Thanks for checking it out! Which DAW do you use? At the moment I only have Ableton and Pro Tools. I have a basic Ableton Template for metal and then I have a hip hop/ rnb template as well. Do you mean just sonically? Like which plugins I have on which instrument?
Great video. Thanks for spending the time making these. I love that you explain why you are making certain moves in a simple way that beginners can understand. Other people seem to just do what they do but it's hard to copy with a different drum library that sounds different and requires changing different frequencies etc. My one complaint is that it's edited far too fast so some things happen too quickly to process what's going on and the whole video is too much information to take in within a short period of time. My suggestion would be to break it down into more videos that slow it down and spend a little more time. However, these videos are still very helpful regardless of my complaint/suggestion.
I appreciate that Tyson! When putting it on UA-cam there’s I guess a lot of things to consider. I was actually going to do short videos on each drum or release an extended version that’s 30+ minutes. I’ll keep that in mind for future videos where there’s a lot to unpack. Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for watching !
@@BrendonKPadjasek Don't be afraid to share an unedited video of 10-15mins on one aspect. It helps seeing and hearing something wrong and arriving at the solution with all of the trial and error in between. Helping us understand what is wrong also helps us understand what is right.
@@BrendonKPadjasek I got a Volt 276, it came with VItual Drummer Deep as a bonus so I'm trying that first. Kinda trying to keep it simple for my first recording on Ableton. Also came with my Volt.
@gslinger19 interesting. I’m on UAD as well but I haven’t heard of virtual drummer deep. If you’re interested ML Sound Labs has a free drum vst that’s pretty sweet
@@BrendonKPadjasek I'll take a look at it, I don't seem to have a compressor and some of the other things you have. Will check that out soon. Appreciate the help.
Thanks a lot Jeff! I have a few others on drums and I’ve been getting more questions about them. If you have any additional questions or topics you’d like covered in detail let me know!
Not on 1176’s. I’m not sure why the numbers go the opposite way but you can definitely hear , when tinkering with an 1176, that’s fast. Thanks for checking it out!
i LIKE. Good vid, great explanation. Great emphasis on listening to find attack and release. You would be a hero if you had link for your counterkit preset. I subbed
Thanks my friend! I literally just use the Raw drum kit sounds so they’re bare bones. Which DAW do you use? I might look into creating a template in the future.
Eh I appreciate that! Just learning more every day and passing on some of what I know. I plan to have the stems available for the next video so that viewers can follow along in their DAW as well. Stay tuned this week and thanks again for watching and subscribing !
For the secret ingredient, I usually would go one step further by using a multi band distortion plugin to separate frequencies that I want to saturate at different levels. (Learnt this one from the legendary Buster Odeholm) Once again, great vid Brendon!
Buster is amazing. I've tried that exact same thing with Fab Filter Saturn 2 but I always end up getting some issue when trying to do that. But to be fair I had tried it on the Auxillery track and had realized devil loc was the one for that. I'll try it on the actual room mic track next time. Thanks for watching and for the tip!
Is there a cheap alternative to the UAD Channel Strip? I've never used a channel strip before and would like to test it out before I spend much on it. Is it even necessary for someone that doesn't record music professionally?
I always go raw samples out and do my own thing on a multi out. I like having the flexibility. Then I start with a eq or channel strip, compressor and then whatever else I may need
Hey man quick question, did you use any preset inside the counterkit and used any of the mix functions inside the plugin? Or are these raw ones, and then processing it? Already Sounding really nice without processing outside kontakt…
@@BrendonKPadjasek ah thanks! It’s my first time mixing counterkit as i’ve used to ggd, i’ll try to follow u’r method here hopefully it will sound like or close to it 😂
@diostaylow haha sounds good. If you want I made a newer video about mixing all the instruments. It’s an hour long but the first 20 are about drums and my slightly newer methods
@@norbzys430 I've found that I lose too much of my kick drum and snare fundamental and it's harder to make sure it in phase with the kick and snare when you remove that much information. I also use my overheads for overall drum tone. So much of the life of the drums live in the overheads (and rooms) so I don't see why I'd remove the life out of it
@BrendonKPadjasek actually that absolutely makes sense. Do u have any videos on how to process additional lead melody guitars on top of quad tracked guitars?
These really don’t sound very real. Just being honest. I get your idea for the video but probably would be a better idea to use samples that don’t sound like machine guns. Regardless of velocities or any other post-processing: if the samples themselves sound bad, it will always sound bad no matter what. Maybe try Steven Slate drums, or some of the other higher end SuperiorDrummer packs.
Thanks for watching anyways and you raise a good point Kevin. I guess for this specific song this is the amount of realness I was comfortable with. I guess if you want a "real" drum sound, use the raw samples and don't process them at all haha. But no one, myself included, want metal drums to sound THAT real. Which drum library are you using atm? I've had SSD and it was cool, GGD Invasion is also up there for me. In part 2 of the series I'm going to include the raw stems and MIDI so I'd love to hear how you can make them sound as well.
Would you consider doing a video of creating a basic template for ideas and demoing? Maybe on other daws also?
Thanks for checking it out! Which DAW do you use? At the moment I only have Ableton and Pro Tools. I have a basic Ableton Template for metal and then I have a hip hop/ rnb template as well. Do you mean just sonically? Like which plugins I have on which instrument?
Great video. Thanks for spending the time making these. I love that you explain why you are making certain moves in a simple way that beginners can understand. Other people seem to just do what they do but it's hard to copy with a different drum library that sounds different and requires changing different frequencies etc. My one complaint is that it's edited far too fast so some things happen too quickly to process what's going on and the whole video is too much information to take in within a short period of time. My suggestion would be to break it down into more videos that slow it down and spend a little more time. However, these videos are still very helpful regardless of my complaint/suggestion.
I appreciate that Tyson! When putting it on UA-cam there’s I guess a lot of things to consider. I was actually going to do short videos on each drum or release an extended version that’s 30+ minutes. I’ll keep that in mind for future videos where there’s a lot to unpack. Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for watching !
When I’m mixing I can easily spend 10-15 minutes on one aspect. Maybe I’ll do a live stream one day
@@BrendonKPadjasek Don't be afraid to share an unedited video of 10-15mins on one aspect. It helps seeing and hearing something wrong and arriving at the solution with all of the trial and error in between. Helping us understand what is wrong also helps us understand what is right.
Good point! I’ll keep that in mind for future videos that require more trial and error
Thanks for watching! If you have any questions feel free to drop them here:
Do you export your drums first and then do all the this
@gslinger19 I normally don’t. I just route the drums to separate channels from the drum plugin
Which plugin do you use for drums ?
@@BrendonKPadjasek I got a Volt 276, it came with VItual Drummer Deep as a bonus so I'm trying that first. Kinda trying to keep it simple for my first recording on Ableton. Also came with my Volt.
@gslinger19 interesting. I’m on UAD as well but I haven’t heard of virtual drummer deep. If you’re interested ML Sound Labs has a free drum vst that’s pretty sweet
@@BrendonKPadjasek I'll take a look at it, I don't seem to have a compressor and some of the other things you have. Will check that out soon. Appreciate the help.
Great video dude
Thanks a lot Jeff! I have a few others on drums and I’ve been getting more questions about them. If you have any additional questions or topics you’d like covered in detail let me know!
0:41 correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that slow attack and slow release?
Not on 1176’s. I’m not sure why the numbers go the opposite way but you can definitely hear , when tinkering with an 1176, that’s fast. Thanks for checking it out!
i LIKE. Good vid, great explanation. Great emphasis on listening to find attack and release. You would be a hero if you had link for your counterkit preset. I subbed
Thanks my friend! I literally just use the Raw drum kit sounds so they’re bare bones. Which DAW do you use? I might look into creating a template in the future.
@@BrendonKPadjasek I use Studio one. I like your mixing. Keep up the quality content
Eh I appreciate that! Just learning more every day and passing on some of what I know. I plan to have the stems available for the next video so that viewers can follow along in their DAW as well. Stay tuned this week and thanks again for watching and subscribing !
For the secret ingredient, I usually would go one step further by using a multi band distortion plugin to separate frequencies that I want to saturate at different levels. (Learnt this one from the legendary Buster Odeholm)
Once again, great vid Brendon!
Buster is amazing. I've tried that exact same thing with Fab Filter Saturn 2 but I always end up getting some issue when trying to do that. But to be fair I had tried it on the Auxillery track and had realized devil loc was the one for that. I'll try it on the actual room mic track next time. Thanks for watching and for the tip!
Is there a cheap alternative to the UAD Channel Strip? I've never used a channel strip before and would like to test it out before I spend much on it. Is it even necessary for someone that doesn't record music professionally?
Not necessary but always nice to have. plug-in Alliance has a couple channel strips as well and I believe you can demo them
What about the presets of a drum plug in, they are already pre mixed actually, what kind of processing would you suggest
I always go raw samples out and do my own thing on a multi out. I like having the flexibility. Then I start with a eq or channel strip, compressor and then whatever else I may need
would you consider the same methods on real drum tracks?
More than likely. Except I’d obviously have to watch out for cymbal bleed
Hey man quick question, did you use any preset inside the counterkit and used any of the mix functions inside the plugin? Or are these raw ones, and then processing it? Already Sounding really nice without processing outside kontakt…
I just used the raw from what I remember. That’s how I typically like to mix drums. As if a drummer send me their stems. How are you going about it?
@@BrendonKPadjasek ah thanks! It’s my first time mixing counterkit as i’ve used to ggd, i’ll try to follow u’r method here hopefully it will sound like or close to it 😂
@diostaylow haha sounds good. If you want I made a newer video about mixing all the instruments. It’s an hour long but the first 20 are about drums and my slightly newer methods
@@BrendonKPadjasek will check that out! Thanks!!
@diostaylow no problem! It’ll work regardless of which drum program you’re using. As long as you know how to route them out, you’re good
Hi, u never highpass overhead channel? Do u just sum hihat ride and overheads into the same channel and process that?
Oh I do usually hi pass around 60 hz. This is an older video. In my more recent ones I would high pass it a bit
@BrendonKPadjasek oh I see now thank u. Why just 60? People usually cut it like at 300-500Hz
@@norbzys430 I've found that I lose too much of my kick drum and snare fundamental and it's harder to make sure it in phase with the kick and snare when you remove that much information. I also use my overheads for overall drum tone. So much of the life of the drums live in the overheads (and rooms) so I don't see why I'd remove the life out of it
@BrendonKPadjasek actually that absolutely makes sense. Do u have any videos on how to process additional lead melody guitars on top of quad tracked guitars?
These really don’t sound very real. Just being honest. I get your idea for the video but probably would be a better idea to use samples that don’t sound like machine guns. Regardless of velocities or any other post-processing: if the samples themselves sound bad, it will always sound bad no matter what.
Maybe try Steven Slate drums, or some of the other higher end SuperiorDrummer packs.
Thanks for watching anyways and you raise a good point Kevin. I guess for this specific song this is the amount of realness I was comfortable with. I guess if you want a "real" drum sound, use the raw samples and don't process them at all haha. But no one, myself included, want metal drums to sound THAT real.
Which drum library are you using atm? I've had SSD and it was cool, GGD Invasion is also up there for me.
In part 2 of the series I'm going to include the raw stems and MIDI so I'd love to hear how you can make them sound as well.
@@BrendonKPadjasek I'm also keen to hear Kevin's drums.