The New Powerslide Hardcore Evo and Why I'm Disappointed
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- What's up Skate Fam? In this episode, I'm going to talk about why the new Hardcore Evo is not what I expected and what I think it would be better used for. Powerslide's Hardcore Evo is a inline skating fan favorite that has become more and more popular over the years. I've been skating the original Evo for a few years now, but I have also had the newer Hardcore Evo for over one year now and I feel like it's been long enough for me to have a good feel of what the differences in these two Hardcore Evos are. I am a little disappointed, but I still think it's a great skate. Watch the whole video to find out who I think this skate is for!
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A couple of mistakes in this video to note:
At 7:30 I meant to say that the older Evo has a thinner tongue than the new one. New=thicker (and only if you’re ordering the custom model). Old=thinner.
At 8:18 I said I’ve skated the new Evo for a few years. I meant to say the old Evo. I have only had the new Evo for one year.
At 14:37 I meant to say “If the old Evo is a 10 out of 10 then the new one is a 7.5 out of 10.
Did a lot of this vid on the fly so there may be more mistakes I didn’t catch after upload. Thanks for watching!
I am truly frustrated, because on paper and theory the Trinity mount sounds fantastic. Although I rode the HC Evo (new version) for a short moment since they were too short (big foot needs EU 47 :D). The only thing I really noticed are the rattling buckles. So I set high hopes on the customs but honestly 649.99€ are too much for my taste for just boot only version and I couldn't care less about colours. Now they are offering the customs for 599.00€ but Trinity only.
Anyway, when they are kind of useless for slalom skating (because of your shown softness), which skate would perform better (purely) for slalom? I guess Seba High Light Carbon / Pros (at my level I am not quite sure I really need a carbon cuff, but a changable option would be nice though)?
I have seen the Iqon TR10/CL10. Just for the looks I like the CL10 more then I realized they have a 165 mount only.
I guess I should dump the Trinity mount and go for 165mount, since all slalom skater I know uses 165 mount? Also comparing Tau, CL/TR10 with HC EVO, and the Seba how important is a velcro strap for slalom technically speaking?
@@klerkusmaximus For slalom I can recommend the Seba High Light. It's cheap and gives more stability than the HC Evo. It's half the price and the buckles don't rattle, last practically forever and I've never had to change the straps. But he needs a certain break-in period. For me, the FR Spin is on the same level as the HC Evo in terms of quality and style. This is the best choice for everyone who is looking for a cheap and very comfortable skate. It rides excellently, but due to the low cuff and the soft boot design, it gives less support than the Seba highlight. But at least as much as the HC Evo. At the same time, both skates, the Seba High Light and the FR Spin, offer significantly better usability compared to the HC Evo, which is twice as expensive. Compared to these 2 skates, the HC Evo is overpriced. For the money you also get the Seba Highlight Carbon or if you prefer the low cuff the FR Igor. www.warehouse-one.de/en/fr-skates/igor-inline-skate-2023-black.html
Just discovered your channel. My two skates are the old hardcore evo and the seba high light v10s and in white too!
Thank you for this detailed review. Did you end up getting the FR Spins? I own a pair and they are great!
I did not, but a friend of mine got them recently and says he loves them. They seem really well made when I've handled them. I'm really interested in the new Crossfire Carbon that Rollerblade is about to put out.
Man, I love to hear you talking!
Great video sir!! I always appreciate your in-depth thoughts. I have been on the new evos for about 6 months now. I feel that the fit and comfort is really good, although I did not skate any older evo model. I do find that they are a bit narrow for my bigger foot (my right foot). Certainly the responsiveness/feel is much better than the swell or next, but of course it's a different price point. I really like the trinity mount though, and this is the best skate I have had for both urban and slalom skating. Not sure if I would like an fr or Seba boot more but no trinity option there. Thanks again for your in depth review and information, info like this is hard to come by!!
thanks, was about to pull the trigger on some customs for the 165 mount but based on this I'm going to hold off. have the 2020 evo
How would you compare it to the Adapt Hyperskate GTO?
Have you thought about getting some adapt gtos
nice video 😄 it's so hard to get new skates that fit well and in general are perfect for your use 😅 I try to avoid buying new ones as well because of this. so sad
I really like my Evos -- purchased earlier this year. Same reason I bought them was because I could not find any info on the FR Spins, and there sometimes being fitment issues with different 165 mount frames.
I chose to switch the 45º ratchet strap with the velcro strap from the Lomax Aeon. The cuff, imo, is very soft, almost useless -- I was lucky enough to put my foot into an Iqon TR10 and the cuff is amazing, the carbon also felt stiffer than the Evo.
The rattling is maddening and I am currently seeking velcro replacements, especially considering how the ratchet straps loosen while skating (this is also true on the TR10). My biggest gripe? If you want to buy a Powerslide replacement velcro strap, they do not come with bolts. I also have the issue with loosening my ratchet and nearly damaging my thumb to remove them. On both my Evo and Next boot, the straps are permanently warped.
Excellent review!!! 5 stars
hey. i own the 2019 model and need an new pair of skates. is there an update or current thoughts to the 2021 version? the 2019 model isn't available any more.. Im more into jumps and skatepark (without grinding on aggressive skates)
If you want the 2019 you are going to have to buy a used one 🤷🏻♀️
Very good detailed video. I got the seba high light carbon pro because of this redesign. The carbon pro is light and very durable like the old evo. The new evo just looks like a rec skate to me now . So sad but the sebas are great.
I have both the HC Evos and the Seba High Light Carbon skates.
I'm with you on the Sebas!
I love my Evos, but the rattling is terrible, and I really have to pay attention when lacing up.
They do fit like a glove but can be too tight very easily.
The Sebas, I just throw them on and I can wear them 24/7 very comfortably.
Thank you for your video. I bought the stock black a year ago. This is my 6th pair of skates and the only carbon boot I own. I would say this is my least favorite pair. The top buckles rattled so bad that I had to change them. It's very hard to get my foot in and out and even after heat molding them I feel too much compression on the toe box area which causes my toes to go numb after long skates. I like the power transfer and the sturdiness.
From your description here, it sounds like the skate is also too narrow for your foot.
wait when did powerslide have new evo hc?
What you don't like I do like! They do have a tad more give but that's nice if your feet are wider. Old Evos used to hurt my toes after 2 hours, I'd get numbness. New Evos are far more comfortable and I can wear them for 5 hours.
Agree about the mid strap... Not as good a bit flimsy.
Yeah I always loved the look of the HC Evo, but definitely the older model. I would have bought a pair but I fear they won't fit my wide feet! I think I remember you already thought the new ones were inferior when it came to buckles and straps?
Still a very good skate, just not as good as the older model.
I feel the same about FR, I recently bought the FR FR1 deluxe intuition, and while it's a quality skate, the older, Seba FR1's are just superior in quality. I feel the plastic used in the new FR FR1's seems thinner, cheaper. Just my personal opinion.
I have three pairs of Seba FR1'S, different frame setups, 2015 and 2016 models, and they are like gold to me now.
I have no experience with the Seba versions but I did skate the FR on one foot and the Next on another. The FR plastic is without a doubt softer/more flexible. I felt like I was skating in mush, with the FR boot.
Currently sk8ng
PowerSlide Hardcore Evo 44
Endless 84 Trinity Black 🖤
UnderCover Cosmic Rosche 80
Sonic Swiss
What is your current set up y'all? Oss
Hello! Can you tell me your Foot measurements? (mondo) only to confirm the sizing of the Evo. Thank you
@@moonsol it's been a while. I think I'm 211 mondo
I loved this useful comparison of the new vs old Evos!
Out of curiosity, if supposing someone were in the market for a higher-end trinity-mount urban skate, what might you recommend these days? Because it sure sounds like these new Evos-well good-don’t seem to be nearly as good as they used to be within that market?
You could wait for the Iqon TR20 to come out. The TR10 is the only trinity boot they have out right now but seems to be similar to the Evo other than the lace system. The TR20 has been teased on Iqon’s Instagram stories a few times and will have a removable liner from the get-go so you can easily throw in a shock pad. Afaik it’s the only carbon trinity boot that won’t have an integrated liner and will essentially be the trinity version of the factory linerless Seba SX
Hey Ashley! Like Phorpse said, Iqon also has Trinity skates under the Disroyal line. Iqon is essentially just Powerslide acting under a different name.
The TR-10 essentially looks like a rebranded, slightly redesigned HC Evo. Obvious differences are the carbon cuff and auto lacing system. However, I see no evidence that the front quarters, specifically the arch and toe box areas, are any different from the new Evos, based on the material I see in photos. I would have to hold this in skate and try it on before I would recommend. It may just be similar to the new Evo with a stiffer cuff.
disroyal.com/collections/iqon-tr-skates/products/tr-10-boot
I have heard some decent things about the newer “killer whale” colored Tau, but it’s harder to get and I also have no personal experience with it.
Best practice is, order from a place that does free returns like Inline Warehouse. Try it on in the house and inspect it closely for flaws to see if it suits you. Send it back if it doesn’t pass.
@@DeezSkates I soooo appreciate all that detailed advice-thanks so much!
@@Phorpse That’s all helpful info-thank you!
did you consider looking into Wizard skates given that the pricing is about the same?
I did not at the time I bought these, but I have since. I just don’t think they’ll fit my style well, and they’re much heavier.
@@DeezSkates Great point, the heaviness of the boot is a huge consideration even in my case.
Si los evo custom costaran lo mismo que los evo antiguos , cuales comprarías?
If the custom Evos were to cost the same as the old Evos, which would you buy? I think he just wouldn't buy the newer model. Creo que el no compraría los nuevos. Parece demasiado como un 'fitness skate'.
Been admiring your Skate Style and insight into all things Rolling. Couldn't be better timed as I am now looking to replace my one year old PS HC Evos. Absolutely love the Looks the Fit the Comfort, I just want some extra rigidity and support. I'm pretty sure Ricardo Lino shared the same opinion about the older Evo model being more rigid, better quality and a general nicer product.
I have found a brand new pair of the older Evos in stock in my size. It's just going to be mad expensive with import costs but, hey, when you love to roll.
I was looking at trying either FR Igor's, Micro Delta f or FR Spins but a more supportive version of my Evos sounds perfect.
I did try on a pair of the new Icon TR10 boots as they appeared to be a very rigid pair of Evos but wow are they uncomfortable even with my low volume easily pleased feet.
I may well buy me some older Evos if they are in physical stock.
Nice one Deez...👊
Bit of an update, I ended up getting my hands on a pair of Micro Delta HML.
Word is they're a Seba Trix Carbon boot but with all new and much stiffer materials and cuffs. They look sick with the black white boot and multi coloured Melt Frames.
Should be test riding them over the weekend.
@@MrGutterbunny
I skated with Lino awhile back and his thoughts on these new Evos seemed pretty close to mine. Though I can’t speak for him directly.
Brad, from Endless blading has the Micro Delta F and loves them. I hear good things so it sounds like you made a good choice. I’ve been very interested in trying out the new Rollerblade carbon skates.
@@DeezSkates
In a rather unexpected chain of events I ended up with a pair of Micro Delta HML not currently available to buy in the UK.
Call me Mr Exclusive 😎
Thanks for sharing, Dude. Very disappointing. I always thought the original Evos looked like a comfortable, high performance skate, and I’m sad to hear that PS have reduced the quality of a skate that appears to have a significant following. $700 is ridiculous for just the boot and I’m quite sure many others will realise what you have and steer clear.
Yes, I liked this video, but I bought the hardcore evos just before You made this video :D
And my thoughts were similar to Yours, even though I didnt have the old ones, my first feeling was, these skates are SOFT, i wasn't expecting this at all, I thought it was meant to be hardcore, top performance, not top comfort and these are comfortable from out of the box, so that is good I guess but I feel like i lack support even though its a carbon skate. And the rattle is savage by the way. Thats why Ill be writing to powerslide to rename this model from hardcore evos to hardcore rattle. Or maybe it should be softcore rattle ? im not sure but something that reflects more the real character of the skate.
FWIW I think Ricardo Lino had a video where he said similar things about the latest version of the HC Evo (that they were soft like a sneaker) and he had an earlier video from his PS sponsorship days where he said the Evo was one of his favorite boots.
Funny you say that. Lino and I skated together in April or May of this year and discussed our thoughts on this matter at length. It was one of the first things we talked about when he realized I was wearing the old Evo on our skate.
I have the older Hardcore Evo Pro that I spent time heat molding. I wouldn’t trade it for any other skate boot. They are awesome. The only thing else that could interest me is the adapt hyper skate.
Patent leather not lasting is why I stopped purchasing certain Nike Dunks back in the day. It is an issue of the material itself. It is for appearances and requires a lot of care.
For slalom I can recommend the Seba High Light. It's cheap and gives more stability than the HC Evo. It's half the price and the buckles don't rattle, last practically forever and I've never had to change the straps. But he needs a certain break-in period. For me, the FR Spin is on the same level as the HC Evo in terms of quality and style. This is the best choice for everyone who is looking for a cheap and very comfortable skate. It rides excellently, but due to the low cuff and the soft boot design, it gives less support than the Seba highlight. But at least as much as the HC Evo. At the same time, both skates, the Seba High Light and the FR Spin, offer significantly better usability compared to the HC Evo, which is twice as expensive. Compared to these 2 skates, the HC Evo is overpriced. For the money you also get the Seba Highlight Carbon or if you prefer the low cuff the FR Igor.
This is a great comparison. I had the old Evos for just over a year but I cracked the carbon on the right boot near the front left trinity mounting point. So now I have the new Evos because they were still under warranty but sadly didn’t have any old ones available.
I’m really not a fan of the mesh look of the new ones. They look like a sneaker compared to the high end leather boot that the old ones did. I’m also in Canada and skate year-round so I was worried about the cold coming in through the mesh during the winter. And I was right, which caused me to favour other boots until it warmed up again.
I know it was a minor thing that you mentioned, but I really appreciated the Kevlar lines in the old boot. They wrap around each eyelet so your laces would just pull the skin in better over your foot. It seems that Powerslide also did away with the Kevlar lines on the Reign hockey line which makes me glad that I have the Kronos still and haven’t had to replace them with the Aries.
The buckles were a non-issue for me since I replaced the top ratchet buckle with a standard push one, and the 45 degree with a leather strap (I do mostly urban, pretty much no slalom). I really didn’t like the tongue or mesh liner on either Evo so I gutted the new Evos as soon as holes started popping up in the mesh this time. The old ones had some holes before replacement too. The boot feels way better with an Intuition v2 liner, though it opened up about half a size. I went from a tight performance fit to more of a comfort fit but I would 100% gut it again.
Wow! Thanks for sharing! That sounds like a disappointing experience!
@@DeezSkates Thanks for making this video! It's things like this that will hopefully reverse Powerslide's course for lower quality. It's definitely been a journey but I think they're in a good spot now! As a bonus, I was able to help some other people by documenting my gutting process, so that they could feel more confident about going through with it and getting more support in the Evo boots via Intuition.
I wish I had seen this video before I bought my custom evos. The red that I choose is as shiny as the gold you got and I'm super disappointed. Hopefully they give me what I asked for if not. Refund
Damn, I would be calling Powerslide with all of these problems & tell them to try again! Those skates look completely different than the picture! Even the tongue is different than the picture. Uggg!
Not surprised at all to hear that any sizeable company would lower the quality of their skates as the company size grows and their profits soar. Called greed.
Ugh. Not what I wanted to hear while waiting for a pair to arrive in the mail. Still, appreciate the video.
Hi Sirclimbs!
What happened to your skates? Could you tell us what you think?
Thanks!
@@moonsol I like the boots, though I can't say whether they are better or worse than the preceding version. The cuff buckles rattle and I intend to replace them. Also the buckles don't pull very much of the strap through at a time. So, yeah, pretty consistent with this video.
@@sirclimbs-a-lot9020 Thank you very much for your answer !
Just to know, could you tell me how long your foot measures from heel to toe? and what size of EVO did you buy?
Could I finally ask you... would you buy them again? Would you choose a different model?
thank you so much
@@moonsol 241.5mm long, 95.5mm wide (measuring with foot on paper and heel against wall), purchased EU 39, which felt slightly too big, exchanged for EU 38, which is about as tight as I think I can tolerate. Initial break-in was rough. I did bake them in the oven a couple of times to heat mold. Now, maybe 200 miles later, they're great for maybe 2 hours, then my toes go numb. It's worth mentioning that I have some orthotic insoles in these, so someone else's experience might differ. I also have a pair of FR1s, and they feel roomier but still as small as I would go with that skate. I'm satisfied with them (I usually choose them over the FR1s but not always), but I can't say whether I'd purchase them again. I'd probably shop around more.
Just a response to this video... First, I don't agree with your definitions about the two skates. Both skates are great for slalom, urban, street skating. However, the original HC Evos were very much aimed at slalom hence the super stiff upper and tongue, but a lot of skaters complained/commented that they weren't comfortable for all day urban skating (yes urban, not fitness). While the newer version is more aimed at urban skating from the off with a slightly softer upper and tongue directly aimed at satisfying that skate demand while still being able to perform for slalom skaters which it does very well.
Next, if you want a tight fit and are using the straps to get this then you are doing up your skates wrong from the start. That's what the laces are for. The straps are an extra layer of support just for that slight extra edge but you should be able to skate perfectly without them even done up. Personally I don't need or want my skates that tight so I only rely on the straps after having swapped out laces for some elastic cord which is now fitted permanently so I don't have to bother with them and I skate just fine. The only time I have skates tight, is on my ice hockey skates but that's my choice. Ultimately whether you like the changes or not, that is personal preference but it is utterly incorrect to label them as 'fitness' skates.
I do agree regarding the images though as if I had ordered bronze and they arrived gold than I would not be happy. However, if the colour selected stated gold then I don't see the issue as it's well known that specific colours don't always look correct via a computer screen. I also wouldn't even entertain the idea that the bling wouldn't scuff straight off. That's why I would never have anything other than a matte black anywhere that is likely to be scuffed and scrapped. Same with the Nexus frame that I have which is black and gets scraped on the edges all the time and then shows silver but that is nothing that can't be fixed with a quick colouring over with an Edding paint marker.
I understand that these skates aren't a 10/10 for you... but I feel that you were expecting something without knowing what you were buying. The are MKII HC Evos, not MKI... it's up to you to know if the MKII skates suit you or not.
Anyway... no hate here just some honest feedback.
Hey Poker!
I've been thinking about getting some Evos 2021, or a FR Spin. Videos and reviews like this have made me doubt a lot, especially about the softness.
Your comments have helped me a lot.
I could ask you today if you would choose the Evo 2021 over the Spin? Give me your honest opinions =)
Last thing, taking advantage. Could you tell me your mondo point and what size of evo you have? My second big fear is order the wrong size . Thanks a lot!
@@moonsol the Spins are better for the half Price
@@pit9623 What happens is that I have the opportunity to buy them at almost the same price, hence my doubt about which one to choose
@@moonsol The Spin's are great skates and they are a fair bit cheaper too. However, the most basic rule of choosing a skate is make your own choice. Go to a shop if you can and try them both. What I may like you may hate and vice versa. Get the correct size for yourself and choose which skates you prefer. If you have any doubts, don't waste your money... wait until you are certain.
My size etc isn't important... if I was buying today and the fit was correct, then I'd probably go for the HC Evo 'Sam Croft Pro' version... but they are around £150 more than standard Evos and £200 more than the Spins... but that would probably be my choice of what is out today.
@@PokerMuppet Thank you for your words
What happens, and why to ask you the size and measurements is because it is very difficult to find those skates in stores, almost always has to be online or imported
It´s too much bashing for my taste, guys. The new Evos are my favorite skate by far. They are tight enough for my urban skills. They are nimble as hell. They react immediately as a sportcar. Can wear them all time long…
The PS quality is not the best. I like FR and seba more. However, you cant compare the FR spins to Evos - I have both. And the Evos are the far better skates. Spins are much less supportive. But they are light and comfy.
But none of the are comparable to fitness skates. Fitness skates are a terrible product. Dont understand how can anyone buy them…
I’m glad you like them. To be clear, I don’t hate them. I’m just disappointed that they are not as good as the older Evo, and even the stock model costs more now. To me, they are just a high performance fitness skate, but everyone has a different style. I’m glad they don’t feel that way for you. Appreciate your input about the FR Spin. I haven’t had the opportunity to try them yet.
VICORULEZ,🎉
Hello! After all these months you still have that opinion?
I just between buying some fr spin, or a evo 2021, but comments like "it's a hard fitness boot" scares me.
Could you update your opinion?
And one last thing, could you share your mondo point? And your number in spin and evo? I'm afraid order for the wrong number. Thanks a lot! 🎉
@@moonsol absolutely love the Evos. Will probably never put on the FR spins again… go for the Evos all the way would be my recommendation. (Cant think of any other skate that I would prefer)
@@moonsol Definitely buy the FR Spin. If you buy a 3x90 frame and the right wheels, you'll have a lot of fun. The comfort is incredibly good and the support and responsiveness at HC Evo level or better. The optics are similar to the FR Igor.
@@Vicorulez Thanks for your comments.. I appreciate it.
Sorry for the insistence, could you tell me how long is your foot from heel to toe? and what size evo did you choose? thank you!
I bought a new evo and I am disappointed. The shoes look nice, but the quality of the materials leaves much to be desired. The boots have some shortcomings, namely a badly sewn (or badly glued in) insert in the heel area. The insert is higher than the shell on which the glue is applied, when it gets in it sticks to the bottom, and when I lift my leg up, it comes off. I was advertising the product and they sent me new shoes ... with the same problem, only in the second shoe! In addition, on the one boot, there is a poorly glued shoe when attaching the trinity. I haven't ridden them yet. I've tried to come to terms with it and hope it will take shape, but I realize these are $ 600 skates, and not some ordinary noname. Powerslide is not writing anything back, they blew it after sending the second pair. They just read the message. I am thinking of returning my rolls because the quality is deplorable
Yea that X shaped insert they added in for heel lock is glued to the mesh and not really attached to the carbon very well. Basically it’s mesh->glue->X insert->foam backing->ton of glue->carbon. So the X could definitely come loose and move with the mesh.
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I skate one year on new evo. Is disappointing for that price. Feet control is not perfect becouse of new material. I can skate only on tight shoelaces. Straps are a joke, extra bad fashion ornaments.
I'd be disappointed Ordering such a awful colour.
The quality of this skate is horrible. I used 5 times and they broke
:( I'm sorry to hear that.
@@DeezSkates thanks for answering. The problem is huge and Powerslide is censoring my messages so people don't realise the security problem that this skates have. You don't have to publish this comment if you don't want to, but please watch the video. In this video you can see the small nuts used compared to a classic nut. It is so small that it could just not hold my weight. I am about 80 kg. ua-cam.com/users/shortswM3oQNvQeEk?feature=share