27kg is rather optimistic. 😉 Nonetheless, ebikes are huge fun, and these look very cool. Over here we're legally limited to 250W motors, 25 km/h, and no throttles. 😢 More powerful, faster, throttled bikes are sold - strictly for use on private property, of course. 😂 If I lived near a beach or city I'd be tempted. They'd be terrific for that kind of riding. You know you want one 😁
The 25km and Throttle rules are Aussie/EU - But like we discussed in the Vid, its more about crusiing when riding a Vallkree, no need to go like a bat out of hell. Thanks for watching!
From my point of view, the main flaw is that they didn't use a belt instead of a chain. It would be sleeker and easier/cleaner to maintain. Something that's used for example on ‘i:SY SKYFLY E5’ or ‘CAKE Ösa‘.
I'm not sure why but generally equivalent belt bikes are a lot more expensive. I guess because they are a bit niche, manufacturers can charge more. It becomes a question of where you draw the line. Make it an inhub gears with automatic shifting and a central motor suddenly it's $15K in stead of $5K.
@@mondotv4216 You are not wrong. The initial initial price can be higher, but it depends on user scenario. If you only ride a few 100 km a year, mostly on tarmac, the chain will be fine. In my experience, if you put more km on it and you're not afraid of the terrain, you need to clean and lube the chain every 80-150 km (depending on the dustiness or wetness of the weather), replace the chain every 1000-1200 km, and replace the cassette and chainring every 2500-3000 km. Thus, over a longer period of time, costs do not vary much. Especially if you factor in your time to carry out these necessary maintenance tasks and the cost of the tools to do it, or the cost of a visit to the bike shop if you don't like the DIY approach.
I believe there are two settings, road mode which as you says limits output to 300 watts and 25kph speed limit and offroad mode. But this is NZ and no one cares about those limits the cops do not care or even check. I imported an electric motor and lithium battery around 10 years ago and built my own electric bike and that thing was mad 750 watts and top speed of 60kph. Yeah sure these days that's nothing but back then E-bikes were very new and most bike shops were shocked at my powerful bike. But again cops never pulled me over as many professional cyclists can do 60kph without an electric motor!
They should do a urban motorbike version, like 90kph top end. Might as well expand in to... was going to say moped market but checked and that's only 50ph. So LC motorbike class.
I like the 500W and 1000W options, but I believe it is illegal to use them on the road... this should have been covered in the video. It's quite important for any potential buyer to be aware of this.
Yes, thats what the law says, but the power is not what they should be controlling, its the speed. A 30kg kid on 250W is a bullet compared to a 130kg bloke on 250W.
@@MiniLuv-1984 I agree, NZ rules are not consistant. Bosch speed motors are on bikes in NZ and they go 45kph. NZ is all about continous output, which is also interpreted different by different companies. Even a specialized EMTB has 700w of power, but its peak, not continous. Same with hubs. The conversation needs to be around speed. Trek, Specialized, Gepida, Smartmotion, all produce 45kph mid drive motors in NZ. We have capped Vallkree as 40kph, so essentially we are slower than some of the bigger more common mid drives.
“Next level quality” cuts to shot of entry level shimano acera derailleur! I love your EV reviews but please review some actual high quality e bikes with mid drive motors from reputable brands- like you do with cars. “Built for life” 😂
Thanks Billy, Vallkree are hub driven so not used on trails/EMTB. We machine our own cranks from 304 stainless, heads sets etc... to put a XTR or AXS would be a waste of money as its not needed for this style of bike. We are not a mountain bike.
To be fair with an e-bike you don't really need gears. They're there for those people who want to ride it like a normal bike or get you home if you're battery goes flat (and at 30kg you'd want it to be all downhill or flat!). What would be the point of putting a high end road bike set on an e-bike cruiser? Sure on an e mountain bike that's different - you want mid drive to take advantage of the gearing and a decent group set.
Those wicked looking machines are just cheap heavy bikes with inneficient hub motors and heavy cheap bicycle parts, theyll be seen at the local tip shops after a short while with rusty steel components.
Good banter team. Great looking machines
27kg is rather optimistic. 😉
Nonetheless, ebikes are huge fun, and these look very cool. Over here we're legally limited to 250W motors, 25 km/h, and no throttles. 😢 More powerful, faster, throttled bikes are sold - strictly for use on private property, of course. 😂
If I lived near a beach or city I'd be tempted. They'd be terrific for that kind of riding.
You know you want one 😁
The 25km and Throttle rules are Aussie/EU - But like we discussed in the Vid, its more about crusiing when riding a Vallkree, no need to go like a bat out of hell. Thanks for watching!
@@VallkreeNZ 500w in New Zealand don't you need a license for anything over 300w.
@@kiwihib NZ rules are around continous pwer output. No you do not need a liscence.
guys dan is my dad-
Thanks Em😘
From my point of view, the main flaw is that they didn't use a belt instead of a chain. It would be sleeker and easier/cleaner to maintain. Something that's used for example on ‘i:SY SKYFLY E5’ or ‘CAKE Ösa‘.
Great point, we do have a model in Aussie with a Belt that we are going to test in NZ as well.
I'm not sure why but generally equivalent belt bikes are a lot more expensive. I guess because they are a bit niche, manufacturers can charge more. It becomes a question of where you draw the line. Make it an inhub gears with automatic shifting and a central motor suddenly it's $15K in stead of $5K.
@@mondotv4216 You are not wrong. The initial initial price can be higher, but it depends on user scenario. If you only ride a few 100 km a year, mostly on tarmac, the chain will be fine. In my experience, if you put more km on it and you're not afraid of the terrain, you need to clean and lube the chain every 80-150 km (depending on the dustiness or wetness of the weather), replace the chain every 1000-1200 km, and replace the cassette and chainring every 2500-3000 km. Thus, over a longer period of time, costs do not vary much. Especially if you factor in your time to carry out these necessary maintenance tasks and the cost of the tools to do it, or the cost of a visit to the bike shop if you don't like the DIY approach.
@@mondotv4216 Hi, we have a Belt Drive model in Aussie if you ever wanted a customise a Vallkree.
I thought e-bikes were capped at 300watts to be street legal in NZ without requiring registration as a moped, etc? Anyone fill us in on that score?
I believe there are two settings, road mode which as you says limits output to 300 watts and 25kph speed limit and offroad mode. But this is NZ and no one cares about those limits the cops do not care or even check. I imported an electric motor and lithium battery around 10 years ago and built my own electric bike and that thing was mad 750 watts and top speed of 60kph. Yeah sure these days that's nothing but back then E-bikes were very new and most bike shops were shocked at my powerful bike. But again cops never pulled me over as many professional cyclists can do 60kph without an electric motor!
But how do you lock it? Also it didn’t look as though you can raise the seat. But a cool looking ebike!
But, but, but Gav - where's the spud score?
2 spuds, one in each pocket
Love the e bike
He said you would hit some cones after hitting road works. You must have edited that part out.
I was also suprised, I think they finished the works the day before. Im sure the cones will be back.
They should do a urban motorbike version, like 90kph top end. Might as well expand in to... was going to say moped market but checked and that's only 50ph. So LC motorbike class.
FTN do an amazing E motorbike, check them out.
Why not make them mopeds and road registrable?
Solves so many urban problems.
I like the 500W and 1000W options, but I believe it is illegal to use them on the road... this should have been covered in the video. It's quite important for any potential buyer to be aware of this.
Good luck ever being pulled over by a cop to check the output
Yeah 250w is ok but the 500w or 2x500w shouldnt be on the roads
Yes, thats what the law says, but the power is not what they should be controlling, its the speed. A 30kg kid on 250W is a bullet compared to a 130kg bloke on 250W.
@@MiniLuv-1984 I agree, NZ rules are not consistant. Bosch speed motors are on bikes in NZ and they go 45kph. NZ is all about continous output, which is also interpreted different by different companies. Even a specialized EMTB has 700w of power, but its peak, not continous. Same with hubs. The conversation needs to be around speed. Trek, Specialized, Gepida, Smartmotion, all produce 45kph mid drive motors in NZ. We have capped Vallkree as 40kph, so essentially we are slower than some of the bigger more common mid drives.
“Next level quality” cuts to shot of entry level shimano acera derailleur! I love your EV reviews but please review some actual high quality e bikes with mid drive motors from reputable brands- like you do with cars. “Built for life” 😂
Thanks Billy, Vallkree are hub driven so not used on trails/EMTB. We machine our own cranks from 304 stainless, heads sets etc... to put a XTR or AXS would be a waste of money as its not needed for this style of bike. We are not a mountain bike.
To be fair with an e-bike you don't really need gears. They're there for those people who want to ride it like a normal bike or get you home if you're battery goes flat (and at 30kg you'd want it to be all downhill or flat!). What would be the point of putting a high end road bike set on an e-bike cruiser? Sure on an e mountain bike that's different - you want mid drive to take advantage of the gearing and a decent group set.
Those wicked looking machines are just cheap heavy bikes with inneficient hub motors and heavy cheap bicycle parts, theyll be seen at the local tip shops after a short while with rusty steel components.
Since EV are dead in NZ now they are reviewing electric bikes! Wow how the mighty has fallen!