"Robopunk" - Henry Rollins. Anyway, badass. Thx for sharing. So little is known about Macias but Henry and the Another State of Mind documentary has laced many of us up, who weren't in that time and place, and never heard of John.
Cool Story. I got into punk in 1985 and went to my first show at the Balboa Theatre in Jan of 1986.. I also , got the opportunity to go to The Olympic Aud In March of 1986 to see Fear and DI. I remember those punk days, In the summer of 1989 I got the opportunity to see Circle One at a club at Hacienda. I remember seeing John singing and giving it his all. I remember that after the band stop playing a song, John stayed motionless looking at the ground with the mic to his mouth. He was sweating and showed and an angry face. As I look at him for 3 to 5 seconds in the state of mind he was in. He notice that I was looking at him. He turn his attention at me with a look like "what are you looking at". I kind of felt a bad vibe about this guy and quickly turn away. Years later I found out that he was a religion fanatic and had mental issues. These rumors came from the people who know him. So please don't think that I am the one making these rumors to be true. But, anyways. when I heard that he was killed and the rumors about his actions in the past, It made sense to me to believe that he was a very interesting guy.Also another note, John Macias was in the beginning of the Punk movement till its end. He love the Movement and he was the movement itself in Los Angeles. Althnough I heard good and bad things about this guy, I am lucky to have seen him play.
+Mrfrairec Apparently John did have mental issues that had a lot to do with his mood swings. I have also heard recently about him being a religious fanatic. Thanks for watching and I will shoot you an email.
Also, when I moved to Burbank in 1987, I began to run into guys from BPO(Burbank Punks Org). These guys were not your traditional punks as I was. They were more like rich suburban kids that like to party. They were more like a party crew than a punk gang. None of them listen to Hard Core Punk like I did. Their home base school was John Burroughs High School. But, I understand that by 1987 the scene had change drastically. Especially when beastie boys ill communication came out. I remember that every kid in the nieghborhood had a stolen VW symbol hanging from their neck.
R.I.P John and thanks for sharing I'm too young to have experienced the punk scene in LA and we moved to San Antonio Tx when I was 8 But man I wish I had seen some of the Punk Scene back then
Thanks for sharing. I love this old history. Been into punk since I was 13, I'm 41 now. I still go to shows, no slam dancing though. Sad story about john, but it's not too surprising. Have you read the book by frank the shank about the scene in la back in the day? Excellent read.
I often surprise young people when I comment on their punk rock shirts. Often I will quote a song or album title by the band. I'm sure some are thinking how does this old fart know about punk.
My brother told a story about a riot that happen at the olympic. He stated that the punks did not want to leave so the management at the olympic called the LAPD to clean house. He said that the LAPD came in from the big side door and began beating PUNKS up. He said that he ran out through the front of the Olympic auditorium and saw the LAPD beating PUNKS up as they ran out. I wonder if this is the same show where John Macias help the little kid getting beat up by the LAPD.
What an awesome video! I did not expect this at all but it was really cool to hear your stories and the person you knew that most of us have hardly heard about aside from Henry Rollins talking about him and his mentioned in the NOFX book. It would be really great if somebody would make a documentary about that scene. I have seen the Clockwork Orange County. There definitely needs to be more like that. I know there's so many more stories out there. I wish I lived there so I could make some films and have stories like that
Cool story man... I've read several LA Punk books where they mentioned how tough and intimidating he could be. Like if someone stared at him the wrong way then they would have ass handed to them. If my memory serves me right, he was the head of a cliq/gang called, "The Family."
I don't remember the name but he had a gang that followed him. He started organizing shows under the Punx name. They would go to other shows and cause problems. A lot of times outside which would result in the cops coming and shutting down the show.
Hey Richie My name is Erick,John Macias is my cousin if you want to know the truth about John and Circle One just ask me anything and I'll let you know I was there through the 80's,if anyone wants to know more I'll be glad to answer any questions !
POPcrackle.com It came out after his death that he suffered from mental illness. Having watched some of your videos I'm not sure you would like their music. Thanks for watching. I enjoy your videos. In fact I watched some last night.
You might be surprised! I like everything from classical music to death metal. My videos don't reflect the complete spectrum of the music I like. I mostly shop for music at thrift stores, and they never seem to have anything heavier than hair metal.
POPcrackle.com My bad. I just assumed you wouldn't like them based on your thrift store finds. As far as hardcore punk goes Circle One isn't really anything special. There are much better bands.
I don't know anything about John or the LA Punk scene, but all I know is that John is an under appreciated punk icon.Honestly, obliviously I look up to him from his physical bodybuilder type of form and also not taking shit from people. He is the ultimate Punk, even if he was a Christian, but who gave a shit
I actually bumped into Henry a couple of times. Once at Oki dogs where he was more interested in bumming money from girls for food. The 2nd time was at a Misfits gig at Al's bar. He was being a bit of a hard ass dick. I think he was trying to show off in front of Danzig.
@@vinylrichie007Rollins is an asshole and a bully. He has a good side though!!!! Like, if you watch his videos on you tube, he is super cool in many videos and a jerk in many others. It's like he's got two personalities!!!!!! I don't like when he's putting down other bands and musicians. That's not cool, that's bulling. And his response to Johnny Rotten after Henry's humiliation on that forum, was absolutely terrible and unnecessary!!!!! I really can't believe how many people look up to Henry and say how great he is and go to his shows........!!!!! By the way i don't believe that Danzig would be impressed by someone acting like a jerk.
I read the book "Discos out and Murders in", and I really cant verify if any of it is true about the Gangs. I got into punk in 1985, the only gangs I remember seeing at shows were the suicidals and south bay skins. I really didn't see a lot of violence. I did see one on one fights but never full scale gang on gang. What is your take on the gang violence mention in the book?
Your comment on this old video caught me a bit off guard. I was in a Bakersfield record store yesterday and they had a Circle One demo album that I’ve never seen. Now I’m going back tomorrow and getting it.
Not really familiar with LMP. I knew a few dudes in LADS but most of the people in these groups were younger than me. I think it was a High School thing. I went to a lot of shows and there really wasn't any problems until the skinheads started causing problems around 86.
Vinyl Richie I just finished the book Discos out murders in It tells all stories of Los Angeles punk gangs Real violent shit John is mentioned in the book Check it out
I talked to a family member recently recounting his past days with john. He didnt want to say much (what we do is secret) but he did say that lmp and even the suicidals would steer clear from circle one shows, and if they would go see them or dr know they would not cause any problems.
Thanks for sharing your stories. I've always wanted to know more about John, but theres not a lot out there besides Henry Rollins story.
Sorry I’m so late responding to this comment. There is not much out there about John. Thanks for watching.
"Robopunk" - Henry Rollins. Anyway, badass. Thx for sharing. So little is known about Macias but Henry and the Another State of Mind documentary has laced many of us up, who weren't in that time and place, and never heard of John.
Circle one is very underrated band
great stories! please don't stop making videos....people need this history and now it will be up forever thanks to you ;)
Its very late but thanks for the great comment.
Cool Story. I got into punk in 1985 and went to my first show at the Balboa Theatre in Jan of 1986.. I also , got the opportunity to go to The Olympic Aud In March of 1986 to see Fear and DI. I remember those punk days, In the summer of 1989 I got the opportunity to see Circle One at a club at Hacienda. I remember seeing John singing and giving it his all. I remember that after the band stop playing a song, John stayed motionless looking at the ground with the mic to his mouth. He was sweating and showed and an angry face. As I look at him for 3 to 5 seconds in the state of mind he was in. He notice that I was looking at him. He turn his attention at me with a look like "what are you looking at". I kind of felt a bad vibe about this guy and quickly turn away. Years later I found out that he was a religion fanatic and had mental issues. These rumors came from the people who know him. So please don't think that I am the one making these rumors to be true. But, anyways. when I heard that he was killed and the rumors about his actions in the past, It made sense to me to believe that he was a very interesting guy.Also another note, John Macias was in the beginning of the Punk movement till its end. He love the Movement and he was the movement itself in Los Angeles. Althnough I heard good and bad things about this guy, I am lucky to have seen him play.
+Mrfrairec Apparently John did have mental issues that had a lot to do with his mood swings. I have also heard recently about him being a religious fanatic. Thanks for watching and I will shoot you an email.
What year did you get into the Punk Scene?
1976
Good reminiscing about Big John. I lived in Pico Rivera in the late 80s. I never met John tho.
Also, when I moved to Burbank in 1987, I began to run into guys from BPO(Burbank Punks Org). These guys were not your traditional punks as I was. They were more like rich suburban kids that like to party. They were more like a party crew than a punk gang. None of them listen to Hard Core Punk like I did. Their home base school was John Burroughs High School. But, I understand that by 1987 the scene had change drastically. Especially when beastie boys ill communication came out. I remember that every kid in the nieghborhood had a stolen VW symbol hanging from their neck.
I could listen to these old punk stories all day✌️😎
R.I.P John and thanks for sharing
I'm too young to have experienced the punk scene in LA and we moved to San Antonio Tx when I was 8
But man I wish I had seen some of the Punk Scene back then
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for sharing. I love this old history. Been into punk since I was 13, I'm 41 now. I still go to shows, no slam dancing though. Sad story about john, but it's not too surprising. Have you read the book by frank the shank about the scene in la back in the day? Excellent read.
I have not read that book. I will check it out. I went to one gig last year. My first in years.
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
A stoned Vinyl Richie! This guy is so mellow in this video compared to his videos today.
@@grz66 Is that even me?
@@vinylrichie007 Hahahahahahahhaha, that popped up on my feed. Seems like you went from weed to meth.
Badass!!
Cool stories. It's fun meeting fellow punk rockers by recognizing the band in their t-shirt.
I often surprise young people when I comment on their punk rock shirts. Often I will quote a song or album title by the band. I'm sure some are thinking how does this old fart know about punk.
My brother told a story about a riot that happen at the olympic. He stated that the punks did not want to leave so the management at the olympic called the LAPD to clean house. He said that the LAPD came in from the big side door and began beating PUNKS up. He said that he ran out through the front of the Olympic auditorium and saw the LAPD beating PUNKS up as they ran out. I wonder if this is the same show where John Macias help the little kid getting beat up by the LAPD.
It very well could have been.
What an awesome video! I did not expect this at all but it was really cool to hear your stories and the person you knew that most of us have hardly heard about aside from Henry Rollins talking about him and his mentioned in the NOFX book. It would be really great if somebody would make a documentary about that scene. I have seen the Clockwork Orange County. There definitely needs to be more like that. I know there's so many more stories out there. I wish I lived there so I could make some films and have stories like that
Cool video, patterns of force is underrated.. r.i.p. John
Thanks for watching
Cool story man... I've read several LA Punk books where they mentioned how tough and intimidating he could be. Like if someone stared at him the wrong way then they would have ass handed to them. If my memory serves me right, he was the head of a cliq/gang called, "The Family."
I don't remember the name but he had a gang that followed him. He started organizing shows under the Punx name. They would go to other shows and cause problems. A lot of times outside which would result in the cops coming and shutting down the show.
good video.greetz from the netherlands!
NICE stories! Keep up this stuff!
love your Amoeba music shirt :)
Thanks for watching.
Interesting stories. John's untimely death is a sad one.
Hey Richie My name is Erick,John Macias is my cousin if you want to know the truth about John and Circle One just ask me anything and I'll let you know I was there through the 80's,if anyone wants to know more I'll be glad to answer any questions !
Interesting stories. Sounds like John was kind of a tormented soul. I'll have to check out their music.
POPcrackle.com It came out after his death that he suffered from mental illness. Having watched some of your videos I'm not sure you would like their music. Thanks for watching. I enjoy your videos. In fact I watched some last night.
You might be surprised! I like everything from classical music to death metal. My videos don't reflect the complete spectrum of the music I like. I mostly shop for music at thrift stores, and they never seem to have anything heavier than hair metal.
POPcrackle.com My bad. I just assumed you wouldn't like them based on your thrift store finds. As far as hardcore punk goes Circle One isn't really anything special. There are much better bands.
maybe but i guess the way it ended for jhon made the band mean more to alot of people.did they ever remaster that album ?
After TSOL BAND,CIRCLE ONE BIG!!!!
When I started going to shows i remember seeing South Bay, skins. In fact, I remember they used to be bouncers for fenders ballroom sometime in 1986.
I don't know anything about John or the LA Punk scene, but all I know is that John is an under appreciated punk icon.Honestly, obliviously I look up to him from his physical bodybuilder type of form and also not taking shit from people. He is the ultimate Punk, even if he was a Christian, but who gave a shit
Interesting video. Never heard of circle one actually.
Thanks for watching
Tieene pura historia con los vinilos de circle one!
Did you ever meet Mike Muir and Suicidal Tendencies?
I spoke to him once at Perkins Palace.
*Never run in front of John Macias...You might trigger is predator instinct !*
That was probably true.
cool Amoeba shirt
Just wanted to ask if you remember any of the punk gangs from back in the day. Like the LADS and FFF.
Yeah I remember them. I had a friend, Lino Lousy, in the LADS. I didn't know anyone in FFF but I did see their graffiti around.
shit man. you met John. I'd die to meet another man of a great mind. Henry Rollins is fuckin great too
I actually bumped into Henry a couple of times. Once at Oki dogs where he was more interested in bumming money from girls for food. The 2nd time was at a Misfits gig at Al's bar. He was being a bit of a hard ass dick. I think he was trying to show off in front of Danzig.
Vinyl Richie its like henry is an egomaniac and insecure at the same time
@@vinylrichie007Rollins is an asshole and a bully. He has a good side though!!!! Like, if you watch his videos on you tube, he is super cool in many videos and a jerk in many others. It's like he's got two personalities!!!!!! I don't like when he's putting down other bands and musicians. That's not cool, that's bulling. And his response to Johnny Rotten after Henry's humiliation on that forum, was absolutely terrible and unnecessary!!!!! I really can't believe how many people look up to Henry and say how great he is and go to his shows........!!!!! By the way i don't believe that Danzig would be impressed by someone acting like a jerk.
I read the book "Discos out and Murders in", and I really cant verify if any of it is true about the Gangs. I got into punk in 1985, the only gangs I remember seeing at shows were the suicidals and south bay skins. I really didn't see a lot of violence. I did see one on one fights but never full scale gang on gang. What is your take on the gang violence mention in the book?
The whole gang thing is exaggerated.
Mrfrairec it was just groups of friends. Called family's :)
Like FFF, there were gangs for sure. Jus not like the story tellers tell it.
You sell those vinyl?
@@raw3239 no
Unfortunate. Rare vinyl you have. Cheers 🍻
What did P.U.N.X. stand for?
I dont know if its too late but it stood for Patriots United Numbering X-amount. My source is the linear notes of the Are You Afraid comp.
What do you think about punk getting all P.C. nowadays
Punk and PC don't mix.
What did P.U.N.X. stand for?
I forget
do you live in LA county still?
No. I just moved to Bakersfield.
Your comment on this old video caught me a bit off guard. I was in a Bakersfield record store yesterday and they had a Circle One demo album that I’ve never seen. Now I’m going back tomorrow and getting it.
@@vinylrichie007 id love to talk sometime and just hear some old stories of what life was like back then
What do you know about LMP
La mirada punks... LADS ciircle one and suicidals where the popular ones
LMP according to them they were the biggest
Not really familiar with LMP. I knew a few dudes in LADS but most of the people in these groups were younger than me. I think it was a High School thing. I went to a lot of shows and there really wasn't any problems until the skinheads started causing problems around 86.
Vinyl Richie I just finished the book Discos out murders in
It tells all stories of Los Angeles punk gangs
Real violent shit
John is mentioned in the book
Check it out
I talked to a family member recently recounting his past days with john. He didnt want to say much (what we do is secret) but he did say that lmp and even the suicidals would steer clear from circle one shows, and if they would go see them or dr know they would not cause any problems.