Infiltrator Arguments Tier List
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- Just git gud bro
00:00 Intro
01:18 Git Gud
02:55 Good Players Are Good
03:48 900 Health Lol
04:36 Use It All The Time Then
05:41 Just See The Infiltrator Bro
08:57 Just Use Sensor Shield
09:58 List End
10:25 Deep Op Bug, Infiltrator Balance - Ігри
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Infil is my comfort class. If i get killed too often, or if im drunk as fuck, i switch to infil for some stress free kills to calm down.
I'd rather introduce more screen shake to ADS for bolters while also making bolters only 4x?6x? scope or higher.
Also why is aim punch not a thing for bolters in general?
I saw the second infill but the first nah their is like one white pixel as you approach but like fuck I would notice that on live with other things going on
I know nobody saw it because any screenshot you take to point out where the infil is makes you look like a schizo to any normal person since there is basically nothing visually distinctive. If you show a screenshot of where that infiltrator is that you’re talking about to anyone without telling them there is an infiltrator they would ask what is wrong with the picture.
Oh its basically not there man And If I wasn't already looking for an infil I would not have said that's probably an infil, a few white pixels dose not equate to an infil. It would be so easy to fix bolters just put a longer delay on cloak and de-cloak make it louder for longer and allow them to cloak a little longer so they don't complain. Or make them far more visible and remove deep op
@@Dudisfludis
@@upyermaw2732
Something for sure needs to be done to nerf infil's recon capabilities too.
Either give another class a trade-off counter, or make infil's recon be tied to the infil, and not completely detached like the darts/dildar are.
Oh god, Reddit drama
get gud
One thing no one seems to talk about is how an infil can be cloaked and it won't affect the shield recharge delay cooldown. You can get shot at, cloak and hide, then recharge your shield right away after uncloaking. A cloaked infil should pause the cooldown until uncloaked.
Ah shit, here we go again
@10:30 is far worse than it shows you. Repeat the test with Infravision on. Here's why: Infravision goes from black and white to color at the moment the network tells you that you're dead. Pause the video at the first full color frame and see how little if any of the decloak has completed.
I really like your two suggestions. I've been wondering if it'd be a good idea to just remove the cloaks except for the stalker and giving them some other cool recon-y ability but that feels kind of mean.
Honestly it seems like most of the problems arise when you mix invis and low-TTK/instakill guns, so as an infil main, I kinda like this idea
It’s not about removing the cloak for me, just tweaking it to make it more balanced.
Show me on the doll where the infil hurt you
Aww man, darklight really F tier? I expected it to be E tier.
Anyways I'm gonna go back to my best Infil counter weapon: Phoenix Rocket Launcher, with its 1 shot headshot against infils who aren't running the 1k total HP. Or the 2nd best counter: hitting the U key to just leave
Darlkight doesn't even work half the time sigh
Very disappointed, a lot of high quality arguments like "Go play call of duty" were missed.
Justdedicateadarklightsquadmember
Bruh what settings are those, infils are way easier to see for me
Cool, so you ignored everything I said about graphics and examples provided?
You might need to check your actual monitor hardware or monitor settings. I used to play on potato, then got sick of it and started playing on medium, then upgraded my video card and play on high. Never had any trouble seeing them.
my argument is that its not annoying to me
What server do you play on, and what is your main character?
Infil having a built in audible 1 second cloak and decloak fixes a lot of issues. SMG infils being able to crouch in a corner and headshot you before even decloaking is a joke and 70% of the playerbase gravitates to this playstyle because its easy.
I've been playing infiltrator for around 5 years (I'm still considered a scrub compared to veterans), anyways i don't even think the main issue is that you can become invisible, which is not really something you can sustain with hunter cloack and you can't simply run around as if nobody will see you nor you can trick an experienced player so easily. I believe CQC sniping with 4x scope or less is what triggers people the most and should be removed just as the Commisioner which is hevaily abused by vets to 1 shot people .
Also the ammount of actually experienced infil players that I've witnessed doing crazy stuff is extremely limited either in Connery or Emerald (idk elsewhere) most of infils can pull a sneaky kill and so on but the amount of muscle memory and experience needed to perform well as an infil makes many people go HA or something else instead.
In short, remove CQC sniping and the tears may stop flowing.
@7:15 Dropping the graphics to potato mode definitely makes the Infiltrator shimmer a lot more noticable this is not an excuse I think they should make the cloak less effective at close distances.
So if infiltrators are just really easy to see and there are no problems with them, then why don’t they still have access to shotguns from a long time ago? What’s the problem guys?
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I have always seen infiltrators as an incredibly important disruptor that permeates and destabilizes the frontlines to keep the battle moving and keep defenders on their toes. Does it have all the finish and polish of a Bethesda RPG? Pretty much. But it does serve an important role in Planetside 2's ecosystem.
I would love to see a more fair and functional infiltrator in a hypothetical Planetside 3. But I think that their state in Planetside 2 is... Acceptable. Not good, but fine. I would rather see dev time focused on a sequel than on changing a critical gameplay balance element that has been in the game for 11 years. It's just as likely they will make things even worse rather than actually improve the situation.
The most solid take here. There are some tweaks that could totally be beneficial, but the entire 'it's not fair, delete invisi-men' crap is beyond insufferable at this point. There's always some new twat thinking he's going to 'really make a solid argument' but doesn't even so much a redress the same old whine. I swear, if they spent all that whine-energy gitting gud instead, we'd all be having a better time.
Why like bro breathing so hard 😭
Was with your mom earlier bro mb shoulda got some rest😅
God i can't watch this video. Even though i agree with the idea that infiltrators need a nerf.
The whole tone of the video is just too sad. And arguments being nullified on super odd principles makes it to weird.
Do you know what dry humor is? Do I need to sound like an overly enthusiastic zoomer youtuber with sound effects and cuts every 6 seconds to ohio rizz you with my gyaaat?
@@DudisfludisI don’t really think dry humor is appropriate for this topic. I like some dry humor here and there, but the video just sounds like a downplay in validity of infiltrator. I understand that video shouldn’t be take too seriously though this can also ruin the argument on why infiltrator should be nerfed. People click on video expecting a serious insight on infiltrator, and to be educational on the pro and con of the class. You do show this, but the tone and the joke destroys the point you show. I enjoyed the video, and I have my opinions on the topic. But some of the arguments you pose is not as clear and convincing.
Good players don't make infils look "good".
Good players make infils look GROSS
The honest to god reason they push back so hard on this is because infiltrator is literally the only class that makes shitters relevant.
Invisibility and recon tools, no matter how awful the user is, give a safe space to shitters who otherwise can't really contribute anything.
How come when you're farming the same god awful player over and over again, you stopped seeing them switch to heavy a few years back. How come when youre farming a shitter over and over again, his go-to response is almost always to go infil? Of course, if youre a shitter, you wouldnt have experienced what I'm describing here but ultimately, shitters will always tell you what's broken in your game.
Its no wonder a class that gives you free positioning ability and free game sense for all the other clueless shitters around you is so vigorously defended.
DEAD GAME 😁😁
Grill bad hahhahahahahahah
I pair the "see" the infiltrator, with "listen". Each faction has a unique cloak sound that is audible even over gunfire. The video clips have no sound so of course they get the jump on you. I play with only comms via Discord and nothing else and I'll hear the infiltrator, tell my teammates in comms or prox and then using teamwork we hunt the cloaker.
Yes, each faction has a unique sound to their cloaks.
Good luck hearing that when the stalker infiltrator cloaked 2 minutes before you even got to the fight bro.
@@Dudisfludis If its a stalker, true enough. However their behavior is frequently sitting crouched in a corner or on a box, and its actually easy to stumble into them by accident or for them to never decloak because of the kind of player that runs stalker. Yes I'm implying Stalker Cloakers are cowards.
how in 9000 hours did nobody figure this out? you're a prodigy dude. or... everyone already did and this is a get-gud argument. ;) one of those.
@@YewToobComment In the average Streamer's defense, I doubt they have the luxury to listen to wtf is happening ingame.
@@JormungrandrserpentSo if I hear the infiltrator it’s good enough?
So, you’re just going to miss the entire point about how infiltrators can just cloak and crouch and then uncloak and immediately kill you? You’re going to ignore the examples in the video where I am close enough to hear the cloak and yet still not find/see the infiltrator until I’m dead?
Is this really your best argument?
For me, I always kinda thought stuff like the infiltrator cloak and the HA shield should have a limited number of charges that would need to be replenished at a terminal or Sundy. This would encourage far more tactical consideration by sheer dint of "I can't spam this. I need to save it for when it's useful. If I don't, I will run out." Or at the very least, give a charge mechanic to the most broken versions of class abilities. Like, it could be something fairly generous, like 6-10 charges. It might use an implant or gear slot to increase the number you can carry. Something. To me, something like that could go a long way to ameliorating the problems with the abilities themselves, even if they can't possibly be bothered to change the ability mechanics.
Yeah, make the game more unfunny, go ahead
I disagree because the abilities are something you should always have access to with at least some cooldown or recharge.
Imagine if a light assault only had a very limited number of charges on their jump jets. It wouldn’t be that fun.
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bro there are tradeoffs to everything. infils shield/hp maximum is 1 tappable by commisioner etc in exchange for being able to cloak. the 1 tap bolt actions dont mean shit if u run resist shield on HA as that will prevent the 1 tap so long as u are at full shield/hp. keep in mind resist shield is dmg resistance where as the other shields strength decay over time and will not stop 1 taps from top end boltys. in an exchange you have theoretical advantage but like all games not all scenarios play out the same. stop trying to push for lessening ppls gameplay just to suit your own. remove infil cloak just tips the scales over to other side and then u got inbalance AGAIN. its fine the way it is. tl;dr GIT GUD
Thank you for not watching or listening 🙏🏼
The only useful thing about Nano Armor Cloaking was that it gave the missing 100 Shield.
No one used it because of the active ability.
I see where you want to go with Carapace but be honest, you will not equip Carapace.
Showing a 5 seconds long clip with Low Graphic settings to proof a Argument is lower than a F Tier argument.
Infravision does derender the Infiltrator cloak, if you wish that it highlights cloaked Infiltrators, we could see where your thoughts are going.
Altough I have to agree that Deep OP Implant is bugged. It is not meant to have this effect.
I took the time to look at your Video and sadly found no good arguments from yourself.
For me it just seems that you kind of jumped on the hate bandwagon for clicks and views which is subjectively coming from my side.
Thank you for not watching or listening🙏🏼
@@Dudisfludiswell, if your perception is so biased against the Class, there is no base for a constructive discussion at all, instead just your opinion.
@@Diggsano Ok so then let me go through this point by point since you have your own bias. Let’s not pretend I’m the only one with a bias.
Infiltrators use NAC because it allows you to activate it and run away while shuffling and take less damage. People LITERALLY use it for the active ability, so I’m not sure what else you could mean by this. Step 1 is to uncloak on an unsuspecting (or even suspecting) target, step 2 is shoot, step 3 is, even if you miss, shuffle a little bit and tank bullets because you have 35% damage resistance while running away. You’re delusional to think people don’t use this cloak at all or whatever you even meant with your comments about NAC.
People do use carapace on Infiltrator. Not common, but it’s still used to avoid comissioner 1 shotting you. If you have medics around or in a squad there is a larger* benefit to using this.
Yeah, I “showed a 5 second long clip with low graphics settings” because, sorry to burst your bubble, people do play with these settings. I know, unheard of. If you watched even 30 seconds more of the video I encounter someone who is 100% not using the same settings as me and walks right past me after WATCHING ME CLOAK. You conveniently left this out of your bullet points for obvious reasons.
We agree Deep Op shouldn’t be bugged.
Again, you see no good arguments because 1) this video is making fun of your own arguments and 2) not presenting the full extent of mine which could be a whole seperate video. So, yeah I might as well make fun of people who think being practically invisible the way PS2 has it now isn’t a problem just like I made fun of people for thinking MAX suits need to be stronger.
Lmao, of all the problems this game has, the community focusing so hard on trying to get the devs to nerf the infiltrator is just funny to me.
Performance issues? Nah.
Continents being downgraded or poorly designed? We sleep.
Lack of team-led emergent gameplay and squad/platoon functions? Don't worry about that.
Class doing what it is meant to be doing? REAL SHIT, NERF PLS