The most important and ignored principle in judo and aikido
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- This video discusses the Aikido principle found in judo kata, and self defence purposes.
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The most important principle in Judo, Aikido, Jujutsu, Sumo and Sambo is the principle of unbalancing - kuzushi. Rule Number One: learn to apply the principles of Kuzushi. Rule Number Two: learn pretty fast Rule Number 1.
Kuzushi can either be a continuation of your opponent's movement (the most efficient way, which you love to see but see comparatively rarely in Competition, and the whole point of this video), or an initially violent use of strength (which the younger player, and the stronger player will be tempted to use - and which you see very often in Competition)
As well as aiki. I was taught both of these concept my second week of bjj.
You can use Kuzushi in 2 way
1. Using your own opponent's force to throw him
2. Using your own strength to push/pull
In wrestling we usually use collar tie, push, pull, shooting single leg is also kuzushi
In MMA you have punching kicking elbowing kneeing that's the kuzushi.
Balance, direction then technique follows.
breaking posture
I agree about experiencing sparring before studying Aikido. I've always felt that learning Aikido is like trying to learn arithmetic by studying calculus first and then working your way backward. So much good stuff in Aikido, but it really does need "pressure testing" to be used in a proper context.
I studied Aikido after studying Judo, Tae Kwon Do, kickboxing and Wing Chun in the 80s. So lots of experience with sparring, timing, and getting hit. My Aikido instructor had also studied different styles. So my aikido made more sense.
I agree, Aikido should come after learning harder styles that give you the timing, and grappling styles to provide the feeling of dynamic balance.
Problem with Aikido is that it doesn't work against the fast opponents unless difference if the skill levels are big. For example: boxer's punches are fast. These fast moving wrists are hard to control.
@@michaeljung4398 That’s where you don’t go for the wrists, you can manipulate any part of the body that isn’t framed well. You can also draw out over-committed attacks. That’s where training and sparring in other styles come in handy. People will often reach with their punches or kicks when you’re just outside of range.
@@turbopowergtright on!
You have study aïkido with atemi ? My sensei have weapons for KILL
@@turbopowergt
Of course you could go for the body. Question is how to get to the body. You need to get close to the body before getting punched or kicked.
Opponent is not going to lose balance by himself. Imagine a boxer lose balance while throwing a punch.
Thanks Chadi. I always find your historical clips and commentary very enlightening🙏. Been taught this principle in Jiu Jitsu, Judo, and Aikido. Disrupt their balance either by striking and executing a move or as the videos show use their excessive overreach against them. In Aikido we are also taught not to lose our own balance and base when executing a move 👍👍
I loved all my years studying Jujutsu, Judo, and Karate. The years spent in these arts made me appreciate Aikido. I think studying it as a beginner with no other experience would have been a bad idea. It's too subtle (ephemeral in some ways?) and niche to make any real sense to a raw beginner. The crash, bang, and wallop experience of the other arts allowed me to see the difference and benefit properly from what Aikido offered.
Agree completely. Aikido appears to me as too refined and precise for a beginner... I have practiced various martial arts over nesrly 30 years and find the precision and non violence challenging to execute
To be fair, the creator of Aikido initially only accepted students who were proficient in other martial arts. Only later, when he came to think of Aikido as a spiritual path, he started accepting everyone.
This is why Uki Otoshi is my favorite technique. Pure kuzushi and flowing with your uki's forward momentum.
As my sensei used to say "Aikido works fine. Your aikido doesn't work so well". Techniques in a practice setting never survive unaltered on the street. But principle does. At the beginning of the video Tohei Sensei's beautiful irimi-nage can simply be described as an ambush. He presents weakness, allows a greedy uke to chase that weakness around a corner, and BAM!, there's that big old bicep rooted to the ground through proper stance. An ambush. Which description doesn't diminish the elegance of the technique as practiced on the mat, and conversely that practice doesn't negate the utility of the principle as practiced on the street.
I say this as a judo guy. Aikido is an empty hand against a weapon art. Not hand-to-hand art. You move differently when attacking with a weapon.
Man these old school masters make it look so beautiful. Work of art by destroying your enemy to protect the self.
It’s been said by a few other posters here- but KUZUSHI is the key in making a Judo technique work.
But uchi Komi practice is good as a training method as well.
Excellent video. Sparring/testing is helpful for understanding the principles.
I thought it was great that you say that some people may be doing it for other reasons where sparring is less relevant.
With tai chi , the expectation was that people would have done an external art previously. However, it is also beneficial for health, energy and awareness even without the context of sparring. Though sparring can add an extra dimension, it’s the internal changes that become a focus.
Great video, Chadi! Modern Aikido is a Gendai Budo-a focus on Principles and not strictly fighting. Old school styles that focus on the realities of fighting are Koryu. Both are Budo. Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu is a Koryu. Takeda Aikibudo is a Koryu and is about as lethal as it gets. You just need to understand the differences between Koryu and Gendai Budo so that you can find what you're looking for. They are different.
I've been learning it with Jose Cuspinera Navarro - (Chadi, all his videos are in spanish but he's a Coral belt in Judo, but also is 3rd degree black belt in Aikido and Karate) - check out his channel - at 76 yrs old he's absolutely amazing. He is a big fan of Aikido and knows it well but it's used AFTER you understand Judo and principle body movements. You can't obviously train many of the more damaging moves on people but they still need practiced b/c the difference between doing extreme damage and sport is very small, the difference is for example Osoto grabbing a lapel vs a throat strike. The guy is amazing and I think you'd really be impressed if you get a chance to check him out.
Thanks for Your words.
The most Important concept that's overlooked or ignored in judo an aikido is kuzushi that's the number one fundamental, without breaking an opponents balance a technique is useless that's the simple truth . If it's a strike or grab the same principle applies you need to set up your attacker by forcing them off balance , my old jujutsu instructor would remind us students why it's so Important alongside happo no kuzushi as they go hand in hand and should always be drilled properly in case you need to defend yourself
Kuzushi can either be a continuation of your opponent's movement (the most efficient way, which you love to see but see comparatively rarely in Competition, and the whole point of this video), or an initially violent use of strength (which the younger player, and the stronger player will be tempted to use - and which you see very often in Competition)
合気道への入門。
柔道五段、空手道五段、剣道五段。
他流派上級者向け＝合気道。
合気道の最初の形は、他流派奥義で構成されてます。
Excelente enseñanza 🇨🇱🥋👊 OSS del antiguo Jiustsu derivó al judo,y de la misma técnica dividas se formó el aikdo,murihei usshiva también era experto en el daidojuku antiguo 🇨🇱🥋👊
Chadi san, I know I am echoing what everyone else is saying. But you are saying something insightful about having some real life experience before coming into Aikido. It makes the principles stand out more. My personal experience was when I was younger dealing with bullies/fighting in school, then going into sparring in martial arts. In striking, grappling, and weapons. When I finally practiced Aikido, the concepts of flow and timing made a lot more sense to me because I could see *how* this could work in a self defense or sparring scenario or see how to apply the principle in those scenarios. Then I wasn't needing to be spoon feed how it works, I was learning how to make it work on my own, and I think that's a skill you develop with sparring...you learn to adapt on the fly. But I don't think you need to do a lifetime of sparring before you do Aikido, I think even a small dose makes a difference. I was only in martial arts 5 years before I did Aikido, and it made a difference for me applying Aikido in a live situation. Trial and error was the old school way. Nowadays people need to be spoon fed what works and what doesn't because they do not want to take the time to think for themselves. This is another important concept I think is missed in the modern world, learning to learn.
Great video! Even though I have not studied martial arts, I feel like I have to, thanks for the explainer 🙌
The Uke (-attacking partner- of master Tohei till minute 1;34 is a very young Endo sensei, first time I notice it!!!
Nice explanation! It's interesting, it used to be that you could not study aikido unless you were already well versed in another martial art. Aikido on some level is more a set of principles than a true set of techniques. Most of aikido was not systematized until after the founders death. It's certainly true that too much aikido without a counterbalancing perspective leads to a dangerous level of arrogance.
Only thing missing from Aikido is a global combat circuit, like Judo has. Fight strategy only comes from competing. In fact most Aikido throws in fact all , don't require jacket grips, so technically it's throws are more street ready than judo. All they need is a comp, like wing chun too, this is their main failing, it's time to accept and modernise 😊 . Peace my brothers and sisters.
Excellent video thank you
Muy buen punto, Chadi. Es cierto que la tendencia es mirar con cierta superficialidad estos sistemas «blandos» de combate. Sin duda que estos pertenecen a niveles más altos de cultivo, práctica y comprensión de las Artes Marciales.
Un saludo afectuoso para ti.
Thank you Chadi 🙏 techniques and principles are greatly dismissed in our martial arts community . Many of the principles can be applied in many ways regardless of art or style . 👏👍
ボルダリングや単純な懸垂を行う際に、肩甲骨を上げた状態では引き上げる動作は長く続けられません。
同じように腰は下がった状態で一番力を発揮できます。
アンバランスを作り出す｢崩し｣を理解するには、上記二点の位置関係を念頭に置くとわかりやすいです。
Beautiful Video 💎💎💎💎
I think the almost throw away comment you made about Sumo is something that is super important for Aikido people to understand.
When I practice Aikido against resistance, one of the drills I use is to have Nage stand in one portion of the mat. Often using the lines of the interconnecting mat pieces as a boundary. Then I will have Uke try to move Nage outside the boundary either by pushing or pulling. Uke's job is to move Nage, Nage's job is to stay inside the boundary. That removes the traditional kata training approach of Aikido and also removes the opposing force of sparring. Each partner has a different job, they are not trying to "kick each other's ass" so a clash of power that turns into a strength contest is less likely. Then you just set an arbitrary round time before the pair switch roles, based on the participants level of fitness.
Well this is essentially one half of a Sumo match. Sumo is a great vehicle to practice Aikido. Morihei Ueshiba practiced Sumo when he was younger and I am sure that helped him develop Aikido.
3:35 almost identical to cai jin (“pluck”) in Taiji
Also I believe that’s a young Endo Sensei in much of this video, very cool. You can see it in his face but also his movements
I think... Only when the opponent's arm are outstretched, you can put on a jointlock. So if two people fold their arms, nothing happens. When punching, the moment the arm is extended is too short to use the technique. So we need a rule to keep our arms straight like ‘push hands’ when we make sparring.
Judo basics are Kuzushi, Kukukuri and Kaka. Aikido has these plus Aiki.
What's funny is this idea of blending with uke's movement is NOT fundamental to Aikido. The original Ikkajo for example was to stop the movement entirely and stab uke in the armpit, there's no "blending" whatsoever. The original Aikido ikkyo was to strike uke's face first, then to control their arm if they blocked you. The main principle was to find a way to break a very solidly resisting uke's balance.
The blending movement was a special case, contained in the ura techniques for when somebody is overextended or attacked in a very aggressive way. It became all that was taught because after the war Japanese martial arts were banned and they had to get rid of preemptive attacks and stabbing and limit what was taught only to the blending movement.
的確な意見です。
斎藤先生は常々「正面打ち一教表は自分から先に真っすぐ攻撃し、そのまま勝利する。合気道はまずこの技が中心にあって、他の展開がある。(二、三、四教や、キノナガレ)」と仰っていました。
吉祥丸先生はカリキュラムを整備された重要なコーチですが、格闘技愛好家よりも世間一般への普及を優先した結果、正面打ち一教を見せなくなったと思います。彼は非暴力的で不思議な力をもつ武道を印象付ける事に成功しました。
今の世の中では、小学生の男の子が山羊の子供のように相撲や喧嘩を経験する事も少ないです。クミテ、ランドリのある競技を経験した方を対象に合気道を勧めるシナリオは興味深いと思います。
Это самый главный принцип в Системе Кадочникова, который был развит на современном уровне с помощью научного подхода. Всем удачи в изучении Казуши.
Very nice ❤
The mistake of Aikido organization is they open up for all even to those who never step into any martial art classes. They should make it an elite club for martial artists. The way I see it, Aikido is more of a concept, not practical by its own but can be applied in any martial arts. It's like Jeet Kune Do but in pacifist way. So, it is more of "how to apply Aikido in martial arts" than "how to use Aikido only".
This is a good point. 👌🏻
but the other martial arts already have it.
Aikido is very practical, for sword fighting. It's useless to interpret it as a martial art.
@@SBahamondes yes, it was created when sword fight didn t exist already for long time, when judo and some grappling was already quite alive in japan.
There are three judo principles:
- ju,
- serioku zen ju
- jitak jo ai
Very educational and very informative. 🙇🏾♂️🙏🏾
in order for aikido to work, it is necessary to deal with weapons, and not with new models, but with old armor techniques, for example, singake ryu marabashi, who explains when, how and why it is necessary to act this way and not otherwise. in order for the technique to work with weapons, it is necessary to change the principle of generating efforts, which many styles are trying to teach, for example, old karate, wushu or Kadochnikov style, all this is about the same thing. but the vast majority stops at the external form, not understanding the inner content. and when they try to apply an external form without proper internal content, they naturally fail with boxers. impact karate as an example of a commercial attempt to create Japanese boxing for its main purpose.
6:33 People who criticize Aikido tend not to criize the principles of aiki or kazushi, but the training methodology and cannon of techniques.
I was an uke for Tohei and did randori with this guy. He was unbelieveable . I was to get my black belt under him but politics killed it and I was young. :(Other martial arts have aikido principle in them as far as going with them, In bjj the relaxed non muscle guy rarely gasses out.
Gostei muito, gratidão!
*steps to the side* ☯️
Para aprender Aikido primero se debe saber Judo ; dicho de otra forma , para subir en la escalera del Conocimiento comienza con lo mas sencillo : la primera grada . . . y asi sucesivamente . Chadi por favor si es posible haz los videos en Español Latino , por que son muy instructivos , Gracias .
It's very informative, I've seen this principle used in randori sessions,
But I have a question, what do you do when your opponent doesn't give you the movement and is extremely defensive.
In a fight he is thus not much of a threat. In a judo competition he will be warned for being too passive.... 🤔
Simply push or pull to provoke adverse reaction, and use the reaction to your benefit. But mind not to be caught of yours directon of strength application! Therefore you have to be very strong and very smart. Practically in today's judo you have to be stronger and smarter than your opponent and be able to keep those features on high level throughout 5 min of judo fight by forcing yours skills on your opponent - of course with use of basic judo principles. You have to be prepared for it!
Well, one philosophy would be that if he's defensive and is refusing to give energy, then he's not attacking you so there's no need to defend against him.
Aikido, being an art of self-defense that is harmonious with an attacker's energy, needs an attack to harmonize with.
It's essentially a dynamic physical mirror, not a combat art.
Meaning its goal is not to engage in violence with another person. It's goal is to "tame disorder" and maintain, restore, and create harmony, while inflicting as little harm as necessary.
And that minimal harm, is going to be directly related to the amount of energy, or violence contained in the attack.
A violent attack, with serious intent to harm, properly redirected, will potentially end with a fair amount of harm depending on the Aikidoka's skill level, philosophy, and perceived ability to defend against the violence.
If they are insecure about the ability to defend themselves in an actual confrontation, then it's best to end it as soon as possible, and that might require hurting the person. Particularly in situations of multiple attackers.
Because it's one thing to practice a harmonious physical philosophy to do little harm, but it doesn't mandate exposing one's self potential harm or injury.
Aikidoka study to defend themselves after all, not sacrifice themselves on the altar of peace.
Keeping in mind, that in centuries past, attacks we're often met with death or dismemberment.
So dislocating somebody's shoulder, or breaking their wrist, or throwing them on concrete is still minimal harm and might be warranted as an act of self-defense against a violent aggressor, and might even be an act of mercy as opposed to the alternative.
But to the point, Aikido utilizes the laws of physics. So if there is no attack, meaning that someone is fully defensive, there is no reason to apply a technique.
You could probably talk your way out of that fight. Or simply walk away.
To do otherwise, is to quit practicing Aikido (which is the physical manifestation of a peaceful philosophy), and start applying the violence-with-intent-to-harm of another art.
Whether that art be a striking art, or a throwing art, or a grappling art, or the escalation of force through weaponry, such as a police officer's heavy reliance on the deadly force of a gun to fully minimize any harm to self, even if it means the death of a citizen.
And perhaps one or more of these are necessary in some situations.
If that's the case, then you apply your own energy to provoke movement, and then redirect your opponent's response.
For example, you can enter, parry any defensive blows, and apply a palm strike to the chin to force them into an off-balance position.
And as the person loses balance, you allow them to recover to the forward position, then redirect that energy, applying your technique.
But, depending on the skill of the attacker, and their art that might be difficult.
Engaging with a boxer like that is going to have different results then someone who doesn't know how to fight.
So the best response if someone is fully defensive, and not attacking you, is to swallow your ego, leave them alone, and go about your business.
Just don't turn your back on them. 😂
Personally, I blame Steven Seagal for ruining Aikido in the US. It's hard for a young wrestler turned Jujitsuka or Judoka to take it seriously when the only person they can think of is that goober.
There is always Eight Step Mantis Kung Fu and Bagua. Hapkido is fairly effective for self defense.
Shinwa Taido (Aikido), Judo were my first arts (1973) then Shuai Chiao lot later 😳😬
Only around 5% of modern aikido dojos practice Aikido. The problem is people look at the form of martial arts and not the principles.. i.e. put hand here, step here, punch here, lift arm. Aikido doesn't have any new techniques. The techniques are the structure in which aikido itself is practicised. Indeed, after about 20 years of training I remember at a course asking a guy 'what was that technique he just demonstrated' - not because I wasn't watching, but because I was looking at their center of gravity and body movement and not at arms and legs. Same does apply in other sports, like in boxing it's not at all the arm movement, but the body movement, that creates a powerful strike.
Aikido is the only empty hand martial art that works with a 50lbs backpack and full military load out.
Ueshiba designed it in the sino japanese war when he was escorting civilians on foot through territory with the primary obstacle of being ambushed by poor gangs trying to rob him not actually kill him.
Ok, let's test this theory, put on a fifty pound backpack and fight multiple opponents. No matter what your art or style you will recreate Aikido real fast or walk away stripped naked.
I've put this challenge out for years to all Aikido critics, what have I heard in response? SILENCE.
It's my guess that this is why Segal is promoting Aikido in the Russian military.
Three judo principles:
1. Give way to defeat your opponent
2. Use as little force as possible to attain as maximum effect as possible
3. Practice judo with your partner for mutual benefit
kick with sweeps make yourself like a giant
I never took judo classes because they get beat up too much without being allowed to hit back - there are moments we are called as a demonstrator and I don’t even like that anymore 👌🏽
Allowed to hit back? You know that both fighters are allowed to do the same thing to each other?
Not doing something because you can't hit someone is the strangest excuse I ever heard.
Aikido was NEVER meant to be a combat art. The problem isn’t Aikido, it’s people’s expectations.
Did you practice aikido?
@@orlandodantas4197 No. But I did study Japanese MA. The arts ending with the suffix “ DO” ie. judo, kendo, karate do and aikido art meant to be ways of life leading to good health and mental serenity. They all can be used for self defense of course. Those arts ending with the suffix “Jutsu” art strictly combat arts ie. Aiki jutsu, Iajutsu, Ken Jitsu etc. etc. I love ALL martial art history❤️ 69 yo been practicing since I was 15. I hope this clarifies my statement. I edited my first statement from “martial” to “combat” hopefully to further clarify👍
The suffix “do” does not disqualify a system from being a martial art. By your logic Jeet Kune Do would not be a martial art.
Aikido is a martial art. What Aikido is not is a comprehensive system. Aikido techniques focus on clinching and then throwing or slamming similar to pro wrestling. The system was originally developed by people that already knew Karate and Kung Fu so they already knew when and how to throw strikes.
Many people go to MCdojo’s and make the mistake of thinking if they learn a grappling system like Aikido they could become so dominant with their techniques that they won’t have to go to another school to learn strikes or wrestling. A lot of boxers make the same mistake and believe that because they are dominant strikers they don’t need to learn grappling
@@kbtken in Japanese culture that’s exactly what Do means. Bruce Lee was Chinese American and Jeet Kune Do is more an approach to eclectic combat training and principles. NOT a defined style. IMHO. I’m actually trying to defend aikido. Never studied but I am a fan.
No one talks about how Aikido is a sword art, not a 'martial' art.. Those Aikido demonstrations are used to show sword vectoring techniques not hands.
Let them pass can be important, but is not the main point of aikido
pleeeease make a video on Armchair Violence last one
There are different distance and different style should be applied for combat it depends on the distance. The Russian man who created combat Sambo he wrote in his notebook about 110 years ago that for long distance the kicks would work.Then middle distance boxing would work for close combat Mui Thai elbows and knees would work and judo would work for the close combat in certain situation too. Also he was making the system for NKVD special units and advised them to throw the sand in the eyes of opponent or use a short sticks and etc.Now we have MMA which is at list 90% close to the real street fight. So my point was that judo alone is not enough just like a boxing alone is not enough neither. You should of bring the right tool from your tool box depends on the distance and situation.
Combat sambo had been doing 90% of street fights for 100yrs. (Pankration for thousands) Vale Tudo existed in 50's. MMA is simply the latest variation.
@@vlada I agreed
i agree
My martial arts experiences started in Kenpo karate, which I really thre my heart into. But it was a system that depended a lot on almost stunt man fighting (I.e. the attacker attacked with a known beforehand attack, you react ina prescribed way, the attacker reacts in the scripted way) but also kata and “full contact” which at the time meant small boxing gloves, chest protector and helmet. That was in the eighties. Then I trained in aikido in the 90’s and loved it way more because though the attack was known beforehand, you didn’t pull punches or anything you did the technique and the only limiting factor was the speed of the attack. It felt more honest but always bothered me that the attacks were totally unrealistic and stylized.
What I realized later, after not training for decades, in anything, was aikido gave me the most useful “tools” to defend myself. You don’t really go into what I consider the best and most useful principles at least from what I got from aikido and have internalized.
1) distancing. Keeping yourself well away from the opponent so they have to commit quite a bit to strike you and you are not in their most powerful range of striking. I know from experience that if I am in a boxers stance right in range of my opponent my reaction time lag makes me vulnerable, I can’t react in time and correctly. I get amazed that even people that don’t want to fight, and can’t fight well end up giving up and then moving into range of a n attacker as if there were rules. Make the attacker have to jump in to hit you well, it buys reaction time.
2) entering. Moving into a position (often forward against the attacker) where the attackers power is dissipated. A right handed attacker, you could move into his left, and suddenly he cannot easily hit you. Never back up in a straight line (unless it suddenly for some reason is advantageous), move around d.
Those two principles, as well as going with the opponents flow to unbalance them, or doing something very weird like the aikido technique where you seem to be running to your opponent intending to attack and suddenly drop down to the floor, tripping them over you.
But I haven’t been in any more fights since I learned even kenpo, yet the ukemi, learning to fall/roll has come in handy too when I was learning to cross country ski, and fell a lot, or as an old man just not being afraid of falling.
Aikido was originally designed to expand on an already complete fighter no?
Existe solo un verdadero arte marcial. El boxeo ingles
Over the years I did hear quite often that Aikido works very well for security personnel or bouncers
What are your thoughts on that Chadi?
What style of Aikido are you referring to?
Maybe aikikai
4:03 What attack is this? An very telegraphed eye poke?
Maybe that's if someone id trying to mess with your hair?
Sacrifice Throw
Dancing is not fighting. The one dude be submissive is not what happens in a real fight.
Как то так будет в реале
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Karate can be applied against a dog or a bear attack. Can aikido expert protect himself against chimpanzee ?
In Aikido the most ignored principle is effectiveness in a fight
Mix aikido with something else like boxing and tell me it’s not useful. Noway
Айкидо-это сложно!!!
C est de la biomécanique du corps .
Brains & Brawn
MA or MAII.
👍👍👍!🇺🇦,🖐...
I worked as a doorman for years and not once did anyone try to hit me the same as the way these guys are practising. Not realistic.
Не мужское занятие. Нормальный мужчина не станет тратить время на это недоразумение.