Can't believe the incompetence in GM is allowing such an awesome automobile such as the Camaro to be killed off without any kind of hesitation or regards to it's faithful followers! This just saddens me to the core! These government mandates are quite simply BS and they could care less about the environment with as much pollution as they continue to disperse is just mind boggling! Save the Camaro campaign to start now! Who's with me?📜✏️
Same with Dodge killing off the Challenger and Charger v8 Hemis. It’s ridiculous to think they’re hard-core fans are gonna buy electric vehicles, not gonna happen!
Fastest car I've ever tested...that's tough for me. Nissan GTR, Lambo Huracan Performante, Tesla Model S P100D, Ferrari 488 pista, BMW M4 CS, Mercedes GT and a few others. Depends on the day, track conditions, fuel type, temp, humidity.
It definitely retards timing and cuts fuel, but it is significantly faster than not using it. When driving an automated manual dct or pdk type, they both do this as well. The reason this is beneficial is that it allows one to keep the rpms high and on forced induction vehicles it keeps boost up. There is no comparison.
There's a 200 HP difference here, so I'm not sure what the point of this video was. The zl1 should have gapped the m2 in every race. I'd still take the m2 though
ZL1 1LE manual for me. I can't get over the looks of the new M2. It seems like an unfinished design, both in person and from pictures/videos. The last gen M2 is such a beautiful car. Now this one is heavier than an M3😅
In terms of daily drivability and looks, I would still take the new m2 ,it doesn't look unfinished in any way. Looks great in person, especially in black, and way better interior than the zl1 without a doubt
@@chrism869 I prefer the last gen BMW interior. New one has too few buttons and I don’t like going into the screen with many clicks just to change something basic. It still has a better interior than American cars. The M2 makes me want to vomit when I see it in person. It is already on sale with lots of them sitting in the dealer lot. It is your money. Buy anything you like.
Getting a v8 to barely beat straight 6 that was co developed by Toyota is a joke. The b58 is considered to be the modern 2jz. Bmw has shot up right next to toyota in reliability ever since they dropped the b58/s58 in over half their models. There's enough people driving v8 pickup trucks that don't even use em for utility and there's enough v8 muscle cars on the road just to get gapped by 4 bangers. V8 are only good at being obnoxiously loud and being the best in polluting our air quality.
The automatic ZL1 is a lot better . I love manual as much as the next person but when it comes to racing, the automatic shifts way faster and smoother .
There is no rocket science involved in this comparison it’s as basic as the beginning of racing more power wins and in this case much more power! The M2 just looks so much better in my opinion
I will never understand why y’all keep doing rolls at 30 mph. No car is in its boost zones at freaking 30mph. Everytime you race a turbo vs a NA you are doing the turbo dirty and injustice. It should be a 40-45 roll
it's zee - L1! American Muscle prevails once again. No better Muscle Car out there for the money. So happy I was able to get my '23 2SS 1LE Manual in the middle of June. What a great ride!
Zl1 would be faster around a track too. Just all around a better car in looks and performance. The BMW has a nicer interior if you're into that sort of thing.
The Zl1 should go against the M3/M4. Of course the AWD in the M3 will give it an advantage, but putting it in RWD and racing it against the Zl1 would be a good race!
Getting a v8 to barely beat straight 6 that was co developed by Toyota is a joke. The b58 is considered to be the modern 2jz. Bmw has shot up right next to toyota in reliability ever since they dropped the b58/s58 in over half their models. There's enough people driving v8 pickup trucks that don't even use em for utility and there's enough v8 muscle cars on the road just to get gapped by 4 bangers. V8 are only good at being obnoxiously loud and being the best in polluting our air quality.
If you go into a BMW dealership and tell them that you'd like a BMW M5 for what you'd pay for a ZL1, please make sure you record it. Tell them it's "a fair comparison".
Sorry but you cannot pretend to be watched some races like that.. +150bhp and huge amount of torque difference between cars at pretty much same weight and same transmission type. The results were as ANYONE could expect.
I have the Cadillac with the same engine as the Camaro, but auto, because I deal w/ City traffic congestion. Had a BMW M2C & far prefer the sheer power & sound of the V8; have zero desire to go back to BMW. Would consiser a used 650i as a project car, but that’s about it.
If I had the means, I would build an inline w6 (I guess it might not be inline anymore maybe?). I'm not an engineer or a physicist but I'm super curious to know if this would get the balanced benefits of a straight 6 (not sure how much is lost due to the w configuration) with the light weight of a W (reduced weight materials of shorter block/heads, etc) and the ability to place the motor further back towards the driver for better weight distribution (%/%). Any math guys/engineers/physicists in the comments section?
This is one of the most uneven matches! I have a 2023 camaro ss N/A 455hp and iv ran the BMW M2 we are dead even or I usually win this is just pointless! 😂
You haven’t raced the new M2, quit your lying, it would smoke a regular SS. The Camaro in the video is a ZL1, with 650hp and the M2 still did a good job of keeping up. Your SS would loose by bud lengths. The last M2 and new M2 are in different levels of performance.
@davothegreat9990 Dude, it's not even "imagining", it's there, stooopid. Since you're stupid, I'll teach you math. 650 subtract 460 = what? Is it 190? Or yes? Or no?
@@davothegreat9990how is it an argument if it’s a fact you clown? You could easily tune these m2s with 600 plus whp and smoke this zl1 there isn’t an imagination lmao it isn’t even a fair comparison it’s like comparing a 789 hp 812 superfast to a 630 hp huracan evo you sound goofy
I´m a german car guy and also own a slightly modded ZL1 with a 6 speed manual transmission! I´ve driven a lot of cars in my life already but nothing catchs me like this car! Of course BMW also knows how to build cars, but the emotion from latest models is not the same like in the past and, if we consider what´s coming, won´t be comparable anymore....
while they may be in the same price range and speed, I don't think too many people are cross shopping these 2 cars. They're def for very different types of people.
I would say that your comment is ultra accurate.....however I am here because I am cross shopping these two cars. Coming from a G80M3. I have always wanted to grab a ZL1.
The guy driving the M2 wasn't shifting on point and it seemed like he wasn't in sport plus traction off and launch control on. Also think about weight to power ratio it should have been way closer 🤔
As an M2 owner myself, the ZL1 will always be a better motorsports car. ZL1s are a true demon meant to be track weopons, while M2s are more of like an ultimate daily that gives you proficiency in all aspects such as handling, comfort, speed, sound, and overall engagement. The ZL1 is a dedicated car only for motorsports and makes an atrocious daily vehicle. I know this because it's the car I wanted over the M2, but I couldn't stand the visibility and cabin for a daily, as well as how bad the mpgs are as well. If you want a stupid fast car get the ZL1. If you want a car that has positives on everything, and something you can daily, get the M2.
I don't even know why your racing these 2 cars. There is no way that would have been that close. 453 probably closer to 400hp in the M2, slightly lighter and your going up against a ZL1 with 650hp.. LOL C'mon man! there is no scenario this would be that close. The ZL1 would have that thing by 10 car lengths easy. A Camaro SS vs the M2 would be a fair fight. I still love the looks of the M2, the side profile is sick. I own a C7 Corvette by the way.. Its supercharged, 7 spd manual. That M2 would have no shot! I just love all sports cars..
My question is which car is going to breakdown first! They both are racing to see which has to go to the service department first. I owned a GT500 a few years back and that POS would break and rattle like no other. It chased me into the hands of Lexus which I now can make it through the 1/4 mile for thousands of times before any issues.
The TR6060 is a known beast and the LT4 is a built monster pushrod engine. The DOD lifters are in it but they are electronically disabled so overall the Z's drivetrain is pretty killer. I can't speak for the M2. Bottom line.. I think just do your maintenance and in general you're ok.
I don’t really understand the point of this race. It’s not really difficult to win if you got 200 hp more. Requires zero skills. If you buy the BMW you get a premium product with nice interior quality. If you buy the Camaro you get, well a cheaper feeling car. That’s why the BMW is more expensive.
@@stangedude5646 There's a joke that I assume started with the 911's amazing acceleration times given their relative horsepower, that German horses must be bigger. That's why a 450 hp German car might be expected to compete with a 650 hp American car. Obviously it can't in this case...
I agree, the M4 Comp would have been a more fair fight. Although, if they would of want to see a ZL1 being smoke they could used the M4 xDrive version 🤷🏽♂️
Not with those power difference with both running manual. Now i did expect a closer drag race for the obvious reason of traction but pleasantly surprised
It will get worse starting at 100 mph because the current M models (and M sport such as M340i and the rest of lineup) reduce battery power gradually for the charging to kick in. These are electric cars with gasoline-powered engine-assist. They are not truly gasoline engine power they want the general public to believe. The engine is de-tuned, to allow the battery to boost power.
The BMW is down 200hp Yesterday stangmode was super pumped that his mustang gt barely beat a stock m240i with 100hp 50tq less. Even with a loss it's still a good race for the BMW
You are 200 horses over in the Camaro. To make it fair just let the M2 have the 8 speed automatic, and it would have smoked your 650hp with just 452 horses
Damn this video really got me excited for my new M2. Can’t believe its anywhere near that ZL1 with the massive HP difference. I expected this to be much worse
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I’m a German car guy, but I’d take the ZL1 here.
Ofc, i would do the same and i am also german.
Can't believe the incompetence in GM is allowing such an awesome automobile such as the Camaro to be killed off without any kind of hesitation or regards to it's faithful followers! This just saddens me to the core! These government mandates are quite simply BS and they could care less about the environment with as much pollution as they continue to disperse is just mind boggling! Save the Camaro campaign to start now! Who's with me?📜✏️
They don't care about their customers period and also give the ss and zl1 more horses
I love Gm vehicles but they irritate me as a company.
This car was released in 2017 too 6 years ago imagine where it would be if they actually gave a crap and kept making it better
It is up to us to vote in peeps that will undo the so called mandates. Politicians are invested in the ev bs so it will be hard but it can be done.
Same with Dodge killing off the Challenger and Charger v8 Hemis. It’s ridiculous to think they’re hard-core fans are gonna buy electric vehicles, not gonna happen!
I’ve driven both the sound and feel in the Camaro wins me over every time.
Sorry to say but both drivers, one harder than the other, should practice gear shifting…..
I tried the automatic version of the ZL1 last summer. Fastest car I've tested. That was insane.
Fastest car I've ever tested...that's tough for me. Nissan GTR, Lambo Huracan Performante, Tesla Model S P100D, Ferrari 488 pista, BMW M4 CS, Mercedes GT and a few others. Depends on the day, track conditions, fuel type, temp, humidity.
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@@coreypatterson1386are y’all dense?
@@xorbitman which one was the fastest for you or scariest?
@@xorbitmanexcept from m4, all the other cars are on a different league 😅 and cost double if not triple!
Should have taken advantage of the 'no lift shif' in the ZL1 and the difference would have been substantial.
Hey he definitely didn't use that cars full potential that's for sure
No lift shift pulls timing and slows the car down.
It definitely retards timing and cuts fuel, but it is significantly faster than not using it. When driving an automated manual dct or pdk type, they both do this as well. The reason this is beneficial is that it allows one to keep the rpms high and on forced induction vehicles it keeps boost up. There is no comparison.
There's a 200 HP difference here, so I'm not sure what the point of this video was. The zl1 should have gapped the m2 in every race. I'd still take the m2 though
M2 is a chick car bro.
@@stangedude5646 first time I hear anyone say that
@@jp23x It's not masculine at all. I would buy something like that for my daughter.
@@stangedude5646💀😭, it is kind of bubbly looking though.
I would take the M2. Much higher quality car , not even close
ZL1 is one of the baddest cars ever made no doubt. Love it . 6m too heel yeah
Você não sabe o que diz. Fica quietinho no seu canto fan boy!
Zl needs a driver mod
ZL1 1LE manual for me. I can't get over the looks of the new M2. It seems like an unfinished design, both in person and from pictures/videos. The last gen M2 is such a beautiful car. Now this one is heavier than an M3😅
In terms of daily drivability and looks, I would still take the new m2 ,it doesn't look unfinished in any way. Looks great in person, especially in black, and way better interior than the zl1 without a doubt
@@chrism869 I prefer the last gen BMW interior. New one has too few buttons and I don’t like going into the screen with many clicks just to change something basic. It still has a better interior than American cars. The M2 makes me want to vomit when I see it in person. It is already on sale with lots of them sitting in the dealer lot. It is your money. Buy anything you like.
I'm with you...BMW has lost it's luster and I just can't get myself to care about 99% of their offerings now.
Well how do you feel about the G80/82? Do you feel that once the M2 gets a comp or a CS they would change it enough for it to be a “finished design”?
Getting a v8 to barely beat straight 6 that was co developed by Toyota is a joke. The b58 is considered to be the modern 2jz. Bmw has shot up right next to toyota in reliability ever since they dropped the b58/s58 in over half their models. There's enough people driving v8 pickup trucks that don't even use em for utility and there's enough v8 muscle cars on the road just to get gapped by 4 bangers. V8 are only good at being obnoxiously loud and being the best in polluting our air quality.
Need to race auto cars The ZL1 would have won by like 6 more cars
The automatic ZL1 is a lot better . I love manual as much as the next person but when it comes to racing, the automatic shifts way faster and smoother .
I love stick shift it’s trash here in the city bumper to bumper and I have bad knees 😂I’d take auto 4sho
*faster for sure. But absolutely not better
The auto M2 is also much faster.
@@freshnugget2099 details: better for racing, not preference
@kychristell1779 details : better for racing, not preferences
The M4 completion or M5 would have been a more fair fight
zl1 is obviously going to win
I own a 2022 ZL1/1LE six speed manual. If I was up against a twin turbo beamer, I would have been in Track mode. 🇺🇸
There is no rocket science involved in this comparison it’s as basic as the beginning of racing more power wins and in this case much more power! The M2 just looks so much better in my opinion
I will never understand why y’all keep doing rolls at 30 mph. No car is in its boost zones at freaking 30mph. Everytime you race a turbo vs a NA you are doing the turbo dirty and injustice. It should be a 40-45 roll
That's a stock model M2, I'd like to see how well that Camaro would do against the M4 Competition.
Feeling hurts maybe 😂😂😂
Zl1 would lose to a m4 comp or m3 comp. But the zl1 is a beast of a car.
@@Jewnbug1It beat a 453 hp M2, so it must be a beast of a car.
@PHenry-wn3li that m2 weights nothing .. weight plays a big number .. don't need tons of power when you way little
@@Jewnbug1Given the option, I'll take that M2 all the time, every time.
Any reason why no one is using no lift shift in the camaro...
The owner can barely shift without it and Sam didn't want to dog the Camaro out
@@supersportlt1lol!
@@supersportlt1No lift shift doesn’t dog the Camaro out, though; it’s programmed into the car to be able to handle it without problems.
@@danieldickerson4838 I agree.
it's zee - L1! American Muscle prevails once again. No better Muscle Car out there for the money. So happy I was able to get my '23 2SS 1LE Manual in the middle of June. What a great ride!
Zl1 would be faster around a track too. Just all around a better car in looks and performance. The BMW has a nicer interior if you're into that sort of thing.
Bmw m2 did an 11.9 quarter mile on carwow and a 12.6 here? It should be faster then the camaro if the driver wasn't ass
The Zl1 should go against the M3/M4. Of course the AWD in the M3 will give it an advantage, but putting it in RWD and racing it against the Zl1 would be a good race!
We did it :)
@@SamCarLegion I gotta watch it ASAP!
The m3 doesn’t have much more power does it?
I would love to see the Camaro ZL1 VS Corvette C8, BMW M4 and the BMW M8
Getting a v8 to barely beat straight 6 that was co developed by Toyota is a joke. The b58 is considered to be the modern 2jz. Bmw has shot up right next to toyota in reliability ever since they dropped the b58/s58 in over half their models. There's enough people driving v8 pickup trucks that don't even use em for utility and there's enough v8 muscle cars on the road just to get gapped by 4 bangers. V8 are only good at being obnoxiously loud and being the best in polluting our air quality.
Omg, respectfully disagree with everything.
@@thecarpergarage916 You can disagree but, everything i said was pretty logical.
Great video love that amazing zl1 Camaro
An unfair comparison in terms of horsepower difference. A fair comparison is the ZL1 vs BMW M5
Your comparison is like wayyyyyyyyu offffff. A rwd coupe vs an awd sedan 😂😂😂😂
If you go into a BMW dealership and tell them that you'd like a BMW M5 for what you'd pay for a ZL1, please make sure you record it. Tell them it's "a fair comparison".
i would have rather seen the M4 that's always been the german camaro equivalent
Sorry but you cannot pretend to be watched some races like that.. +150bhp and huge amount of torque difference between cars at pretty much same weight and same transmission type. The results were as ANYONE could expect.
"Full manual battle" got my adrenalin racing😊
Thank you for your reviews. I thought the M2 would be lighter by several hundred pounds. I was wrong.
The previous generation was, this new one is on M4 platform which is ridiculous :/
Well if there was an actual real driver in the camaro it would have put bus lengths on the bmw... and thats coming from a person that hates chevys
That BMW exhaust sounds like a Ford Taurus by comparison.
Zl1 is awsome. Steering wheel and visibility can go though. Not much you can do about the latter.
I have the Cadillac with the same engine as the Camaro, but auto, because I deal w/ City traffic congestion. Had a BMW M2C & far prefer the sheer power & sound of the V8; have zero desire to go back to BMW. Would consiser a used 650i as a project car, but that’s about it.
All day take the M2!
Cannot wait for you to do a NISM⭕ Z vs Supra rematch
It would be helpful if the other guy knew how to shift correctly 🤨
Who ? ZL1 or m2 ?
Should probably at least race an M2 Comp when it comes out. A better match up would be an M4 Comp.
If I had the means, I would build an inline w6 (I guess it might not be inline anymore maybe?). I'm not an engineer or a physicist but I'm super curious to know if this would get the balanced benefits of a straight 6 (not sure how much is lost due to the w configuration) with the light weight of a W (reduced weight materials of shorter block/heads, etc) and the ability to place the motor further back towards the driver for better weight distribution (%/%). Any math guys/engineers/physicists in the comments section?
They jacked up the price by $10000 for 2024 ZL1
That's completely crazy😮
This is one of the most uneven matches! I have a 2023 camaro ss N/A 455hp and iv ran the BMW M2 we are dead even or I usually win this is just pointless! 😂
You haven’t raced the new M2, quit your lying, it would smoke a regular SS. The Camaro in the video is a ZL1, with 650hp and the M2 still did a good job of keeping up. Your SS would loose by bud lengths. The last M2 and new M2 are in different levels of performance.
Despite the m2 being down 200hp, it didn't lose by much. Imagine the m2 being the same hp.
Keep imagining! Silly argument to make.
@davothegreat9990 Dude, it's not even "imagining", it's there, stooopid. Since you're stupid, I'll teach you math. 650 subtract 460 = what? Is it 190? Or yes? Or no?
Imagine flashing the DME because Germans dowtune the sh+t out of there cars.
@@davothegreat9990how is it an argument if it’s a fact you clown? You could easily tune these m2s with 600 plus whp and smoke this zl1 there isn’t an imagination lmao it isn’t even a fair comparison it’s like comparing a 789 hp 812 superfast to a 630 hp huracan evo you sound goofy
Yeah and the M2 Will do 11,9sec 1/4mile
I swear the zl1 is suc a beautiful car i am ford fans but zl1 is so so beautiful i love it
I´m a german car guy and also own a slightly modded ZL1 with a 6 speed manual transmission! I´ve driven a lot of cars in my life already but nothing catchs me like this car! Of course BMW also knows how to build cars, but the emotion from latest models is not the same like in the past and, if we consider what´s coming, won´t be comparable anymore....
if you can put mph as well it would be nice to see mph differences as well.
May as well add the 60 ft. times and reaction times too to get the complete picture . . .
while they may be in the same price range and speed, I don't think too many people are cross shopping these 2 cars. They're def for very different types of people.
I would say that your comment is ultra accurate.....however I am here because I am cross shopping these two cars. Coming from a G80M3. I have always wanted to grab a ZL1.
Watching this as a zl1 driver is sick but some good shifting would’ve made the bus between the m2 to a train length
And BTW the Camaro is in another league even though the car from the country with the best engineers on the planet costs more…
was just driving the m2 in forza now i see this💪looks like a lego car to me but still beautiful
This was good but need driver mods. A ZL1 running 12s in 1/4, yeah I’ve seen this stock car at drag strip constantly running 11.5.
The guy driving the M2 wasn't shifting on point and it seemed like he wasn't in sport plus traction off and launch control on. Also think about weight to power ratio it should have been way closer 🤔
Where did you get those floor covers in the ZL1?
where did you get those red accent floor mats for the ZL1???
It's not fair, the camaro has a supercharger and the m2 is not fair, it would be a m3 gtr that has a turbo charger and make things even.
if i am considering a ZL1, My backup thoughts would not be an M2. This comparison makes zero sense. But I watch for the racing. Not the comparison!
With that much horsepower difference a proper comparison would be the m4 competition.
As an M2 owner myself, the ZL1 will always be a better motorsports car. ZL1s are a true demon meant to be track weopons, while M2s are more of like an ultimate daily that gives you proficiency in all aspects such as handling, comfort, speed, sound, and overall engagement. The ZL1 is a dedicated car only for motorsports and makes an atrocious daily vehicle. I know this because it's the car I wanted over the M2, but I couldn't stand the visibility and cabin for a daily, as well as how bad the mpgs are as well. If you want a stupid fast car get the ZL1. If you want a car that has positives on everything, and something you can daily, get the M2.
Never let a man with a king cobra under his towel drive your 650hp Camaro
I don't even know why your racing these 2 cars. There is no way that would have been that close. 453 probably closer to 400hp in the M2, slightly lighter and your going up against a ZL1 with 650hp.. LOL C'mon man! there is no scenario this would be that close. The ZL1 would have that thing by 10 car lengths easy. A Camaro SS vs the M2 would be a fair fight. I still love the looks of the M2, the side profile is sick. I own a C7 Corvette by the way.. Its supercharged, 7 spd manual. That M2 would have no shot! I just love all sports cars..
My question is which car is going to breakdown first! They both are racing to see which has to go to the service department first. I owned a GT500 a few years back and that POS would break and rattle like no other. It chased me into the hands of Lexus which I now can make it through the 1/4 mile for thousands of times before any issues.
Also Lexus is a thousand times slower and less fun!
@Abercrombemonkey also 90% of people on the road buys car to make it to and from work, not race at every stop light.
You should try the GTR - reliable n fast - but you do get higher than average maintenance costs…
The TR6060 is a known beast and the LT4 is a built monster pushrod engine. The DOD lifters are in it but they are electronically disabled so overall the Z's drivetrain is pretty killer. I can't speak for the M2. Bottom line.. I think just do your maintenance and in general you're ok.
Why not put the Zl1 against the M6 would be more evenly matched.
They don’t make the M6 anymore 😅
That screen panel gauge cluster looks weird in the BMW
Watch the warm up... dude in the M2 couldn't use a clutch. The 2nd and 3rd gear was horrible 😂
Good luck with your great channel🎉
I don’t really understand the point of this race. It’s not really difficult to win if you got 200 hp more. Requires zero skills. If you buy the BMW you get a premium product with nice interior quality. If you buy the Camaro you get, well a cheaper feeling car. That’s why the BMW is more expensive.
Unfair inline 6 vs V8, bring Mustang V8 vs camera V8 both stick shift 🔥🔥🔥
Did that
🔥🔥🔥 Great content as always Sam!
M2 starts from 65 grands and ZL1 from 76!
Can you do Lexus LC500 vs M4 G82 please
Not a good comparison, are you expecting the M2 to perform a miracle with much less bhp
This m2 has done 12.3 in prvious races on same track.. this driver was not shifting gears properly..
Why not take on an M5 CS that would be a better race and you always drive the car that has a better chance of winning.
ZL1 >> M2,3,4
👍👍👍👍👍
Why does it look like there are paddle shifters on the Zl1?? M2 all day by the way.
It's a goofy look for sure, but that's how you turn rev matching on and off. I'm guessing it was GM's attempt at saving a nickel.
Guy in the m2 grandma shifted!!!
The sound of the M2 is nothing more than a bad joke.
I would take either one they both are good with mods too lol if that is not fast enough lol 💯👍💪
The ZL1 will go 0-60 mph in 1st gear. Try the same race in 1st gear.
M2 automatic much quicker. I have driven both. I also have had mclaren 720S....Aventador S. 992 Turbo S....huracsn evo....I know my cars. 😉
Not a fear comparison what's next a ford f150 raptor with your neighbors Chrysler minivan
Great video Sam
Nice Race Sam!! Now bring they M4 vrs ZL1
What type of comparison is this??
650bhp vs 450bhp, not really in the same league power wise
450 German horses....
Well, tell the Germans to add more HP.
@@stangedude5646 There's a joke that I assume started with the 911's amazing acceleration times given their relative horsepower, that German horses must be bigger. That's why a 450 hp German car might be expected to compete with a 650 hp American car. Obviously it can't in this case...
@@Blas4ublasphemy Germans don't release the real numbers. It's their strategy.
I agree, the M4 Comp would have been a more fair fight. Although, if they would of want to see a ZL1 being smoke they could used the M4 xDrive version 🤷🏽♂️
The auto M2 runs a 11.7 1/4
11.9 without a prepped surface!
that boy in the M2 doing some slooow shifting. What is up with him???
I want to buy a Camaro one day dream ❤ I'm coming
Just FYI - The ZL1 goes to 62mph in 1st gear with the TR6060.
The m2 is going to win in rolling race but i dont know iff it’s gonna win drag race
Not with those power difference with both running manual. Now i did expect a closer drag race for the obvious reason of traction but pleasantly surprised
This comment didn't age well 😂😂😂
It will get worse starting at 100 mph because the current M models (and M sport such as M340i and the rest of lineup) reduce battery power gradually for the charging to kick in. These are electric cars with gasoline-powered engine-assist. They are not truly gasoline engine power they want the general public to believe. The engine is de-tuned, to allow the battery to boost power.
That camaro is stunning though!!! ❤
The BMW is down 200hp
Yesterday stangmode was super pumped that his mustang gt barely beat a stock m240i with 100hp 50tq less.
Even with a loss it's still a good race for the BMW
That’s a detuned M3/4. Shouldn’t a ZL1 be crushing that car
Oh wait I just saw the second run
Nevermind
You are 200 horses over in the Camaro. To make it fair just let the M2 have the 8 speed automatic, and it would have smoked your 650hp with just 452 horses
Too big of a difference in hp , not interesting, should have raced the m3 m4 not m2.
Damn this video really got me excited for my new M2. Can’t believe its anywhere near that ZL1 with the massive HP difference. I expected this to be much worse
The new m2 is severely underrated. Theyre making somewhere near 700whp with just a tune
@@JP3_C6Z well the S58 motor is amazing. Just wish they didnt come detuned from the factory
Hopefully you are getting an automatic!
@@brianmahar4222 i am
Nice race Sam
Not a fair race 8cyc. Chevy versus 6 in BMW. Try a M5 Competition. Chevy won't be shot at the finish line
Yes let’s race a 150k m5 to a 80 chevy camaro 😂😂😂
Do the 2023 honda civic type r vs 2023 toyota corolla gr hatchback
Did
Wonder how a "normal" SS Camaro with good tires would do against the Beamer.
I love my Camaro. Mine is white on adrenaline red inside. 😎🙂
ZL1 FTW