Circle One - Demo (1981)
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- Punching hardcore band originally from Pico Rivera, California with the infamous John Macias on lead vocals.
1. Nothing / One Chord
2. In This City
3. F.O.
4. G.I. Combat
5. Left - Right - Left / Red Machine
6. High School Society
7. Plastic Life
8. Relics From The Past
I was at the show where this photo was taken. Valley West, Dec 1981 with Red Cross, RF-7 and Disability.
You made it. Glad you are still with us .
@@kodiekulp thank you!
Darren of Disabilty
John was a good friend , he did everything with his whole heart.
Amen to that , he was a big brother and dear friend to a lot of us . I'm from the south bay originally and ran with south bay family circle one in the 80s . I miss those days and all my old friends
The Demo was recorded in the fall of 1980, and became available the following year 👊 I should know, I'm playing Bass on it 😆
Oh shit, I used to own (sold it very recently) a flyer that was sent to me by Circle One and the little blurb / balloon that the guy in the flyer is saying is the same thing that starts GI Combat, about having killed the enemy, I caused it but I can't do it anymore. That was written on the flyer!
I got here because I was looking for more info on John Macias as I was about to post a comment elsewhere here on UA-cam about my story of John Macias. That being the case I think I will copy and paste that comment here also because ... it is relevant.
John Macias was from my home town of Pico Rivera and was one grade above me and graduated in 1980 from the same high school El Rancho. There are 2 distinctive things that I remember about John and one was his little brother who was in my grade, and the other is the first time I ever saw John.
First was John Macias' little brother (I do not remember his real name) we all called him Homegrown. Because he was ALWAYS trying to sell marijuana in high school that he grew himself, hence the name Homegrown. He was a tiny wirey kind of guy who was very hyper and sort of annoying. John on the other hand was HUGE! As Henry Rollins points out he was the kind of guy you would think was pumping iron 24/7 because he was just massive ... but he didn't. He was just naturally a really BIG guy.
Second is the first time I ever saw John. It was in 1979 and ALL of us still had long hair at that time. My group in particular had REALLY long hair. We were the stoners and were proud of it. So we showed this in the way we wore our hair ... really fucken long. Anyway, John had just seen Pink Floyd The Wall in concert the night before and was wearing the concert T-Shirt. That is why I remember John, because my friend Mike who knew John yelled out to John "Did you go to the show?" with John responding that the show kicked ass or ... whatever. I just remember asking "Who's that?" with the answer "Homegrown's brother".
Then 2 years later in 1981 I go to see Circle One (ALL of us short or no hair now) at The Cuckoos Nest in Costa Mesa, almost get my ass kicked by Cowboys from next door at Zubie's (one of them yelled "Punk Rock sucks!" to which I immediately responded "FUCK YOU!!! .... uhhhh why did I just yell that?!?" AHHHH RUNNNN!!! I was by myself).
But this is where it gets blurry for me. Because I have heard conflicting accounts of John at this point. One is that John is the leader of the punk "gang" The Family. And that they go around serving their own sort of vigilante justice on "The Scene" with John being the main instigator of this so called justice. A good friend of mine who was more into this scene than me says John would beat people up at will in a very malevolent (evil) way. And my friend would have no reason to say anything bad about the guy unless he had seen something with his own eyes. But then you got Henry Rollins extolling the virtues of John and John being this sort of benevolent (good) being. What I do know is if John was the leader of this gang, it would sort of make sense in a twisted way. Because I grew up in Pico Viejo (Old Pico) vs John in Pico Nuevo (New Pico). I grew up on the older side of town vs him on the newer side of town and there were Mexican gangs that reflected this. Basically we grew up with Mexican gangs ALL AROUND US. So to me it was like "Really, we need another gang?". But from his viewpoint it may have come naturally since he may have seen the unity that those gangs had. I don't know, but can just speculate. Anyway, what else I do know is that John was actually mentally ill as in having severe Bipolar problems in his head, and ... don't quote me on any of the following but something like ... about 10 years later John goes nuts one day, punches a German tourist lady in a McDonald's in Santa Monica and is subsequently shot dead by Santa Monica police on the Santa Monica pier. And ... Henry Rollins can pick up the story from here.
Uh ... Henry?
No, I do not know Henry :-)
Thanks for sharing!
There was some interview where he said he changed for the better and left the punk scene completely, but then came back to it later with a more positive attitude. Maybe his changes of mind over time also help explain the two portrayals of him? Regarding his death, I heard that he was street preaching at random people crazily and people didn't like it, and someone pulled a knife on him, and he threw someone off of the pier, and when the police arrived he charged towards them and was shot multiple times in the chest. Not sure if his final meltdown was due to the mental issues or drugs, or both.
John had sort of a split personality. You were either with him, or against him. To us kids living at the Wig Factory, he was a protector, he got us food and supplies and watched out for us. I heard a few stories about him b** up guys for minor stuff, though.
You didn't ever want to eff with him.
Once at the Wig Factory he was getting ready to go out somewhere, and put on a stocking cap. My friend said, "Going chopping?" and John grabbed him, then started slapping him. He was doing it in a controlled way; you could tell he was working hard to hold back. He just kept on kind of medium-slapping him now and again for about five minutes while staring at him. Didn't respond to anything the guy said - the guy was practically crying at this point - just kept on doing it, then finally let him go. He didn't really hurt him, but he definitely scared him.
Another time he pulled a guy I was fighting off me and told him, "Leave him alone!" It was all in how you treated him. If you gave him respect, and he knew you a little so you weren't a complete stranger, you'd generally be fine. He was violent, though, and he could be unpredictable.
John, You Are Missed.
Damn right.
❤
01. 00:00 Nothing
00:46 One Chord
02. 00:54 In This City
03. 01:14 F.O.
04. 01:33 G.I. Combat
05. 02:11 Left-Right-Left
03:25 Red Machine
06. 04:37 High School Society
07. 06:23 Plastic Life
08. 06:52 Relics From the Past
What a great band. John Macias' story is so tragic
why what happend
he was mentally ill and spiralled out of control til one day he snapped and started assaulting innocent people on the streets of santa monica cops showed up thought he had a gun so they shot him 4 times
@@fray008 Jody Hill (Circle One's drummer) reported that John Macias suffered from mental illness and probably depression, a thing that brought him to take medications and for sure didn't make his life easier. He was killed in 1991 at 29 by the police who shot him four times - they said he was going crazy and assaulting people and they thought he was carrying a weapon while he was, in fact, unarmed.
Spot on Edward , John M was the true ideals of punk , DIY to the core , fuck what the masses think. Thanks for releasing this , I will always love Circle One !
Real Deal Old-school Hardcore !
Bought "Slog The Movie" in middle school and found this band 😃
I lived at the Wig Factory run by John and Rich for a while in '83. John was a good man.
Thanks for sharing this. I just listened to the John Macias story by Henry Rollins. Sorry for the loss to his family and the punk culture. I am glad the hard work of John and his band mates is still preserved.
Henry The Exaggerator's stories should be taken with a pound of salt.
Henry is a faker, the Macias family asked him to make a statement in honor of John, Henry told them he didn't know John that well. Then he goes and uses his name in his shows. As John would say, he's a social climbing leech!
Michael is amazing guitar player,as is the whole band!!!!
Rip John M.....Family!!
More songs than minutes... Good...
R.I.P, John.
He's in the most Hardcore Mosh Pits in the Halls of Vahalla now.
John was cool. Some great times back then.
I remember going to a house party in Los Angeles that they played with DR KNOW and a bunch of us went down to this bar/restaurant called the frog pond and john had this crazy war paint on his face and we fucking destroyed that place, breaking shit and people, Violent fun times. NARDCORE Y FAMILIA POR VIDA! R.I.P John!
joey wolfe So should the law abiding public really shed a tear...? I mean, seriously....people who do shit like that expect others to MISS them??? Lol. Rappers get arrested for even THINKING about half of the shit these little goose eggs do. Frankly, their just angry that their parents never took advantage of their white privelege...and THAT'S the goddamned TRUTH.
Your a BITCH!
Futureworld X Jones Shut up you stupid fuckin SJW
@@futureworldxjones5894 circle one werent white x john macias was a hispanic guy with untreated mental issues killed by police violence x so if we are pissing rainbows and snowflakes i think circle one should get a sjw hallpass x like snoop or j.k. rowling or any other public figure with their own shitty thoughts, opinions, agendas and flaws x
@@CoffinBanger it's easy to get shot by police in US.
Love this, but please give me a photo credit......I took this photo.
@Young Nino I don't understand what you're getting at? My Canon. I have the 35mm negatives. Unfortunately, most of my photos are copied all over the internet. This photo was taken in late 1981/early 1982 in a small club in Tarzana. I have others.
@@zizihowell9556 it’s a shame you aren’t getting any credit for the pictures you have taken, thank you for your service 🤘🏾
@@Elruido702 I appreciate your kind words. I was among a handful of photogs back in the day. I got paid for some shots, but nowadays, photos get copied & passed around so easily thru the internet, so at least a photo credit would be nice recognition! xoxo
@YoungNino2017I took this with your mom’s camera on T-rex 800 film stocks
Ah, my childhood...:)
Circle one is punk. A very heavy inflluince in suicidal. If y'all can't hear it y'all can't hear or don't know great music.
Macias CA vs Watson NY would've been a great fight back in the day. Both crazy tough rulers of the pit.
Watson ??
John Watson. NYHC guy. I'm pretty sure he sang in a early version of Agnostic Front. I think they were called the ZOO CREW at that point.
Epic
Real
ty for this
I first heard of this band in Intermediate school. My friend Jacqui's brother Vince, use to hangout with the band and the family. I remember always seeing Mike Vallejo at her house, in Montebello. 1985.
Vince was my boyfriend for a while!
Anyone who was there knew make good with John. He was cool with me.
Marz Town Family misses John 👍🏽🙏🏽
My cousin John. I was head of security, if you didn't grow up with him shut the fuck up. I grew up with him and I was the first ones notified and on the scene when he died. Johnny a good guy. So Nancy, Joey, Robert, Paul and his oldest brother. We born together...
tell me more
Los Angeles... MIA
i started a new punk band based outta michigan straight from tx with lousianna roots.. ok i just record the sound of me jackin it while i sing in tune to my beats and watch the future dye its hair
Gayest comment ever. Must be from michigan fkn geeks!
How did you get 8 likes?
That's still better than what Antifa listens to.
Deserves more really
CLASSIC
Nice bass intro...
😍
John Macias beat some hippy to a pulp, cuz having long hair was a mistake
heard a similar story from matt from infest.
Some nofx in here, thirteen stitches is the song?
Sounds like my kind of guy.
Now punks ARE hippies today and on the same team of SJW leftists.
@@MaharlikaAWA Not true s.j.w's are far from punk, although I don't doubt they've crept their way in. I'm punk & I as well as others I'm sure hate those dickheads too, they think the world revolves around their feelings. Stupid PC college internet activist crowd are just power hungry douches actively trying to cancel entertainment they themselves dont like, shutdown anyone who dare disagree with them, telling others how to live, breathe, fuck, or speak also the racism & sexism as well doesnt sound very punk to me & they are very racist.
"Robopunk"
What’s his connection w the germs, did he know Darby, was he part of darbys “cult” or had he just missed the germs and this was the second generation of the LA punk / hardcore scene?
I heard he was involved with Darby b4 he overdosed and then made the band after but I’m not too sure
crashed out
Johns my unlcle and im named after hin and make music too
I've got this demo but wonder why this upload is only 7 minutes? My copy runs for 16
the other tracks might be other demo or compilation tracks from the survive compilation, which features (unreleased) live, demo and studio recordings.
John the legend such a badass!
Not really...
@@benhitz6810 Yes really.
El primer temaa mítico hardcore escuela gringa lento y después rápido y después termina y te vai a la mierda
nope mij te frag men tarisch,jammer...zat meer in
Was their band name inspired by the germs?
the insert of the survive compilation states something like (not a hundred procent accurate) that the ''circle'' represents togetherness in a circle and ''one'' represents unity as being one.
True Story well I know all of that my guy I just wanted to know if THIS BAND was inspired by that name or if their naming themselves “circle one” was completely coincidental
No idea if anyone in the band admitted it, but I always assumed they got their name from the Germs song. Just seems obvious. And it wouldn't be the first time a band was inspired by someone else's song title and then came up with their own meaning behind it after the fact.
Earlly 80s had a shitload of bands like this. BLACK FLAG was miles ahead
SOA STATE OF ALERT
BLACK FLAG RIPPED OFF THE STAINS
@@chainsawteddybear WRONG.
@@paull.6026 you obv dont know your history
@@chainsawteddybear to be honest they may have ripped off the stains, but they ripped em off and made batter music. But that's just my opinion
Is the band the same as the gang?
...and then some
Yes the Circle One Family was based off this band like Suicidal 13 was based of suicidal tendencies
Tobi Wolf Castle copy that thanks to both of you guys that replied
@@tobiwolfcastle3801 what did the gang actually do?
Any connection to the South Bay?
heavy shit
never heard they guys they pretty good but they have little bit of a east coat sound
Eric Last SOCAL all the fuckin way
SUICIDAL PUNKZ
Really dude didn't know that🤣🤣🤣
I know these guys would literally kill me back in the day…… but they suck
The first rhythm section could hardly play, they got a lot better with the second line up
Henry Rollins brought me here.
Proactively trying to discover new bands brought me here... when I was 14. You gotta dig deep to find good shit.
Robo punk...
That G.I. Combat, that one really comes across for me
Poser
Me too