tacky, but blue gis look so sick
@@internetenjoyer1044 true..I always dreamwd of Buying A Blue one. But before that I got injured and Now totally out
As well they should be. It's idiotic.
Bring back old school judo with leg grabs and more newaza please.
The real reason why Judo banned leg grab is because Wrestlers will just flood in and dominate the whole thing. And then Judoka will adapt and re learn Judo leg grab techniques as well to compete with wrestlers, and now we have basically Wrestling in a gi with limited newaza. Sport Judo is fine, it's not like the IJF banned people from practicing the banned stuffs and used those techniques somewhere else.
Old School is still out here if one knows where to look .
Do BJJ
@@a-z2928 expection : ultimate grappling freedom
Reality : all the years training throw and takedown wasted because players just start pulling guard and butt scooting all over the place
@@jaketheasianguy3307 good luck finding butt scooters on the ultra heavy division
Once again, bravo CHADI for the content. My guess for the reverse seoi nage is the lack of control with this technique for protecting the head. 7:32, 7:39, 8:38, 8:51 are good examples where uke cannot do anything but to land on the head. The weight is on the same side of the unusable arm(the arm and the shoulder are cought and unmovable ). Therefore the head takes the full power of the throw.
Huge input yours, and great appreciation👏🏼
That point came out discussing with athletes, but if that's the case what can we say about sode-tsuri, ura-nage, yoko-gake, drop seoi or even japanese style ko-uchi-makikomi?
So i'm absolutely NOT convinced by that explanation and i'd like to have a better answer from IJF.
@@IzunaDestruction Yes Yoko Gake is quite a destruction of the head if it is done correctly. But at this point it was a guess. Maybe we will have futur explanaitions by the IJF
Maybe the arm of the uke also get caught and traped in over supination. Is quite common.
A lot of maybes but the rule should be based on injury rates not in what could happen and Chadi says it right, show us the injury rate or give us an explanation why. This constant rule changing every year is killing the sport.
Banning the reverse seoi nage is one of the stupidest decisions of the IJF. We need a revolution in the federation or create another one.
It's noteworthy that unconventional grips are now acceptable as long as it is considered to be preparing for an attack
Previously, if you didn't attack immediately, you were penalized
I think this ain't a small change
damn thats really good and should be massive, and could be a decent balance between the attractive judo fj, not unreasonaby, want to promote, and realism and flexibility
Am wondering how they(referees) will interpret what Adams said: "time will be allowed to prepare for an attack". How much time?? So how are they being instructed to evaluate "preparing for an attack" vs. "immediate"?
Now I'm looking forward to see what future
Judo matchs are gonna be like.
Thank you for sharing ☺️.
After watching the reverse Seoi Nage, I am guessing It has to do with some opponents hands or fingers getting stuck and also there a chance it could turn into a variation standing ude garami. In the video you can see at (8:23) the athlete showing pain holding her wrist. who knows maybe athletes reported injuries with this throw.
Hi chadi , i agree with all your points and i want to add that i didnt really see a move towards better newaza which disappointed me . Changes pace is very slow unfortunately.
7.55 tai otoshi. Why don't you like it. It's one of the best tool against stif arm / beginners defense.
Very risky for the knee
@@eliasschneeberger1337 You are doing it wrong 😁
@@eliasschneeberger1337 only if your toes point away from your uke. If you go into the runners stretch, pointing your toes parallel to your uke, knee bent toward floor, you're fine. It is still dangerous though, moreso than seoi.
Tai otoshi IS the typical citrus belt throw
I would say . . every technique, that put your opponent on your back, have a risk.
It's a do or do not situation. You have to be certain, commitment, before doing it.
But it's also why it's difficult to capture a Judo practitioner from the back side.
Other martial art such as BJj, seems more potent, because there's no 'must attack' rules. You can observe 'indefenetly', looking for the right moment, before attacking.
The Japanese hate that the Koreans are winning. That's why IJF said no to reverse seio nage.
I don't think so ,When I was practicing with my opponent who was practicing reverse seio nage,I have a strong feeling that this is a dangerous move and may cause injury to my arm
For reverse seoi nage, the logic behind it from the IJF's perspective was that the throw is " too risky " since they registred a high occurence of falls on the back of the head ... At least that's what my sensei told me ...
That's kinda sad
Injuries also happen from Osoto Gari and Makikomis. Judo is a sport with risk of injuries.
Unless it’s at the same level of Kani Bassami seems silly.
Indeed ! On top of that, the big paradox is that IJF want to make the sport more spectacular at one hand, and on the other they banned a technique that is pretty spectacular in my opinion ( at least I was personally enjoying doing it ).
I get what you're saying but there's already rules around lack of control in throwing and landing someone on their head. A complete ban seem very over the top
sounds silly considering how many people get knocked out getting thrown with ura nage or osoto gari.
Reverse seoi nage is more of a takedown than a throw. It rarely works well and looks sloppy as heck, even when executed in a shiai by a world-class judoka. You probably haven't seen accidents caused by reverse seoi nage at high level competitions, but I've seen people getting a concussion from being thrown with reverse seoi nage in low-level competitions. The uke seems to almost always land hard on their head, often sideways, risking severe neck injuries.
Judo is getting too watered down and they wonder why people don't want to learn it anymore
There are two forms of Judo.
1. Competition IJF Judo.
2. The complete art of Kodokan Judo.
Many clubs only teach the IJF Competition Judo but Kodokan Judo clubs teach the complete art.
Kodokan Judo isn't watered down.
@@SoldierDrew there's no clubs that teach the complete judo near me and I wouldn't travel miles just to learn it either. Glad I packed it all up and became a drug free body builder instead
This is indeed good news! Thank you for sharing & Happy New Year everyone! Stay safe & healthy. 🙏
I disagree with the counter technique it might not be very spectecular, but it's still a throw and not easy to do. Also the way neil adams said it it can't easily be distinguished with stepping over an uchi mata, which is imo 100% a throw. Throwing the opponent by giving in isn't this the whole point of judo?
Reverse SEO nage, could it be for the neck? I agree no reason to ban it, although I find that out is rarely an ippon
I agree completely, also on the one arm leg grab standing (you forgot Sukui nage). But I would also like to add that if you don't land in a dominant position or remain standing, it should not be an Ippon. I would even argue for a reinstatement of the Yoko to avoid points inflation. Finally, reinstate non-twisting leg locks carefully. Perhaps it should only be allowed in high-level tournaments or at some belt level.
And personally, I preferred the old osaekomi rules, 30 seconds and you can break the pin by moving off the mat. Simply because it gives more incentive to go for a submission. And drop the crap about not allowing "flying" subs.
I love Judo, but few things make me hate it more than throws where the thrower intentionally rolls over/gives up his back. Also I agree wit hyou, there is no reason to allow an armbar but not a knee bar.
I think they ban it, for the simple reason that there are players who abuse it too much of the movement an example is wiliam Lima brazil vs Shikalizada , It is also a movement it almost always has a pause when it comes to land and it is what the IJF dont wants, They want explosive movements without pauses. I still disagree with the decision. ☹️
The reverse Seoi Nage is throwing with an arm lock 9 out of 10 times.the throw comes off because uke must lay down or injure his arm. If his grip doesn’t come off and b comes trapped his arm is is forced into an Ude Garami position. That’s throwing with an armlock.
Look at your reverse seoi nage highlights and count the amount of times uke is dropped directly on the point of his shoulder or head. Also look at the way uke's knee is twisted. That's why. I'm not sad to see it go. The first time I tried it I knew it wouldn't last. I DO agree though that the IJF should be more transparent about the reasoning for any rule changes.
That doesn’t really hold up against the data though.. there hasn’t been any documented, lasting damage done from the technique. I’d rather, if the IJF were making their determination based on that, they cite what survey or study they are using.
The landing on the head also isn’t really the tori’s fault, more uke’s for not falling properly. A better rule change would be to shido using a stiff neck to resist a through on the ground, I.e. in the same vein as the head diving uchi mata decision this round.
you could say that about a collection of clips of any throws
Have have the same Questions Chadi. I don't understand the Seoi Nage ruling.
I have a backyard dojo where I still include leg grabs. What is your opinion on leg grabs when teaching?
Reverse, i think the reason bewind this is the uke hand gets stuck in judogi of tori. Look at your video on 8:23 the spanish girl get is hand hurt
I agree with you. Also is the exact moment when chadi says "for safety reasons, there isnt any"... This throw is somehow dangerous
maybe cause that reverse "seoi nage" don't have anything of a seoi nage
Totally agree
On roll-over counters it seems now uchi mata has lower risk now, I might start to practice uchi mata to guard pull roll.
6:00 so I can throw a sode and end it with a leg grab as back on 2012 ?
edit: 6:35 you can see the pain on his face...
they should remove waza ari awasete. reward dynamic throws more than half assed ones
I don't understand one thing about the leg grab rule. In the video, Neil Dams says leg can be grabbed at the end of the throw "if opponent is in newaza".
But in the fighting films video you showed he sat down and rolled over the opponent with his elbow on his leg while opponent was still STANDING. So how is this going to be legal? Can someone explain??
He said after a pause in the movement "...gripping under the belt is a newaza action" implying that it is a ground technique and means that the competitors are now in newaza (where grabbing below the belt is legal). However, it is not a throwing technique so it will not score.
Look at that fall at 8:45. I can understand the safety issue in regard to potentiality of concussion.
Totally agree with all you said.
I don't fine an explanation of why forbid the Korean Seoi... it was something marvelous.
Could you make a video explaining why the legs grabs where forbidden? I never understood that, not the real reason at least... and i didn't knew judo when it was allowed.
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Is it because they consider reverse seoi a cheap shot? Not really a throw?
If I understand, the reverse seoi-nage is now forbidden ?
As you mention, Chadi, I'm unaware of any notable safety issues, with reverse or Korean Seoi nage. The last one listed with head to the ground, makes sense, as I can see potential terminal injury occurring... but reverse seoi nage?? Not so much. Shido?? Really?? Why??
The leg push rule is a step in the right direction, but seems it could be very much up for interpretation?
Totally agree with you Chadi. Do you think than the Koga Sode with the hand helping the throw will be allowed? This ruleset are so confusing and too interpretative that in local tournaments and minor competition will happen a war with referee vs coach.
I genuinely think that we need an upgrade in Federation: IJF is doing too much politics and they are transforming this sport in something else for new people. They want to attract more people but they are leaving alone those who loves really this discipline.
Totally agree. Also, about the Koga sode style, i was thinking about that as well... but i think it's likely a NO since the hand touch should now be allowed only in the terminal phase of the throw, like in helping a rollover, while Koga used the hand on the leg from start to finish.
The comments section on the IJF video was so negative. I feel like there are now a lot more routes to newaza now because before they were giving points for turnovers
I was hoping you would talk about the gripping changes. It seems to me like they formally legalized collar and lapel while leaving other grips unchanges?
The more rules, restrictions, you have in your martial art, the less effective and less practical your martial art becomes.
Hello Chadi. I think the reverse seoi nage was banned because...
Just like judo changed after leg grabs were banned. The reverse seoi nage of all throws had the potential to change judo. It is so effective and due to the simple grip, Could it be possible that competative judo could turn into a competition to see who can execute reverse seoi nage first.
It is a tricky throw that can come off either side, to the front or to the back which makes it very difficult to defend. It is so effective and it is tricky. I think Kano Sensei said the original jujitsu was was a mixed bag of tricks. So he eliminated the tricks in his creation of judo. judo today should not have such tricks. One should be able to defend a throw in a way that is fair and shows the ability to fairly defend or counter. Is there a counter to reverse seoi nage? If not, it is a trick throw.
I can only guess on this... the statistics would show the use and effectiveness in scoring of reverse seoi nage trending upwards perhaps passing even uchi mata or ura nage by 2024 or 2028.
Should a tricky throw that is not logical to defend be the flagship tequiqe of judo? I think this is why the IJF said no.
Thank you.
The reverse seoi naga is judos gift to the other combat sports wearing a gi top. Definitely a judo in invention. Credit is due.
To the reverse seoi nage judo says, "Good luck and best wishes as you continue your trip around the world."
"In short, resisting a more powerful opponent will result in your defeat, whilst adjusting to and evading your opponent's attack will cause him to lose his balance, his power will be reduced, and you will defeat him. This can apply whatever the relative values of power, thus making it possible for weaker opponents to beat significantly stronger ones. This is the theory of ju yoku go o seisu."
If you look at Judo Techniques through the eyes of this quote, and others like it, you can understand why a lot of these rules are being implemented. Olympic Judo has lost so much of the feel of what Judo was meant to be. In that reverse Seoi, it isnt a counter, it doesn't rely on movement, and the only reason why it works at all is the mutual build/weight of the contestants. In more then half of the examples you showed not only did Uke land on his head, but so did Tori. Can you imagine doing this on the street and knocking your own self out in the process of the throw? I could go on with dozens of quotes to illustrate why reverse seoi doesn't embrace the spirit of Judo but ill leave it with this one
" In randori we learn employ the principle of maximum efficiency even when we could easily overpower an opponent." There is no "efficiency" in that technique only overpowering. In fact many of the applications of Judo seen in competition have lost this spirit and for me, i applaud the attempt to return to it.
I Don’t agree, reverse seoi could be defended and then countered by Ura Nage. In Aikido you can do a similar thing in Irimi Nage, (obviously not in judo) but I don’t see any problem to ban it.
@@clopperz don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it can't be defended against. Nor am I saying it's not an effective technique, it's the idea that the technique may be effective but is not necessarily within the spirit of what makes judo waza. If you just want any technique that works go to MMA, if you want to focus on newaza go to BJJ. If you want even more hunched over leg sprawling ground rolling activities go into collegiate wrestling. I think the point of banning it is that the technique might be effective but isn't what the judges are looking for when evaluating good judo if that makes sense. I think they're trying to make sure that judo is different than the other grappling arts and so limiting to techniques that only express the way of judo.
the reverse seionage cause a lot of wrist injuries, especially from opposite grip uke's hands on the lapel hand gets trapped...and possible elbow joint locks as well. so it just going a long with the no joint locks while throwing rule...the magnitude of injuries is not great but very likely...
The only safety reason I can see for the reverse seoi is the tori can drive their head into the mat, but that is the only reason I could see. And I'm not sure if I've heard of any injuries from it either.
I wish they would add back leg grabs(by hand/arm grip) if initiated by lifting with one’s own foot leg or foot to raise opponents leg. After the leg grab rule I had no interest in practicing that way.
It has been said - Ignorance is Bliss . I'm blissfully ignorant of what I do not know regarding new age Judo, Jui Jitsu and other Asian arts modified by Caucasians .
Have a great 2022 Chadi & everyone .
English is not my native lenguage. I don't get the decision number 5. Can someone enlighten me. If tori do a seio nage and uke do an daki wakare, it is not a score? Am i right? Thank you
I won’t be surprise if soon Shuai Jiao will be more popular. It’s rules are simple and reasonable that even a non player will readily understand.
I do not practise Judo, but i totally agree with you on decission 6. It is just ridiculous.
could you make a video on the new ne waza throw rule for throws. is that kata guruma legal? to further add to that no rollover counter rule they should allow a single type of leg takedown like te guruma
Reverse seoinage probably unties the judogi too much if they're changing the rules that you can only fix the gi once
Reverse seoi what? That technique has nothing of seoi nage. Seoi 背負い = to carry on one's back, there's no use of the back on that techinque.
since the leg grabs were banned people have found new and creative ways to throw (italian kata guruma, reverse seoi, mollaei kata guruma, yoko wakare etc) which i think is amazing. im worried that if they so easily ban something as iconic as reverse seoi nage who knows what other techniques are next on the ban list. i have some predictions for the future.
Sir, you used to post judo videos on your channel. Really nice compilation videos. Why stopped?
@@jim_t2928 my goal was to make some sort of judo technique library on youtube if that makes sense, where people could watch any technique and how it is actually done in competition, (when i started this was actually pretty rare, there were only tai otoshi, uchi mata, seoi nage compilations lol) so by now i did most of the techniques that i wanted to highlight and took a long break. however i was planning on coming back eventually, thanks for asking.
Judo has the potential to be one of the most complete grappling arts there are, but is held back by archaic and out of touch committees. This art is in dire need of someone like Eddie Bravo to revolutionize the art and forget about the rule set to focus on what made judo a great art. The whole no attacking the legs when is practically the second half of the art or banning moves that are widely used in the community make absolutely no sense
Kodokan Judo still teaches the complete art. It's only IJF clubs that do not teach techniques that are illegal in Olympic sport.
I really don't understand the IJF. What is the reason to remove korean seoi nage? All I know is that I want my old judo back.
Agreed. The Reverse Seoi-nage ruling is questionable.
Cosmic rule of sports number one: "every sport will be destroyed by its rules committee"
I don't see a safe way to train reverse seoi nage personally. For normal seoi nage Tori holds the sleeve as Uke breakfalls which helps Uke land safely 👍
Man, I love Judo and am still thinking about restarting, but the crippling of allowed techniques is quite annoying. First banning of morote gari, now the reverse seoi nage... First time I saw it, I immediately wanted to try that one out...
Thank you for this video, Chadi. Even though I should consider learning Judo, but I want to learn Hapkido due to throws, kicking and joint locking and joint manipulations. I only taught myself one Judo move that I learned by watching WWE seeing Tazz as a wrestler at the time. Tazz is a Judoka and the only Judo technique by watching him is my favorite that I always use, the Tazzmission aka the Kata-Ha-Jime and I do it to my brother all time. That's the only Judo technique that I keep practicing is the Tazzmission.
Most hapkido is nonsense,id go with judo every time.
The tazzmission doesnt work,you need a jacket to do it on .
@@scarred10 well it actually worked when I did it on my brother and he didn't have a jacket. I literally did the Tazzmission both on the ground and from standing up to take him to the ground until he tapped out.
Unless your hapkido school does sparring for the throwing/takedown element go with judo. I do both jujitsu (which i think is what hapkido is based on) and judo - i’ve learned the same throws in both, but judo is where I learnt to do them on someone that’s resisting.
@@williamwilkins8022 I'm gonna take a look at the Hapkido school around here and see what they.
I think they banned the reverse seoi nage because it could cause injury to uke's wrist, especially in kenka yotsu situation. Uke often falls down because the arm gets turned in a way that you either roll with it or you get your wrist/elbow injured. It also could set a bad example for the youngsters. For the political reasons, i dont think thats the case like for leg grabs back in the day, cause its a throw that not only coreans use succesfully. Personally i think it's an ugly throw most of the times, spin drop and pray you get a point
@3:54 I 100% agree
I think reverse seio nage is banned, because it is not a Judo technique. It comes from Daito Ryu and it's derivatives namely Hapkido. It is essentially a lapel grip shiho nage.
It looks like with reverse seoinage, uke's arm becomes twisted, then locked, and this turns into Tori throwing a locked arm. No?
Correct, wish they explained it rather than just say shido
Happy new year Chadi!
I like these new set of rules! This "reverse seoi nage" is dangerous cause you dont control uke well. First time a friend asked to throw me with it, I hit my toe so hard that I had it injured for many months...and I did not resist the throw.
Its like throwing uke without any regard to his/her safety. Not only that but its easier to throw with it than the seoi nage. Its like a dark side of the Force technique, its a shortcut to destructive power hahaha
Looks like Shihonage/otoshi in some the examples. Cool technique, sucks it's going to be banned. If it's not causing injury I don't see the problem with it. But I'm not a competitive Judo player. I could see how the red belts would be concerned about it causing shoulder injury. I watched it again and it does make me think it's Shihonageish,lol
I believe the reverse/korean seoi nage can be dangerous because the uke lands on their head in several of the clips here i.e. safety issue. Although not really my thing, this is a very cool throw.
In the videos, it does look like people get their head slammed a lot
I dont like rollover counter decision as it was preventing bad entries such as uchi mata, seoi nage...
And decision 6 is kinda alright, i almost broke my friends elbow and shoulder while doing reverse seoi nage, his arm got locked in my kimono, he didnt have any injury but it is still scary.
It isnt that scary for seniors...
Do it with your arm inside, The lever is only possible with your opponent's arm inside.
In my opionion based on this sode tsurikomi goshi should be banned aswell.
I hope they bring back te guruma aswell as morote gari ( standing only, with upwards trajectory) and single leg ( from standing ,grabbing leg and lifting and tripping the other leg). That would make judo great again!
Love how you say "I dont see why reverse seoi is forbidden" and literally every uke is landing on his head^^
Seoi-nage fellas got an important variation in attack banned, uchi-mata fellas got a good defense against them made useless.
In videogame terms, seoi got nerfed, uchi-mata got boosted.
So... how are we supposed to defend against uchi-mata now? No leg grab, no roll behind... only sukashi and uchi-mata-gaeshi still stand, which are incredibly hard to pull off against a skilled judoka, while those who love seoi-nage just got more predictable by losing the possibility to attack on the outside.
This is madness.
By the way, you have not touched the new rule on kumi-kata.
That's another utter nonsense that i think will not turn out to be a good idea and we will see a ton of hansoku-make and maybe even more injuries from attacks started from bad grips.
About Decision # 6: I can't understand why the IJF has banned the Reverse Seoinage. They should explain, give a logical reason and a clear answer, what criteria has been used to penalize it? The statistics do not show that it is a dangerous technique. There are no reasonable statistics to support this decision, judokas are not injured (both when applying it and when being thrown).
Since Judo was created, Morote gari existed and up to 8 years before the Beijing Olympic Games, the leg grip became very popular as a very effective form of throwing, most countries used it and won many gold medals. With this, after Beijing it was banned and with it its variants disappeared (Kata guruma, kuchiki taoishi, kubisu gaeshi and others), the IJF said that the Kata guruma was very confused with the throws of wrestling and Sambo and was lost the judo part, I remember that was the explanation. Many years ago (since the 70s) the Kani-Basami (flying scissors) had already been banned because it could spoil the legs of the uke, there was even a very popular case in Japan in the 80s that involved Saito and Yamashita (who was injured)....But to prohibit and penalize the Reverse Soinage, it seems to me that it does not make sense, an explanation with credible statistics and easy to verify is necessary.
They stuck it to the Koreans IMO 😑
I think the whole points of it all is safety and also judo back to real original fighting .. not white washing of the sport technique. Which is what all the banded were .
Reverse seoi nague it was my favorite 😭
I certainly do not agree with IJF banning reverse seionage.
No leg grips, no "Korean back". Everything is correct. Only a straight back with inertial strikes. Give authentic judo.
Every Judo technique could be dangerous
Just bring back the Newaza in Judo.
Banning Kani Basami (Scissor Takedown) and Flying Armbar is understandable, but banning LEG GRABS entirely?
IJF needs to be replaced. They are not doing Judo any good.
The first few rules are a no brainer . The throw from newaza rules that allowed the BS were a mistake . I don’t understand what is meant by the leg grab rule, can I now do kouchi makikomi ? It’s a very confusing rule . They should man up and admit the terrible error of banning leg grab techniques and restore respect to judo as an art. We do not want it to end up like tai kwon do or Olympic karate, which is where they have been headed.
Reverse seoi has always seemed dangerous to me but I don’t understand how it works, and from a viewer perspective it was an amazing technique so that is really sad . The viewer in me also things that Kani basami should be allowed though (and all leg grab techniques). I find the banning of some but not other irrational , how can you differentiate between the safety of reverse seoi and sode tsuri when the arms are bound up ? Sode is just if not more dangerous.
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in reverse ceoi nagi there is a danger on uki hand
The competition of who has the clunkiest rules between Judo and BJJ is a huge waste of time for the future of grappling.
Bring back leg grabs
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I'll tell you what fellow Judo enthusiasts before we set ourselves up for more disappointment in the Judo world why don't we just rename the art while we're ahead and call it THROW-DO! Because it seems that it is becoming nothing but ridiculous throws and sooner or later it will only be a total of maybe 3 or 4 throws you are allowed to use and that will be that! R.I.P. JUDO 1880-2021😞 welcome to THROW-DO 2021-?
I dislike some changes, I like some of em.
I still really dislike the olympics, it's too arbitrary and limits the judoka.
The reason why they ban the reverse Soei nage is because it is invented by the Korean
i see after years of not having been in a Judo Tournament, that alot of the Judo and stuff like Decision 6 Seoi Nage, look like an updated Judo move, that isn't traditional and that's what i'm all about, True traditional Judo
Trained and developed my korean reverse seoi for 10 years. I’m done with Judo.
Korean seio nage is banned because of the word Korean . It’s that simple.
BRING LEG TAKEDOWNS BACK
First rule is bogus
Ala Tadahiro Nomura
Sick of these constant rule changes
Reverse Seoi Nage is banned? That’s completely insane, and to add insult to injury, the IJF didn’t even explain why. Hopefully there’s a very practical and logical reason, but like brother Chadi said, I can’t fathom why 🤷♂️
IJF needs to be replaced. They 😢
New rule for judo : if you throw your opponent you get a shido
Why they always make new rulles just like karate olympische rulles..... they have nothing too do with a great martial arts. Look at other martial arts where rulles on rulles distroy the art and in a few years everything is lost and the martial arts is weak. Greetings from the Netherlands
There are two forms of Judo.
1. Competition IJF Judo.
2. The complete art of Kodokan Judo.
Many clubs only teach the IJF Competition Judo but Kodokan Judo clubs teach the complete art.
Kodokan Judo isn't watered down.
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This is getting ridiculous! Is it even worth practicing Judo at this point? Seriously I love the art of Judo but they are stripping it of everything that is appealing as well as effective for self-defense! They took away leg attacks and now they have taken out another technique from the standing position seriously what is next for Judo no ne-waza! Honestly why does everything have to be revolved around the ijf? Screw the goddamn ijf they are boring! All the traditional Judo Dojos that honor jigoro kano original ideas and teach complete original Judo curriculum should form their own organization or at least provide a worldwide location search of dojos that exist that way outside of the unappealing suffocation of IJF! There are countless people worldwide that are interested in Judo for self-defense only and do not wish to compete but their self defense minded goals are taken away because of a limited minded Olympic Committee? Absolutely ridiculous
it's going the way of olympic tkd
@@baekho10 well I'll be honest with you my friend I don't really give a rat's ass about Taekwondo I think it is a lousy dogshit martial art Style that is limited to nothing but fencing with your feet and executing unrealistic fancy pants style kicking techniques that are very high-risk low percentage success rate techniques! Judo on the other hand is a much deeper rooted martial arts tradition and it breaks my heart to see it being stripped from all of the useful techniques that have taken years to develop and perfect from the sweat Blood and Tears of Olympic and non Olympic athletes! Judo originally was an all-encompassing very effective modified style of traditional jiu-jitsu that had effective takedowns using leg tackles and upper body throwing as well as Solid Ground grappling that gave birth to BJJ and believe it or not even had striking techniques and it was still pretty awesome to witness in the 1960s when it started in the Olympics and every few years they just keep hacking away at it and I just don't understand what this new rule system is all about? I thought taking away leg tackles was ridiculous but this is absurd! I pray to God that ne waza will remain always a part of Judo! On a closing note I seriously hope that there are Judo dojos that still exists that teach all the traditional kodokan syllabus techniques because too many coaches are way too concerned about these Olympic policies
There are two forms of Judo.
1. Competition IJF Judo.
2. The complete art of Kodokan Judo.
Many clubs only teach the IJF Competition Judo but Kodokan Judo clubs teach the complete art.
Kodokan Judo isn't watered down.
Andrew my friend I think you misunderstand me? I know that kodokan is not a watered-down system and I was expressing the fact that I am having a hard time finding clubs that teach the old and complete method of the art. What I was getting at is that I am not interested in that I J F Sport and I am frustrated because that seems to be all that is offered everywhere! now on top of that these new rule change's make it even worse! It's basically just like trying to find a classic Gracie family Brazilian Jiu Jitsu self-defense Academy but all you can seem to locate is ibjjf garbage sport jiu jitsu and it is very frustrating when you're looking for authentic martial arts and all you get is the half as sport version! On a serious note I hope that more traditional jigoro kano kodokan schools remain available to students and not become wiped away clean by ijf Olympic nonsense.
reason for banning reverse seoi - directly aimed at korean judoka, very political and racist ruling
Too many rules in Judo.