@@LanzerYT No you have to think and revaluate your point my friend. I would not take your point with anything infantry as you do not know just like I don't take medical advice from some random on the street, learn from someone alright at the game how to play max give it a few weeks and then rethink, or don't and continue to hold you uneducated point of view based on no hands on experience. the take home should not be how you say you can hit things.
If every playstyle is acceptable and it doesn't matter whether or not you play the game in a "correct" way, what are we supposed to balance the game around?
My opinion: Everything. Stats, sentiment, advice from the pros (like Cami, Aeflic, Lex, etc), dev perspective, integration into the whole concept, business/branding.
@@LanzerYT You cannot, in any game, balance something off of "everything". You can say you are, but balance decisions are regularly made in PS2 without taking into account the whole picture. So defining "everything" is subjective because "everything" includes things that you think matter that may or may not match what someone else thinks matters. Stats can only show so much of something that needs tuning, but they are at least a place to look. For example, is A2G balanced? Statistically speaking, A2G accounts for very little of the deaths in this game and not many have a high KD using A2G alone. However, many see it as too strong. Why would that be? Stats don't show everything. Advice from the better players like Cami, Aeflic, etc. is good advice to take considering they know a lot about how the game is played at a fundamental and "professional" level. However, you yourself think this position is not valid and shouldn't be used. In your video at 7:45 you say "You want to rebalance the whole game based off the best players in the game? Dude, this is not the game to be doing that in." Right now you are contradicting yourself because if you want to say balance it off "everything" then people like Cami and Aeflic should have their opinions considered because they take the time to play this game at an advanced level. But, you just said that's not how it should be. So you can't even agree with yourself right now. Taking their opinions into consideration should be the point of agreement here. Also, opinions from people that don't know how the game is actually played, like people that have the most absurdly wild playstyles that do not fit into the game, or those who don't play the game without any fundamental understanding of the mechanics, should not have their opinions considered. This is true across almost every game for good reason. There is a reason that competitive games tend to take the advice of the top players more than the bottom 70%. I'm not sure why this is controversial. You cannot account for EVERY playstyle across EVERY area of EVERY game. Your idea of balancing things off of "everything" is simply not how it works.
@@Dudisfludis Saying "You want to rebalance the whole game based off the best players in the game" is not a contradiction to taking into account the advice of good players. Nor is it an excuse to discard their opinion. It's recognition that 100% of the decision pie cannot be made up of 10% of the playerbase's experience.
@@LanzerYT To reiterate what I said earlier: You answered my question with “everything”. I just told you exactly why that does not and will not ever work. That means there must be some primary way of determining how something gets balanced because balancing something based off of the subjective meaning of “everything” is impossible to do. So, what do you primarily want to balance stuff on? Considering the only people that know the game inside and out and who have played it at very high levels with supreme fundamental understanding of the game are the “professional” or “top X%”, it would seem like their opinions hold a lot more weight than someone like you who has clearly shown you do not understand anything about infantry, or more broadly the FPS genre. If I had to take a gamble on who or what should be the *primary* consideration of balance change in the game, I would bet on the “professional” or “top X%” player a lot more than a player like yourself.
@@LanzerYT so if you're not talking about balance (and using yourself as an illustrative example), then what are you talking about then? What's even the topic of conversation? If that's not it then it's nothing.
just because you're playing a MAX, doesn't mean you can completely ignore positioning, and then try to make the case that "see, I died" when you get archer'd in the face.
Which death did I say that? I don't think I meant that to mean it's okay to ignore positioning. My post mortem with a lot of the people on my stream yesterday was met with relative silence when I asked "where else should I have been?" I'll ask you. Where would you have been at that exact moment
@@LanzerYT the answer isn't where you should have been, the answer is you assumed because you were in a max, your positioning didn't matter. you were graphically shown twice that it does matter. if you're going to stand out in the open with everyone on the oppo looking at you, you can bet at this stage of the game that you are gonna eat a bunch of decis, or archers. Especially at this point of the lifespan of this game, everyone and their brother is a tryhard to some extent, and two guys with archers are gonna make you look stupid for standing there. And where I would have been at that exact moment would be playing any other class than a max. Either sniping off the roof, jumping over with LA, or supporting a push with HA or MED or Engy. You getting face fucked by every TR looking at you doesn't make any point other than you had no idea what you were doing in that max.
@@LanzerYT I was on the stream, and still am, baffled that you would ask such a question about your positioning. Common sense, or reasoning, or just thinking for approximately 0.2286629 of a second, would tell you that in a gun fight between players you should not just stand out in the open for people to shoot you. You thought my video was comical? You laughed at my video on your stream which tells me it was funny to you. Maybe you should watch back your own video because I did the exact same thing as you i.e. standing where everyone could see and shoot me and I died in the same way you did. If you thought my video was funny, you now know exactly why you are getting such negative feedback for this video. It is impossible for me at this point to actually agree with you that you are an “average player.” You are 100%, without a doubt, in the bottom 35% of the playerbase if this is actually how you play - using no common sense whatsoever. Using your video as an example of dying multiple times in a MAX suit in the most idiotic ways possible as a base point for a discussion about balance and claiming you are an “average player” (which you have multiple times) is the most dishonest way to have a discussion that I can possibly think of. You are, at best, a naive FPS player. You are not the average, you are below the average. Your video only demonstrates this clearly if it was meant to be an actual, serious response to Cami.
Set your texture quality to ultra and then everything else to low and that's pretty much what I have. Other than that make sure your render quality is 100%.
It's a bit more than sarcasm dude. Your gameplay shown was abysmal, you contradicted yourself ("aggressive player" standing on the Nasons wall, rofl) and your opinions/comments were absurd and stupid.
@@LanzerYT just 1 little tip for the future: the lion part of what makes NC maxes OP is the Aegis shield. You not even using it shows how little clue you have about the topic. Carry on being laughed at.
@@tartaros3 Careful now, you might get eaten by other NC with that comment. I used to use shield, back when shield was helpful with charge. It isn't helpful nowadays.
I wish he said “I could hit things” just one more time
good catch. I'll try to watch how much I say that.
@@LanzerYT No you have to think and revaluate your point my friend. I would not take your point with anything infantry as you do not know just like I don't take medical advice from some random on the street, learn from someone alright at the game how to play max give it a few weeks and then rethink, or don't and continue to hold you uneducated point of view based on no hands on experience. the take home should not be how you say you can hit things.
@@upyermaw2732 gotcha
"Because I can hit things"
I feel blessed
And blessed you are, Apollo. Blessed you are.
If every playstyle is acceptable and it doesn't matter whether or not you play the game in a "correct" way, what are we supposed to balance the game around?
My opinion: Everything. Stats, sentiment, advice from the pros (like Cami, Aeflic, Lex, etc), dev perspective, integration into the whole concept, business/branding.
@@LanzerYT You cannot, in any game, balance something off of "everything". You can say you are, but balance decisions are regularly made in PS2 without taking into account the whole picture. So defining "everything" is subjective because "everything" includes things that you think matter that may or may not match what someone else thinks matters.
Stats can only show so much of something that needs tuning, but they are at least a place to look. For example, is A2G balanced? Statistically speaking, A2G accounts for very little of the deaths in this game and not many have a high KD using A2G alone. However, many see it as too strong. Why would that be? Stats don't show everything.
Advice from the better players like Cami, Aeflic, etc. is good advice to take considering they know a lot about how the game is played at a fundamental and "professional" level. However, you yourself think this position is not valid and shouldn't be used. In your video at 7:45 you say "You want to rebalance the whole game based off the best players in the game? Dude, this is not the game to be doing that in." Right now you are contradicting yourself because if you want to say balance it off "everything" then people like Cami and Aeflic should have their opinions considered because they take the time to play this game at an advanced level. But, you just said that's not how it should be. So you can't even agree with yourself right now. Taking their opinions into consideration should be the point of agreement here.
Also, opinions from people that don't know how the game is actually played, like people that have the most absurdly wild playstyles that do not fit into the game, or those who don't play the game without any fundamental understanding of the mechanics, should not have their opinions considered. This is true across almost every game for good reason. There is a reason that competitive games tend to take the advice of the top players more than the bottom 70%. I'm not sure why this is controversial. You cannot account for EVERY playstyle across EVERY area of EVERY game. Your idea of balancing things off of "everything" is simply not how it works.
@@Dudisfludis Saying "You want to rebalance the whole game based off the best players in the game" is not a contradiction to taking into account the advice of good players. Nor is it an excuse to discard their opinion. It's recognition that 100% of the decision pie cannot be made up of 10% of the playerbase's experience.
@@LanzerYT To reiterate what I said earlier:
You answered my question with “everything”. I just told you exactly why that does not and will not ever work. That means there must be some primary way of determining how something gets balanced because balancing something based off of the subjective meaning of “everything” is impossible to do. So, what do you primarily want to balance stuff on? Considering the only people that know the game inside and out and who have played it at very high levels with supreme fundamental understanding of the game are the “professional” or “top X%”, it would seem like their opinions hold a lot more weight than someone like you who has clearly shown you do not understand anything about infantry, or more broadly the FPS genre.
If I had to take a gamble on who or what should be the *primary* consideration of balance change in the game, I would bet on the “professional” or “top X%” player a lot more than a player like yourself.
@@Dudisfludis I would take that gamble too.
i think balancing things around awful players being able to use them effectively is such a stupid take i can hardly believe it
That's not what I said.
@@LanzerYT yes you did. Hint: the awful player in question is you.
@@tartaros3 Give me the timestamp where I said those words.
@@LanzerYT so if you're not talking about balance (and using yourself as an illustrative example), then what are you talking about then? What's even the topic of conversation? If that's not it then it's nothing.
Cool to see you're still around
Hammerboss moment
lol Love the sarcasm.
real and true
This is great
just because you're playing a MAX, doesn't mean you can completely ignore positioning, and then try to make the case that "see, I died" when you get archer'd in the face.
Which death did I say that? I don't think I meant that to mean it's okay to ignore positioning. My post mortem with a lot of the people on my stream yesterday was met with relative silence when I asked "where else should I have been?" I'll ask you. Where would you have been at that exact moment
@@LanzerYT where should I have put my CQC tank, other than on the walls in the literal centre of map visible for everyone. What a mystery.
@@LanzerYT the answer isn't where you should have been, the answer is you assumed because you were in a max, your positioning didn't matter. you were graphically shown twice that it does matter.
if you're going to stand out in the open with everyone on the oppo looking at you, you can bet at this stage of the game that you are gonna eat a bunch of decis, or archers.
Especially at this point of the lifespan of this game, everyone and their brother is a tryhard to some extent, and two guys with archers are gonna make you look stupid for standing there.
And where I would have been at that exact moment would be playing any other class than a max. Either sniping off the roof, jumping over with LA, or supporting a push with HA or MED or Engy.
You getting face fucked by every TR looking at you doesn't make any point other than you had no idea what you were doing in that max.
@@LanzerYT I was on the stream, and still am, baffled that you would ask such a question about your positioning.
Common sense, or reasoning, or just thinking for approximately 0.2286629 of a second, would tell you that in a gun fight between players you should not just stand out in the open for people to shoot you.
You thought my video was comical? You laughed at my video on your stream which tells me it was funny to you. Maybe you should watch back your own video because I did the exact same thing as you i.e. standing where everyone could see and shoot me and I died in the same way you did. If you thought my video was funny, you now know exactly why you are getting such negative feedback for this video.
It is impossible for me at this point to actually agree with you that you are an “average player.” You are 100%, without a doubt, in the bottom 35% of the playerbase if this is actually how you play - using no common sense whatsoever. Using your video as an example of dying multiple times in a MAX suit in the most idiotic ways possible as a base point for a discussion about balance and claiming you are an “average player” (which you have multiple times) is the most dishonest way to have a discussion that I can possibly think of.
You are, at best, a naive FPS player. You are not the average, you are below the average. Your video only demonstrates this clearly if it was meant to be an actual, serious response to Cami.
How do you make your game so high definition? can share your ini ?
Set your texture quality to ultra and then everything else to low and that's pretty much what I have. Other than that make sure your render quality is 100%.
lol planet side 2 in 2023.
Dudis you're only upset because you can't hit things smh
Damn dudis, you really fell off.
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lol
Lol. Nice video. I can appreciate the sarcasm :)
It's a bit more than sarcasm dude. Your gameplay shown was abysmal, you contradicted yourself ("aggressive player" standing on the Nasons wall, rofl) and your opinions/comments were absurd and stupid.
@@tartaros3 The only thing you said that I agree with is that there is a bit more than sarcasm in Dudis' video.
@@LanzerYT just 1 little tip for the future: the lion part of what makes NC maxes OP is the Aegis shield. You not even using it shows how little clue you have about the topic. Carry on being laughed at.
@@tartaros3 Careful now, you might get eaten by other NC with that comment. I used to use shield, back when shield was helpful with charge. It isn't helpful nowadays.
@@LanzerYT it is helpful when reloading or seeing a C4 about to go off.
lmao