@@Annie_Xxxix56 I can assure you I am as much as a OP fan as you are if not more and I think the pacing of the anime is horrible and sometimes makes the anime unwatchable. I absolutely love the great story of OP written by Oda but I ain't a Toei boot licker.
the wano arc made me realize how poorly paced it was, despite being an action fest, a lot of time was wasted on needless recaps and flashbacks. So the only thing a remake needs to do is fix the pacing, while not rushing over important details and backstories. It is certainly a tough task but let's hope for the best.
@@Champizard ikr, how tf you take 190 episodes to adapt 150 chapters? I suppose the Egghead arc is good since they adapting one chapter per episode and also, the animation is fire 🔥. Toei may suckwith the pacing but recently, they have been cooking with their animation
I hope they get new voice cast and create there own ost. Obviously the pacing is the number 1 issue to address. Very much looking forward to the remake
The pacing only really becomes an issue around Ennies Lobby and even then it’s not bad until Fishman Island. The time skip needs a remake imo the most but that’s also the least likely to happen given Netflix’s track record of cancelling seasons.
@harshvardhansingh8883 Because One Piece is an "old" anime that is still going even 25+ years later which is unheard of. Plus, it's popularity exceeds 'most' other anime so naturally it garners more attention
This has been my dream for the past 10 years. One Piece manga is God-tier but let's be honest the anime sucks ass. Bad. Pre timeskip anime is ok at best. It's nice to watch and doesn't have as bad pacing issues but come on the quality is shit. Post timeskip on the otherhand is impossible to watch. I don't know a single person who has completed the dressrosa saga in the anime. People love to praise Wano but all the epileptic lightshows and michael bay effects are not same as good quality. And the pacing hasn't been improving that much either. BUT FINALLY my dream has come true. My favourite series made by a proper animation studio. I'm so fucking excited what a time to be a one piece fan 🔥🔥🔥
Wano is high quality. Especially onigashima. Many episodes improved on the manga chapter. Its not just effects. Many of the industry's top animators worked on it.
@@Champizard bro you and everyone cheering this project on are on something... 1100+ episodes and it isn't even done... There is an argument to remake other series like Naruto or Bleach but wtf!?!? 1100+ episodes and the OG series isn't even done??? Wtf is there also gonna be a re-remake to bring it up to 2042's standards of animation that's going start to coming out by the time the first remake is only half finished. 😂 From a logistics standpoint this is beyond scuffed, 80% of the people hype for this will literally be dead or in a retirement home sipping pea soup before the remake ends!!!
@@aidensnow5017It won't be 1000+ episodes, though. Modern anime pacing is adapting 2.5-4 chapters per episode, with heavy fight chapters being even more than that. Meanwhile, One Piece is currently adapting about half a chapter per episode, which is abysmal. There are currently 1119 One Piece chapters. At an average of 3 chapters adapted per episode, we'd end up with 373 episodes from those 1119 chapters. The anime is currently at 1109 episodes. We're talking about a reduction of about 750 episodes with proper pacing.
@@aidensnow5017retired? You do know it will easily take less than 20 years to adapt the remake right? Don’t have to worry about pacing and filler, plus the manga will be way past over by the time the remake gets to the later arcs if they’re planning on adapting the whole thing.
The most obvious oversight is that the original episodes were shot 4:3, this was't mentioned. This causes problems because of the extensive use of flashbacks as a narrative device. This was fixed by using footage for flashbacks from the film adaptations of the various arc. I don't like that your pacing analysis of the current anime is strictly a ratio of episodes to the manga. It's just not that simple. Some added footage in the anime is actally better than the manga. As a very simple example I'll state that there is no detailing of Nami getting bitten by the Kestia flea on Little Garden in the manga. This was detailed in anime with actual acknowledgement of the bite by Zoro asking what's bothering Nami. And there are continuity problems with this scene in manga, as well. Sanji shows up after the fight with the Alabasta Log Pose in episode 77 and charactistically notices that Nami's shirt is gone having been burnt off from the destruction of Mr. 3's sculpture. Nami gets mad at his observation and Sanji offers his coat as peace offering to calm her down. In the manga, Sanji just shows in one panel wearing the coat and in the next panel he's explaining the Den Den Mushi call from Mr. 0 with Nami inexplicably now wearing the coat. These details provide some foreshadowing to the reasons for the crew and Vivi to make the wise decision to reroute the ship to Drum Island rather than continue following their course to Alabasta. Not only is the foreshadowing added, it fixes the discontinuity in the manga. Another great scene in the anime is "The Walk." It's an epic scene in the anime that gives even more weight after Nami asks Luffy to help her with Arlong. In the manga Luffy just walks up to Usopp, Zoro and Sanji and tells them "Let's Go" and simultaneously the three replay "Right." Then after a single panel of Nami seeing this happen, there is a short cut to Johnny and Yosaku stopping the village mob from entering Arlong Park and a single panel within of Arlong and his crew discussing Zoro. A single panel results back to the villagers before Luffy just punches down the door as we flip the page. The Walk is not cannon, but it's a monumental anime moment with an epic soundtrack with beating drums and brass flourishes that becomes a staple in the anime as fanfare to all things that will forever become an epic event in the story. This is 1-1/2 minutes of filler that added a solid scene which dramatically betters the pacing of the storytelling of the One Piece tale. For many, this is the moment most people became fully invested into One Piece. Pacing isn't just speeding up the story, it's about adding moments of tension to give the story some breathing room between the cannonical scenes. It isn't just Nami asking for help. It's how immediate and committed Luffy and his crew are to correcting situations that affect fulfilling their dreams. Where pacing becomes an issue is much later than what is being suggested by what is currently marketed as included within The One Piece. This is currently only acknowledged to be the East Blue saga. And there is almost no filler in the animation of the East Blue episodes. And really the only significant time filler in the East Blue arc happens as they are exiting Loguetown and Usopp gets his goggles while Sanji wins the Elephant Tuna in a contest instead of just buying it. Other than that only the biggest filler issue is continuity with Zoro being prematurely able to cut steel on a couple of scenes which cannonically he can't do until Alabasta. So really, at this point from what has been announced is that pacing will be addressed with The One Piece. It will happen if The One Piece gets a green light by Netflix to continue into later sagas. Things like repeated stares before fight blows and unnecessary reiterations of flashbacks which do severely affect the story pacing will only be addressed then. Issues that will be fixed hopefully with The One Piece will be the removal of the extended recap flashbacks that start out each episode. Some of it is fine, as it does keep the continuity of the presence that there is an actual Narrator. But we don't need a ubiquitous highlight of film roll from immediate previous episode that is a significant portion of each episode. The removal of non-cannon filler arcs should be done. But it's not like all of the filler arcs were bad. Many of cannon cover stories were give some depth by the animation. This had a significant impact on world building within the story. As well, the G-8 arc is a brilliant segway after Skypiea which allows the Straw Hats acting more as a singular unit to show off some of the things they brought back, as well as adding reasoning for their pursuit of getting the Going Merry repaired after all the damage it incurred from events in both Drum Island and Skypiea. A lot of the newer members are given some of their first moment to shine. Usopp's attachment to the Merry is further explored and Robin is given a chance to show off her abilities to use her devil fruit powers to infiltrate resulting in the eventual creation of Condoriano "crew mate" by the imprisoned straw hats. It's brilliant shennanigans after more shennanigans. It's not cannon material, but G-8 is not bad pacing.
I agree with pretty much all of these points, especially with G-8. It honestly shouldn't even count as filler given how good it is. I'd love if someone working for Oda retroactively drew and published G-8 to ensure it gets properly adapted later, though that's never gonna happen haha
need soul in there, if you focus on quick pacing without souls, the story is dead like alabasta movie remake. the previous has credits for its souls and its build up although some is not in the manga but it helps to get the hype of the the series.
@@sarov7658except those were made to actually tell the story of the manga an not anime only BS. Plus let's be real Hiatus x Hiatus 99 was just as slow as the actual manga in terms of updating accept they didn't have the excuse of medical issues like Togashi does.
@@Drums_of_Liberation and how exactly is toeis one piece good to source material they even change the first chapter to episode pacing issues among many stuffs so my point stil stands
i don't get the it's to long argument it's dumb in my opinion cause all the people that i got into one piece say its to short and they need more 😂 and when i meet a random person that watches one piece they say the same thing the more the better.
The problem with one piece is really the earlier days. The animation sucks,the pacing sucks as well. It’s hard for new audiences to get through that. Remake is definitely needed.
ok without watching the video I have a feeling that you're gonna talk about the pacing of the anime... ONE VIDEO LATER... ohhhh brother how did I know lol. im just so tired of the pacing argument. I feel like 1000 other UA-cam creators have the same arguments you have in the video. I thought I was gonna get a different perspective from your video based on the title. but I guess not. don't creators such as yourself research the platform to make sure they don't oversaturate UA-cam with the same content. there's like hundreds of people making this same video. I even skipped over a "one piece's horrible pacing" video just to watch this one. I thought you were going to provide new context on the new anime, not talk shit about the old one.
Of course we need remake for FIXING PACING!
NO .... Because we like One Piece thats why we need its Remake...
Ps ... The criticism on One Piece Pacing is done by people are fake OnePieceFan
@@Annie_Xxxix56 I can assure you I am as much as a OP fan as you are if not more and I think the pacing of the anime is horrible and sometimes makes the anime unwatchable. I absolutely love the great story of OP written by Oda but I ain't a Toei boot licker.
That's one of the main points in this video
@@Annie_Xxxix56 The pacing is an issue. 😂
@nits6664 One Piece anime having abysmal pacing is an objective fact. Most episodes now adapt less than 1 chapter per episode
the wano arc made me realize how poorly paced it was, despite being an action fest, a lot of time was wasted on needless recaps and flashbacks. So the only thing a remake needs to do is fix the pacing, while not rushing over important details and backstories. It is certainly a tough task but let's hope for the best.
The problem is they can't catch up to the manga or else they won't have any content, I think this is why the anime is so bloated.
The Wano arc was sometimes adapting less than 1 chapter per episode
@@Champizard ikr, how tf you take 190 episodes to adapt 150 chapters? I suppose the Egghead arc is good since they adapting one chapter per episode and also, the animation is fire 🔥. Toei may suckwith the pacing but recently, they have been cooking with their animation
I hope they get new voice cast and create there own ost. Obviously the pacing is the number 1 issue to address. Very much looking forward to the remake
The pacing only really becomes an issue around Ennies Lobby and even then it’s not bad until Fishman Island.
The time skip needs a remake imo the most but that’s also the least likely to happen given Netflix’s track record of cancelling seasons.
Why does one piece receive so much attention compared to other older anime who don’t get a remake? (I’m playing devils advocate)
@harshvardhansingh8883 Because One Piece is an "old" anime that is still going even 25+ years later which is unheard of. Plus, it's popularity exceeds 'most' other anime so naturally it garners more attention
This has been my dream for the past 10 years. One Piece manga is God-tier but let's be honest the anime sucks ass. Bad. Pre timeskip anime is ok at best. It's nice to watch and doesn't have as bad pacing issues but come on the quality is shit. Post timeskip on the otherhand is impossible to watch. I don't know a single person who has completed the dressrosa saga in the anime. People love to praise Wano but all the epileptic lightshows and michael bay effects are not same as good quality. And the pacing hasn't been improving that much either. BUT FINALLY my dream has come true. My favourite series made by a proper animation studio. I'm so fucking excited what a time to be a one piece fan 🔥🔥🔥
I watched all arcs in anime I agree pacing was bad but ya but i enjoyed
Wano is high quality. Especially onigashima. Many episodes improved on the manga chapter. Its not just effects. Many of the industry's top animators worked on it.
do you think we my see one pice remake on One Piece Day is celebrated on July 22 as the anniversary of One Piece
The length and pacing isn’t an issue for me. 1100 episodes is not enough lol
I sentence you to watch dressrosa 10 times
The remake is not needed , its a nice addition , the old one piece anime is GOL D
I would say it's needed just due to the vast Inconsistency of the existing anime
@@Champizard bro you and everyone cheering this project on are on something... 1100+ episodes and it isn't even done...
There is an argument to remake other series like Naruto or Bleach but wtf!?!? 1100+ episodes and the OG series isn't even done??? Wtf is there also gonna be a re-remake to bring it up to 2042's standards of animation that's going start to coming out by the time the first remake is only half finished. 😂
From a logistics standpoint this is beyond scuffed, 80% of the people hype for this will literally be dead or in a retirement home sipping pea soup before the remake ends!!!
@@aidensnow5017It won't be 1000+ episodes, though. Modern anime pacing is adapting 2.5-4 chapters per episode, with heavy fight chapters being even more than that. Meanwhile, One Piece is currently adapting about half a chapter per episode, which is abysmal. There are currently 1119 One Piece chapters. At an average of 3 chapters adapted per episode, we'd end up with 373 episodes from those 1119 chapters. The anime is currently at 1109 episodes. We're talking about a reduction of about 750 episodes with proper pacing.
@@aidensnow5017retired? You do know it will easily take less than 20 years to adapt the remake right? Don’t have to worry about pacing and filler, plus the manga will be way past over by the time the remake gets to the later arcs if they’re planning on adapting the whole thing.
The One Piece is gonna be amazing when it comes out, but for now One Pace will have to do
The most obvious oversight is that the original episodes were shot 4:3, this was't mentioned. This causes problems because of the extensive use of flashbacks as a narrative device. This was fixed by using footage for flashbacks from the film adaptations of the various arc.
I don't like that your pacing analysis of the current anime is strictly a ratio of episodes to the manga. It's just not that simple. Some added footage in the anime is actally better than the manga. As a very simple example I'll state that there is no detailing of Nami getting bitten by the Kestia flea on Little Garden in the manga. This was detailed in anime with actual acknowledgement of the bite by Zoro asking what's bothering Nami. And there are continuity problems with this scene in manga, as well. Sanji shows up after the fight with the Alabasta Log Pose in episode 77 and charactistically notices that Nami's shirt is gone having been burnt off from the destruction of Mr. 3's sculpture. Nami gets mad at his observation and Sanji offers his coat as peace offering to calm her down. In the manga, Sanji just shows in one panel wearing the coat and in the next panel he's explaining the Den Den Mushi call from Mr. 0 with Nami inexplicably now wearing the coat. These details provide some foreshadowing to the reasons for the crew and Vivi to make the wise decision to reroute the ship to Drum Island rather than continue following their course to Alabasta. Not only is the foreshadowing added, it fixes the discontinuity in the manga.
Another great scene in the anime is "The Walk." It's an epic scene in the anime that gives even more weight after Nami asks Luffy to help her with Arlong. In the manga Luffy just walks up to Usopp, Zoro and Sanji and tells them "Let's Go" and simultaneously the three replay "Right." Then after a single panel of Nami seeing this happen, there is a short cut to Johnny and Yosaku stopping the village mob from entering Arlong Park and a single panel within of Arlong and his crew discussing Zoro. A single panel results back to the villagers before Luffy just punches down the door as we flip the page. The Walk is not cannon, but it's a monumental anime moment with an epic soundtrack with beating drums and brass flourishes that becomes a staple in the anime as fanfare to all things that will forever become an epic event in the story. This is 1-1/2 minutes of filler that added a solid scene which dramatically betters the pacing of the storytelling of the One Piece tale. For many, this is the moment most people became fully invested into One Piece. Pacing isn't just speeding up the story, it's about adding moments of tension to give the story some breathing room between the cannonical scenes. It isn't just Nami asking for help. It's how immediate and committed Luffy and his crew are to correcting situations that affect fulfilling their dreams.
Where pacing becomes an issue is much later than what is being suggested by what is currently marketed as included within The One Piece. This is currently only acknowledged to be the East Blue saga. And there is almost no filler in the animation of the East Blue episodes. And really the only significant time filler in the East Blue arc happens as they are exiting Loguetown and Usopp gets his goggles while Sanji wins the Elephant Tuna in a contest instead of just buying it. Other than that only the biggest filler issue is continuity with Zoro being prematurely able to cut steel on a couple of scenes which cannonically he can't do until Alabasta. So really, at this point from what has been announced is that pacing will be addressed with The One Piece. It will happen if The One Piece gets a green light by Netflix to continue into later sagas. Things like repeated stares before fight blows and unnecessary reiterations of flashbacks which do severely affect the story pacing will only be addressed then.
Issues that will be fixed hopefully with The One Piece will be the removal of the extended recap flashbacks that start out each episode. Some of it is fine, as it does keep the continuity of the presence that there is an actual Narrator. But we don't need a ubiquitous highlight of film roll from immediate previous episode that is a significant portion of each episode.
The removal of non-cannon filler arcs should be done. But it's not like all of the filler arcs were bad. Many of cannon cover stories were give some depth by the animation. This had a significant impact on world building within the story. As well, the G-8 arc is a brilliant segway after Skypiea which allows the Straw Hats acting more as a singular unit to show off some of the things they brought back, as well as adding reasoning for their pursuit of getting the Going Merry repaired after all the damage it incurred from events in both Drum Island and Skypiea. A lot of the newer members are given some of their first moment to shine. Usopp's attachment to the Merry is further explored and Robin is given a chance to show off her abilities to use her devil fruit powers to infiltrate resulting in the eventual creation of Condoriano "crew mate" by the imprisoned straw hats. It's brilliant shennanigans after more shennanigans. It's not cannon material, but G-8 is not bad pacing.
I agree with pretty much all of these points, especially with G-8. It honestly shouldn't even count as filler given how good it is. I'd love if someone working for Oda retroactively drew and published G-8 to ensure it gets properly adapted later, though that's never gonna happen haha
I ain’t reading allat
@@looeygToo many words for your TikTok brain.
@@torchlight1785 buddy it’s an essay in a yt comment section + I don’t even use tiktok 😭🙏
@@looeyg I’m sorry you don’t have the ability to skim read or read paragraphs fast.
Too much saturation for the market will be bad. Manga, og anime, live action, now a new anime. Might be too much
You can never have enough
isn't it ironic how you (of all people) talk about pacing...
What does this mean? 🤣
need soul in there, if you focus on quick pacing without souls, the story is dead like alabasta movie remake. the previous has credits for its souls and its build up although some is not in the manga but it helps to get the hype of the the series.
We can all speculate a lot of things about this remake but in the end, this is made for Netflix to capitalize the OP fandom.
Same for any anime tbh hxh remake fmab remake etc this was meant to happen sooner or later Netflix just made it sooner to profit off
@@sarov7658except those were made to actually tell the story of the manga an not anime only BS. Plus let's be real Hiatus x Hiatus 99 was just as slow as the actual manga in terms of updating accept they didn't have the excuse of medical issues like Togashi does.
@@Drums_of_Liberation and how exactly is toeis one piece good to source material they even change the first chapter to episode pacing issues among many stuffs so my point stil stands
Just read the damn manga if you hate the pacing. Fuck that anime
i don't get the it's to long argument it's dumb in my opinion cause all the people that i got into one piece say its to short and they need more 😂 and when i meet a random person that watches one piece they say the same thing the more the better.
The problem with one piece is really the earlier days. The animation sucks,the pacing sucks as well. It’s hard for new audiences to get through that. Remake is definitely needed.
ok without watching the video I have a feeling that you're gonna talk about the pacing of the anime...
ONE VIDEO LATER...
ohhhh brother how did I know lol. im just so tired of the pacing argument. I feel like 1000 other UA-cam creators have the same arguments you have in the video. I thought I was gonna get a different perspective from your video based on the title. but I guess not. don't creators such as yourself research the platform to make sure they don't oversaturate UA-cam with the same content. there's like hundreds of people making this same video. I even skipped over a "one piece's horrible pacing" video just to watch this one. I thought you were going to provide new context on the new anime, not talk shit about the old one.
That is one of the points 😂 naturally. Couldn't leave it out
the pacing sucks tho
Why are you so mad? If the pacing is awful, its obvious that will be mentioned hahahha