@@AT43-IR-EU-Vcnãosabenemeu You could buy 2-3 GTRs with the price of an Aventador and Turbo S, and even then it was still arguably faster around a circuit. It was unrivalled for it's price.
@@quaizers not sure why people say that. The GTR transmission is perfectly fine, and it tightens at the limit. It's well known for performing 10/10 when you really get on it.
@@bambookersthe price of the used gtr went down as they went out of warranty because of the 10k trans replacement that could happen any time... is what I heard from the speculation of car investors
I came into the comments just because of that.😂 I think these drivers sometimes forget that the camera is rolling. Not once was that GTS in manual mode. It's a pity. Because if the ZL1 was in auto, it would've won that roll race as well. Which makes that entire race pointless.
And this is what I hate about this channel. On the rolling race from 50 mph in manual mode, the owner of the ZL1 who couldn't even line the car up evenly with the other cars at the start of the video, clearly hit the rev limiter and didn't upshift manually on time, and what does this channel do? Uses that run and doesn't re-run them. smfh
they be tryna recreate physics when it comes to any GM stuff lol or just handicap in general why would u even bring the 1/le i just laugh at videos like this when it’s real life and not youtube lala-land whole different story.
He started off in 3rd gear if anyone was paying attention🤨………like why at 50kph would you start a race off in manual mode in 3rd instead of 2nd at that speed……plus the merc was clearly moving faster because he was behind and tried to level before the line but was moving faster when they started! 😒🤦🏽♂️
Either way the zl1 should of walked the merc. It was the driver. You see him short shitting and getting left at the start on the roll and the drag race. Dude has no idea how to drive
Fun fact. The new AMG GT 63 a 200k plus car does an 11.1 quarter mile. Meanwhile, a bmw m3/m4comp xdrive does an 11.0 quarter mile. 😂😂 and that's not even the new LCI ones with even more HP which someone already got a 10.6 .. embarassing for mercedes
I was about to say how much of a fail that was for the Camaro until the guy in the GTS opened his mouth and yelled POWER! I think that was the biggest fail of the video lol
lol you must new to UA-cam. Mercedes and Porsche dethroned the GTR long time ago. The GTR is one of the crappiest unreliable car as a “super car” even when it was launched.
@@vvvvel yes speaking facts. The GTR was never the king of the ring too. You must have been living in the cave I believe. The GTR while fully claiming it was beating super cars, had a huge transmission issue and also it dies after 3 launches looool porches and Mercedes are the king of the ring long ago. The GTR pro AMG destroyed the Nissan GTR despite being a rear wheel drive. 911 turbos are the benchmark of drag racing. Maybe you have been comparing the Nissan GTR with bicycles in your area. lol deluded kid
🏆Great races! Thanks! It’s impressive how the Nissan, a car designed in 2007/08 can hang on to sport cars launched in 2024! By the way, the ZL1 could do better with a driver mode. Not that the driving was bad, but the ZL1 is just hard to get the best performance with an average driver (on the 2nd roll race the GTS was on auto mode and the ZL1 driver was using the paddle shifters, I could heard it “clicking”). Besides that, the big rear wing is not ideal for high speeds.
The driver of the GT-R needs to go have some classes. Couldn't line up even in the roll race, couldn't launch perfectly twice and cost the race. That GT-R was PULLING!
Sam, I did a 10.63 @ 128 mph 1/4 mile with my 2024 Tesla Model 3 Performance and some weight reductions the other day. The US version of that car is way quicker than the Canadian version. I am moving to the North East of the US next week. It would be really cool if we could ever test the US version against the Canadian version some time?
It's a 1LE which has tons of aero for road courses and creates a ton of drag the higher in speed you go. It's focused more on high speed cornering than straight line speed. They need a regular ZL1. They always do stuff like this on this channel.
@@sebastianbriones9597 They do and it's usually traction & gearing. Less sophisticated traction control systems than the Germans usually being the culprit. Harder to make use of the power from a dig. C8 Corvette seems to have gotten it right. Ford GT too but that's an entirely different price bracket.
The ZL1 1LE was going to have a disadvantage from the start due to its aero giving it a lot of drag at higher speeds, and its stiff DSSV dampers. I don’t know if it was the only variant available to test with, but a non-1LE ZL1 with the same 10-speed would’ve performed better. Though, for an incredibly track focused car, the 1LE did well.
Not that it would change the outcome, but using the 1LE version of the ZL1, with all the extra drag, was kind of a cop out. Should of run the base ZL1. It’s a solid .2-.4 seconds quicker
TO all the naysayers and complainers, the GTR is STILL a boss on the road and look at how it does on a drag strip!!! Still the exotic one for me and sadly it wont be here very long! So well developed and refined and also handbuilt! Keep me aware of your GTR hunt! I m on one for later this year as well! The dream would be to own a brand new last year model, but it seems that people are going to go nuts trying to gain access to one ASAP. Maybe you will find one that has not been beat on for me haha! I do like the special colors the green or multi shades, even the metallic gray or silver to be slightly low pro!
I'm happy with my 2015 GTR .. amazing how detuned they are from stock .. I'm at 850 whp ..maybe 1000hp crank ?? .. before that just a good tune and intakes I was ~620 whp ..
Fun fact. The new AMG GT 63 a 200k plus car does an 11.1 quarter mile. Meanwhile, a bmw m3/m4comp xdrive does an 11.0 quarter mile. 😂😂 and that's not even the new LCI ones with even more HP which someone already got a 10.6 .. embarassing for mercedes
Wow Sam! Amazing cars and details. Appreciate you adding the prices and stats in a nice clean format. The ZL1 is no joke for the $. The GTR vs GT63 was an amazing match up!
Man, the fact that the GT-R keeps up to modern sports/super cars is insane. No wonder I was such a fanboy back in the day. Honestly, if Nissan would just give it a modern transmission but keep everything else with some new styling, they could probably keep the GT-R around for at least another 5 years without spending too much. The race between the ZL1 and old AMG GT was great! Didn't know it would be that close! I prefer the old AMG GT to the new one though with the weight difference and dry sump system I loved both comparisons today. Today's video was awesome!
from a GTR owner who drove performance models from other makes like Audi R8, BMW M, Merc E63S, Aventador, porsches: Changing to the GTR was the best choice, never regretted until today. It was also the fastest among all and the only car that brings along emotions. the R8 and Aventador was closest to it, the rest was just too tamed and comfortable. They are quick too of course, just not as fast as the GTR even tho its a 2008 model. I rebuilt the whole car from head to toe and it pushes 1100hp now with 1300nm torque.
The trick is when you roll race the zl1 don't shift manually it will kill all the top end power the car has. When you do a 40 or 50 roll down shift to 2nd gear and when you take off slap the car back to auto mode.
Man u don't even need that. The m4 comp xdrive would hang with these and most likely win. The new LCI with more HP has already posted a 10.6 quarter mile. So that would 100% win.
Drag Race Shmag Race. BOOOOORRRRIIIING!!!! I want to see these cars compete on REAL Racetracks. Do like 3 laps or more not just on boring ass strips, but tracks with hairpin turns, chicanes, esses, banked turns, sweeping turns, apexes, carousels, double apex turns, corkscrews, U-turns, and kinks. Each of these curves has its own unique challenge, and different racetracks use them in various combinations to create exciting and challenging courses.
GTR is insane man. Such an amazing machine. Remember that thing came out in 2009!!!! Still keeping up with 180k super sport cars(I don’t consider the GT a super car)
GT63 is nice but with that added weight they should've added more power. For that price too im getting cars like McLaren 570 Spyder or McLaren GT, 991.2 Turbo S, Audi R8 V10 Spyder, C8 Z06 or E Ray
The GTR is still relevant against 2024 supercars. Imagine what it was like back when it was new. It was untouchable.
Zr1 beat it. So no it was not untouchable. They needed a modded nismo to run a nurb fast lap. Hell of a car for its time though no doubt.
ZR1, Turbo S and Aventador Wins GTR in 2009-2012.
@@jordank2028
In a straight line yeah, not on the circuit as it was the fastest around the Nurburgring at the time.
@@AT43-IR-EU-Vcnãosabenemeu
You could buy 2-3 GTRs with the price of an Aventador and Turbo S, and even then it was still arguably faster around a circuit. It was unrivalled for it's price.
@@Foiiiii1 In Brazil the price of a 911 997 Turbo S is lower than that GTR, being better in most aspects.
Crazy how a GT-R can keep up with a new GT63
Старичок ещё может!
because it´s 400 lbs lighter
because its base Gt63
@@w211On_top__10 O ok but still..consider the age, price difference and all fancy technology of that gt63
and began creeping faster in the last couple hundred feet.
Hands off to the nissan......this car is just a legend
To Nissan fans.
@@oemj7147 true 😂
*hats off, not hands off (ouch)
@@oemj7147cope
@@marklivos ayyubi
GTR is a legend...unbelievable performance from a decade old heavy 4 door car
4 door? what
*four seats
❤❤❤❤
4 door coupe is pretty wild loo
The GT-R had better top end. You can see it starting to slowly pull
Correct...1/2 mile race and he is gone!! It just needs a better transmission
The GT-R has the better transmission… its a DCT vs a torque converter. Shifts seemed smoother and faster than the GT63 shiftss
@@quaizers not sure why people say that. The GTR transmission is perfectly fine, and it tightens at the limit. It's well known for performing 10/10 when you really get on it.
@@bambookersthe price of the used gtr went down as they went out of warranty because of the 10k trans replacement that could happen any time... is what I heard from the speculation of car investors
The 2nd roll Between GTS and Camaro, GTS wasn't in Manual Mode
i came to wrote the same
I saw that! I wish they'd get small things like that straightened out.
I came into the comments just because of that.😂
I think these drivers sometimes forget that the camera is rolling. Not once was that GTS in manual mode. It's a pity. Because if the ZL1 was in auto, it would've won that roll race as well. Which makes that entire race pointless.
I was bout to say the same thing
Typical sam car legion crap
Y’all need to find a damn track that can race all 4 cars at the same time 🤦♂️
Frrrr
Exactly!!!!
Sounds so easy. 🙄
Agree
So go to Texas basically
that GT-R really surprised me. The R35's a 2000's era car that still keeps up and then some in 2024.
Shocking
Modded it will destroy everything.
It wild how fast they are with dual clutch!
Nah, they changed a lot over time, the modern GTR has a lot of improvements
@@ramsongewargis8736they all are DC transmission
Remember when people complained about the GT-R's being too heavy? And then this modern AMG GT comes in at +400 pounds!
Exact;y complaining about a GTR is almost a disease now lol!
Just gut the trunk of the car, remove the backseats and replace the two-front seats with bucket seats 400 lbs gone.
The GT-R is amazing, still rocking!!!
And this is what I hate about this channel. On the rolling race from 50 mph in manual mode, the owner of the ZL1 who couldn't even line the car up evenly with the other cars at the start of the video, clearly hit the rev limiter and didn't upshift manually on time, and what does this channel do? Uses that run and doesn't re-run them. smfh
@@Hawkeye-zp8bv it seem like he let up on the gas with the Camaro
The Mercedes also wasn't in manual mode for that race either. If you go back and look, he's in auto and doesn't manually shift any gears.
@@deviantarsenalI was going to point this out myself, apparently there is a bias to these races. It is still a moderately intertaining channel though
they be tryna recreate physics when it comes to any GM stuff lol or just handicap in general why would u even bring the 1/le i just laugh at videos like this when it’s real life and not youtube lala-land whole different story.
He started off in 3rd gear if anyone was paying attention🤨………like why at 50kph would you start a race off in manual mode in 3rd instead of 2nd at that speed……plus the merc was clearly moving faster because he was behind and tried to level before the line but was moving faster when they started! 😒🤦🏽♂️
That ZL1 sounds amazing
GTR wow. Still hangs with the big boys. And that Camaro is just beautiful
The ZLE is a track purpose build car , you should have brought the regular ZL1
Fact
Should been a C7
Either way the zl1 should of walked the merc. It was the driver. You see him short shitting and getting left at the start on the roll and the drag race. Dude has no idea how to drive
Bring the Ioniqu n3 to kill all those cars easily....lol.
GT-R is the best value for your money. Godzilla ruling since ages!
That zl1 was $30k+ cheaper
GTR ❤❤ my love
ZL1 one of my top 5 favorite cars
We do know the Nissan GTR is quicker and faster than the GT63S, it all comes to driver
🥱
And all of their drivers are anal
Damn didn't expect the stock, detuned, old GTR to keep up with the modern GT63.. good job Zilla you still impressive after all these years
Why get the high drag ZL1 1LE? Its not pulling nearly as hard as the non 1LE variants. Other wise it would walk away from the GTS
Are you bmw fan
Agreed.
@@mdokoesphumlan7685I highly doubt it bro
Proud to own 2 of these masterpieces so my heart is with the Nissan GTR and Camaro ZL1❤
You sir, have poor taste! Both are trash! 🚮
Honestly, the GTR vs GTS was a driver's race. That .1s difference could be down to reaction, tires, road, etc, it's so minimal
R35 has what the owners refer to as “launch delay” you almost need to guess when the lights going to turn to compensate for it
@@Superdimensional Im so glad someone here actually knows about this.
@@Superdimensional Ahh, yea you can see the MB gets the jump on the launch a split second before the GTR bites.
Fun fact. The new AMG GT 63 a 200k plus car does an 11.1 quarter mile. Meanwhile, a bmw m3/m4comp xdrive does an 11.0 quarter mile. 😂😂 and that's not even the new LCI ones with even more HP which someone already got a 10.6 .. embarassing for mercedes
That ZL1 is fighting its own aerodynamics lol
@@its.Andy1 Dude every channel like this has the 1LE version. They need the non 1LE, I say this every video with the aerodynamics.
I think the regular ZL1 would’ve competed better 1Le is built for downforce and grip
GTR is a world wide recognized supercar✊Would love to see a 2024 gtr vs👍
GTR all day every day!!
Idiots . Mercedes amg gtr is faster
The GTS is the fastest car here stock. They trap 127 mph in the quarter stock.
Couldn't care less with the results, the ZLE will crash them all around track. Plus it is available as a manual, like a real car should be.
I was about to say how much of a fail that was for the Camaro until the guy in the GTS opened his mouth and yelled POWER! I think that was the biggest fail of the video lol
lol Agreed
The new AMG GT is worse than the outgoing model in almost every way.
Sam has been posting bangers after bangers!
Thanks Sam.
Some really hot races are about to come soon
GTR !!!!!
GTR especially when it took 10 years for the Germans to catch up to the road car.
lol you must new to UA-cam. Mercedes and Porsche dethroned the GTR long time ago. The GTR is one of the crappiest unreliable car as a “super car” even when it was launched.
@@rajeevmittoo4221 Says you exactly
@@vvvvel yes speaking facts. The GTR was never the king of the ring too. You must have been living in the cave I believe. The GTR while fully claiming it was beating super cars, had a huge transmission issue and also it dies after 3 launches looool porches and Mercedes are the king of the ring long ago. The GTR pro AMG destroyed the Nissan GTR despite being a rear wheel drive. 911 turbos are the benchmark of drag racing. Maybe you have been comparing the Nissan GTR with bicycles in your area. lol deluded kid
Hey SamCarLegion...drop the completely lame shot of the street light and beeping at the beginning of every drag race.
@@rajeevmittoo4221you’re just making things up lol
🏆Great races! Thanks! It’s impressive how the Nissan, a car designed in 2007/08 can hang on to sport cars launched in 2024! By the way, the ZL1 could do better with a driver mode. Not that the driving was bad, but the ZL1 is just hard to get the best performance with an average driver (on the 2nd roll race the GTS was on auto mode and the ZL1 driver was using the paddle shifters, I could heard it “clicking”). Besides that, the big rear wing is not ideal for high speeds.
@@MarMPB merc's auto shift in manual mode when they about to hit the limiter
@@sassyboy4619 Negative! I have one! Mine bumps the rev limiter and cuts ignition until I upshift!
The driver of the GT-R needs to go have some classes. Couldn't line up even in the roll race, couldn't launch perfectly twice and cost the race.
That GT-R was PULLING!
That high wing slowed that zl1 by a good margin good
I like the nissans sound more,id also pick it as my choice here
Ditto still my dream car!!!
GTR smokes that Mercedes in this video it ran out of room.
It still lost
M4 comp xdrive smokes them all and cost less then most of em
The strawberry guy in the Gts was hilarious 😂
Sam, I did a 10.63 @ 128 mph 1/4 mile with my 2024 Tesla Model 3 Performance and some weight reductions the other day. The US version of that car is way quicker than the Canadian version. I am moving to the North East of the US next week. It would be really cool if we could ever test the US version against the Canadian version some time?
Awesome competition with the way you lined up the cars in their category. Excellent work and great footage.
GT-R will always be 👑
For the price… the GTR is still superior!!!
How is it possible for the GT coupe to weigh the same as the GT 4-door 😂
🥶
We can conclude that AMG GTS is a GOAT
How can a car with 150 LESS HP destroy the ZL1......... that makes absolutely no sense.
And not quite 200 lbs lighter. Something very wrong there.
It's a 1LE which has tons of aero for road courses and creates a ton of drag the higher in speed you go. It's focused more on high speed cornering than straight line speed. They need a regular ZL1. They always do stuff like this on this channel.
@@ojdidit84always struggle with something
@@sebastianbriones9597 They do and it's usually traction & gearing. Less sophisticated traction control systems than the Germans usually being the culprit. Harder to make use of the power from a dig. C8 Corvette seems to have gotten it right. Ford GT too but that's an entirely different price bracket.
Der GT,s hat gewonnen weil der ZL1 ein scheiß Getriebe hat, da kannst du die 150 PS in der Pfeife rauchen!
It's a GT-R that needs more distance 🔥👌🏻
I agree with the last bit, both are my dream cars, nice race
A used Camaro ZL1 is the best bang for the buck and is impressive against cars that cost 3 times as much.
The ZL1 1LE was going to have a disadvantage from the start due to its aero giving it a lot of drag at higher speeds, and its stiff DSSV dampers. I don’t know if it was the only variant available to test with, but a non-1LE ZL1 with the same 10-speed would’ve performed better. Though, for an incredibly track focused car, the 1LE did well.
Mercedes Benz did really good here. Nice video
Not that it would change the outcome, but using the 1LE version of the ZL1, with all the extra drag, was kind of a cop out. Should of run the base ZL1. It’s a solid .2-.4 seconds quicker
Stock Gtr 1/4 mile time is 10.98sec
bro the gts was neck and neck with the zl1 in the final drag race
The gtr and the gt was a tie
Zl1 needs driver mod
Thanks for bringing the ZL1
Sie sind den GTR im Normalmodus gefahren
TO all the naysayers and complainers, the GTR is STILL a boss on the road and look at how it does on a drag strip!!! Still the exotic one for me and sadly it wont be here very long! So well developed and refined and also handbuilt! Keep me aware of your GTR hunt! I m on one for later this year as well! The dream would be to own a brand new last year model, but it seems that people are going to go nuts trying to gain access to one ASAP. Maybe you will find one that has not been beat on for me haha! I do like the special colors the green or multi shades, even the metallic gray or silver to be slightly low pro!
I'm happy with my 2015 GTR .. amazing how detuned they are from stock .. I'm at 850 whp ..maybe 1000hp crank ?? .. before that just a good tune and intakes I was ~620 whp ..
FORD MUSTANG GT500 SHELBY 10.6 SEC VS GTR 11.2 SEC? NOPE SHELBY IS A BOSS
@@TheShadiboy1 NOPE .. his point was about longevity and speed and status
My dream car Mercedes AMG GT GTR and Nissan GT-R!
Use a Zl1 that isn’t a 1LE and get a better driver. Punches above its weight for sure
Mercedes 🖤
Let the auto do its thing in the zl1
GTS looks better, sounds better, and drives better than the new SL cough GT63. I’d much rather have the 600lb lighter GTS
Idk man
Hi the gtr R35 is always the car everyone wants to race it just shows how of an iconic car it is 👌
Watching from South Africa Johannesburg,, we are team mercedes ❤🎉
Fun fact. The new AMG GT 63 a 200k plus car does an 11.1 quarter mile. Meanwhile, a bmw m3/m4comp xdrive does an 11.0 quarter mile. 😂😂 and that's not even the new LCI ones with even more HP which someone already got a 10.6 .. embarassing for mercedes
Tfw one renntech tune and the GTS walks the new one
Whoever was driving the Nissan GT-R needs his license revoke. No way it loses to that Merc. He was holding back intentionally
You’re an idiot
Wow Sam! Amazing cars and details. Appreciate you adding the prices and stats in a nice clean format. The ZL1 is no joke for the $. The GTR vs GT63 was an amazing match up!
Man, the fact that the GT-R keeps up to modern sports/super cars is insane. No wonder I was such a fanboy back in the day.
Honestly, if Nissan would just give it a modern transmission but keep everything else with some new styling, they could probably keep the GT-R around for at least another 5 years without spending too much.
The race between the ZL1 and old AMG GT was great! Didn't know it would be that close!
I prefer the old AMG GT to the new one though with the weight difference and dry sump system
I loved both comparisons today. Today's video was awesome!
Mercedes champion
from a GTR owner who drove performance models from other makes like Audi R8, BMW M, Merc E63S, Aventador, porsches: Changing to the GTR was the best choice, never regretted until today. It was also the fastest among all and the only car that brings along emotions. the R8 and Aventador was closest to it, the rest was just too tamed and comfortable. They are quick too of course, just not as fast as the GTR even tho its a 2008 model. I rebuilt the whole car from head to toe and it pushes 1100hp now with 1300nm torque.
Ever wonder why nobody shows up to races with a merc?
That AMG GTS did really good against the ZL1, of all the cars I’m picking that it’s just gorgeous
I don’t know why I keep expecting to see a hellcat in the line up. SRT vs the world baby!!!
That GTR tho...holy 💩.
Keep up the great work Sam!
Thanks! Will do!
Do Honda civic si vs Kia forte gt vs Volkswagen gti
Why not a finale race ?
Gts vs GT63
The times will tell you everything
Mercedes is the winner here.
How is the GTR 0-60 3.0 sec compared to the GT63 amg 0-60 3.1 sec when the amg GT63 was leading from the line to the finish line?
MB resell “value” = embarrassing… I would go GTR all day long
If the road was long the GTR could win, easily but not choice nice video
What's Camaro doing there?
The trick is when you roll race the zl1 don't shift manually it will kill all the top end power the car has. When you do a 40 or 50 roll down shift to 2nd gear and when you take off slap the car back to auto mode.
The GTS and the GTR also have the transmission in the rear, and the newer AMG and Camaro do not. Weight distribution is important too guys 🙏🙌
Bro , can y’all have drivers that can actually drive correctly , somehow the timing/ launches are always off . Take a look a carwow 👍🏽
the zl1 without the track pack is a bit faster in a drag race
Gt r❤❤❤
And the old AMG GT
Would a G82 M4 comp Xdrive beat all these?
Nop
The m8 competition should’ve been in this race next time maybe an m5 cs👀
Unfortunately, Bmw Canada didn’t have the M8 competition
Man u don't even need that. The m4 comp xdrive would hang with these and most likely win. The new LCI with more HP has already posted a 10.6 quarter mile. So that would 100% win.
Did the driver of the GTR launch it with the launch control? It didn’t appear to and it makes a huge difference.
How many races do they need to do
Drag Race Shmag Race. BOOOOORRRRIIIING!!!!
I want to see these cars compete on REAL Racetracks. Do like 3 laps or more not just on boring ass strips, but tracks with hairpin turns, chicanes, esses, banked turns, sweeping turns, apexes, carousels, double apex turns, corkscrews, U-turns, and kinks. Each of these curves has its own unique challenge, and different racetracks use them in various combinations to create exciting and challenging courses.
Should have had a ZR1 instead of the Camaro
GTR is insane man. Such an amazing machine. Remember that thing came out in 2009!!!! Still keeping up with 180k super sport cars(I don’t consider the GT a super car)
That guy driving the GTS in the 2nd race did not look like he was using the manual shifting with any paddles behind the wheel
Gtr is still the best performance for dollar, and tune ability of those cars is unmatched considering it still holds the record for fastest street car
GT63 is nice but with that added weight they should've added more power. For that price too im getting cars like McLaren 570 Spyder or McLaren GT, 991.2 Turbo S, Audi R8 V10 Spyder, C8 Z06 or E Ray