+Randy Peters (Portrait Artist) i don't think the dog became deaf from that cause their ears can remove that extremely loud noise almost like comtacs you know so i think the dog is ok! xD
While his scope offered a maximum magnification of 25X, Harrison had to zoom out to 15X magnification to see his point of aim on the crosshairs due to the first focal plane reticle. Though this doesn't affect the ballistics in any way, in terms of recreating the shot you could've lowered the magnification accordingly. Even though your ingame scope is ffp as well, all of the outer mildots are still visible when fully zoomed in which i find a bit irritating. In addition (according to Harrison's book): It was nowhere near as hot as 38°C but rather very mild and there was no air flickering/wavering whatsoever. While this provided clear visibility, lower temperatures meant higher air density, therefore higher air resistance and a shorter maximum effective range. I'm not hating, just complementing. Very well done.
I love it. Thanks for the valuable info. I know this wasn't done perfectly, and I should have taken more time into it, but for the sake of VICE motherboard... I rushed a few aspects of the recreation. I would love to make more advanced ballistic/advanced sniper videos. I feel like there is that small niche community who takes sniping seriously that I really want to get involved with. However, I have life to deal with, and sitting down and making a video has gotten away from me. Hopefully I can continue to put out quality content... Appreciate the attention to detail
+tSp289 That's correct. Nine test shots in a different direction, then first aimed shot hit the gunner, second aimed shot hit the target trying to pick up the machine gun and the third shot destroyed the machine gun (Which is THE perfect combination of skill, conditions and luck).
This is neat, I wonder who dislikes something like this. It's just having fun. The gentleman TRex you refer to in your video is a master of teaching long range shooting. If you have the time and dedication he'll have you hitting at 1000+.
Why would you continue to fiddle with your miliradian (or is it M.O.A?) adjustments? When the miss is that slight, you could've easily aimed off by the same amount you're missing by and nailed t in two shots.
+Kill3rCat We weren't under time constraints and adjusting a scope in ACE is much easier than real life. There is adequate time to adjust scope and maintain corrections for subsequent shots - hold offs are not as reliable due to shooter recoil, breathing, memorizing point of aim after reload, etc. At 8:15 I was applying hold offs based on the very visible green trajectory line. Sort of cheating... Under time constraints I fully agree. It makes sense to apply hold offs to subsequent shots if the target is fleeing to cover.
For informational reasons. When you take shots at this range you have to take literally everything into account. Coriolis Effect, Barometric Pressure, Altitude, Spin Drift, Heat of: the bullet, barrel, powder, air at target and rifle, Dew Point, Moisture in the air and on the round, Drop and Wind, Weight of the bullet, and a few other things I cant remember off the top of my head.
bah this is boring, jerry miculek is doing a headshot at this distance onehanded, with a .22 pistol, blind over his shoulder while riding a horse backwards thats hanging off a helicopter!
The Brits really do love their long range kills. First this sniper kill at 2475 meters then you've got the longest tank kill with a challenger tank 4700 meters and let's not forget about the HMS Warspite hitting a moving ship at 24km.
Super interesting video and nice concept. I'd love to see more reenacted shooting records like that. If thats possible for you, it would be great to get a longer version to see all the calculations you made. For the less interested users, you could then add a "skip to *minute:second*"-button. Anyway, thanks for sharing!
where did you get that three number? the wind could be the same the entire distance or change 15 times not 3. there's no way to get the speed at the target or the middle, but you can just survey things like leaves blowing and make a guess.
'Corporal of Horse'. Lol. We Brits can be somewhat silly sometimes with our archaic titles and military ranks. Now, if Cpl. Craig Harrison had pulled that shot off *on horseback*, well, every enemy of the UK should tremble in fear. Craig's out to get'cha.
How exactly is it archaic? He's part of a cavalry regiment. In active duty they have switched from horses to light armoured vehicles, but their role is exactly the same as horse cavalry in any historical period, mainly recce and harassment.
Was this shot made off a stable bipod? The wind may have changed a dozen times before reaching the target. I am eager to try 1000yards with 7.62 and compare it to my real custom rifle here in Texas. Recoil doesn't seem to be factored in, unless using a suppressor.
There are reports of a longer shot that was a confirmed kill. It involved Delta COY 2 Commando at 2,815m. Problem being that it was a simultaneous shot buy two separate .50cal Barrett M82's at different positions. The target was a confirmed kill but the kill cannot be attributed to an individual therefore its not being confirmed as the longest recorded kill. The Australian Army has also not confirmed this as 2 Commando is part of the Special Operations Task Group (SOTG) details of their missions are highly guarded.
luck was on his side but he definitely knew what he was doing. He fired 9 practice shots in a different direction and then 2 killing blows on targets and 1 shot to disable the gun itself. British snipers do not depend on luck.
I have limited knowledge of ballistics so sorry if I sound dumb, but I'm just curious, is there a long enough range at which even if you were to hit your target it would be non lethal? Like for instance a headshot might just result in an open wound w/burns or a serious concussion but not deadly?
Yes but it would be extremely difficult to pull off. You would need the perfect distance and firing angle to make the round travel far enough while losing enough speed to be non lethal.
That record has already been broken. I think it was by a Canadian who killed 2 machine gunners from a distance over 2 miles. And I believe he used a .50 cal rifle although I don't remember the name of his weapon.
One great shot was by Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock, United States Marines. He got a confirmed kill using a M2 Browning machine gun mounted with a telescopic scope at 2,286m (2,500 yd). Scopes where still new back then. He made this shot in 1967 and held it for 35 years until it was broken in 2002. It's quite remarkable how he held the record for that long without even using a normal rifle and scope that just recently been introduced into war.
The world's longest shot is 3250m. It was done in a controlled environment. No air (with that I dont mean that there was no oxygen), the shot was adjusted for around 20 minutes to be perfect. Not like this shot, but its still, the world's longest shot
I have been for the past month looking for an arma group that takes sniping seriously with advanced ballistics and wind deflection enabled. I like what your doing here if I can roll with you in arma that'd be sweet. Let me know if we can get in touch.
I have hit a shot like that on arma 3 king of the hill but I don't remember if it was over 2450m but I know it was over 2420m for sure but didn't think much of it
ACE is not a gun, ACE is a mod which will bring some more realism. As you can see in the video, he's taking temperature and wind conditions for example, those stuff are more related when compared to real life.
my best Shot in arma 3 was in wasteland 1.2 km with mk 200 and mrco x) i mean its not my longest shot but i think with this gun it was pretty good and yes i know ace mod is a diffrent skillevel
Dude, Harrison's dope for that shot was approximately 47 Mils. You maxed out your elevation adjustment to 30 Mils & only held 4 Mils (so your dope was only 34 Mils)?!! it's 13 Mils different from the real shot. Are you sure you used the exact same loadout? :\
+Vivekananda Lengkong We were off by about 500 meters elevation and some Muzzle velocity (ambient air temperature wasnt perfect). Though I have to question what type of mils the news article that reported Harrisons shot is referencing. From wiki The USMC standard is that 1 mil (that is, 1 milliradian) equals 3.438 MOA (minute of arc, or, equivalently, minute of angle), while the US Army standard is 3.6 MOA, chosen so as to give a diameter of 1 yard at a distance of 1000 yards (or equivalently, a diameter of 1 meter at a range of 1 kilometer.) Many commercial manufacturers use 3.5, splitting the difference, since it is easier to work with. Do we know if it was actually 47 mils in European or US format?
Seriously Felix (my brother) gave me the ACE3 Sandbox & i tried to do Harrisson's shot using the exact same loadout & under the same atmospheric condition (played on CLafghan). Afair my elevation was around 47 - 49 Mils which is the same as the real shot (while yours was only 35 Mils). I think your loadout wasn't exactly the same as Harrisson's (you used CUP L115A3, didn't you?) Imho you should give the Sandbox a try.... Afaik ACE3 AB uses USMC standard (1 Mil = 3.438 MoA). Since the making of ACE3, Ruthberg decided to fully implement the Metric system (meter, cm, grams, celcius). So 1 Mil = 100 cm or 1 m @ 1000 m or 1 km. I'm pretty sure Harrisson used USMC Mil too.... Anyway Rob Furlong's shot is really interesting to be recreated too ;)
+Vivekananda Lengkong hi, which Rifle, from which mod pack and exact ammo you use instead of the CUP L115A3? i have a whole universe of addons/mods installed, but only can find the 2 CUP Versions, and one by Massi....And in those Rifles the ACE3 Ammo wont fit. Only in e.g. The Noreen... yeah, and what Scope? thx :D
ironblader the author of AB (Ruthberg) gave me a "Sandbox Mission" which allows me to simulate any desired Loadout I want by modifying the gun & bullet ballistics parameter during gameplay :) With that "Sandbox Mission" I was able to turn CUP L115A3 ammo into Harrisson's 250 gr Lockbase round. With that Sandbox, i can turn any available loadout in game into any desired loudout i want (in term of ballistics). you want me to share the "Sandbox Mission" with you? ;)
I don't like that in the movie clip his reticle was directly on his target. That's so inaccurate for a shot of this difficulty. There is no way he would not have had to use the mil dots.
could at least have used the L115A3, rather than the L115A1, barely any difference but if you're going for precise accuracy to the real thing, why not?
shame that arma doesnt simulate the curvature of earth it self, dont know that does it simulate the spinning of globe either. so there would be huge difrence to what direction you are shootin. ( east - west etc ) . I dont know all the terms for those in english , so hence the weird wording of my comment.
you need a better set up. most definitely. because watching you shoot and watching the reporters perspective i felt the reporters perspective as a breath of fresh air cause your graphical quality was horrible..
I didn't use that scope intentionally because the developers who made the rifle (CUP weapons) made the ballistics match up closest with the shot. Other mods have the L115A3 with the S&B PM2 5-25 but their ballistics are all off.
That's a pity, I was in afghan when Cpl Harrison made this shot and one think you cannot replicate was the heat that we were all subject too. The mirage that hinders the spotter and his ability to observe splash. Also both his targets were not standing and optically a target at 2475m with a height of 1.7m would measure near 0.8 mil on the scope from foot to head.
Sir, I plan on making another video for this game here soon, and I am in need of good resources or knowledge, could I have a way of contacting you by private message? Specifically I am making a video about sniper fieldcraft and concealment tactics. There's hardly anything on youtube or online, I can only find old training cassettes or dated field manuals, I would be very grateful if you could impart some knowledge to me...
No, he made 9 test shots in a different direction and after that the first aimed shot hit the machine gunner, the second shot took out a second target that tried to pick up the dropped machine gun and the third shot destroyed the machine gun. Source: "The longest kill" book by craig harrison
+warren Scott You bet it. Incredibly useful for calling crosswinds down range, especially if because we know the mirage is a computer algorithm, the shooter can learn the set windspeed through practice.
where have you been!? under a rock? cos thats basicly the point of games like this... honestly what do you think VR aims to do and advanced 3rd/1st person shooters are doing already.
Hi! I'm watching ur videos. Thanks for uploading good videos about Arma 3 ace sniping. I studied sniping and really got a lot about it with ur videos :) Well.. In fact, I have some problem with sniping because there is little data of the gun that I use I use AWM that uses .300 caliber of which is one of rifles in HLC AW addons(www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=28950) I use ACE 3 mod and advanced ballistics, but there is no data about this gun in ATragMX.. Seriously, I tried to find datas over 2 weeks but I failed to get enough data.. I wish u can help me.
+김조현 The HLC AWM is a great addon. I didn't use it in this video because it's chambered in the wrong cartridge (.300 WM). Here is some data for the .300 WM FMJ ACE_caliber = 7.823; ACE_bulletLength = 37.821; ACE_bulletMass = 13; ACE_ammoTempMuzzleVelocityShifts[] = {-5.3,-5.1,-4.6,-4.2,-3.4,-2.6,-1.4,-0.3,1.4,3,5.2}; ACE_ballisticCoefficients[] = {0.25}; ACE_velocityBoundaries[] = {}; ACE_standardAtmosphere = "ICAO"; ACE_dragModel = 7; ACE_muzzleVelocities[] = {690,990}; ACE_barrelLengths[] = {305,660.4}; The reason this data is not automatically in the ATragMX is mostly because the mod developer failed to account for it. In order to get data like this, you have to manually de-rapify the config file included with the mod. community.bistudio.com/wiki/Rapify
+Seriously Wow.. I really appreciate for giving great solution to me :) If I successfully de-rapify the files, maybe I can use AW rifles in the group server where advanced ballistics was adapted. What I dreamed for a month like using various ammos for proper situations, shooting more accurately, and teaching new snipers how to use rifles.. can come true soon. Thanks for answer!
Arma 3 is set in 2030+ If you searched up those type of snipers that are currently prototypes, you might find out they are real, plus since when does Battlefield have wind resistance and wind direction?
i thought he was joking when he said vice reporter
same actually
Me too! Haha! Because it's just a video game.
so? vice is such a bullshit magazine, they got a story for everything. problem is, nobody cares for their opinion xD
American me too
Poor pooch! The dog must be completely deaf, sitting next to a 338mag
+Randy Peters (Portrait Artist) The rifle in the first video is a .408 actually
+Matthew Almaraz that doesn't matter its still over 100 decibels
and the guy was wearing sou d mufflers
+Randy Peters (Portrait Artist) i don't think the dog became deaf from that cause their ears can remove that extremely loud noise almost like comtacs you know so i think the dog is ok! xD
Look if you listen to loud music all the time you will start to lose your hearing soo my point stands
While his scope offered a maximum magnification of 25X, Harrison had to zoom out to 15X magnification to see his point of aim on the crosshairs due to the first focal plane reticle. Though this doesn't affect the ballistics in any way, in terms of recreating the shot you could've lowered the magnification accordingly. Even though your ingame scope is ffp as well, all of the outer mildots are still visible when fully zoomed in which i find a bit irritating. In addition (according to Harrison's book): It was nowhere near as hot as 38°C but rather very mild and there was no air flickering/wavering whatsoever. While this provided clear visibility, lower temperatures meant higher air density, therefore higher air resistance and a shorter maximum effective range. I'm not hating, just complementing. Very well done.
I love it. Thanks for the valuable info. I know this wasn't done perfectly, and I should have taken more time into it, but for the sake of VICE motherboard... I rushed a few aspects of the recreation.
I would love to make more advanced ballistic/advanced sniper videos. I feel like there is that small niche community who takes sniping seriously that I really want to get involved with. However, I have life to deal with, and sitting down and making a video has gotten away from me. Hopefully I can continue to put out quality content... Appreciate the attention to detail
+ Seriously Also I'm sure someone's told you, but Cpl. Harrison DID fire a third shot that broke the machine gun (a PKM) after killing the crew.
+tSp289 That's correct. Nine test shots in a different direction, then first aimed shot hit the gunner, second aimed shot hit the target trying to pick up the machine gun and the third shot destroyed the machine gun (Which is THE perfect combination of skill, conditions and luck).
you read a book? what are you a nerd, nerd?
This is neat, I wonder who dislikes something like this. It's just having fun. The gentleman TRex you refer to in your video is a master of teaching long range shooting. If you have the time and dedication he'll have you hitting at 1000+.
This was really cool. The shots that Craig Harrison did under stress is mind blowing. Very nice recreation guys!
Why would you continue to fiddle with your miliradian (or is it M.O.A?) adjustments? When the miss is that slight, you could've easily aimed off by the same amount you're missing by and nailed t in two shots.
+Kill3rCat We weren't under time constraints and adjusting a scope in ACE is much easier than real life. There is adequate time to adjust scope and maintain corrections for subsequent shots - hold offs are not as reliable due to shooter recoil, breathing, memorizing point of aim after reload, etc.
At 8:15 I was applying hold offs based on the very visible green trajectory line. Sort of cheating...
Under time constraints I fully agree. It makes sense to apply hold offs to subsequent shots if the target is fleeing to cover.
For informational reasons. When you take shots at this range you have to take literally everything into account. Coriolis Effect, Barometric Pressure, Altitude, Spin Drift, Heat of: the bullet, barrel, powder, air at target and rifle, Dew Point, Moisture in the air and on the round, Drop and Wind, Weight of the bullet, and a few other things I cant remember off the top of my head.
Its pretty cool how similar you got this shot with this game. Impressive.
I love that at that range with a .338lm the force it's hitting with is roughly the same as a .44 magnum at point blank range.
bah this is boring, jerry miculek is doing a headshot at this distance onehanded, with a .22 pistol, blind over his shoulder while riding a horse backwards thats hanging off a helicopter!
Yeah that sound's Jerry.
gamerpaddy XD
chuck norris can do the same barehands :D
The Brits really do love their long range kills. First this sniper kill at 2475 meters then you've got the longest tank kill with a challenger tank 4700 meters and let's not forget about the HMS Warspite hitting a moving ship at 24km.
>perfectly modeled projectile physics
>spotter model heavily glitching into the sand
cant see the forest for the trees, never change vidya
Super interesting video and nice concept. I'd love to see more reenacted shooting records like that.
If thats possible for you, it would be great to get a longer version to see all the calculations you made. For the less interested users, you could then add a "skip to *minute:second*"-button.
Anyway, thanks for sharing!
The thing is, as a sniper there are three points you need to calculate before firing, the wind near you, wind at the middle and the wind at the end
wtf? thats not how the movement air works buddy.
Not Tactical
where did you get that three number? the wind could be the same the entire distance or change 15 times not 3. there's no way to get the speed at the target or the middle, but you can just survey things like leaves blowing and make a guess.
'Corporal of Horse'. Lol. We Brits can be somewhat silly sometimes with our archaic titles and military ranks.
Now, if Cpl. Craig Harrison had pulled that shot off *on horseback*, well, every enemy of the UK should tremble in fear. Craig's out to get'cha.
How exactly is it archaic? He's part of a cavalry regiment. In active duty they have switched from horses to light armoured vehicles, but their role is exactly the same as horse cavalry in any historical period, mainly recce and harassment.
Whats that mod with color tracering and impact check pls ?
would not like to have the ringing in the ears that the dog is experiencing!
Was this shot made off a stable bipod? The wind may have changed a dozen times before reaching the target. I am eager to try 1000yards with 7.62 and compare it to my real custom rifle here in Texas. Recoil doesn't seem to be factored in, unless using a suppressor.
In real life Harrison rested his rifle on a small clay wall.
Now the world record has been made by a french soldier at 3600meters with a cheytach
There are reports of a longer shot that was a confirmed kill. It involved Delta COY 2 Commando at 2,815m. Problem being that it was a simultaneous shot buy two separate .50cal Barrett M82's at different positions.
The target was a confirmed kill but the kill cannot be attributed to an individual therefore its not being confirmed as the longest recorded kill.
The Australian Army has also not confirmed this as 2 Commando is part of the Special Operations Task Group (SOTG) details of their missions are highly guarded.
The shot he made has like hitting the lottery right around 1900 meters the bullet goes sub sonic and starts to destabilize dramatically.
luck was on his side but he definitely knew what he was doing. He fired 9 practice shots in a different direction and then 2 killing blows on targets and 1 shot to disable the gun itself. British snipers do not depend on luck.
Who actually does depend on luck?
Spartan 117
I have limited knowledge of ballistics so sorry if I sound dumb, but I'm just curious, is there a long enough range at which even if you were to hit your target it would be non lethal? Like for instance a headshot might just result in an open wound w/burns or a serious concussion but not deadly?
Yes but it would be extremely difficult to pull off. You would need the perfect distance and firing angle to make the round travel far enough while losing enough speed to be non lethal.
Very nice video
Wow! That graphic!!! can't tell any differences to the video!
Does Arma 3 have Bullet drop and bullet travel speed? Those things are VERY important for big battle FPS games.
Isac Jonsson no that's why they are aiming so high because there's no bullet drop
Mr Handy Conservation Society So theres drop, what about travel speed?
When was Arma 3 made? It looks old to me.
Isac Jonsson 2013.
How do I add another person to the mission like you have?
+Liam Eagle Multiplayer?
+Dayson Moxness it only had one person as default, but when I added a playable character they couldn't use the scroll menu in testing.
How do you enable the bullet trace?
I think you forgot the fact that he shot a driver driving at about 65 miles an hour who was driving away 110 degrees from his position
Dude what is the script that you use to trace your bullets ?
+Eduardo França Porto The 360 Degree training course, www.dropbox.com/sh/auidcnt8piyy4sv/AABE7e7Vz2CmEsyIcksZ21URa?dl=0
Thanks mate
Going to need to recreate it with the new record
How many seconds did it take for the bullet to reach that far.
That record has already been broken. I think it was by a Canadian who killed 2 machine gunners from a distance over 2 miles. And I believe he used a .50 cal rifle although I don't remember the name of his weapon.
Not broken yet, still stands as longest kill shot.
the canadian was the longest shot holder before that title was taken by the british guy
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_recorded_sniper_kills#Confirmed_kills_1.2C250.C2.A0m_.281.2C367.C2.A0yd.29_or_greater
45m shorter I thought it was a Canadian too
"not really that far off what happened" - continues to make the shot on ARMA 3
Want to see how hard it is to make a 2000 meter shot in real life check out Larry Vickers insane 2000 meter shot video.
And long range shooting myths from Larry Vickers.
time to do it again, the record was broken, now the longest kill shot is 3400 meters (or something like that) with an AS-50
it was a mcmillan tac 50
One great shot was by Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock, United States Marines. He got a confirmed kill using a M2 Browning machine gun mounted with a telescopic scope at 2,286m (2,500 yd). Scopes where still new back then. He made this shot in 1967 and held it for 35 years until it was broken in 2002. It's quite remarkable how he held the record for that long without even using a normal rifle and scope that just recently been introduced into war.
The world's longest shot is 3250m. It was done in a controlled environment. No air (with that I dont mean that there was no oxygen), the shot was adjusted for around 20 minutes to be perfect. Not like this shot, but its still, the world's longest shot
This is the worlds longest confirmed kill. The title is wrong.
British also hold the longest tank kill! They're just great at causing trouble without the enemy ever knowing about it hahaha
I have been for the past month looking for an arma group that takes sniping seriously with advanced ballistics and wind deflection enabled. I like what your doing here if I can roll with you in arma that'd be sweet. Let me know if we can get in touch.
Now a Canadian sniper shattered this record
in the start is that shooter?
oh yeah it is XD
+Lukas Fabrin xDD
sorry but, similar conditions? was you there to know what the conditions were
northern marine they got the information from the guys book
Athul Mohan oh a book, because they are always right lol
Justin Walters except unless you write thing down the moment they happen, memories aren't the same.
Wow Arma 3 really step up their graphics.
He turned them low i think. On ultra/max settings it looks much better just search some gameplay. :D
Movie Name?..
+Giovanni John Shooter
I have hit a shot like that on arma 3 king of the hill but I don't remember if it was over 2450m but I know it was over 2420m for sure but didn't think much of it
Were you running ACE? If not you were "only" taking elevation and time to impact into account. It's still pretty impressive.
No i did not use ACE. i was using the .408
ACE is not a gun, ACE is a mod which will bring some more realism. As you can see in the video, he's taking temperature and wind conditions for example, those stuff are more related when compared to real life.
+BrutalCoding I know it's not a gun. I just wanted to say that I was not using the ACE mod and I used the .408
Cringe.
you just got your 1000 subscription
Obviously it is, when people sometimes do 2300m in Koth with not much problems, me included
+Du Rocky
im not proud.and i know Ace makes it an "art" But I just dont care ;)
Yeah it is in normal Arma 3 i think there's only bullet drop but the scope's can range up to over 5000+ meter's which is just silly. xD
my best Shot in arma 3 was in wasteland 1.2 km with mk 200 and mrco x) i mean its not my longest shot but i think with this gun it was pretty good and yes i know ace mod is a diffrent skillevel
he was using a cheytec m200 intervention
In the movie not in real life
there have been made 3,5 km shots with that gun and the m200 is not .338LM its .408 cheytac only
why should you chamber the worlds most accurate rifle wich has a special caliber in another caliber wich is not that accurate
thats just a movie clip, he explains how the real thing was hit by a brit using a l115
Should've used a walking NPC seeing as the shot was made on a moving target.
Worlds longest sniper shot. Battleships from 2.ww shot over 20 km
nice one but a 150 mm cannon doesn't count as a sniper rifle.
Plus their targets were moving no doubt, so calculations would of be harder due to that.
Wind, accurate bullet drop, as you said they could have been moving but I believe the victim was posted on an mg so he was a smaller target too
Dude, Harrison's dope for that shot was approximately 47 Mils. You maxed out your elevation adjustment to 30 Mils & only held 4 Mils (so your dope was only 34 Mils)?!! it's 13 Mils different from the real shot. Are you sure you used the exact same loadout? :\
+Vivekananda Lengkong We were off by about 500 meters elevation and some Muzzle velocity (ambient air temperature wasnt perfect). Though I have to question what type of mils the news article that reported Harrisons shot is referencing.
From wiki
The USMC standard is that 1 mil (that is, 1 milliradian) equals 3.438 MOA (minute of arc, or, equivalently, minute of angle), while the US Army standard is 3.6 MOA, chosen so as to give a diameter of 1 yard at a distance of 1000 yards (or equivalently, a diameter of 1 meter at a range of 1 kilometer.) Many commercial manufacturers use 3.5, splitting the difference, since it is easier to work with.
Do we know if it was actually 47 mils in European or US format?
Seriously Felix (my brother) gave me the ACE3 Sandbox & i tried to do Harrisson's shot using the exact same loadout & under the same atmospheric condition (played on CLafghan). Afair my elevation was around 47 - 49 Mils which is the same as the real shot (while yours was only 35 Mils). I think your loadout wasn't exactly the same as Harrisson's (you used CUP L115A3, didn't you?)
Imho you should give the Sandbox a try....
Afaik ACE3 AB uses USMC standard (1 Mil = 3.438 MoA). Since the making of ACE3, Ruthberg decided to fully implement the Metric system (meter, cm, grams, celcius). So 1 Mil = 100 cm or 1 m @ 1000 m or 1 km.
I'm pretty sure Harrisson used USMC Mil too....
Anyway Rob Furlong's shot is really interesting to be recreated too ;)
+Vivekananda Lengkong hi, which Rifle, from which mod pack and exact ammo you use instead of the CUP L115A3? i have a whole universe of addons/mods installed, but only can find the 2 CUP Versions, and one by Massi....And in those Rifles the ACE3 Ammo wont fit. Only in e.g. The Noreen... yeah, and what Scope? thx :D
ironblader the author of AB (Ruthberg) gave me a "Sandbox Mission" which allows me to simulate any desired Loadout I want by modifying the gun & bullet ballistics parameter during gameplay :) With that "Sandbox Mission" I was able to turn CUP L115A3 ammo into Harrisson's 250 gr Lockbase round. With that Sandbox, i can turn any available loadout in game into any desired loudout i want (in term of ballistics). you want me to share the "Sandbox Mission" with you? ;)
Yeah, that would be very nice :D
nice shot :P
I don't like that in the movie clip his reticle was directly on his target. That's so inaccurate for a shot of this difficulty. There is no way he would not have had to use the mil dots.
At that distance he would be zeroing, not using the mil dots.
This would be so easy in the base game. Just set it to 2500 meters and boom
Shooting without a bipod, lmao. The default weapon sway in arma 3 is just ridiculous...
could at least have used the L115A3, rather than the L115A1, barely any difference but if you're going for precise accuracy to the real thing, why not?
I thought he used a McMillan tac 50
im sorry but you were using the wrong gun! you used a l96 but you should have used a cheytac m... (sorry for misspelling I'm not into snipers)
They're not replicating the shot from the movie, but rather the record shot by the British soldier, and thus used the correct rifle.
I hit 2600/2800 shots on king of the hill daily, but I guess its not ace mod tho.
Yeah the ace mod has much more advanced bullet ballistics compare to normal arma 3
Rhino Crunch hit a 3k meter shot before...
Rhino Crunch isnt playing with ACE and his a dick too
+MrChristoffer5700 He did on Stream lol. And it was on a hostile player, too.
then send a link
I have recordings of me taking 2.3 shots with no problem. I think one of them was actually 2.7 so.... This isn't exactly hard in arma.
With ACE Advanced Ballistics enabled?
Got emm
shame that arma doesnt simulate the curvature of earth it self, dont know that does it simulate the spinning of globe either. so there would be huge difrence to what direction you are shootin. ( east - west etc ) . I dont know all the terms for those in english , so hence the weird wording of my comment.
what else can I say..?
AWP is a Beast..... XD
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even tho it name its not AWP
Ethan Cotto-Ramos I think you the one who being cringy right here
stop
The awp is actually based on the L96 accuracy international
NOT EVERYTHING IS A FUCKING AWP
DarkX-_-Allen like i give a fuck???
Try to hit the longest shot in arma possible
shooter hell yeah
you need a better set up. most definitely. because watching you shoot and watching the reporters perspective i felt the reporters perspective as a breath of fresh air cause your graphical quality was horrible..
+LionHeart Airsoft I have an Acer Predator 17 now
could of at least used a S&B PM2 5-25x56 Scope lol
I didn't use that scope intentionally because the developers who made the rifle (CUP weapons) made the ballistics match up closest with the shot. Other mods have the L115A3 with the S&B PM2 5-25 but their ballistics are all off.
That's a pity, I was in afghan when Cpl Harrison made this shot and one think you cannot replicate was the heat that we were all subject too. The mirage that hinders the spotter and his ability to observe splash. Also both his targets were not standing and optically a target at 2475m with a height of 1.7m would measure near 0.8 mil on the scope from foot to head.
Sir, I plan on making another video for this game here soon, and I am in need of good resources or knowledge, could I have a way of contacting you by private message? Specifically I am making a video about sniper fieldcraft and concealment tactics. There's hardly anything on youtube or online, I can only find old training cassettes or dated field manuals, I would be very grateful if you could impart some knowledge to me...
Sure, pass me details on here if possible and I'll send you a message
my record it's 2499 m !
frankie did it with a dmr doe....its arma 2 sorry
movie in 2007 and shot was in 2009? wat?
movie had nothing to do with the shot bro. you should watch it tho I liked it
Ákos Lovász oh ok thanks
Name of movie?
Richboy1337 Shooter its in the video
and the corporal that took the longest shots he missed 2 times and then he hit his target
No, he made 9 test shots in a different direction and after that the first aimed shot hit the machine gunner, the second shot took out a second target that tried to pick up the dropped machine gun and the third shot destroyed the machine gun.
Source: "The longest kill" book by craig harrison
Technically a Sergeant if you aren't going to use the full title of "Corporal of Horse". The household cavalry have weird ranks.
he missed his first 2 shots, he hit on his 3rd shot.
Not Tactical
I suggest you read the book too. Or my comment above.
deisumus mhm, I got my stories mixed up. The shot im talking about was from the Canadian guy who held the record before this guy took it.
maybe someday there will be mirage in arma
+warren Scott You bet it. Incredibly useful for calling crosswinds down range, especially if because we know the mirage is a computer algorithm, the shooter can learn the set windspeed through practice.
you can't replicate real life to a game
where have you been!? under a rock?
cos thats basicly the point of games like this...
honestly what do you think VR aims to do and advanced 3rd/1st person shooters are doing already.
you can replicate , but you cant do the exact same thing in game like the thing in real , like picking up a chicken in CSGO for example .
1000th subscriber!
Hard to replicate. Yeah I pressed page up until the monitor says 2500 ;)
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nice
The movie shooter is the best
Not Bad
World's longest shot from a sniper rifle*
No, it was the worlds longest shot, find a shot with any other weapon apart from a missile that has got a longer kill
Artillery. Howitzers have an effective range of 20x that, and some can be deadly accurate (Archer)
AdeptPaladin if you where responding to me, you know what i meant. this was the longest kill from a "gun" not an artillery piece or missile system
In military terms, an artillery piece IS a gun. The two are synonymous. What you meant from is from a weapon.
AdeptPaladin ok stop being pedantic
u know the real record is fake right ?
the real shot is not fake Craig Harrison holds the record for longest confirmed kill shot in real life
= = , you still don't know what happened = =
well how do you know anything happened anywhere else in the world
Lol don't mind Michael it's obviously a dumb weeaboo that doesn't know anything.
Hi! I'm watching ur videos.
Thanks for uploading good videos about Arma 3 ace sniping. I studied sniping and really got a lot about it with ur videos :)
Well.. In fact, I have some problem with sniping because there is little data of the gun that I use
I use AWM that uses .300 caliber of which is one of rifles in HLC AW addons(www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=28950)
I use ACE 3 mod and advanced ballistics, but there is no data about this gun in ATragMX..
Seriously, I tried to find datas over 2 weeks but I failed to get enough data..
I wish u can help me.
+김조현 The HLC AWM is a great addon. I didn't use it in this video because it's chambered in the wrong cartridge (.300 WM).
Here is some data for the .300 WM FMJ
ACE_caliber = 7.823;
ACE_bulletLength = 37.821;
ACE_bulletMass = 13;
ACE_ammoTempMuzzleVelocityShifts[] = {-5.3,-5.1,-4.6,-4.2,-3.4,-2.6,-1.4,-0.3,1.4,3,5.2};
ACE_ballisticCoefficients[] = {0.25};
ACE_velocityBoundaries[] = {};
ACE_standardAtmosphere = "ICAO";
ACE_dragModel = 7;
ACE_muzzleVelocities[] = {690,990};
ACE_barrelLengths[] = {305,660.4};
The reason this data is not automatically in the ATragMX is mostly because the mod developer failed to account for it. In order to get data like this, you have to manually de-rapify the config file included with the mod. community.bistudio.com/wiki/Rapify
+Seriously
Wow..
I really appreciate for giving great solution to me :)
If I successfully de-rapify the files, maybe I can use AW rifles in the group server where advanced ballistics was adapted. What I dreamed for a month like using various ammos for proper situations, shooting more accurately, and teaching new snipers how to use rifles.. can come true soon.
Thanks for answer!
that is not the longest shot
Why is it very easy for me to do this in arma the scopes can range up to 2.4 km and are accurate enough to make easy kills without calibration
AKS FRANKIEONPC180P TO DO A WORLDS LONGEST SHOT
he need aimlock or probably aimbot for that
That was not the point of this video, this video was them recreating the worlds longest shot not making armas longest shot
TinyRodent its ok , im just being sarcastic
dude frankieonpc is a ledgend #frankieonpc180p
this isn't impressive if it would be moving it would be
Mkay Mr mincraft background picture record a video of you hitting a target running at this range with ACE on, don't worry i'll wait.
+ajdrig it isn't difficult. you can just keep trying a 100 times. i play arma 3 myself btw, no mc anymore
KGaming - The Channel to Be. Ok so do it record and i'll watch it.
lol wtf battlefield haves longer and more realistic snipers
what does te length of the sniper rifle have to do with anything
+Josh Ciruli longer barrel can increase range
Arma 3 is set in 2030+ If you searched up those type of snipers that are currently prototypes, you might find out they are real, plus since when does Battlefield have wind resistance and wind direction?
Barrels can actually decrease the bullets velocity meaning it does not travel as far due to more friction with the bullet. It increases accuracy.
Michael0100 acually no, battlefield have more better mechanics then arma
Wtf was this.
First Shots to hi
THATS NOT THE LONGEST SHOT. I've hit 2.5 clicks
Movie Name?..
+Giovanni John movie name is shooter