I just got a great deal on a 1owner 2004/95-2.3Turbo for my son,its color is polar white ,everything is great on it except the clearcoat ,the sun hear in Lousiana puts the hurt on paint,so we will wet sand it&tape it up&spray it&should look good its only needing sprayed on the top portions of the car,but wow it runs good&new tires&battery&my son really likes it&im glad.
Hi Jonathan, Just want to confirm that cutting the blue/white wire (pin 10) is what disables the Xenons from activating in position 0. I attempted what somebody else suggested, and covered the pin with tape, but the xenons still turned on in position 0. The plug is quite firm, so its very possible that the tape moved when I plugged it back in. Just want to make sure that this is the correct wire to cut before I do something crazy!
@@TrionicSeven hey Jonathan. Just disconnected pin 10 and the xenons still turn on no matter what position. I have a 2008, and am located in Canada so DRLs are standard. Pin 10 is a blue and white wire. Is there something else that needs to be done to turn off xenons on later model cars? Or is it something that needs to be disabled in the Tech II?
Don't cut wires in your nice Saab, I used normal transparent tape and put it on the pin in the connector as insulator. Much more easy to revert your changes. The tape was pierced on one of the two cars I did it on but on try 2 it worked.
Hi, Jonathan. I bought a used 2004 9-5 here in the USA. It is something very strange in the light mode. At the very left position, I have my front and rear lights ON. In the top position, parking lights are ON, and front and rear fog lights can be activated. But at the very right position, there is no light at all; everything is OFF, even the dashboard is not lighting. The high beam works at any position as long as you pool and hold the stick, otherwise, it is not switching. Do you have any idea what could it be? Tech2 mods? British mode (opposite direction of the switch)? Please advise 🙏
Haha, you got me. Here's the thing: I forgot to shoot a video for mode 0 when flashing the high-beams. Therefore I quickly edited together something that would look like it. But in the rush to get it done I messed up and, as you pointed out, it was wrong. When the high beam flashes in mode zero I think everything lights up but I actually have to check! I didn't know I edited the wrong sequence into the high-beam flash into mode zero :)
You have a button on your light switch with mode zero mode one and mode two. What does that button do for your car? I have a 200 19-3 sedan and I do not know what my button does
Great mod. I noticed you have bulbs in both sides of the headlights. Having just changed my D1S bulbs on both sides, I found the outer lens, on both, had no bulbs behind them. And no bulb socket hardware, and no plugs or wiring. Does this sound normal? I'd like to install some H7 bulbs there, to relieve the load on the HIDs, when in low beam. Do you know of a kit that would provide some bulb holders & H7 wiring to support this install? I'm in US with 2007 9-5.
Thanks for being so quick on the reply. At least, now I know, my car hasn't been stripped of lights. Is there a kit, or way to obtain sockets/wiring to upgrade my lights to European configuration?
And..if you need fog lights and the low beams on? What do you do if there is foggy weather? High beams in the fog is worse..you don't see anything (Sorry for my bad english)
Also, I noticed your car does not appear to have the "accent" light strip along the top of the headlight housing - was wondering if you know anything about that light strip? Mine only comes on when you have the head switch in position one of your video above. It does not come on during "daytime" running light and was wondering why not.
I have a 2007 saab 9-5 with xenon headlights. In the u.s. they had daytime running lights, so no inner halogen lights, just the shutter on the xenon for high/low beam. The shutters still open when high beams are turned on, but no longer stay open like they are supposed to. Have you seen this before on the 06 to 09 headlights? Any help is appreciated
Hi Jonathan and thanks for this excellent, useful and informative video. Now the days are getting shorter I notice more and more how drivers are either ignorant of the law regarding fogs & low beams together, or they simply think it's cool. Anyway, I had my dealership programme the Raven as you've described, and it works fine - no more oncoming bus drivers flashing angrily at me. A couple of suggestions in connection with this - replace the stock parking (positioning) bulbs with LEDs, the best quality you can afford, to improve on the relatively 'yellow' light, plus upgrade the actual foglights themselves to a high intensity LED or the best possible (H7?) nightbreaker or other white-light halogen bulbs there, and even in the main beam... Haven't researched it properly yet, but I'd like to have Xenon for all points there, except the parking lights of course. Your thoughts, Il Dottore? ;)
When picking out LED for foglights, make sure they are not blindingly bright as that will be bad for oncoming traffic. And for the inspection/MOT, just pull the fog light fuse and they won't check it ;)
Yes, the car will pass inspection if both fog lights are out of order, but fail if just one of them lights up :p So either no fog lights (with LED lights disabled by removed fused) or both with regular halogen bulbs.
Hah, yeah I've inspected cars both in Switzerland and Sweden, and the swiss are much more strict. We even had to get an engine wash in order to pass :)
Hi. I cut the white and blue cabel yesterday. When i change to nightmode my xenon just glove. The full beam work. I have not been in with tech2. So maybe that will fix the problem? I live in Norway.
Hi Jonathan, I'm following your videos already since a while, they are great and quite "direct to the point" so, first of all, thanks a lot! I have a couple of questions, may be you can help me, my 9-5 was imported from Sweden so it has still the setting preventing to use fog and low beam lights at the same time. In Italy it is allowed to use low beam and fog lights at the same time but it is prohibited to use fog lights while there is actually no fog (the police gives fines for that). I would like to configure my head lights differently. I would prefer to be able to turn on fog lights and low beams at the same time with the lights switch in position 2. I imagine that I should select a different alternative for fog lights with the Tech2 instrument. And the other question: in position 0 I would like everything off, both position and low beam lights. I guess that in this case may be there is another alternative to select for "day lights" with the Tech2. So may be I can just select those two options with Tech2 even without to cut any wire. What do you think? Do you know what are doing the others alternatives? Thanks again!
So, I reply to myself. In order to be able to use the Tech2 instrument I went to a Saab dealer. To make the fog lights to stay on together with low beam lights in position 2 I selected alternative 1. Before I had alternative 3 selected. I'm curios what alternative 2 would do, unfortunately I had no time to experiment there. To have everything off in position 0, including the illumination of dashboard it is really simple: just remove fuse number 35 (15 amps) the one for daytime lights.
Question. I have 03 93 Se my high beams wont stay engaged. And my low beams only work when the dial is all the way to zero (Pointed to the left towards driver side window)
Fog lights should only be used when it is foggy as they are flood lights and dazzle oncoming traffic. They are not designed to direct light down like a headlight.
Hey I got one question for you my car got a regular yellow light I Exchange it with after market led light since that the car show me a massage that's failure head light do you think there's is a program for that!
It is possibly because the LED,s you have used, have too little resistance, so that the car thinks a bulb is not working. Either switch to "canbus-ready" LED's, or add resistots to the current LED's
No, 9-3 wont fit, even if it look similar. ..However, that is the steering wheel in the video is what all 07 aeros should have from factory, the so called "logitech wheel" or "tv-spelsratten" in swedish. I think its awful and replaced it in my Aero '07 with the vector steering wheel without that awful plastic. (The vector steering wheel looks like the 04-05 aero steering wheel)
Hey Trionic Seven, how did you get your inner lights to work as high beams. I have a 2006 and the inner lights are blank and outer are just a single xenon with the shutter.
Vilken bra fråga? Jag är rätt säker på att det är en 2006 (dvs. med glasögon på lyktorna). Men är rätt säker på att din bil antingen har rosa eller blå/vit kabel, inte båda :)
Trionic Seven Tja! Jag klippte just den blå-vita kabeln på min 9-5 2006 Vector. Jag har ingen Tech2 så jag tänkte att jag får mecka med dimljusknappen varje gång. Men glädjande nog så stänger dimljuset av automatiskt när jag går till "läge 2". Så alltså: I min bil är nu "läge 0" dimljus och parkeringsljus och "läge 2" halvljus. Helt utan Tech2 och knapptryck! 👍 Antingen har bilen "rätt inställning" från fabrik eller så har någon tidigare ägare ändrat med Tech2.
Ja jo, men du vet alltså inte vilka alternativ som är vad? Har själv dragit DRL säkringen, så 0 är helt släckt. Ville bara ha "dimljus vid helljus" - funktionen
Ja, som det står i videon, sätt dimljusinställningen till nr. 3 (om jag minns rätt) med tech2. Har inte WIS på mig just nu, men där står alla alternativ beskrivna.
Hi trionic. I cut the blue and white wire going to pin number 10 on my 2007 9-5 American model and the fog lights do not come on when in the on position with the headlight switch in position 0. I have not done the tech 2 programming but I thought you said this will work manually. Any ideas? Now I'm worried that I cut something important, however my xenon headlights are working normally as they should
There are two other things (AFAIK) that you can program, too. I think they're called something like headlight programming or similar. If you have a tech2, browse around and you'll find it.
Actually using foglights with high beams dosent help with visibility in dark, actually it is dangerous to drive so. The foglights makes your visibility worse because the foglights will blind you, yes it seems that there is more light but acutally the light from fogs emits only right in front of the car but this light will make your pupils contract and you cannot see to the far wich is way more important. Please dont couriage people do to so, or do it your self because its dangerous.
Laser Red is a seriously awesome colour on Saabs! My 9-3 is the same colour.
I agree! Laser Red is the best :)
Totally! :)
I just got a great deal on a 1owner 2004/95-2.3Turbo for my son,its color is polar white ,everything is great on it except the clearcoat ,the sun hear in Lousiana puts the hurt on paint,so we will wet sand it&tape it up&spray it&should look good its only needing sprayed on the top portions of the car,but wow it runs good&new tires&battery&my son really likes it&im glad.
Hi Jonathan,
Just want to confirm that cutting the blue/white wire (pin 10) is what disables the Xenons from activating in position 0. I attempted what somebody else suggested, and covered the pin with tape, but the xenons still turned on in position 0. The plug is quite firm, so its very possible that the tape moved when I plugged it back in.
Just want to make sure that this is the correct wire to cut before I do something crazy!
Try to push the pin out from the connector with a paperclip or something. That way it's completely reversible!
@@TrionicSeven hey Jonathan.
Just disconnected pin 10 and the xenons still turn on no matter what position.
I have a 2008, and am located in Canada so DRLs are standard. Pin 10 is a blue and white wire.
Is there something else that needs to be done to turn off xenons on later model cars? Or is it something that needs to be disabled in the Tech II?
Could be some thing with the CA model that is unknown to me...
Just did this mod on my second 9-5, works great!
That's great!
In the UK front fogs shout not be engaged unless the weather dictates. Fit DLR instead
Yes, rules are different everywhere
Great video! My 2011
SAAB 9.3 Convertible does not have Fog Lights. I wish you could make a "How To" video for that! Thx.
Don't cut wires in your nice Saab, I used normal transparent tape and put it on the pin in the connector as insulator. Much more easy to revert your changes. The tape was pierced on one of the two cars I did it on but on try 2 it worked.
That's actually a great idea, thanks for sharing!
Hi, Jonathan. I bought a used 2004 9-5 here in the USA. It is something very strange in the light mode. At the very left position, I have my front and rear lights ON. In the top position, parking lights are ON, and front and rear fog lights can be activated. But at the very right position, there is no light at all; everything is OFF, even the dashboard is not lighting. The high beam works at any position as long as you pool and hold the stick, otherwise, it is not switching. Do you have any idea what could it be? Tech2 mods? British mode (opposite direction of the switch)? Please advise 🙏
Great video. I need something like that for my 9-3
Glad you liked it!
I notice that in position 0 and position 2, when you flashed your main beam, the fog lights turned off with the main beam turning off.
Haha, you got me. Here's the thing: I forgot to shoot a video for mode 0 when flashing the high-beams. Therefore I quickly edited together something that would look like it. But in the rush to get it done I messed up and, as you pointed out, it was wrong. When the high beam flashes in mode zero I think everything lights up but I actually have to check! I didn't know I edited the wrong sequence into the high-beam flash into mode zero :)
@@TrionicSeven any more news on that note? Is there an alternative to Tech 2 through the usual Trionic programs?
You have a button on your light switch with mode zero mode one and mode two. What does that button do for your car? I have a 200 19-3 sedan and I do not know what my button does
Really cool, worked like a charm, my question is, do you know if there is some similar mod to do on a V70n - 01?
Great mod.
I noticed you have bulbs in both sides of the headlights. Having just changed my D1S bulbs on both sides, I found the outer lens, on both, had no bulbs behind them. And no bulb socket hardware, and no plugs or wiring. Does this sound normal? I'd like to install some H7 bulbs there, to relieve the load on the HIDs, when in low beam. Do you know of a kit that would provide some bulb holders & H7 wiring to support this install? I'm in US with 2007 9-5.
US cars have no high beam inner bulbs.
Thanks for being so quick on the reply. At least, now I know, my car hasn't been stripped of lights. Is there a kit, or way to obtain sockets/wiring to upgrade my lights to European configuration?
Would love to see how you would go about putting an aftermarket head unit in this car or in my case a 2007 Saab 9-3.
Hey man, thanks for stopping by. For my own part, I'll keep the stock head unit, so unfortunately I can't make a vid about that. Sorry! :)
i have a 2008 saab 9-3 and have an aftermarket unit , can send u pictures if you want :)
Hey Trionic, just wondering what the pink/blue-white wire actually does? I cannot find that information anywhere on the internet.
Väldigt bra, Jonathan! (y)
Tack
Thanks :D
And..if you need fog lights and the low beams on? What do you do if there is foggy weather?
High beams in the fog is worse..you don't see anything
(Sorry for my bad english)
Also, I noticed your car does not appear to have the "accent" light strip along the top of the headlight housing - was wondering if you know anything about that light strip? Mine only comes on when you have the head switch in position one of your video above. It does not come on during "daytime" running light and was wondering why not.
That is only on the facelift ng9-3
I have a 2007 saab 9-5 with xenon headlights. In the u.s. they had daytime running lights, so no inner halogen lights, just the shutter on the xenon for high/low beam. The shutters still open when high beams are turned on, but no longer stay open like they are supposed to. Have you seen this before on the 06 to 09 headlights? Any help is appreciated
in mode "2" they should stay open. In mode "0" they don't. Move the switch to the "2", ie 2pm position and check if it works now
Hi Jonathan and thanks for this excellent, useful and informative video. Now the days are getting shorter I notice more and more how drivers are either ignorant of the law regarding fogs & low beams together, or they simply think it's cool. Anyway, I had my dealership programme the Raven as you've described, and it works fine - no more oncoming bus drivers flashing angrily at me. A couple of suggestions in connection with this - replace the stock parking (positioning) bulbs with LEDs, the best quality you can afford, to improve on the relatively 'yellow' light, plus upgrade the actual foglights themselves to a high intensity LED or the best possible (H7?) nightbreaker or other white-light halogen bulbs there, and even in the main beam... Haven't researched it properly yet, but I'd like to have Xenon for all points there, except the parking lights of course. Your thoughts, Il Dottore? ;)
Paul Greer LED is not legal to retrofit in foglight. Besiktningen will give you 2 if they notice.
When picking out LED for foglights, make sure they are not blindingly bright as that will be bad for oncoming traffic. And for the inspection/MOT, just pull the fog light fuse and they won't check it ;)
I've seen people putting in HID foglights, I guess the Saab forum has more info.
Yes, the car will pass inspection if both fog lights are out of order, but fail if just one of them lights up :p
So either no fog lights (with LED lights disabled by removed fused) or both with regular halogen bulbs.
Hah, yeah I've inspected cars both in Switzerland and Sweden, and the swiss are much more strict. We even had to get an engine wash in order to pass :)
Hi. I cut the white and blue cabel yesterday. When i change to nightmode my xenon just glove. The full beam work. I have not been in with tech2. So maybe that will fix the problem? I live in Norway.
Which model year? I'd ask in our forum: facebook.com/groups/733705113501723/
Hi Jonathan,
I'm following your videos already since a while, they are great and quite "direct to the point" so, first of all, thanks a lot!
I have a couple of questions, may be you can help me, my 9-5 was imported from Sweden so it has still the setting preventing to use fog and low beam lights at the same time.
In Italy it is allowed to use low beam and fog lights at the same time but it is prohibited to use fog lights while there is actually no fog (the police gives fines for that).
I would like to configure my head lights differently. I would prefer to be able to turn on fog lights and low beams at the same time with the lights switch in position 2. I imagine that I should select a different alternative for fog lights with the Tech2 instrument. And the other question: in position 0 I would like everything off, both position and low beam lights. I guess that in this case may be there is another alternative to select for "day lights" with the Tech2. So may be I can just select those two options with Tech2 even without to cut any wire. What do you think?
Do you know what are doing the others alternatives?
Thanks again!
So, I reply to myself.
In order to be able to use the Tech2 instrument I went to a Saab dealer.
To make the fog lights to stay on together with low beam lights in position 2 I selected alternative 1. Before I had alternative 3 selected. I'm curios what alternative 2 would do, unfortunately I had no time to experiment there.
To have everything off in position 0, including the illumination of dashboard it is really simple: just remove fuse number 35 (15 amps) the one for daytime lights.
Sorry, your comment was caught in the spam filter. Glad you got it sorted out!
Question. I have 03 93 Se my high beams wont stay engaged. And my low beams only work when the dial is all the way to zero (Pointed to the left towards driver side window)
Sorry, the 03 9-3 is completely different. Ask this question in our community forum: facebook.com/groups/733705113501723/
my foglights dont turn on in mode 0, even when button is pressed what do i do?
Detta blev första testet med den nyinköpta tech2:an🙂
Har du tröttnat på den och vill sälja den? 😁
Fog lights should only be used when it is foggy as they are flood lights and dazzle oncoming traffic. They are not designed to direct light down like a headlight.
Diagree. They won't dazzle anyone.
Fair enough but if you drive in the UK with them on don't be surprised to get stopped for that reason; www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q400.htm
Sure. Next time in the UK I'll do so. However, UK and Swedish law is different on this point. :)
Stupid is still stupid no matter what country. What a idiototic video. Why not put neon underneath too
Why do you watch a video that you have no interest in? That is stupidity..
Hey I got one question for you my car got a regular yellow light I Exchange it with after market led light since that the car show me a massage that's failure head light do you think there's is a program for that!
You need to be more clear. What light?
It is possibly because the LED,s you have used, have too little resistance, so that the car thinks a bulb is not working. Either switch to "canbus-ready" LED's, or add resistots to the current LED's
rear fog light of a 9-3 2006 sport combi
Does the car have “lead me to the car”?
I want the steering wheel you have for my 07 9-5 Aero. Is it the same one available for the.9-3 04-2011 ? Many thanks
Not sure about the 9-3, sorry.
No, 9-3 wont fit, even if it look similar. ..However, that is the steering wheel in the video is what all 07 aeros should have from factory, the so called "logitech wheel" or "tv-spelsratten" in swedish. I think its awful and replaced it in my Aero '07 with the vector steering wheel without that awful plastic. (The vector steering wheel looks like the 04-05 aero steering wheel)
Hey Trionic Seven, how did you get your inner lights to work as high beams. I have a 2006 and the inner lights are blank and outer are just a single xenon with the shutter.
From the comments on the vid it seems like US cars don't have that high beam lamp. In Sweden we do, I guess it's a difference in markets.
Trionic Seven this may be worth me figuring out how to get the wiring setup properly lol would help a lot with nighttime visibility
Wonder if you have a lamp cover in the back of the headlight that you can open up. Is there a space for a bulb inside there?
Trionic Seven there is space for the bulb however the wiring is non existent.
the wiering is in the lamp so you will have to get the eu-spec one to get the european highbeam
So what’s the point of cutting the wire ?
There are 3 mechanics that have the tech2 but none of them know how to turn off my DRL :(
Räcker de inte med att dra säkringen för DRL? Gjorde de på min -02 iaf :)
Vilken säkring är DRL? Kan kolla i WIS :)
säkring 35 är det 15a, men den säkringen gör så att man kan släcka ljuset helt vid läge 0 , gjorde så på min 01a och min 07a :)
Min 9-5a är tillverkad 31a december 2005. Är det då en 2005a eller en 2006a?
Vill inte klippa fel kabel :-)
Vilken bra fråga? Jag är rätt säker på att det är en 2006 (dvs. med glasögon på lyktorna). Men är rätt säker på att din bil antingen har rosa eller blå/vit kabel, inte båda :)
Trionic Seven Tack för det bra svaret! Den har "nya fronten".
Trionic Seven Tja! Jag klippte just den blå-vita kabeln på min 9-5 2006 Vector.
Jag har ingen Tech2 så jag tänkte att jag får mecka med dimljusknappen varje gång. Men glädjande nog så stänger dimljuset av automatiskt när jag går till "läge 2".
Så alltså: I min bil är nu "läge 0" dimljus och parkeringsljus och "läge 2" halvljus.
Helt utan Tech2 och knapptryck! 👍
Antingen har bilen "rätt inställning" från fabrik eller så har någon tidigare ägare ändrat med Tech2.
Vad var det som aktiverade dimljusen när man slår i helljus? Vilket alternativ var det? :)
Den programmeringen/ändringen jag gjorde med tech2 :)
Ja jo, men du vet alltså inte vilka alternativ som är vad? Har själv dragit DRL säkringen, så 0 är helt släckt. Ville bara ha "dimljus vid helljus" - funktionen
Ja, som det står i videon, sätt dimljusinställningen till nr. 3 (om jag minns rätt) med tech2. Har inte WIS på mig just nu, men där står alla alternativ beskrivna.
Where do you find what the different options are?
WIS
what is the autobox model? is good?
Sorry, autobox?
Vad är det för resultat med att klippa sladden till pin 10?
Man släcker halvljuset i det vänstra läget så bara positions/parkeringsljuset lyser. Se annars hans äldre video om det här moddet.
What he said!
You should change the fog lights to xenon 35w and do a video about it
Interesting idea! Might do it, though it's not a high priority. I like the look as-is.
om du vill ha färg men inte så mycket funktion så har xenonkungen en bra led-lampa som jag satte i min 07a i dimljus och de såg riktigt bra ut :)
Hi trionic. I cut the blue and white wire going to pin number 10 on my 2007 9-5 American model and the fog lights do not come on when in the on position with the headlight switch in position 0. I have not done the tech 2 programming but I thought you said this will work manually. Any ideas? Now I'm worried that I cut something important, however my xenon headlights are working normally as they should
There are two other things (AFAIK) that you can program, too. I think they're called something like headlight programming or similar. If you have a tech2, browse around and you'll find it.
Our community forum should be able to help, US cars are always a bit different. facebook.com/groups/733705113501723/
Laser röd
Best color.
Actually using foglights with high beams dosent help with visibility in dark, actually it is dangerous to drive so. The foglights makes your visibility worse because the foglights will blind you, yes it seems that there is more light but acutally the light from fogs emits only right in front of the car but this light will make your pupils contract and you cannot see to the far wich is way more important. Please dont couriage people do to so, or do it your self because its dangerous.
The idea of using fogs as day lights, is on the other hand very useful and practical. I have done same on many cars.
Be wary, though. In some countries it is illegal to use foglights if the situation does not call for it.
but in sweden it is legall to have fog and positionlight on daytime :)
2006 Saab 9-3 u mean
What?
Can you do a video to cover Saab 9-3 se linear tid from 2008? Having just bought one need to know about it and and mod ideas 👌
Sorry, I only have 9-5 cars to work on :)